#nothing to say for riku

[starrivdraws]

[aurorangen]

The first baking session with Mrs Kobayashi and some wise words were told about the journey of baking. Riku also came over for a surprise visit and he got the chance to try Suzume's first bakes!

[thefreshprinceofjunes]

reading about kh3 gameplay mechanics on the khwiki (cuz i didnt do shit fuck with 99% of them when i played it) and like

the shotlock for oblivion is called ‘dawn eclipse’ in japanese, while oathkeepers is ‘sunset bright’

and i realized

kairi is associated with sunsets, which in kh (and in real life) are symbolic of endings

while riku is associated with dawn/sunrises, which are symbolic of new beginnings

also, dawn eclipse? like the dawn being eclipsed by something?

and sunset meaning the loss of (day)light, while sunrise means the return?

[dizzybevvie]

"Kingdom Hearts is so complicated" "Nomura made it up as he went along" "KH makes no sense" Have you considered that Riku is 15 and autistic and gay bc if you do I think itll change things

[roxasboxas]

HELP I’m thinking about Komory Bat as representative of Sora again. And Meow Wow as representative of Riku.

Riku dreams of Sora we know he dreams of Sora that’s instrumental in ReMind listen to me his first dream eater represents Sora. Komory Bat is shaking hands with Sora’s Halloweentown vampire form except it doesn’t have any. You know what I mean.

And Meow Wow!! If Sora is represented by Riku’s first dream eater so the reverse must be true. Basic math. Anyways Meow Wow is literally shaped to be hugged it is Riku’s love. Meow Wow is Riku’s love for Sora it is with him from the very beginning

Narratively Sora and Riku are separated in DDD but symbolically they are together listen to me I’m gonna bite something do you understand my vision

[robotsafari]

i know riku was pointing at sora’s heart in that one kh2 scene because wordless storytelling is a virtue (and unfortunately becomes straight up nonexistent in modern kh) and like the audience already knows, they dont need to spell it out and its also just a very riku thing to do but…..

can i say something. it’s probably not canon at all but i always found it strange how riku-ansem’s voice went back to riku after the reveal that it was riku. it feels strange, like could he always do this? switch his voices back?

the way riku stays silent most of the time feels like he doesn’t even want to hear ansem’s voice come out of him. but the pointing part with sora (and many other scenes) feels like he only speaks when he finds it necessary, which doesnt feel necessary now that his voice is back to normal, because thats what we hear, and that should be true.. unless you think of it this way:

headcanon: riku’s voice coming out of riku-ansem can only be heard by sora and kairi (and by extension, the audience) after feeling his heart’s connection. (the thing where they closed their eyes and felt his heart)

i like to think that to anyone else he still sounds like ansem, including.. to riku himself. so he does the same as before, because to him, nothing has changed. he feels that hes still not himself, even after his friends know that its him now.

[nebuvoid]

Oh also you know how Sora says something to Kairi at the end of KH3 and it drives me up the wall not knowing what it is? He actually pulls the same shit at the end of KH1 too while Destiny Islands rebuilds around Kairi. Speak UP boy I can't HEAR you!!!!

[cinnabeat]

rememebred everyones kh3 outfits and now im annoyed again

[princekirijo]

*squints* hey is that new riku art as your pfp

.... Maybe 😳

[bluerosesburnblue]

I did say I thought it was *in part* related to the rampant misogyny of early '00s fandoms. It's definitely not the sole cause. Honestly I think trying to find a singular cause that's primarily or exclusively responsible for it is impossible because I assume it's really a whole bunch of factors interacting with each other that cause it. (that said, I imagine aku/roku dropped off a lot because nowadays... People get REALLY touchy about it being illegal due to character ages and whatnot)

Yes, but like I said, it doesn't explain why that same thing happens in other fandoms, particularly new ones. And I had discussed those other fandoms previously during this very conversation so it's not like I brought them up again out of nowhere. The fact that I can see the same thing happen in fandoms that are less than five, or even three years old suggest that it has little to do with early 2000s misogyny, if at all. Unless there's significant overlap in the people in those fandoms, which can't be verified in a lot of instances, then I don't find it worth tossing around as anything more than a tangential "it's possible this might have done something," which I don't find helpful

Don't misunderstand what I said. I didn't say that you thought that was the only explanation, I said that I, specifically, didn't intend to commit to a specific explanation. I didn't say that your read was invalid (other than the idea that people grew out of it rather than taking the attitude elsewhere), I listed a lot of alternate factors that probably had a lot more of an effect than the one you brought up and related what you said to other fandoms that I had previously brought up as relevant and how it didn't apply to them, but another explanation brought up previously might and therefore probably had more weight. That doesn't mean that your take was wrong, just that it wasn't the most relevant in the discussion. I think where the disconnect is happening is that you're speaking from a strictly KH-fandom standpoint, where your take is most relevant, and I'm speaking from a wider fandom culture standpoint that, yes, focuses on KH but I'm looking for unifying factors between several fandoms to explain why I can't escape the Riku obsession even outside of the KH fandom, which was... most of the point of my original response to my friend?

Because, again, my very first example was in a fandom without main female characters that's three years old (at best, even. It's only been available in English for one year). It shouldn't have anything to do with those attitudes, unless it was brought over from another fandom. But who's to say that they came from the KH fandom to Twisted Wonderland and it didn't happen the other way around? Or that the person making the comparisons in question didn't enter the KH fandom well after the yaoi heyday? Or was even old enough to be a part of it? You bringing up 2000s-era misogyny means almost nothing in that context, which was the original content of my response to another post. Is it any surprise that I didn't see it as my main focus?

So, yes, you may be correct that it has some part in the Riku obsession, but that part is so small that it's hardly worth mentioning, and it had almost nothing to do with my examples in the original discussion. Especially since that discussion ultimately led into talking about how Riku's popularity overshadows Sora, not Kairi.

[dreamsy990]

There were so many weird ships and crazy stuff in the old kh fandom and the fact it was mostly everywhere back then it was crazy like can we have nice things? :/

i have no comments on the old kh fandom because im really only just now engaging with it. but it seems like a rough time to be around for. i salute you kh fandom veterans o7

[system-of-a-feather]

Apparently XIV and my fiance are conspiring to change my alter name to "V" just because XIV kins Johnny Silverhand and is technically Nero and in both cases the character XIV assigns me in relation is somehow a character named "V" in both cases and I'm just like

[thefreshprinceofjunes]

keyblade masters + being too gay for this

[death-rebirth-senshi]

Playing kingdom hearts 1 again makes a part of me sympathetic to the concept of Nomura being stuck in kiddy disney game land for all these years, but there's also another part of me that's like. Well no one put a gun to your head and made some of this shit as stupid as it is.

[robotsafari]

i also watched the riku and terra limit cut scene and BOOOO THATS WAS SO NOTHINGBURGER AUUUGHH

[sirathurheit]

Exactly! Like, my main issue with Soriku as a ship is that it's fans and the content they produce, 60% of the time, at least, treats Sora a lot like certain female characters in cishet ships, ignoring his side of the story, diminishing his importance and contributions and propping him up mainly as a pretty prize to be won or a motivation.

You know, nothing quite captures my time as a member of the KH fandom better than the fact that I just put on the search bar the words "Sora is the best kh character" in hopes of finding some meta or something about my favorite character, and instead the few top posts are either about how cool Riku is, how Kairi sucks and how canon soriku is.