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shinobirain24 · 2 years ago

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RWBY: Soldier of Ice

Plot: Winter Schnee, the first (later former) heiress of the Schnee Dust Company, is enrolled into Atlas Academy to not be defined by her family name and legacy. As her only desire to be remembered as a soldier for when she graduates. There, Winter is experiencing her life as a leader of Team WNND (pronounced: wind). And even making friends in the process. But also experiencing a rivalry with a student of Haven Academy, Jupiter Vasilias, rogue young man and a member of Team ZRVT (Pronounced: serpent), whom despises Winter because of who her father, Jacques Schnee was.

Characters:

Team WNND

Winter Schnee - An heiress of the SDC and the leader of Team WNND. Being made the leader of her team, she was shunned by her teammates due to her background as a Schnee. But remained patient with her teammates as it came to her understanding that they needed time to adjust to her as she has to do with them. Winter only enrolled into Atlas Academy to become a soldier and not be defined with her maternal grandfather, Nicholas's legacy. Though she takes her grandfather's advise to heart that she needs to bind her mind and soul to find herself a path.

Perseus Nire - an heir to Nire Industries. Like Winter, he was disgusted with how the rich disregard the lives of those unfortunate despite being born to a wealthy family that involves tinkering machines and weapons. He was disowned by his father after he forbade him from enrolling into Atlas Academy. He didn't trust Winter at first due to her father's shading dealings. But took his time to get to know her better and became her closest confidant. His weapon is a shield that also shifts into an arm blade, dubbed Arm-Protectus. His semblance is that his skin can transform into metal until his aura runs out to change back to normal. But it was weakened against heat. He is an allusion of the warrior, Perseus from Greek Mythology.

Natalie Andromeda - an heiress of Andromeda Cosmetics, and the love interest of Perseus Nire. Natalie was born a beautiful girl during her teen years. And her mother was jealous of her beauty that she once tried to sacrifice her to the oceans waves by chaining her to an iceberg. This unlocks her semblance of magnetic abilities that broke free from her captivity and saved herself from certain death. After this, her mother was arrested, and Natalie cuts ties from her father for failing to control her jealous behavior. Natalie enrolled Atlas Academy to not be defined by her beauty. There she met Perseus Nire, whom only interested in her for her for who she is. Her main weapons are the dual chains that her mother used for her sacrifice, and it was upgraded with spike gear attached on the ends. She is the allusion of Princess Andromeda from Greek Mythology.

Deshiro Kaze - am heir to the Kaze clan that served the Atlas Military for generations. And was next in line to lead his clan. His family was from a long line of samurais form his Mistralese ancestry. His grandmother was from Atlas descent, while his grandfather was born from Mistral. Making Deshiro's grandparents are the first interracial couple to reside in Atlas after marriage. His weapon was his katana. But for mysterious reasons, he wears a blindfold, even though he is not blind. His semblance creates waves of the wind every time he uses his sword. He is the allusion of the Japanese god of the wind, Fujin.

Team ZRVT

Zerena Slithers - The leader of Team ZRVT and the only female in the group from Haven Academy. Zerena was held captive as a slave to the aristocracies in Atlas as a young girl due to her being a snake-tailed faunus. Only for her to rally her fellow captives and fight back. Unlocking her semblance to turn people into stone. She wields a scythe/whip due to being taught by Qrow Branwen, making her one of Qrow's first student to have used a scythe besides before Ruby Rose. When it was turned into an electric whip, it was infused with electric dusts. Zerena is an allusion to Medusa from Greek Mythology.

Roth Mandle - A young man with a semblance to control the vegetation around the environment. He is a herbalist-in-training studying plants since his mother's flower shop came into a close. His main weapon is a battle axe that also serves as a minigun. Roth is silent, but he means well for his teammates. With his herbology skills, Roth can establish a remedy needed for healing, or a weapon for poison to use on his enemies. Though enemies with Team WNND, he respected them for their way of working together. He is an allusion to Jack and the Beanstalk.

Jupiter Vasilias - A blue-haired teenage boy who is rebellious and filled with anger issues. He is a student under Qrow Branwen (whom Jupiter idolized). He came from a rare bloodline of warriors that used aquatic-based semblances. Jupiter is well-known to be a heartbreaker and dating multiple girls, only to cheat the next. He has a grudge against the Schnee Family due to his mother's cases against CEO Jacques Schnee, and he retaliated with shutting the law firm down. And he hated his daughter, Winter for that, and would prefer to her as "Ice Demon." And hated the wealth and Atlas as a result. His main weapon is a spear that also serves as a saber naginata and a sniper gun. His semblance allows Jupiter to convert water into mist.

Tyler Shepard - A wolf-eared faunus and a thief. Tyler was raised by a tribe of bandits sometime after he somewhat ended up orphaned. Tyler has a skills for thievery and was long time friends with Jupiter, whom they formed a connection through business of revenge against the aristocracies. His friendship with Jupiter is similar to Sun's friendship with Neptune. Only he mostly followed for whatever Jupiter says and taught him how to steal. His main weapons are dual tomahawks that also shifts into pistols, dubbed Alpha and Beta. His semblance allows Tyler to steal other people's semblances by physical contact to use until their aura runs out.

#rwby #rwby prequel #winter schnee #jupiter vasilias #rwby fanfic #rwby fanfiction

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eiiskonigin · 2 years ago

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it's a million degrees and I made myself sad so you know what? fuck it, I'm going to finally write out the Kai headcanon / lore / whatever you want to call this nonsense. I kept putting it off because I was never happy with it but fuck it.

When Winter joined Atlas Academy, she was assigned to a team with three other people. Among those three was her partner, a young man by the name of Kai Troldenglas. The pair quickly proved a force to be reckoned with in their year, their fighting styles blending together almost seamlessly.

Despite the fact that Winter could be cold and standoffish even back then, Kai insisted on growing closer to her -- doing little things to break down her walls. Remembering the things she preferred to eat in the mess hall and saving her the last of them should she be running late. Taking an interest on the rare occasions that she did open up about herself, her home life.

If you had asked Winter, she would have said that Kai was a reliable partner. Someone she was growing to trust, someone she would begin to call a friend.

Over their first year at the Academy, their friendship blossomed into something more. Truthfully, Winter had never put much thought into romantic relationships: she knew that her father was insistent that marriage in a family like theirs was a tool to be used to move up in the world, so she had tried to never consider that sort of thing, had closed her heart off to avoid being hurt in the way her mother had been.

Kai had changed that. Kai, though his presence and patience, had wormed his way into her heart.

Winter had fallen in love, or at least whatever a teenager believed to be love.

So, when he asked her to be his girlfriend, she accepted. When he took her to his bed, she let him.

And when he proposed to her during the summer break, she thought that this was how things were supposed to happen. Weren't they? When two people found one another, this was the natural next step. Winter's own ignorance to how relationships were meant to work worked against her, accepting his proposal. She would marry him, and be happy, and that was how things would play out.

Happily ever after.

She'd never liked those stories.

It was during her engagement party that the cracks in Kai's facade began to show. It was as if a switch had been flipped: the calm and sweet boy she'd met at school replaced with a haughty, snobbish young man. Snapping at the staff working the event, acting as if he were above them. Talking to her as if he were someone completely different.

The truth revealed itself behind closed doors, a conversation she was never meant to hear. When stepping away from the party in an attempt to clear her head, Winter found her father in his office having a conversation with Mr. Troldenglas -- her father-in-law to be -- about how their business arrangement had worked out perfectly.

It was a lie. Everything she had believed about Kai. He had paid his way into Atlas Academy, buying out another student for their place. While being placed on a team with Winter was purely by chance, his getting close to her had not been.

He wasn't marrying Winter. He was marrying the SDC heiress.

Furious, Winter stormed back into the party and shut it down. Mortified at being so foolish as to believe he could have actually liked her, could have loved her. The ring was thrown back in the Troldenglas's faces, and she screamed for them to get out of her home, out of her life.

Sure enough, when the semester started in the fall, Kai was no longer enrolled in Atlas Academy.

Winter went through the rest of her schooling with no partner -- her own request, honored by Headmaster Ironwood -- and held the rest of her team at arms length. Over the years, it simply became an accepted fact that Winter Schnee was a cold, heartless person who wanted nothing to do with other people.

The wounds from her first love still show, now and then. That fear at being fooled again, the hatred of her own heart. Still desperately trying to heal.

#( headcanon ) / ✦ your destiny was chosen for you .#tw long post #/ i've tried to write this so many times so here the fuck it is #/ color naming rule: the name kai often traces back to hawaiian roots meaning 'sea'#/ kai himself is an allusion to kai / kay / kaj from the snow queen fairytale #/ and the surname troldenglas is a reference to the troll mirror which starts the story #/ the idea existed before kai did as a character but he's kind of grown to be his own entity over the years of writing winter #/ his weapon was a two-handed danish sword named Evighed #/ he still lives in Atlas and occasionally tries to fuck with Winter but she avoids him at all costs #/ i'm weirdly nervous to post this so uhhhhh...#/ please be kind #( dynamic.kai troldenglas ) / ✦ fairytales are not to be believed i blame myself if i have been deceived .

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rwbyazre · 2 years ago

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Are you cool with expanding on the next generation of Team RWBY/AKA on their children?

Hell yeah, I love these lil' gremlins.

Just for this ask, obviously it's the kids that are from specifically Team RWBY, but that means one of the main team isn't included since he's just Adam/Zanthus' kid.

Obviously we have Sun Guiying, who's arguably the main protagonist of the sequel and is the Strawbana child!

She's the only child between Sun and Ruby, and was raised in Vale City with Sun, since Sun as Ozpin's next host had to be near Beacon to help Glynda with the Academy. But Ruby as a Huntress takes her job very seriously, it's something she''s always wanted to do since she was a kid, but that desire does sometimes eclipse her duties as Guiying's mother.

Ruby is by no means a BAD mother, she's actually good when she's there, she just needs to remember to actually be there. The issue is that this is part of what feeds into Guiying's inferiority issues.

Because silver eyes becomes more common knowledge in the RWBY future, and when you hear so many stories of how your mum, nan and uncle and aunts, and even one of her cousins all had these cool eyes, and you don't, it's a little hard not to feel sensitive about it.

Which is why Guiying is represented by the blue rose. She's copying Ruby's path, becoming a Huntress, always ready to jump into the fight, because she's partially fueled by the desire to be like them. She wants to be special without really understanding just how much trauma the silver eyes have brought Ruby.

Her allusion is the Vermillion Bird, or the Monkey Zodiac for a minor one. As well as that, her Semblance is Solarflare, the ability to teleport through ports of light similar to Ruby's Petal Burst, while keeping Sun's Via Sun light theme.

Then we have the Monochrome triplets, starting with:

Chandra Schnee, the main Monochrome child and Guiying's team leader for Team CSYN (Cyan).

Now I made Chandra to almost be a foil for Guiying. She's everything Guiying wanted. She's smart, she's had the familial attention, she has the Schnee Semblance, and Chandra is very much the girl who doesn't think twice about it. She's worked for it, so she got it.

Very much an opinionated person who's a self-admitted perfectionist. Weiss and Blake learned from their own past mistakes and tried to raise Chandra to not repeat them, but that ego is pretty much a family genetic trait at this point.

Her love for fighting and showing her skills does have some downsides besides alienating her teammate, and that's because while training when she was younger, she accidentily scarred her sister, Merrill. It was a sobering moment for her, which pushed Chandra to take her work very seriously because she knows just what she's capable of.

So because Chandra is so grounded in reality, she does butt heads with Guiying and her more idealised view of becoming a Huntsman.

She's also the White Tiger for her team's Four Gods allusions. As mentioned before, she has the Schnee Glyph Semblance like Weiss and Whitley, but the Schnee Semblance has a glyph unique to each weilder.

Chandra's is Ice Clones. Her glyph allows her to summon up to three ice clones of herself to fight with her. They don't have aura and are fragile, but the extra numbers helps her for support or allow Chandra a distraction to retreat or retaliate.

Wisteria is technically the oldest triplet, as much as you can be, and she's the one who decided to go into business and continue the downscaled SDC after Weiss and Whitley, since Whitley himself doesn't have any kids.

All three of the triplets were taught combat for self defense, but while Chandra went to the Huntsmen Academies and Merrill went into the military, Wisteria didn't and went into business instead.

But while she's not the strongest, she's the smartest, and they know it. Not only from an analytical way, as she's a wizz with numbers and economics, but she's very much a people's person with a sharp eye for spotting out behaviours. Chandra is too egotistical and Merrill is too blunt.

So her design takes more after Weiss' when she was home in Atlas, but redesigned to suit both Wisteria's colour pallete and the bow motif that was canon Blake's.

Her allusion is the wisteria tree in Japanese culture, symbolising longevity and love, as her love and desire to see her family continue is a major part of her character. Her Semblance has been unlocked through her trainin, but she doesn't have the Schnee Semblance like her two sisters.

Instead, her Semblance is Hysteria. By releasing small purple petals around her, the pheromones that they emit will induce drowsiness, nausea and even cause some people to hallucinate. The pheromones are odorless, so an enemy won’t discover it through smell until they’ve already inhaled it.

Merrill is the last Monochrome triplet who decided to go into the military, so her design went more into the formal military wear that Atlas operatives commonly wear. She's not old enough to go further up the ranks, since she's seventeen at the start of the story, but she has some promising abilities that could propel her.

She's also the only triplet that inherited Blake's ears. As the most apparent Faunus, even with the other two triplets being known for their Faunus mother, Merrill gets the worst for her ears, especially since she stayed in Atlas with her mothers and Wisteria, while Chandra went to Menagerie.

After her incident with Chandra that left her blind in her left eye, Merrill does anything to hide away any reminder of the accident on her face, with her styled fringe and abversion to anything that might bring it up. She doesn't hate Chandra for it, but she very much blames her and the two aren't as close as they were as kids.

Other than that, she very much plays up the disciplined solider persona to try and hide away anything that would be seen as outside the norm. She wants to be left alone to fit in with everyone else, but underneath the strict stoicness, she has a very volatile temper.

Her allusion is the Matagot, the French cat that is either evil or good, and brings wealth to your home if fed.

Like Chandra, Merrill inherited the Schnee Semblance and can summon Glyphs, with her unique glyph being Void. She creates a glyph with a black hole in the middle, allowing Merrill to absorb any attack, or even push people in, and neutralise them. Obviously if you fall into it, you kinda die.

The last one of the Team RWBY kids is Eirian and Yang's two kids, starting with:

Xiaolong Yinyue, their son and the third member of Team CSYN. He's also Guiying's cousin.

A very laidback type of guy, he's great when with the more childish Guiying and arrogant Chandra, but that laidback nature came because he was trained from a very young age to remmeber to keep his emotions in check, knowing the true story behind how Yang lost her arm.

Those lessons stuck with him, making him almost a mediator type who is very hard to push. He does have his own struggles, of course, he struggles knowing what his place in the world is. Yinyue went to the Huntsmen Acadmies because he doesn't know what else to do, rather mirroring Yang's own struggles when she was youger.

He just does what Guiying does. So long as she's happy, then he's happy, but spending your entire life making sure everyone else in comfortable left him floundering on what to do when he isn't needed anymore.

His allusion is the Azure Dragon, he very much keeps Yang's dragon motif while having Eirian's cool blue colouring. His semblance is Yin Release. With his own Aura, he can make phantom creatures, though he seems to prefer making dragons.

The last child of Golen Fleece and this ask is Eluhlaza Esna, Yinyue's older sister.

While she is the oldest, she's not very mature and very much struggles with her anxiety, pretty much willingly letting Yinyue handle things whenever she can. She'll do it if pushed, but things can easily go wrong and push her back into her shell.

But her lack of courage is replaced with a deep love and pride in her younger brother. Eluhlaza is Yinyue's biggest cheerleader and encouraged him to try and find his place in the Huntsman Academies, since she knew he had been struggling with his self identity for a long time.

Like Yinyue, Eluhlaza was given some training when she was younger, but she very much is not a fighter like the rest of her family. She hates it.

Her allusion is the Lightning Bird from Zulu mythology, and had managed to unlock her Semblance; Overcharge. By converting energy, she is able to charge up to the point of generating sparks, inflicting electrical damage. A side effect of this is her body overheats so much that her hair starts burning like Yang's.

That's all the kids for Team RWBY either way, though!

#rwby #azre #sun guiying #chandra schnee #wisteria schnee #merrill belladonna #xiaolong yinyue #eluhlaza esna #characters #answered #luke.txt

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scipiosmith · 1 year ago

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“This is the Vytal Tournament, and the fact that it’s really happening doesn’t mean that we don’t tell stories about it,” Rainbow replied. “Or else, why do people root for underdogs?” She paused, and then continued on more quietly. “Who is the hero, who is the villain, who is the underdog?”

To be honest I think it was a good thing that cardin didn’t talk to sky star: knowing her family I am worried that they would use weiss, cardin, flash etc past actions to make themselves look good. (Not sky star fault but she really shouldn’t let other’s influence her decisions)

Granted what they did in the past wasn’t right but letting this fester until it gets out of control is just wrong.

I guess what I am trying to say in a way sky star became no different then cardin in a sense: instead of giving a speech of peace she let hate fester for petty nonsense.

Maybe I am overthinking it but it is starting to look like how vol 3 endgame is shaping up.

I think you're being kind of harsh on Skystar's family here, they don't really care about 'making themselves look good'.

Okay, having thought about that for a second more, Novo certainly cared about making herself look good, but she's a politician so that's to be expected (and even then you have to moderate it, remembering that she could have spilled Sunset's secret about the Breach but didn't). But Silverstream and Terramar don't seem much bothered by that kind of thing.

A better reason for Cardin not to talk to Skystar is that he doesn't have any right to ask her for favours.

What Cardin did was not as bad as it was made enough, he's not actually a genocidal racist like Sunset made him out to be in that recording (or, as it might be said, the way he willingly made himself out to be in a misguided attempt to goad Blake into doing something she'd regret later) but he still lied to Skystar, he still pretended to be somebody and something that he wasn't, and that means that he doesn't get to play the victim and he doesn't get to ask her for favours like helping Weiss out of a tricky spot.

And all that is without the question of what Skystar could realistically do. The role of Amity Princess is, on the one had, kind of political, since it represents a festival that has an innately political dimension, but on the other hand it's also just a glorified announcer role, she's there to look pretty and tell everyone whose fighting in the tournament, her main actual jobs went on behind the scenes during Volume 2 when she was organising everything. So, and this is one of the reasons they didn't pursue the idea, I'm not sure how much Skystar coming out and asking everyone to give peace a chance would have really helped.

Not to mention, while Weiss herself is blameless and didn't deserve for Sabine to get up on her high horse 'I'm here for all the faunus' as though Weiss is her father, the fact is that Sabine, and Team SABR, and everyone else do have valid things to be angry about. An executive of the SDC was running a faunus trafficking operation, holding faunus against their will and stealing their wages while she was at it, all under Jaques Schnee's nose. That's something that Sabine has a right to be angry about it, even if the ways in which she chooses to express that anger, at Rainbow Dash, at Weiss, are unhelpful.

All of which being said, and without any spoilers, you're not wrong about the end of the volume, or at least I don't think you are, if I'm understanding you right. But you'll just have to wait and see whether or not you are actually right.

#rwby #sapr fanfic #cardin winchester #skystar #weiss schnee #grooveguylove #answered

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lore-of-the-silvereyes-rwby · 2 years ago

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These may not line up as well to what you said but here is my response @bardock1991 please let me know what you think?

Thank you for clarification also when I was speaking about the if instead of when it is still up to debate on whether or not RWBY will end with a happy ending as it is still possible that Salem might win instead as well as it is possible to Stop Salem but not kill her at the moment just giving her a major set back

True that might be an over exaggeration but do you think RWBY or JNPR could do the same had they taken the Place and role of Oz instead?

I’ll talk about the truth stuff in a bit but here's a quick peak of that: Most of them didn’t need to know as they could do nothing about and in all honesty in hindsite they were pretty irrelevant

Okay first off your implying that Oz is both omnipresent and omniscience (AKA all knowing and everywhere) Oz is just one man confined in one body with the experiences from his past lives and is only aware of his immediate surroundings and he can’t know or be certain of the unpredictability of human nature aka he can’t see into the future and tell if someone is destined to become evil otherwise Ozpin wouldn’t have gotten Raven, Lionheart, or Ironwood involved in the first place if they were going to do more harm than good

Second yes its been at least a thousand years that the maidens have existed but keep in mind they didn’t become glorified keyes till the vaults were created around the same time as the academies were being created so the maiden vault key thing has been a thing for at least 70-80 years and if Freia is any example its only been a few generations of women subjected to that burden so to clarify the maidens were made to help the world (probably as a replacement for the SEWS if they were thought to be extinct) and no i'm not ignoring it but what exactly was he going to do? They needed reliable help and power that can be counted on than just a temporary and one off questionable power that will one day be gone

Third just like I said about the omnipresent and omniscient thing you speak as if Ozpin is can either single handedly take on all of the Beacon arc bad guys or that he should have been there during those events instead the main characters and remember Oz’s power is finite at this point so besides his standard aura and combat skills he can’t just waste what's left of his valuable magic on as Tyrian puts it; “PAWNS, and PLASTICS SOLDIERS” Ozpin at that point has to be pick and choose in what fights he has to part take in as well as what is needed in that fight.

Yes they are Freshman but except for Ruby they are freshman that have spent years either at combat schools(Yang), had private combat lessons(Weiss) and in blakes case years on the run fighting and stealing from the SDC and probably Atlas military and other armed defense forces during her time in the White Fang so do think of literally ¾ of team RWBY as by extension team JNPR as ignorant little kids as they were all 17 years old(considered a legal adult in some parts of the world as some go as low 16 worldwide) and spent years (excluding Jaune) training for so that they can enter beacon in the first place if they weren’t they would’ve been rejected. And Yes they may not have been to stop ALL of them but clearly they are able to thwart them and set back their plans if V2 was anything to go by

Clearly you don’t know a thing or 2 about both politics and bureaucracy as well as your under the impression that he was just like Ironwood aka that he has more power and authority than anyone else in Vale If being Headmaster of beacon is a council position like the other academies are than it should be self explanatory that Ozpin can’t just do anything he wants even if its just to stop a terrorist cell but he can’t checks and balances would keep him doing so and his overall status and position is to educate the next generation of huntsman, he really doesn’t have much a say domestic affairs because he is just one of many in a council government that likely do side against him on a regular basis that's why he turned a blind eye and approved RWBY’s assignment in Mt. Glenn and why the Council gave Ironwood the job of security for the Vytal festival and how he was utterly helpless as the council debate on whether or not he should be removed as headmaster of Beacon

Because he has no real authority other than what can legally be granted to him and just like I said in my last reblog he can’t predict the evil dark nature of people or be there to counter it

Okay you're either underestimating Roman’s intelligence as or overestimating Roman as a known threat that should be concerned and like I mentioned earlier but unless its under the table Ozpin has no authority or jurisdiction to send assets after Roman who as far as in the public eye is concerned, nothing but petty thief and thug that is stealing dust to most likely sell on the black market

Thank you for understanding why Oz couldn’t trust them and how that has affected his choices

Okay I’ll give you the promise one as that was more or less a breaking of his word but at the same time He really doesn't owe them the whole truth and they really are on a need to know basis after all you don’t see Privates demanding to know everything that the General knows even though they are the ones that are most likely die.

And yeah the train was definitely over the top but again knowing that would they have proceeded and even then its not like they had many options for travel otherwise they would have just bought a ship and flew to Argus instead but chances are the train was the only viable transport available that was mostly safe either way its a risk and time was of the essence the sooner they get to Atlas to lock away the relic the better. And the whole not telling them about the relic being a grimm attractor can possibly be summed up as don’t need to complicate the travel problem from Oz’s pov

And I only count 1 guy dying during all of that so correct me if i'm wrong but who else died?

Fair enough but why would this STUPID decision be the last straw? Because as far as I'm concerned this is the first of Ozpin’s knowingly kept secrets that screwed them over non of his other secrets did or put them in life threatening positions and even then this isn’t the first time they were in a train crash remember V2 that had nothing to do with Ozpin other that he gave them the opportunity to look into the lead that they already were following outside his help especially after how Blake rejected his help after he offered it because she thought she couldn’t help despite the fact that he knew Blake was an ex Terrorist and was well within his rights to turn in over to the police for her past crimes as an ex White Fang member (Sorry went a little off topic right there) So I really don’t see why you would think that is the final straw for them as if Ozpin had been purposely sending them on a long list of 8u11$#!7 that backfires seriously prior to V5 Ozpin had very little interactions and command over them and really all he did during those interactions was giving them advice and they did overall good

They are a LONG WAY from ever being considered EQUALS. Seriously the only one who would be considered an equal to Ozpin is Ruby but that's a whole other thing that probably deserves a discussion of its own

But i’m not sure where that idea that they should be equals to Oz but in retrospect Ozpin owed them nothing, besides Ruby every single one of the main characters are lucky punks that got involved through circumstances beyond their own understanding and the only reason why they still continue to be here is because of Ruby

Not because it the right thing to do or because it's for the greater good, no, It because of Ruby that they are still here since V5 and why they are involved in the plot up to V8

They are not here helping Ozpin stop Salem because they want to. They are here because that is what Ruby wants and to help solidify this point; in V5 at the reunion when Ozpin offers everyone the chance to walk away now while they still can notice how Yang is the only to stand and seems prepared to leave only for her to say “that if Ruby stays than I’ll stay because she knows what's right despite my own opinions”

This alone tells us the audience as well as Ozpin that Yang and probably everyone else would have left the first chance they got and that they are not as dedicated to stopping Salem had it not been for Ruby being present.

Had Ruby not been there, there’s a good chance that Yang and possibly the others would have left and not be involved in the plot up to V8 as they would have left and said screw you Oz I owe you nothing Ruby is the only reason why WBY and JNR got and still are involved with the conflict with Salem not because Ozpin begged them for their help but because Ruby volunteered for Oz without question or conditions asked

Take her away and everyone else would not have joined Ozpin and this is why Ozpin didn’t tell them $#!7 is because they don’t care as much as you or I would think

“The point of a Huntsmen is to help and save lives even if its at the cost of their own life They may die but their death ensures that others will live whether it be dozens, hundreds or just one person they are alive because of a huntsmen that laid down their life so others can live no matter what the cost or circumstances may be it their job to protect, fight and die if it means the innocent can live.”

Now after I said that do you think Yang, or Jaune or Blake and Weiss can do regardless of whether or not it had anything to do with either Salem or Oz?

And when I said that line I meant all of the people of Remnant and throughout its known and unknown history not the main characters, the people who despite living in a world that is full of dangers that are actively trying to kill them and having the tools and knowledge to defend themselves they still continue to harm one another, kill each other for petty reasons seek power at the cost of others and undo every step of peace and unity that Oz has done regardless of whether Salem was involved or not

The impact of truth upon rwby

Questions asked by @angstandhappiness

@iamafanofcartoons @sid471 @miki-13 @keyenuta @anthurak @bardock1991 @harostar @thegirlwholovespines

I would like to get your thoughts on these as well as they do pertain to similar subjects that we have talked about in the past.

What do you think of Ozpin’s choice on choosing Pyrrha to be the new Fall Maiden?

On paper it seems ideal but like any candidate chosen or given a job or task it’s the then and there do you see whether or not it was a good choice and selection to make that person the one for the job or in this case Pyrrha as the Fall Maiden.

Truth be told when Oz made this choice there is a very high possibility that he didn’t know Pyrrha as much as he needed to and this is due to Pyrrha herself.

Personally I think Pyrrha more or less was having the same problem as any teen that could have been resolved had she talked and shared her thoughts about it instead of bottling up her emotions and just going with the flow.

Had that been known chances are Ozpin wouldn’t have chosen her to have been the Fall maiden but in all honesty and truth there weren’t that many options if you had to choose a good natured candidate to be an all powerful elemental avatar so yeah on paper she seemed like an ideal choice but once you read in between the lines it’s a 50/50 gamble on whether or not it will pay off.

What is your opinion on Ozpin withholding the truth from his current allies of Salem’s true invulnerability and immortality?

First off she is not invulnerable, maybe fast healing but not invulnerable if V8 is proof of anything.

Second to answer this one I have to invoke the old question that Dr. Oobleck asked team RWBY; Why did they become Huntsmen and Huntressesin the first place?

Before Salem was even a thing to the main characters they seemed pretty ok spending their lives knowing they can never eradicate the Grimm so that does beg the question; What’s the difference between then and now?

All they know now is that the Grimm have a leader and that just like them they can never truly eradicate the threat of her but beyond that what has really changed?

Does knowing that you can never beat or kill the final boss that is actively trying to kill you, your friends and every defenseless innocent really going to discourage you from doing whatever you can to help hinder said enemy and defend everyone you care or will care for?

No unless you have resolved to continue on with the fight and endure knowing that you may not succeed, and that those of good may continue to fail for thousands of years after you but they will not stop. All it takes for evil to truly succeed is if good people do nothing.

Now why do I bring up this highly philosophical theory is because everything that I just said is what is more or less Ozpin’s resolve and why he didn’t share the truth about Salem’s immortality with his allies; They are not Heroes who joined him to counter Salem

Other than Ruby Rose every single one of Ozpin’s allies did not join his fight against salem because they were altruistic or charitable enough to lend a helping hand for the greater good, no just like their choice to be huntsmen and huntresses they are not in this fight because it’s the right thing to do, they are in it hoping that it will help serve their own personal needs and goals

In short the overall reason why Ozpin didn’t share the truth is because almost all of his allies are not true or real heroes that are on his side because it’s the right thing to do.

To help further explore this point here’s a list of goals and motives for some of Ozpin’s allies for either being huntsmen or being in this conflict and why they prove that they did not deserve the truth

These will also lead into the next question.

Team RWBY

Weiss;

Goal; redeem the Schnee family name & SDC.

Motive; prove that she is nothing like her father.

Why they didn’t deserve to know about salem’s immortality; All her efforts and goals are self serving and tend and will only benefit her so that she may not feel so guilty about being a rich girl with a monopoly on the words most relied and needed resource to survive on

Sidenote; I’m not familiar with the inner workings of shady corporations or questionable business practices but i’m pretty sure being a monster slayer is not going to expose and remove Jaques from power so can someone tell me why Weiss couldn’t have done a whistleblower operation or corporate espionage instead of becoming a Huntress because honestly besides the fame and notoriety I don’t think there was any legitimate reason for Weiss to be a huntress (Like do Huntsmen double as PI’s or something?)

Blake;

Goal; Faunus equality/ Making things right with her friends

Side note; not gonna lie I don’t even know what her goals are anymore as her character at this point has been reduced to a love interest for Yang

Motive; Better life for herself/ Redemption for being both an enabler and coward

Why they didn’t deserve to know about salem’s immortality; Just like Weiss, her goals and motives are also self serving in the sense that it opens more opportunities in life for blake as well as to put her mind at ease for being an ex terrorist as well as abandoning her friends and family in the past

Yang;

Goal; Find out why Raven abandoned her

Side note; Honestly this could have been resolved had anyone just told her that her mom was a psychopathic murderer who would rather kill than be part of a family

Motive; Besides knowing the truth for why Raven is awful she is also motivated by thrill seeking adventures and danger

Side note; there might be a bit of revenge and resentment added to her motives post V3 due to being framed losing her arm and being abandoned by almost everyone she had known

Why they didn’t deserve to know about salem’s immortality; Besides being the daughter of a person that uses Ozpin’s teachings and power for evil, Yang is another example of someone who only does things that benefit herself and could care less about what happens(not unlike Raven)

Sidenote; if V5 & V6 are anything they prove that Yang is more or less the first one to walk away, and doesn’t give a damn about the Salem conflict and will have left had Ruby not been there to stay.

Team JNPR

Jaune;

Goal; Become a Huntsmen to prove himself to his family and be a hero

Motive; apparently he is the family disappointment

Sidenote; Revenge for Pyrrah may be a motive post Fall of Beacon

Why they didn’t deserve to know about salem’s immortality; besides lying, cheating and forging transcripts to get into beacon Jaune is another example of a self serving huntsmen with the added bonus that he should never have been involved in the first place

Sidenote; I can’t say for certain why Ozpin allowed Jaune to continue as a student in Beacon with forged transcripts but I doubt a reincarnating benign with 1000+ years of experience wouldn’t recognize forgery so for the benefit of the doubt lets assume that Ozpin decided to go with a 50/50 gamble either A.) Jaune becomes a great huntsmen or B.) he dies either way Jaune got what he wanted and Ozpin wins.

Nora;

Goal; Be with Ren/ Find self worth independent from Ren(Later)

Motive; Not to be alone and abandoned again

Sidenote; V8 really gave Nora depth as a character as to be honest she more or less was a flat character

Why they didn’t deserve to know about salem’s immortality; Honestly besides Ruby, and Pyrrah Nora more or less had a decent 50/50 chance to have been involved in the Salem conflict however Nora Pre V6 wasn’t exactly the most reliable or secretive individual from Ozpin’s perspective and in all honesty had very little relevance or motive to be involved in the Salem conflict

Ren;

Goal; Become a Huntsmen

Sidenote; Possibly wanting to prevent others from having to lose what he had lost

Motive; Grief and anger from being orphaned by the Grimm

Sidenote; Basically he’s batman with the whole I am vengeance thing

Why they didn’t deserve to know about Salem’s immortality; If later volumes after V4 are anything Ren isn’t exactly one of the most emotionally stable people to trust as his character during the Atlas arc is more or less akin to a whiny emotional b!7(# while trying to be emo and besides that just like Nora he had very little relevance or motive to be part of the Salem conflict

And Yes even though it was a Grimm that orphaned Ren I doubt Salem sent the Knuckleleave just to orphan Ren and in truth the destruction of Kuroyuri is ore or less akin to that of a wild animal attack, just a random act of nature that serves no purpose

Other

Qrow

Goal; Find friendship and protect the only real family he has left

Motive; Self worth and loneliness

Why they didn’t deserve to know about salem’s immortality; Besides the fact that originally he was to use Ozpin’s teachings as a huntsmen to rob and kill innocent people

Ironwood

Goal; Ensure Atlas(the source of his power) is absolute and will endure

Motive; Obtaining power to feed his ego and hero complex

Why they didn’t deserve to know about salem’s immortality; to put it in short Ironwood only ever say the Salem conflict as a opportunity to increase Atlesian influence and superiority as well as a means to increase his own rule and power and being the opposite of everything that Ozpin stood for and tried to achieve

Sidenote; Ozpin wasn’t about seizing power or creating an unchallenged rule or seeking glory. Ozpin was doing what was best to help guide and nurture the good for the people of remnant, not to rule or control them with little care like Ironwood did.

Sidenote; I’ve done an entire analysis series on Ironwood explaining why

As you can see a majority of Ozpin’s allies really shouldn’t have been involved in the first place due to just what kind of people they are and probably still are by the time of the show’s present. But due to circumstances and the choices of a few people they are involved do to either need or accident regardless of who they are and what they hope to achieve which is enough just cause and reason for why Ozpin didn’t tell them about Salem’s immortality

Because it was none of their business and by far beyond any of their capabilities combined as in truth the conflict with Salem is truly only Oz’s. Those are my reasons why none of these people were told the truth about Salem’s immortality as well as why they didn’t need or deserve to know as well. With that I’ll be moving on to the next question.

How do you think he should have told them, and when?

I just gave a whole lot of reasons why they shouldn’t have been told and if you noticed Ruby isn’t apart of that list because out of all Oz’s allies I do see Ruby as being the first if only person that Ozpin would have told the truth about Salem’s immortality because unlike the others her goals and motives aren’t self serving or a means to an end.

Ruby is content with being a huntress and is more or less willing to spend her days as one knowing she will die but still helps people along the way regardless of what the situation is or what the outcome will be.

But if Oz had to tell them it would probably have happened after they secured the relic in Atlas first and probably before Ironwood’s descent into warmongering which lead to his eventual insanity in V8.

But that is besides the point, for you see this conflict with Salem is and always has been Oz’s problem and his problem only and everyone else could only really do is lend a helping hand and nothing more. Because of the sad truth and reality, what can they do? It doesn’t matter if they are all powerful, if all the grimm are extinct or if the world is under their control. Salem and Oz are basically timeless beings now and everyone around them will die and everything they have achieved will be undone one way or another.

And even then Defeating and Killing Salem is not the end goal of Oz’s mission. Salem may be the biggest obstacle at the moment but her being out of the picture doesn’t mean or guarantee that things will be better for everyone.

Regardless of whether or not the main cast succeed and defeat Salem and she finally dies, Oz will still be there, once all of RWBY & JNR die Oz will still be there, and in in either hundred or a thousand years later after all of this Oz will still be there and will still be there after until he either succeeds in his mission in uniting Remnant in peace or until the Ozma soul has become so stretched and diminished to the point that the soul may no longer be able to reincarnate and eventually fade away into non existence. No afterlife, no heaven or hell, no rest just gone.

It’s a sad but likely outcome for Oz because the story of the show and overall conflict with Salem isn’t a tale about power or dominance or about hope and fellowship.

It is a tale about, Human evil and all that it encompasses which leads to the consequences that is the overall theme between Salem and Oz and those that become involved; A tale of Death and the desire for deathlessness.

For better or worse or for good or evil, all thing must come to an end in order for the tale to progress and move forward otherwise the great old tales will never end and history repeats itself and were back at square one

These are my thoughts to these questions let me know what you think?

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greatwyrmgold · 2 years ago

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Caught up on Ice Queendom (again), and...is it just me, or is Nega-Blake mostly winning her argument with Nega-Weiss? Nega-Blake keeps explaining all the reasons the faunus have to distrust/hate humanity in general and Weiss in specific, but all Weiss can say is "I didn't personally do any of that, don't take it out on me!"

I kinda wish Blake actually countered that point, though. There are lots of options, from "You're still benefiting from the continued exploitation of faunus!" to "What else are we supposed to do? Nobody else is going to fight for us!" to "Do you expect me to dig up the corpse of Big Nicholas to punish him for his crimes?"

But even without that...I love how Ice Queendom is focusing less on the White Fang's terrorism than on the genuine injustices that it's a reaction towards. You could argue that that's just because it's Weiss's story, but...no? Both sides of that conflict are equally part of Weiss's story. The only reason that the injustices faunus face are given more focus than their terrorism is that the narrative considers a few wrecked trains less important than the oppression of an entire ethnic group.

There are quite a few reasons I hope Toshimasa Suzuki, Kenjirou Okada, Tow Ubukata, and everyone on the Ice Queendom team that Wikipedia doesn't mention in the sidebar keep remaking RWBY under the guise of telling side stories. Their treatment of the White Fang is a big one! I could see it falling into the same traps Original RWBY did with regard to the White Fang, but things are looking promising so far!

(I also like the detail that faunus were forced to fight Grimm to defend the human upper class. I don't recall anything like that being mentioned in Original RWBY, but it's a neat idea.)

Other random thoughts:

The use of splitscreen shots is a neat aesthetic touch. It would be weird if just one episode or some scattered scenes were like that, but Ice Queendom uses them enough that it feels like a deliberate artistic choice.

Not sure how to feel about Grandpa Nick's presentation. On one hand, it makes sense that Weiss remembers him as a kindly old philanthropist. On the other hand, he built a company renowned for its exploitation of faunus workers, and that's not something that just springs out of nowhere. I don't feel like the Big Nicholas looming over the story gets enough focus to say anything as nuanced as "He was nice to his family but callous towards others"; it kinda comes off as suggesting that Jacques was a bad apple, and the SDC just needs the right Schnee plutocrat in charge. I feel like the best solution to this would have been to let Nicholas fade into the background. (For instance, cutting that dream-flashback-thing where Weiss talks with her grandpa, and replacing it with a conversation she has with some present-tense character. Maybe she could cover some of those points in that conversation she has with Ruby?)

Revealing that Ruby has some special anti-Grimm power in her eyes before it's absolutely plot-critical is a good idea! The implementation is weird, though. Ruby has her epiphany, her moment of triumph; then the Nightmare suddenly restrains her after being shot a bunch; then Ruby's eyes give her a different moment of triumph, one that feels a bit less earned.

The Silver Eyes also prove that the IQ team is, on some level, preparing to do an Ice Queendom sequel if it's greenlit. There is no reason for that double-reversal-of-fortune ex machina unless it's establishing the Silver Eyes as something Important and Magic.

Jaune defeating Weiss's internal image of her abusive father feels like it's symbolically significant, but damned if I could say what it means! He did it with the help of Silly!Pyrrha and the Silly!Weisses, the latter of which definitely represent the childlike parts of Weiss that she locks away under her icy facade, but I'm still not sure what the former means, symbolically.

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itsclydebitches · 3 years ago

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re: that ask you posted a couple days ago about the male and female representation in RWBY, part of what makes RWBY's whole 'girl power' thing ring exceptionally hollow to me is the fact that there are like... no women in positions of real power in remnant. like at all. except the big bad.

winter is second in command to james. glynda is second in command to ozpin. all of the headmasters are men (for no discernible reason, imo; why theodore and not dorothea?). the leader of the ace ops was a white man (and then winter seemed to take over clover's position instead of either of the women of color on the team, and she was still second to james). RWBY is an all girl team, but JNPR was led by a boy despite a girl arguably being far more qualified (pyrrha). the happy huntresses are all women, and robyn had no real power to speak of--she didn't even manage to win the election, because jacques rigged it, and then the council ceased to matter. there was one (1) woman on the council, but she was so inconsequential that i can't even remember her name. (i suppose we're lucky it was the guy and not her who james shot lol) jacques controls the SDC instead of willow, even though he's not even a schnee by blood and actually married into the family for power. (and we don't even know how he got it over his wife.)

and then there's the white fang, which ghira led and not kali--and it's ghira who leads menagerie itself, while kali seems to be a housewife. sienna had five minutes of screentime before being brutally killed and her position assumed by adam, a man. cordovin is basically a one off lackey we haven't even thought about before or since. neo was second to roman. you have cinder, sure, who is a second but to salem, a woman, and raven as the leader of the branwen tribe--but what does it really say about your 'girl power' narrative when the only women with genuine systemic power in your world are villains or antagonists with massive bodycounts??

atla has the same sort of problem--a couple great female characters, but all the leadership positions are men (except the kyoshi warriors, an all girls group, and even then the leader of their island is an old man) and the one female mentor figure also turns out to be evil--but it at least has some great writing to help overlook that fact, and it came out in the mid-00's and so has some sort of excuse of being a product of its time. but rwby didn't even start until 2013 and it's still going and still making these kinds of decisions well into 2021.

where is this supposed girl power, exactly? am i really supposed to overlook the very patriarchal worldbuilding just because the title characters are girls?

That's an excellent summary of the situation, anon, and as with so much in RWBY, it comes down to the full context. Any one of these examples isn't necessarily going to mean much on its own. It's when you look at the pattern that you can start making a case for those conclusions: Why is the show marketed on "girl power" set in a world where men hold the vast majority of that power? And, more importantly, why is that setup not the point? We could easily have a story where that lopsided gender dynamic is the problem that the girls are looking to fix, but... that story doesn't exist. Like the problems discussed with Jaune, the supposed point here exists only on the surface. Dig just the tinniest bit — the above — and you hit on a lot of structural problems with this "girl power" world.

To add just a few details to what you've already said:

Salem indeed has power, but she's never allowed to fully use it. Each volume the frustration with this grows as Salem accumulates more abilities and then just sits on them. From literally hiding out for a thousand years to worries that she won't use the Staff in Volumes 9-10, Salem really isn't allowed to be the threat she's presented as on the surface. And yes, this is absolutely due in part to the "She's too OP and the writers don't know how to let her be that powerful while still having the heroes win" issue, but again, context. That problem doesn't exclude others occurring simultaneously.

Same double explanation with Summer. Yes, dead moms are an incredibly common trauma to dump on a protagonist, but it still left Yang and Ruby with Tai as their primary influence. And Qrow. The uncle becomes the extended family influence while Raven is the absent one/eventual antagonist. It's personal power as opposed to political power, but Tai, Qrow, Ozpin, formerly James... most of the mentors are men. Maria, a key exception, has been ignored in that regard. The story announced that she was Qrow's inspiration, setup her being Ruby's new mentor, and then... nothing. Nothing has come of that. She disappeared for a volume and then went off to Amity and was literally forgotten by the story when evacuating everyone was the finale's whole point.

Like that Endgame moment I mentioned, the Happy Huntresses feel a little too forced to me. Yes, it's the same basic idea as in ATLA, but ATLA, as you say, has a lot more going for it. The Happy Huntresses feel... on the nose? Idk exactly how to explain it. Like, "Here they are! Another team of all women! Isn't this how progressive storytelling works? Just ignore how this is a one-off team of minor characters compared to the world building issues discussed above." And if you're not paying attention, you miss just how insignificant they are, with a side of Robyn being, well, Robyn. The Kyoshi Warriors, at least, are based off of Kyoshi. A woman avatar who is a significant part of their history. That is, presumably, why they're an all women warrior group (but who notably still teach Sokka). The Happy Huntresses are all huntresses because...? There's no reason except that meta "We want to look progressive" explanation. Just like having all the women superheroes team up for a hot second so people get excited and ignore the representation problems across, what? 21 films? Don't get me wrong, I love that May is among the Happy Huntresses. I think including her in the explicitly all-women group was one of the better things RWBY has done in a long time, but the rest is still a mess.

RWBY is arguably about these smaller groups as opposed to systematic power (despite the writers trying to work that in with things like the White Fang and the election. Not to mention the implication that everything in Atlas is fine now that evil Ironwood has died and taken the symbol of wealth (the city) with him. We saw a human holding hands with a faunus after all. Racism and corruption solved, I guess.) So yes, our group is dominated by women... but Whitley is the one saving Nora, helping to defeat the Hound (plus Willow), thinking of the airships, and providing the blueprints they need to escape. Salem is our Big Bad, except Ironwood is the one the volume focuses on. Ruby is our leader, but Jaune is the one leading the group into the whale and getting praised for how heroic he is. Ren does more to shake things up, even if he's painted as the one in the wrong. Oscar gets to confront Salem and destroys the whale threat. Ozpin provides the information they need to evacuate. Meanwhile, when the girls do things in Volume 8 it's almost always followed by a long-stint of passiveness. Nora opens the door so she can be unconscious for most of the volume. Penny keeps Amity up so she can also be unconscious for a good chunk of time. Ruby sends her message and then sits in a mansion. Blake fights so she can tearfully beg Ruby to save her. Weiss, as said, takes a backseat to Whitley (and Klein). They forward the plot, absolutely, but comparatively it doesn't feel like enough.

It's that pattern then, no one specific example. More and more the personal power, not just the systematic power already built into Remnant, seems to be coming from the men. Not all the time, but enough that scenes like the tea drinking moment feel like a part of a much larger problem. Pietro taking control, Watts hacking, and Ambrosius literally remaking her when Penny is supposed to already be in control of herself and her fate. Winter being presented as the active mentor to Weiss, only to turn around and claim that Ironwood was actually responsible for everything. Ruby, Weiss, Blake, and May straight up commenting on how awful things are out there while Yang, Jaune, Ren, and Oscar lead the charge against Salem — with the latter three doing the most to forward that mission (no fear, semblance, cane). As others have only half-joked, Yang's supposedly badass moment was bringing up a mother she's ignored for six volumes and briefly blowing up the immortal woman for a couple of seconds (with Ironwood's bombs). Even Marrow is arguably the most significant Ace Op after Clover. Vine isn't actually a character, Elm slightly less so, Harriet is there to go crazy and try to drop a bomb (notably before admitting to never-before-existed feelings for Clover), but Marrow? He's the one who breaks out. Who is meant to heroically stand up against Ironwood. Who comments on how awful it is that teenagers are fighting and, regardless of how messed up the moral messages are, is supposedly pushing for active change while all the women in his group, including Winter, insist on maintaining the status quo. Look at all these choices as a whole, it makes throwaway worldbuilding choices like "All the Maidens are women" feel pretty hollow. Why does it matter if Amber is a Maiden if she dies in a flashback so Ozpin can struggle to pass on the power? If Pyrrha dies before becoming one so Jaune can angst about it? If Raven is one and then disappears from the story entirely? If Winter has enough power to break Ironwood's aura, but supposedly had no power throughout every other choice she made getting here? If Penny is one, but is continually controlled by men and then asks another man to help her die? It's just really unconvincing, once you look past the surface excitement of a woman looking cool with magic powers.

When you do consider the whole of the story — both in terms of our world building and who is forwarding the plot in the latter volumes, getting the emotional focus, being proactive, etc. — there are a lot of problems that undermine the presumed message RT wants to write. They say, "girl power" by marketing RWBY with these four women, but too many of the storytelling decisions thoroughly undermine that, revealing what's likely a deeply ingrained, subconscious bias.

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ironwoodprotectionsquad · 3 years ago

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Penny being trans + autistic coded made me resonate with her as I am nonbinary and autistic myself. Her being a robot felt like me when I have to hide my neurodivergent traits. Her getting confirmation that she wasn't just a robot/machine but a real girl felt so validating. I don't have to look like everyone else to still be considered "real".

Ironwood's semblance being literal hyperfixiation, something I've dealt with since I have ADHD + autism would have made me feel better about myself. This is a man who, despite everything: his PTSD, being an amputee, still was a kind-hearted man. This is something rarely seen in media. I was happy.

Then they fucked up both Penny and Ironwood in ways that struck me. Penny is hacked into and forced to comply with basically forced suicide- she was to open the vault, then self-destruct.

Ironwood, oh dear god. They couldn't wait to fuck him over. He was so HAPPY to see team RWBYJNROQ. He told them everything about his plan, trusting them with literal GOVERNMENT secrets, giving them a place to stay, FREE weapon upgrades (Atlas is known for its advanced technology), hell even gave them their HUNTRESS LICENSES THREE-ISH YEARS EARLY (which Ruby later uses as a credibility source in her broadcast, which was eerily similar to Cinder's in Volume 3, when she says IRONWOOD CANNOT BE TRUSTED.)

Not to mention that she conveniently forgot she was calling for help from OTHER KINGDOMS. OF COURSE they wouldn't arrive soon enough. And no one had reason to trust her. She's a nobody. She was at the Vytal Festival and her team made it all the way to the singles? Cool. Ruby wasn't the final fighter, hell after the 4 vs 4 match she didn't compete further.

Blake would have obviously been a bad choice: she's a faunus and if anyone knows about the White Fang, they might recognize her.

Yang is more known than Ruby, but the world saw her kick an unarmed teen in the finals round. She doesn't have too good a reputation.

Weiss? She's well known as the Heiress, but also her singing. Having her give the speech is a mixed bag: on one hand, she's a recognizable face. On the other, that's a problem. Her father, the CEO of the SDC, is known for his cruelty. Blake said it herself way back in Volume 1: questionable business practices and partners.

So... How about no broadcast at all? What did her broadcast accomplish?

Nothing. Help didn't arrive and likely caused more panic. Plus, people still had a negative view of Atlas, as the last thing the world saw was Atlesian soldiers turning against civilians.

The last broadcast was before Beacon fell. So likely another hacker giving a message would be met with fear.

And what attracts Grimm? Negativity.

Ruby's broadcast could have been a DEATH SENTENCE to so many. But no, this is treated as the... Right course of action?

Ruby and co. hates Ironwood's plan, yet it's clear they don't have one. RWB spends a lot of time moping around the manor drinking tea. Team YOJR (Yang, Oscar, Jaune and Ren) actually DO SOMETHING. Oscar gets kidnapped and they chase after him. Ren rightfully points out that NONE OF THEM SHOULD BE DOING THIS. But that goes against the Hivemind™, so he must apologize and agree to whatever the fuck Ruby decides to do.

Which is NOTHING! RWBY didn't even take down the hound: WILLOW and WHITLEY did. A drunk woman and an unarmed teen defeated it.

Oscar is the one who blows up the whale (with his time bomb? huh??)

Ruby whines that it's all too much, cries on a staircase while her sister (remember that Ruby and Yang are related????) comforts her. The scene has no emotional depth because the two barely interact anymore.

OH GOD AND WHEN YANG TAKES A HIT FROM NEO THAT WAS MEANT FOR RUBY IT TAKES HER OUT COMPLETELY. AURA? GONE. HELL, SHE'S EVEN UNCONSCIOUS. I swear it's like the animation budget could only afford to have ONE character react, and it's Blake "sad kitty face" Belladonna. Not Ruby, who is her sister. WHO HAS A SPEED SEMBLANCE. But no, they just watch her fall, not knowing if she's alive.

Ruby has more of a reaction to CRESCENT ROSE, HER FUCKING WEAPON falling.

Which is retconned so hard in the Vol 9 trailer, where she tells Neo "I hope it was worth it" before falling into the void. Huh??

Anyways I'm rambling again but I am so angry!

-🎼

Never, ever, EVER apologize for rambling. I LOVE hearing peoples thoughts and sometimes it's a really nice feeling to let out your frustrations and anger towards something that has caused you harm and it really REALLY sounds like this caused you a lot of harm and so I do not blame you one bit for being hurt and angry. I should apologize for this taking so long. This was a lot and I needed to sort my thoughts and even so I probably missed some points so I also apologize for that.

Penny and Ironwoods biggest mistake was trusting and being kind to RWBY. They lied and betrayed James and treated him like garbage even though he showed them nothing but kindness and did whatever he could to help them and listened to them. Penny was told what to do and think far more so then James ever supposedly did. Ruby decided to give her a new body, decided she didn't like how James was treating her and that she thought James was a bad person, and decided that Penny was better off with them. Penny stopped being able to make her own decisions once she started hanging out with RWBY and co.

Really though what did they all think was going to happen when they sent out a message that matched beat to bear a lot of what Cinder said before Atlas fell? Did she think about the panic that would cause? Did she forget she was worried about Ironwood telling everyone back in Volume 7 because of the panic it would cause everyone??? Did that just conveniently slip her mind?

I honestly think Weiss would have been the best choice to give the broadcast of them all but I don't think they should have sent out the broadcast in the first place. It should realistically only cause panic and death but the narrative is gonna yadda yadda right past all of that.

Oh god yea RWBY and co complain and whine and scream that Ironwoods plan is bad whilst offering up no alternatives then just taking his plan and acting like it was theirs the whole time. They even did this in Volume 7 when in episode 2 they where worried about James telling Atlas about Salem and then turning around and acting all happy and shocked when James told everyone near the end of the season as if they wanted him to the whole time and not the other way around.

Man RWBY really did jack shit all volume huh? As you said all the major things side characters did: Fight James TWICE: Winter, Emerald, and JNRO.

Try and rescue Oscar: JRY

Blow up the Whale: Oscar

"Redeem" Hazel and Emerald: Again Oscar

Defeat the hound: Whitley and Willow

Launch the tower: Penny

Help defend Mantel against the swarm of Grimm: FNKI and the soldiers that all died trying to buy Ruby time while she cries in a mansion.

Like what does this girl do to help any of the people SHE trapped???

Oh god Ren, poor Ren, he's finally seeing the light but he can't stray from the Hivemind so he needs to get back in, we can't question the pure and perfect Ruby her plans are always right even if it causes Salem to get two relics and destroys the only kingdom with an army or the technology to restore global communications in the process.

Yea you're right like CRWBY can make excuses all day for why Ruby didn't react to Yang falling and MAYBE I can buy her not using her Semblance because she's in shock but not crying or reacting at ALL to her supposed death?? Why does her weapon get a more emotional response then her SISTER? Why is only BLAKE allowed to be sad about Yang supposedly dying? Why does fucking WINTER have more of a reaction to her sister dying?

Why are all the people we are supposed to be rooting for so fucking unlikeable???

#RWDE #Pro Ironwood #James Ironwood #RWBY Bashing #Pro James Ironwood #ironwood Protection Squad #penny polendina #Sorry for MY rambling #and more rambling to come most likely

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skye-huntress · 2 years ago

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RWBY Ice Queendom Reaction

Episode 11: “Light in Shadows”

There is so much I love about this episode

Let’s start with Negative Weiss’ moment of clarity. What a lot of people might initially miss about Weiss, especially in her early verbal clashes with Blake, is that as much as she hates the White Fang and is distrustful towards Faunus, she is fully aware of why they would hate the SDC and her family. More importantly, it was always Weiss’ intention to take control of her family’s company from father and reform it. Her ultimate goal was always to help the Faunus regardless of the crimes of the White Fang. Nega-Blake throwing the flaws of the SDC in Nega-Weiss’ face helped her recall this goal but in doing so created contradictions in the narratives within the dream. It gave Nega-Weiss a sense of awareness to the true nature of what was going on.

So it seems I got Weiss’s line to Ruby mixed up, the Grimm hides itself in the shadow of the person facing it. If Ruby were to cut away the vines surrounding the piece of Weiss’ heart, the light from it will create a shadow which is the direction Crescent Rose’s barrel will be facing. Altering the weapon the way she did was Weiss’s attempt to tell Ruby how to kill the Grimm.

With her Semblance, Yang is the heaviest hitter of Team RWBY, but because of how it works she really has to pick her moment when to use it. Punching a giant sentient building in the face seems like as good a time as any.

I never realised how much I wanted to see Nicholas and Weiss together until I got it. To see him to inspire Weiss to protect the people and those precious to her is everything to me. It also gives clarity to why Weiss’ dream was built the way it is.

Moving on to Jaune, lifting that sword is well beyond what he is capable of right now, but just like when he killed that Ursa Major, he doesn’t need to do all by himself. One thing that Weiss learned from Pyrrha is to support your friends when they need a little help.

I was a little concerned that seeing “Big Nicholas” crumble would negatively affect Nega-Weiss, but she was still set on helping Blake even as her Negative side was trying to kill her.

So we did indeed get a silver eyed moment, and based on how we know it works, it was Ruby’s desire to save Weiss that did the trick. By the looks of it, she did so much damage to it that the Grimm died when it couldn’t find a new host to sustain it.

So now we’re back to the moment Weiss fell asleep, but instead of seeing a manifestation of her Nightmare self, she sees Ruby. Weiss always wanted a bunk bed because she wanted to be closer to her siblings, to anyone really. She had the largest family of everyone in her team, but she grew up feeling alone, until she finally found her bunkmate in Ruby.

No fake out this time, Ruby finally gets to hug Weiss for real, at least as real as you can in a dream world.

So even though Weiss’s subconscious was able to resist the dream and even communicate directly with Ruby, Weiss’ conscious mind is just completely confused. Despite how active our brains can be when we sleep and dream, we rarely remember anything when we wake up.

One nightmare down, now they have to deal with the one they intentionally set free. So we got our Ruby vs Weiss fight before, now prepare for Yang vs Blake!

Yang pulling Blake out of her Nightmare makes me happy. White Rose and Bees shippers have been fed this episode.

There is no way we can have a final battle in RWBY without Team RWBY all fighting together. You simply can’t do it any other way.

So the piece of Blake’s heart was the original White Fang flag, the one that represents a hope that humans and Faunus can live and work together for a better world. It’s so appropriate for her.

I notice this Nightmare didn’t seem to die even with all the attacks it suffered and how little it was able to feed compared to Weiss’s Nightmare. Just proves how powerful and effective the silver eyes can be.

So now the reunion with Jaune, Pyrrha and the little Weissies. Seems Weiss was still waking up so to speak because she still hasn’t realised what’s going on.

You know, I was so worried for a safety, even though obviously she was always going to survive, I failed to considered that the real damage has already been done. Unfortunately, Weiss is eternally mortified. I fear she may never recover. I think anybody would feel the same, it’s just that Jaune is probably used to the feeling by now.

So we now have the last episode appropriately sharing the name with Volume 2’s first episode. We’re most definitely going to get the food fight, but that won’t cover the entire episode, so we’ll likely get a lot of other team bonding moments. I’m hoping for at least one more one-on-one with White Rose and the Bees each. I need it. In fact, I demand it after Shaft traumatised and humiliated my favourite RWBY girl.

#RWBY #RWBY IQ #RWBY IQ spoilers

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texanredrose · 3 years ago

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Okay, to put some limitations on this, I’m only including the WIPs that I’ve done more than a synopsis for... that I can remember... that’s on Google Drive... that I actually think I might post one day... but haven’t posted yet because my posted WIPs are fairly easy to identify... okay... I got tagged by @unsteadyshade and I’m tagging @faunusrights and @alexlayer69

1) Across Time - Inuyasha AU where Weiss gets thrown back in time to the ancient past, where she meets two demons (Yang and Blake) warring against each other over a misunderstanding.

2) Alpha’s Devotion - Omega’s Strength, but from Winter’s POV.

3) Bears, Oh My - An exhausted Winter, lost on a hike, comes across a cabin where Yang lives with her three pet bears.

4) Brave New World - Continuation of the Dishonored AU where Ruby and Winter reflect on the new Mantle.

5) Bruised - Third installment to the ace!Yang AU.

6) Coming Home - Based on Dash’s Tiny Knight AU, Princess Blake is betrayed and stranded far from home and must rely on a reticent knight named Weiss to return to her kingdom.

7) Complications Always Arise - Papa Schnee is demanding Weiss marry before he’ll allow her to take his place as head of the SDC, so Yang volunteers to pretend to be Weiss’ beloved. No one else knows the relationship is fake, least of all Blake and Winter, and it’s just a bunch of pain.

8) Divided - Continuation of the By Moonlight AU where Whitley returns to the castle and Winter’s not upset by that- and Winter’s upset by the fact she’s not upset and has to figure out why her inner wolf is cool with this when she should, by all rights, be furious.

9) Dragonsbane - Mage Knight Winter hears tale of a dragon in the countryside that the local villages wish to see vanquished. Winter, however, has other plans.

10) Eye of the Beholder - Blinded and near death after a battle, Winter is rescued by the mysterious Yang and is nursed back to health despite her protests otherwise. (It’s a Medusa!AU.)

11) Fabled - Fable 3 AU where Princess Ruby and Princess Yang are forced to confront the fact that Queen Raven has lost her fucking mind, only to discover that fear drove the woman insane- a fear they must confront themselves.

12) Fields of Love - Farmer Yang offers a job and housing to apparent single mother Winter and her young daughter Penny. What starts as a kind gesture grows into something so much more.

13) Full Circle - Van Helsing (2004) AU, Winter and Weiss, amnesiacs employed by the church to handle all manner of unholy problems, are sent to discover what happened to King Taiyang. Along the way, they become wrapped up in a centuries spanning prophecy and a bloodline hanging in the balance.

14) High Bar, Low Blow - Yang owns a bar where the gimmick is that everyone’s an out of work actor and the staff is staging an ongoing drama on par with a soap opera to keep their customers coming back. Winter joins the staff and then things get a bit real.

15) Hoodlums and Hijinks - Robin Hood AU where Princess Winter and Princess Weiss are just as in favor for overthrowing the king as the group of bandits run by Ruby, Yang, and Blake.

16) Last One 2: Electric Boogaloo (title subject to change) - a sequel to Last One where the haunt continues.

17) Lexical Access - Sequel to Tip of the Tongue, where Yang gives her girlfriend a bit of roleplaying payback.

18) Little Red - Carmen Sandiego AU where Ruby was kidnapped adopted by a group of thieves and raised to become the world’s greatest thief, but a chance meeting with Penny via a stolen phone opens her eyes to the wider world, and she meets the rebellious heiress Weiss, street smart Blake, and brawler Yang, creating a team that works to foil Ruby’s former friends while eluding capture by mysterious operatives with a somewhat familiar white color scheme...

19) Long Term Investment - Yang, a fae who lives in the woods, makes a deal with Princess Winter to save the Queen. The price? Winter’s firstborn. Winter misunderstands how she’s expected to get pregnant and Yang’s never actually intended to collect. Next thing Yang knows, Winter’s moving into the clearing beside her tree home.

20) Miscalculation - Another Omegaverse AU where Weiss is an omega and Blake and Yang are alphas, except Weiss lied and said she was an alpha when enrolling in Beacon and now she’s locked in a room with Blake and Yang on the verge of starting her heat. Sharing is caring.

21) More Than Words Can Say - Winter, rendered mute by a military accident early in her career, is honestly the best girlfriend Yang’s ever had. However, tonight’s the night they’ve decided to get intimate, and that includes showing some scars that they don’t show often. It’s less about sex and more about trust and intimacy.

22) Music of the Night - Phantom of the Opera AU where the mysterious, disfigured shade of the opera house, Weiss, finds herself at odds with the rich, jovial Yang in a competition for Blake’s heart. Then there’s Adam being a dick, too, and the opera house has never seen so much drama.

23) My Heart Will Go On - It’s the Titanic, but double the rich, unwilling-to-marry ladies and triple the won-a-ticket-to-a-ship ruffians. Penny’s there too; she, like Ruby, just really likes ships.

24) One Fucking Favor - Winter’s due for a long assignment and wants to make a sex tape for stress relief purposes. Yang doesn’t ask questions; she’s just the one with the camera. But then, Winter’s partner for the vid doesn’t show up. What’s Yang going to do about it?

25) Prophecy - Star Wars AU where Ruby, Yang, and Blake are trained as Jedi, Winter and Weiss are part of the clone army, and Ruby’s the chosen one. That’s a lot of pressure to put on someone, but Senator Salem is there to lend a helping hand...

26) Propositioned - Faunus experience bouts of heat; sometimes, they can safely ignore it and go about their lives, but every now and again, they really can’t. Concerned for Blake’s health as she’s skipped too many heats to be healthy, Yang sets up a partner for Blake’s heat. Blake’s not a fan but she does like the idea of banging Weiss Schnee.

27) Proven - ARK: Survival Evolved AU where Winter, after being ‘won’ by Yang, is taken into the bowels of the earth to learn how the underground tribes who inhabit the area survive in such an unforgiving environment. As she acclimates to the tribe’s ways, she finds herself carving out her own path, culminating in facing off against the Queen and proving herself worthy.

28) Reaping What You Sow - When Winter escaped to the countryside with Penny to start a farm, she knew she had her work cut out for her. In need of help and facing a harsh cold season, she hires Yang, a one armed drifter, to help her. The two end up needing the other more than they could’ve imagined.

29) Tear My Heart Open - Blake thought she understood how the world worked. As a member of the White Fang Gang, all she needed to do was keep everyone motivated to continue their ongoing street war against the police and authorities bent on keeping them down. But while running from the cops, she’s offered sanctuary in the home of one Weiss Schnee and her girlfriend, Yang. From there, her perception of the world is completely upended.

30) The Duel - After her father offered her hand in marriage to the winner of a tournament, Winter opted to assume a disguise and fight for the prize herself. In the final match, she faces Yang Xiao Long, a competitor she’s come to know quite well, and she finds her conviction to win wavering slightly. Is it enough to lose her the fight?

31) The Lies We Tell Ourselves - Weiss has made it; she’s opened her tattoo shop in Vale, well away from her father, and aside from a bad first impression with the florists across the parking lot, everything’s looking up for her- until her father finds her. Luckily, Blake’s been through some shit and doesn’t mind helping Weiss drive daddy dearest up the wall, even if it means letting her own parents think she’s dating Weiss. It’s not like either of them is going to catch feelings... unless...

32) The Princess’ Bride - After losing her fiancée to the dreaded White Fang Pirates, Yang vows to take to the sea herself and exact her revenge. Princess Weiss finds herself falling madly in love with Yang, who still loves Blake, and all this is thrown into even more chaos when Yang gets kidnapped and Blake comes back from the dead!

33) Two for One - Yes, another Omegaverse AU. Five years after the fall of Beacon, Yang and Blake cross paths, each believing the other has spent the time keeping their mutual mate, Weiss, safe. When they realize Weiss is with neither of them, old wounds are torn open, but before they can resolve their dispute, Winter captures the both of them and hauls them to a remote part of Atlas where an SDC facility has been turned into a fortress. There, they find a mortally wounded Weiss clinging to life and raising twins daughters; she gives her mates until her death to endear themselves to their children, else the twins might opt to stay with Winter and be kept from Blake and Yang for good. Between learning about their kids, Blake and Yang navigate their complicated feelings and try to reconnect with Weiss, all while a sinister force gathers to destroy the fortress and steal the prize within.

34) Weaknesses - Loosely set in the Glamour AU, Yang is being forced to assume her mother’s position as leader of their vampire coven. Her fellow vamps disapprove of Yang’s werewolf girlfriend. Winter, of course, doesn’t care.

I got lazy and cut a bunch out. No, fuck you, I don’t have too many AUs, I will add more if I want. Also, some of these, the first chapter is posted on my Patreon. Don’t ask me which ones; I genuinely have no idea. I’m bad at this, y’all.

#Me jokingly: I'll number them so I can prove I don't have too many!#Present me is pissed at past me #I just know someone's gonna come at me for this but whatever #I can't control the words they just come as they please

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