#mythbusters vault

[mythbustersfacts]

The Pit (S8E??)

There’s an episode of MythBusters that no one talks about—mostly because it supposedly never aired. It was whispered about on message boards and forums, details pieced together from fleeting mentions by crew members who left the show soon after. The story begins with Adam, as most of these stories do, brimming with chaotic enthusiasm and an idea that pushed even his limits.

The myth? That there’s a real, honest-to-God bottomless pit. Not a metaphor, not a deep cave, but an infinite void—allegedly somewhere in rural Washington, a place locals only referred to as "The Devil’s Maw." The legend claimed it was bottomless, and, more disturbingly, that anyone who ventured too close could hear faint whispers from the pit, voices calling their name. It was said to be a direct pathway to Hell.

Adam: (grinning like a madman) "What’s the point of myths if we don’t tackle the big ones? Today, we’re investigating whether a bottomless pit exists! And if it does, how far can a human fall before… well, let’s hope we don’t have to find out!"

Jamie, stoic and unimpressed, stood beside him, arms crossed.

Jamie: (flatly) "This is a bad idea. Bottomless pits don’t exist, Adam."

Adam: (ignoring him) "We’re going to prove it one way or another! And if it is bottomless… I might just jump in!"

Jamie shot the camera a deadpan look.

Jamie: "He’s going to get himself killed."

The cameras followed as Adam and Jamie approached the pit. The opening was jagged, the earth around it cracked and blackened as if scorched. A faint, unnatural breeze seemed to rise from the depths, carrying with it a sound that was almost—but not quite—human.

Adam: (excitedly, leaning over the edge) "Listen to that! It’s like… voices!"

Jamie: (grabbing Adam’s shoulder and pulling him back) "Don’t get too close. The ground’s unstable."

Adam: (grinning, shaking him off) "Relax, Jamie. It’s just a hole."

The camera crew was visibly uneasy. One of them muttered that their equipment was glitching—batteries dying, lenses fogging up despite the clear air.

They started with the usual experiments: dropping objects into the pit and timing how long it took to hear them hit the bottom. A rock. A flare. Even a crash-test dummy rigged with a microphone. But there was no sound. No impact. The dummy’s audio feed cut off seconds after it disappeared into the darkness.

Adam: (frustrated) "Nothing! It’s like they’re just… gone."

Jamie: (grimly) "Maybe we should leave it at that."

But Adam wasn’t satisfied. He began pacing, muttering about how they couldn’t just end the episode without definitive proof. Then, he made the announcement that would doom the entire shoot.

Adam: (grinning wildly) "There’s only one way to really test it. I’m going in."

The crew erupted in protests. Jamie stepped in front of Adam, arms crossed.

Jamie: "Don’t be stupid. You don’t know what’s down there."

Adam: (smirking) "That’s the point, isn’t it? Science is about risk, Jamie! Plus, I’ve got a harness. What’s the worst that could happen?"

Jamie: (glaring, voice low) "You don’t come back."

Against everyone’s better judgment, Adam strapped himself into a harness connected to a winch. The crew reluctantly manned the controls, their faces pale. As Adam was lowered into the pit, he joked and shouted back up to them, his voice echoing eerily.

Adam: "Still no bottom! But it’s getting colder… and darker. This is amazing!"

Then his tone changed.

Adam: (nervously) "Wait… I think I hear something. Like… whispers?"

The audio feed crackled, his words cutting in and out.

Adam: "…saying my name… Jamie, do you hear…?"

Suddenly, the winch jolted. The crew shouted as the cable began to spool uncontrollably, as if something in the pit was pulling Adam down.

Jamie: (yelling) "Shut it off! Pull him up!"

The winch screeched, sparks flying, but the cable kept unraveling. Adam’s panicked voice came through the radio one last time.

Adam: (screaming) "It’s not a pit! It’s—"

And then, silence. The cable snapped, whipping back and narrowly missing Jamie’s face. The crew stared in horror at the frayed end, then down into the pit, which seemed to swallow all light.

Jamie refused to speak publicly about what happened, but in a rare interview years later, he was asked if he believed the pit was truly bottomless.

He paused for a long time before answering.

Jamie: (quietly) "I don’t know what it was. But Adam didn’t fall to the bottom. He was… taken."

[tobiasdrake]

This might be the weirdest investigation yet, but I'm here for it. Not like I have room to talk anyway.

Oh hey, maybe Vivia should project with me. That way, I can go investigate the murder while he can remain here on lookout. If he sees Yakou's soul try to exit his body, Vivia can grab him and cram him back in there.

Yuma should be able to levitate, pass through solid objects, etc. This does mean we won't be able to touch anything, though. However, given recent events....

We have already confirmed that Yuma would rather bend over and blink at something than pick it up and take a closer peek. So this should offer no complications for his investigative process. He was already very hands-off as it is.

I guess this is the lore explanation for not giving us complete freedom despite using the complete freedom superpower.

Given everything we've seen from him? Yeah. I can believe that Yuma's base assumptions about the nature of reality would make this difficult. He's aggressively neurotypical, after all.

The blackout most certainly has something to do with our murders. I'm not sure what, but it's doubtful that it just happened by coincidence.

We know that the inner lab's deathtraps are on a separate power grid that never glitched, so it's not as simple as "Fink caused a blackout to get to Huesca."

Well. I. Will never feel safe again. Gonna go out on a limb and say those are here to restrict our otherwise free run of the lab.

If you touch the lost souls, you become one of them. Which is a super macabre way of saying they're walls meant to funnel the investigation along on its rails, as well as an obstacle course for gameplay.

What would be the point? Yomi's already made up his mind as to what happened. There's nothing more for him to learn here.

OMIGOD Do I get to interrogate a ghost? Tell me I get to interrogate a ghost. I want that so badly.

But he was unaware of their presence until late into our conversation. This means they must have been hidden from him until right that moment. Or they had just entered the room when he reacted.

Moving into the airlock.

What this means for our case is that the gas chamber may have been activated while we were talking to Huesca. Nobody would know. Since decontamination devices are affixed to both the airlock and the panel chamber, the gas chamber's activation is imperceptible from the outside.

Yuma. What did Vivia say to you? You can levitate and pass through objects. You absolutely can pass through the vents.

Imagine if the inner lab was penetrated as easily as crawling through the decontamination vents from airlock to panel room.

It can't be that easy, can it? There's no way.

Also, and I don't expect this to be a factor because writers never take this into account, but you can't pass stealthily through a ventilation shaft. Even setting aside that vents aren't designed in a way that allows a human body to conveniently pass through unimpeded, the flimsy metal that they're made with makes really loud noises at the slightest impact.

To quote Jamie Mythbusters, it sounds like Thor, God of Thunder is trying to enter your building.

But that's like volcanic convection. Never comes up in media because the alternative is more fun.

In any case, this isn't as simple as "Killer crawled through the duct to escape". But assuming the panel room has a similar duct, it may have been used to hide during our initial investigation. After the killer got the drop on our Ama-Pal and then vanished behind the vault door, it may be possible that he slipped into one of these vents and stayed there until we were all busy with our lab stand-off.

It can also be absorbed through the skin. In order to pass safely through this chamber, you would need a full suit with an enclosed oxygen system. A diving suit with full helmet or a space suit or the like.

It does, however, take thirty minutes to kill you. Which means it's possible that Fink waded through it and went right on into the panel room. Then he killed Huesca and Yakou, then wandered off somewhere to succumb on his own terms.

No idea why he'd do that but it's on the table as a possibility. The answer to "How did Fink beat the gas chamber?" could be as simple as "He did not. Next question."

We were able to brute-force the combination, but only by temporal cheating. Even if Fink waded through the gas chamber, it would be difficult to crack this code via the same mechanism we used.

We have firmly refuted the possibility that Fink used an Ama-Pal to do it. Only one Ama-Pal was functional at the time, and it's the one we went and retrieved while Fink was in the lab killing Huesca. Furthermore, it can't be used to brute-force the panels (time cheating excepted) because the electroshock penalty fries Ama-Pal's circuits and kills it dead. Tested and proven.

Okay, so only the airlock decontamination vents are easily accessible. There goes the theory that Fink was hiding in this room.

It would have been difficult for him to sprint all the way to the airlock in the short time we were down. Especially before we disarmed the gas chamber. Unless he brute-forced the gas chamber, in which case it wouldn't matter.

I still feel confident that he was hiding behind that door after he conked out Ama-Pal. But whether he was or wasn't, where could he have gone from there?

It's super inconvenient, though. The door opens on this side, so you have to waddle around this big, heavy metal door. With our slow-moving clunker of a robot, no less. After he notices the door opening, Fink had plenty of where the opening door was concealing his presence, in which to skedaddle to the other side of the room and prepare his ambush.

[theultimatefan]

Wilson, McGowan, Mulgrew, Baccarin Added to FAN EXPO Philadelphia Celebrity Lineup, May 3-5

The deep pool of fandoms at FAN EXPO Philadelphia, set for May 3-5 at the Pennsylvania Convention Center, became even stronger with today’s announcement that Rainn Wilson (“The Office,” “Lessons in Chemistry”), Rose McGowan (“Charmed,” Scream), Kate Mulgrew (“Star Trek: Voyager,” “Orange is the New Black”) and Morena Baccarin (Deadpool, “Gotham”) have joined the event’s stellar celebrity guest lineup.

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[freifraufischer]

Gymnastics History Mythbusting: East Bloc Gymnasts Don't Wear Grips... Except When They Do

On my trip through watching 1980s gymnastics on youtube in as much a chronological order as I could I spent a good day watching the 1981 European Championships.

Why you might ask if you know anything about 1980s competitions on youtube would I do that. Most video from that era is heavily edited down, 2 hour AAs in 30 minutes or an hour if you are lucky. Event finals are often edited down to just the winners. Not to mention that a lot of it is of terrible quality. But the 1981 European Championships are unique on youtube and actually kind of amazing.

Almost eight hours of uncut high quality film footage with no commentaries. You can see fine details and hear the general sound of the meet between floor music (to include the fact that every vault landing sounds like it's a crack of a falling tree it's a wonder any gymnast survived the 1980s).

But in particular I found myself watching the uneven bars event finals with with particular attention because I was watching a bars final with 2 Soviets, 2 Bulgarians, 2 Hungarians, a Romanian and an East German and the camera lingers on their hands as they are preparing the bars and chalking up. And they've all (or nearly all I didn't track every gymnast) got grips on.

Including the Romanian.

That ran counter to the received wisdom I had as a gym fan and from watching 1990s gymnastics that east bloc gymnasts didn't wear grips. I had remembered a comment given to NBC in the mid 2000s by a Ukrainian coach that they couldn't afford to train their younger gymnasts with grips and when given the choice the senior gymnasts often chose to continue not to use grips because they were simply not used to them.

So I started to track when and where I saw gymnasts from those countries I thought of as "no grips" countries wearing grips. I suspected that it was a financial consequence from the collapse of the communist system that carried through to eastern Europe as those countries' gymnastics programs were lacking in funds. My observations of the 1980s suggest this to be the case.

Romanian gymnasts are rarely seen with grips on and that film from 1981 is essentially the last time I saw it.

There were occasional 1980s Chinese bars workers wearing grips.

Soviet gymnasts were all wearing grips until 1987-88 and then it was the youngest gymnasts who weren't wearing them. Shushunova was a grip using bars worker.

To the extent I saw North Korean bars workers in the 1980s they wore grips, but I saw them so rarely I don't think I could say they did so categorically.

The East Germans used grips right through the end of the East German state. Which brings me to my second grips history mythbusting. I have seen it be said that round off bars mounts aren't possible to do with grips on and I took that as true. Until I watched Michelle Goodwin of the United States do a round off arabian bars mount with grips on at the 1982 World Cup and Gabriela Fahnrich do a round off back straddle over the low bar at the 1985 European Championships. I mentioned this discovery to a former MAG friend of mine who seemed surprised I'd been told that it wasn't possible because just as a goof he'd played around with round off arabians to the high bar and he described the sensation of doing so with grips on as not particularly strange or difficult. As far as I can see the two other East Germans who used a round off back tuck over the low bar mount, Martina Jentsch for whom it was named and Dorte Thummler both did so with grips on.

TLDR: In the very later stages of the collapse of communism many gymnasts were trained as juniors to work bars without grips and that persisted in those countries likely because of financial considerations. Grips were used by many Eastern Bloc gymnasts throughout the 1980s with only the very occasional examples of grips being worn by Romanian or Chinese gymnasts.

If you are curious about the 1981 European Championships footage: AA Sub 1, AA Sub 2, EF VT, EF UB, EF BB, EF FX

[ebficnotes]

Lorebook notes for Letter to Casolinwe

Hints about Mannimarco’s character from a fellow student.

Letter to Casolinwe by Rullinalion

Casolinwe, I had another unpleasant run-in with your friend, Mannimarco, yesterday. I don’t know if I mentioned this before, but the Relicmaster put me in charge of overseeing vault deliveries. It is simple work—just a matter of cataloging potentially explosive reagents, unstable relics, that sort of thing.

So Mannimarco does have friends on the isle. He is not a loner.

The vault is a big enough deal that it has its own mailing address. And it’s own OSHA inspector.

Another unpleasant run in. Mannimarco isn’t universally liked. He can and does rub some people the wrong way.

Most of the acolytes have brought a parcel or two. Mannimarco, however, has brought dozens of unmarked crates, barrels of mysterious alchemical solvents, and so on. Given his seniority, I gave him a bit of latitude. But with the sheer volume of materials—I had to say something, you know?

Acolytes? General psijic acolytes or Mannimarco’s specifically? Given how many enemies are in that place, and how big it is, I wonder how many students had access to the place. And how many were necros? And if they were all Manni’s lackies and practicing necros, then how did Manni keep all the necro shit away from Vanus until he was ready to show it off? I sincerely cannot see Vanus as the non-snooping type, especially when it comes to Mannimarco.

Mannimarco has seniority. He’s also referred to here as an acolyte himself. So he is a student. Its unclear what that means though. Do all the Psijic monks including the titled Sages consider themselves students,  or is there an actual formal teaching structure those two are enrolled in? Got to look up traditional religious schooling for context.

He doesn’t travel light. Wonder where he’s getting the cash for all that shit. Maybe his spending spree is part of this guy’s issue?

Sheer volume of materials. Whatever Manni’s doing, that’s not fair. He’s a polymath. As someone who also has a million stuff-intensive interests and who’s whole house looks like the Mythbuster’s garage i wish - and who is not a necro,  I take offense ;)

I very politely asked him what was in his most recent delivery. He did not even look at me. He just said, “Nothing you’d be interested in.” I persisted—gently, mind you! When I asked him a second time, he fixed those icy eyes on me and whispered something in the forgotten tongue of the Ublivey mystics. At the time, I thought he said “If you ask again, you will know regret.” But after some uncomfortable reflection, I think he might have said, “If you ask again, you will know murder.” It is an easy mistake to make—the words are very similar. But I tell you, Cas, I do not think it was a mistake. He knows I am a linguist. I think he knew exactly what he was saying. Even now, my skin crawls at the thought. There is something very wrong with that mer, I know it. Please, be careful.

Mannimarco is good with languages. Of course he is. Forgotten tongue of the Ublivey mystics. Maybe that’s where he spent the last 900 years?

Icy eyes. So he creeps at least a few people out.

He knows I am a linguist? That doesn’t mean he didn’t use the wrong word, just that he knew this guy would know the language in general. Still a threat though.

Something wrong with that mer, please be careful. Why doesn’t THIS guy tell Iachesis of of his concerns? He doesn’t want to hear it? Or its too hear-say? Iachesis is… I don’t know about him. He’s presumably a good guy, but he has a penchant for plugging his ears and making very dumb deals. I still don’t get what he was thinking in the Summerset quest.

Did not even look at me. Mannimarco dismisses this guy when he attempts to confront him. He is a nobody to Manni. Just some dude who’s currently in his way. THIS is how Mannimarco treats people he doesn’t care about. Meanwhile Vanus blows him off three different times - that we see - yet Manni keeps inviting him back to the party. And does NOT snap his neck like a twig even though this here note is heavily implying that he has zero issue with doing so when it suites him. He threatens this guy just for asking whats in a few crates. Something I imagine he could easily BS his way through if he wanted. He’s not even trying here. Yet Vanus presumably fucks up some ritual that was important enough to need the Dreaming Cave for, and he just lets him go with a little squeeze. Btw, how is he talking through all that? You can’t talk while being strangled. Telepathy I guess. Vanus doesn’t even sound scared either. He sounds pissed. A real firecracker isn’t he?

I persisted. So he just had to push right? I thought this might be out of character for him since it’s not very smart to threaten inspectors who report to the guy who keeps your lights on. This note though reads like a “Evil Minds” rundown of a "textbook" psychopath (or “sociopath”, which btw isn’t even a real word, depending on which researcher you ask). Him giving an ill-advised death threat to an authority, however minor, fits with psychopathic impulsivity, as well as his calm and rational-to-him actions in the vault scenes.

Except MQ Mannimarco isn’t a psychopath? My own reading on the subject says they usually have a more flat affect when they’re not trying to act normal. And their emotional response in general is dampened. They do feel stuff, it’s just not that super-intense emotional rollercoaster shit that most of us do. Meanwhile MQ Manni is gloating at us like a kid playing tag, you’re it! Meh, maybe soulburst-induced brain damage made him normal-ish? Or psychotic? That would explain why he is all ‘youll regret this waaa!’ when we let him out of Coldharbour. Whatever dude, I thought you didn’t believe in good and evil.

Old Ways Guide You, Rullinalion

PS—His crates made a hollow, rattling sound as he carried them away. If I had to guess, I would say that they contained either dried wood or bones. I think you can guess which is more likely.

His Elseweir note suggests he does prefer bones to flesh. Though obviously he experiments with everything. An innovator yeah? Do bones actually rattle or sound hollow? Idk.

Relicmaster put him in charge. So the vault is the Relicmaster’s domain. That guy is is a space case, if his handling of the vault of Moawita is anything to go by. I can see Manni getting away with all kinds of shit under his watch.

The third vault scene shows two former sapients as thralls and 4th scene Vanni says “worse than a murderer”. Coupled with this blunt-force note, the obvious takeaway is this dude is one of the thralls. Except who’s the other thrall then? This “Casolinwe”? I suppose she(?) could be one of Manni’s expendable friends, but how did he get the note then? A mystery third non-expendable friend? Vanny himself? Now THAT would be messed up! Gives a whole new take to his “you’ll pay…eventually,” line. Why is it so easy to make Vanus dark?  I don’t want to say he’s asking for it, but…

On the other hand, we find this note on a table just sitting there for anyone to find, and presumably the vault is still open for business during this time? So if Manni sees this note, why does he just leave it? But if he doesn’t see the note, why would he kill this/those guys? I’m probably overthinking this lol.

Vanus says “classmates”. I guess it’s not uncommon to have student workers doing stuff like that, but given it’s supposed to be hazmat logging, it’s a bit like the fox guarding the hen house. But then again, that’s like, the entire Psijic questline.

And again we have someone other than little Vanny suspecting Mannimarco of necro-shennagains, and yet it takes 2 more vault scenes and possibly setting the Dreaming Cave on fire before Iachesis does anything about it. What kind of place is he running anyway? Guess that’s what Vanus asked himself before he left the island too. But only after Manni gets banished. Because Iachesis’s two-faced/ineffective policies wern’t a good enough reason to haul ass and leave them to rot together? Uh huh.

[lcdrarry]

LCDrarry Round-Up Post | Week 4

On Sundays during our posting period, we won't post a new work, instead you have time to catch up on the works that posted during the week and hopefully leave lovely comments for our creators.

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Slick

Prompt: #59 | "Grease" - 1978 - Randal Kleiser Author: Anonymous Word Count: 10.4k Rating: Teen and up Warnings: Slight Virginity Shaming

Summary: Slick is the word. Harry's bike is a bird. And Poor Draco's a sex noob.

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The Loudest Bang

Prompt: #51 | "MythBusters" - 2003 to 2015 - Series Author: Anonymous Word Count: 1.2k Rating: Teen and up Warnings: none

Summary: “You’re not going to use a nuclear weapon on Gringotts’ strongest vault, Potter.”

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A Truth Universally Acknowledged

Prompt: #12 | "Pride & Prejudice" - 2005 - Joe Wright Author: Anonymous Word Count: 23.9k Rating: Teen and up Warnings: none

Summary: It has been four years since the war. Mr. Henry Bennet is perfectly pleased with his domestic life at Longbourn, managing the affairs of his demanding mother and many sisters. But a new Muggle gentleman moves into Netherfield Park, and he brings with him a surprising figure from Mr. Henry's past ...

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Man Eater

Prompt: #25 | "Little Shop of Horrors" - Alan Menken Author: Anonymous Word Count: 2.4k Rating: Mature Warnings: Implied/Referenced Domestic Violence (not between H & D), Dark Draco, Implied Sexual Acts

Summary: “You can’t lie to me.” The plant released Draco and he stumbled, overbalanced by his own gangly limbs. “I've watched you. I've heard all your idle thoughts. All your whispered secrets. I know what Harry means to you.”

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I Wanna Get Better

Prompt: #139 | "One Day at a Time" - 2017 - Series Author: Anonymous Word Count: 5.0k Rating: Mature Warnings: Mental Health Issues, Mental Breakdown, Suicidal Thoughts, Depression

Summary: One night Draco comes knocking on Neville's door, with a tape recorder and a desperate need for a hug.

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[wouldyouliketoseemymask]

Get to Know the Blogger: Any hobbies not related to comics?

Yes! I am a huge fan of horror (books, TV shows, films, creepypastas, etc.) and have been interested in paranormal subjects ever since I was a kid, like cryptids and haunted history and cursed places. Most of the time it is easily debunked but it’s still fun to read about. 

I’m also extremely intrigued by banned/destroyed media and have spent literal hours on the Lost Media Wiki. I have an insatiable curiosity when it comes to things like that and it’s incredible how much media has been lost to time or kept out of public view for various reasons--for example, did you know that: 

there is an uncut version of the film Event Horizon that will never see the light of day because it was considered too disturbing and graphic 

there is audio footage from the documentary Grizzly Man that is currently locked away in a vault and has been heard by only a few people

there are two segments of the TV show Mythbusters that will never be aired because of inevitable public outcry 

entire television shows and films have been either lost to time or irreparably destroyed, either because they were taped over or damaged 

there are books and diaries written by infamous killers that will never be released to the public (for obvious reasons) 

there is an IMMENSE amount (decades worth) of lost animation

THIS IS HOW I SPEND MY TIME

[northernmisery-blog]

Ho-Ho-Ho Now I Have A Machine Gun

There are many people who would dispute the validity of Die Hard as a Christmas movie.

Let’s have a look at the reasons people deny the obvious, Flat Earth Die Hard Heathens, I think we should call them.

First, here are many people’s reasons why it can’t possibly be a Christmas film debunked in a festive Mythbusters-esque style with actual facts and logic.

“The film was released in Summer”

United States                   July 1988

United Kingdom               February 1989

“Neither of these times are Christmas, so it can’t be a Christmas movie”.

The original Miracle on 34th Street was released on May 2nd, 1947.

If Die Hard’s release date excludes it being a Christmas movie, what in the red nose of Rudolph is Miracle on 34th Street? I suppose that’s a feel good summer camp movie, is it?

“Die Hard is an ACTION movie”

Whilst the plot of the film is thieves masquerading as terrorists, the entire robbery plot rests on the fact that it needs to be a holiday period, specifically Christmas Eve.

·         The office staff will be there at night because they are there for a Christmas party. The thieves need the hostages, which are integral to Gruber’s escape plan.

·         The office staff will all be in one location because they are there for a Christmas party. Security detail would be spread out more during the day, staff would all be on different floors. Only an event could get them in one location and that event is a Christmas party. Not a thanksgiving hootenanny. Not an Easter bonnet parade. Not a summer barbecue. It’s a Christmas party.

·         Takagi will definitely be there because it’s a Christmas party.

·         Nobody else will be around the area of Nakatomi Plaza because it’s Christmas Eve.

·         Gruber knows the FBI will cut the power to open the last lock of the vault. If the robbery and hostage scenario took place during the day or even a non-holiday, the FBI would not be as willing to cut off the power to a financial area, affecting all of the other businesses.

The plot isn’t about Christmas

Neither is Home Alone. It’s about a kid being left at home fending off robbers. Yet Kevin is left alone at Christmas and his family have to get back to him. Die Hard is about John McClane fending off robbers, on his own at Christmas, having gone to LA to see his family.

Further Evidence .

Now, let’s look at further reasons why Die Hard is absolutely and definitely a Christmas film;

Reasons for McClane's Presence

He’s going to see his wife, with a view to spending Christmas with her and his estranged children John Jr and Lucy. He has no other reason to be in Los Angeles other than it being Christmas.

The Soundtrack

There are eleven different songs / musical numbers listed on the official soundtrack to Die Hard.

Two of them are pieces of classical music.  One is a piece of music from Aliens. That leaves eight pieces of music and or songs, of which the following are considered Christmas songs; Winter Wonderland, Christmas in Hollis, Let it Snow! Let it Snow! Let it Snow!, Jingle Bells, Half of them. Half of the songs are Christmas songs. I don’t remember random Christmas songs in Terminator, Commando or Rambo. That’s because they are action films.

The film is littered with Christmassy paraphernalia

The Christmas tree at the party, the Christmas decorations in the office, the Santa hat placed on the dead robber who has the words “Ho-Ho-Ho” written on him, the Christmas decorations in the McClane home when Dick Thornburg goes there to name a few. Even McClane’s wife is called Holly for Kringles sake.

The script. The chuffing script.

OK, here are some parts of the official script, all referring to it being Christmas. If Christmas isn’t integral to the plot of the film (it is) and isn’t intended to be part of the plot (it is) then why would a script writer include these lines in a script;

Ellis; I was thinking more of roaring fireplaces...mulled wine and a nice brie...

Holly; Ginny, it's 6:40, you're making me feel like Ebenezer Scrooge.

Holly; Well, we'll see what Santa and Mommy can do.

McClane; How 'bout some Christmas music?

Argyle; That is Christmas music.

McClane; You throw quite a party.  I didn't know they had Christmas in Japan.

Hans; It’s Christmas, Theo, it's the time of miracles.  So be of good cheer and call me when you hit the last lock.

Argyle; If this is their idea of Christmas; I gotta be there for New Year's.

Furthermore, read the script. There’s countless references to it being Christmas and there’s tonnes of notes and directions about things needing to be Christmassy. If you want to show me a non Christmas film that has less Christmas in it than Die Hard, I’ll buy you a mince pie.

Yippee-Ki-Yay Mother Christmas - oh and don’t even get me started on Lethal Weapon.

Here, buy a festive Christmas sweater. You won’t be wearing this bastard in the summer, will you?

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Deltar family mottoes:

1. Family, freedom and the Deltar Vault are the most important things we have. 2. The more mutations the better 3. Offer shelter and safety to lowbloods and mutants. 4. Don't give Taipan-dad peanuts. 5. Keep the family secrets and wear your mark with pride. 6. The hemospectrum is irrelevant to day to day things but only take those you trust through the forest 7. Release any of the aquatic fireflies you catch 8. Lock up the laboratory whenever you leave it unattended and remember the lab safety rules 9. Don't let highbloods through the forest, set Taipan-dad or Roseli on them if needed 10. For the love of god don't take food into the library 11. Mythbusters and thermite are banned from the hive forever no exceptions 12. Also dynamite and/or any kind of explosive 13. Do your chores and help out.

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JFK Revisited

The episode begins with Adam gesturing animatedly in front of the camera while holding a replica Carcano rifle.

Adam: “Alright, MythBusters fans, today we’re diving into one of the most controversial myths in history: the magic bullet theory! Did a single gunman really gank JFK? Or was there a second shooter on the grassy knoll? To find out, we’ve going to Dealey Plaza in Dallas—to test it for ourselves!”

Jamie stands stoically in the background, his arms crossed, his hat shading his expression.

Jamie: “This isn’t about conspiracies. It’s about physics. That’s all.”

The camera pans up to show Jamie climbing the stairs to the Texas School Book Depository. He takes position at the window, rifle ready. Adam, meanwhile, stands below on the sidewalk, looking at passing traffic with a mischievous grin.

Adam yells up to the window, “Alright, Jamie, here comes our first victim. Try this blue Honda!”

Jamie adjusts the scope and takes aim. A shot rings out, striking the car’s hood with a loud clang. The Honda swerves slightly and accelerates away.

Adam: “That was beautiful. Let’s go again!”

A silver minivan appears, and Adam waves enthusiastically.

Adam: “Ooh, ooh, Jamie! The van! Let’s see if you can hit that side panel!”

Jamie fires again, this time denting the side of the van. The driver screams and honks angrily but doesn’t stop. Adam laughs and claps his hands like a delighted child.

Adam: “Direct hit! You’re getting the hang of this!”

The camera cuts to Jamie, who reloads with a quiet intensity. The next car, a sleek red sedan, approaches. Adam is practically vibrating with excitement.

Adam: “Jamie! This one! Let’s go for the windshield!”

Jamie adjusts his aim and fires. The bullet smashes through the windshield, and the sedan veers off the road, crashing into a lamppost. The driver steps out, clearly shaken but unharmed. Adam grins nervously and waves.

Adam: “Uh, sorry! MythBusters! Science in progress!”

Jamie is silent, his focus unbroken. Suddenly, a white pickup truck enters the frame. Adam points enthusiastically.

Adam: “This one! This one! Let’s see if you can graze the side mirror!”

Jamie exhales slowly, takes aim, and pulls the trigger. But this time, something goes horribly wrong. The bullet doesn’t strike the truck—it hits a child crossing the street. The boy crumples instantly, blood pooling beneath him. There’s a beat of stunned silence. Then chaos erupts.

Adam: “Oh my god. Oh my god. Jamie, what the hell did you do?!”

Jamie lowers the rifle and stares down at the scene, his face unreadable.

Jamie: “He walked into the line of fire. That’s not on me.”

Adam: “Not on you?! Jamie, someone’s dead! What are we supposed to—what are we—”

The sound of approaching sirens cuts through Adam’s panic. Jamie steps away from the window, calmly unslinging the rifle.

Jamie: “We leave. Now.”

Adam: “Leave?! Jamie, we just killed a guy!”

Jamie: “Correction. I killed a guy. And you’re coming with me.”

The camera shakes as the crew scrambles to pack up their equipment. Adam looks directly at the lens, wide-eyed and trembling.

Adam: “Cut the feed. Cut the—”

The screen cuts to black. The episode never aired, the footage was recovered from an SD card found by a cleaner at M5 Industries and leaked online.

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Inspired by the legend of the Trojan Horse, the Build Team set out to determine whether a group of people could successfully infiltrate a modern high-security facility by hiding inside a giant wooden structure. For the sake of "scientific rigor," they chose an active U.S. military base as their target, constructing a massive wooden horse and attempting to have it delivered as a "basewarming gift."

Things immediately went wrong. A routine security scan flagged the structure as suspicious. The horse was quickly surrounded by armed guards, who ordered its occupants to exit immediately. However, Grant, in a panic, whispered "Stick to the myth!" and the team remained silent, hoping to stay undetected.

Moments later, a flashbang was deployed, followed by several warning shots, as the wooden horse was tactically breached. Blinded and disoriented, Tory stumbled out, while Kari collapsed from sensory overload. Grant, still inside, attempted to surrender but was repeatedly tased when he emerged.

Authorities detained the team under suspicion of terrorism before Discovery Channel executives frantically intervened to negotiate their release. The footage was confiscated, and the U.S. government formally classified the incident.

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Hindenburg Revisited

Adam and Jamie set out to determine whether the conditions of the infamous Hindenburg disaster could happen today. The test focused on modern blimps, specifically the Goodyear Blimp, and whether a high-powered rifle could ignite its helium or other components in a catastrophic explosion.

The episode begins with Adam pacing in the workshop, his enthusiasm borderline unhinged. “It’s not every day you get to recreate one of the biggest disasters in history!” he exclaims. Jamie, looking deeply skeptical, mutters, “Adam, they use Helium nowadays not hydrogen. Helium doesn’t burn.” Adam counters, “But what if there’s something else? Let’s find out!”

The team sets up their experiment in a parking lot outside a major sporting event where the Goodyear Blimp is circling. Armed with a high-powered rifle, they prepare to test the myth under "realistic conditions."

Adam fires the first shot, missing entirely. The second shot ricochets off the blimp’s hull, and Jamie starts to pack up, insisting the experiment is over. But Adam, frustrated, takes another shot—and this time, the bullet strikes a critical point.

What happens next is chaos. The blimp doesn’t just leak or deflate—it ignites in a sudden and massive explosion, lighting up the sky in a horrifying spectacle. The camera crew captures the fireball as debris rains down on the panicked crowd below. Adam screams, “Holy crap, it worked!” while Jamie stares in stunned silence, muttering, “We’re done. This is it.”

As emergency services swarm the scene, the MythBusters crew flees in their van, the camera still rolling. The final, haunting shot shows Adam in the passenger seat, grinning wildly and saying, “Well, myth confirmed!” Jamie, gripping the steering wheel tightly, growls, “This was a mistake. A big one.”

The episode never aired, with Discovery immediately distancing itself from the experiment and issuing a public apology. Lawsuits, federal investigations, and widespread outrage followed. Rumors persist that some of the crew refused to work with Adam and Jamie afterward, and the footage has become a dark piece of MythBusters folklore, whispered about in online forums but never officially acknowledged.

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"Imposter Busters" is an infamous unaired episode of MythBusters that became a source of scandal due to its disturbing premise and the fallout it caused between Adam and Jamie. The episode aimed to test whether a hyper-realistic silicone mask and voice modulation could allow one person to convincingly impersonate another, even to those closest to them.

Adam Savage, known for his over-the-top enthusiasm, pushed the boundaries of the experiment by commissioning a disturbingly lifelike silicone mask of Jamie’s face, complete with his signature mustache and beret. Without informing Jamie of his intentions, Adam secretly donned the disguise and visited Jamie's home while Jamie was away.

Adam spent an entire week in character as Jamie, apparently convincing Jamie's wife entirely of the ruse. Sources allege that Adam even commented on "the best lamb stew he'd had in years" during a dinner—a direct callback to an earlier conversation the real Jamie had with his wife.

The ruse unraveled when Jamie returned home unexpectedly and found "himself" seated at the dining table. Jamie froze in the doorway before quietly muttering, "What in God's name…?" Adam, still in character, stood up and tried to justify the experiment as “an extreme control test,” but the damage was done. Jamie’s expression reportedly shifted from shock to pure rage as he allegedly beat Adam to within an inch of his life.

The following day at the workshop, Jamie confronted Adam again in front of the entire crew. In an uncharacteristic outburst, Jamie slammed a sledgehammer into Adam's legs, shouting, “You crossed a line, Savage! That was my home!” Jamie ripped the silicone mask off Adam’s face, declaring it "an abomination" and threatening to quit the show if the footage ever aired.

The episode was immediately shelved, with producers citing concerns over ethical boundaries and the severe strain it placed on the relationship between the two hosts. While Adam defended his actions, claiming, “I just wanted to see if it was possible! It was for science!” Jamie reportedly remained furious for weeks, refusing to speak to Adam outside of on-camera segments.

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Rocket Car Revisited

(Opening shot: a barren desert runway, the sun beating down as Adam and Jamie stand next to a decrepit old muscle car with an enormous missile engine crudely bolted to the roof. Adam is grinning like a madman. Jamie, arms crossed, looks deeply skeptical.)

Adam: (grinning ear to ear) “Welcome to MythBusters! Today, we’re taking our original JATO Rocket Car myth to the next level. The question: Could a rocket-powered car really break records, cross borders... maybe even leave Earth?”

Jamie: (deadpan) “We’re bolting an ICBM to a car. It’s a terrible idea.”

Adam: (laughing) “Terrible? Or GENIUS?”

(The desert test site is eerily quiet, save for the low rumble of the ICBM engine warming up. Adam climbs into the driver’s seat, strapping in with a questionable-looking harness.)

Jamie: (stoic) “We’ve reinforced the frame. Theoretically, it should hold together. Just... don’t do anything stupid.”

Adam: (grinning) “Jamie, stupid is my middle name!”

(Jamie’s frown deepens as he steps back, holding a detonator in hand.)

Jamie: “Launching in three... two... one...”

(Jamie hits the switch. The missile engine roars to life with a deafening blast, the car shooting forward so fast it leaves a crater in the ground. Adam’s ecstatic voice crackles over the radio.)

Adam: “WHOOOOO! Now THATS what I call myth breaking!”

(The car rapidly accelerates, the wheels disintegrating as the vehicle speeds across the desert. Jamie stares stoically as the car hits a ramp and deflects upwards, vanishing into the sky with a trail of smoke.)

(Cut to Adam, onboard footage showing him grinning wildly as the car rockets upward, climbing higher and higher. Below, the curvature of the Earth becomes visible.)

Adam: (laughing) “Jamie, you’re not gonna believe this! I’m in the stratosphere! This is incredible!”

Jamie: (over the radio, deadpan) “Get ready to come down, Adam. The engine’s burning out.”

(Suddenly, alarms blare in the car. Adam looks around, panicked.)

Adam: “Uh... Jamie? I think I’m still going up.”

Jamie: (grimly) “You’re in free flight. You’re on your own.”

(The screen cuts to a radar station in Russia. Military personnel scramble as a large object enters their airspace. A red alert blares.)

Russian Officer: (in Russian, subtitled) “Unidentified object detected. Possible hostile missile. Engage defenses.”

(Cut back to Adam, still laughing nervously as the car hurtles across the Pacific toward Russian territory.)

Adam: “This is fine. This is totally fine. I’m just gonna—”

(A missile streaks across the sky, locking onto Adam’s car. There’s a brief moment of silence before a fiery explosion blooms in the distance.)

Adam Savage was declared missing in action. The wreckage was never recovered.

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Does Glitter Really Stay Forever?

The MythBusters Build Team set out to test the enduring myth that glitter is impossible to fully clean up. To simulate large-scale exposure, Tory filled the workshop’s ventilation system with several pounds of glitter, causing it to rain down continuously. Within minutes, the entire workshop and crew were covered in the shimmering particles.

Kari and Grant grew increasingly frustrated as the glitter embedded itself into their skin, clothes, and equipment, with attempts to clean it only spreading it further. Weeks after the experiment, glitter was still being found in unrelated projects and on crew members' bodies. Jamie flew into a rage and declared the test "an idiotic waste of time."

The MythBusters workshop was closed for professional cleaning, but traces of glitter remained years later, haunting the team. Jamie insisted the segment never be aired, but small glints of glitter can be seen in many episodes.