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not to be a d*ck, but is it true the king's trial was kind of illegal?
Yes - because the existing laws at the time gave the king more rights and protection than any other person. It was basically impossible to put him on trial for a crime legally.
If anyone else were accused of that crime (high treason), it would've been an easy trial with a clear sentence (not just during frev; we know how treason was addressed in Ancient Régime).
But Louis had special protections in the law. So that was a pickle. And that's why the Convention took so long to figure out what to do (if he could be tried legally at all). It was an example of "it can't really be done legally, but it's because the law is bad". Yet they (majority at least) didn't want to go "fuck the laws, it's unfair for him to have privileges over other people, especially for that type of crime". So they struggled to find a loophole that would make it non-illegal and in the process some important things were said about the nature of rulership, the divine right of kings, equality, democracy etc. But yeah, there was no way to do it legally because the law was bad. (Edit: And I think rulers generally still enjoy these protections around the world, so it wasn't unusual. Still bad.)
#this is a simplification of what went down#but it does touch upon issues of what to do when the law is wrong/bad/unfair#is the most important thing to stick to it to keep things legal#even if unfair#or go against it#but yes it's a complex issue#not just in louis' case#but also diplomatic immunity for the deputies#or idk how it was called in their time - i am referring to the whole 'can/should deputies be put on trial'#and of course there were different opinions on that#but it's something that exists in our time too#which baffles me to no end - why would a politician have any special protection is beyond me#but i digress#frev#french revolution#louis xvi#*parliamentary immunity not diplomatic lol#i guess inviolability is the word#can't english today
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Just arrived at home and is welcomed by this best news. WE WON
#interview with the vampire#iwtv#amc iwtv#amc interview with the vampire#lestat de lioncourt#louis de pointe du lac#armand#daniel molloy#claudia#we beat the cancellation and low rating allegations!#just in case people misunderstand
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Well, it's quite nice, I suppose. Herringbone wool, notched collar. You might not know this, but I had the tailer inscribe your initials on the back side of the ticket pocket. Right here. So your name would always cradle...
INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE 2.04 › I Want You More Than Anything in the World 1.03 › Is My Very Nature That of a Devil
#this killed me btw. just in case you didnt know. this killedddddddddddd me#just repeating non stop in my mind the whole weekend#*#interview with the vampire#iwtv#iwtvedit#tvedit#loustat#louis de pointe du lac#lestat de lioncourt#q
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i actually did this last week but hated it. still hate it but sometimes that's how it is
#iwtv fanart#iwtv#iwtv s2#interview with the vampire#louis de pointe du lac#claudia iwtv#iwtv claudia#claudia de lioncourt#claudia de pointe du lac#iwtv spoilers#not really but just in case
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with how unreliable all those narrators are, the whole season might actually be a bored dreamstat’s amusing little daydream
#my art#I’m sure a smart person can write a whole ass dissertation about louis and armand’s relationship this season#but I’m just gonna continue screaming about the choice to make multiple of their kisses completely shrouded in darkness/almost a silhouette#thanks for that show I’m so normal about it#interview with the vampire#iwtv#interview with the vampire amc#iwtv amc#iwtv fanart#iwtv art#louis de pointe du lac#the vampire armand#loumand#and#dreamstat#of course of course wouldn’t want to forget our favourite most fabulous representation of Louis’ psyche#and just in case and to be safe (although I’d think it’s pretty tame considering the show)#tw: gore#tw: blood#cw: gore#cw: blood
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something something louis used to be a pimp something something armand was sold to a brothel
i don't know where i'm going with this but this realisation came to me suddenly and i refuse to be normal about it
(that and daniel calling armand a rent boy in season 1 like WOW man come on now)
#there was a similar dichotomy in the books with louis being a former slave owner and armand being a former slave but it wasn't so overt#i doubt they'll even mention this in the series once we learn more about armand's past but still#i wonder if louis knows#i honestly doubt it#but he might#interview with the vampire#iwtv#amc iwtv#amc interview with the vampire#armand#louis de pointe du lac#loumand#the vampire chronicles#iwtv spoilers#interview with the vampire spoilers#←don't know if this counts but adding them in post just in case
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AWAY FROM H👁️ME FESTIVAL 2024
#afhf#away from home festival#louis tomlinson#louis tomlinson gifs#afhf gifs#louisupdates#louisprojectstracks#louistomlinsoncouk#mindofwalls#afhf24#my fitfwt content#flashing tw#just in case#all photos belong to their respective owners i’ve just edited them a little
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"Memories do not always soften with time; some grow edges like knives." - Barbara Kingsolver
#delicious. finally some good fucking trauma#did u see what i did with noe's eye 👀#see what i did with that pun just now 👀#you see it right#anime#vnc#vanitas#vanitas no carte#tcsov#csov#the case study of vanitas#case study of vanitas#noe archiviste#noé archiviste#vanoe#vanoé#louis de sade
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He's too old to caroling.
#Just the sketches I drew during my impromptu Halloween in March#the case of vanitas#vanitas no carte#les memoires de vanitas#vnc#dominique de sade#digital art#koldusek2024#koldusek art#noe archiviste#louis de sade
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That's Happiness To Me by louislittletomlintum
for: @louisrarepairfest wordcount: 25k rating: explicit uni au // louis + zayn + liam
“Seems we’ve got a little conundrum on our hands,” Louis murmured into Zayn’s ear, feeling his hands settle back on his waist and pressing a little closer. “Mm. Seems we do,” Zayn responded, and Louis liked to think his voice was at least a bit intrigued. Louis’ mind was whirring. He’d wanted to try and get with Liam tonight, but now a new, better idea was forming. Getting Liam with Zayn, if possible, would be something of a dream come true. It would maybe blow Liam’s brain, but sometimes you had to make sacrifices for good things to happen. “Do you wanna try pull him together?” Louis asked Zayn curiously, grinning against his skin when he felt his hands grip tighter.
or; a porn with plot zouiam uni au with all the predictable antics plus a few more
a/n: this was written prior to liam passing and i have chosen to stick with my posting date for this fic fest. i hope that, like myself, you find some solace and connection in the safe space that is fanfic and, if you are searching for a distraction, something silly and frivolous like this can take your mind off of it. x
#zouiam#louisrarepairfest#there is also a special little#zouis#scene for good measure#ao3 fanfic#gonna tag#liam#just in case people are censoring his tag#liam payne#zayn malik#louis tomlinson
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Istg I just discovered The Glass Scientists *LAST NIGHT* and I got up to date in about a few hours only!
I've consumed this comic like a drug, damn. (Thanks to my new hyperfixation of Jekyll and Hyde lol (taking on a goth liter. class does that to you I guess🤷♀️))
ANYWAYS- i saw someone's post minutes ago and how the comic is apparently 2 chapters away from the end????
I'm like- no... please no... IVE ONLY JUST FOUND THIS GEM!!!!
(Also you can bet I'm about to buy the volumes, holy shii)(library near the uni can order them!!!💜💜💜💜😍😍😍😍😍🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩)
Anyway I am in love with Jekyll/Hyde, and the big mess they (he?👀) are!
The text from Stevenson was too short for my liking, but the internet has always got the back of the fandoms; and bless their souls for that!!
May you have clear skin, your crops watered, and both sides of your pillows fresh!
Anyway, this is a TGS appreciation post in case you didn't notice ;)
Big love to @arythusa and the whole team that created this magnificent work of art!
Mhua💜
#the glass scientists#the strange case of dr jekyll and mr hyde#dr jekyll and mr hyde#dr jekyll#mr hyde#robert louis stevenson#gothic#gothic literature#novella#visual novel#novel#web comic#tgs#frankenstein#frankenstein's monster#frankenstein's creature#appreciation post#pls dont tell me its about to end#ive just discovered this gem
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honestly, i will never get over Sam revealing/confirming that lestat thought louis was dead after the 1973 call with armand like.............this whole time he thought he had lost louis forever :(
#i just assumed he knew he was out there but ofc that wasn't the case (looking at armand rn)#armand when i find you#i kinda wanna see a scene of him grieving louis does that make me evil?#interview with the vampire#lestat de lioncourt#loustat#queue
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Camille Desmoulins and Maximilien Robespierre – doomed by the Revolution?
a second part of the answer to the ask kindly sent by @iron--and--blood - first part can be found here
Okay, so I tried to follow the sources and I ended up missing what is arguably the key question. I think that there is enough evidence that warrants seeing Camille and Maximilien’s relationship as a ‘friendship torn apart but the revolution’, but could it in fact be something more that the chain of events of the mid-1790s ended up destroying?
(aka the good old “were they gay?” question)
It’s probably not surprising to anyone that there is no conclusive evidence that would suggest that either of them was definitely queer or that they were involved in some kind of a relationship. For context, the French Constitutional Assembly did decriminalise homosexuality, since there was simply no mention of private same-sex relationships it in the penal code of 1791.
Of course, there would still be a stigma surrounding queerness, seeing how France was a Catholic country – well, up to that point. On the other hand, it is also important to remember that anyone who received a higher education at that time would be well versed in classical authors (Greek and Roman that is), so they would have a framework for a positively viewed queer attraction/relationship (I'm mostly thinking of a kind of Alcibiades/Socrates vibes here. I think it sort of fits? Well it does in my headcanon anyway...). Camille especially seemed to be really into classics, making references to classical authors, history or mythology in approximately every other sentence.
CAMILLE – VICES HONTEUX AND A POSSIBILE BICON
If we consider Camille, I think it is clear that he was attracted to women. I think that the historical sources show that he genuinely did love his wife - Lucile - although it may also be true he was bit of a cad. There is a whole deal with him and Lucile’s mother with whom he apparently exchanged some flirty letters? I honestly need to look into it more at some point.
That said, attraction to women of course doesn’t exclude attraction to men. The one thing that would suggest Camille might have pursued a same-sex relationships is the reference to “vices honteux“ (shameful vices), which Saint-Just claims were attributed to Camille by Danton. We also learn from Robespierre’s note that this refered to something that was ‘totally unrelated to the revolution’.
So we know it’s something that would be seen as ‘shameful’ behaviour, but nonetheless a private matter. Could it be interest in same-sex relationships? It’s of course hard to say, but the theory is not completely implausible. For a discussion about this, I recommend this article.
MAXIMILIEN – A CONFIRMED BACHELOR?
With Maximilien Robespierre, it gets a little more complicated. He was essentially a confirmed bachelor, living with a family that adored him but that was not his own (and also a dog. He had a dog.) Talk about a found family trope!
Some sources claim that he was engaged to Éléonore Duplay, but Robespierre’s sister for one vehemently denies this. It’s true that he could probably easily have married her – I can’t imagine her family being opposed to it, far from it probably – but the fact is that for one reason or another, he did not.
He also didn’t really seem to capitalise on his massive popularity among the Parisian women. (Though, to be fair, neither did Rousseau and he was… well I guess he was his own version of heterosexual.)
Sure, one can interpret that as Robespierre being a workaholic or putting the revolution above everything else, but I personally think it is very possible that he would be considered to be on the asexual spectrum by today’s standards.
That said, although France was moving away from institutionalised religion at that point, Catholic guilt could certainly play a role, especially in someone who prided himself in his moral conduct and was told to be rigid about the rules. So the possibility of him being closeted as an explanation for his lack of interest in women would also not be completely off the table.
As to Camille and Maximilien being together in some way? I think there is certainly a precedence for this type of relationship in adolescence. Seeing that they have studied together (and shared enthusiasm for classics probably), it is not impossible, though of course, it is highly speculative.
I think it is also fair to say that Robespierre went above and beyond for Camille until the last few months. That is something he probably would have not done for many other people. He actually said as much himself:
“Learn, Camille, that if you were not Camille, one could not have so much indulgence for you.“
Was it because Camille was universally liked by the revolutionaries for all the good he has done? Possibly, but I think one can also read more into it. It certainly suggests that Camille was special in some way, and the fact that Robespierre uses ‚one‘ instead of ‚I‘ does not necessarily mean he is not speaking about himself here.
CAMILLE AND MAXIMILIEN IN THE MEDIA
When it comes to media portrayal, the relationship often comes across as queer-coded - to an extent.
In La Révolution française, this aspect is more prominent between Robespierre and Saint-Just, but with some well-timed smiles and glances, it almost reads as a tragic love triangle between the three. There are some unfortunate implications however, mainly that the hints of Robespierre's queerness in the movie are implicitly associated with his descent to tyrany. Ugh. (And let's face it, a kind of effeminacy linked to villainy as well. Honestly, who thought that kind of portrayal would be a good idea? Kudos for making a historical movie about the French Revolution come across as homophobic I guess.)
Hilary Mantel straight-up makes Camille Desmoulins bisexual (ish?) in A Place of Greater Safety, though there are <a lot of> issues with that portrayal, as discussed here (watch me linking another mutual's great post! Frevblr is truly the best). Not sure how the relationship with Robespierre is presented here since it’s one of the books I’ve been in the middle of for months.
And then there’s Stanisława Przybyszewska of course. She would honestly warrant a separate post, but long story short: in her works, there is no doubt about the fact that she portrays the relationship between them as queer. She invokes the Erastes/eromenos dynamic between them (quite explicitly, referring to Camille as an ephebe at one point) and makes the attraction between the two seem palpable. There is plenty of queer (under)tones to be found in The Danton Case, but in Last Nights of Ventôse , she straight up interprets the fall of the Dantonists as Camille running into Danton’s arms to spite Robespierre for snubbing him and rejecting his devotion (romantic advances?). And it gets quite physical – not in a way that would warrant an E rating, but it would certainly deserve one for the sheer emotional intensity.
#there is a great fic that explores the idea of Robespierre being ace btw. Features some A+ philosophical discussions as well#the only issue is the fact that the other person in the pairing is --#no - shan't say!#frev#french revolution#asks#camille desmoulins#maximilien robespierre#queer history#frevblr#frev community#robesmoulins#1700s#history#stanisława przybyszewska#hilary mantel#a place of greater safety#the danton case#la révolution française#la revolution francaise#bisexuality#asexuality#Éléonore Duplay#robespierre#desmoulins#queer analysis#saint-just#louis antoine de saint just#lucile desmoulins#georges danton
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Chen Yi, are you out of your mind? You said it. Just for fun. Why are you being shy now? I'm not in the mood. But I am. How are you supposed to face your favorite boss if you act like this? He's always our boss. The man who brought us up.
KISEKI: DEAR TO ME Ep. 10
#kiseki: dear to me#kisekiedit#kdtm#kiseki dear to me#ai di x chen yi#chen yi x ai di#nat chen#chen bowen#louis chiang#chiang tien#jiang dian#userrain#userspring#userjjessi#uservid#userspicy#*cajedit#*gif#i LOVE chen yi this whole scene because hes not actually trying to do anything other than gauge ai di's reactions#he's trying to figure him out#and this is the scene where he gets it#where he Confirms what he thought was the case: that ai di has feelings for him and has this whole time#because while ai di will never say it#and while chen yi acknowledges that he didnt pay enough attention to him before#regardless of both those things they KNOW each other they grew up together they know the other's habits and quirks#and he's paying attention now.#and ai di is just REALLY REALLY SHOOK like oh my god the fact that even after this#he goes to bai zongyi and is like 'im afraid i was just seeing what i wanted to see'#THEY'RE INSANE#also dw im gonna gif the 'just for fun' bit too at some point
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"Dressed in a frock coat perfectly fitted, highlighting the elegance of his waist, his long legs delicately hugged by his grey culottes, Saint-Just looked at he had just come out of a fashion plate. Overwhelmed, Collot dropped his gaze. Nor the sun or Saint-Just could be looked at intently." Jacques Ravenne: La Chute, translated by: @robespapier I will be remiss if I dont offer this art to you, especially getting a good laugh out of the passage you shared.
#yes this is a repost because ikenoklasm got nuked lmao don't ask me how it got nuked because I'm just as confused#frev#in case ikenoklasm dont get relinquished Im posting this here#for back up#louis antoine saint just#my art#ikenoklasm's art#will be tagging my artworks as ikenoklasm's art from henceforth for better tagging system#or at least an attempt for one
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*don’t make everything about being gay don’t make everything about being gay don’t make—*
*shouting from the rooftops*
IN SOME WAYS JEKYLL AND HYDE CAN BE AN ALLEGORY FOR HOMOSEXUALITY AND THE DANGERS OF H(yde)ING IT
#in some ways#IN SOME WAYS OK#i don’t want the cishet lit nerds on my ass#but the joy jekyll finds in living as hyde when he has been taught to repress it is just so classic closet case#not saying it was purposefully queer#just sin in general yes#but if i was a queer teen in the 1890s reading this#i would’ve related to jekyll#and destroyed myself over it#writing#books#english literature#jekyll and hyde#henry jekyll#rl stevenson#robert louis stevenson
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