#not just in this movie but the entire wolverine franchise
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brainrotcharacters · 5 months ago
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Wade can, in fact,
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banneriscarried · 6 months ago
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That’s genuinely a true assessment
It would honestly be less gay if Deadpool and Wolverine actually had sex in full view on screen than whatever the fuck they were actually doing in that movie and everybody knows it
my deadpool and wolverine review: you could have replaced 90% of the fight scenes with gay sex and nothing of the plot or tone would have changed, the only thing stopping them is marvel's cowardice
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twilightkitkat · 3 months ago
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Thinking about the role of the "love interest" in superhero media and how poolverine subverts this.
The "love interest" in most movies is just a placeholder. Boring. Tame, Predictable.
This is especially true in action media, wherein romance takes a backseat and is often seen as an add-on rather than a main plot point. Romance is either a source of conflict or motivation that serves to drive a character arc forward, but no more or less.
Take, for example, Vanessa. I love her character. Her personality and character are fascinating. However, especially in Deadpool 2 and 3, she serves more as a device to move the plot forward rather than a genuine character. The first movie established her character and importance, so it's understandable why Wade chose to hide his identity and how he slowly came to terms with his new identity. She helped move his character arc of self-acceptance forward, yes, but she also existed as her own entity.
In the movies after this, she isn't treated with the same care. She's used as a central motivation in Deadpool 2, a force that drives Wade to save Russel and confront Cable when his character motivations aren't easily tied to morals. However, that's it. She isn't fighting alongside him or given the same treatment as the other important "family" characters. In Deadpool 3, she's treated with even less care, only having short scenes at the beginning and end of the movie to give Wade a representation of "home."
This isn't to say Vanessa isn't an important character and shouldn't be treated as such. However, the purpose of having a "love interest" in an action movie's plot isn't just to have someone to love. It's almost always to have someone who can be kidnapped or killed to spring the main character into action. It's someone who fades to the sidelines so the main character can show off while showcasing their relationship success.
Consider this: in all of the Marvel comic universes, Deadpool and Wolverine have had many different partners. Different names, different faces. It's common for the "love interest" of a superhero to be seen as an accessory that changes shape depending on the comic artist or franchise. After all, they don't need a cohesive identity to serve their purpose as a "general, digestible reason for the main character to act."
Everyone understands how love can cause people to do crazy things. There is no further elaboration needed, even for morally grey or black characters. It's an easy way to make an understandable motive for the audience. Suspension of disbelief.
And yet, the superheroes remain the same. They get to keep their identity throughout different media. It's always Wolverine and Deadpool. Logan and Wade. Even if they have slightly different plotlines, their core characteristics and intrinsic identity are constant.
Logan could have Jean Gray. Or Mariko. Or Silver Fox. He can have anyone play the role of "love interest," a role that can be shapen by a ball of clay and changed entirely to fit the narrative.
But his "rival" and "best friend" in the multiverse will always be Deadpool. They're notorious for being referenced in each other's media. For fighting. For working together. They are A Set.
This is why I'm so much more drawn to Poolverine than other ships. Wade has different love interests depending on the media type. So does Logan. I can't tie in knowledge from different interpretations into the romance because the love interests are fluid. But with each other, they interact in almost every universe. Have a consistent bond. A "standard." They're soulmates, in a way, forever destined to meet and be important to each other.
This is setting aside how female love interests are treated in male-oriented media in general. They're normally seen as someone to be protected, to stay at home, and welcome back the hero when they return. Some are allowed to be strong, to have abilities, but rarely ever do they stand on equal footing with the male main character. Not where it matters.
This is exhibited in both Wolverine and Deadpool's movies. Vanessa is introduced as a "badass," someone who's part of the underworld and knows how to fight, yet she's often placed in the damsel in distress position. She could match Wade before his mutation, maybe, but after he dons the mask and becomes Deadpool, his work is over her pay grade. The same happens with Mariko in the Wolverine movie: she's initially introduced as someone who can fight, but Logan ends up protecting her almost entirely and is responsible for rescuing her from her kidnapping at the end.
It creates an emotional rift between the side of the "hero" and the side of the "love interest," because it feels like they aren't fighting together for the same cause. It feels like the love interest is treated more as a "reward" for the hero to come back to after saving the world rather than a person.
When the entire movie follows the perspective of the main character as they fight, and action scenes are primarily used to invoke emotion, it feels lackluster to have the love interest stay at home. The most intense moments of emotional connection are typically portrayed between the hero and someone else who understands their suffering who they're trying to reach, such as a villain or rival or friend.
Love interests are never on the same "playing field" as the main character and thus can't relate to their struggle. The director tells the audience that they should be happy or sad when a love interest is on screen, but they don't show the same level of emotional depth when the main point of an action movie is action. The entire premise of the main character is action, and yet the love interest is absent from it. Or a victim rather than a player.
This is why Poolverine subverts this trope. You have two people, each with their own franchise and life. Each with their own skills. Each with similarly powerful abilities.
They are equals and are treated as such by the narrative. They take each other seriously and have an emotional connection because they understand each other's suffering. They both are out on the battlefield, fighting the same war and overcoming their differences. They both are allowed to have "cool" scenes and "sad" scenes and "funny" scenes. They both are given the spotlight to experience character growth and have their own unique internal conflict because they both are strong characters who are narratively important.
They both have chemistry. Which is nearly impossible to attain when the love interest isn't even in the lab.
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el-warverine · 3 months ago
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I need to say this somewhere
I think Ryan Reynolds is fucking right to be trying to get Oscar nominations. I know alot of people think DP3 is too goofy and not substantial enough of a film to earn one, and that the odds arent in his favor because Superhero flicks never get any love at the Oscars, but fuck off man the Oscars are a joke.
Ryan and Hugh are fantastic actors. They did a great job. But aside from just the literal performances, for me, they are the true embodiment of all the good shit an actor should be. To be passionate and dedicated to a role, to have fun and make a movie an experience. They delivered the heart of the movies through Deadpool and Wolverine.
The earnings dont lie. The film clearly enraptured a lot of people. It's one of the few movies that i know for a fact that MOST people saw more than once at the theatre.
The sheer effort and tenacity it took for Ryan to kickstart a Deadpool franchise and keep it going to this point, as well as the dedication it took for Hugh to get into shape like that at his age and deliver that performance is easily worth at the very least a nomination. Ryan and Hugh's careers have been so meaningful and examplary for what we love about the concept of an actor to anyone thats followed the Deadpool and Xmen movies.
Certifiably terrible movies have gotten nominations, films that were clearly basic run of the mill fodder. Next time you hear someone say something like "Well DP3 was good, but it's not Oscar good." Remember that these trash heaps got nominations:
Norbit (Best Makeup...yknow for like the fat suit i think idek be so fr rn)
The Blind Side (Best Picture, Best Actress(sandra bullock WON 💀)
Dr. Dolittle (Best Picture + 8 more. Movie was fine, but Fox went to BAT for this one for some reason it didnt deserve all that)
War Horse (Best Picture, Best Cinematography) (this one was like, fine too but...idk who fuckin cares)
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Best Sound Mixing) (entire movie sounded like glass in a blender wdym)
Escape from Tomorrow (WON 6 Oscars and was just about some schmuck being horny at Disneyland)
Im not even gonna mention the animated films, because MY GOD (ok i'll mention two, The Boss Baby and Sharktale)
The Oscars are decided by out of touch numbnut losers, but goddamnit are they one hell of a notch in your belt. If Ryan gets nominations and wins even one award, he might get more free reign, and that's what I want. I want that man as free and unhinged as possible for as long as possible because he is good at it goddamnit. Every comic book/superhero film fan should be rooting for Ryan to succeed so we can get more passion in these movies and less formulaic BS from execs.
Dont be fooled into putting more stock in the illusion of high standards these old farts want to give off than in the genuine dedication of a man and his passion projects.
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avelera · 3 months ago
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I know it's been a while since it came out but when thing I really appreciated about Deadpool & Wolverine is that it and the rest of the Deadpool franchise really understood what fans want in a way that MCU movies have otherwise failed to grasp for a rather bafflingly long period of time which is this:
Happy Endings.
That might sound silly or childish (I can hear Deadpool's snort at the rude definition of happy endings in my ear even as I write this) but seriously, when was the last time a Marvel movie or show just gave us an unequivocal happy ending without any ambiguity?
For so long, Marvel has been feeling the need to provide some sort of hook, to set up that "not all is well" in order to keep people coming back for the next film.
But the thing is, I watched Deadpool 1, and Deadpool 2, and I came back for Deadpool & Wolverine even though technically all three ended with a happy ending. All three ended with the hero getting what they wanted, and the age-old reassertion of domesticity that is considered so cliche in so many happy endings (ie, everyone went home with their heterosexual partner and lived happily ever after in their white picket fence after the adventure was over).
What I actually loved, nay, even adored about Deadpool 2 was that it took the time to (spoilers) bring Vanessa back to life. It was in the credits, sure. But Wade/Vanessa is hands down my favorite het ship in the entire extended Marvel universe because they actually feel like they're in love, not just that they're falling in love or might have the chance to be in love someday (like Steve/Peggy) but that they actually have been in a long term relationship and they don't just love but actually like each other too, and they have what it takes to go the distance or, continue to be friends if they part ways as lovers. Like. MCU is so bad at het romance you guys, it's insane, but Wade/Vanessa actually feel like a real loving couple so even if I ship him with Logan too, I love how Wade/Vanessa was handled. I still get choked up about the whole Calendar Girl sequence and I was devastated in the second movie when she died.
And that's why it's so important to me that they brought her back. They didn't just leave it on "the girlfriend got fridged and while the hero still mourns her, he has grown stronger through the trials he suffered in the aftermath, etc etc." No, they understood she's a beloved character too, and it's a fantasy movie, and part of the fantasy is, yes, in the credits using the awesome magical powers at our disposal, we took an extra 10 seconds to make sure you know, as a fan, that everyone was ok in the end. Everyone got to live happily ever after, we brought back people who died, everything got to be ok.
The MCU hasn't done that in ages! WandaVision ends with Wanda losing everything, it's beautiful and devastating but it's also gut-wrenching and unsatisfying, especially after Multiverse of Madness. Winter Soldier ends with saving the world, sure, but the hero doesn't get everything back because we need to hook into the next movie, so Bucky needs to still be on the run and not reunited with Steve. Even Endgame, the end of the whole damn arc, ends with beloved characters (at least at the point of writing this) being dead and staying dead even though we have literal universe altering time magic at our disposal to, theoretically, bring them back and let everyone end on a happy note where they got everything they wanted.
Look, I get it, an all-around happy ending where everything is nicely tied up and everyone is alive and got their loved ones back can feel a bit childish. But throughout the MCU it has felt just so relentlessly withholding that no one gets this unequivocal, unambiguous happy ending in ages. It's like in their rush to hook you to the next movie, they completely forgot that part of the reward for the audience in watching these heroes go on these adventures is the hero getting what they want in the end, and not just getting strung along to the next adventure.
Deadpool understands that. Heck, it understands that you can give the all-around happy ending and still have problems that emerge down the line. Deadpool 2 ends happily but Wade still has problems that emerge in Deadpool & Wolverine, part of them are the outcomes of getting what he wanted that had unexpected consequences but don't diminish getting what he wanted after Deadpool 2. He wanted the white picket fence happy ending, sure, but as a result his life got dissatisfying and his relationship fell apart in a completely normal, human way. That doesn't actually diminish Deadpool 2 and saving Vanessa, btw, because bringing her back to life means life will go on and sometimes life just happens that way. Bringing her back means she has the chance to go on living and sometimes that means making decisions that aren't all about Wade. That's a good thing.
And likewise, Deadpool & Wolverine might get another sequel. I'm actually fine if it does! I'm fine if another villain just pops out of nowhere to interrupt their peace and quiet.
But here's the thing it will be interrupting their hard-won happy ending. They got the happy ending. We got to see Deadpool save his world of 9 people and add Worst Universe Logan to it. We got to see Logan from the Worst Universe find a loving family, even if he didn't get the original one back. We got to see everyone in peace and at rest having got what they wanted and what they needed. We got to see characters we love be happy.
Deadpool as a franchise understands that. It understands that we love these characters and, at some point, we want to see them happy after their trials and tribulations are over. I wish the MCU would remember that more often in its other stories, that not everything needs to end on a hook. Sometimes it can end with happily ever after and that still doesn't mean the story is over forever. Maybe it's just for now, but whether or not the story continues, Deadpool understood we on some level want to see our beloved characters left behind in a good place.
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clueless-fan-critic · 4 months ago
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Deadpool and Wolverine: The Prequel to the Mutant Saga
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Here's How the X-Men Could Be Part of the MCU
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If you're catching up on comics, the X-Men recently are experiencing one of the worst events in their history as mutants in comic book event Fall of X. Long story short, the "mutants being hated" status quo is in play and pulling the entire Marvel Comics Universe into it. With recent success of Fox's most successful leading mutants in the MCU, the audience is now asking the question... What will this mean for Mutants? In this theory article, I'll explore possible directions that the MCU may take with its cast of incalculable mutants.
X-Men Vs X-Men
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What I noticed in X-Men media is that it's basically mutants against mutants. I mean, unless you singularly focus on one goal like the Krakoan Era, there's a chance that a mutant will either defect to another team, fight over leadership, or straight up leave because their feelings were hurt. Seriously, the Umbrella Academy can stay more cohesive than the X-men and those guys are a dysfunctional family. Even with legit reasons for leaving or defecting, it just gets tiresome by the fact they'll probably come back with no hard feelings.
My idea for this issue is that the people will only see the X-Men as the problem rather than mutants themselves. Think of a larger scale Civil War scenario with neutral mutants, like civilians, in the conflict getting hurt because of the X-Men's actions. This can also add themes of security or freedom, profiling, and the abuse of power by the government.
Speaking of themes, let us move on to the overall idea that mutants are always associated with. The exact reasons that were explored in a show with a recent mutant in the MCU.
X-Men and Proud
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What might be addressed in the MCU is the prejudice and bigotry of mutants compared to people of color, the LGBTQ+ community, and so on. I know that mutants are allegories for minorities, but that's the point. They're allegories. The one thing that I want discussed is whether the hatred is earned by mutants. Because think about it, mutants are called Homo Superiors and considered the next step in human evolution. Those ideas can seriously give you an ego and be generally disliked because of it. They also manifest crazy dangerous superpowers as teenagers, like if Hulk and Thor were emotionally unhinged boys who trashed a city over a taco. That's a more definite reason for people's hatred: constant destruction with no accountability or responsibility. But now we're getting the idea of mutants as a whole being treated as minorities and I feel that wouldn't exactly fit as well if the MCU introduced clearer examples of prejudice and culture.
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Another example is the confusion of prejudice for mutants being the same as other kinds like racism and xenophobia. For example, basically Emma Frost, a blonde white mutant, is less likely to experience the same struggles as a black woman or an immigrant from another country. A discussion between her and Kamala Khan, aka Ms. Marvel, really exploring what it means to be an outsider and struggling to be accepted would combine both real-world and mutant issues.
But with the Mutant Saga coming, are we going to follow a new cast of X-Men or reintroduce old ones from the past?
The Old and the New
One advantage of the Multiverse is reintroducing old actors from previous Fox X-Men properties into the MCU. You could have The Gifted's Emma Dumont aka Polaris or Legion's Dan Stevens aka Legion. If you bring back characters as cameos, why not use them as much as possible to really build the MCU Multiverse. This would also give some closure to cancelled shows or movie franchises and maybe those characters to the MCU.
False Hope or Idea Generation?
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Now, whether these ideas get any light in the upcoming Mutant Saga or just get shoved randomly into projects for no rhyme or reason, I have no clue. I guess it's good to have that kind of expectation with recent X-Men projects like X-Men 97, but I'm not holding my breath.
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xaeyrnofnbe · 4 months ago
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question for people who liked the deadpool and wolverine movie
ok so i've disliked just about every mcu thing since endgame, and i was a diehard mcu fan up until that point. every single project since then has been unbelievably disappointing, like i'm serious i've been excited for and then disappointed by these movies/shows over and over and over, again and again. so i've pretty much entirely given up on the franchise
THAT BEING SAID, i do really love a lot of closely-related, mcu-adjacent projects (venom movies, anything spider-man,) and deadpool in particular i watched recently, one and two, and i really enjoyed them, and got real eager to see the third one
until i saw it was explicitly an mcu movie, which concerned me greatly. and by now i've learned that a good audience reaction and a solid tumblr fandom does NOT make for a movie that doesn't disappoint, as i've learned multiple times over.
so basically what i'm asking is
(elaborations in the tags as to why would also be helpful)
i want to see it but i'm scared it will be bad
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tatteredtoby · 5 months ago
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guys this maybe will be ooc but like wade/deadpool and Logan/Wolverine with reader who’s obsessed with the trolls franchise..(targeted at me!!)
“…I swear if we walk in here and hear the weird ass noodles dancing and singing I will bend [y/n] into a Mount rageon.”
*que Mount Rageous playing*
“God damnit.”
Both end up with the songs stuck in their heads. Wades singing them all the time. he watched the movie because he heard about the boy band in it. (Totally not because of how you got all excited the entire movie)
Logan is kinda indifferent. He’ll bob his head to the soundtrack when you play it. Not like wade. When he hears it he just bursts into dance. He dgaf.
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cosmosrebellion · 9 months ago
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So because of my currently fixation on Wolverine and the way my brain loves to think up crossovers, I'm imagining how to translate Wolverine into the RWBY universe.
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It wouldn't be hard. One of the best aspects of Logan as character is his versatility. You can throw him into any story and it works.
His background: Weapon X is an Atlesian project designed to create super-soldiers to fight against Salem. Logan was kidnapped by them, had his skeleton laced with metal through a horrible process that he only survived thanks to his regeneration semblance, they armed with him retractable claws and scrambled his brain to keep him under control. And I really like the idea of Merlot being a member of Weapon X in his youth, maybe that's where he got his obsession of with controlling savagery.
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How would he meet Team RWBY: Here's where it gets fun because there's a lot of options. Maybe Merlot wants revenges, remembers the projects of his youth and that Weapon X was kept in storage, so he awakens Logan and other assassins to fight Team RWBY, so we have him as an antagonist with a possible redemption after he is beaten.
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Maybe he is a dark card up Ozpin's sleeve, someone looking for redemption after his years as Weapon X and who Oz sends on truly violent mission that need dirty deeds to be done. Stuff he doesn't want to give it to Qrow for fear of worsening his mental state, but that Logan accepts because he figures it's the only thing he's good for, only now he's doing it for the right cause.
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Or maybe he is a broken old man way past his prime who fought Ozpin's war for too long and now just doesn't give a shit anymore. But when a kid inspires to entire world to band together and fight, he decides that it might be worth it to spend his last years fighting so the next generation can have the peace he wasn't afforded.
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And honestly, those are just off the top of my head. But I know RWBY fans. Most of you wouldn't care about a short, smelly, angry old man so how do I make you interested? Well bringing in Logan would also mean bringing in his children with whom he has a very complicated relationship. Laura Kinney, Akihiro and Gabby Kinney. They're all super-awesome, super-gay, and some even think cooler than their old man.
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Two more notes.
-I'd have all the Wolverines be Faunus. They're about as good a metaphor for prejudice as the mutants, so I think it work to combine some of the themes of both franchises, flawed as they are.
-I'd wouldn't bring in the X-Men, though. To keep things focus I want only want Logan, his kids and the characters related to Weapon X.
This is a silly idea that's been ping ponging around my brain. So I just want it to throw it out there. And I mean, there are two movies were Team RWBY teams up with the Justice League, is this really that much weirder?
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gen13ordinaryheroes · 2 months ago
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Hi !!! Regarding that recently popular post of yours about female characters always existing to indulge the male protagonist or to get involved in something romantic I COULDN'T AGREE MORE , I don't know if it's bc I'm aromantic but I'm just so tired of getting into a movie, book, series with well written female characters only for the writers to give them some sort of romance that most of the times serves as a weakness , or is there to show that she is indeed human guys look she isn't a bitch who only cares about her work /purpose etc. Like give me a fucking break , women can have other flaws and weaknesses it doesn't always have to be a romance thing . It's almost like female characters can only make mistakes or act flawed only when it comes to romance otherwise they are annoying and problematic. There are so many media comics, books , anime, cartoons with male protagonists that never got them romantically involved and yet they are considered complex and fleshed out characters. GIVE ME FEMALE CHARACTERS LIKE THAT please 🙏. Sorry for my yapping , could you please recommend me some of your favorite media with female protagonists that dont focus on romance . I'll take anything, I'm desperate 😮‍💨
List compiled from checking my back-issues and polling multiple discord servers. Extremely comics-heavy because this is a comics blog.
(*) indicates that I have not personally read/watched/played/etc whatever is listed, so I can't personally vouch for it.
Also, due to the fact that I am not personally familiar with everything listed, I can't provide relevant content warnings. Some of these are significantly heavier than others. Some of these are parts of larger franchises that may not make since without background knowledge.
Comics/Graphic Novels:
Amethyst: Princess of Gemworld (1983), (1985), 1986 one-shot, Amethyst (1987).*
Batgirl (2000)
Batgirl (2009)* (these get separate entries because they're about different characters)
Birds of Prey (1999)* and (2010)*-- some romance, but it's not the focus
"Most Black Widow runs"*
Botticelli's Apprentice by Ursula Murray Husted*
Champions (2018) -- ensemble cast with multiple female characters. Some romantic plots, but not the focus.
Dark Spaces: Good Deeds (2023)
DIE (2018) -- ensemble cast with transfem/genderfluid lead. She is married, but her wife exists mostly off-screen, and romance isn't a major plotpoint.
Exiles (2018) -- team book with female lead, I don't think there's any romance, though characters may reference past romantic entanglements
Gotham Academy (2014)*
Harrow County (2015) -- I don't think there's any romance with the main character
Hawkgirl (2023)*
Huntress (1989) -- some light romance, but it's not the focus.
Lumberjanes* -- there is some romance between the leads, apparently, but the main focus is friendship.
Manhunter (2004)*
Patsy Walker, AKA Hellcat! (2015)*
Powergirl (1988) and (2009)*
Radiant Red (2022)* -- main character has a fiance but I am told this is not a major aspect
Scarlet Witch (2015)
Something is Killing the Children (2019-ongoing)
Unbeatable Squirrel Girl (2015), (2015-2017) -- this does feature some light romance, to memory, but I don't think it's central
Unstoppable Wasp (2017), (2018-2019)* (aspec main character and aspec writer)
Wonder Woman: the Hiketeia
Wonder Woman: Historia
World's Finest (2012)
X-23 (2010), All-New Wolverine (2015), and X-23 (2018)
X-Men (2013) -- almost entirely female cast, no romance
Gwenpool, the character-- I know some of her earlier stuff is rather romance-centered, or at least includes romantic plots, but more recently the character is explicitly aroace, so you might be interested.
Anime/Manga:
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure part 6: Stone Ocean* (some romance, but not the main focus)
Magical Girl Dandelion*
Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
"Any Ghibli movie with a female protagonist", Spirited Away*
Witch Hat Atelier
Movies/TV:
Alien
The Descent*
Derry Girls*
Evil Dead (2013)*, and Evil Dead Rise*
Hellraiser*
Video Games (blanket statement: I do not play video games. I am not personally familiar with any of these.)
BloodRayne
Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia
Fatal Fame franchise
Resident Evil 2, 3, Resident Evil 8 DLC: Shadows of Rose, Resident Evil: Revelations 1 & 2, Resident Evil: Code Veronica
Silent Hill 3
Books
Wayfarers series* by Becky Chambers, especially A Closed and Common Orbit, which has 2 female protagonists and 0 romance. Can be read as standalone.
Tamora Pierce's body of work*-- the amount of romance may vary book-to-book.
I hope this is helpful to some extent or another :) -- others are welcome to add their own recommendations in reblogs/comments.
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crascet · 6 months ago
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Final X-Men Movie Tier List Update- Deadpool & Wolverine (Non-Spoiler)
Now finally back from D&W and it was a great movie! I loved the fight scenes with the first fight between Wade and Logan and the last fight being standouts. Logan and Wade are just great together here and how they develop their friendship is the best part. Cassandra Nova is gleefully sadistic here and a great performance put there.
I can't really go too much since that will go into spoilers, but there are surprises here that made me happy. However, I will say that my last post was strangely fitting here since the main message of the movie is preserving legacies, even if they aren't well liked as they are now.
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And that's that, all the X-Men movie from Fox and now including D&W, so now all that's left is...
THE FINAL RANKING (in my opinion)
#14. X-Men: The Last Stand- A movie that just pisses me off the more I think about it.
#13. X-Men Origins: Wolverine- An eh movie with some interesting stuff, but that's it.
#12. The New Mutants- Very interesting premise, but it was alright.
#11. X-Men: Apocalypse- An ok movie carried by Erik.
#10. X-Men: Dark Pheonix- Very good first half but falls apart through the other half. Really wished there was a retry for this one.
#9. Deadpool 2- Good movie with moments and characters that I liked, but not as good as....
#8. Deadpool- A good, funny movie that redeems fans hope for Wade in this franchise.
#7. The Wolverine- Very underrated movie that should deserve some more attention honestly.
#6. X-Men- A damn good way to start off this whole franchise.
#5. Deadpool & Wolverine- A great movie that serves as an excellent send off to the franchise.
#4. X-Men: First Class- Great movie that shows the start of Charles wanting peace between mutants and humans and the rise of Erik becoming Magneto. Great performances by McAvoy and Fassbender.
#3. X2- Takes everything from the first film and elevates it to 11. Best villain of the whole franchise with Cox as Stryker and the great film debut of Kurt.
#2. X-Men: Days of Future Past- Amazing time travel movie with a great dynamic of Logan and Charles, an iconic moment with Peter, and the best climax in the entire series.
#1. Logan- A straight up masterpiece that I just love talking about since I first watched it.
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frankendykes-monster · 6 months ago
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Of course, this is the fundamental issue with Deadpool and Wolverine. It’s not a story, it’s a collection of familiar intellectual property bundled into a two-hour package, and fans would complain if Wolverine either waited to put the costume on or eventually symbolically took it off. So the costume stays on for the movie’s runtime, because that is the priority here. That’s the primary purpose of the movie. Even the most basic storytelling logic is secondary to the desire to pander to empty nostalgia. It’s very interesting what Deadpool and Wolverine can and cannot joke about, what topics are deemed out of bounds for this most irreverent of franchises. There are no references to either T.J. Miller or Jonathan Majors, though that is to be expected. There are no references to Cable, Domino or Julian, despite the fact that they formed the emotional crux of the last film. They’ve seemingly been replaced by Shatterstar, who is alive for some reason. And who Deadpool no longer hates, for some reason. Under the Disney brand, Deadpool and Wolverine is thoroughly domesticated. Any implication that the making of this movie was troubled is sorely out of bounds. There is another small but appreciable shift between Deadpool and Wolverine and the previous two movies in the franchise. The opening credits in Deadpool and Deadpool 2 were irreverent and passive aggressive. Deadpool was directed by “an overpaid tool”, Deadpool 2 was directed by “one of the guys who killed the dog in John Wick.” In contrast, Deadpool and Wolverine is “a Kevin Feige production” and “a Shawn Levy film.” Apparently there are some things that you don’t joke about. That’s Deadpool and Wolverine in a nutshell. Or a fan-service-y yellow costume.
Still, there is something interesting here. Last year’s summer blockbusters were largely about how man had killed god, whether literally or metaphorically. The High Evolutionary stepped into the role of creator in Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 3. The entire journey of The Creator was to turn off the life support keeping “the Creator” alive. Barbie was about the exile from the Garden. Fast X found Dante (yes) trying to blow up the Vatican because he died and discovered there was no afterlife. Oppenheimer finds mankind taking atomic power into their own hands, “a terrible reckoning of divine power.” Loki imagines what it means to kill He Who Remains. As such, it’s interesting that this year’s blockbusters seek to fill that existential void with something: intellectual property. It’s no surprise so many of this year’s blockbusters are about intellectual property surviving the literal or metaphorical death of the author. Deadpool and Wolverine survive the merger and acquisition of Fox. Harold contemplates his creator’s mortality in Harold and the Purple Crayon. IF was about the idea that nobody outgrows their childhood imaginary friend. Argylle is the story of an author who discovers that she is ultimately a character in her own narrative. In these stories, fiction survives the loss of its creator. Intellectual property endures. Indeed, intellectual property moves to fill the gap. So many modern films are “spreadsheet movies”, films about watching companies celebrate how much stuff they own. Space Jam, The Flash, Deadpool and Wolverine. There is no story, no theme, no purpose, no character. There is only intellectual property, imagery and iconography to be memed and reproduced and reimagined and reworked, until any residual meaning is completely erased. But intellectual property doesn’t just survive. It redeems. It will save you. It is your messiah. What is Madame Web but A Very Spider-Man Nativity, the story of the birth of one Peter Benjamin Parker mythologised, with three wise Spider-Women in attendance? The joke in Deadpool and Wolverine is that Deadpool is “Marvel Jesus”, but the film is too smart to play that straight. Instead, it casts Wolverine as the messiah. Wolverine is “the anchor being.” Only through Wolverine’s death and rebirth can the world itself be redeemed, the universe born again, the centre allowed to hold. Hell, he’s even crucified at one point in Deadpool and Wolverine. [...] (It is telling that even the void has no room for anybody but superheroes. Second chances are reserved entirely for pieces of recognisable iconography, not for ordinary people. There is no humanity to be found in Deadpool and Wolverine, the narrative equivalent of watching an executive move items around a spreadsheet for two straight hours.)
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the-masked-reviewer · 11 months ago
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X-Men (2000) Review
potential spoilers ahead..
This movie has really good CGI and special effects. The effects feel real and do a wonderful job of putting you into the movie's universe. Considering this was over 20 years ago, and the current quality coming from the same studios, I am truly impressed by what they were capable of delivering. The writing and the casting both do a good job of bringing these characters and their world to life. The fight scenes are well choreographed and really fun to watch. The story sets up the rest of the franchise and does a lot of world building. There is quite a lot of exposition, and while the movie does have an interesting story, the remainder of the movie really leaves you thinking that it's building towards later movies and not something that is really its own thing. Something I think contributed to that feeling is just how much time is spent focusing on Wolverine and not the entire team and their dynamics. I understand why they chose to focus on Logan. He's one of the most well-known characters in the X-Men franchise. However, I wish the movie just focused on the team and their dynamic as a whole. They still do a pretty decent job at introducing the rest of this version of the team and start to show some of the inner-team dynamics, just not as much as they could have.
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nums-bird · 11 days ago
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My 2024 favs but I only consume media
Music(Albums)
1.Puberty 2 by Mitski
2.Lush by Mitski
3.Yaelokre series
6.literally everything from epic the musical😭
7.The rise and fall of the Midwest princess by chapell roan
8.Vending machine of love by The Stupendium
9.Lungs by Florence + the machine
10.Superache by Conan gray (literally been obsessed with it for 2 years,)
Media
1.Avatar the last Airbender (og cartoon)
2.Dungeon meshi(probably my favorite anime this year)
3.Haikyuu, specifically cuz I rewatched the first season and watched the movie(no one is shocked)
4.Any sonic franchise tbh(prime,sonic x,boom,sonic 3)
5.Transformers media(I blame transformers one)
6.Ultraman rising(I MISS THEM SM😭😭)
7.Deadpool and Wolverine (def my favorite movie this year)
8.The wild robot (literally my favorite animated movie rn)
9.Alien stage(does this count since I've known about it from last year but never watched them??)
10.Arcane(literally took up my entire November)
Fanfiction
I'm prefixing by saying that I have literally just been reading sakuatsu this year
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hellou-i-guess · 6 months ago
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Hello, hello
Welcome to episode 2 of Things that frustrate me, Hellou, for some reason
Today I present to you:
STOP CALLING IT A MULTIVERSE IT'S NOT A MULTIVERSE
This entire post came to be simply because I have seen many people and videos say 'All franchises (MCU and Star Wars most frequently) now want a multiverse' or something along those lines.
Now onto the program:
It's just semantics, really.
I think that it is pretty clear what the word 'multiverse' stands for, but I like the order so you get the unnecessary etymology.
The word 'multiverse' is made up of two words - multi and universe. It's used in science and storytelling to tell us that there are multiple different universes that happen at the same time where things are different.
From a storytelling perspective it's mostly used in comics. Firstly used in 'The Flash', but now commonly tied with MCU because of the Multiverse Saga.
And here is my a bit harsh opinion - MCU is not a multiverse. Currently at the very least. Not many things that are called 'multiverse' are actually functioning multiverse.
They deal with the multiverse but are not the multiverse.
DC and Marvel as comics are multiverses, because they have comics happening in different universes to theirs, but I will not be focusing on those, because I don't want to entangle myself into like 90 years of comics and retconning and 'is this now cannon or not or did it happen on Earth xxx'.
So there are a couple of examples I would mainly like to focus on in this amateur essay - Star Wars, DCU (the presentation on Gunn's plan for it specifically), MCU - the multiverse saga and 'Legend of Zelda' Franchise (post 'Ocarina of Time').
Gunn's plan for DCU
This will be brief as we don't know much about how this will actually pan out, but DCU as it is planned is actually a multiverse.
Simply due to them not dismissing the other movies and saying that they plan to make movies not connected to the storyline that they will call 'Elseworlds' stories.
So essentially the story is taking a place in another universe and exists inside DCU it just isn't the part of main continuity we are following.
That is a multiverse as they exist inside the same entity with same characters, but in different universes. Simple enough.
MCU - The Multiverse Saga
Unlike the above mentioned DCU, the MCU deals with multiverse. Doctor Strange, Ant-man, Spiderman and Loki are characters whose stories are interconnected with the multiverse - hence the name of the saga.
However, MCU as entertainment entity owns no films or TV shows that have stories running or happening in different universes that have nothing to do with the main continuity. All of the stories take place in one universe with brief touches on other universes.
If the MCU, for example acquires Iron Man: Armored Adventures and that comes under the MCU umbrella, then, yes, the MCU is a multiverse, but until that or something similar happens it is not a multiverse.
'Deadpool and Wolverine' does not change this fact as the MCU has acquired characters, but not the movies from 20th Century Fox. They essentially have the same entrance to MCU as America Chavez.
The Legend of Zelda - post 'Ocarina of Time'
As anybody who played the games or has watched a lore video explaining the Zelda timeline at 2am instead of sleeping will tell you - it's a mess.
I'll be short (shocking), after the events of 'Ocarina' the timeline splits into three - the hero is successful which leads into child and adult eras and Ganondorf succeeds. Different games happen during this three eras and they are fully independent of each other and events that happen in them. 'Wind Waker' has no impact on 'Twilight Princess'.
This was specifically included for that rift in the timeline, because whether 'The Legend of Zelda' is a multiverse depends on how you see the multiverse.
If your definition of multiverse is completely different universes that have existed independently of each other then no, it is not a multiverse.
If you count diverging timelines as different universes branching out from the same one then yes, it is a multiverse.
Of course, these are only valid if we ignore the existence of 'Breath of the Wild' and 'Tears of the Kingdom'.
Why? Because of their placement in the timeline.
If the timelines converge sometime before the events of 'BotW' then no, it is not a multiverse, just a timeline issue bordering on multiverse.
If they don't refer to previous if loop.
Unfortunately, 'BotW' has no official placement in the timeline and this thing is still murky. I have seen people put it in different spots in the timeline.
Star Wars
While we're on the topic of timelines. Star Wars is the most frequent franchise I have seen referred to as the multiverse and it's just not.
It's the simplest example here do dissect.
It's stories taking place in different points in the same timeline of one universe. There is no mention of other universes of diverging timelines.
Same as 'House of the Dragon' and 'Game of Thrones'. It's the same universe, it's just that one takes place nearly 200 years before the other. There are just larger time jumps and different political conflicts and state of political rest (empire and republic).
In conclusion, just because a franchise has different projects or deals with the multiverse does not mean that franchise itself is a multiverse.
If you read this far - thank you, sorry for the long read
:)
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klxudykai · 5 months ago
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it’s been like two weeks since my last post i didn’t die yall 🙏🏾
school has been keeping me occupied and i didn’t have much to update on
but i do have ONE thing to say. and that one thing is that i find hugh jackman extremely attractive.
i kept seeing people talk about the new deadpool and wolverine movie so i decided to watch the entire franchise starting from x men all the way to the deadpool movie 💀
sooo now that my new obsession is hugh jackman there’s a possibility i will be shifting to x men 😍😍
it’s the way that i’ve been inactive for 10 days and didn’t have any update to give other than how im obsessed with hugh 😭😭 but yeah i’ll probably come back on like weekends and stuff to just talk about random shit and give my lil bits of advice 🤷🏾‍♀️
but anywhooo i hope yall are doing good (as you can see i don’t have much to say) 🕺
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