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Brain goes brrrrrr (well mine and @fruityfirehose 's brains - she had the initial thought - I'm just running with it!)
What if we have this seemingly 'cute and happy' moment where tommy is teaching Buck Maui Thai in the loft (my money is on them being in the space between the sitting room and dining table!) - he hits Buck - accidentally (I don't like the guy but I don't think he's evil in that way!) and Buck sits down and uses his camera to check the injury -Tommy is holding back because he did just hurt him (hence the poses in the stills!)
Buck calls Eddie, who comes to help with his medical expertise and assesses Bucks injury.
It gives us several callbacks and parallels to draw on!
I've already pointed out the white hoodie - and the fact Buck is sitting in a chair (I assume the same chair) as in 517 when Taylors betrayal begins - Tommy is in a similar enough position to Taylors as well (we don't get the same camera angles as the stills but you can see what I mean!)
We also get an interesting call back to both their first kiss and more importantly the basketball game - hence the shiner on his face! Tommy is in red/black - like he was for their first kiss in 704 and his shirt is sleeveless like his basketball hoodie was - both have had the sleeves cut off.
This would be interesting as a set up for Bucks arc and the hurdles, baggage, issues - whatever you want to call it at this point! Tommy injuring Buck would call back to Buck hurting Eddie - and play into Bucks tendency to react to difficult situations with anger/aggression - hurting people unintentionally in the process- which also ties into the Gerrard situation from 801 when Buck saved him but injured him in the process.
We also have a callback to 504 (how appropriate after last week!) and 'Ice goes on the eye bud' and maybe an implied reference to 'maybe you don't know [Maddie} like he does' - the injury is in the same-ish place. This would be especially good as the implication that Eddie knows Buck better than Tommy does is just perfectly set up
Buck not dealing with things well when they are not going his way - turning to aggression in some form (the law suit was an act of aggression - just not physical aggression) is an interesting flaw of Bucks that he really hasn't dealt with and really is one that he does need to actively work on and 'fix'. Its one of the parts of Buck that is some baggage he's carrying that he needs to address, and what additionally interesting about it is that if Tommy does (accidentally) hit Buck whilst teaching him Maui Thai, it plays into the theory that Tommy (as the plot device that he is) is an alt version of Buck - there to reflect/ highlight Bucks issues - the ones he needs to work on!
#not saying that this is how its gonna play out#just an interesting thought to explore#becasue it makes total sense#and sets up some interesting character development for Buck#and then him ending things with Tommy has the additional benefit of being symbolic of Buck addressing and dealing with that aspect#of his personality - of not letting anger and frustration and aggression dictate how he handles things going forward#it would be great character growth!#911 spoilers#911 thinky thoughts#911 spec#evan buckley#911 abc#anti bucktommy#anti tommy kinard#bt bones is coming#so many potential call backs
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Since both Hoseok and Jimin are infamously known as the two who are most scary when angry, can astrology tell us how scary?
Hey there! 💕 Thanks for sending this in dfkjnkn I’ll do my best to explain it 💕
[Below Cut: BTS anger]
warning: long post
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Note: this is just my interpretation, feel free to have your own interpretation on the subject. As always, please use your own discretion when reading! 💕
Premise
First thing that comes to mind is that context might be important here, everybody gets angry to an extent. How they lash out depends on how angry they are and who they are as well (nature- overall placement, nurture, how they’ve grown/developed/matured).
Some people might have trouble getting angry (they’re just never angry) Some has only experienced mild irritations. Suppressed emotions can be pretty common, especially those who just doesn’t know how to express themselves properly/acknowledge their feelings.
They’ll have to learn sooner or later. How to recognize and resolve ‘negative’ emotions they might feel. How to express them healthily, and how to do so in doses instead of overly-expressing them or suppressing them entirely.
Now, the reason Hoseok and Jimin might be ‘the scariest when angry’ is within the context of BTS themselves. How often does the other boys express their anger? How do they express it? Is it just irritation, frustration or do they suppress/act passive aggressive about it?
Taehyungie
Taehyungie– with a truckload of Capricorn in him, is literally the most peacekeeping lil shit without actually being peaceful himself. Capricorn Mars, Aries Moon, Aquarius Venus. Alot of his energy goes into making sure nothing gets too out of hand, but at the same time– trying to find objectivity in his reasoning/situation in order to express his anger
(Like, there has to be that ‘exact’ moment where everything in his head makes sense within the context of the conversation, so he can just insert it out there – like a pre-formed phrase that’s just waiting for the right time/context to be expressed you know? Kind of like Cards Against Humanity.)
Capricorn placements (especially Mars) might find it so much easier to just swallow down their anger– a momentary emotion, in order to observe and find the best way/opportunity to express them properly.
The head always rules the heart, even when the heart is close to breaking down in tears/a million pieces (not trying to be melodramatic sdjfnakns this is just– how it is sometimes)
There’s a reason Capricorn is exalted in Mars, and it’s because they can literally put themselves on the back-pedal in order to put the situation first.
It’s the same self-sacrificing aspect they have, where they don’t want to ‘burden’ others with their emotions/problems because they feel awkward expressing themselves. A dumbass about it, but a well-intended one (that’s going to bite them in the ass eventually).
There’s power and dominance in being able to handle your own emotions, even if you had to suppress them at the beginning. In terms of anger, oh it’s not like he doesn’t feel anger. It’s just that– the Capricorn/Aquarius way, anger is always expressed through the head, through objectivity, rather than emotionally letting go/releasing that outwards.
It’s this innate need for power and control over their own objectivity that makes them quiet, makes them seek a different opportunity to express themselves. They’re stubborn and foolhardy, they can wait forever just for a 0.5 window of opportunity that’s perfect to align itself for them.
(Also, Capricorn Mercury/Mars – loud booming voice, no heat in them. Intimate sometimes, but always clear about what they want. Once they’ve reached a limit/others push them to the limit, they’ll become pretty blunt about self-protection.The loud voice is more to do with intimidating tactic, done subconsciously. Not really meant to harm/shout at others, it’s just the way they naturally escalate in volume/primal in a way. Push authority into short words but straight to the point. Doesn’t like to do this to others bc they feel guilty/like they’ve wronged their social responsibility to others (some moral integrity stuff)– so they’re always trying to ‘soften’ themselves up constantly/outside of the context.)
Jungkookie
Compared to Taehyung, Jungkookie has more of an internal alignment to be peaceful internally– even if he doesn’t know how to do so/exert it externally that well (he’s still learning).
Virgo, compared to Capricorn– is more internally controlled. They’re aware of what they’re doing, what they’re going through, how they deal with situations. While Capricorn as a cardinal sign, is more intuitively aware/experienced with keeping peace externally.
Virgos as a mutable sign, is more of a sign that configurate things inside of themselves and if the solution isn’t satisfactory– they go ‘this aint it’ and work to find a ‘better’ solution (in regards to emotional dissatisfaction/anger).
Virgos motive for making a move is centered around ‘can it be improved?’ – if it’s a constructive criticism, if the other person can make some changes around it. Will it be useful/helpful going further? They’re stubbornly prideful, clings onto their moral integrity. If it’s just a ‘passing emotion’ they’re less inclined than any other signs to make a screaming match about something that doesn’t matter to them in the long-run.
Moral integrity is the utmost important, and then ‘will they listen? will they accept help?’ becomes secondary factor on whether or not they should express their anger. Like Capricorn, it’s pretty controlled. Clean cut, moral objectivity. But in this case, there’s actually an allowance for irritation to flare or personal feelings to come forward.
They’re not going to deny themselves the opportunity to feel something, but they will most likely deny expressing it to another person. Would rather eat the poison and suffer alone, than drag anyone into it because they don’t know how to express it properly. Maybe after they broke down, they process everything and have had time to think about what they want to say– they might consider letting others in on their inner thoughts/vulnerabilities. Maybe not.
(Also, Scorpio Mars. Has the ability to ‘shut off’ emotions to get things done. I know, ‘water signs are emotional’ and all that– but when it gets too much, too overwhelming and they have to focus on a single-minded goal/objective– they are prone to just exerting themselves into action, to reach a certain goal, with or without hurting other people along the way.)
(Can be kind of prissy, isn’t booming like Tae but isn’t backing down either. Clipped, short but shows more self-control/awareness of other’s emotional receptivity than Tae does/primal. Isn’t guilty about it unless Leo Moon dictates so.)
Namjoonie
Can’t talk about anger without mentioning Namjoonie. Again, with his Virgo there’s a modicum of control. But also with the Sagittarius Moon, Libra Mercury and Cancer Mars– there’s a conscious decision to ‘slither’ this control into something different, something not as openly hurtful to others, but still self-expressive.
Anger is just an emotion people go through. Frustration, embarrassment, shame, regret are emotions everyone’s supposed to feel.
There’s no shame in acknowledging that, in discovering and categorizing that inside of yourself (Virgo - wants internal control/seeks out externally, and part of that control comes from noticing emotions inside of themselves - Cancer/Scorpio)
With a Sagittarius Moon (fire moons), every emotion feels physical. Your face flares up, your heart-beat quickens.You react instinctively, through what you’ve already experienced/know before their brain goes on shut down.
Processing of emotions comes after, putting a name to it acknowledging what it is and figuring out a way to counteract it in the future.
See, the thing about it is that fire signs feels emotions but can’t control it. It’s an automatic reaction, everything catches them off-guard. Water signs feels and acknowledge emotions but doesn’t see the point in letting it all out at once (inner-depth/internal emotions not just external ones).
Sure they might know how to navigate through it and often wish to ‘turn it off’, but the comparison between fire/water sign is like throwing a pro-swimmer and a non-swimmer in a pool and ask them to stay afloat for 30 minutes.
One is just struggling to survive while the other is tired because they’ve been paddling for 15 minutes. Fire signs shows more emotional reaction than water sign does, mostly because they don’t have complete control over their emotions the way water-sign does.
Water signs acknowledge emotions, acknowledge reactions and learns how to navigate through it. How to swim, how to figure it out, how to work through it eventually. Fire signs are stuck at the beginner-level swimming phrase for a lot of their emotional reaction.
Having both of these in one’s chart (Sagittarius Moon/Cancer Mars/Scorpio Venus) – Namjoon can’t control his emotional reaction (his frustration/anger)– but he can learn how to categorize them, how to work with them and how to express them to others properly.
He feels emotions (not just anger) truthfully and honestly. He learns how to hone it, how to cope and work with it through social obligations/situations (Scorpio Venus/Cancer Mars). He’s a sneaky bitch who acts passive-aggressively sometimes, side-eyes, snarks, can be a little insensitive but he’s learning.
If there’s a situation where he can’t express his emotions, earth/air takes over. That’s his awkwardness, fire/water at least acknowledges/expresses emotions. Earth/airs would rather die than express any kind of vulnerabilities they haven’t screen-tested before showing it outwards.
Think of it as like, the head (earth/air) versus the heart (fire/water). Which side would you choose? Which side is more important? Neither, but when it comes to anger/expressing anger– Namjoon might let his heart rules him before his head (earth/air) actually shifts into gear (vice versa too, but it usually lets to the heart losing control and the head having to pick up the pieces/try to keep a modicum of control that we’re talking about earlier with Virgo)
The difference between Namjoon and Jungkook is the configuration of placement. They might have all the elements there, but Namjoon has 2 counts water (Scorpio/Cancer) while Jungkook has 2 counts earth (Virgo Sun/Mercury).
With an elemental balance (all elements in a chart) – the ones that’s overwhelmed by the other is the one that needs to be practiced, learnt and is like their ‘vulnerability’.
So with Jungkook, anger is more controlled than Namjoon. He may not express it well/all at once like Namjoon does, or know how to do so without holding back —but it’s heart-felt anyways. Namjoon goes heart-first in expressing his emotions, his thoughts, he tries to make it reasonable, but the heart/emotions wins over logic when push comes to shove.
It’s kind of like– the 2 count head/earth is the overt exertion, while the heart is the underlying layer for Jungkook. While for Namjoon it’s the opposite, the 2 count heart/water is exerted (way of expressing his emotions) and then the head is the underlying layer underneath (trying to keep balance/control).
(Which is why– if he holds a grudge, the heart doesn’t forget and the head works to keep it under-wraps. )
(Always wants to win, so the main objective to Libra Mercury is winning the argument. Competitive without realizing it, especially when Cancer Mars is engaged/cardinal. Smug but firm, gloats a little.)
Yoongi
Now we have a watery man example. Yoongi is?? similar to Jungkook and Namjoon in a way. Pisces Mercury, Aries Venus are quick to point out things that they disagree with. They may be easy-going most of the time, but if it’s taken too far by someone else– they’re the ones who’s going to go ‘this aint it’ and explain to others what could be added to make it better.
Of course, emotionally he’s aware of himself (virgo moon) but can also steer the direction very quickly (pisces). Yoongi is like, the opposite and similar to Taehyung.
Tae’s fire moon earth sun expresses emotions physically but also suppresses himself– doesn’t have time to acknowledge bad behaviors/habit he has or the emotion he just went through.
Yoongi’s aware of the emotions he went through/feels, he can suppress it too if he wants. Most likely if the opportunity/the way he words it isn’t to his liking.
With Pisces Mercury, often times he has a hard time expressing his emotions forward to others anyways. The way he goes about expressing/connecting to others is through teasing (Aries Venus) motivating others, guiding them/being there for them (Virgo Moon).
In terms of anger/expressing anger, Virgo/Aries takes over externally. ‘This ain’t it’ becomes the biggest concern, constructive criticism but also objectivity becomes key points. Underneath that, is the underlying Pisces/Cancer– he cares, it’s from the heart. Emotional connectivity to others for protection, guidance, empathy and realizing objectivity in the situation.
More of the type to rely on empathetic logic/rationality (emotional) than trust himself to express things from the heart completely. Everything is kind of a ratio of 1:2 emotions to logic. Mostly from that Virgo Moon keeping things under-wraps for him (internal control).
At the same time, he can tend to take personal offense to things because of this Virgo/Pisces/Cancer part. Nagging, irrationality, personal complaints about his personal lifestyle that isn’t bothering anyone might irate him (less serious stuff -> irrationality anger, more serious stuff -> rational empathetic anger - Pisces).
Yoongi structures things methodically, systematically through the head to achieve the heart’s emotionality/expressing the heart out. That’s why, compared to Namjoon, he tends to be much more a person who holds a grudge over the decades and plans for revenge (with a smugness/air of superiority that Pisces/Virgo has, ‘martyr-like’ superiority) because the heart really doesn’t forget, but the head also works to exact revenge exactly as planned.
(Because of trouble expressing the self, tends to rely more on Aries Venus to get through to people. Complains a lot, goes about seeking things in a roundabout way sometimes.)
Jinnie
Next we have Jinnie, let’s acknowledge how the luminaries are fire/fire which makes him pretty expressive/lose his head pretty quickly. But the lower half, his inner planets– are Scorpio/Capricorn/Cancer.
Similar to Namjoon, but because Namjoon has a Virgo Sun, he can tend to hold back a bit more (trying to figure himself out) while Jin has no regards expressing how he feels in a way that’s accessible to him – logically but also rapidly.
I know we’ve all said ‘Jin’s hiding something’ or has a more ‘serious side’ to him– but that’s mostly just a Capricorn and how Capricorns typically are. There’s no hidden agenda, everyone just thinks Capricorn are like hidden darkhorse or something/has something underneath it all.
Capricorn and Scorpio both are kind of objectively driven, pressured by the same kind of stamp as each other (time/challenges) grind in the same kind of mortar.
The reason most people feel unease because of these signs (‘they’re intimidating’ or ‘they’re mysterious’) is because people like to objectify them without understanding/acknowledging them as people themselves. (Wow what a surprise that Jin gets treated the same sometimes by the fandom!)
Jin expresses anger through objectivity, but it comes in layers.
One, if it’s frustration/immediate he jokes about it, tries to bring it to attention so others can pick up on the ‘actual’ gravity of the situation through pressure/tenseness of his snark.
Two, if that doesn’t work– he expresses his points objectively instead. You’d be caught dead in a ditch if a Scorpio Mercury actually spill their heart out to you with all their vulnerabilities, everything has to be screen-tested first.
You’ve been screen-tested, his emotions are screen-tested, his strength/weaknesses are screen-tested. Everything can be tested in order to ensure optimal support and transformative motion to the situation.
Three, it’s pretty straight forward. Unless he can handle it himself (keep it under-wraps) work through his insecurities/vulnerabilities and come out alive. He likes to categorize concern for ‘ones to talk about with others’ and ‘ones to deal with himself’.
Control — Capricorn/Cancer/Scorpio all talks about having control. Externally most of all, what you see is what you get (for now). There’s more underneath it (obviously) but unless he’s ready to conclude/worked through it already he’s not going to let anything get ‘messy’ externally so others can see it.
Control is also level-headedness. The key word to Jin is that he’s not messy. His emotions aren’t all over the place, everything is pointed, purposeful. Evoke something purposefully with an objective/punch-line he can run with. Even his jokes/first level frustration has an objectiveness to it.
It’s great because it’s systematic and objective right? There’s the private, personal and public. Everything is organized in layers. Whether you want him to be personal or his public self, he can bring it out for you. The main key here is Capricorn Venus dependability. Combined with Cancer Mars control/protectiveness.
(This ‘not messy’ part is important. Having layers helps him with this. It’s not like Namjoon or Yoongi, who can get quite messy. Not like Taehyung or Jungkook who’s abhorrant to messiness in general (on a spectrum of Taehyung/Jungkook to Yoongi/Namjoon how messy are you?). Jin isn’t afraid to get dirty with his emotions, but he cleans up after himself afterwards because he knows how.)
Hoseok and Jimin
Now, we get to the two in question. The members mentioned how they’re the scariest when mad right? Well after we’ve looked at everyone– on the scale of Taehyung to Namjoon– how messy do you think they get?
There’s two things here. First, Jimin doesn’t hide his anger/frustration. Most of all when it comes to himself. His own frustration/anger at himself, he’s pretty expressive about how he feels, where he’s at emotionally and wants to engage emotional conversations with others (BV3 - also Scorpio Venus).
Hoseok hides his anger/frustration. Not through an obligation (although it does make an easy convenience/excuse to do so considering his job) but more like he doesn’t understand it, can’t control it. Doesn’t even know how to go about acknowledging it sometimes (Taurus Moon).
We see the sister signs Scorpio-Taurus here more prominently. And of course, Namjoon who also has a Scorpio Venus is just as messy as Jimin (although Jimin is– substantially better at controlling/using his Scorpio than Namjoon is)
The key point here is that Jimin doesn’t hold back from expressing himself. Crying when someone mentions it? Expressing his emotions/thoughts? His Forte.
He grew up learning how to do this, despite his awkwardness shy clumsy ass. He doesn’t disallow himself to express what he’s learnt to express, what’s good for him, what he shouldn’t keep to himself.
The luminaries (Libra/Gemini) is lighter than the lower half (Scorpio Venus/Mars)– there’s a balance of rationality to emotionality. Doesn’t mean he knows how to control it.
What he lacks in fire/earth– makes him learns thing step by step. He doesn’t rush into things, doesn’t hold himself back. He learns what he has to learn and he keeps going that way. Focused, in the present, build up from each other without suppressing himself down (Libra/cardinal).
Which is why he has a better grasps at expressing himself emotionally than Taehyung does, or directing Jungkook on where to go/how to do things when kook needs a little more emotional direction (Namjoon is kind of similar in this way to Jungkook)
Jimin isn’t head driven or heart driven, he’s made up entirely of those two (air/water). That’s his entirely (Libra/Gemini/Scorpio). He isn’t like Yoongi who lashes out playfully to his own inability to express himself properly (Pisces Mercury/Aries Venus) or Jin who reacts in layers (Fire Sun-Moon/Scorpio-Capricorn-Cancer)
Jimin’s steadfast in his approach to emotional reactions, he learns and grows as he goes– step by step. He doesn’t hide himself or hold himself back.
Figuring out that literally 6/7 of the team members have some earth placements in them that kind of acts as an ‘anchor’ holding them down – its freeing to be able to zooms in and out of guiding others in the right emotional direction as well.
Now we look at Hoseok. Who is literally the opposite of Jimin. He’s just as zoomy, quick on his feet. But emotionality? Pah.
The thing with Taurus Moon is that unless it hits them in the face, they won’t even realize what they’re feeling sometimes. This isn’t stubbornness, it’s literally obliviousness.
Thus why, when they ‘explode’ (because, y know. Suppress it until you can’t make it. But unlike Virgo/Capricorn, Taurus doesn’t have that self-preservation sensor that tells them they’re nearing their limit/should express themselves now)– it’s a whirlwind of unexpected, surprising emotions. To them and to others.
The reason why it’s scary is because they don’t even realize what they felt/how they’ve been feeling. Everything is fine and dandy in the Taurus world until it’s not. And then it’s like the Apocalypse is happening. Because everything comes crashing down all at once, taking everything– the Taurus themselves, others around them, off guard completely.
This isn’t like the Scorpio native who knows their emotions, comes in short bursts, can fix it/control it pretty quickly.
The Taurus literally has no idea where it’s coming from, so any modicum of control they may have over their situation/themselves/others? Gone in a flashflood (*depends on the person, mostly their development/placement)
The repercussion is a series of self-evaluation. Wondering where they’ve gone wrong, what they didn’t notice the first time around. It’s a slow learning curve, unlike the Scorpio’s transformation/regeneration process. The Taurus is stagnant in what it’s learnt/know, so it grows only when it does some serious self-evaluation (after) and not during it.
The thing with Hoseok is that he’s also made up of Aquarius and Pisces. So besides that Taurus Moon– his problem is that he’s always a bit frantic. Pisces does that to people, want to be appreciated, want to be near/close and observe others. The power of their astute observation is also their downfall, because that directly fuels their anxiety.
It creates a time-scape where they’re concerned about the now, the future (or think constantly about the past without doing much about it). They don’t have time to self-evaluate or go through the process of learning the Taurus has to do in order to progress/grow the way it wants to.
Aquarius observes, direct, helps both sides. But getting involved in the Taurus’s messy emotions or the Pisces’s urge/desire? Unlikely. To others who needs it– yes, sure of course. To itself? It’s own problem? Pah.
So now we have two duality. Both who learns in similar ways. Step by step, growth spurt by growth spurt (fixed).
But one who doesn’t realize his emotions until it’s too late sometimes (wants to help others, wants to be useful/helpful and cries easily - Pisces Venus)
And one who still has to learn, to be able to explore all types/variety/ranges of emotions (optimistic, idealistic, wants to explore, looks on the positive - Libra/Gemini)
They counteract each other, one who controls and the other who loses control (Taurus-Scorpio * this is kind of simplified, they’re much more complex than that but this is kind of a small conclusion in regards to the context/subject above).
One who looks at things optimistically and one who wants to do things properly (Gemini/Libra/Scorpio-Aquarius/Pisces/Taurus)
They balance each other out. They work similarly, approaches things similarly, but execute things differently from each other.
Conclusion
On a scale of all of Bangtan, Hoseok’s obliviousness to his emotions is even worse than Taehyung is.
Mostly because Taehyung still acknowledges that he does have emotions, and his burdened with his ‘worser’ emotions (don’t want to burden others) – while Hoseok doesn’t even acknowledge that he has it, or felt it. Going straight to solving other’s problem or approaching it practically instead (Aquarius -making the fall out worse sometimes)
Out of all of Bangtan, Jimin’s on the other end of the scale. Maybe tied to Namjoon or the Hyung-line (Jin, Yoongi). He’s kind of like Jungkook, as time goes he gets more control over his range of emotions. And thus, he learns how to balance it out himself.
Note that Earth and Air signs do feel emotions, and can express said emotions. But whether or not its ‘good��� or ‘bad’ emotions to them, will dictate how/if they express it to others.
So yeah, contextually. It’s all of Bangtan that should be considered. As well as perspective of those involved. To me, someone like Yoongi or Jin would be hard to handle. Mostly because my way of handling my anger/emotions wouldn’t know what to do with those who express their anger/emotions that way.
Considering Bangtan, and their lack of experience with Taurus emotional expression (or Gemini emotional expression) – it might be hard to calm them down or help them if they can’t approach it/understand it in their own way.
Whether someone’s scary when they’re angry or not depends on how well equipped we are with handling them. Whether we see it in ourselves, or whether we lose control completely.
I mentioned control a lot in this answer, mostly because that’s part of the problem (abundance of control/too much of it) but also the way it’s expressed to others. We all have some kind of control over ourselves, as– you know– maturing adults.
We’ve learnt how to express ourselves differently, some of the lingering problems when we were kids are still there, but we try to grow with it, grow through it anyways.
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Sorry if this was a bit messy sdkjfnkasnf I feel really stiff coming back after going on vacation for a while. But I hope this is a good answer anyways 💕 Thank you for sending in the ask! 💕
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thirteen reasons why encourages SUICIDE and i don't know why the fuck u like it or are promoting it what is wrong with you do u want ppl to kill themselves and think what they're doing is okay???????????????
Okay several things here. I appreciate you coming to me with your concerns so I’m going to do my best to address them with what I believe to be the truth. You and others are more than welcome to disagree and to voice that, I will read everything and take it into account, I can always learn something.
Go below the cut to see my thoughts on this, sorry it got so long.
1). Is there any need for you to be so rude and aggressive towards me just for saying I like a very popular show? Personally, I don’t believe that there is. I appreciate your frustration and anger over this, I know it is an important issue so I sympathise but please don’t take it out on me.
2). I like it for a lot of reasons. It is a very cleverly done show in a lot of ways and I appreciate it for what it is. Things like having Clay hurt his head early on so we can distinguish between present Clay and the flashbacks easily is a great technique and as a media studies student I spot a lot of stuff like that. I also appreciate the diversity and representation throughout the show, particularly the way Tony’s sexuality was handled. It’s also a much grittier version of the YA contemporary genre than I have previously seen and that’s really interesting to me. In fact, that opened me up to a whole new genre for my writing as I’ve previously only written sci-fi/dystopia/fantasy. So I love it for that, I’m now writing a contemporary novel!
3). Personally, I don’t see it as encouraging suicide. I do know that the usual guidelines dictate that you should not show the suicide being acted out on screen as this might encourage impressionable people to copy cat and that they did break that guideline. This is just my personal opinion but:
I believe there is a world of difference between what 13 Reasons Why did and say, what American Horror Story does in Murder House with Violet. Let’s dissect that. (Warning: Seriously, don’t read the next bit if you have any trauma or triggers relating to suicide. Please don’t. Just skip to part 4).
In American Horror Story, Violet takes a lot of pills. This is a relatively peaceful way to go, there is no mess, it is portrayed as almost glamourous: Violet the beautiful blonde, eyelids fluttering shut as she sinks into the bed, delicate grip on the bottle loosening as she loses consciousness, that close up of her slender wrist outstretched on the bed.
And of course it is shown to be romantic. Tate is there to save her (or not as it turns out). He is the hero, he takes her to the bath and tries to wake her and he screams that he loves her. His pain is being used to make it seem worthwhile somehow - she got his attention but alas too late. It is supposed to be tragic, Romeo and Juliet style.
That is hugely problematic. Can’t even begin to talk about how problematic that is.
In contrast, we have Hannah’s suicide scene in 13 Reasons Why. This is not glamourous at all. They were careful with how they portrayed this (note: in the books it is implied she took pills. They could have done it the same problematic way as AHS but chose not to). Hannah gets into the bathtub to kill herself but they deliberately kept her fully clothed and in very loose, plain, boring clothes at that. She is not glamourised. This is not the pretty choice.
And they continue with that. When she cuts herself she is trying not to scream in pain. It is hard work, it hurts. When she is found, it is her parents who find her. Her parents who scream and cry for their baby girl.
The message is very different: in AHS it is easy to die, glamorous, romantic even. An impressionable person struggling with depression say, might believe that lie and try to copy. In 13RW it is painful, hard to watch, heart breaking. It is not sugar coated, that is why it is so important for the camera not to look away. it is the truth of the act of suicide or as close as we can get and I would hope that anyone watching would think what I did “god. i don’t think i could manage that.”
I know that this is just my opinion, but this is how I read that scene. That’s why I don’t have a problem with it as much as others do.
4). Having said all of that, do I believe this is a good representation of suicide as a whole? No. I don’t. The concept that there is someone to blame for suicide is not a healthy one. Indeed, as someone who’s mother is in counselling for guilt about two suicides that have occurred in or around our family (more on that later) it is an incredibly harmful one. There should have been far more focus on mental health and Hannah’s deterioration and things like the rape and the impact that had on her mental health, rather than on the onus put on others. I agree with that. Jay Asher, the author behind the book, did talk about how Hannah is meant to be a flawed character, just because she blames others does not make it okay. I think the text is problematic in that this is not clear enough to viewers. Maybe I was able to enjoy it more because I felt that Hannah was an unlikable character and so questioned her judgement throughout anyway? I don’t know.
5). You are also right that I should not be promoting this show to just anyone. I would never ever recommend that anyone with suicide or self-harm in their past or who has a loved one who struggles with these issues and is impacted by that, watch this unless they are mentally prepared for what is to come.
6). What is wrong with me? Good question. I have an anxiety disorder (probably GAD. It’s suspected but I haven’t got a diagnosis yet, i intend to persue that once my exams are finished). I have many of the anxiety symptoms related to being raised by an alcoholic (I wasn’t but my mum was and I as a child have inherited these traits). I am a recovering self-harmer (its about two years more or less since I cut. I’m doing good so don’t worry about me). I’m not telling you this as a guilt trip or anything so I hope it doesn’t feel like that. I’m just telling you so you know that I do know about these kinds of issues and about mental health first-hand.
Which leads into:
7). Do I want people to kill themselves? No. I mentioned earlier two suicides in my family. My grandfather who I have never met because of depression and suicide. And a very close friend of my mum’s. She was the one who found him, in much the same way Hannah’s parents found her. She’s traumatised by that as you would expect.
Maybe that’s why I appreciate the visceral way that 13RW showed that scene. Maybe because on some level I feel it represents the pain and anguish my mum went through when she found someone. I believe that art shouldn’t look away from our pain. Maybe I liked it for holding up a mirror to what my mum went through and is going through.
But that’s just me and the life experiences I brought with me to that scene. Everyone interprets things differently based on what experiences they bring with them. So you’re more than welcome to disagree.
Just no. I don’t want anyone to kill themselves. I’ve seen the way that messes up the people who are left behind. And maybe you could have learned something from the show: after all, the message is that you don’t know what is going on in someone else’s life or how your actions might affect them. So anon I want you to sit down and think about the fact that I shouldn’t have had to tell you something as personal as all this. Think about how your actions of implying that me liking a show means I want people to commit suicide might affect someone like me, who has been impacted by suicide. Think about it. Learn from it.
8). Do I think what they are doing is okay? it’s hard for me to say. I don’t think they did anything evil. I appreciate the show for a huge number of very different reasons. But I do also believe that there were things they didn’t do and should have done.
- Made it clearer how flawed Hannah was
- Given a representation of being able to seek help and has this be positive (so people struggling know they can get help. You can. I did and it’s what saved me in the end).
- Made it clearer that in the end it was her choice and others should not be blamed for that
- Put more focus on mental health. The bullying story and moral were important and very well done but should have been given alongside a mental health one.
Especially since they are aiming for a teen audience like me. When you make something for kids you are obligated to protect them and I think there are ways this could have been done better.
So there you go anon. I hope this answers your questions. Again, thanks for coming to me with your concerns. Please, feel free to continue to do so (about this or anything else I say), my inbox is always open.
#this was hard to write#but important#tw suicide#tw self harm#tw rape#13 reasons why#thirteen reasons why#suicide#self harm#mental health#asks#answered
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Sanvers Anniversary
Sanvers fanfic DEO More like DRP department of romantic planning
(So the tittle needs work)
Saturday
Just when people thought alex danvers could not get any more terrifying it happened the whole DEO knew that she had been dating detective sawyer for the last eleven months which is the longest Alex Danvers had ever been in a relationship. From the gossip that was going around the base the relationship was still going well then again no one was dumb enough to say a negative thing about that relationship from fear of either party’s wrath. Dimples or no dimples detective sawyer could still scare the crap out of a person when she wanted to that is according to mon el who made the mistake of getting on the wrong side of said detective he nearly left with a lead knife in his heart.
Alex had started the week on edge first going off on the people working the front desk for taking to long with letting her in. she later snapped at Henry the security guard for the containment units for not having them clean enough ( it’s quite hard to clean a containment cell inhabited by a gelatine based creature and keep it clean) she was going off on anyone and everyone who inconvienenced her in the slightest. Winn and james were currently taking the brute of her wrath.
“ you two are going to blow the whole operation at this rate did either of you even think before you stormed into the warehouse!” alex shouted loudly her arms waving in the air in anger she could be heard shouting across the main deo floor. “ oh wait neither of you ever think do those brains of yours even work or do they just come up with ways to ruin deo operations!”
J’ohn was leaning against a desk at the other end of the room eliza stood next to him watching quizzically at the confrontation taking place between the guardian duo and alex it was the second of the day, guardian had went into a warehouse where one of the national city gangs was said to have cept some of their tech he had gotten a lead that they were holding captives there it had ended up a bust and nearly gotten an undercover agent caught.
“ you know i bet this has to do with the anniversary coming up” Eliza smiled softly chuckling a little while gesturing over towards where her daughter stood still shouting. “ she has never been in a relationship this long that i can remember she’s probably stressed”
“ she’s never dated anyone for this long?” J’ohn raised an eyebrow surprised by the new information about his earth daughter.
“ not that i know of at least”
“ that would explain the anxiety radiating off of her” J’ohn calmly stated, he turned around as supergirl landed with a thud on the balcony near them. Kara was holding a bag of take out in one hand she had a smile plastered on her face until she took a good look at the sight of a frustrated alex huffing at winn and James she had stopped yelling and moved to glaring disapprovingly. She walked over to J’ohn and eliza smiling and handing the two each a container of take out.
“ She still in a bad mood i see, i brought her food from that place in france she loves maybe it will cheer her up, nobody else needs to be yelled at by her she’s scary when she’s mad” Kara whispered over to Eliza and J’ohn who held back laughter at the last statement the mighty kryptonian who was still terrified of her older sister’s wrath.
“ hey! Alex i got you food” kara practically skipped over to her older sister sunny danvers smile on her lips.
“ is it from that place in france i like!” alex turned from berating James and winn to smile at her sister and taking the bag of take out from her hands and motioning with her head for them to head down to the DEO cafeteria.
“Yupp” Kara stated popping the p. As the duo walked down the halls agents dashed out of their way running from the oldest danvers wrath.
“ so you and maggie’s anniversary is next week are you excited?” kara was practically vibrating with excitement for her sister’s relationship. Alex seemed to clam up a bit she pursed her lips and shrunk a little into herself.
“ yeah, yeah of course i am” alex sounded half hearted in her response, kara quirked her head noticing her sisters hesitance.
“ what’s wrong you’re doing that thing?” kara said pushing open the cafeteria doors and leading her sister to sit at one of the corner tables.
“ i’m scared okay this is the first time i’ve had a year anniversary you know that what am i supposed to do, do i get flowers, is there a restaurant i’m supposed to figure a way into should i get her a present i need to get a present don’t i?” alex quickly babbles out nervously looking at Kara with what was close to shame in her eyes.
“ okay first you need to chill you will be fine, i can get you and maggie a reservation at a nice restaurant you get the present and send me a list of things you want to do and i will translate from there were a team” Kara smiled over at her sister holding her hand reassuringly.
“ really kara i don’t know i love you but i don’t know if you could set up a romantic dinner for an anniversary.” hesitancy shown on the older sister’s face.
“ I so can do you know how many events i planned for Miss Grant i can so handle this it will be nothing and i have the connections to clear out a restaurant for the two of you” kara smiled confidently at her older sister who huffed.
“ okay i guess you can i will handle the present you just handle the date part i guess don’t mess this up for me though or i won’t bring you anymore food for at least eight months” Kara swallowed and nodded her head vigorously.
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Alex had taken off early that day around six from the DEO so gathered around in the main floor in front of the conference table was what had to be a good 30% of the deo staff. Katra jumped up onto the conference table in front of the agents.
“ As we all know Alex has been overly,” she grimaced slightly waving her hands in the air “ aggressive this last week, due in part to her upcoming anniversary. I have gathered you all here to help organize the perfect anniversary dinner for her”
She was met with a few questioning and confused looks, all of the DEO was aware of agent Some of the crowd nodded following the line of thought, others simply grumbled to themselves J’ohn and eliza seemed slightly surprised by the idea James and Winn simply nodded.
“First off i need all of you to make a list of ideas second we need to clear a restaurant J’ohn i assume you can do that.” danvers current relationship partly due to the detective that stops by daily.
“ if we mess this up at all we will all be screwed severely screwed.” at this statement the whole room earnestly nodded. No one wanted to be responsible for ruining agent danvers anniversary.
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Thursday night
Alex and Maggie were going to arrive at the restaurant at seven the team had chosen Masterpiece as the restaurant for the twos date it is a high class restaurant situated on the top floor of one of national cities skyscrapers, the place was furnished as a mixture between early renaissance with a new age twist to it it had the elegance of the renaissance and the clean and shiny look of modern to it. The place had been a favorite restaurant of Miss Grant for dates.
Kara had gotten the restaurant staff to begrudgingly serve tonight the restaurant had been shut down by J’ohn he had used some sort of national security excuse to get the restaurant cleared. ( he may have called in a favor from the president that may or may not have required supergirl to show up to at least ten birthday parties) the restaurant had a large garden overlooking the city a large pond in the middle of the outdoor venue it had a platform designed similar to a chess board in the middle where people could stand there was a group of classical musicians set up on it.
Hector had a friend who worked in the national city orchestra and had pulled some strings to get three of the players from the orchestra to play for the night. Around the garden alcove were set a total of five tables four of which had been cleared the center table had unlit candles and a red tablecloth set on it the other tables had been set with small sculptures on them each surrounded by flowers. The agents had gone above and beyond to create the atmosphere of the restaurant Alex had given them a list of flowers maggie seemed more fond of and had given the idea for the sculptures.
(they had all listened to the story of how maggie had loved sculptures growing up, her aunt had taken her to art museums and she thought sculptures showed something special. When she was in highschool she had deven attempted to sculpt she had been okay at it)
The outdoor venue was lit with low littin from a few different lights that shone on the pond and up into the sky. There were sheets of cloth hanging from lanterns hund on the overhead covering of the garden. There were agents running around checking everything as Kara checked her phone every five seconds J’ohn was down at the ground floor keeping an eye out for the happy couple.
“ they are on there way I repeat They are on there way!” kara began running around informing everyone in the restaurant the staff scurried quickly to the kitchen and the agents darted out of the restaurant leaving Kara and Vasques to prepare the restaurant.
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“So danvers what super top secret place are you taking me to now” Maggie said nudging Alex with her elbow she was dressed in a tight fitting floor length red dress it was a similar style to the dress she had worn when they had busted the alien fight ring.
“ well i figured since you have taken me all over town i would get us some dinner at a new place” Alex dictated while holding maggie’s hand and leading her to the skyscraper which housed their restaurant for the evening.
They had gone from a few different places through the day Maggie had spent the day going back to all of the important places they had been together on a scavenger hunt almost to get her present which ended up being a ring with a eight ball designed into it was currently placed on alex’s right hand the small present had made alex smile and laugh at the thoughtful gift it was a nice ring.
“ okay so what am i about to walk into” maggie raised an eyebrow at her girl friend who seemed very hesitant at her own surprise. Maggie was wondering if Alex even knew what they were walking into.
“ well ive got us a diner at Masterpiece I’m not sure what all Kara has done though for a fair warning” she said the last part quietly almost shyly. She was rewarded with light warm laughter from Maggie. “ she kinda decided that she was gonna set up the dinner for us as i just gave her a list of things she had to have done.” alex sheepishly smiled at maggie.
“ Well lets see what little danvers did then i would hate to keep her waiting.” Maggie pulled alex’s hand causing her to walk just a bit faster towards their destination for dinner. She was a bundle of nerves at this point. She was terrified, Kara despite her good intentions could tend to mess things up by overlooking small details or getting distracted it’s part of what made her her.
Alex had gotten maggie a small necklaces with a jeweled emblem of a gun on it the same one as the one maggie had wanted from the deo she thought it would be good cause she couldn’t get her the actual gun she had tried and J’ohn had shot it down before she could even fully ask. She had spent the last few weeks trying to figure out what to get Maggie, they ranged from more romantic to guns or even beer she had no idea what to do.
They walked up to the skyscraper the light of the setting sun reflecting off of the building beautifully casting the perfect image as the two walked in. they headed up the elevator alex was squirming anxiously trying to be subtle as maggie smirked next to her shaking her head at her adorable girlfriend fretting over dinner.
“ You nervous Danvers.” “ um pshh no w-why would i be nervous.” Alex stuttered out unconvincingly. “ sure you’re not you nerd,” The detective teased “ i’m not!” Alex exclaimed unceremoniously. Maggie’s face went serious realizing that alex was overly scared over this dinner. She turned to alex her face soft and caring she gently placed her hands on Alex’s shoulders comfortingly. A small smile on her face she rubbed her girlfriend’s shoulders. “ hey look at me, I love you whether or not we spend our anniversary in some super fancy restaurant or at a hot dog stand in the park. I’m with you, ride or die remember.” Maggie leaned in gently kissing alex. She pulled back enough for the two to rest their foreheads on each other. Alex was smiling happily her hands now wrapped around maggie’s waist.
“ have i mentioned how amazing you are” alex whispered lovingly.
“ you could stand to mention it a bit more” maggie teased. Releasing alex’s shoulders she took alex’s left hand into hers and leaned her head into the taller womans shoulder as she gently rubbed circles over her hand. They spent the short rest of the elevator ride leaning into each other.
The elevator doors opened to reveal a stunningly set up restaurant it was a mix of renaissance style mixed with a modern touch. The front desk was a sheek mahogany wood with stainless steel highlights on the sides of the edges. The waiter stood behind the desk giving them a look that was somewhere between judging and relieved at their presence. They could see where the inside of the restaurant had been cleared of chairs and tables had been moved to create an ambiance there were sculptures on a few of the tables outside.
“ right this way please,” the waiter motioned for them to follow him as he made his way to the terrace where the fountain and garden were. Stepping out of what Maggie had already deemed an elegant restaurant she was left breathless at the view of National city’s sky line the lights of the buildings shining in the distance. The lights and lanterns shone around them Maggie noticed the small sculptures placed on tables off to the side. She smiled broadly knowing that alex had remembered her off handed comments about sculptures. Music slowly started playing from where there were three musicians situated over the fountain.
“ your table” the waiter motioned to the table situated on the other side of the band off to the end of the large terrace.
“ wow, just wow” Maggie said as she slipped into her seat looking across at her girlfriend whose nerves seemed to have been replaced by a near cocky smirk. The whole place gave off a feel of romance and elegance. “ your menus ma’ms “ the waiter handed over a menu to each of them. “ they even have fancy menu wow Kara” alex whispered under her breath, maggie laughed happily at her girlfriends obvious astonishment at the menus. “ I said that out loud didn’t I” alex sheepishly grimaced. “ yes you did Danvers” Maggie just watched her girlfriend be relaxed and her nerdy self. They looked over their menu’s in comfortable silence. The waiter who they found out is named Andy came back and took their orders.
“ so Danvers may I have this dance?” There was a playful teasing tone to the detective’s voice. Maggie stood and extended a hand to Alex, who took the outstretched hand and pushed herself out of her seat. They made their way over to the center of the veranda and began to gently and playfully dance to the music that the small band was playing.
They stayed that way moving back and forth trying to find the rhythm to a classical song that they did not know occasionally Alex would spin Maggie around laughing lightly. In that moment the rest of the world had melted away and all that mattered was the beautiful woman dancing with her. To Alex it felt like all of the puzzle pieces of her life had fallen into place. This was what it was about enjoying the company of her girlfriend letting the world slip away, taking all of it’s stress and fighting with it, she had an amazing girlfriend who she had been lucky enough to spend the last year with this was all she needed and all she wanted.
THE END.
A.N. Sorry for any grammar mistakes I don’t have anyone to double check over my mistakes right now. this is my first fic in this fandom I wasn’t able to find many headcanons on maggie alone or any that would help with the fic so I’m sorry if any of my personal headcanons are a bit ooc to you and i haven’t been able to watch all of the last few episodes ( mostly due to mon el he tends to be a bit triggering to me reminding me to much of my dad and his emotional manipulation/abuse) so if i skipped any major things i’m sorry constructive criticism is welcome. THANKS FOR READING!
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Sanvers anniversary
My tumblr is glitching so I'm not sure if this posted right the first time Sanvers fanfic DEO More like DRP department of romantic planning Saturday Just when people thought alex danvers could not get any more terrifying it happened the whole DEO knew that she had been dating detective sawyer for the last eleven months which is the longest Alex Danvers had ever been in a relationship. From the gossip that was going around the base the relationship was still going well then again no one was dumb enough to say a negative thing about that relationship from fear of either party's wrath. Dimples or no dimples detective sawyer could still scare the crap out of a person when she wanted to that is according to mon el who made the mistake of getting on the wrong side of said detective he nearly left with a lead knife in his heart. Alex had started the week on edge first going off on the people working the front desk for taking to long with letting her in. she later snapped at Henry the security guard for the containment units for not having them clean enough ( it’s quite hard to clean a containment cell inhabited by a gelatine based creature and keep it clean) she was going off on anyone and everyone who inconvienenced her in the slightest. Winn and james were currently taking the brute of her wrath. “ you two are going to blow the whole operation at this rate did either of you even think before you stormed into the warehouse!” alex shouted loudly her arms waving in the air in anger she could be heard shouting across the main deo floor. “ oh wait neither of you ever think do those brains of yours even work or do they just come up with ways to ruin deo operations!” J’ohn was leaning against a desk at the other end of the room eliza stood next to him watching quizzically at the confrontation taking place between the guardian duo and alex it was the second of the day, guardian had went into a warehouse where one of the national city gangs was said to have cept some of their tech he had gotten a lead that they were holding captives there it had ended up a bust and nearly gotten an undercover agent caught. “ you know i bet this has to do with the anniversary coming up” Eliza smiled softly chuckling a little while gesturing over towards where her daughter stood still shouting. “ she has never been in a relationship this long that i can remember she’s probably stressed” “ she's never dated anyone for this long?” J’ohn raised an eyebrow surprised by the new information about his earth daughter. “ not that i know of at least” “ that would explain the anxiety radiating off of her” J’ohn calmly stated, he turned around as supergirl landed with a thud on the balcony near them. Kara was holding a bag of take out in one hand she had a smile plastered on her face until she took a good look at the sight of a frustrated alex huffing at winn and James she had stopped yelling and moved to glaring disapprovingly. She walked over to J’ohn and eliza smiling and handing the two each a container of take out. “ She still in a bad mood i see, i brought her food from that place in france she loves maybe it will cheer her up, nobody else needs to be yelled at by her she's scary when she's mad” Kara whispered over to Eliza and J’ohn who held back laughter at the last statement the mighty kryptonian who was still terrified of her older sister's wrath. “ hey! Alex i got you food” kara practically skipped over to her older sister sunny danvers smile on her lips. “ is it from that place in france i like!” alex turned from berating James and winn to smile at her sister and taking the bag of take out from her hands and motioning with her head for them to head down to the DEO cafeteria. “Yupp” Kara stated popping the p. As the duo walked down the halls agents dashed out of their way running from the oldest danvers wrath. “ so you and maggie's anniversary is next week are you excited?” kara was practically vibrating with excitement for her sister’s relationship. Alex seemed to clam up a bit she pursed her lips and shrunk a little into herself. “ yeah, yeah of course i am” alex sounded half hearted in her response, kara quirked her head noticing her sisters hesitance. “ what's wrong you're doing that thing?” kara said pushing open the cafeteria doors and leading her sister to sit at one of the corner tables. “ i'm scared okay this is the first time i've had a year anniversary you know that what am i supposed to do, do i get flowers, is there a restaurant i'm supposed to figure a way into should i get her a present i need to get a present don't i?” alex quickly babbles out nervously looking at Kara with what was close to shame in her eyes. “ okay first you need to chill you will be fine, i can get you and maggie a reservation at a nice restaurant you get the present and send me a list of things you want to do and i will translate from there were a team” Kara smiled over at her sister holding her hand reassuringly. “ really kara i don't know i love you but i don't know if you could set up a romantic dinner for an anniversary.” hesitancy shown on the older sister's face. “ I so can do you know how many events i planned for Miss Grant i can so handle this it will be nothing and i have the connections to clear out a restaurant for the two of you” kara smiled confidently at her older sister who huffed. “ okay i guess you can i will handle the present you just handle the date part i guess don't mess this up for me though or i won't bring you anymore food for at least eight months” Kara swallowed and nodded her head vigorously. ================================================================ Alex had taken off early that day around six from the DEO so gathered around in the main floor in front of the conference table was what had to be a good 30% of the deo staff. Katra jumped up onto the conference table in front of the agents. “ As we all know Alex has been overly,” she grimaced slightly waving her hands in the air “ aggressive this last week, due in part to her upcoming anniversary. I have gathered you all here to help organize the perfect anniversary dinner for her” She was met with a few questioning and confused looks, all of the DEO was aware of agent Some of the crowd nodded following the line of thought, others simply grumbled to themselves J’ohn and eliza seemed slightly surprised by the idea James and Winn simply nodded. “First off i need all of you to make a list of ideas second we need to clear a restaurant J’ohn i assume you can do that.” danvers current relationship partly due to the detective that stops by daily. “ if we mess this up at all we will all be screwed severely screwed.” at this statement the whole room earnestly nodded. No one wanted to be responsible for ruining agent danvers anniversary. ====================================================================== ========================================= Thursday night Alex and Maggie were going to arrive at the restaurant at seven the team had chosen Masterpiece as the restaurant for the twos date it is a high class restaurant situated on the top floor of one of national cities skyscrapers, the place was furnished as a mixture between early renaissance with a new age twist to it it had the elegance of the renaissance and the clean and shiny look of modern to it. The place had been a favorite restaurant of Miss Grant for dates. Kara had gotten the restaurant staff to begrudgingly serve tonight the restaurant had been shut down by J’ohn he had used some sort of national security excuse to get the restaurant cleared. ( he may have called in a favor from the president that may or may not have required supergirl to show up to at least ten birthday parties) the restaurant had a large garden overlooking the city a large pond in the middle of the outdoor venue it had a platform designed similar to a chess board in the middle where people could stand there was a group of classical musicians set up on it. Hector had a friend who worked in the national city orchestra and had pulled some strings to get three of the players from the orchestra to play for the night. Around the garden alcove were set a total of five tables four of which had been cleared the center table had unlit candles and a red tablecloth set on it the other tables had been set with small sculptures on them each surrounded by flowers. The agents had gone above and beyond to create the atmosphere of the restaurant Alex had given them a list of flowers maggie seemed more fond of and had given the idea for the sculptures. (they had all listened to the story of how maggie had loved sculptures growing up, her aunt had taken her to art museums and she thought sculptures showed something special. When she was in highschool she had deven attempted to sculpt she had been okay at it) The outdoor venue was lit with low littin from a few different lights that shone on the pond and up into the sky. There were sheets of cloth hanging from lanterns hund on the overhead covering of the garden. There were agents running around checking everything as Kara checked her phone every five seconds J’ohn was down at the ground floor keeping an eye out for the happy couple. “ they are on there way I repeat They are on there way!” kara began running around informing everyone in the restaurant the staff scurried quickly to the kitchen and the agents darted out of the restaurant leaving Kara and Vasques to prepare the restaurant. ======================================================================== “So danvers what super top secret place are you taking me to now” Maggie said nudging Alex with her elbow she was dressed in a tight fitting floor length red dress it was a similar style to the dress she had worn when they had busted the alien fight ring. “ well i figured since you have taken me all over town i would get us some dinner at a new place” Alex dictated while holding maggie's hand and leading her to the skyscraper which housed their restaurant for the evening. They had gone from a few different places through the day Maggie had spent the day going back to all of the important places they had been together on a scavenger hunt almost to get her present which ended up being a ring with a eight ball designed into it was currently placed on alex’s right hand the small present had made alex smile and laugh at the thoughtful gift it was a nice ring. “ okay so what am i about to walk into” maggie raised an eyebrow at her girl friend who seemed very hesitant at her own surprise. Maggie was wondering if Alex even knew what they were walking into. “ well ive got us a diner at Masterpiece I’m not sure what all Kara has done though for a fair warning” she said the last part quietly almost shyly. She was rewarded with light warm laughter from Maggie. “ she kinda decided that she was gonna set up the dinner for us as i just gave her a list of things she had to have done.” alex sheepishly smiled at maggie. “ Well lets see what little danvers did then i would hate to keep her waiting.” Maggie pulled alex’s hand causing her to walk just a bit faster towards their destination for dinner. She was a bundle of nerves at this point. She was terrified, Kara despite her good intentions could tend to mess things up by overlooking small details or getting distracted it’s part of what made her her. Alex had gotten maggie a small necklaces with a jeweled emblem of a gun on it the same one as the one maggie had wanted from the deo she thought it would be good cause she couldn't get her the actual gun she had tried and J’ohn had shot it down before she could even fully ask. She had spent the last few weeks trying to figure out what to get Maggie, they ranged from more romantic to guns or even beer she had no idea what to do. They walked up to the skyscraper the light of the setting sun reflecting off of the building beautifully casting the perfect image as the two walked in. they headed up the elevator alex was squirming anxiously trying to be subtle as maggie smirked next to her shaking her head at her adorable girlfriend fretting over dinner. “ You nervous Danvers.” “ um pshh no w-why would i be nervous.” Alex stuttered out unconvincingly. “ sure you’re not you nerd,” The detective teased “ i'm not!” Alex exclaimed unceremoniously. Maggie’s face went serious realizing that alex was overly scared over this dinner. She turned to alex her face soft and caring she gently placed her hands on Alex’s shoulders comfortingly. A small smile on her face she rubbed her girlfriend's shoulders. “ hey look at me, I love you whether or not we spend our anniversary in some super fancy restaurant or at a hot dog stand in the park. I’m with you, ride or die remember.” Maggie leaned in gently kissing alex. She pulled back enough for the two to rest their foreheads on each other. Alex was smiling happily her hands now wrapped around maggie’s waist. “ have i mentioned how amazing you are” alex whispered lovingly. “ you could stand to mention it a bit more” maggie teased. Releasing alex's shoulders she took alex’s left hand into hers and leaned her head into the taller womans shoulder as she gently rubbed circles over her hand. They spent the short rest of the elevator ride leaning into each other. The elevator doors opened to reveal a stunningly set up restaurant it was a mix of renaissance style mixed with a modern touch. The front desk was a sheek mahogany wood with stainless steel highlights on the sides of the edges. The waiter stood behind the desk giving them a look that was somewhere between judging and relieved at their presence. They could see where the inside of the restaurant had been cleared of chairs and tables had been moved to create an ambiance there were sculptures on a few of the tables outside. “ right this way please,” the waiter motioned for them to follow him as he made his way to the terrace where the fountain and garden were. Stepping out of what Maggie had already deemed an elegant restaurant she was left breathless at the view of National city's sky line the lights of the buildings shining in the distance. The lights and lanterns shone around them Maggie noticed the small sculptures placed on tables off to the side. She smiled broadly knowing that alex had remembered her off handed comments about sculptures. Music slowly started playing from where there were three musicians situated over the fountain. “ your table” the waiter motioned to the table situated on the other side of the band off to the end of the large terrace. “ wow, just wow” Maggie said as she slipped into her seat looking across at her girlfriend whose nerves seemed to have been replaced by a near cocky smirk. The whole place gave off a feel of romance and elegance. “ your menus ma’ms “ the waiter handed over a menu to each of them. “ they even have fancy menu wow Kara” alex whispered under her breath, maggie laughed happily at her girlfriends obvious astonishment at the menus. “ I said that out loud didn't I” alex sheepishly grimaced. “ yes you did Danvers” Maggie just watched her girlfriend be relaxed and her nerdy self. They looked over their menu’s in comfortable silence. The waiter who they found out is named Andy came back and took their orders. “ so Danvers may I have this dance?” There was a playful teasing tone to the detective’s voice. Maggie stood and extended a hand to Alex, who took the outstretched hand and pushed herself out of her seat. They made their way over to the center of the veranda and began to gently and playfully dance to the music that the small band was playing. They stayed that way moving back and forth trying to find the rhythm to a classical song that they did not know occasionally Alex would spin Maggie around laughing lightly. In that moment the rest of the world had melted away and all that mattered was the beautiful woman dancing with her. To Alex it felt like all of the puzzle pieces of her life had fallen into place. This was what it was about enjoying the company of her girlfriend letting the world slip away, taking all of it's stress and fighting with it, she had an amazing girlfriend who she had been lucky enough to spend the last year with this was all she needed and all she wanted. THE END. A.N. this is my first fic in this fandom I wasn’t able to find many headcanons on maggie alone or any that would help with the fic so I’m sorry if any of my personal headcanons are a bit ooc to you and i haven't been able to watch all of the last few episodes ( mostly due to mon el he tends to be a bit triggering to me reminding me to much of my dad and his emotional manipulation/abuse) so if i skipped any major things i'm sorry constructive criticism is welcome. THANKS FOR READING! Sorry for any spelling or grammar errors
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