#noahide law

[verilyverily]

So if I continue speaking out against Trump as I have been then that will be considered an act of treason punishable by death. Think I'll shut my mouth? 🤣 Nope 

The Coming Reality of Project 2025

[msclaritea]

The Texas Governor outlawing criticism of Jews is about laying the groundwork for Noahide laws.

Greg Abbot intends to punish those who criticise Jews by beheading.

[liberty1776]

The Talmud, Chabadism And Noahide Laws - Message by Dr. Chuck Baldwin on...

The UN was created to create the modern state of Israel. 

[aranyadev]

https://rumble.com/v44jphx-trump-is-the-head-of-the-snake-the-messianic-cult-they-are-chabad.html

[shalom-iamcominghome]

Context: my rabbi was telling a story in our judaism and hebrew class about going to israel and a funny thing that happened with transliterating english into hebrew (we were learning alef)

Rabbi: So I was in front of this store reading the sign and spelling it out to myself *points to ס ו פּ on our alef chart* and I couldn't figure out what-

Me, obliviously interrupting: oh it was a supermarket???

Rabbi, amused: ........yeah, it was a supermarket, you'd do well in israel

[rabbiaharon]

”Can a Goy be among the Chasidei Umos Haolam (righteous among the nations) if they believe in one G-d, but have never heard of the Torah.” I’ve been asked this question recently in a few different places, I’d like to iron out my answer in brief. I’ll divide my answer into a section in the theory of the issue, and a section on the practicality of the issue.

In theory, a non-jew is held responsible fully for not keeping the obligations set out for them in the 7 Noahide Laws, regardless of whether or not they’ve had a chance to learn about them. This is outlined in many places in the Talmud, as well as in midrash, such as the section regarding the stones placed by the Jordan River by the Jewish people in their passage, on which the torah was written in 70 languages so that the non-jews could come and learn for themselves, and seek out the correct action. The midrash then comments that the Goyim will come before Hashem when Moshiach comes to judge them, and complain that they weren’t told the proper course of action, and that the answer to them is that the Torah was made public to them, and the responsibility of “not knowing” ultimately falls on them. This theoretical, higher expectation for responsibility comes in stark contrast to the responsibility placed on a Jew who does not know about the 613 commandments we have been charged with, as a Jew who does not know about the 613 is not held responsible. There may be a variety of reasons behind this, I’ll leave that issue for another day.

The practicality of the matter is quite different. The Rambam in Hilchos Malachim (The Laws Concerning Kings) discusses that in order for a non-jew to be considered among the Chasidei Umos Haolam, they must not only keep the 7 laws according to their proper details, but that they must do so because they were (re)received by Moshe at Mount Sinai in order to teach to the nations. Keeping them because they are logical, or because they are forced to keep them by their government (an unusual possibility indeed, as I don’t believe there is any government on Earth who enforces all of the 7 equally and without exception) does not qualify them as “Chasidei Umos Haolam”, and they will still be considered among idolaters in halachos which govern the way we interact with them.

There are other poskim which argue on the Rambam concerning the importance of intent to the classification of non-Jews in their observance of the 7 Laws, all agree that theoretically a non-Jew must keep all the laws, including all of their details (which are far more than 7), in order to be classified as “Righteous Among the Nations”. Ergo, someone who does follow the 7 commandments in all of their details, while they are classified as a noahide (insofar as the technicality of not being responsible for the violation of those commandments), they aren’t classified as “righteous among the nations”.

Nevertheless, many poskim (such as the Chazon Ish in Yoreh Deah) suggest by implication that there may not be a difference - in terms of Hashem’s mercies - between a Jew who was raised with the knowledge of a goy (no knowledge of halacha or torah), and a non-jew who lives in a situation where there is no accessibility or knowledge base for accessing the Torah, conceptually or practically. Hashem ultimately holds someone only responsible if they have the ability to learn, or if they have access to someone who can teach. If a non-jew in a corner of the world separates from and nullifies his idolatry and expresses his belief in the one G-d, they may still be considered a noahide, even if they have no access to a learning base to understand that they have an obligation of the 7 noahide laws. In modern times, there is certainly more access and learning opportunities than any other era, with the advent of the internet. However, as we have seen socially and politically, it can sometimes be extremely difficult to sort through information and disinformation on the internet to come to a single, true set of facts, so the existence of the internet may not, in fact, alter the equation in this situation.

The Lubavitcher Rebbe outlines our responsibility in educating the non-jews of the world in the observance of the 7 Noahide Laws in all of their details, and regardless of how I personally feel in light of the past years’ events, the spreading of knowledge of the 7 laws remains an integral part of preparing the world for Moshiach. Through our hard work in this area, and through Hashem’s great mercies upon those who do not know what to do, we should merit to see the world in it’s ideal state, as the Rambam concludes in the Mishnah Torah: “The world will be filled with the knowledge of Hashem like how the water fills the seas.”

[agreenroad]

Adam's 2 Laws, Noah's 7 Laws, 10 Laws Of Moses, Commandments Of Jesus Christ

FIRST ADAMIC COVENANT LAW AND 2 COMMANDMENTS – FIRST REBELLION, FIRST KILLING AND FIRST BLOOD GUILT ESTABLISHED FIRST LAWS OF GOD FOR MAN Genesis 2 16 And the Lord God [s]commanded the man, saying, [t]Thou shalt eat freely of every tree of the garden, 17 But of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for [u]in the day that thou eatest thereof, thou shalt die…

[apenitentialprayer]

It is very fascinating to me that, in a hypothetical situation in which a religious Jewish state is conquers a territory, the demand for that conquered population to adopt the seven Noahide laws as a condition for their surrender is:

considered obligatory by Maimonides, who lived in a primarily Muslim (whose status as Noahides was not really questioned) society.

deemed not something that should be taken into consideration by Nahmanides, who lived in a primarily Christian (whose status as Noahides was much more controversial) society.

(Source: Michael Broyde - The Bounds of Wartime Military Conduct in Jewish Law: An Expansive Conception, page 23)

[captious-solarian]

Your postie is obeying the commandment to destroy idolatry. He is earning his place in the world to come.

The fedex guy threw my package full of priceless fingerbones of various saints and apostles over the fence into a big puddle because he couldnt figure out how to use the front gate. This is the tenth or eleventh time this has happened now.

[blackpilledkremlintsarina5294]

Zionist Chabad Rabbi said a prayer for a future based on the Noahide laws at a Trump rally…

Few realize how serious this is.

[paulthepoke]

This Week in Prophecy: Hezbollah Declares War; Ezekiel 38; Trump & Anger

This Week in Prophecy: Hezbollah Declares War; Ezekiel 38; Trump & Anger

Obadiah 1:20a And the exiles of this host of the Israelites will possess the land of the Canaanites as far as Zarephath… Zarephath is in modern day Lebanon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Line_(withdrawal_line) UN Resolution 1701, Adopted 2006 https://peacemaker.un.org/israellebanon-resolution1701 Beepers one day… Insane Footage from today, showing the Detonation of several Encrypted…

[liberty1776]

Christian, Your Allegiance Is To Christ, Not Faux Israel! - by Dr. Chuck...

Jewish Law can not save anyone. No one but Jesus could keep the law. We can only keep the law through Jesus. Jesus is the only way to salvation. 

[robot-roadtrip-rants]

Hang on, hang on, that's just not right. I can see how you might take a monolatrous interpretation from certain parts of the Bible, but there are just as many monotheist sections. I mean for heaven's sake:

שְׁמַע יִשְׂרָאֵל ה אֱלֹקינוּ ה אֶחָֽד

"Hear O Israel, Hashem is our God, Hashem is one."

Like. That's not an ambiguous statement.

Or later on, in Psalms 115:

עֲצַבֵּיהֶם, כֶּסֶף וְזָהָב; מַעֲשֵׂה, יְדֵי אָדָם פֶּה-לָהֶם, וְלֹא יְדַבֵּרוּ; עֵינַיִם לָהֶם, וְלֹא יִרְאוּ אָזְנַיִם לָהֶם, וְלֹא יִשְׁמָעוּ; אַף לָהֶם, וְלֹא יְרִיחוּן. יְדֵיהֶם, וְלֹא יְמִישׁוּן--רַגְלֵיהֶם, וְלֹא יְהַלֵּכוּ; לֹא-יֶהְגּוּ, בִּגְרוֹנָם Their idols are of silver and gold; they are the works of the hands of men. They have mouths and do not speak; they have eyes and do not see They have ears and do not hear; they have noses and do not smell They have hands and do not touch--they have feet and do not walk; they do not speak with their throats

"LOL check out these LOSERS worshipping shiny objects, unlike US who worship the REAL deal! *Duck Hunting dog laugh*"

And then there's stories like Eliyahu challenging the priests of Baal to a god-off, where the priests can't get any response from Baal no matter what rituals they perform (1 Kings 18). You could interpret that as a monolatrous story where Hashem is just waaaaaaay more powerful than Baal, I suppose. But the story strikes me more as a demonstration of the non-existence of Baal. Just look at verses 26 and 27:

They took the bull that was given them; they prepared it, and invoked Baal by name from morning until noon, shouting, "O Baal, answer us!" But there was no sound, and none who responded; so they performed a hopping dance about the alert that had been set up. When noon came, Elijah mocked them, saying, "Shout louder! After all, he is a god. But he may be in conversation, he may be detained, or he may be on a journey, or perhaps he is asleep and will wake up."

That doesn't sound like a taunt about the power of Baal. That sounds like a mockery of the Canaanite conception of gods and godhood.

I do agree with that there's a monolatrous > monotheist drift in very, very early Judaism (Israelism?). But you're talking about the Tanakh like it's a purely monolatrous book when it isn't.

hey good faith question- do you mind elaborating on judaism’s belief of g-d not being the ‘one true g-d’ and just the ‘g-d of the hebrews?

sure, but keep in mind that I wasn't raised in a religious house, so I'm not an expert and this could be inaccurate, you could wait to see if other people would elaborate in reblogs or replies.

a lot of religions have the belief that they worship the true g-d(s) and everyone else is wrong and are worshipping (a) false g-d(s). I believe Christianity works like that.

in the Tanach, there is no claim that other religions' g-ds don't exist, in fact, there are instances were miracles from other g-ds happen, but the jewish g-d is described as unique and stronger than others.

for example, in the story of The Exodus (is that how יציאת מצרים is called in english), when Moses comes to the Pharaoh for the first time to ask to release the Hebrews, he showcases Hashem's (the Jewish g-d) strength by turning his staff into a snake, the Pharaoh's magicians(?) then proceed to also turn their staffs into snakes, but Moses's snake eats theirs. the story doesn't show their g-ds as non-existent, they gave the magicians the same powers as Hashem, but the power of Hashem was stronger and thus Moses's snake won over the other snakes.

foreign worship is banned in Judaism, not because the foreign g-ds are false, but because they're not Hashem, I don't know how to explain it but that's how it works.

[thejewitches]

Are Noachides Messianic Jews?

While there can be overlap, generally, no.

Most Noahides do not profess themselves to be Jewish as the term itself acknowledges that the adherent is not Jewish. Messianics, however, are by-and-large Christians claiming to be Jewish.

A Noahide refers to a non-Jew who chooses to adhere to the following seven commandments known as the Seven Laws of Noah:

1) Do not deny God. 2) Do not blaspheme God. 3) Do not murder. 4) Do not engage in illicit sexual relations. 5) Do not steal. 6) Do not eat from a live animal. 7) Establish courts of justice and a legal system

The modern Noahide movement is very new and was only established in the 1990s by some religious Zionist organizations--Early promoters include convicted terrorist Meir Kahane. Despite its popularity online, it does not have a huge number of adherents, or do many Jews promote it.

[tamamita]

why jewish people say "theyre chosen by god" why? what did they do?

Abraham (as) was steadfast and remained in submission to the One True God in a society full of idol worshiping, as a result God gave him the task of fulfilling various errands to prove Abraham's (as) loyalty to Him. Abraham (as) succeeded in all of this and God promised him a great nation through Isaac (as) and Jacob (as).

The Israelites were named after Jacob (as), who would later be named Israel (as), after he wrestled with the agent of God. The Israelites were chosen by God because that was God's promise to Abraham (as). When He liberated the Israelites from Pharaoh, Moses (as) ascended Mount Sinai and claimed the Torah + the Ten commandments and being instructed with consecrating the Tabarnacle As long as the Israelites upheld God's laws, His promise to Abraham (as) and Moses (as) would remain. Failed step one; some of the Israelites immediately worshipped the Golden Calf, which led to God's punishment to wander the deserts of Egypt for 40 years until they reached the Holy Land. As you can see, being favoured by God comes at uhh a cost (?).

Anyways, the Israelites were not superior to other nations since they were given the task of upholding God's covenant. Think of it in the sense of your mother assigning you with the dishes, while your brother doesn't need to. The difference is that you get to have some candy after you finish your task. Either way, every other nation were given other commandments (see the Noahide laws), and as long as they upheld these seven laws, God would bless them. But the Israelites were specifically chosen for the task God had given them at Sinai, which is not as easy as it sounds when you read through the 613 Mitzvot. Nevertheless, as long as they abided by the Torah, God's favour would remain there. Of course, the Israelites would be challenged by difficulties, and the kingdom of Israel would suffer several setbacks as a result of various deviations from the Commandments according to the Tanakh. But despite these punishments, God's promise remained as long as they abided by the Torah.

The idea that Jewish people are the chosen people of God is affirmed by Christians and Muslims as well.

[unsolicited-opinions]

I'd like to try to clear up chronic (sometimes willful) misunderstandings about the words "goy" and "goyim."

I think the confusion is mostly from the assumptions of cultural Christians and cultural Muslims that Jewish culture shares Christian/Muslim views of other religions - so most of this is about how each of those religious traditions regards peoples of other faiths.

(Jews, Christians, Muslims - I'd welcome comments if I have misrepresented facts about Christian or Muslim belief/history and would welcome elaborating comments)

(TLDR version: Christians and Muslims sometimes assume "goy" is derisive because "infidel" and "kafir", their terms for those who don't share their faith, are derisive.)

Where does "goy" or "goyim" come from?

In the Torah (the first four books of what Christians call The Old Testament), in the book of Bereshit (בְּרֵאשִׁית‎), which Christians call Genesis, appears the first known written use of the Hebrew word for "nations," and that word is "goyim."

The first recorded usage of goyim occurs in Genesis 10:5 and applies to non-Israelite nations. The first mention of goy in relation to the Israelites comes in Genesis 12:2, when God promises Abraham that his descendants will form a goy gadol ("great nation")

If you like, you can see many translations of what Christians call Genesis 10:5 here.

You'll see that translators to English sometimes translate "goy" as "gentile," a word which comes from Latin and describes someone outside of one's own tribe/clan/nation. To me, that's often not a particularly bothersome translation. (I'm trying to be mindful of my own biases as a GenX USAmerican who has lived in the diaspora his entire life. I think most of my generation of US Jews was taught that "gentile" was an inoffensive word to describe non-Jews in most contexts.)

Other Christian translations, however, sometimes translate goy/goyim as "heathen"/"heathens," which does not generally align with Jewish thinking about other faiths. So for this to make sense we need to touch briefly on how Jewish thought views Jews and how it other religions.

Okay, how do Jews regard themselves in relation to other peoples and religions?

You've probably heard that Jews call themselves "The Chosen People," and you've almost certainly heard misinformation/disinformation about what that means. You've probably seen it suggested that Judaism regards Jews as superior to non-Jews. This 100% false assertion is profoundly dangerous. There is no Jewish supremacy in Judaism.

What being Chosen means to religious Jews is that Jewish people have a covenant with God which requires of them special responsibilities which other peoples are not obliged to observe. Religious Jews believe God chose the Jews to obey the commandments of the Torah, and that the Jews, in turn, chose the Torah. These resulting special responsibilities do not make the Jews more loved by God than other peoples and they do not privilege Jews over other peoples.

Jewish thought explicitly regards peoples/faiths which share the values of the Noahide laws as "rightious." Roughly, these are the Noahide laws:

Don't  worship idols (worship God only)

Don't curse God (don't desecrate the holy)

Don't commit murder

Don't commit adultery or incest

Don't steal

Don't eat flesh torn from a living animal (animal cruelty is bad)

Establish courts of justice

These values are nearly universal among the world's major religions. Christianity and Islam share these values.

Sidebar: One could certainly argue that religious Jews might prefer the Muslim prohibition of visual idols to what looks in Hinduism (to religious and uninformed Jewish eyes) like rampant idolotry, but any serious study of incredibly complex and varied Hindu practices reveals that Hinduism is certainly not idolotry when seen from inside its own belief system.

So the broadly held view of the overwhelming majority of the world's Jews is that God loves non-Jews and regards them as rightious if they are ethical and moral in how they interact with other human beings. They are Chassiddei Umot ha-Olam, pious people of the world. The Jewish word for non-Jews simply means "other peoples of earth" or "non-Jews." Theres no judgment or condemnation in it. There's no Jewish drive to make the world Jewish, to convert non-Jews to Judaism, or to condemn people of other faiths for being something other than Jewish. Such behaviors are forbidden. (I'd like to note here that I have seen video of ultra-orthodox haredi in Israel insulting and spitting on Christians. This is wrong, upsetting, and disgusting. Most Israelis and most Jews condemn such behavior. All fundamentalist movements, in my view, suck, including such haredi. They represent Jews as much as the Westboro Baptist Church represents Christians.)

Okay, but aren't Christians also okay with other religions?

Many forms of Christianity require Christians to proselytize, to "spread the good news" and to convert non-Christians to Christianity whenever possible. Many kinds of Christianity regard this as the greatest of good deeds, because non-Christians are doomed to the eternal torment of Hell, so if they offend a non-Christian with their efforts to convert, it's for the non-Christian's own good. In some places and times, conversion to Christianity was forced. (A huge topic for another time.) Generally, Christianity regards other religions as false and wrong, even if they are pro social, share similar values, and are not a threat to Christianity. Non-Christians (including the Jews from whom Christians drew their monotheism, Muslims who share their monotheism, and competing Christian movements) have been referred to by Christians as unbelievers and infidels.

Where "goy" simply means "non-Jew," "Infidel" does not simply mean "non-Christian." It is unquestionably a judgement and a condemnation.

How do Muslims regard other faiths?

In the same way that most Christians believe that faith in their Christ is the only way to attain the kingdom of heaven, polls show that a majority of Muslims worldwide believe that Islam is the only path to heaven.

Muslims say that Islam is the only religion that leads to eternal life in heaven in most countries surveyed in the Middle East and North Africa, including Egypt (96%), Jordan (96%), Iraq (95%), Morocco (94%) and the Palestinian territories (89%). Somewhat smaller majorities take this view in Lebanon (66%) and Tunisia (72%).

Muslim culture has its own specialized word for non-Muslims, "kafir." The Quran uses the word to describe early polytheistic antagonists of the Islamic movement and some verses stress the difference between kafir which are hostile to Islam and kafir who are not. Later, the word was used for any non-Muslim and became derisive.

In 2019, Nahdlatul Ulama, a large organization of Indonesian Sunni Muslims, called for their co-religionists worldwide to cease using the word.

“When someone calls you a kafir, that means you’re considered someone who is godless,” said Alex Arifianto, an Indonesian political scientist with the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore.

“Or you’re someone whose religion is considered inferior to the Islamic belief,” he said. “That’s why this is so significant. The largest Muslim organization in the world is saying, ‘Look, we have to treat non-Muslims as equals.’”

So if "goy" simply means "non-Jew" without condemnation or judgment, why are so many Christians and Muslims ready to believe that the word is derisive?

Bluntly, it's because the Christian and Muslim words for those who do not share their faith (Infidel and kafir) are derisive, are judgemental, and are condemning. Cultural Christians and Cultural Muslims assume that these elements of their faith and culture have clear analogs in Jewish thought. Here's the thing: They don't.

You're saying that Jews have never used "goy," "goyim," or "goyishe" derisively?

Absolutely not! I can't and won't pretend that theres no tribalistic bigotry in Jewish history. Jews learned over the last 2000 years to expect better and fairer treatment from other Jews than they'd expect from gentiles, and that shows up in language. "Goy" has unquestionably been used derisively. One of my Yiddish-speaking grandparents said that a "goyishe kop" (gentile head) was someone who didn't think ahead, or who lacked compassion, and that's undoubtedly a derisive use. It's beyond question that "goy" can be used derisively, I'm only arguing that this is the exception, not the rule.

(In the only Jewish nation on earth, the political, social, legal, and religious freedoms of the 20% of Israeli citizens are not Jewish...are identical to the rights of Jewish citizens- because that's a Jewish value.)

As for me, I don't use "goy" in mixed Jewish/gentile company because I live in a very pluralistic society and do not wish to inadvertently give offense, even if that offense is rooted in someone else's misunderstanding of my heritage. That's my choice.

At the same time, I have not with my own ears ever heard a Jew I know use the word derisively.

Your mileage may vary, your practices may vary, your experiences may vary. I have lived my entire life as a 2% minority in a majority Christian country where diasporan Jewish culture evolved to take pains to avoid insulting the majority and that is not a universal Jewish experience.

The hill I'll die on here is that unlike in Christian and Islamic thought, Jews do not regard the people of other faiths as inferior, wrong, broken, or in need of rescue.

Jews do not attempt to convince goyim to become Jews, Jews do not preach to gentiles from Jewish scripture or attempt to force them to pray as Jews pray. Jews do not believe that goyim are cursed, doomed, or unloved by God.

Those are Christian and Muslim takes on Infidels and Kuffaar, not Jewish takes on goyim.

Lastly, please know this: Christianity and Islam both took their basis from Judaism, but discarded many fundamental Jewish values.

The disrespect, condemnation, disparagement and disenfranchisement which Muslim and Christian nations and cultures have inflicted on those they called(/call) Infidels and Kuffaar were not derived from their Jewish origins.