#no beetlebabes allowed

[skullytrickybonez]

Hello everyone Skully here and Here's a quick psa and ramble about this disgusting ship that I've did not like because If you shipping with Beetlejuice and Lydia than please get away from me and stay away from me because I've really dislike and hate this ship so much because I've just hate Beetlejuice x Lydia so very much because it's one of the worst ship that I've ever seen in my life and I've ever come across and it just make's me feel so very uncomfortable and this ship is just icky and very yucky and it truly make's me sick to my stomach and I've hate,hate,hate this ship so very much and I've just hate and despise it so much with an absolute burning passion and to all the Beetlebabes and Beetlebabe Shippers out there who are reading this then please do not interact with my account because Beetlebabes and Beetlebabes shippers are alway's not allowed and not alway's welcome in my account so please just go away and just leave me alone,go away and stay away from me please and thank you and have a nice day!!!

[rintheperson]

The sillys, the stillest of sillys right there!

diseased bug man and his weird sister sorry 4 lack of rain world posts, be back to that soon ! !

[beetelbabes]

Lydia's Guilt

Hi hello so I made a post a little while back talking about how the ending to the wedding scene is Lydia's manifestation of her guilt and her coming to terms with what she's lost.

This is all my opinion and my wild theories so! LETS GO

Firstly, lets talk about the wedding scene. Coming into it Lydia says "Rory loves me, that's gotta be enough" Lydia doesn't truly love Rory, just like Rory doesn't love her - Rory is using her and Lydia is allowing it to happen because she is being manipulated and she feels like she isn't going to get anyone in her life who truly understands her so it has to be enough she knows it won't ever be what she is looking for in life but she's given up at this point on finding her own happiness and resigned for "just enough"

Secondly, Rory has no respect for Lydia. It's shown extremely clearly in this scene as he breaks his promise to her about a "small" wedding, he has no respect for her wishes, just her fame. He wants her fame, he wants the attention she gets.

Thirdly, and here's where my beetlebabes heart SOARS. Lydia knows that Beej won't hurt her. There are so many subtle hints towards this, after Rory admits the truth - her first instinct is to move CLOSER to Beej, he is a safety net that she finds herself drawn to. He showed her the truth because he wanted her to make her own choices.

He knows what she needs in the moment & He respects her. Lydia is used to having her own emotions brushed off by Rory, she's used to being ignored and to tuck it all away for the show - Betelgeuse allows her to feel. Instead of invalidating her anger, her gives her an outlet for it in his own way, something that works for them both, he gets to have fun - she gets to let her anger out.

To add to this: he respects her. He banishes everyone in the church, whether he knew that Lydia would want something small or not, he still manages to get her the quiet wedding she was talking about. They just understand each other in a way Lydia's never had before.

HE IS IN LOVE WITH HER. every time he looks at her it's with adoration and love. He loves her. and this is something that HE didn't expect, he didn't expect to fall in love with Lydia but he did and now he knows he can't let that go. He continues to wait and wait and wait for her, he never pushes himself onto her - he just waits for her and that's enough for him. He will wait for centuries for her and he knows this.

Which brings me on to my next point of...

Lydia realises he truly loves her during this scene. All the times before, she had assumed that it was all for show, just like her relationship with Rory - she assumes that no one could ACTUALLY love her but during this scene is when she realises. She realises he truly does actually love her but that she won't be able to have this, she knows that Delia and Astrid will not understand, she knows that by the end she will have to banish him. She argues with her own thoughts because in front of her in a man willing to give her the life she wants and she isn't allowed it.

Beej has a similar realisation. He isn't stupid, he knew bringing Lydia into the afterlife was a violation - you can't prove me wrong that he didn't know. HE DID. he did it because he knew Lydia wouldn't understand that he just wanted to help her with no strings attached, this was his way of doing it. But he did also want to marry Lydia because he does love her. His realisation was that he lost her again, that it was over and he was going to be alone again.

WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY FINAL POINT

Lydia feels guilty for banishing him. THIS expression stuck with me throughout all my rewatches of this film. She looks resigned, she knew it had to be this way. She knew she had to banish him even if she'd realised that he loved her for HER in a way no one else has before.

She holds this expression for a few seconds, its not a fleeting moment. She truly is resigned. She only smiles again once Delia touches her and brings her back to the present.

SHE STILL DREAMS OF HIM. We don't know how long this scene is after the wedding scene but she still thinks of him, she still feels guilty. The guilt clearly keeps her up at night and MAYBE she misses him, realising that no one else will understand why she thinks of him still. No one will understand, just like no one would've understood if she hadn't banished him.

ANYWAY thats my long ass post, I've wanted to analyse the small emotions in these scenes for so long, and as said above - its all my thoughts! I'm a silly shipper so maybe I'm looking too into it I just love them

[xxx-theartofsuicide-xxx]

It occured to me that Astrid's demonic birthing scene, while rife with symbolism and references, doubles as a political statement to the question of whether or not it's okay to sexualize fictional characters. Whether or not Lydia is allowed to age has been and still is a huge point of contention among fans. We have new babes coming in every day trying to lay down rules for shipping beetlebabes, adamant that underage content is. Idk. Distasteful? Idk how these babes think, I've been here for too long and I have good taste.

Anyway, in one fell swoop Tim obliterated the absurd idea that Astrid isn't allowed to age or fuck or give birth. And I think that was really cool.

[rtfics]

"What are your theories about the movie's meaning?"

I . . . don't have any.

I've waited so long for this sequel, all I did was sit back and enjoy the miracle that it actually exists.

I'm not going to overthink it. I love it. There are some small parts I could live without -- don't see the point of the beetlebaby -- but what little I didn't care for I just don't worry about.

I'm not going to go into critical anaylsis of whether it was all a Beetlejuice-induced dream, or multiple realities, or Lydia over-dosing on pills, or Tim Burton just honoring every horror filmmaker who ever existed, or any of the theories I've heard are being debated about.

Honestly, I don't care.

I went for me and me alone. I don't care what other people think it "means."

I love it and had a helluva lotta fun. That's 100% more than any film I've seen in longer than I can remember. (I did enjoy Burton's Dumbo, but that's in spite of how shitty it was.)

What fanfic I may or may not write about it will also be just me playing with the sequel. Not me trying to explain what happened in the movie.

"Are you having problems with antis?"

No. I don't allow Asks or messages (the questions I get are from AO3, and I answer them here, because AO3 ain't social media). I Block antis instantly. *shrug* It's easy. And there aren't as many antis as there used to be. If other Beetlebabes are having problems, that's because they're engaging. If they're engaging, it's because they want to. I don't know, I don't Follow anyone who's arguing with antis. Seriously, Life is too fucking short.

[herefortheships]

Same, I don't like big time skips (which is why I said a "little time skip", but here I would like a few months time skip so that we can start with a Betelgeuse x Lydia dynamic going on. Six months to eight months, tops. My ideal would be six months or less lol. I think that'd be cool (but nothing like a year or something crazy like two years or more 😅 that would be WAY too much...)

All the Small Things...

One of the biggest benefits of Beetlejuice 3 starting with a time skip, if they decide to do it, is that they don't need to spend much time building a dynamic between Lydia and Betelgeuse, if they intent to give them their romantic endgame.

We already saw how they get along in BJBJ and how he continues haunting her at the end, so the base is set. If they do a little time skip, the movie can start with the two of them already having a more established kind of relationship from which the story can take off. They can build their endgame romantic relationship in a believable way, without even needing to have Keaton onscreen more than the amount of time he feels like Betelgeuse should be onscreen (we all know how he believes Betelgeuse can't be in the movie too much <-Totally disagree with him, though! At least for a BJ3 I really feel like he should be onscreen a lot more than 17 minutes).

Lydia and Betelgeuse could have developed a friendship offscreen (or a reluctant friendship, on Lydia's part). OR, better yet, they may totally be acting like an old married couple. They can be shown bickering about little things that only matter when two people care about each other a lot. (I just thought of that clip with a couple arguing because she was shoveling the snow and he didn't want her to do it because that's his job as the husband [I think he even said she was too cute to be doing that 😂]. I wish I could find the clip to put it here. lol)

Little head canon time 💜: Imagine if Betelgeuse acts like her husband whenever he pops up to haunt see her. He makes her coffee every morning; some days he even sets the table for her breakfast, and very night he arranges her slippers by the bed. Lydia acts annoyed, especially at first, "stop trying to see me!" "Just leave me alone, already!" But she secretly loves all the little things he does for her and has gotten used to it. And he does it all because he wants to; he did say he was going to make her happy. The wedding might have not gone through, but, does that matter to him? Nope! He can finally make contact; it's no longer such a long distance relationship anymore. He's gonna make the most of those little moments he can have with her.

And maybe it even takes a lot out of him; he has to focus really hard to appear around her without being summoned, but he doesn't care. He just wants to be there. Maybe he leaves her roses on her bed sometimes, and gets her bath ready for when she comes home from work. It's like someone's taking care of her at all times, but at the same time... He's not truly there. He can only pop in every now and then; he can't be there permanently unless she sets him free. So, when there's a morning Beej can't pop in and make her coffee, Lydia misses him and wonders why he didn't show up today. She has a phantom husband, always there, but also, not truly... Only in his absence does she realize what he's become to her. And that's how she's slowly fallen for him, because of All the Small Things.

[ghosthousewlydiadeetz]

We’ll see how long this lasts, but the sequel came out and I am in my Beetlejuice era! Again. This is a side blog (not sure how my followers on main feel about Beetlejuice). Likes and follows come from @shesasurvivor

The original movie has always been one of my favorites, and had a huge impact on me as a kid (even went as Lydia for Halloween once). The new movie has me in my feelings, and pushed me over into shipping Beetlejuice and Lydia (again? I might have shipped them when I was younger? I sadly can’t remember lol). My favorite iteration of their ship is in the sequel, because it resonates for personal reasons. But all Beetlebabes shippers welcome here!

Lastly, I’m slowly making my way through the animated series for the first time. I wasn’t allowed to watch it when it was on its first run and I was a very young kid, and by the time I was old enough to see the movie, it wasn’t easy to find. Loving it so far!

Eventually there may be fanfic.

[chaifootsteps]

I dislike and disagree with Viv in a lot of things, but I gotta agree with her when she says everyone is allowed to cope however they want and you don't get a say about the right way someone should cope, specially when it's in fiction. You are allowed to draw whatever u want. You are causing no harm to real people for drawing characters being raped. People can choose to interact or not with your content. Basically, if it triggers you, you have all the right to block and leave. No one is stopping you.

I think a lot of the defenses Viv makes for herself, and that other people make for her, are true in fandom spaces specifically. If a fan draws Angel being assaulted that's one thing, especially if it's tagged appropriately, but the situation with Angel has become something completely different.

Like, assume I wrote a really raunchy Beetlebabes fic where Lydia was 17. I haven't, and wouldn't, but assume for a second I did, and people thought it was disgusting or my right to do so as a survivor or just my general right to do so as a fan. Whatever camp you fall into.

Then, assume for a second they rebooted the Beetlejuice cartoon and for some ungodly reason, I got the job of showrunner. Complete studio backing, more money to do this than most people see in a lifetime. Then, assume I took every single opportunity to slip in references to my fic, even quoting it directly. All the while, I'm openly gushing over this ship with my friends on Twitter and throwing shade at people who criticized me for this, including survivors and actual minors.

That's a very, very different conversation then whether it's acceptable to slap up a fic on AO3.

[only-here-to-read-cas-au]

just ranting about beetlebabes

beetlebabe shippers: “I can’t believe the anti-shippers, they’re always saying like ‘block me’ so dramatic”

Anti-beetle babe shippers: “you… you’re promoting p*dophilia…”

It drives me crazy that beetlebabe shippers act like their ship should be respected and treated as any old fandom ship when it is literally in every form a promotion of p*dophilia and the s*xualization of a minor

like… I Don’t have to respect your ship actually

don’t harass/threaten people online for what they ship but I certainly don’t have to respect your opinion when it is morally unethical no matter what justifications you’ve come up with

and by the way I don’t care how “canon” it is or if certain creators or actors support it. I’m allowed to find the ship repulsive thank you very much :)

Like if you have to start asking questions like “What is REALLY the age of consent” to defend your ship you need to stop

Proudly be anti-beetlebabes

[appyjuiceappyjuiceappyjuice]

🪱✨"It's Showtime Baby!!"✨🍎

✨(okay hi guys this is Loki and remember I am a minor (15 years old) and an age regressor so absolutely no NSFW at all. if I don't respond i'm most busy I have a lot of sideblogs, or just asleep but I will get to you as soon as I can. please don't be mean to anyone and if your joking please make sure they know you are we don't want anyone's feeling to get hurt....you can contact me on my main blog @loki104-uwu or my Agere blog @tiny-little-godling. Hope you all have an amazing day Everyone!! <3)✨🐍

I have a 3 strike rule until your blocked but I don't like blocking people and I trust you guys will respect my rules X3

Remember this is an blog for my Beetlejuice fankid Appy Juice But overall my Beetlejuice blog, I don't really support Beetlebabes so yeah, also Asks and Rps are allowed, I love making new friends and oc/Sona interaction is very much allowed!

Just a lil ref sheet for Appy, if you want to see more go to my main blog @loki104-uwu and search #appy juice :3

Have an amazing day everyone!!

[darklinaforever]

I'm so in love with Beetlebabes at the moment, that I added a couple that reference them in one of my 5 volume stories. Basically, I added to my heroine (who is a witch) a medium aunt who is generally excluded from the family, and who is married to a redeemed demon. They appear in volume 2, 4 and 5. Basically, there are 3 types of demon in my universe. And obviously, there can be good ones, as well as bad ones. But so, there are those naturally connected to nature and therefore of a rather positive order, although they can be ambiguous morally speaking. Then there are those of a negative nature, which are in fact connected to hell. They literally come from there. And then there are those who evolved into demons after their death and therefore became ghosts. The aunt's demon husband is part of the 3rd category, and he therefore officially converted himself to the protection of nature and more particularly trees after meeting his dear one. I would like to point out that as a result, demons of the 3rd category can only be perceived and seen by mediums or witches. While other demons of other categories can be seen by anyone as long as they allow it themselves. They are naturally visible, unlike the demons of the 3rd category, but can therefore camouflage themselves if the desire takes them.

[dreamwreaver]

I agree with everything you said in your response to that ask. It's obvious Chaggie wasn't something she was always going for. What confuses me is her mindset of, well now that it's canon, I don't have to put in any work for this ship. Excuse me? What? Has Viv never shipped before. That's not how canon works. You have to make ppl care about the ship and she or the writers haven't done that. How is Chaggie good enough to become canon because of some fanart but not good enough for you to flesh out their relationship for ppl to care about? That's dumb as hell. For all that, she should've had them stay platonic. I'm not even a Chaggie shipper but the fact that the creator of this ship doesn't even care about them is disgusting. Nobody told her to make them happen. She did that herself.

Let's be honest, she's likely been on the internet long enough to know what shipping is, explaining her more cavalier attitude on fans shipping which used to be the norm. Her "ship what you want but don't be a dick to other people" attitude is precisely what old fandom used to be like before the influx of what I can only describe as normies decided they wanted to be a part of fandom.

See, the thing about the old internet (and by that I mean before the rise of mainstream social media platforms like Facebook, insta, Twitter, etc.) the internet by and large was by nerds for nerds. We kept the shit we liked online to ourselves irl and we definitely didn't talk directly to creators because it was understood that there was an invisible line we knew not to cross. You didn't harass actors or writers trying to get what you want. But the rise of mainstream meant the rise of accessibility to creators, and the trolls morphed into something much worse.

Look up the fiasco with Alex Brightman during the height of Beetlejuice on Broadway. The poor man was stalked, harassed, and asked over and over again if he condoned Beetlebabes, a ship which had kept that fandom alive for well over 30 years. Until he eventually released a statement so carefully combed over by PR experts only the people who lack media literacy took it at face value. It didn't reflect any previous attitudes he had on anything, and moreover it doesn't align with his current views considering the projects he's actively working on. In reality I don't think the man really gives a shit what people ship he was just sick of the harassment and likely worried that public outcries of him being a pedophile because of a fictional ship because he didn't actively condemn it and call for the harassment of people who did like it would ruin his career.

I have several friends who have come to hazbin from Beetlejuice, and many of them have met him pre pandemic. All of them say he's a lovely and sweet man with a good sense of humor. But imagine going through all he went through for over a year. Viv, and I hate to say it, went through something similar. I was pissed to find out toxic charlastor shippers on Twitter were harassing her to make it canon. So if that ship squicks her out now? I honestly don't blame her. Things are even more sticky with wlw or any gay relationships where you legitimately aren't allowed to portray them as complex or problematic. One thing I've noticed in particular is that male and straight ships are allowed to be as grossly sexualized as anything but women (or femme identified characters) cannot.

Look at all the chaggie art, not a single sexual thing. Even their official pinup stuff is fairly tame. Look at the Vees, despite the fact that velvette is an adult woman who died and is dating... Valentino I think? All the fandom sees is two gay dads and their uwu not sexually active daughter. Same with radioapple come to think of it, Charlie becomes a fully non sexual, almost Madonna figure in relation to the overt sexual nature of the gay ships. I'm guessing some of that still internalized homophobia and kink phobia coupled with sexist attitudes of what women can and cannot be interested in. Lesbian ships cannot be interested in sex, they must be pure and good. Meanwhile there's no end to overtly sexual art of the gay ships across the hellaverse. And the fans get rabid when any female ship isn't innately good and pure.

Another real world example; people flipped their shit when catradora became explicitly canon at the end of the she ra reboot. Because catra had gone through a corruption arc before a redemption one and therefore was forever culpable for the crimes she committed when in an obvious downward mental spiral after a life raised under an abusive mother figure and being abandoned by the person closest to her, and the major brainwashing of the Horde, but we don't have time to unpack all that. Ironic that in a show all about second chances and becoming better than the person you were these attitudes are still pervasive and ugly huh?

To a certain extent I think Viv has been on the internet long enough that she's seen what happens to creators who don't "perfectly" encapsulate a gay romance. Which means that it's unique while also being applicable to everyone. Totally an achievable standard right? (Insert sarcastic eye roll here). For her, I think making chaggie as boring in canon as possible was probably the safest move she could think of. I will critique it from a writing standpoint but overall it was the smartest choice to avoid backlash. I still prefer Vaggie/Emily and charlastor because it's two vastly most interesting dynamics, but I get why the writers might have been wary.

Sorry for the rant but unfortunately the depiction of chaggie wasn't created solely in a vacuum and there's a lot of cross fandom history context that needed to be brought up to explain why chaggie is the animated tofu of hazbin hotel ships.

[babes-week]

I wanted this year's Babes Week to center around the idea of 'Yes were sad that the musical is over but it just means another adventure is around the corner'. So in a way we're celebrating what's to come. I hope you all have fun with this week! Let the creativity take you to all the stange and unusual places only your imagination can produce! Have fun!

Create whatever you want as long as it fits within the theme of the day.  Writing, art, crafts, playlists, etc., it doesn’t matter!  Just create!

Just have fun!  Don’t feel pressured to participate, but share the work of others because everyone has always created gorgeous masterpieces. And don’t worry about getting the Day done on the same day, do these at your own pace, whether they take the rest of the week, a month or the rest of the year. This event isn’t going away after May 7th so don’t be afraid to submit whatever you want to contribute after the 7th.

Anonymous submissions will be allowed if you don’t feel comfortable posting your creation on your blog.  Send me a message @ldrmas or an ask privately and I will take care of it!

Note hate will be tolerated or responded to.  I’ll delete any negative comment or ask.  This week is meant to be fun and a way to encourage people to create!

Official Tag to find submissions: BeetleBabes Week 2023

If you have any questions, feel free to ask! 

Beautiful Art by @greatgaspiads​ 

[executiveproducedbytimburton]

anyway movie whatever musical whatever sequel whatever. animated beetlebabes did me best by understanding a particular unbidden fantasy some little girls have about an older man seeing the dreaming girl for who she is and liking her just the way she is and loving her in the way she wants to be loved. in a way that makes her feel loved. and he makes her laugh, and perhaps even waits for her. she is, to him, his best friend--he treats her as his equal (and in the case of Beetlejuice, we see him give up self-centered pursuits MANY TIMES! to be with Lydia and have fun with Lydia)--and in this fantasy he does not hurt her. he waits for her and is good to her, perhaps only to her if she knows him to be otherwise bad.

I see the art and I see the pure wishful thinking, the first red-rose romance the girl ever dreams of. I know the course of reality; the inevitable thorn’s sting. when the rose must be cut and the girl lose the scent of the flower, the softness of the petals, their dynamic bloom--and can only experience the fantasy through a lens that is merely rose-tinted, through which she can only see, not feel. having such art reflecting the fantasy, though, allows the little girl to know that rose again at a safe distance; making her own art, then (as she is encouraged to by seeing the art she has seen, the beautiful effect all art has) allows her to understand this dream of hers, and love the love she felt, safely. I know that little girl and I love her. ARTS FOR ARTS SAKE on a poster behind Miss Shannon telling me that the meaning I find is mine. if you don't get it then forget it ‘cause I don't have to fucking explain it

[xxx-theartofsuicide-xxx]

ngl im not really surprised winona ships beetlebabes and im not sure why others are. iirc she shipped veronica and JD when she was doing heathers. not sure why people are ok with that ship but not ok with beetlebabes but alright (this is coming from somebody who isnt really a shipper.)

Think about it from her perspective. Lydia was her breakout role. She was some teenage nobody on set with fucking Batman, and on top of the sheer stardom I'm sure MK was cool as fuck to her and in general a lovely person and costar. She obviously ships it, how could she not?

People freak out about beetlebabes bc it's one of the scary age gap ships. Misogynists think women and girls are too stupid to discern the difference between fiction and reality, and that we shouldn't be allowed to enjoy fictional relationships of this nature or else our dumb little girl brains will make us want to emulate it.

That's literally the argument.

Edit: MK wasn't in Batman until after Beetlejuice but idc my point still stands.

[itsaship-literally]

My god, this is going to sound SO silly but I NEED to vent or I'm going to explode.

Do not misunderstand me, I don't want to sound like one of those Beetlebabes haters who use age to complain about the ship even if it's meaningless, but seeing people EXPLICITLY sexualize underage Lydia is TRAUMATING to say the least.

Like, I'm not here to complain about these people because it would be very naive of me to think that they're going to stop because of me or any nonsense like that but... How do you guys usually deal with that? Really, I don't know what to do or think about the situation, I just know that it's bothering me a LOT. I know, I know, it's silly to care about it because I absolutely can't do anything about it, but it still hurts.

I'm sorry, I don't mean to exaggerate or anything, I don't mean to upset people either, but god, I feel so gross seeing this and at the same time I feel guilty for worrying too much or whatever… I saw that in yours blog you mention that you support ship in a sexual way when Lydia is older (Or something like that, forgive my poor memory), so how do you usually react/deal with this type of content? Or does it just not bother you?

I apologize for the outburst, but I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to have a nice experience in the fandom because of this... I just arrived, I don't want to leave because of this, but it's making it IMPOSSIBLE to enjoy. I feel like a dirty pedophile just for shipping, so I think seeing posts like this only makes it worse.

Um, anyway, I appreciate the attention :)

You know what, you bring up a good topic here. Before we start. I don't kink shame people because it's just not me. However! I had moments when I was younger (early 20's) that freaked me out when it came to over-sexualizing things (in my case it was bellydancers because that was my hobby at the time) but after a while, I sorta just stopped worrying about it because like you said, it won't change how people feel about their proclivities. The same goes for fandom. I ick after things too. (Example: the Dora the Explorer stuff. holy shit) Today, I learn that the best way to go about it is to not look for it. Don't seek the stuff that ick's ya. I don't much care for baby toon Lyds in adult situations but I can separate the idea that Lydia is an actual real person. I can take a story as just that. A story. As for art, I do not like Loli stuff. It's an ick for me. But I also don't judge a person for enjoying it. I would prefer to avoid it and I set my boundaries with my friends accordingly.

Back to Lydia in the Beetlejuice fandom!

Let's say you are a Shipper

Age of consent is a big deal for most here, including myself, but we are also realistic in the sense that many don't think that people give teens enough credit for their own biological functions. Let's take a step back to reality for a moment. 100%, It's not right for a real-life person to act on things like taking advantage of youth and naivete. However, it can not be dismissed that many people in their youth made choices based on their overactive hormones. I recall being one such teen where I allowed myself to act out in ways that, as an adult, I CRINGE at. To have Lydia as a 16-18 year-old act out with an undead creep feels plausible. Does everyone here feel that's a comfortable read? No, not at all. Many, like me, prefer to have an older, more informed Lydia make choices that work for her. Now about Beetlejuice. First off. He's a creep. If it's got tits or whatever suits his fancy, he's gonna jump on it. He's always been that way in media. Except with Lydia. His respect for her, and his treatment of her have always been different from other people. He'll probably take any advantage given to him and if his death was during a plague-riddled time then his view of human women could easily be skewed. Again it comes to how comfortable you are with his characterization. Do you want him chasing a 12-year-old, a 16-year-old, or an adult? Do you think he would go for body type? Do you think he would choose feelings over physical desires? Your best bet in navigating the whole Betelyds/Beetlebabes dynamic comes from understanding yourself. Are you confident in separating your choices in romance from alternate depictions? Do you prefer a more Ace approach of no romance/sexuality? Do you like a soft romance with no raunch? Do you want sexuality and passion in a more adult setting? Check with tags. Look for underage warnings. Talk to writers and artists to see what they do. Skim over or remove yourself from places that ick ya. Ask questions of yourself and others. There is no harm in discovering your boundaries and respecting those who have set theirs.

Now let's say you are a Friendshipper only.

You want Beej and Lyds to be pals with a slight affection for each other that defies a normal buddy pal. Maybe they have something that can't be defined as a friend but also not a romantic relationship. I like to consider this Babes Adjacent. They are not romantically linked but they are bonded. Soul mates without being physical mates. We have plenty of Babes who love friendship just as much. Some prefer to be called non-shippers, and others don't really care. They just wanna vibe. Some of them like Kid Lyds and her ghostly Boo. They support and care and protect each other like there is no tomorrow. It's painfully sweet and heartbreakingly loving. So many of us need that in our lives. Unconditional support and protection from things that make us hurt. In this case search for the & and not the / if you can. If folks are willing to send me art and fics where this bond is emphasized, I'd appreciate it. I admit I have a fear of finding a fic of someone who is gonna freak when they see my screen name and go "Noooooooo not a Beetlebabe!". That's a stress I don't enjoy. I just wanna vibe and watch these two dorks be happy with each other. Now to address your last fear, that you feel like a dirty p-word. All you gotta do is know where you stand on your attraction. It comes down to knowing yourself. Personally, I like an older man and older lady (Bi-mama here) but I don't shy away from stories with younger characters. I don't squick because I know my preferences are not reflected in getting lost in a story. With all the love and support I can send ya through the blog. Please don't feel ashamed for enjoying a ship (friendship or relationship). Just set your preferences and find your inner confidence. Stay polite to those who have different levels of shippiness. You can navigate the ship. I believe in you.