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Accentuations of Nigel and Alex.
*Accentuation of personality is the personality traits that tend to move to a pathological condition. Possible negative aspects of such state between normal and pathology usually occur under the influence of unfavorable external factors.
I had the option to use the Leonhard type classification, but it is quite outdated and has some inaccuracies, so I used the Lichko classification. According to Lichko’s classification, all types are described in more detail, and the classification itself is more popular. I haven’t found any more common or newer classifications. In addition, the Lichko system is more applicable to teenagers, so I think the choice is more justified.
If we look at the film directly, without taking into account any guesswork. Nigel has the traits of Schizoid, Paranoid and Epileptoid. Alex Hysteroid with paranoid traits.
Nigel, as we know, is a mentally and physically developed person, he is of normal build. He is consistent, attentive to details, calm, careful in his notes and clothes. He has a difficult relationship with his parents, who raised him in conditions of increased moral responsibility. In addition, there may have been a harsh upbringing because Nigel is able to tell by ear whether his Father is picking up a gun. In addition, he hates his father, which can also indicate that their relationship had a harsh upbringing and increased demands. However, everything seems to be fine on the mother’s side, because he talks to her about what he cannot tell his father.
These types of unwanted upbringing and family environment can provoke accentuations close to psychopathy.
Nigel is definitely and predominantly typed as Schizoid. Nigel is shown to us as essentially withdrawn. He is mostly isolated from others, he does not want (more likely does not want than is not able) to establish contacts with peers, he has a reduced need for communication. He is cold and does have the untypical restraint for a teenager. Spiritual loneliness does not particularly bother him, because the only contact he established was only with Alex and only when he decided that Alex was worthy of this very contact. Nigel lives in his own world, with his own unusual interests and hobbies. Hobbies of an intellectual and aesthetic nature are characteristic of a schizoid. All this is never done for show, only for oneself.
Despite the fact that Nigel conditionally penetrates Alex's thoughts, he still does not intuitively grasp the hostile attitude towards himself and when he should not impose his presence.
The inner world, as already indicated, is always closed from prying eyes and only in front of a select few the curtain can suddenly be lifted. Interests are shared in exceptional cases. Perhaps Nigel, in a lesson where Alex was arguing with the teacher, saw a hint of a common interest between them. Alex is the chosen one for Nigel, so he begins to actively draw him into his inner world in all available ways.
In addition, as we can observe, Nigel's behavior is quite contradictory. At first he was silent and looked closely, then he opened up and gave Alex smiles more than once.
In addition, Nigel has clear features of the Epileptoid type and has Epileptoid type affects. (nothing to do with epilepsy). The affect of an epileptoid is like a steam boiler; person incubates for a long time and conceals within itself emotions that find a sudden release, an explosive reaction. (Suicide with collapse of beliefs). In general, the suicide scene also demonstrates the suicidal model characteristic of Epileptoid. Nigel shot himself from Alex's hands rather to show him the state of affairs that Nigel himself sees. It is possible that this was also intended to punish Alex for his resistance.
Epileptoid also corresponds to scrupulousness and pedantry in running any household, including student farming.
Nigel's love (maybe it was love, who knows) is colored by the dark tones of jealousy. Jealousy is quite strong, reaching the point of a valuable idea. In the end, out of jealousy, he goes to kill Susan. Probably so that she doesn't interfere.
In addition, he suppresses Alex's will and tries to gain power over his minds. The desire for power, extreme actions - all this is characteristic of an epileptoid.
Traits of the Paranoid type manifest themselves in overvalued ideas. Nigel is confident in the uniqueness of his origins, especially his destiny. Everything Nigel says is absolutely true. Nigel is confident that he has the right to everything he puport. He overestimates his personality, wisdom and understanding of everything.
He cherishes his ideas and shows extreme fanaticism towards them, bringing an extremely valuable idea to the status of a “crazy idea”.
She gives herself to the idea with exceptional passion, does not accept rejection, and convinces Alex of the value of her idea. It is common for a paranoid person to suffer defeat in a war for his beliefs. But having been defeated, he does not despair, does not become despondent, does not know that he is wrong; on the contrary, from failures he draws strength for further struggle.
Alex. Asthenic, also mentally developed, physically corresponds to his age. He was also brought up in undesirable conditions, without a real home, with increased moral responsibility. His father is emotionally distant from him, does not listen to his son’s requests, and is not interested in anything other than Alex’s assessments. Even in a difficult situation, he still distances himself from Alex. There is no mother.
Throughout the story, he demonstrates obvious features of a hysteroid.
All his behavior is aimed at capturing the attention of anyone: his father, school friends, Nigel, a psychologist. Demanding admiration, surprise, and reverence for one’s personality. Boundless egocentrism. At worst, he prefers indignation or hatred, but not indifference. Suggestibility, which is often brought to the fore, is selective. Hysteroids willingly act in public and show artistic abilities. Apparent emotionality actually turns into a lack of deep feelings with great expression of emotions, theatricality, and a tendency to show off and pose.
Alex also has the easily wounded pride characteristic of a hysteroid. He read the diary and Nigel's opinion about himself and decided to teach him a lesson, to show that elders should be respected.
Hysterics retain the childish reactions of the opposition. Having received a rebuff from Nigel, Alex took on the role of a “quiet” teenager who seemed to be sick from the outside, putting on a mask of indifference and painful loss.
It is also possible to refuse all “masks”, since Nigel literally saw through it. Withdrawing into oneself and leaving the company in this state of affairs is a typical reaction of a hysteroid.
The emancipation of a hysteroid has violent manifestations: running away from home, conflicts with elders, demands for freedom and independence. All this was also demonstrated to us. Alex constantly ran away from school at night with his friends, and demanded that his father not move neighbors in with him.
In the group, Alex characteristically takes the position of leader. In an impulse, he can easily lead a company. Alex also has a good intuitive sense. He reads the horror in the eyes of a friend on the verge of death, guesses who is giving him unusual “gifts”, and finds a good moment to ask Susan out on a date.
Hobbies are concentrated in the area of egocentric hobby. Just like schizoids, they pick up unusual hobbies, but unlike schizoids, they are more for show. Knowing that Alex's school is quite religious, he studies history and presents the facts to the teachers in such a way as to once again omit religious motives, bringing more prosaic ones to the fore.
Alex's self-esteem is far from objective; he emphasizes traits in himself that can make an impression at the moment.
Just like Nigel, he demonstrates paranoid type ideas. The extremely valuable idea of its exclusivity.
No wonder Nigel confirms this with his note “Alex is an egocentric megalomaniac with delusions of grandeur.” In addition, Alex is painfully touchy.
He evaluates all the people with whom Alex comes into contact by the attitude they show towards his activities. He does not forgive disagreement and indifference.
Now, if we look at the story in reverse, from the perspective of an unreliable narrator. Alex is the mastermind, Nigel the victim.
They, in fact, change characters with each other, but everything takes on more sinister and categorical features. Their Types become more pure.
Alex takes on the image of a more classic epileptoid, who is terrifying in his behavior in essence.
Long-lasting dysphoria comes first in Alex’s behavior and motivation, which, transforming into affect, is completely taken out on Nigel.
Alex probably has sadistic tendencies if he was the one who intimidated Nigel with a severed hand and a bloody knife. (We swapped them after all). It is possible that Alex committed the murder of Susan, because again, I repeat, such extreme actions as murder and fights at school are characteristic of an epileptoid.
In such positions, Alex is definitely a quarrelsome, conflicted teenager. In addition, the methods of reprisal against the victim by epiletoid teenagers are more developed. They are distinguished by extraordinary meanness.
The paranoid component of an overvalued idea is also present.
Nigel, if we consider him from the position of a victim who, by the will of fate, was not lucky enough to get along with Alex, loses all his epileptoid and paranoid traits. He still has the Schizoid type.
#I started a course in psychiatry at university#Could I pass by and not write this article?#Absolutely not#Of course there may be inaccuracies#because psychiatry is as accurate as astrology#like minds#like minds 2006#murderous intent#nigel colbie#alex forbes#like minds analysis
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anyway you thought i wouldn't have noticed that in the movie shoyo scores the point with that toss™, while in the manga it's received (by yaku if i remember). and i noticed it tho (save me). i still haven't figured out whether to be happy or not about this change.
#OF COURSE i noticed it. my delusional ass couldn't miss a detail like that in the ultimate kagehina scene of the movie for excellence.#ok enough now you can take me to the psychiatry ward come on.#haikyuu#hinata shoyo#kageyama tobio#kagehina
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High-potency cannabis use is tied to epigenetic changes, study suggests
Thought this article is cool, since marijuana is now legal in Canada and (most of?) the USA.
We always knew it could affect a developing brain, but literally changing and permanently "altering" a person's DNA by leaving lasting effects...
#i use medicinal marijuana for my fibromyalgia and other pain and panic disorders#marijuana and alterning your DNA article#marijuana article#informative article#use of marijuana over 10% THC#studies show of course#science#psychology#psychiatry#tw drug mention
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Thinking about when i studied counselling at uni and they straight up told us that cbt has negative outcomes for many people and shouldn't become a standard for care, all talking therapies seem to have the same efficacy as each other, many psychologists think therapy is ineffective altogether, serotonin and dopamine don't work like that we just act like they do because pills that prevent their reuptake help people*, all diagnoses are a socially created (and enforced) map that shifts and changes with time and culture, and any one person could have been diagnosed and treated differently by myriad different doctors based on luck and social factors
Shame its practitioners don't think so
#anti psychiatry#when it came time to pick a master's degree it turned out every single professionally recognised course was pseudoscience#so i have to choose between practising actual bullshit or not becoming a proper psychotherapist#their rationale: it doesn't make a difference what the therapy is because it doesn't matter#also good luck trying to get into the mental health sphere if you're not able to pay £££#so many people get into it as a hobby after retiring from middle class positions. which I'm sure doesn't contribute to its problems at all#like they taught us to formulate our own approaches and beliefs and then told us we're only getting a job if we take up someone else's#training is gonna suck shit yall#like. i see some efficacy and potential in it that's why i want in. but... it's like being trained super well on food hygeine and safety and#then becoming a line cook at the filthiest restaurant and learning everywhere in town is the same. yknow?#i think therapy is useful. i also think it's not for everyone. after all that's what they taught me and they used evidence to do it#anyway
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I’ve got an essay to write today 😢 so if you see me on here or on my main tell me to go away
#pls and thank you#sorry I’m a very big procrastinator#unless of course you want to know about the history of psychiatry
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maybe i’m wrong but not only do suicidal people deserve better than a hotline but straight up most of the people perpetuating the idea that it’s the ‘best option’ are looking at life far too.. clinically?
you can’t have a ‘deep’ conversation without being told there’s pills for how you feel, even if you’re just feeling cynical for a moment. you can’t be upset with results of an election without being given a nocebo-esque suggestion that you might as well be dead already if you don’t call the hotline.
i think people forget that we are way too far away from nature. obviously we don’t have to abandon technology and risk getting eaten by wolves while living deep in the forest but a lot of us depend on online interaction, eat crap food, hardly exercise, don’t sleep enough.
mentally illness exists, shit i’ve been living most of my life with it, but when you live in a complete mockery of what a society should be and get told to take pills that fuck up your libido and fix absolutely nothing, of course your life gets worse. the conversations i’ve had with therapists have all been things i could’ve been told by a good friend over a coffee and the best changes that have happened to me have literally came from going through the motions of life.
you live with abusive parents, you’re burnt out, you live under a government with a lot of worthless rules, you’ve gone through a lot of trauma in your life. you don’t want to ‘trigger’ or give your good friends too much emotional labour for a long and real chat, a connection. so so where do you go?
why is therapy and psychiatry a mediocre version of the friendship and life experience you need to function? you need community and maybe a bit of ‘magic’ in your life. you don’t need to see yourself as data and chemical imbalances. you don’t need to blame anyone or anything or give things complex labels to exist. it is better to fix the root problem as best as you can rather than end up on a wild goose med chase with PSSD.
#you really do need friends. start getting involved with your community#obviously some people need medication but i’ve met far too many people who got fucked over by it#and how can your consent be ‘informed’ if you’re being fearmongered into doing these treatments/there’s such a massive incentive for others#to make you take said meds? it’s such a shitshow. of course we’re all fucking depressed#anti psychiatry#kinda#social commentary#society#thoughts#spilled thoughts#mental health#friendship#you deserve better
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i'm gonna have an in person class-session from my sociology of mental illnesses course. i'm gonna fucking kill myself
#i don't wanna listen to the same thing all over again this is not psychiatry stop forcing that shit on me#there isn't even an s of sociology in this course#mentall illness posting#ura.txt
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I want people to read their scientific articles before sending them to me. Like actually read the entire thing or at least read the conclusion. Reading the first line and thinking that that means you understand the entire topic is very inaccurate, and it makes you look like a joke when i actually read it and find that it contradicts your point.
#my post#vent#i got blocked by a very popular anti-swiftie blog who i used to follow because i told then to not use the ableist term “narcissistic abuse”#and of course before they blocked me they fired back with you're woke who thinks everything is offensive here's a link from doctors#which 1. Not all doctors are moral - my peers actually make me sick and i have info from dental students that dentists are also horrible#the literal reason i wanna go into psychiatry is because the field needs reform and i want to help reform it#and 2. the article literally said that the term is incorrect cause not all people with narcissism are abusive and it creates a stigma#against people who literally have childhood trauma#and some of whom (not all) are actually trying to be better despite the constant dehumanisation#also even the medical term can't be applied to here? cause calling someone who's not diagnosed with NPD a narcissist because they're toxic#is not medically accurate#it's literally “delulu” and “gaslight” all over again#like stop taking psychology words if you don't want to search up the actual definitions#which ironically enough was in the article i was sent#ngl i'm confused as to why i didn't block them before#i love being a hater (seen from this entire post made for one person) but come on#some of the stuff was out of no-where (mainly the hating on her appearance - like the rest was genuine criticism but this?)#and then on top of that using Palestine as a way to get people to hate on her but then go be besties with a raging zionist?#seems like using Palestine for the clicks there#speaking of Zionists: that one zionist who sent me a shit ton of articles which disapproved their points#like i cannot make this up they sent me 2 articles on how Ashkenazi Jews didn't genetically originate from the Levant#(that isn't to say they aren't Middle Easterners - just genetically they don't show a strong connection to that specific region in the ME#and obviously genetics is weird so there's that)#and apparently culturally grew came from Iran + Siberia + Turkey + Germany (i.e. their cultures are a mix of those)#and of course the Arab conquests to represent colonisation (as if i was denying that happened) but the article wasn't about the Levant#literally i can't with people#if you think you can science your way out of this you better listen to my spiel about Validity#can't give the science and health kid science stuff and expect them to not actually read it#vent post#tw vent
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time for antidepressants, babe.
sorry id rather kms
#i mean jk of course hahahahaha…….but.#what is psychiatry’s answer for ppl who are mentally ill but have pharmaceutical anxiety!!
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Today in my unwanted adventures as chief registrar, I got to tell a fully grown doctor to stop yelling at me and to look at the correct month in her calendar before accusing me of cancelling her leave without telling her.
So that was exciting.
#of course I didn't cancel her leave#this was an actual adult who did this#ready to rage quit#psychiatry#medblr#medicine#pgy5
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i need to flesh out my tags about diagnosis/psychiatry for my own personal gain because I feel like I'm onto something but my brain is moving too fast to physically write it down so here we are.
basically psychiatry at its core is responsible for creating and naming categories under which all of humanity is meant to fit. (even if you don't have a MH diagnosis, you are therefore not mentally ill / neurotypical, which becomes a category of its own.) a lot of mental health awareness campaign's language lies in this idea that mental disorder does not discriminate, that it can affect anyone at any point in their lives -- it's giving He sees you when you're sleeping, he knows when you're awake boogie man panopticon vibes...
& speaking of foucault, I think the basic concept that, states wield power by creating knowledge systems that create subjects, is really important to the anti-psychiatry critique. the subjectivity of psychiatry is kind of its most obvious facet. what's MIRACULOUS is that, in the last 50 years, psychiatry and psychology have managed to convince a staggering load of people that they are SCIENTIFIC and OBJECTIVE fields; that there are really truly chemical / biological / neurological sources we can point to in which we will find all of the answers for human suffering. I'd argue this quick acceptance is in portion due to neoliberalism and rapidly growing technologies of surveillance -- the DSM-3, which basically put psychiatry on the map as a legitimate field, was published in 1980. psychotropics have also had a big role in legitimizing the psy-discipline's attempt to class themselves among the medical fields, despite the fact that we still don't really know why psychotropics Work for Some People.
but even if we did know why they "worked," we also need to question what we consider "working" under conditions of hegemonic capitalism. in which ways do medications alter human behavior and belief in order to make our lives easier for ourselves and others? what actions and acceptances are deemed healthy under the influence of psychotropic drugs? psychiatrists track your progress on the drug in line with how well you are functioning as a normal, productive human being. is being happy not better for labor?
this is not to say that I think the distress that may fall under psychiatric diagnoses is not real or valid. on the contrary, I think they're very real experiences and very valid experiences. but I don't think they need to be classified as anything. because I believe that 1. suffering and distress are inevitable facets of any meaningful life and 2. there is no one "correct" way to experience distress or suffering or to be a human being in this world -- in fact a diverse range of reactions to the human experience is not only inevitable but also amazing and beautiful and sacred.
anyway, it would be misguided to believe that, in another world, perhaps under a different economic structure, we could have a psychiatry that is objective and not suited to the interests of the powerful. because that's all psychiatry has ever done, regardless of whatever cloaks it wears that tell us otherwise. its quest as a field has always been to sort out the normal from the abnormal and force the abnormal back to normal for the sake of capital. its even easier when we just go along with it happily. will we ever be able to see this? even more so, can we accept that we will never be able to objectively or scientifically understand and chart humankind in our vast complexity, and that's fucking magnificent?
#think it could be interesting to see psychiatry as a new kind of religious moralizing due to increasing secularization#its claim to be objective science is rlly interesting in that context#is there a world where we care for one another in our suffering for the sake of community and not capital#of course -- but that's not psychiatry
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The devastating effects that my anxiety-induced ED left on my body and health and me SHing with needles when i was 15 suddenly leaving me because dafne said that my problems weren't as bad as hers because she got diagnosed with depression and i didn't:
#namedropping her btw i am so fucking tired of her bullshit#you dont get to invalidate me and my trauma and emotionally blackmail me by saying that if i stop accomodating you#by saying 'oooh you're doing so well it's never your fault' you're gonna commit suicide#jesus christ. i am 18. i don't have a psychology degree and i don't want to ruin my already fleeting stability#to help a person who functionally was never there for me when i was at the bottom of the barrel#and like. just because you aren't diagnosed doesnt mean you arent suffering. im probably never going to a psychiatrist#until i do something extreme because my parents are the classical italian conservatives that think of therapy as a get out scot free card#and i already have trauma regarding psychiatry#but i have issues. i have massive fucking issues and i had suicidal thoughts even before i left kindergarten because my early childhood#was fucking awful! i am pretty much emotionally numb to most of the things around me because i had to force myself to be like that#to not have daily mental breakdowns!#but of course you won't know because i have never been a fucking friend to you@#for all the five years of our 'friendship' i was only the girl who you only approached to use as a psychologist#i have never been a person to you!
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Just btw, the reason I got out of IOP early is because all the losers being babies about the pandemic hit me like that screencap from 4chan where the guy was bewildered out of being fucked up.
#the only reason I went was my PCP assured me it was an intensive course that would teach me useful shit#I learned more from self-help zillenial clout chasers on YT than this fucking IOP shit#in fact my IOP experience is probably what cemented my contempt for psychiatry as a whole#group struggle sessions and madlib self-help worksheets it was literally kindergarten for adults
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Petite sortie de l'hôpital psychiatrique pour aller au magasin l'Intermarché pour acheter du tabac et des filtres à tabac. Pour le retour j'ai pris le bus 18.
#sortie#Institution psychiatrique#institution#psychiatry#psychiatrie#santé mentale#mental health#courses#hainaut#belgique#belgium#mons
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LES VOIX DU FOU (on Wattpad) https://www.wattpad.com/1458490447-les-voix-du-fou?utm_source=web&utm_medium=tumblr&utm_content=share_reading&wp_uname=Nakcaye Une nuit noire et pluvieuse, un homme court, trempé, fuyant des voix qui le poursuivent. Il entre dans un ancien hôpital étrange et trouve un enfant appelé "l'enfant araignée", marqué par des coups et des lacérations. L'homme prend la main de l'enfant et ils montent au premier étage, traversant des couloirs étroits remplis de malades agonisants, les poursuivants se rapprochent.
#asile#course#enfant#etrange#fantastique#fou#fuir#horreur#horror#hpital#livre#malade#nouvelle#nuit#paranoa#possession#possd#psy#psychiatrie#psycothique#roman#sombre#voix#books#wattpad#amreading
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The fact almost every woman I know/see older than 45 years old has a prescription for benzos is horrific and it's always the same pattern.
Woman? Older than 45? DAILY benzos for you. In this country (Spain) they literally give you benzos as if they are candy, and if you're a woman older than 45 your probability of getting one is even higher.
#never forget when my general doctor/family doctor/whatever is called in english#wanted to prescribe me antipsychotics (she said neuroleptic because it sounds better i guess) because#i told her i have a lot ot thoughts and are a burden#she tried to prescribe an extremely med to me without a psychiatrist analysis before hand#just for that reason?? she tried to treat a very extremely obvious case related to anxiety with neuroleptics#i of course said no#extremely side effect med to me** cant fix it im on mobile#its cheaper to drug your patients when a lot of the cases are a societal or culture issue instead of changing that society/culture#tldr psychology and psychiatry in a lot of the cases (not always ofc) is a palliative to avoid changing the root problem
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