#noble savage trope

[jewish-microwave-laser]

And here is the most devastating fact of Frank's posthumous success, which leaves her real experience forever hidden: we know what she would have said, because other people have said it, and we don't want to hear it.

The line most often quoted from Frank's diary are her famous words, "I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart." These words are "inspiring," by which we mean that they flatter us. They make us feel forgiven for those lapses of our civilization that allow for piles of murdered girls—and if those words came from a murdered girl, well, then, we must be absolved, because they must be true. That gift of grace and absolution from a murdered Jew (exactly the gift that lies at the heart of Christianity) is what millions of people are so eager to find in Frank's hiding place, in her writings, in her "legacy." It is far more gratifying to believe that an innocent dead girl has offered us grace than to recognize the obvious: Frank wrote about people being "truly good at heart" before meeting people who weren't. Three weeks after writing those words, she met people who weren't.

Here's how much some people dislike living Jews: they murdered 6 million of them. This fact bears repeating, as it does not come up at all in Anne Frank's writings. Readers of her diary are aware that the author was murdered in a genocide, but this does not mean that her diary is a work about genocide. If it were, it is unlikely that it would have been anywhere near as universally embraced.

We know this, because there is no shortage of writings from victims and survivors who chronicled this fact in vivid detail, and none of those documents have achieved anything like Frank's diary's fame. Those that have come close have only done so by observing those same rules of hiding, the ones that insist on polite victims who don't insult their persecutors The work that came closest to achieving Frank's international fame might be Elie Wiesel's Night, a memoir that could be thought of as a continuation of Frank's diary, recounting the tortures of a fifteen-year-old imprisoned in Auschwitz. As the scholar Naomi Seidman has discussed, Wiesel first published his memoir in Yiddish, under the title And the World Was Silent. The Yiddish book told the same story told in Night, but it exploded with rage against his family's murderers and, as the title implies, the entire world whose indifference (or active hatred) made those murders possible. With the help of the French Catholic Nobel laureate François Mauriac, Wiesel later published a French version under the new title La Nuit—a work that repositioned the young survivor's rage into theological angst. After all, what reader would want to hear about how this society had failed, how he was guilty? Better to blame G[-]d. This approach earned Wiesel a Nobel Peace Prize, as well as, years later, selection for Oprah's Book Club, the American epitome of grace. It did not, however, make teenage girls read his book in Japan, the way they read Frank's. For that he would have had to hide much, much more.

from "Everyone's (Second) Favorite Dead Jew" in People Love Dead Jews by Dara Horn, pp 9–10

[xclowniex]

I tried to ask spot-the-antisemitism but he went off on me for some reason and I don’t know why. So I’m just gonna ask you because I know you’re friends with her. Do you think Jujusjunk is going back to her old ways? I get that she’s been through a lot and I mean, hell she lived through a war I can’t imagine myself surviving but I mean, she’s changed a lot these past few months. I keep her and her family in my prayers always but she’s been on my mind alot recently. Do you think she’ll go back to being a hamasnik or go back to the juju we love? Also she hasn’t been rude to anyone, like at all. She still has frequent conversations but her points have changed and she’s posted some triggering posts. That’s all. I don’t mean this in a bad way I was just looking for how people she’s directly spoken to think. Nothing too big. I don’t get why he got mad.

I am going to explain to you why they went off on you as they were right to do so. I am going to be as respectful as I can when doing so as you are asking why you got a negative reaction.

She is a literal child, who was born in Jordan and either lived or currently lives in Lebanon, idk if she returned yet or not.

She is from two countries, which are not favourable towards Israel or jews. And this isn't even touching on the fact that she is Palestinian. Whilst palestinians aren't inherently antisemitic and assuming so is bigoted, she has mentioned before that her parents very much are of the group who are.

The rhetoric you are surronded by does very much influence you. She has literally done more than white liberals in the US to unpack all the antisemitism she is surronded by.

De-influencing yourself from harmful ideologies is not a linear journey, especially when you are palestinian and living/lived in Lebanon.

The wording of your ask gives off the vibe that you view juju as some blorbo palestinin muslim who you only play with when she does the thing you want her to do. She is not a toy, she is a human being, with complex thoughts and feelings. Whether or not that was your intention, that is the vibe your ask to me and your ask to @spot-the-antisemitism gives off.

The real red flag in your ask is the "Do you think she’ll go back to being a hamasnik or go back to the juju we love?"

That bit right there gives off the vibe there that your support for her unlearning antisemitic rhetoric, is contingent on her being at a certain point.

It is also extremely offensive that you are calling a palestinian who is putting in the hard work to unlearn antisemitism, a hamasnik. It is concerning how quickly it seems that you are able to get to that point. I want to be clear, that I am not saying that palestinians can never support hamas, as some do, the issue is with the fact that you jump to it so quickly, and ignore all the evidence which proves otherwise.

That bit also gives off the vibe that you do not view her as a real breathing and living human being.

In regards to the triggering posts, again she is a child working through a lot of complex thoughts and feelings. Even if she was an adult, my point still stands. When you ar working through the type of stuff she is, you are going to make triggering posts, comments, etc.

You are allowed to be offended or triggered by it, but the solution isn't to go "well she must be a terrible person now". The solution is to unfollow either temporarily for permently. You are responsible for curating your experience online.

Essentially, the vibe of your ask is that you expect juju to be this perfect person who is unpacking their antisemitism in a way which is digestible to you, and that is a messed up thing to think.

[spot-the-antisemitism]

https://archive.vn/nxKMz

Rather old, posted right after the 7 October Massacre

[image description: art of a Jewish woman and a Muslim woman shaking hands. Between them is a sun with text in it. The text reads: “Being Jewish is not the same as being a Zionist! Our own history of persecution as Jews helps us to understand and support the struggle of the Palestinians to determine their own destiny.” ]

Yes, reconciliation is important but they are really going on the wrong footing here

I love how the Jewish woman has no religious symbols because hamasniks see thoss as inherently Zionist and the Muslims woman is wearing a Keffiyeh as a hijab and is armed because the only good Muslim to hamasnik is a literal terrorist

intersting insight on who they see as the only good jew and the only good Muslim

[hilacopter]

Who gives a fuck what you feel as if you don't despise arabs and islam.

ah, you got me there anon 😔 you're right, I'm an Islamophobic Arabophobic asshole because I view them as people capable of thinking and making rational decisions instead of what we all know they ACTUALLY are: quirky desert people who drink sand and wear funny clothes and have to kill Israelis because they simply don't know any better!!!/s

in all seriousness I assume you're talking about me condemning Hamas because I literally haven't said anything against Palestinian civilians or civilians of any other Arab country (nor am I here). I'm not against Islam, I'm not against Arabs, I'm against an extremist terrorist group who wants me and my family dead. and it just so happens that this group is Muslim and Arab! You know how ProPals always insist criticism of the Israeli government isn't antisemitic (a true statement I wish they'd actually deliver on)? you're basically applying the opposite of that logic here. criticism of Hamas is Islamophobic because, well, they're Muslims! and not treating every Muslim as perfect human being capable of doing no wrong is Islamophobic, actually. istg the way you people talk about Muslims and Arabs is so utterly dehumanising. ever heard of the noble savage trope?

[spot-the-antisemitism]

The whole "but zionism has killed" thing makes no sense to me because Islam has done harm but you'd be a bigot to think it should stop existing. I dont get it. Post 9/11 leftists were like some bad guys claiming islam dont mean you should be islamophobic. Where did that go?

Dear anon,

they never actually believed that. They think all Muslims are good and terrorism isn’t real/terrorism is good actually. They are JUST as racist as their parents just inverted

these people reslly really wanted to be racist like their Islamophobic parents but also wanted the street cred of fetishizing black and arab people so they jumped for joy when they could be racist and antisemitic just like their folks without losing their precious precious leftist street cred

yours,

Cecil

[ravenkings]

[gooboogy]

i thought they named the ships Terror and Erebus in the show for the symbolism and drama but the ships were actually called that??? talk about a self fulfilling prophecy lmao??

[tearlessrain]

I mean years ago I really hoped that we might get some coherent dalish lore in this game that actually treated them with some measure of respect, and I was trying to give the benefit of the doubt that maybe people were right and the weird handling of their culture and beliefs thus far was a setup that would pay off when the veil crumbles and shit goes down and we see more of both the dalish and tevinter, and then we'd get some cool deconstruction of both the dalish gods AND the maker/andraste.

but that was years ago and by roughly the third time they re-announced the game I was starting to suspect that development had passed out of the hands of anyone who would give a shit about lore and setting and story payoff long ago.

and based on what people are saying so far it looks like that's true.

[randomnameless]

what do you of people who think that pointing out how problematic claude and almyra are in the fodlan games is racist?

?

You mean people who think you are racist for noticing that Claude and Almyra in general were written with the worst orientalist clichés from the early 1810s?

As a rule of thumb, I don't believe you can determine if someone is racist or not based on their opinion of fictional characters -

That being said, there's a difference between saying "I think Devdan sucks" and whatever goes down in the chamber pot, using real world rhetoric about "invasive species" and whatnot to throw shade at fictional characters you don't like.

@gascon-en-exil made a Tellius video about Devdan's uh... well, Devdan in general in Tellius and the wtf that was Devdan in a game released in the 2000s, internationally released at that - and fwiw, some youtube comments talked about minstrel shows and how Devdan reminded them of those shows so, I definitely think pointing Devdan's entire existence - down to his concept - isn't racist in itself, you're not committing robbery when you're trying to prevent one.

About Claude and Almyra in general as depicted in Fodlan...

Well, in FE16 the game basically told us that Almyrans - in the Cyril/Hilda paralogue - are people who enjoy senseless bloodbathes (they raid the border for funsies and feast and party if they're able to return home ffs!) and while they might have different values (which is not a bad thing in itself!), they are the kind of people to turn tail and flee even if it means leaving their allies die (what Claude expected Hilda to do in CF!) or their civilian randoms (Cyril was caught by Goneril forces when they raided their camp).

You can't fight anymore when you're dead, so running away isn't always the worst solution, and yet, the way it's depicted (in CF for tears, in VW to shit on Nader) in the game, it's not supposed to be something we see as good/nice/has relevance.

In Nopes Shahid mounts the greastest invasion the Locket has ever known... to show his dad that he has muhrit too and can attack the "cowards" so plz stop mopping about the son who left without writing a letter.

Aka, Almyra sends its troops to invade Fodlan... in a penis measuring contest for the throne.

Yeah.

However, everything falls apart when we play GW's second part.

Now Nader wants to bring "souvenirs" from the war, by - and it's Lorenz who tells us ffs, not Claude, but Lorenz which has all sorts of implications - pillaging the cities they will be conquering.

Claude asks his dad to give him the Almyran Navy - and by ask I mean Nader has him sign the paper while he's half asleep, a bit like what your random kid does when school asks for a parent's written authorisation, you hang the damn paper to your parent while they're doing something else so they sign without really thinking - for his personal fight in Fodlan that consists in...

Killing the CoS? Yes, but also, and more importantly, to get rid of Fodlan's "outdated" values basically by tearing apart the country/its borders.

In a nutshell, in Nopes, FE16!Hilda's racist stereotypes about Almyrans and Almyra are... confirmed.

To sum up, canonwise, Fodlan depicts Almyrans as people who love needless bloodbathes, who prey on the country they're agressing "for fun!" when it's at its lowest point to mount a serious and real invasion to 1/score points in the royal inheritence record, or 2/to effectively bring disorder/kill/remove important pillars of that country because they want to change its "values and traditions" while pillaging and massacring the land as they cross it.

My bad, it's not the 1800s rhetoric about "the orient" it's both this, and a side dose of throwing the worst tropes ever like "invading people to bring them civilisa- i mean, a new set of values".

In a way, Fodlan is worse than Tellius in that regard, because while Devdan is, hopefully, a side character you can forget to recruit, Almyra - through Claude - is a compulsory point to play through when you play the Fodlan games.

Like, the devs - graphic devs at least - really researched and designed outfits, not only based on RL cultures, but to give a distinct flair to Almyra (when they couldn't be assed to do the same for the "mainland fodlan" characters), like Claude's outfits always have a detail (at least one when it's not the barbarossa class!) to tell you that this class/character has ties to this other place, Almyra!

Surely you'd want to know what Almyra is about, right?

:')

And then you learn and wonder, Echoes didn't bother to draw specific outfits reminding the player of RL cultures gor Grieth or the Brigand Boss, so what was Fodlan thinking when they gave those outfits to Claude and Nader? What kind of associations are you supposed to make?

Are we back in the "Kaga said the land of bandits who kidnap to most likely seduce without consent ladies was inspired by Persia? What the actual fuck?" era?

In a way, depicting Almyrans as the "bloodthirsty people who pillage as they go" is, imo, as offensive as Martin's Dothrakis, I don't think you are, or anyone is, racist for pointing it out.

[jewish-microwave-laser]

btw there is no liberation for palestinians until you're able to understand that they are a nuanced group of people. if you ignore that there are people in palestine who have done horrible things, who have and continue to lie, who genuinely believe some of the most fucked up shit out there; then once all of this is over and the dust settles and there is time to look into the facts of what actually happened during the war, your image of Every Palestinian Ever as the pitiable noble savage will be shattered. you'll lose the motivation to keep all eyes on palestine, and as you move onto other things, palestinians will still be dealing with generations of trauma and poverty and the impossibility of finding a peaceful resolution to everything

i just hope you don't treat them with the same amount of hatred you started treating jews once we stopped being your pet minority on october 7

[spot-the-antisemitism]

Not beating the “threatened by Jews having equal rights” allegations

That part was not in the Jose Martinez Cobo definition of indigenous peoples.

Ironically the reason it was add was to prevent indigenous people from achieving self determination.

“Most Israelis are colonizers”- Jews are a single ethnic group either we are all indigenous or we are all colonizers.

[spot-the-antisemitism]

100 usd says you can't say something about Muslims that isn't super fucking racist

Islam is a religion like any other and Muslims are people like any other

the real Islamophobia is deciding that a few acts paints the whole religion badly and so you must either bomb the practitioners to glass or deny the transgressions entirely

you act like the only extremes are apologia and genocide, you are wrong

please donate 100 usd to my paypal as listed in my bio

[angryjewishcockroach]

#it's because leftists think arabs are poor dumb camel-riding savages who don't know any better than to rape and kill#if they actually gave a fuck about muslims they'd condemn the terror regimes that oppress them#but they hate jews more than they care about arabs/muslims (via sephardigf)

Getting called Islamophobic for condemning the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah is truly, truly tone deaf.

So you're saying to me that you think the likes of Hamas, a genocidal terrorist organisation responsible for massacring, raping, and torturing civilians, and oppressing and brutalising their *own* people represent the beliefs and views of almost 2 billion Muslims in the world and you have the audacity to call others Islamophobic?!

Just say you think Muslims can't be expected to behave better and go, and take your reprehensible noble savage shit with you.

[callofbabythulhu]

Chapter 1: The Hunt Begins

CW: Strong language, religious imagery, bugs (like loads of em), mention of gore, most possibly OOC for Rendacted, not proofread Chapter 1 of the Witch Hunter Au for @14dayswithyou​

CW: Strong language, religious imagery, bugs (like loads of em), mention of gore, most possibly OOC for Rendacted, not proofread

Word count: 2.1k

Ren awoke on his own before the sun had begun to rise and started on his preparations. One of the villagers had come by the evening prior and dropped off all the supplies he had asked for. Nothing was quality made and there was barely any silver and powder but he had to make do. If push came to shove he could always retreat and come back after restocking. But that wouldn’t happen of course. 

Before he headed out he took great care in sharpening his dagger and inspecting his flintlock pistol for any damage from the humid environment. Keeping his powder dry was going to be the worst task to keep track of. Ren shouldered his bag and left the chapel. He didn’t react to any greetings from the villagers as he disappeared into the wilderness. 

The sounds of the village dissipated and instead the air was filled with the noise of the swamp around him. Frogs and birds were joined in chorus with bugs and the only foreign sound was the squelching of his boots on the soft muddy ground. It was tricky to navigate the landscape and despite having asked for a map from the villagers it was barely legible and he could hardly make out any landmarks on it. After stepping into yet another  puddle that was deeper than it seemed he let out a string of curses and pulled his soaked leg out of it. Ren ripped the map apart and sat down on an exposed root. He pulled out his flask and took a swig of water followed by an annoyed sigh. “How does anyone navigate this place?” he grumbled to himself as the noise around him made it difficult to even get his thoughts in order. There had to be a hint as to the witch’s whereabouts. Something he wasn’t seeing. He let his gaze travel around the landscape. Small ponds and muddy ground dotted with trees that were still dense enough to create and underbrush. A sudden loud buzzing in his ear made him growl and swat at the gnat that tried to find purchase on his neck. “Fuck off!” Mid strike his eyes lit up. The elder had mentioned something about a buzzing of bugs when the witch had first attacked that boy. He just had to find the biggest swarm and hope that it could lead him to the witch. With renewed energy he got up and trekked on. He followed every swarm of flies, every mosquito. No insect escaped his attention but at the end of the day he was just following a loose lead.

The sun had already begun to set when Ren reached a small clearing. The ground was covered in moss and flowers. A green carpet dotted with softs and pinks and purples. It was quite a tranquil sight and even the noises around him seemed to die down as he entered it. This place felt strange and Ren was sure that he was on the right track now. Considering the late hour he decided to make camp for the night. He gathered some wood and started a small campfire. The food he had gotten from the village was nothing to write home about but it was better than having to forage for food in this godforsaken place. Not that starving would be a problem around here. This bog was filled with life and he could have sworn that he had even seen a partridge  disappear in the underbrush at one point. 

Ren shook his head to clear his thoughts and focus on his plans. By following the insects he had at least found a new place but he had to find a better strategy than wandering around aimlessly. Perhaps he should find a source of clean water and stake out the area. The witch still had to eat and drink after all. It was also quite possible that there was a spell on the area that would turn intruders around. If that was the case Ren would have to make sure to mark his path from now on and find a way around the spell. 

The sun had fully set and the wilderness around had turned pitch black. The only specks of light outside the ring cast by the fire were a few fireflies, lazily buzzing between the trees. Ren’s thoughts had trailed off and he was staring into the fire, his hands preoccupied with the rosary around his neck. The soft, moss covered ground swallowed any sounds of someone approaching on the other side of the fire. Only when the sounds of bones and small rocks clattering together hit his ears did his trance-like state break. His eyes shot up and were met by a golden gaze on the other side of the flames. The villagers clearly hadn’t seen this witch up close. The stubble along their chin and upper lip clearly marked them as a man but he could see why from afar they could be mistaken for a woman. Soft features and dust covered rosy skin was framed by a head of wild, moss-green hair. A pair of crescent moon shaped earrings twinkled in the firelight and the shawl made of feathers looked more clean than he had expected from a wild witch. Their eyes were the color of liquid gold and seemed to almost be glowing in the low light. Ren couldn’t help but stare and somehow the picture of an angel came to his mind. He quickly shook off those thoughts and his hand reached for the dagger on his chest. “Don’t.” Their voice was barely a whisper but still he could hear it loud and clear over the crackling fire. “I will be gone by the time you reach me or fire a shot.” Their eyes still fixed on Ren's; the witch sat down after he removed his hand from the dagger. “What do you want?” He finally asked after a moment of silence. The witch’s eyes lit up with a smile. “That wholly depends on you, my dear hunter.” They seemed to shuffle closer, mischief clear in their eyes. “What did the villagers tell you? Have I stolen children? Turned the milk of their goats to blood? Brought famine?” They chuckled as they listed all the things people claimed witches would do to hurt people. The initial feeling of awe that Ren had had disappeared as he saw how unafraid the witch was of him. “You cursed the men of the village after you threatened the woodcutter’s son.” There was a moment of silence, only the sounds of the bog around them filling the air, before the witch erupted into laughter. Where Ren had expected an evil cackle he was met with a soft laughter that reminded him of the chiming of bells. Bright and light and airy. “Oh my poor hunter! You have it all wrong.” They wiped a tear from their eyes. “Then what did you do to the men who have gone mad with fear through your curse?” He was getting frustrated not because the witch seemed so comfortable around him but because he kept catching his thoughts wandering to the sound of their voice and their feminine form. “Oh…you mean the boy that intruded onto my land and the men that came after to burn me?” The smile disappeared from their lips and was replaced by a sneer. “This land isn’t yours-”- “It isn’t theirs either!” They snapped back. “This wilderness belongs to all the creatures that live in it. Everything that eats and sleeps and breathes. Everything that shits and pisses and fucks. And that includes me. So why can I not say that this is my land?” The burning glow in the witch’s golden eyes was mesmerizing to Ren as he could barely hold their gaze without feeling his cheeks turning hot. A heavy sigh suddenly dropped all tension in the air as the witch leaned on their hands. “I never cursed any of those people. All I did was frighten them. Theatrics. Nothing more.” They waved their free hand as if swiping something away. Ren found it hard to believe that. He was speaking to a witch after all. They were cunning if they wanted to. “But you don’t deny that you are in fact a witch?” They shrugged at the question. “I guess I never did, no. If you want to hear it so badly then fine. I am a witch and a pretty good one if I may say so myself.” They smirked and tapped their chin. “However I steer clear of any settlements that lie around the bog. Normal folk are too much trouble in my eyes. I prefer the occasional hunter.” Their eyes locked unto Ren’s once more and unreadable glint in them. “I am not sure I follow. What do you do with witch hunters?” His frown was met with a light chuckle. “I play with them. Don’t get me wrong I like the bog. It is serene but also so dull after a while.” They sighed. “So this is like a game to you?” The frown deepened as annoyance mixed into his expression. “And for you it isn’t?” The question caught him off guard. His mouth opened and shut a few times before the witch continued. “The thrill of the hunt. Having an opponent on your level to outwit. Tell me my dear hunter: have you ever gone against a so-called wild witch?” They tilted their head and seemed to be searching for something in Ren’s expression. “I have to admit all witches I have persecuted so far have been members of communities. But that doesn’t make my accomplishments invalid.” The witch nodded. “I see. But isn’t that awfully dull? Burning a young girl for speaking her mind? Wouldn’t you like to chase a real witch for a change?”

Ren’s gaze went distant for a moment as his thoughts trailed back to the witches he had burned so far. His concentration was broken as the witch on the other side of the fire stirred and rose to their feet. “All I want is a little fun. So why not make this something we can both enjoy? If you catch me you can do whatever you want with me. Parade me around the village, burn me, I do not care. I will be at your mercy.” The last word was almost a purr as it reached Ren’s ears and he could feel them grow hot as his imagination went wild. “And what if I don’t find you? What will you get in return?” He got to his feet as well, eliciting a small gasp of surprise from the witch as they realized how tall the witch hunter was. “Well…all I want is a little fun. So how about we just say that the game lasts until one of us dies?” They smiled with mischief twinkling in their eyes. “I would hate for that to happen though. So you better find me, my dear hunter.” They chuckled and turned to leave. “Wait! Will you at least tell me your name?” He tried to reach across the fire as the witch turned back to look at him once more. “Hum. How about I tell you once you catch me? Then you can tell me yours as well.” The soft smile on their black painted lips was enough to cause Ren’s heart to flutter. He gave a nod that he hoped was self assured and didn’t waver. “It’s a promise then. Good night.” With a wave the witch disappeared into the dark bog and Ren was left alone once more. 

A loud crack of the dying fire caused Ren’s eyes to shoot open. He sat up and searched his surroundings. The sky was turning a soft blue as the sun had begun its ascend and the fire had reduced to white ash and rosy glimmers. He let out a long sigh as he relaxed and rubbed his face. “Just a dream.” As he let his hands drop to his lap a glint at the edge of the fire caught his eye. He reached over and pulled a crescent moon shaped earring from the ashes. He held it up into the light and remembered seeing them dangling from the witch’s ear. It hadn’t been a dream after all or at least not fully. He let the earring drop into his pocket and stood up, dusting off his coat and pants. He shouldered his bag and headed for the direction the witch had disappeared towards the previous night. “It’s a promise. I will find you Angel.”

[barbreypilled]

remember when that one asoiaf race discourse was happening recently and that one silly sausage in the notes was like ‘obviously because it’s a feudal society they have to be white because feudalism is Bad so it is a White People Thing’. lol. lmao even. ijbol mayhaps

[repotting]

What tf was up w that Madeline L'Engle novel that was like "to be a good Christian you shouldn't be homophobic! If people are gay it's Not Your Business. ☺️ (Btw yes they DO groom and attempt to rape teenage kids BUT like that's just what happens when someone's Very Sad so you should be the bigger person and forgive them!! 🥰 Right after it happened, child!)"