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lana-llama-in-pajamas · 10 months ago

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thick as blood

sweet as milk

pt.3

you woke up sore and oddly over heated, you opened your eyes to see something a 12 year old boy would dream up both the twins cuddled up to you arms hugging you close, you looked down to see you were in a nightgown and they were in slips they possibly wore under their dresses from last night. Els leg was wrapped in cellophane probably fearful of the wound bleeding through you smiled softly looking up at your ceiling hearing their breathing synced together, the smell of their French perfumes with the combination of sweat was actually pretty calming (damn twins are in your bed even before Francis 💀)

you closed your eyes again wanting to catch a bit more rest before getting up for the day, what felt like minutes was actually an hour. you woke up again with the twins gone, you got up rubbing your eyes walking out to the living room hearing talking "you think she's even eaten a meal a day?" a deeper feminine voice asked it wasn't the twins " I don't think you could call bread and jam a meal" another voice said, you peeked in the kitchen to see the twins, mia and gloria all in the kitchen. gloria cooking on the stove as mia and sel unpacked groceries putting them in the proper places, elenois sat at the window mixing something in a bowl. you felt so cared for, your pain from your injuries disappearing for a second, you got caught by mia who walked over with selenne "your awake! so sorry we let ourselves in dear" mia hugged you gently before selenne wrapped her arm around your shoulders "you should go shower we're making brunch" you nodded "no worries miss stone but please send me the receipt for the food" you spoke softly realizing your voice was still strained "oh don't insult me y/n I'm not hurting for money, now go get cleaned up I'm gonna make some tea" she pushed you to the bathroom making selenne giggle walking back to the kitchen

you did strip yourself of your slip and bandages examining yourself in the mirror, bruises kissed your body with indents of the stairs in your back. the memory of the creatures claws ran across your legs with your ankle matching Elenois, it was lightly scarred so you washed yourself gently hissing anytime you had to bend down. you left the shower walking back to your room to change, the girls brought out the table into the living room filling it foods and spare plates, you changed into something less formal putting on some music to lighten your mood

everyone gathered in the livingroom, sitting and passing plates as gloria sat near you looking over your vinyls ¨you do got some bad bruises baby¨ she gently grabbed your arm looking it over, you hissed a little making her let go ¨sorry baby¨ she handed the first loaded plate to you ¨come sit and eat, we know damn well you havent had a vegtable since you came in¨ you smiled thanking the sweet woman trying your best to be polite while eating but she was right you were starving, honestly its a miracle you were able to fight the equivelent of a animal on bread, fruit jam and milk alone. everyone ate and talked as gloria filled your plate to replace what you had ate whispering ¨your in your home, eat with the hunger you have¨ hearing that had you eating mouthfuls only listening to the conversation instead ¨natcha and her little one wouldve come but natcha didnt want her to overwhelm you with questions¨ mia said to you ¨she got you and the twins flowers though¨ you nodded finishing your 2nd plate ¨ill need to send her a thank you note soon¨ everyone nodded in agreement as a knock was heard at the door, you got up wiping your mouth opening it slowly to show most of the men ¨honey i thought you were at work¨ gloria asked as everyone walked over ¨i was but im on lunch, here you go miss l/n your one courageous little lady¨ arnold passed you a small bouquet and kissed his wife good bye then one after another your other neighbors gave you gifts of gratitude, even lois margeret and raftellyn came in with food n flowers low key inviting themselves in.

at the very end natasha came and held up a tin tray to you ¨my mom is at work but she made this for you or whatever¨ you smiled taking the tray and placing on on the table with everything else ¨your mom does so much tell her thank you for me¨ you bent down to talk with her ¨....yeah ok.....did it bite you? are you infected with something? my mom said you saved us and killed it or whatever, does that mean your a murderer or a monster killer?¨ she kept asking things making your head swim but luckily you had a savior ¨she's a monster killer. a hero little Natasha.¨ Francis said sternly also holding a gift in his hands ¨oooh ok....whatever bye hero lady¨ she said waving and walking out ¨here Natasha take a plate¨ mia walked over leading her back to her door ¨uh....um thank you ¨ you looked up blushing ¨for?¨ he asked putting down the basket of fruit and wine bottle in his hands ¨err...uh everything, carrying me, bringing me this¨ you gestured to the basket ¨telling the little one I'm a hero..¨ you looked down intimidated by his hard gaze ¨those gifts are from the DDD. I didn't get the memo we were making your apartment a floral shop.¨ it almost sounded like a joke but he said it so blankly with irritation ¨oh well would you like a pla-¨ ¨you didn't get her something?¨ Margarette said loudly ¨for shame young man she pulled a gun out what could you pull? a bottle of milk?¨ she laughed as the others giggled uncomfortably ¨like I said I didn't get the memo. but I will show my gratitude¨ you turned beet red wondering what he meant by this, the twins felt your forehead ¨you should sit, Francis please help yourself¨ they brought you back to the couch as Francis followed Lois made him a plate and sat right by him ¨aside from this loud mouth, I didn't know you had those types of muscles Francis" god you were uncomfy now "i carry crates of milk i think its self explanatory" he shot back making Lois flustered by the full stop, at this point you weren't sure if Natasha was his, it seems like he doesn't have a filter...or feelings.

soon the awkward feelings subsided and everyone talked about their jobs, marriage and mia's and the dr's wedding plans.

you were in the kitchen looking over your gifts, mostly flowers and chocolate but it seems the Dr. got you a jewelry set, and so did the cappuccin's. the flowers came with cards you read and stacked together, one stuck out to you .

the fruits basket and wine.

it was champagne and fancy fruits (just to set the scene mangos and kiwis were considered 'exotic' in this era) you read the card

dear y/n you did well, enjoy your week off. another agent will take your place so don't let your guard down completely but do relax. rex

you smiled grabbing 2 vases of flowers wondering where to put them. Francis put his plate in the sink staring at you as he leaned against it "...you know who also hasn't gifted you anything....Gauss" he spoke lowly, was he...talking gossip? "why do you think?" you entertained him preening one of the flowers "he feels emasculated. since he isn't the American hero he's pissed" he chuckled making you shiver a little, it made sense though gauss seemed the macho type but that didn't matter , it was the way he said 'American hero' it was very accented "are you not emasculated by me Francis?" you asked walking closer to him even if your knees started to feel like jelly with every step "not at all, i was raised by strong women." he looked down at your level as you could breath in his cologne, strong sweet and alcohol like. " Francis i wonder a lot of things about you" you spoke truthfully like his eyes pulled it out of you "i am a book y/n, you just have to open it and read" his face was so close to yours.

you were swooning, eyes fluttering as you could almost imagine his lips on yours. his cologne was like a drug putting you under, you were in a full day dream before hearing another dark quiet laugh "how unbecoming of you...you know so little about me and yet your ready to throw yourself at me" he held up your chin with his hand as if you were a dog.

he walked away excusing himself to everyone before walking out

you shuddered taking a deep breath hoping to smell him one last time "he teased me....the bastard teased me and left."

im sorrry it tookk so looooongg!!! but here it is my loves enjoy!!! let me know if you like or hate (´▽`ʃ♡ƪ)

#milkman x reader #thats not my neighbour milkman #thats not my neighbor #francis mosses #francis mosses x reader #francis mosses x you

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becauseimanicequeen · 5 months ago

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The Timelines in 4 Minutes in Chronological-ish Order After 6 Episodes

Now that we have some more backstory after this week's episode, I will try to make an outline of the real past timeline in chronological order (I'm basing this off the 6th episode showing us the real past rather than Tyme's OOBE timeline). And then, at the end, I will make some notes about other timelines.

Before I start, I also make a note of my terminology:

4MP stands for "4-minute phenomenon", which is what Den calls it in his research. I use this for every moment that Great goes back in time to do things differently.

OOBE stands for "out-of-body-experience". I use it when I write about Great and Tyme's OOBE timelines.

GTs timelines stand for "Great and Tyme's timelines", which I use for those scenes where I think their timelines interweave and it's difficult to see where one ends and the other begins.

GKs timelines stand for "Great and Korn's timelines", which I use for those scenes where I think their timelines interweave.

(Explanations and sidenotes will be highlighted in purple.)

Now, let's get into it.

The Past-Past

These are events that took place before Great goes to school in the 1st episode. They may have happened several years in the past.

Since these events take place way before Great has his OOBE, I'm assuming (at least right now) that these events are real.

I made a note about Tyme and Great probably having met each other already in the past after watching the 6th episode (and then I found out in the tags and comments that there might be child actors playing Tyme and Great as kids), so we might get to see that this story starts a lot earlier than we've seen so far.

(Ep. 4:)

But, from what we've seen so far, I think the first point in the past-past is shown through Tonkla's memory as he's burying his cat. Korn is also there and tells him to save the red cat collar as a memento.

This is from his Uni days (I think), and that's most likely a couple of years before we see him introduced in the 1st episode.

(Ep. 4:)

We have another one of Tonkla's memories, this time of Korn and Tonkla having sex together for the first time. We also find out Tonkla and Dome are moving out of their family's home (and, most likely, into the house Korn paid for), and that Korn promised to go public with Tonkla when he's graduated and taken over his dad's company.

(Ep. 5:)

We have a flashback of Tyme reading his mom's diary, and then another flashback of Tyme treating Nan at the hospital.

Obviously, I'm unsure about when these two events actually happened since it could've been several years ago. But, I'm thinking this has something to do with what Natcha said when she broke up with Tyme, that he'd changed in the past two years. That's probably where he first read his mom's diary and then met Nan so he could plan a way to take down Chanin's company.

(Ep. 1:)

As Great wakes up from his nightmare of hitting Manee, we get a montage of Den talking to patients who've experienced cardiac arrests. It's the montage I'm referring to here.

The reason I think Den's research scenes are in the past-past is because I believe this is the research Den did before he told Tyme that the contents of his box were the information he'd kept from the patients who experienced cardiac arrest.

(Ep. 1:)

Lukwa tells Den about her experience during her cardiac arrest.

The Real Past

This is everything that happened between the past-past and up to the point where Great has a cardiac arrest and Tyme is shot (which may or may not happen at the same time, btw).

(Ep. 1:)

This section starts when Great goes to the garage and takes his white car (a Nissan?) to school.

(Ep. 1:)

At the same time, we have Korn walking into his dad's office. He gets a new position at the company. Then he passes Great's mom on his way out, and she enters the office to talk to Chanin about Great.

I think we can all agree that this scene happened in the real past. That means that every time we see the family photo standing on the left and the lion statue facing the windows (on Chanin's desk), it means this is the real past.

The reason I'm noting this is because I've seen inconsistencies in the placement of the family photo and the lion statue (which I believe is telling of whether the scene is from the real past or not).

(Ep. 1:)

Great gets a call from Title as he's driving to school. Title asks him about a calculator.

I am a little unsure about this one, but the clock on the car and Great's watch match up to 12:39 while he's alone in the car. And we all know that whenever Great is alone in his timeline, he sees 11:00 (11:01, 11:02, and 11:03) instead. His time anomaly hasn't started yet, which is why I'm leaning towards the real past for this one.

(Ep. 1 + 6:)

Great hits Manee and drives off.

(Ep. 6:)

Tyme is at the hospital, watching the news of the hit-and-run. Then Den shows up and tells Tyme about his research, but Natcha calls and interrupts them.

(Ep. 1:)

Korn arrives at the headquarters for the illegal gambling sites and gets an introduction by Samarn to how the place is run.

(Ep. 6:)

Natcha breaks up with Tyme.

The reason I put this scene after Korn's scene and not directly after Tyme and Den's scene is because it looks more like dusk when Natcha breaks up with Tyme while it looks like the middle of the day when Korn arrives at the gambling headquarters.

(Ep. 1:)

We're introduced to Tonkla, Korn arrives, they talk, they fuck, the end.

I've put the second part of this sequence (where Tonkla wants another round) in the section of the other timelines below, which I'm basing on some inconsistencies in the details in this first part compared to the second part. (Also, the second part includes Tonkla's dead cat, which might also indicate that the second part is in another timeline.)

(Ep. 6:)

Great's family dinner. Chanin is pissed at Great and storms out of the dining room.

(Ep. 1:)

Tyme comes home to his grandmother and they have dinner together while he tells her that he will soon make enough money so they can both have a better life.

(Ep. 2:)

Tyme overhears the nurses talk about him and Natcha breaking up.

This could just as well be in Tyme's OOBE timeline as here in the real past, but I'm putting it here because we actually saw Natcha break up with Tyme in the real past.

(Ep. 2:)

Dome witnesses Title and View fighting.

(Ep. 2:)

Dome tells Mod that he saw Title and View together the night before. Title disagrees, which leads to Title confronting Dome by the basketball court.

(Ep. 6:)

Great talks to Title on the phone asking him about Dome's video. Title says he's almost at Great's condo. The clock shows 10:43.

Btw, as you will notice in this post, one of the reasons I love this show so much is because there's so much attention to detail. Just look at this frame from this scene in 2nd episode:

Compared to this frame from the 6th episode:

The lights behind Great (excluding the lava lamp) are different because they're from different timelines. I love that attention to detail.

(Ep. 6:)

Title kills Dome and Great helps him throw Dome into the water.

(Ep. 6:)

Great is still awake at 04:50, thinking about how he killed Manee and then watching Title kill Dome.

(Ep. 6:)

Great goes to the hospital to pick up sleeping pills, stress relievers, and paracetamol. Tyme overhears Great saying his full name, which leads him to follow Great out of the hospital and film him as he drives away.

(Ep. 6:)

Tyme approaches Great at the bar.

(Ep. 6:)

Great and Tyme have sex and Tyme films it.

(Ep. 6:)

Tyme uploads the video of them having sex on the internet (onto a site called FourhubxXx, btw).

(Ep. 6:)

Chanin finds out about the video of Great and a man having sex and confronts Great about it.

I'm putting this scene here because of the natural flow of events from the previous scene. However, depending on the time of day, this could be after the following scene where the police find Dome's body by the lighthouse (ep. 2).

(Ep. 2:)

The police find a body by the lighthouse (which we know is Dome) and a rock with blood on it.

Btw, that rock... That rock is the only rock we've seen the police find, right? And, somehow, it ends up with Tonkla's prints on it. So, we either have a mix of timelines here. Or, Tonkla is being framed (which is possible since Win, who is investigating Dome's case, is being followed and because I still believe that Title is Police Colonel Warit's son, who will do whatever it takes to not have his son charged with murder).

(Ep. 2:)

Tonkla arrives at the forensic department to identify his brother's body.

Btw, there's something still bothering me about Tonkla saying "Why did it have to be you?" when he's crying by his brother's side. There are so many possibilities I can spin out on based on those words alone. But, for now, I'm just noting that here in the event that something will be revealed about this later on.

(Ep. 2:)

The illegal gambling sites are hacked.

(Ep. 2:)

Tonkla is sitting on the floor, crying, hugging a photo of his brother. He calls Korn, but Korn dismisses him (because he has to deal with the hacker attack). Tonkla has a breakdown.

(Ep. 2:)

Korn gets naked and kneels before Fasai.

(Ep. 2:)

Tonkla waits for Korn to call. Instead, Win shows up at his house.

(Ep. 6:)

Tyme sends his grandmother off to stay with Aunt Ging.

(Ep. 6:)

Tyme and Chanin have a chat, Chanin says Tyme's parents were the ones who started the illegal gambling sites, and then Chanin gives Tyme money to keep his mouth shut.

(Ep. 6:)

Tyme goes back to the empty house. The clock in the living room shows 9:30-ish.

(Ep. 3:)

Korn is in (what I assume to be) Fasai's bathroom, looking at the missed calls from Tonkla on his phone.

(Ep. 6:)

Great shows up at the hospital (for some reason he's picked up more meds) and asks Tyme out for dinner.

(Ep. 6:)

Great and Tyme have dinner. Afterwards, Tyme tells Great that it's best if they don't see each other again.

This is where that part with the dog is included, which had me thinking Tyme and Great had already met each other in the past.

(Ep. 3 + 6:)

Nan collects evidence, sends it to Tyme, and gets shot as she runs away.

(Ep. 3:)

Win gets taken off Dome's case.

(Ep. 3:)

Tonkla is pissed that Korn hasn't called and starts smoking. Then Win arrives to tell Tonkla he's been taken off Dome's case. They fuck. Then Tonkla asks Win if he can come by and keep him company from time to time.

(Ep. 3:)

Win approaches Mod at Uni to ask about the comment she made on Dome's social media, but she says she doesn't know anything. Then, when Win gets back to his car, there's a note saying "If you don't stop prying, I'll kill you" (which I'm pretty sure is written by Title because it sounds like him).

Btw, this is a different day since Win is wearing different clothes here than in his previous scene with Tonkla. Also, technically, Title is still alive here (if that note is from him).

(Ep. 6:)

Tyme sees Korn coming out of a building, wiping blood off his hands. Then he follows Korn by car.

The reason I've split this scene from the scene where Nan is shot is because Tyme is wearing different clothes than he did during the dinner with Great.

It's not clearly visible, but Tyme is wearing a long-sleeved shirt here, which is the same shirt he wears in the following scene...

(Ep. 3 + 6:)

Tyme attacks Korn at the bar, asking about Nan, and then has a fight with Great.

The same thing goes here as in the scene above because Great is also wearing different clothes than he did during his dinner with Tyme:

So, it's most likely a different night than the night when Nan was shot.

Also, as we all know, the difference in the fight between Great and Tyme here in the real past compared to the fight in the other timeline is that Great manages to remove Tyme's mask here rather than the other way around.

(Ep. 4 + 6:)

Great enters the hospital, asks Den where Tyme is, and then waits for Tyme outside the OR to confront him about attacking Korn. Tyme gets pissed and tells Great to get out of his face.

(Ep. 4:)

Tonkla cremates his brother. Win is there and notices he's being followed, probably because he's still looking into Dome's murder. He also mentioned the one who did it is probably an heir to a powerful family. Win offers to move in with Tonkla to keep him company and to protect him.

This scene is really interesting to me because Win said the murderer was probably an heir to a powerful family. He has also previously said that he found Mod's comment on Dome's social media, saying that they knew who really killed Dome. From there, it wouldn't have been very difficult for Tonkla to piece things together and suspect both Great and Title who were both in Dome's class as well as heirs to powerful families.

(Ep. 4:)

It's the next day, and Win moves in with Tonkla. They're about to fuck but Korn's arrival interrupts their fun. Korn is an ass, Tonkla throws him out, then Tonkla and Win fuck anyway.

(Ep. 4:)

Win is lying naked in bed while Tonkla is sitting in darkness, holding the red cat collar, and thinking about the past.

(Ep. 6:)

Great decides to investigate things on his own and spies on his brother as Korn talks to Samarn. Great follows the van Samarn drives to the warehouse.

The reason I put this scene after the sequence of scenes from Win moving into Tonkla's house to the aftermath of them having sex is because:

It's gotten dark outside when Tonkla is thinking back to his past with Korn

And Korn wears the same clothes in this scene as he did when he came by Tonkla's place earlier that day.

(Ep. 4 + 6:)

Great finds Nan and sees Samarn shoot her. He runs away.

(Ep. 6:)

Great is leaving when Tyme shows up. Tyme gets his ass kicked by Samarn and his men and is about to be shot when Great steps in to stop it.

(Ep. 6:)

Great drives away from the warehouse with Tyme in the car. Tyme gets out and they have their fight where Tyme calls Great a coward, and Great tells him to go die like the other one.

(Ep. 6:)

Police Colonel Warit is watching the news. Somehow, the news about Chanin's company being involved in illegal gambling has leaked (which 4NEWS is reporting about at 07:20 am).

(Ep. 5:)

Korn is at his dad's office, Korn lashes out at Great's mom, and Chanin slaps Korn. Korn storms out of the office.

Again, the details are telling me that this is the real past because of Chanin's desk:

The lion is facing the windows and the family portrait is on Chanin's left-hand side.

(Ep. 5:)

Korn goes to see Fasai because he needs help. She tells him that her dad (Police Colonel Warit) can help him, but he needs to marry her if he wants her help.

(Ep. 6:)

They're shredding evidence at the headquarters of the illegal gambling sites. Samarn asks Korn how much longer Police Colonel Warit (who they call a general in the subs, btw, but it said Pol.Col. Warit on MDL a couple of weeks ago when I needed to double check on another character's name, so I'm going with Police Colonel) could delay things for them, and Korn tells him to get everything done by that night. Samarn also tells Korn that Great helped the one who most likely exposed them (Tyme).

Korn clearly got the help he needed from Fasai since Warit used his power over the police force to get them to do what he wanted (delay the police raid).

(Ep. 6:)

Chanin and Great's mom (do we know her name, btw?) are talking when Great shows up. Great is pissed at them and then leaves.

Btw, the family photo is on the left side of the desk and the lion is facing the windows, which, again, highlights that this is the real past.

(Ep. 5 + 6:)

Great's mom follows him out of the building and tells him to apologize to his dad, but he doesn't want to and leaves.

(Ep. 6:)

Great steps into the elevator at his condo. Tonkla shows up and shoots him.

(Ep. 5:)

Den sees Great being rolled into the hospital.

(Ep. 5:)

Tyme is with his grandmother who asks when it will be safe to go back home. She also asks him what exactly it is he's doing. Den calls him before he answers her. Den tells him that the guy who came to find him at the hospital that day (probably the day after Tyme attacked Korn at the bar) is being rolled into the OR. Then Tyme leaves.

To be fair, Tyme doesn't have the bruises in this scene that he got from the fight with Samarn and his men. So, to be fair, this isn't entirely from the real past.

However, Den said "the guy who came to find you at the hospital that day" not "the guy who dropped you off at the hospital" or "your boyfriend" (which Den joked about in a separate timeline).

Also, as we see in the last scene of this episode, when Tyme is running and the lights go on and off... Every other time the light shines on him, the bruises appear. Pair that with the spinning camera, and I feel like his OOBE timeline (and perhaps Great's OOBE timeline as well) is interweaving with the real past in this final sequence of the 5th episode.

Is there a possibility Tyme wasn't with his grandmother in the real past when he got that call? Yes (I think we might get to see it again in the 7th episode). And, if that's the case, then I will move this scene to the section with the timelines below. But, for now, I'll keep it here.

This is where the real past is currently at an end after 6 episodes.

The Present/Future

This is from the point when Great and Tyme are having their near-death experiences (NDEs) and everything that happens after that.

At this point, there's not much to put in this category, and we might not even get any more than this. But, so far...

(Ep. 1:)

Tyme is shot in what looks like the abandoned site where the illegal gambling sites had their headquarters.

Great had a cardiac arrest at the hospital.

I still believe that the patient at the ICU is Great even though the bandages are on the same places where Tyme was injured.

Different Timelines

Now, let's look at some of the other scenes that I haven't placed in the categories above, and that's because I believe they're from different timelines.

Also, before I dive in... I believe that we've already seen parts of a possible Tyme OOBE timeline as well as Great's (in episodes 1-5). I also believe that Great and Tyme's timelines are already interweaving, which means that there are certain scenes that I think are from Tyme's timeline that include the changes Great has made in his OOBE timeline. In other words, Manee, Dome, and Nan exist in both timelines.

With that said, let's get into it.

(Ep. 1, Great's timeline:)

Great wakes up at 11:00 before Title calls to remind him about the exam.

(Ep. 1, Great's timeline:)

Great gets into the elevator and starts to feel iffy.

We now know this is a reaction of him unconsciously remembering that he was shot there in the real past.

(Ep. 1, Great's timeline:)

Great hits Manee, drives away, has his first 4MP, and sends for help when he hits Manee again.

(Ep. 1, Great's timeline:)

Then we see Den at the hospital chit-chatting with Nurse Bee in the ER before Manee comes in.

(Ep. 1, Tyme's timeline:)

Den gives Tyme the information about Manee before Tyme checks on her.

I feel like the Tyme we get in this scene is the Tyme we got to see in the real past as well, the one with the harsher bedside manners.

(Ep. 1, Tyme's timeline:)

Tyme performs surgery on (who I presume to be) Manee. Then dr. Khomsan asks Tyme about his plans after his surgical training.

This leads to a scene where Den asks Tyme how Manee's surgery went and then tells Tyme about the research he's doing with the patients who had cardiac arrests. Their conversation is interrupted by Tyme's girlfriend calling.

The interesting thing about this sequence of events is that we saw a similar sequence in the 6th episode which, again, I believe is the real past. If this is from Great's perspective, how would he know anything about how Den gets physically close to Tyme when talking about his research (which he does in both versions)? And how would he know anything about Tyme's girlfriend? How would his unconscious mind conjure up that information if they never discussed it?

So, I will mark this as being part of Tyme's timeline for now, because that makes more sense to me at this point.

I won't go too deep into my theory of why Great and Tyme's OOBE timelines are interweaving other than to say that I think they have some connection from the past that pulled them together as they get their cardiac arrests at the same time (which seems possible if we're to believe the timing in the opening of ep. 1).

(Ep. 1, a possible separate Tonkla timeline:)

The part where Tonkla wants another round with Korn.

So, we've already seen them fuck (which I put in the section of the real past above), but this second part of that same sequence (where Tonkla wants another round) has some inconsistencies in the details compared to the first part (where they fuck). This second part is also where Tonkla sees the cat (which is presumably his cat that died when he was still at Uni).

Considering he can see that cat, and knowing what we know about him sensing Dome coming home from the hospital in the 4th episode, I'm assuming someone went way back in time and prevented that cat from being killed in the first place (Tyme's OOBE timeline, which probably goes further back than Great's?).

(Ep. 1, Great's timeline:)

Then we have the family dinner, which in the 1st episode is very different from the one in the real past (ep. 6) because Manee is alive in Great's OOBE timeline.

(Ep. 1, Great's timeline:)

Korn drops Great off at his condo after the family dinner.

The reason I'm adding this scene here is because we see Great have his 11:00 time anomaly moment when he gets out of Korn's car. He also tells Korn about his 4MP. Also, Korn telling Great that he was sorry he hadn't had much time to spend with Great lately is clearly a deep-seated desire that's surfacing from Great's unconscious. This boy is clearly lonely as hell.

(Ep. 1, Great's timeline:)

Great wakes up from his nightmare of hitting Manee. The clock is 11:00.

(Ep. 1, Great's timeline:)

Great visits Manee at the hospital. She says her son is about the same age as Great. He leaves, and as he does, after bumping into Tyme, he experiences his second 4MP.

The part where Manee talks about her son is still confusing to me because I can't seem to figure out how or why Great's mind would paint this picture as he's dying. We may get an answer to this in the coming two episodes. But, anyway, I'm keeping this scene in Great's timeline for now.

(Ep. 1, Great's timeline:)

After Great's 4MP, he sees Tyme and has visions of them having sex. And then they bump into each other again.

We now know the visions were a part of Great's memories of the real past resurfacing here in his OOBE.

(Ep. 2, Tyme's timeline:)

Tyme talks to Manee as she refuses to sleep. She tells him about her son and how he committed suicide after losing everything. I'm also including the flashback Tyme had of him and Great bumping into each other here.

The reason I believe this is Tyme's OOBE timeline we're seeing is because:

There's a thunderstorm as he's talking to Manee, which I believe is his present self's reality bleeding into his OOBE.

Manee's story about her son is Tyme's personal experiences "filling in the blanks", both his experience of being poor and every piece of info he collected while investigating the illegal gambling sites.

If I'm correct with my theory that Tyme has his own OOBE and developed his own procognitive ability similar to Great's (which is a theory I've had since watching the 2nd episode), and if Tyme goes further back in time to correct his mistakes (which could be where we potentially get to see Tyme and Great as kids), and met Great before he ever hit Manee and influenced him to be a better person, there's a chance Great called the ambulance right away after hitting Manee in Tyme's OOBE timeline. That could've been how she ended up at the hospital and Tyme treating her here.

And, regarding Tyme's flashback of him and Great bumping into each other... These are one of quite a few complex moments where I think their perspectives and OOBEs are interweaving. Because we know that:

Great had visions of him and Tyme having sex (ep. 1), which we saw was from Great's perspective

But after they bumped into each other, Tyme's perspective entered as he asked the nurse about Great and then saw his name on the bouquet of flowers he left on the nurse's counter.

And, also, let's not forget that the things on the nurse's desk before Great's 4MP looked like this:

While it looked like this after the 4MP:

The time on the clock is the same, but the mirror is in a different position, 75 has turned to 74 (I'm not sure what these numbers mean), 77F has turned to 76F (which I'm guessing are Fahrenheit degrees), and the pink, blue, and yellow papers are lying on top of the folder the second time around.

If Great was sent back in time to the exact moment he was in before he went to Manee's room (or in the same timeline), the things on the desk would've been in the same place, right? So, he might not have been sent back in only his own timeline, but also in Tyme's timeline.

(Ep. 2, Great's timeline:)

Great is at school, Googling his precognitive ability and talking to Tyme about the accident and an exam.

(Ep. 2, Great's timeline:)

Great is having memory flashes of his first two 4MPs and his visions of having sex with Tyme. Then he sees the messages in the class group chat, including the video Dome filmed of Title and View. The clock is 11:00 here.

(Ep. 2, Great's timeline:)

Great's conversation with Title in Title's car.

The reason I've put this scene here is because of Title's bruise. He has a bruise on his left cheekbone in this scene:

Which he doesn't have in the real past when he kills Dome (ep. 6):

I have no idea why Great's unconscious is conjuring up this scene, btw. Not yet anyway.

(Ep. 2, Great's timeline:)

Then we have the lighthouse scene where Title (who still has the bruise on his cheek) kills Dome, Great has his third 4MP (Title still has the bruise after the 4MP), and drives off with Dome in the trunk.

(Ep. 2, Tyme's timeline?:)

Tyme is boxing and then he has a short conversation with a cleaner as he leaves the gym.

I have no idea if this is the real past or Tyme's OOBE timeline. And does this particular scene even matter other than telling us that he knows how to fight and that he works a lot? I don't know.

(Ep. 2, Great's timeline:)

Great and Dome arrive at the ER. Tyme notices Great and then treats his wound. Great then asks Tyme if he's ever met a patient who can see the future.

This scene parallels the scene in the real past where Great picks up his meds at the hospital and Tyme overhears Great's full name.

(Ep. 2, Great's timeline:)

Great is at Uni, looking at the messages he's sent to Title. Then Mod arrives and thanks him for helping View.

(Ep. 2, Great's timeline:)

Title shows up when Great parks his car. They fight. Tyme shows up and helps Great.

Title has that bruise on his left cheek that I wrote about above, which is why I've added this scene here. What's interesting, though, is that he doesn't have one single mark on the right side of his head where Great hit him with the rock after his 4MP.

I don't know what to make of this. (And I'm too tired after painting for 9 hours today to figure out what it might mean, lol.)

(Ep. 2, Great's timeline:)

Great and Tyme have their chat on the skateboard ramp. They exchange Line IDs.

(Ep. 2, Great's timeline:)

Great's clock turns from 11:00 to 11:01.

(Ep. 2, Korn's timeline?:)

Korn has a meeting with Police Colonel Warit and Fasai.

I think this might be Korn's timeline? Because I'm not sure if Great knows anything about Korn's relationship to Fasai and her dad.

Either way, the differences in the decorations on that counter behind Warit in ep. 2:

Vs ep. 6:

Has me thinking that the first time we see Warit and Fasai, it's not in the real past.

(Ep. 2, Tyme's timeline:)

Nan meets Tyme under a bridge and gives him a USB.

I have a theory that whenever Tyme is backlit the way he is under that bridge:

And at the end of the 5th episode:

There's also a scene in the teaser that includes Tyme seeing light through a doorway (which is a scene we haven't seen yet). And my theory is that this serves the same function as the clocks did in counting down the time for Great.

Also, when it comes to the actual scene under the bridge, I'm assuming the USB includes information they got while hacking the illegal gambling sites. But, it could include something entirely different as well and fall into another place in the chronology of the story. But, I'm putting it here for now.

(Ep. 3, Great's timeline:)

Dome wakes up at the hospital and Tyme says Great asked him to check in on Dome.

(Ep. 3, Tyme's timeline:)

Den is upset with Tyme for intubating the lady in bed number 4.

The reason I think this is Tyme's timeline is because Den is, once again, reminding Tyme that his patients have names (which he did after Tyme performed surgery on Manee as well). I think this might be Tyme's guilty conscious over not caring that much about other people that surfaces in his OOBE as he lies dying.

(Ep. 3, Great's timeline:)

Great sees 11:01 and calls Korn to ask what time it is. It changes to 09:31 before it changes back to 11:01 when Great hangs up.

(Ep. 3, Great's timeline:)

Great is at school where the clock on the wall works fine when everyone is around, but turns to 11:01 when he's alone.

(Ep. 3, Great's timeline:)

Mod gives Great the Thai Tea that's from Tyme and Great gets a flash of a different message on the tea.

This scene is interesting because the handwriting on the two messages is different (and I believe they're written by different people):

Also, the way Great gets that flash of the second message (which says "Can you forgive me Great?") is similar to the way he got the visions of him and Tyme having sex in the 1st episode. And since we know those visions were his present self's memories of the real past mixing in with his 4MP timeline, I'm pretty sure that the second message is another one of Great's present self's memories. This means he got this message in the real past too or, alternatively, it will show up in his past when Tyme has his OOBE timeline (which I still think will start further back in time).

Now, who that message is from, though, and in what chronological order it comes into play is up for speculation. I'm putting it here for now, though.

(Ep. 3, GTs timelines:)

Great and Tyme are having a conversation at the bleachers, Great has his fourth 4MP, Great tells Tyme about his precognitive ability, Tyme says he'll ask a friend about it, and they decide to have dinner before Tyme leaves.

This was the scene that first sold me on the idea that we saw different timelines weave together in the same scene before we ever saw Tonkla noticing Dome at the end of the 4th episode.

I've written about it before. But, to summarize: The people on the bleachers change throughout the scene. And not just before vs after Great's 4MP.

They're pretty dramatic changes during the span of their short conversation. At the same time, the bags (except for one of them) and bottles are the only things that stay consistent throughout the whole scene.

Also, this scene is paralleled to the scene from the real past where Great shows up at the hospital and asks Tyme out for dinner.

(Ep. 3, Tyme's timeline:)

Tyme asks Den if he knows any patient with precognitive abilities. Den offers to set up a meeting between Great and Lukwa.

(Ep. 3, Great's timeline:)

The gallery scene with Great and Lukwa.

(Ep. 3, Great's timeline:)

The claw machine date with Great and Tyme.

(Ep. 3, GTs timelines:)

Great drives Tyme home after their date, and they almost kiss.

I think this is a mix of both of their timelines because we get to see Great's visions of the two of them having sex again (his timeline) weaving together with Tyme's grandmother, whom Great never met in the real past (not from what we saw, anyway), coming out of the house (Tyme's timeline).

(Ep. 3, Korn's timeline?:)

Samarn and his men put Nan in a van and Korn says he sent Samarn the location of where to take her.

I think this might be Korn's timeline because he's wearing the same clothes in this scene as he did in the scene in the 6th episode where he came out of the same building and wiped his bloody hands. I don't think Great would've known what clothes Korn wore that day.

(Ep. 3, Great's timeline:)

Great sees the clock on his wall turn from 11:01 to 11:02 and then he writes down the clues around his time anomalies and 4MPs.

(Ep. 3, Great's timeline:)

Korn is at the bar, waiting for Great, and Samarn calls him about Nan. Then Great arrives and Korn suggests that Great should go see a doctor Korn knows.

Considering what they're talking about (Great's precognitive ability), Great's timeline has to be present.

(Ep. 3, Great's timeline:)

Great and Tyme struggle outside the bar after Tyme attacked Korn. In this version, Tyme pulls the mask off to reveal himself to Great.

I'm conflicted about this scene and about whether to put it in Great or Tyme's timeline because it can be either (perhaps both?). The only thing that would change would be the context of the scene, whether Tyme wanted to reveal himself to Great to stop the fight (and potentially get Great to help him) or if it's just Great's unconscious painting the picture of Tyme trusting him enough to reveal himself in that moment. Decisions, decisions... I'm putting it in Great's timeline for now.

(Ep. 4, Great's timeline:)

Korn comes out of the bar. Korn is bleeding a lot so Great tells him they should go to the hospital.

(Ep. 4, Great's timeline:)

Great shows up at the hospital, looking for Tyme. Den tells him Tyme is in the OR. Great waits outside until Tyme comes out.

(Ep. 4, GTs timelines:)

They have their conversation outside the hospital where Tyme tells Great that his parents screw people over, and then he tells Great to get the fuck out of his face.

I think Tyme and Great's timelines interweave in this scene because Tyme says Great's parents caused his parents to die. I can't remember Great finding that out in the real past (at least not that they were killed), so there's no way he would've come up with that info on his own, right? Unless there's a part from the past-past that we haven't gotten yet that might explain this.

(Ep. 4, Great's timeline:)

Great has his fifth 4MP and decides to help Tyme find Nan.

(Ep. 4, whose timeline?:)

Lukwa talks with Den again and tells him about the red gallery where she met another person (Great). Den says he's found out about another patient like her and would like to set up a meeting.

This is where things get a bit wonky again and I have no idea whose timeline this is. Perhaps Den has his own timeline? Or, it might be Tyme's timeline since he was the one who told Den about Great (whom I assume is the other patient Den talks about here). Or Great's timeline? I have no idea. Yet. But, I'm putting the scene here for the moment.

(Ep. 4, Korn's timeline?:)

Korn stops Samarn from hitting Nan. He then tries to persuade her to talk, which she doesn't.

The reason I believe this is Korn's timeline rather than the real past is because he still has that "good but conflicted guy" way of being that we've seen in Great's timeline as well.

Also, this doesn't fit into the chronology of the real past if this scene is supposed to be after Tonkla and Win fuck in the 4th episode at the same time as Korn wears these very same clothes in the 6th episode where he gives instructions to Samarn who later kills Nan that same night. So, I feel like this scene is in another timeline rather than in the real past.

(Ep. 4, GKs timelines:)

The scene starts with Korn thinking about his fight with Tonkla and drinking alone. Then Great arrives, gets Korn drunk, and snoops through Korn's phone.

I think this scene has two timelines interweaving. The part from when Great arrives, Great's timeline takes over, because I'm pretty sure he didn't get Korn plastered in the real past considering the scene where he sees Korn talking to Samarn before he finds out where Nan is (ep. 6). Korn didn't look drunk at all when he met up with Samarn. Korn's phone also shows 11:02 when Great snoops through it, which is another indicator that what we're seeing is Great's OOBE timeline.

The moment before Great comes into the bar in this scene, however, is either Korn's separate timeline or the real past. It's possible that he drank away some of his sorrow/anger after his fight with Tonkla before Great came and without getting plastered.

Another reason I don't think this scene is completely just from Great's timeline is because of the lamp behind them. It's yellow in this episode:

While it was blue-greenish in the 3rd episode, which was from Great's timeline:

The inconsistency in lamp color could be unintentional, of course, but I don't think it is. Especially not since what we see from the bar in the 6th episode when Tyme hits on Great, it has yellow lights everywhere. So, I think this scene here (with the yellow light) is anchored more in Korn's timeline/the real past rather than in Great's timeline.

(Ep. 4, Tyme's timeline:)

Tyme gets out of surgery and gets Great's message that he's found Nan's location. Tyme tries to call Great but doesn't get an answer.

(Ep. 4, Great's timeline:)

Great finds Nan, sees Samarn shoot her, runs away, has his sixth 4MP, helps Nan, and Samarn calls Korn but gets no response.

Great and Nan get caught up by Samarn and his men, and then Tyme shows up to save the day.

They drop Nan off at the hospital.

(Ep. 4, GTs timelines:)

They stop by on a bridge as they're driving away from the city.

The reason I want to highlight this scene and the reason I think their timelines are interweaving here is because of the thunder, which I've previously written about. I think the thunder is Tyme's present self's surroundings bleeding through (the thunderstorm he's in the middle of when he was shot in the 1st episode). For that reason, this could also be only his timeline, but I chose to include Great's timeline because he tells Tyme about his 4MP when he saw Nan get shot.

(Ep. 4, Great's timeline:)

Great and Tyme arrive at a glamping site and they have sex.

(Ep. 4, whose timeline?:)

Dome leaves the hospital and calls his brother when he's in a taxi on his way home.

I have no idea whose timeline this is from. Perhaps Dome has gotten his own timeline now? But one thing's for sure, it's not the real past, so I'm keeping it here.

(Ep. 4, a possible separate Tonkla timeline:)

Tonkla hears Dome come home even though Dome is dead.

(Ep. 5, GTs timelines:)

The whole sequence at the glamping site.

Perhaps this is more from Tyme's timeline since he's sharing a lot from his own background as well as Nan's. I mean, there's no way Great knows about Tyme's mother's diary and can conjure up that story on his own:

And we know that the red journal is real because we've seen it in the real past (ep 6):

(Ep. 5, Great's timeline:)

Korn finds out from Samarn that Great was behind something.

Samarn never mentions if what Great did was help Tyme or Nan, which stands in contrast to the real past where Samarn tells Korn that Great helped the person Nan sent the info to. Also, this conversation takes place in a different room than the conversation in the 6th episode, so I'm thinking this is from Great's timeline.

(Ep. 5, Great's timeline:)

Samarn runs straight to Chanin and tells him about the situation.

We already know this isn't part of the real past. But I do want to highlight the changes in the details on Chanin's desk again:

The lion is facing the wall behind the desk rather than the windows, and the family portrait is standing on Chanin's right-hand side rather than the left. It's the opposite in the scenes from the real past.

(Ep. 5, Great's timeline:)

Great drops Tyme off at the hospital.

(Ep. 5, Tyme's timeline:)

Tyme runs into Den on his way into the hospital. At the same time, he's being followed.

Just noting here that this could be from Great's timeline as well.

(Ep. 5, Great's timeline:)

Korn wants to talk to Great to find out who the guy was from last night. Korn is lowkey threatening Great and Great says "You wouldn't hurt me, would you?", but Korn doesn't answer.

I feel like this is Great's unconscious wondering if Korn was the one who got him shot or not.

(Ep. 5, Great's timeline:)

He notices the clock on his wall has turned to 11:03.

(Ep. 5, Tyme's timeline:)

Chanin is at Tyme's grandmother's house and gives Tyme money to keep his mouth shut and stay away from Great and his company.

This could be Great's timeline as well since he did find out his dad had bribed Tyme. Also, this could be Great's unconscious mind making up another version of why he and Tyme parted ways, rather than Tyme not wanting to see him anymore. But, I'm keeping this in Tyme's timeline for now.

(Ep. 5, Great's timeline:)

Tyme tells Nan to delete all the evidence she'd collected. She gets pissed and leaks the information anyway.

(Ep. 5, Great's timeline:)

Then we see the news about the leak on 4NEWS at 11:03 am.

Manee sees the news.

We get into more complex territory here again. The news channel is clearly showing 11:03, which indicates Great's timeline. Manee is alive here, which, again, indicates Great's timeline. Manee acting out her revenge, though... I have no fucking clue... Yet.

(Ep. 5, Great's timeline:)

Great goes to find Tyme at the hospital, but he doesn't answer his phone. Then he drives to Tyme's home where he sees the sign saying "House for rent".

I'm still not sure how Great knows that Tyme lives there. The only time we've seen him there was in another timeline and not the real past. Yet, we've seen in the real past that Tyme actually lived there with his grandmother. So, this might be from someone else's timeline, or Great has known Tyme from before (but forgotten it) and this is his unconscious pushing these memories to the surface.

(Ep. 5, whose timeline?:)

Manee is at a temple, hiring a hitman.

(Ep. 5, Great's timeline:)

Great storms into his dad's office and asks about Tyme. A fight breaks out, and Great storms out of the office.

(Ep. 5, Great's timeline:)

Great's mom follows him and tells him to go back and apologize to his dad, which he refuses to do. As he's about to drive away, he notices the hitman Manee hired. He gets visions of his mom being shot, then he's sent back in time and takes a bullet for his mom. But she's shot anyway.

Then we get a montage of the red gallery where Lukwa is, Den talking about his research, flashes from Great's OOBE timeline, the visions of him and Tyme having sex in the real past, his panic attack in the elevator where we now know he was shot in the real past, and flashes of a bunch of circles (including clocks) and things that spin.

Then he passes out.

This is where Great's OOBE timeline ends (at least right now).

Cold Opens:

I haven't yet decided where to put these cold opens in the chronology of the story, but I do feel like it's easy for us to see the chronology if we just look at them alone.

(Ep. 5, cold open:)

Title is drugged while partying, and Tonkla arrives.

This has to happen after Title kills Dome and after the police find the first body by the lighthouse, but before the cold open of the 2nd episode where Tonkla beats someone and before the cold open of the 3rd episode where the police find the second body by the lighthouse (probably Title).

(Ep. 2, cold open:)

Tonkla is by the lighthouse and beats the shit out of someone (probably Title).

This comes after the cold open of the 5th episode where Title gets drugged, but is most likely from the same night, and before the cold open of the 3rd episode where the police find the second body by the lighthouse (probably Title).

(Ep. 3, cold open:)

The police find another body by the lighthouse. This one also has an open wound on the head. Probably targeted for revenge (I'm assuming it's Title).

If this is Title, then this scene comes after the cold opens of the 5th and 2nd episodes.

(Ep. 4, cold open:)

Win is told that Tonkla's prints are on the rock used to kill one of the bodies they found.

The only rock we've seen them find was the one in the 2nd episode when they found the first body (which is Dome). Could it be that Tonkla is being framed?

(Ep. 6, cold open:)

The police arrive at Tonkla's house to arrest him.

This happens after the cold open in the 4th episode where Win finds out the prints on the rock belongs to Tonkla.

(Ep. 1, cold open:)

Great is flatlining in the ICU and Tyme is shot at the abandoned site.

This took me days to write as I'm in a very busy painting period right now, so I'm sure there are some inconsistencies in the timelines and chronology of the scenes. But, I am planning on adding the scenes from the coming 2 episodes as they are released (and revising my current order if needed).

Until next time, I'm out...

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