#neva namekian

[cuttyclowngirl]

Daima Ep.1 (spoiler) review:

•Clearly every single Buu saga related thing Degesu and King Gohma review is not only a refresher course for them,but also a list of things we, the audience must keep in mind.

(Sadly, many people don't understand that was the point...)

•Aside from tying demon lineage to the Namekians/nearly every character with pointy ears (barring the Kais who are still born from fruit), many people tend to gloss over King Gohma mentioning that pointy ears are also tied to magic users to some degree. (Mentioned while watching Goku vs Majin Vegeta) I'm sure the show will explain these ties in further detail going forward, but alas, it's left many people confused.

•This "Evil Third Eye" (Tertian Oculus) that grants immense power is probably either gonna look as silly as a googly eye or look metal AF. There's no in-between with Toriyama.

•Not only have a new set of balls been introduced, but rather than simply picking them up off the ground, Goku will likely be the one battling the guardians of said balls. (Possibly with help from Glorio and Panzy)

•White magic and Dark magic are mentioned. Perhaps the Demon realms dragon balls can only grant negative/evil wishes. We'll have to see.

•King Gohma is going to visit all three worlds in the demon realm for his coronation party and speak to (introduce us to) even more demons (Majins) and lore. (Hopefully)

•Neva, the Namekian of the demon realm, who is thousands of years old is clearly an extremely powerful magic user and thankfully seems to be the chatty type who will likely drop tons of Namekian lore. I hope. Also, he's stinky.

[upgradewater]

it's a bargain sale on namekian grandpas

[kappaskulljoke]

[saiyamekianprincess]

I swear if Neva is Zalama....

[dragon-ball-meta]

Just Finished Daima Ep 1

Very interesting. Daima is still technically set DURING Super, but not at the point we all thought. Seems the trailers used designs specifically not in the final product, hence the confusion. But it's actually set in the years-long gap between Episodes 2 (set shortly after Buu's defeat) and 3 of Super. Trunks is turning 9, so this is about two years (or less) post-Buu. The Namekian Neva, though... now HE'S one of the more interesting additions to the series for me. Very interested to learn more about him and why he seems to have abilities no other Namekian has. This first episode alone has me super intrigued, so many lore implications here. (Edited to correct the episode number placement)

[tamashi-tai-tamashi]

Time for my little review of Dragon Ball Daima episode 2 !

It was a good episode, I enjoyed it a lot!! Really, for now Daima is great and doesn't disappoint me !

Some little things about the series :

I don't remember if I said it before, but Daima is visually beautiful. The animation, designs, character designs, everything is great and cool to watch ! Which is by the way amazing after the visual mess that Dragon Ball Super was.

The opening and ending are great 🎶

Now about the episode in itself :

The lore keeps being amazing and interesting ! That little thing about how the Namekians/Namekujin left the Daima world was very interesting, for example !

I love the little teasings about the characters and their lives. For now many of them are mysterious, we all want to know more about them, and this episode does a good job teasing us a bit and making us even more interested ! The parts about Gomah, about Kaïoshin's past and his brother, about Neva's backstory... I am hyped not gonna lie ! I can't wait to learn more about Neva, to understand why they said Gomah was so dangerous while for now he just looks like a clown, to know what's Kaïoshin's relationship with his brother...

The humor was great. Seriously, it was so funny. That line when Shenron said he only gave three wishes to the regulars cracked me up lol. All the episode was funny and I really liked it!

Gokū with his Nyoibō!!!! One of my favourite parts!!! I was so happy to see Gokū with his Nyoibō again!!! I had missed it!! The Nyoibō was such an important object in the first Dragon Ball series/at the beginning of the manga, it was emblematic, and I had missed it in DBZ/DBS/the rest of the manga, so I was sooooo happy (and a bit nostalgic!) when I saw Gokū with it again!

Kid Vegeta is adorable. Nothing to add.

I love Gokū's personality and energy, in this ep and in the first two. He looks more like himself, and it's cool. DBS gave him such a shitty personality, and I was afraid we would see that version of him again, but for now it's not the case and it's a good thing!

Gokū as a kid is even more adorable. Still nothing to add.

I like how Bulma treats Kibito as her servant. Go on Queen.

The seiyus (voice actors) are amazing! Masako Nozawa is OF COURSE incredible but I'll talk about it later because she deserves her own point haha. I didn't mention it a lot after the first episode because the characters we love didn't talk that much, but the seiyus are great. Of course, it's still weird to hear that new voice for Bulma, but her original seiyu died (💔) some years ago so they didn't have another choice, her new seiyu honestly does a great job! Same for all the other seiyus, I love the new characters' voices, and the seiyus of the characters we already knew are still doing a perfect job! For now in Daima, I especially love Vegeta's and Piccolo's seiyus' work - and obviously the best is still queen Masako Nozawa !

Masako Nozawa. What can I even say about her ? What a queen, what a goddess, what a legend. Those of you who only watch the dub don't know what you miss because NOBODY can voice a character the way Masako Nozawa voices Gokū, and nobody can voice Gokū the way Masako Nozawa voices Gokū. There's no word to describe how talented she is, how incredible Gokū's voice is, how amazing the passion she puts in her work is! Can you believe that she's almost 90??? That's CRAZY. She's a LEGEND.

It was so, so, so great to hear her voice Kid Gokū again! I love her Kid Gokū voice! I was smiling like an idiot during the whole episode just because of that! And of course it made me nostalgic but in a happy way haha, I had flash-backs of Kid Gokū meeting Bulma for the first time and going on adventures with her and I loved it.

The only little thing I didn't like was Neva saying he couldn't bring back the Dragon Ball like he did a second time. Didn't seem very logical, it kind of sounded like script facility, it was a bit lazy. Of course they couldn't make him do that twice but it would have been better if they'd explained why before. But that's like... a very very little flaw so it doesn't really matter. Edit : someone in the comments told me that they thought Neva was just fucking with us because he didn't want Gomah to do what he wanted to do with that wish and it actually makes a lot of sense, I think it's what happened!

I WANNA SEE GOHAN. WHERE IS GOHAN? I just KNOW something will happen with him, but what? Can't wait to know!

Anyway, this episode was really great, I really like Daima so far, I am sooo hyped and I can't wait to see the next episode!

Hope everyone enjoyed it too :)

[pushovermediacritic]

I think Dragon Ball Daima will have a twist main villain.

I don't think the final boss will be Gomah. They've already foreshadowed that Gomah could gain unbelievable power with the Evil Third Eye, but having "unbelievable power" be tied to an artifact that needs to be equipped and can be lost makes it ripe for betrayal and subversion.

The way I see it, there are two main candidates for True Main Villain of Dragon Ball Daima.

The first is Dr. Arinsu.

She's the most obvious choice. She's an evil scientist with a design that is reminiscent of Towa. She's also a Core Person, the sister of the Makaioshin. And she's been shown to be sneaky and scary already. If they want to canonize Towa, or something like her, Dr. Arinsu is the best bet.

But I think she's a red herring. I think she will have a moment where it looks like she'll be the True Main Villain, only for it to fall out from under her.

The second is Neva.

Yes, the geriatric old man Namekian. I think Neva will be the twist main villain of Dragon Ball Daima. The first episode set him up as this stinky old grandpa, until it revealed that he's actually extremely powerful in Dragon Ball magic, able to sense, summon, and restore Earth's Dragon Balls. And also extremely knowledgeable.

Also the episode subtly revolves around him. Gomah can't use the Demon World Dragon Balls because all three of them are guarded by Kamen Rider-looking creatures called Tamagamis. I think the Tamagamis are obviously going to be mini-bosses for Goku to fight near the end of the series, but it should be remembered that Neva created both the Dragon Balls and the Tamagamis themselves.

In order for Neva to create the powerful Tamagami warriors, he must have used some very powerful creation magic indeed. These are guardians that Gomah, the current Demon King, is terrified of, and they bow to Neva. No-one has made a wish on the Dragon Balls for a long time because of those Tamagami warriors, and that presumably includes Dabura, back when he was Demon King.

The episode also makes multiple references to Namekian lore, almost like it's an important plot point.

Neva says that he hasn't seen a Namekian in thousands of years. Thousands. PLURAL. That's insanely long-lived, even for a Namekian. The climate catastrophe that Kami was sent away from only happened 500 years ago. He did this favor for Gomah in exchange for having 1000 more years of life, presumably this isn't the first time he's made deals like this to artificially extend his lifespan.

My assumption is that collecting the Demon World Dragon Balls is going to be Goku's main quest in the Demon World, for whatever reason. And I think Neva has some grand master plan, where he created the Tamagamis and sealed away the Demon World Dragon Balls for some reason, and now that he's met other Namekians and the Evil Third Eye will be found, that will be the moment he's been waiting for.

Also, he just gives me creepy vibes. Maybe it's the black rings around his eyes that make it look like he knows more than he's letting on. Maybe it's the fact that his eyes turned red when using magic, or he let out an evil cackle when restoring the Dragon Balls.

[deusvervewrites]

Dragon Ball Daima episode 2 just came out, and Kibito confirmed that having pointy ears is NOT NECESSARILY a sign of being a demon. Specifically, it was stated that most races with pointy ears are demons and in the distant past a large number of demon races left the Demon World before it was regulated. Meaning that Dodoria may have been in fact a demon, though considering his inability to sense ki and lack of the weird abilities or magic most known demons have I'm not counting on it.

Also, Piccolo was apparently aware that Namekians have lived in the Demon Realm, as he recognized Neva as the name of a Namekian that STAYED THERE to protect the local Dragon Balls and has heard that ancient Namekians left because they didn't like to be ruled. He hasn't said explicitely that they are demons, but it seems more likely.

And now that we know many races with pointy ears are originally demons and that the Namekians have migrated to both Universe 6 and 7... Maybe the Yardratians are demons too, they have pointy ears (or some of them do), have a weird ability in the form of Spirit Control, and are found in at least two universes...

Huh

[notahorseindisguise]

do you think that old namekian from dragon ball daima can fuck or not, like is the ancient slug man dick trash

GOOD QUESTION. i personally am of the opinion, despite my deep attraction to piccolo, that namekians are smooth like barbie dolls, because they reproduce asexually and so it would make no biological sense for them to have sexual reproduction organs. HOWEVER

he does seem to have an old man charm to him . at this stage it remains unclear whether or not he fucks as it stands, however i am fairly certain a younger, more attractive neva, definitely fucked

[upgradewater]

daima ep 2 - stuff I noticed, relating to this episode or not

(find me on bluesky for more, I think I might be leaving twittxr soon)

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Three Demon Worlds

The Demon Realm's 3 sectors were teased in some of the initial posters, before we knew there were 3 different distinct areas and 3 Dragonballs/3 Tmagami to go with them. I assume the Tamagami will be in each area above as pictured in the opening. (Water area?! Let's goooo)

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A Devilish Symbol

Another early tease was the symbol used on these soldiers' armour. Clearly the logo has horns that resemble Gomah, but also we can see the coveted Evil Third Eye in the logo?! Toriyama is a genius. The horns could also resemble Dabura, or maybe any other Demon King? Maybe the main Demon realm as a whole?

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Our New Daima Dragon

Initially, I saw this random shot in the opening, and I thought "oh no, please don't let this guy be the new dragon." Dragon, you may ask? Well, yeah. Glowing red eyes, purple and yellow theme to match the Daima logo, unseen lower half, and horns that aren't too different from the Porunga we know. (Degesu said he knew of Porunga, but didn't seem to know about the U7 Planet Namek and their DB set, so I assume their OG Demon Realm Dragonball set will also be named Porunga. Super Porunga, maybe, to differentiate. Speaking of that, you can hear Neva uttering a Namekian summoning phrase at the beginning of one of the final trailers. Dorusie is the name, going by other Namekian summoning passwords, maybe? Dorushie?) Plus there's the whole thing of Toriyama occasionally reusing designs, and there's a similar bull design he used in Blue Dragon, where the Shadows stretch out from their wielders like dragon gods do in DB. Howeverrrr--

What if all the feathers in the opening/ending aren't only a tribute to Toriyama? (That's self explanatory, right? Not to mention the opening lyrics sneaking in his name.) I'm not gonna deny that the feathers are related to Toriyama.

What if the feathers are alluding to a feathered dragon? All the opening's shots with feathers show Goku as an adult, and while the ending's feather bits definitely feel more like a Toriyama homage with the sentimental lyrics, there is a clear shape at the very end... Maybe not just a bird.

[cuttyclowngirl]

Daima Ep.2 (Spoilers) review/theories

•Shenron is a troll and basically confirmed he considers the z fighters & co his homies, so no Evil Third Eye (Tertian Oculus) for King Gohma... Yet. Also, at least King Gohma won't stoop to baby k*lling, though kidnapping is still bad. It's extra motivation for our protags though.

•Neva thankfully can't spam kidnapping/reviving D balls. At least not Earth's D balls. Neva also won't just hand over his D balls to anyone no matter what who they are it seems. Tamagami's look like they'll put up a good fight.

•Always wondered what was under Popo's turban. Kinda cute. He kept his cool, probably assuming Goku & crew can help. Chi-Chi & Bulma react exactly as expected. I hope kid Roshi doesn't get too weird about this. Also, proof that Goten & Trunks were born to be best friends.

•Bulma's staff members have great designs. Hope they get fanart. And Bulma taking advantage of Kibito's teleportation is a classic Toriyama bit.

•So Namekians were free spirited demons who migrated out of the demon realm, leaving Neva alone with his responsibilities. (As stated by Piccolo who never had a reason to bring him up till now.) Other demons had done so as well, until it became forbidden without permission. Not even "Kai-Kai" can teleport you into the demon realm. Goku & crew definitely don't have permission, which will lead to trouble.

•Thank goodness being turned into kids is actually affecting the Z-fighters and their not just going "Oh well!" Y'know?

•BLOOD! YIPPEE! NYOIBO! HOORAY! NIMBUS! WOO - oh...

•Thank goodness the pointy ears thing was cleared up so early, cuz some people were immediately becoming annoyingly dismissive out of confusion.

•Shin's (Supreme Kai) ship (beaten up during G & V's fight with K Buu) definitely ties into the collective backstory of him & his siblings. Flashbacks ahead, for sure.

•Confirmation that the 3 demon worlds have their own rulers beneath the Supreme King of the entire realm. (Toriyama was so jrpg story-pilled.) The opening featured who is likely former Supreme King Abura(Dabura's father). We'll probably get a specific flashback showing how the Tertian Oculus was lost. Looks like it appears 43 seconds into the opening. Metal design confirmed.

•While the feathers in the intro and outro are likely tributing Toriyama-sensei, I can't help but wonder if the feathers coincidentally also belong to a new creature that will help Goku in a major way. Perhaps the demon realm equivalent to Toki-Toki? There's also the shots with focus on water in the intro. I suspect they hint at the Namekian's original demon Homeland.

•Theory : Dr Arinsu is clearly manipulative and was mentioned to have already visited Earth, probably collecting all sorts of Intel. My theory is that she's manipulating Glorio, Panzy, and the 3rd world King to get rid of King Gohma, while also tricking Goku & crew into collecting Neva's D balls to obtain the Tertian Oculus/becoming Demon Queen. Explains why Glorio seems to know too much. The whole "the 3rd demon world King told me." Thing doesn't necessarily explain why Glorio already knew about the current situation. Glorio said "I was given the request in secret to come get you." A little convenient, yeah?

•I teared up at the OP & ED.

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daima time-ah

blabbering about ep 1!

spoilers obv

btw I blabbered a lot on twxtter about it a lot, so I'm likely gonna repeat myself here.

First of all.

NEW DRAGON BALL SET

NEW STINKY OP NAMEKIAN GRANDPA HACKING EARTH'S DBS LIKE IT'S NOTHING

DESIGNATED DB GUARDIANS NO ONE DARES TO FUCK WITH

NAMEKIANS "OTHER WORLD" ORIGIN LORE DROP FROM THE SUPER MANGA HAD PAYOFF IN LINKING BACK TO THEM BEING FROM THE DEMON REALM, ALONG WITH THE LINK BETWEEN "DEMON KING" PICCOLO AAAAA

was this made for me??? this feels specifically made for me.

And then there's also:

White vs black magic, specifically talking about wishes and what Shenlong won't do

The new DB set is known as Porunga, so I'm really looking forward to the design!!! Porunga OG, the prequel!

Shenlong being hesitant and oddly specific about the age wish and what to do with ones who are already kids, but then deciding for himself who the wish effects. (You could say Chichi stood up to Buu, but 18? Bulma? You could really include everyone who contributed to the genkidama lol)

DEGESU AND GOMAH BEING SILLY and Degesu being related to Shin! And Arinsu is also their sister?!?

That's Kaioshin, Namekian, and DB lore lovers all being fed a feast in this one episode. Upcoming Majin lore with Pansy, I suppose too.

Arinsu potentially could be the first main Big Bad Lady???? And she's pulling the strings from the start???? Amazing.

I think the fact that there is already THIS much (even though it was a slightly longer premiere episode) to talk about just in story and new lore is... Just wow. Who would have thought when Super was at its end that we would be here a few years later with not only story content, but animation QUALITY. Soundtrack quality as well.

I'm so happy to be around for this period of DB. It's so fun. And bittersweet with the timing of Toriyama's sudden (?) death. But so magical.

I don't think I shared this sketch here? Here's my guess at a Super Porunga of sorts.

As a side note, here are some things I guessed correctly from the trailers:

Neva hacking the DBs via auto-summoning

New DB set/new Namekian grandpa (though I thought it might be Zalama) based on the spell in one of the later trailers. (Does this mean the dragon's name is part of the spell? Dorusie? Dorushiē? We'll see. He does say it twice though.)

Other stuff that remains to be seen:

What Arinsu's goals are

What wish does Degesu want? (Surely this will be a silly gag)

What will the other 2 wishes actually be used for?

What the fuck is that Eye item Gomah mentioned? Tenshinhan relevant???

Will they try to go to Namek first, but they'll all be affected too? Please show me tiny Porunga.

Alternatively, it would be funny if Gomah and Degesu hopped along to Namek to summon Porunga for more wishes, and Neva could probably push past the password part. Hence why our main team have no choice but to head to the Demon Realm. The first part likely won't happen as long as they don't find out about the planet though.

Gohan. I have seen discussion about him coming in clutch and having his powers as he's there only one that was in pretty good fighting shape at age 6/7. Please show our boy and tiny Videl.

Okay I'm gonna have to turn my brain off now. But anyway EP 1 stopped at such a great point. I'm so in love with this production and love how positive it has been received. We're so back. I can't wait for Friday.