#odin and frigga

[literatureatthebowofnails]

I would love to see something for excerpts for Odin's A+ Parenting Playbook.

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Midgardians say "Children are like pancakes; you always mess up the first one."

I'm unfamiliar with pancakes, and I have no knowlege of servant's duties, but it sounds as though pancakes are both disposable and of minimal value. Therefore, I must agree with the assessment that children are indeed like pancakes.

One must consider that for a king, children require minimal effort to create. It takes but a single act to get a child upon a queen, or for that matter any woman. In the event a king is unable to do so, it is just as simple to slaughter a race, invade a sacred place of worship and kidnap save an infant doomed to die of exposure. A death which the infant or the infant's parents were surely the cause of, and which had nothing at all to do with the recent actions of the king.

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Raising an only child has its benefits, though raising siblings together presents significant, distinct rewards.

When a king has but a single child, he can mold that offspring into a weapon of war. Together they shall lead campaigns throughout the Nine Realms, pillage and plunder every worthless little civilization, hoarding resource for themselves and leaving nothing but destruction in their wake.

All shall worship a king who has but one heir. All, unfortunately, but the heir.

I've learned over my many centuries that it's rather difficult to prevent an only child from becoming narsisistic. Particularly when the child is a princess of Asgard and the goddess of death.

We are all bound to make mistakes; it is how we right those wrongs that truly matters.

As stated previously, children are like pancakes. Having learned more about the lower lifeforms that inhabit Midgard, it seems the ideal method of addressing damaged pancakes is to have a servant throw them out.

By such reasoning, I ordered an elite force of warriors to imprison Hela so I never had to think about her again. She killed the entire batallion, and I must continuously siphon my power to maintain her imprisonment, but it's a small price to pay to keep her a secret and avoid awkward conversations, such as "what world will we ravage next?" and "why didn't you tell us we have a sister?"

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I started anew; fresh, with a son. And though I told Hela I no longer wished to fight wars or commit genocide, old patterns oft maintain themselves. Jotunheim began an ice age on Midgard, and it was a perfect excuse to put the Frost Giants in their place.

What's more, I obtained a tiny baby icicle to take home as a little brother for Thor. My new eldest was very young, so we told him all babies come from Jotunheim. I don't believe we ever got around to correcting that story...

As is custom, Frigga and I had received the birth and anointing announcements for Laufey's son. Thus, having slaughtered the child's mother and left his father dying in ruins of what had been a grand castle but days before, I decided to keep the child's name.

This served two purposes: I didn't have to come up with another name, and when I needed a bargaining chip in the future, Laufey would recognize it as his child, despite Loki's Asgardian appearance.

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When raising children together, one must always choose a favorite. For me, Thor was the obvious choice; he wasn't adopted or a monster.

A king must ensure not just his children, but all his subjects know which is the better child. Then courtiers might know one child is greater in every way; that despite brutish, stubborn incompetence, he deserves to inherit the throne, whatever the cost to the realm.

One may even do this subtly, by having the favorite child served first at dinner, always giving them better toys, or in the way they speak to their children.

Try these examples:

"Only one of you can ascend to the throne, but both of you were born to be kings." Simply growling when the lesser child tries to speak. Avoiding sleep until your adopted child has an exestential crisis, then choosing that very moment to take a nap. Remember, awkward conversations with children should be avoided at all costs. Putting a spell on a hammer in front of your adopted child, ensurring only people you consider worthy can pick it up. Your adopted child, by default, will never be worthy.

Each of these examples instills your favoritism, while simotaneously suggesting that you're simply parenting and governing, in a fair and reasonable manner.

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[melia-laufeyson]

Thank you Apollo for your divine guidance, love, acceptance, and healing!

Thank you Hermes and Zeus for your welcoming energy, family like feeling, and acceptance!

Thank you Dionysus for a fun time during times of stress!

Thank you Odin for your love, acceptance, wisdom, and advice!

Thank you Aphrodite, and Freyja/Frigga for your love, wisdom, and strength!

Thank you Loki for the laughter, fun, and transformation!

[galaxythreads]

Lol, I've been on tumblr for 2 years, almost 3, and this is the first time I've ever been tagged for my opinion on something that I can recall. Thanks! It was actually kinda flattering. Also you opened pandoras box and I'm prone to long, rambling metas so brace yourself. Here we go.

LE (long) RANT ABOUT MALEKITH:

*cracks knuckles* One of the big things that TDW is accused of is that it has jokes for a plot and that Malekith is the most forgettable, useless villain in the entirety of MCU. I don't agree with the first point, but I do the second. I also recognize that TDW is like...sacred text to some of the fandom, so I'm going to try and tread my criticisms lightly, but!

The Dark World DOES have story problems and one of the huge ones IS Malekith. You ask the average viewer and they will not be able to tell you his name. He's not like Red Skull, the Ten Rings, Thanos, etc. You ask the average WRITER viewer what Malekith's motivation/goal in the story is and their answer will range from "WELL i have a theory about xyz" or "idk girl, he's just there as a plot device."

Is that bad? Not necessarily. Sometimes villains are just there to be a plot device that drives the story and that's fine. But the thing is, those villains are not always memorable. Jim Moriarty in BBC Sherlock just exists as a plot device, he's not really a person, but he works fine and is one of the most memorable villains in BBC television. In contrast to the villain of Justice League 2017 (Steppenwolf? you guys I've seen this movie like 10+ times how do I not know this) whose villain is ALSO just a plot device and was handled horribly. No one remembers his name or even basic details about him.

So the thing is - it must NOT be the fact that the villain is just a plot device that breaks or makes a movie/tv series, right?

Right.

So what is the difference between the two? How personal they are to the main character.

Moriarty is obsessed with Sherlock. He gets Sherlock's brother to tell him his life story, and he sets up cases for Sherlock to solve, Moriarty was the only villain in the entirety of BBC that worked with Sherlock and it got so bad that the writers brought him back from the dead not once, but twice! (three times? It's been a second since I saw the show). Moriarty is a parallel character to Sherlock. Moriarty matters to Sherlock. He threatens the people that Sherlock loves, he forces Sherlock to leave London, he is the driving force of plot for four seasons. Yes, BBC Sherlock hates you, but the Moriarty/Sherlock thing - it worked. It worked well. And it was because of that personability.

This is Moriarty's desire ^. This has to do with Sherlock. Moriarty is not a person outside of being evil, but not every villain is meant to be sympathetic. Sometimes they are literally just a narrative device that helps tell the story.

Unlike Justice League where NO ONE cares about the villain, nor could they name him. The villain doesn't care about the League specifically, he's just........there. Like opposition for him to make go away. He and Wonder Woman sort of have a history because her sisters were killed, but also not...? Steppenwolf doesn't matter to the main characters because the main characters don't matter to Steppenwolf. He is a bad villain because NOBODY CARES, OKAY! He could be replaced with a generally evil piece of bread and the narrative would be EXACTLY the same. That is when you have a bad villain. When they are so obviously a plot device that it hurts to see them on screen.

So the reason I'm bringing this up is because this is a concept that all audiences recognize intuitively and they know. They hate non-connected villains and Never assume they can't tell when the villain is connected. They know. You know. Everyone knows, even though this is not something most people can put into words off the top of their head. When an audience in general hates a movie and can't pinpoint WHY, this is usually on that list somewhere: disconnected villain.

Malekith is TDW's Steppenwolf. He does not matter to the story. He could be replaced with an evil piece of bread. He does not matter to Thor and Loki, and Thor and Loki do not matter to him. They are obstacles to bump over. In the released version, Frigga's death wasn't personal to him, Malekith just killed her for the...shock value, I guess? her death felt so random.

THE SCENE:

In this version, Frigga's death was not random, Malekith is given depth in a few short lines of dialog, and gets reattached to the narrative in a way that the original fails to.

MALEKITH: Revenge? Do you truly believe that I care about Asgard? ODIN: Twas my father that put an end to your kind. MALEKITH: Is that what he told you? MALEKITH (referring to Frigga): ... you must ask yourself, as I did once, what are you prepared to sacrifice for what you believe?

Now, instead of canon we have this:

Malekith kills Frigga to punish Odin, not just to punish her for not telling him (which was not the best move, my guy, she is literally the only person with the information you need)

The Dark Elves were NOT killed off by Asgard (so what happened instead???)

Thor watched Odin let Frigga die. In order for him to have come bursting in there the way he did, he has to have heard Malekith tell Kurse to kill Frigga and watched Odin surrender

Frigga begs Odin to kill all of them so that way Asgard will be safe and instead Odin surrenders and she dies anyway. The guilt of this would make Odin's behavior in the rest of the movie make more sense because HE was the one who LET FRIGGA DIE

Malekith doesn't care about revenge on Asgard. This isn't about Asgard.

Malekith doesn't know who Odin is, or Frigga, which means that when Bor fought the war with the Dark Elves, Odin was a young child or not born yet because he wasn't there

Why did Asgard take the Aether? What is the Aether?

What does Malekith believe using the reality stone to turn the universe into eternal night will do? What is he personally sacrificing to achieve that? did he already sacrifice it?

Malekith's story becomes a lot more interesting and his relationship with the main characters gets more depth because of what this does to Odin and Thor. Odin let Frigga die, Thor knows that and it splits their family permanently so Thor goes to Loki for solace because Loki already sees Odin for what he is and now Thor does too. If the rest of the movie was kept the way it was, Malekith's quest for the Aether still wouldn't have made a whole lot of sense, but it would be more interesting. The problem we still face with Malekith is that Thor and Loki don't matter to Malekith. It's gotta be both ways. Villain matters to hero, hero matters to villain otherwise it feels like it's two separate stories co-existing. That's the huge chunk of the plot that we don't have that really makes this movie Meh to most people.

I think this scene adds a lot of depth to Malekith's character and that helps with him a lot, but it still wouldn't fix the major problem with TDW. There's a lot of confusion about what it is that Malekith wants in TDW. What's his goal? What does the Aether do for him personally? Malekith has so many unanswered questions and this scene HINTS at answers, it actually gives you SOMETHING!! This is good!! in the actual cut, Malekith is a bad plot device. This is bad!! He is not interesting. To put this into perspective for you - How many fics have you've read that explore the Dark Elves in more detail or include Malekith in a meaningful way? I've read 0, and only seen like 2? Nobody cares about Malekith or the Dark Elves because TDW never gave you a REASON to care about the Dark Elves. The movie is literally called The Dark World and guess what we do not learn anything about???? The dark world.

Tl;dr: I like this scene a lot more because it adds depth to Malekith's fumbling character and I like the darkness it would have added to the movie. Odin chose to let Frigga die even though Frigga begged him to take them all out and it would have completely destroyed Odin emotionally in a way the original cut fails to. The implications if this had been canon are...not great for their family, but fun to think about. + literally NO ONE would say that Loki killed his mom. Everyone would blame Odin.

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And before I get comments about this - recognizing that the dark world has flaws doesn't mean I hate the movie. There is a reason it didn't land right with most people and while a lot of the criticism wasn't justified and the memefication is irritating, I think that people we SHOULD trust to have the most thoughtful critique of movies/tv are the people who either a) love the source material or b) are fans of the movie. They recognize the passion put into the project and aren't making fun of it to make fun of it, and that helps a lot.

Thor: The Dark World - Deleted Scene, Alternate Frigga Death

Let's talk about this scene. What did Malekith mean by "is that what he told you?" talking about Bor. Is there another truth to the story the previous king told his son?

Why did Odin not fire at them? Gungnir does have the power to kill with one charge. I hated how Frigga KNEW he was going to sacrifice her to protect the Aether. (and still tried to get him to free her :'(

Had he held them up for a few seconds longer, Thor would have had the time to strike properly.

I still wish they would have shot the scene as mentioned in this post.

What do we think? I'd love to hear your guys' opinions on this one if you have any.

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[shambelle97]

GOODBYE, MOTHER - LOKI FAN COMIC (2023)

He deserves to say goodbye. 💚

Art by: raychelwho

[beheworthy]

Thor & Frigga + hugs

I realized she's the only one he's ever shown hugging (:

[vbecker10]

Yours to Hold

Pairing: Loki x female reader (Y/N)

Summary: You are part of the Einherjar, Asgard's standing army, and you have been ordered to stand guard over the king while he endures the Odinsleep. Despite your task being to keep constant watch over the king, your eyes are drawn to Prince Loki as he sits with his father. You feel a desperate pull to comfort the younger prince but you resist all of your urges to reach out and hold him.

A/N: Another fic based on a song I got stuck in my head, I couldn't help it. I know I'm supposed to be doing other stuff but this idea wouldn't go away. I added the song, Yours to Hold, at the bottom. Hope you enjoy this super short little thing that has no fluff and no happy ending, sorry 💚

You stand quietly at attention at the foot of the king's large, fur covered bed. The queen sits to one side of him, her hand holding his tightly as he slips deeper into the Odinsleep. You watch her whisper to him, knowing that although he sleeps, he will remain aware of what transpires around him and throughout the universe.

As a part of the Einherjar, you will remain on guard in the king's chamber until he awakens. It is impossible to predict how long the Odinsleep will last, recharging the Odinforce has been known to take anywhere from one night to six months when prepared properly. This time, however, no one was prepared and the palace has been left in a state of shock.

The tall double doors open, two guards enter and bow deeply to the queen as Prince Loki moves past them into the chambers. Queen Frigga stands quickly, walking towards her son to pull him into a long embrace. The younger prince of Asgard was the only witness to the king's swift decent into the Odinsleep and clearly looks affected by whatever caused it.

Queen Frigga whispers something to her son, who has taken on the temporary responsibility of being the king of Asgard as Prince Thor's banishment has yet to be reversed. He nods solemnly in response and gives her a gently kiss on the cheek before she follows the guards out of the royal bed chambers.

Prince Loki doesn't appear to notice you or the other two guards in the room as he takes a seat where his mother had been for the last two hours. The God of Mischief carefully places one hand on the fur blanket and looks at his father as if he is afraid to touch him. It breaks your heart to see the mixture of emotions in his eyes but there is nothing you can do to offer him the comfort he obviously needs.

I see you sitting here, but you're so far away, you think as you watch him study his father's sleeping face. You're going through so much, I wonder why you look so hurt, so lost, so confused. I wish I could take it all away. I want to be here for you but you're just out of my reach.

I know that I could be the one to hold you, to comfort you, if you could only see me but you don't even know my name, you think as your heart aches.

You will see someday that all along the way I was yours to hold. You should know, I'm ready when you're ready for me. I'm waiting for the right time, for the day I catch your eye, to let you know that I'm yours to hold, you think even though deep down, you know that day will never come.

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[greenwitchcrafts]

Did a little altar refresh with some offerings & it looks so good 🥺

[crimefightingcutie]

Thor and Frigga finding out where Loki is currently after S2 EP6

[reallyunluckyrunaway]

Frigga is a single mother as far as I'm concerned—

[lokijiro]

There’s nothing that stands in the way of Loki and Sigyn getting married. . . except for the fact that Thor is unmarried, and Odin and Frigga agree that Loki should not get married before his elder brother does.

So Loki schemes to put Sif in Thor’s bed.

[worstloki]

AU where Loki doesn’t interfere with Thor’s banishment at all and it takes Thor years to prove himself worthy and when he returns to Asgard everything is just. The same. Nothing seems to have changed at all and everyone greets him like his absence was a minor obstacle that didn’t fundamentally change Thor and the worst part is Loki stepped down from the place as regent without any delay and Thor can’t help but feel there’s something underlaying the way his brother looks at him now and won’t let him touch him and Thor doesn’t know what he could have missed because he doesn’t think he would have found anything wrong with the things around him and how everyone behaves if he hadn’t spent time on Earth reflecting.

[abby118]

I guess everybody's got a favourite parent

[velvet4510]

The implications of Rio Vidal/Death’s introduction to the MCU are enormous.

Now we know in retrospect that every single MCU character who has ever died was escorted onward by her.

So it’s not just Nicky, Sharon, Alice, and Lilia.

Abraham Erskine, Meredith Quill, Ho Yinsen, Phil Coulson, Frigga, Pietro Maximoff, Peggy Carter, T’Chaka, Odin, Hela, Erik Killmonger, Heimdall, OG!Loki, OG!Gamora, Thanos, Natasha Romanoff, Tony Stark, Aunt May, Jane Foster, T’Challa, Ramonda, Maria Hill … all of them saw her when their time came.

And it makes sense that Marc Spector & Steven Grant never saw her, because it was not their time yet and she knew they’d be sent back.

[tyrannuspitch]

you know what. the fact that odin has to go into the odinsleep (effectively a coma in which he - and all of asgard - is incredibly vulnerable) at regular internals all throughout thor and loki's childhood is a really underappreciated bit of backstory!

like... thor and loki have effectively grown up with a chronically (well. episodically, but consistently) ill parent. that's going to have a profound effect on them. it's not something i've experienced myself, so i'm just guessing, really, but some thoughts on what those effects might be...?

a sense of extreme instability in their attachment to odin, especially when they're very young. no wonder they both have abandonment issues!

before they're old enough to understand, they're going to experience it as: father is here but he is refusing to engage with us, and no-one is sure when he will again. have i done something wrong? am i just not important enough? this might be exacerbated by people trying to tell them that it's "meant to happen", "for a higher purpose", "under control", etc.

once they ARE old enough to understand, they will naturally see it as very dangerous and frightening. their father is the universe's miraculous, invulnerable protector... until he isn't. what if it comes on unexpectedly, somewhere dangerous, somewhere no-one can find him? what if a war breaks out? what if he never wakes up?

the odinsleep is linked to odin's powers and odin's responsibilities to the kingdom. he exerts himself until he falls into a coma. For Them. it's a kind of martyrdom, and it must induce a lot of survivor's guilt in his family.

there's a lot of cognitive dissonance around vulnerability, especially odin's vulnerability. the royal family must always present a strong and united front to the world, and questioning or undermining odin, even in private, can have severe repercussions. and yet odin regularly enters health crises that they can't not respond to. yet more unprocessed and uncommunicated emotions in the house of odin.

the odinsleep seems to be the brink of death, so in a way, odin dies over and over - and his family brace themselves for grief over and over. it must make it harder to admit any flaw in him, much less the vast extent of his abuse, when they're constantly reminded of what the loss would be like.

but at the same time... there might be some peace in his absence. relief at the withdrawal of a tyrant. which will only cause further guilt and anxiety in them all, and maybe lead to them policing each other harder to compensate...

every time odin goes into the odinsleep, someone else has to rule. at first, this will be frigga - which means, when they were young, thor and loki would lose most of their contact with both parents at regular intervals. which might contribute to their closeness with each other, as the only stable connection. and later on, it would probably mean thor had to be regent (to the realm at its most vulnerable!) - so he would lose a parent figure and very suddenly have to grow up (and possibly leave loki behind)...

it's not 100% clear... but it seems likely that the odinsleep is something the next king will eventually inherit. thor's future promises untold power and untold sacrifice, and always has. a king is powerful, and a king is exposed. this complicates thor and loki's power struggle in a really interesting way! it's not just: let me be in charge. it's also: let me take the danger, i know how to handle it better than you...

hmmm. there is probably much more to be said here but these are. some initial thoughts

[beheworthy]

Frigga's death in Thor: The Dark World (2013) // Jane's death in Thor: Love and Thunder (2022)

(requested by anonymous)

[tallseaweed]

Buddy Request: are you a Loki obsessed high fantasy lover?

I would really like to connect with fellow Loki fans who want to rant about/analyze Loki and Thor's psychology, family dynamics, Asgardian society, Jotunheim, magic/seiðr, and the Nine Realms. Ideas/thoughts that aren't canon-compliant with the MCU are more than welcome!

Here are some fics with these types of themes that I have thoroughly enjoyed and been inspired by:

Ásgarðrian Galdr by Valerie_Vancollie

Bargaining by proantagonist ( @proantagonista ) [thank you SO MUCH for the rec @alwida10!]

Frostbite by Maiden_of_Asgard

Once More With Empathy by Kairyn ( @bfaymiller )

A Fairytale Beginning by the_lady_amphitrite ( @the-lady-amphitrite )

Let me set the scene:

For the past year and a half, I've been working on developing a longfic featuring a Thor 2011 Loki and an OC Sigyn. Honestly, I don't think that I'll get around to posting it anytime soon (there's still so much work to be done on it), but it's constantly on my mind. It's sort of a hybrid concept of the MCU, Norse Mythology, my own ideas, OCs, and magic systems. It has an epic scope with multiple arcs and characters from most of the Nine Realms. Do you like characters with wings? I got you covered. An imminent threat to the Nine Realms? Check. An in-depth analysis of Ásgarðr and Jǫtunheimr's history uncovered during Loki's identity crisis? A Jǫtunn OC? A Laufey that never wanted to lose his child? Check, check, and check.

I've found it hard to talk to people about all this because it involves a LOT of worldbuilding. Epic fantasy definitely isn't for everyone and this will not be a "light" read. Some non-fanfic stories that have inspired me along the way include the Roots of Chaos series by Samantha Shannon (The Priory of the Orange Tree and A Day of Fallen Night) and Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkien. So if you like those types of stories, you might like the ideas I come up with.

If you relate to anything I've said, I also want to mention that I would love to hear about your ideas as well! If you feel trapped inside your own head and feel hesitant to "info-dump" on people, I am the person for you. And hey, maybe we can inspire each other :) Fanfiction is not about gatekeeping, and I have been unabashedly inspired by so many different takes on Loki that I've read along the way.

Sending this out into the Tumblr void, hoping it finds the right people!