#mystic messenger meta

[stummy-grumbles]

you guys werent seeing my vision so i illustrated it for you

[starry-marshmallow]

This is something that’s been bothering me since I started playing mystic messenger and well I personally haven’t seen anyone discuss it.

For reference this is mainly about the Another Story and V Route timeline but it still applies to other timelines since it’s prevalent in the entire game.

Yoosung’s behavior towards Jihyun is made even more horrid considering how he admits multiple times that he doesn’t know much about Rika and V’s relationship and even Jihyun himself.

Whenever you ask him about their relationship or Rika and Jihyun as individuals, he just states that Rika was a happy person, Rika seemed happy with V, and that he doesn’t know much about Jihyun.

Despite this he’s so adamant about blaming Jihyun and suspecting him, so adamant about Rika not having mental health problems and not being “the kind of person to take her own life”.

He didn’t even know about Rika’s family and when he spoke to them himself and learned what they’re like and their thoughts on Rika. He still pulled the “V did way worse to Rika than her parents did”.

He’s speaking on a man and woman and their relationship despite not knowing much. They clearly wanted to keep certain things private and yet Yoosung does not respect or care to understand that.

And then Yoosung gets pissed when the other members step in and call him out for this shit or exclude him from certain things (e.i going to V’s house, going to rescue V and MC from Mint Eye, going to Rika’s apartment).

Saeyoung and Jumin were close to both of them and even they knew better than to cross obvious boundaries, antagonize, and harass someone whose behavior all points to a result of grieving.

There’s a clear lack of understanding of grief, mental health, and mental illness that Yoosung shows and doesn’t seem to really care to unpack which is extremely upsetting to see when you’ve been suicidal and/or lost a loved one and are grieving. Grief lives with you forever and you have to handle it in a healthy way. Yoosung doesn’t do that either.

[thotsforvillainrights]

Has anyone seen that trend going around art Twitter where you draw 2 comfort characters as the Steven Universe meme? Anyway, here's mine:

[xelasrecords]

Seven Crying Over a Brittle Cookie Turning Into a Guilt-Trip Because You're With Jumin?

Aka what is going on in the translation department.

This day 10 bread crumbs call in Jumin's route takes place after Seven ran into Saeran in the Mint-Eye building and found out that he's been lied to his whole life. The call is famous as the proof for the theory that Seven is in love with you in every route. But in Korean, he's not crying about you at all!

Line-by-line translation:

Seven: "kuku, kukukuku..." (crying sounds) MC: "Kuku? Is that a bird?" (the sounds he makes is similar to a bird's chirp) Seven: "No... You're wrong... I knew it, you only understand the CEO-in-line's feelings. I don't need anything..." Seven: "My brittle heart like Kukudasu cookies. It's already been broken like Kukudasu..." (Kukudasu is a mispronounciation of Couque D'asse*, a cookie brand, to avoid copyright) Seven: "Ugh... Poor Kukudasu... I'll eat you... Meet your friends in my belly. Kuku. Kuku!"

The rest of the translation is accurate enough.

*Seven sent a picture of the Couque D'asse cookie in the morning chatroom after this call. Here's the real-life comparison to the illustration:

It needs to be emphasised that although Seven did say "you only understand the CEO-in-line's feelings", it holds a different meaning from "you don't care about me. You only care about Jumin" in this context. Rather than guilt-tripping you, he's lamenting the fact that you didn't understand his Kukudasu cookie reference.

This whole call is a metaphor for Seven's pain about Saeran being the Mint-Eye's hacker in the form of a brittle cookie. Not about him getting heartbroken because you like Jumin. Causing people to misunderstand Seven's feelings because of a poor translation is a great disservice to his character.

[maespri]

mystic messenger posting in 2024... we are so back

jaehee kang thought dump under the cut... nobody can stop me...

i recently decided to replay jaehee's route due to a friend (i first played this game in early 2020) and i'm actually ill over her route. i've played literally every route and i don't think any of them make me feel quite as strongly as jaehee's.

and i can't quite pinpoint why... i think part of it might actually be because of the lack of romance? like. don't get me wrong i love jaehee and i do wish romancing her was an option. but i feel like taking away that option made it so much more... potent, somehow... less like you're "fixing her" and "fixing her life" (which is. unfortunately kind of how i feel about some other routes) and more just like. opening her eyes to the life she deserves. and it's not even just you doing it this time- all of the RFA members come together to support her (except jumin but he's evil in her route wbk), and it feels like such a breath of fresh air.

lee basil pointed something out in a video essay i watched recently (incredible video btw) which went into yoosung's route. they pointed out that the characters really change depending on whose route you're playing and not necessarily always in a good way. but in jaehee's route, i think the characterization is really perfect.

like the amount of emotional intelligence and kindness each character has is so strong and just makes me So Happy, especially compared to yoosung's route. Actually, on the topic of that- i wasn't going to go into how jaehee acts in his route but now i want to because. WTF. no hate to yoosung at all- i love him and his route- but why are the characters so... Dumb...? sometimes? You're telling me when someone (can't remember who sorry but trust me) is like "yoosung is probably addicted to games and lost his passion for school because he's grieving rika," jaehee's response is something like, "no way... i had no idea..."

cheritz, look at me. she would Not fucking say that. if any of these characters have the strongest grasp on what it's like to grieve someone, it would be jaehee?

anyway. back to her route. can i talk about how much more it hits now that i'm no longer thirteen/fourteen years old playing it. like she's touching on capitalism and the loss of her happiness and passion because of it. she's touching on how grief still impacts her life. she's touching on how the support of the people around her is all she needs to keep going during these Trying Times of the Unfortunate Reign of Jumin Han and the Cat Hotel Project. she talks about her rough upbringing and how she felt like she was only worthy of other's company and support if she was working and making something of herself. and it feels really great to be able to go in there and be like, Hey. You're still worthy of a lot even if you aren't overworking yourself. You deserve better than this, and not just that, you can have better than this. like. really serves as a reminder to Myself that the same still applies to Me.

and she isn't met with criticism for beginning to develop that sentiment thanks to the support of MC- in fact, everyone around her is literally begging jaehee to FREE HERSELF! i just love the community that her route builds up and how sweet it is. i love being able to watch her sort through her feelings and break out of that mindset of "i'm not worth anything if i'm not doing something."

and the fact that she develops that mindset because of the way she was raised... losing her parents, moving in with her relatives who treated her poorly, who wanted her to get a job straight after high school. but jaehee didn't want to be a disappointment. she went through college, she worked hard, she got a stable job with a great salary. she's such a hard worker that jumin hardly considers her human- which is awful. but definitely showcases how incredible she is.

but she doesn't even blame her relatives or anyone else for the fact that her life is the way it is and that is also monumental to me? like her relatives were actively going against everything she wanted to do, but when jaehee talks about them, she's like, "i think they did the best they could, and i'm very grateful they took me in." that's amazing. she internalizes everything she feels and doesn't push blame onto anyone but herself, and while that's not always a good trait to have, i think it really does show how like. intrinsically motivated she is as a person to do the best she can, all the time.

also, don't even get me staaaarted on the fact that she cares about jumin so much even though he treats her absolutely awful. she feels bad for him for the amount of work he has in her route. she empathizes with him more than he ever does with her. if i were her i would probably go to jumin's penthouse and hit everything with a metal bat. she's stronger than me.

anyway, in all seriousness... i'm glad she gets her happy ending leaving her terrible job behind and actually getting to do something she's passionate about. i think her passion for coffee is adorable and the fact that that passion literally becomes her Life in her good ending? it's adorable.

a popular complaint i see regarding jaehee's route is that it feels more like zen getting jaehee's route LMFAO. but. i personally think that the friendship she builds up with zen over the course of her route is so beautiful. if you play from the prologue to the end he literally goes from not recognizing her in a photo seven sends to buying her a present and telling her that he's going to make it a life goal of his to continue supporting her in all of her dreams. he goes from thinking things are kind of awkward with her to buying her a present and getting lunch with her.

and i also think that's really beautiful for jaehee, getting to hang out with someone who inspires her and whom she admires so much. in fact, i'd argue that it makes even more sense for zen to be such a central part of her route because... he basically planted the seeds for inspiration and joy in jaehee? long before MC ever came around. he just didn't realize he could do so much for her until MC does come around. i think it's also great that jaehee gets that support from the guy who is basically her idol, because it makes it so that it means that much more to her.

like idk there's something poetic about jaehee saying that zen (referring to his acting and musicals etc) is the only thing that brings her happiness, and then actually finding happiness outside of zen because he encourages her to do so by supporting her. You know what i mean? is the parallel paralleling. maybe i'm just in my own echo chamber WHATEVER my point stands. i love jaehee and zen i think they're best friends.

phewww anyway. that's the whole post that's all. i love jaehee kang

[xelasrecords]

He is knowledgeable enough about mental health! Source: Ray's AE. You're right Mia he'd be so tender and eager to know more about you because he'd want to be of help as much as he could.

I also think it'd be funny if he digs too deep into the mental illness research hole and accidentally diagnoses himself like "oh shit that's me maybe I'M also traumatised. Well, off to therapy too then!"

@natasha-in-space, how will Jumin react if MC needs to go to therapy for her PTSD (specifically PTSD) aside from being on medications? just curious

Jumin will be completely understanding and supportive. I know there is a misconception that he is somehow 'cold' and 'insensitive' to other people's feelings, but that's not the case at all. Especially not with you. He's fully aware of the importance of mental health, and I do believe that he educates himself on the matter rather frequently. Although he's not an expert, he has enough knowledge to treat the topic of mental health with the respect it deserves.

Now, when it comes to you, I do believe he would like to learn more about your mental health history and the experiences you've gone through before meeting him. His love for you has led him to open his heart to the world for the first time in his life. You've made him feel heard, understood, and, most importantly, cherished. He wants to do the same for you. He won't push you to share anything with him if you're uncomfortable. Nor will he invade your privacy in any way. Jumin respects you, and he trusts you to know what's best for you.

He also trusts you to know that you can count on him when necessary.

So, your level of openness to him is up to you. Either way, he will do everything in his power to help you in any way possible. He is willing to educate himself further on the specifics of PTSD, but he would definitely prefer it if you told him what he needs to know yourself. Simply because he wants to do his best by you. Your boundaries, triggers, medications, and daily routine. He will listen and memorize it all.

So, if you need to seek therapy for your PTSD, you don't have to worry about him being confused or put off by it. You can count on him to be an encouraging and supportive presence by your side. He'll take your hand, bring it up to his lips, brush his lips over your knuckles, and murmur that he's proud of you. He's proud of you for seeking out the help you need. He'll make sure you know that you're not alone in this. He won't hesitate to hold you close to his chest and rock you gently if you need it.

Of course, it's not like it'll be picture perfect. Mishaps and conflicts are inevitable in any relationship. But Jumin is a partner that is eager to learn and overcome all challenges together with you, as a pair. Once you've built a level of trust with him, he's a great communicator, all things considered.

Jumin will provide you with his connections if needed. But if you know what you need, he'll let you handle it on your own.

Your relationship with him relies on trust as one of the most essential values. Jumin trusts you to come to him when you need it, and he wants you to trust him to be your pillar of support in times of hardship.

[starry-marshmallow]

Whenever I see a “this fandom doesn’t hold jihyun accountable” I scoff because you’re right, but not in the way you intended. Most just straight up blame him for literally everything and mock his trauma, no proper accountability or nuance.

[cheritzteam-es]

[Mystic Messenger] Feliz Navidad🎄 Fin de año más feliz por pasarla juntos, evento de cumpleaños de Jaehee diciembre del 2024

Hola, somos Cheritz.

En un santiamén ha llegado diciembre, el último mes del año. 

Coordinadora, ¿cómo has pasado este año?   

Ya han pasado 8 años desde el lanzamiento de Mystic Messenger. ¿Habrá entre las personas que están leyendo este anuncio que han acompañado a Mystic Messenger desde hace 8 años hasta este fin de año del 2024? 😊

Cuando se acerca el fin de año, solemos sentir una mezcla de satisfacción y melancolía porque el año está terminando, mientras nos llenamos de expectativas y establecemos metas para el año que viene. 

Además, con las decoraciones navideñas y el ambiente festivo por todos lados, nos sentimos más emocionados de lo normal, ¿nos les parece? 

¡En diciembre no solo está la Navidad, sino que también tenemos otra fecha importante para celebrar! 

Nos referimos al cumpleaños de Jaehee, quien encaja perfectamente con el ambiente cálido y emocionante de fin de año. 

Dice que planea pasar un día muy especial por su cumpleaños, para más detalles sigue leyendo este anuncio. 😉

< ① Evento de cumpleaños de Jaehee >

Debido al ambiente navideño y de fin de año, Jaehee suele pasar su cumpleaños un poco más emocionada y más ilusionada que los demás. 

¡Este año también, ha llegado como siempre su cumpleaños junto al fin de año! 

Este año, Jaehee tendrá un cumpleaños aún más especial, ya que aceptó ayudar en el café porque se lo pidió un conocido. 

Algunos podrían pensar que trabajar en tu cumpleaños puede ser demasiado, pero Jaehee se sintió encantada por el favor que le pidieron.

Como bien sabes, a Jaehee le encanta el café y desde el día que se lo pidieron ha estado esperando con ansías trabajar en el café. 

(Me he enterado que ha batido récord de ventas histórico… ☕ Si quieres saber más sobre la lucha solitaria de Jaehee en el café, ¡ten paciencia que pronto te enterarás!)

Además, habrá un evento de posteo en X por el cumpleaños de Jaehee.

Entre las personas que reposteen, entregaremos por sorteo 50 relojes de arena​⌛♥ (15 ganadores)

Además, ¡también hemos preparado un evento bonus⌛ por el cumpleaños de Jaehee!

Usa el hashtag ​#Feliz_cumple_Jaehee y salúlada por su cumpleaños,

y no te pierdas de los 50 relojes de arena que entregaremos por sorteo♥

Por último, se llevará a cabo descuentos especiales por Navidad y algunos productos relacionados a Jaehee, si has estado dudando en comprar, ¡no te pierdas esta oportunidad por nada★ del mundo!

Periodo de descuento en la tienda de Cheritz : 23 de diciembre (lunes) 2pm ~  30 de diciembre (lunes) 2pm (KST)

< ② Evento de inicio de sesión >

Si inicias sesión durante el periodo mencionado a continuación, ¡podrás disfrutar de la imagen de portada por el cumpleaños de Jaehee! Disfruta del juego con la hermosa ilustración y festeja el cumpleaños de ella. 

Además, en diciembre, para celebrar tanto el cumpleaños de Jaehee y la Navidad, la recompensa de relojes de arena se ha duplicado. ¡No te lo pierdas!

Periodo de la ilustración de portada: 20 de diciembre (viernes) ~ 31 de diciembre (martes) (KST)

Recompensa por el cumpleaños de Jaehee & Navidad: 24 de diciembre (martes) ~ 30 de diciembre (lunes) (KST)

¿Qué te han parecido las noticias de los eventos de diciembre que hemos preparado?

Agradecemos de antemano a todas las coordinadoras que participarán en el evento de cumpleaños de Jaehee y el evento de Navidad.

¡No falta mucho para que termine el 2024, así que dejen todas las dificultades acá y esperamos que tengan solo noticias felices este 2025 que llega! 

Gracias por acompañarnos y mostrar su amor por Mystic Messenger este año también♥

De Cheritz.

[xelasrecords]

V and Jumin's Emotionally Distant Friendship

At first I wanted to laugh at Jumin roasting his friend for being pretty outside but empty inside but then what V said got me thinking

2 important statements here: 1) V believes that a friendship is a mirror that reflects oneself and 2) Jumin sees V as an empty statue, beautiful but hollow inside, something that people could only fleetingly appreciate before moving on to a more interesting thing because it has no depth. V agrees with Jumin, and even if we don't know whether Jumin believes in V's mirror analogy, it is true for them.

V and Jumin are lonely because the ones they love and claim to love them back never bother to know them deeply. They have the same insecurity, but their coping mechanism is different. V uses Rika to define himself as the man who could love grandly and withstand any trials and tribulations in the name of love. Jumin closes himself from everyone and projects his unhealthy definition of love onto his cat, building up the fantasy that it could understand him like a human would.

But once the illusion is shattered—that neither of them could give a perfect love because perfection doesn't exist—they break inside. V spirals into existential crisis while Jumin refuses to take back his cat that ran away from him. They share a common belief that their love has to be perfect. They have to be the best or they would be a failure. This is what Jumin says after he finally agreed to take back Elizabeth the 3rd due to V's persuasion:

But because V and Jumin are living in their own fantasies, how could they be there for each other? How could they look into each other's emptiness and recognise how lonely the other really is, and offer emotional support when they've never learned how to do so?

The emotional closeness doesn't exist in their friendship because they can't cross the bridge. They have a shared history and deep trust, but when there's a pressing matter in the present, they don't quite know how to strengthen each other, and what is a best friend if you can't be there for them when they need it the most?

Below is one of the examples where V thinks Jumin only ever keeps one thing from him when Jumin's biggest secret is actually his feelings for Rika that he had to hide to honour his best friend's relationship:

It's sad for everyone involved. V is blissfully ignorant and thankful that Jumin still trusts him despite his self-isolating secrets, while Jumin can't even show that he's also just as lonely. They can't lean on each other when they need to.

Sure, Jumin could get the best doctors for V due to his connections and V could persuade Jumin keep Elizabeth the 3rd because he knows him best. They were helpful on a surface level but the emotional job falls solely on the MC, which could be romantic if you look at it in a "wow there's only one person who could change them" way, but isn't it heartbreaking to have a friend so close to you yet feel so far away? Romantic love is important, but platonic friendship is just as meaningful. The trust and deep understanding of each other's nature are already there, so what they need to do is simply nurture their friendship and go to therapy.

On a more positive note, Jumin and V see their counterpart as the better person. V may believe that a friendship cannot change him since it's only a mirror, but if he sees Jumin as inherently better, doesn't that reflect his opinion on himself? They believe in themselves and feel their decisions validated because they trust each other. Jumin only decides to keep Elizabeth the 3rd because he values V's opinion highly, which in turn makes him better in accepting himself. V is always thankful for Jumin's unwavering trust, which pushes him to be a better person because he wants to be more like him.

Their selflessness is also a mirror. Who else but V and Jumin who would drop everything for the safety of the RFA? V would literally give up his life and Jumin would give up his C&R position and take the fall for the RFA.

I hope after their respective good endings, they'll learn to be vulnerable and open up. Their friendship will be more fulfilling and their trust will be strengthened because of it.

[xelasrecords]

V too while we're at it

Imagine if the fandom reduced Saeyoung to that time he ignore the mc and keep his distance or Saeran to when he was straight up abusing, starving and insulting the mc constantly

Feeling that it's unfair?

That's what Jumin and Yoosung fans have to deal with constantly because none of you know how to read what's in front of your eyes

Yoosung is reduced to the first two days of his route and Jumin to his bad ending and somehow it never stopped since the beginning

I wonder how an interpretation that the canon itself disproved many time can still be talked about like it's actually what happen like this

Stupid fanon

[eleiyaumei]

Mystic Messenger Hot Takes

MysMe would be a better game without the Mint Eye (meta-) plot

the routes all suffer from the 50/50 split between romance+character development and plot - both parts end up feeling rushed and contrived

the route endings are incomplete because Cheritz wants you to pay for the After Endings - in normal otome, the ending and the AE would be one part

crossdressing Seven is prettier than Rika

[kaus-quietis]

Lav's All-smiles Problem-solving Roooooundtable ch108 edition!

Welcome, welcome! To Lav's BSD ch108 discussion! Delivered to you via my funky dove Eliott, acting as my mystic messenger. These are random thoughts I had after reading this brilliant chapter, which, writing-wise, made the best possible use of Fedya's character, expanding it even more without even betraying his backstory. Maybe a backstory isn't needed after all, just look at how much FUN he is right now. I am in BLISS

Putting aside the fact that he is literally carrying the plot at this point, come sit with me, I make you a delicious Chinese black tea with rose petals and casually share my thoughts. Hello there, dearest Kat, yes, "where is Lav when you need her?", I am here, I offer you a hug, and to all my friends here who share the sentiment, I hug you too.

A. Before you say ANYTHING about "oh but? maybe Fedya is telling the half-truth? or a half-lie? what if his ability really is the evil one?", my brothers and sisters in Christ, listen to yourself. This man functions almost on a meta-level of character consciousness: he changed his facial expression and aura so convincingly, his tone, his speech, his posture, even the shade of his eyes, fooling not only Sigma, but the readers as well. We are used to characters changing the shade of their eyes when they change mental states or have certain (new) decisions in mind, we as a community are so used to this, all it took was one panel from the Conjurer doing this trick for so many of us to actually believe him and start, yet again, to spiral down the "what if he is good but his ability is evil? what if he is two entities? what if?" rollercoaster. This is so amusing to me, and in a meta-sense must be amusing to Fedya too. While speculation can bloom again based on this, I wouldn't be putting too much effort into reading into his lines here. I take it as a trick. It worked splendidly, almost like it attacked the fandom's major concerns and theories about his character and weaponized them against everyone. That's a meta-kind of tomfoolery. Trolling, if you will. I LOVE that Asagiri made him bamboozle every reader like this. His character so far goes into the best direction, it cultivates and expands his traits and skills in the best way. But let's pretend Fedya really is telling a half-truth there, which is there being an opposition between him and his ability. I talked about this in my essay (see pinned post), there really seems to be a divergence at the core of his character, but it manifests subtly, not like what we saw in ch108. Then again, not even on that can we arrive at any conclusive statements, because if we remember that, of course, "crime and punishment are close friends", it could well be that he and his ability are partners, and you bet I imagine they would BOTH indulge in peak tomfoolery like this together, if that meant one of them switching in and the other out for a sec. Remember, dear souls: aside from his "higher mission", abstract as it still is lore-wise, Fedya's keyword is "fun" or "entertainment", repeatedly. And oh he himself is even more fun now~

B. if Fedya would have wanted to mortally wound Sigma, he'd have chosen a more suitable place to stab him; it looks like a abdominal, lower quadrant, lateral stab, a deliberate choice, I would say, that technically avoids critical, most vascular organs (kidney and spleen for example) and main veins/arteries. I am no doctor, but from what I gathered, Sigma won't bleed out fast at all, and if untreated might get a deadly infection in a longer time (not counting the possibility of septic shock if we assume the knife penetrated and heavily opened an intestine). Sigma needs a medic asap (our queen Yosano when?), but will likely be conscious and quite able to move around and whatnot. Like I argued in my essay, Fedya most likely does not want to kill Sigma, or anybody for that matter, because keeping everyone alive to fulfill various roles and see how their will tosses them in all kinds of directions is more fun for him, more entertaining, but also more useful. He is a long-term strategist, like Dazai. "Our beloved monsters" ❤

C. Fedya evidently exerts some serious mental torment on Sigma, by making him stand by his choices, his will, just like he always desired. The flip side is that Fedya takes his time, or should I say gifts Sigma his time, in which he teaches him the full lesson of what Sigma wants. The responsibility that comes with acting on your own, the terror of facing the consequences when choosing on your own: right now, to Sigma, this freedom is terror. But Fedya is never a one-dimensional character. It's most probable he calculated and devised strategies for both possibilities (a. Sigma with rekindled determination touches him; b. Sigma backpedals on what he decided and does not touch him). The irony is that both scenarios are an affirmation of Sigma's will, because, while the first decision can be seen like foolish bravery, the second one can also be seen as wise self-preservation, if the circumstances so demand it. BSD is not a black-and-white series, diving head-first into danger is not its definition of bravery or heroism. BSD was always about measured decisions, ones the characters take upon themselves willingly. It may be time Sigma does that too, in his own way, and Fedya wants to see that. Why? Well, my guess is because it's fascinating to watch humans grow, and Fedya lives for the entertainment that comes with it. It is actually more interesting if we remember his line from ch42 (“People can be so simple… They truly believe they are thinking for themselves. (…) They don’t want to think they’re being led by the nose”): the pattern is, Fedya puts others under harsh circumstances, and then, under pressure, lets go of them, waiting for their free decision, the true test and expression of their hearts, so to say (which could make a superb discussion if we make a parallel between Kunikida and Sigma, since essentially what happened to Kunikida is happening now to Sigma, except Kunikida did indeed break down, but thanks to healthy support from his comrades he slowly regained his sense of self, and stronger than ever at that time, however… Sigma is alone, isn't he? but what if he needs to be in order to finally get a hold of his own self?). Anyway, how much of that expression is free, or how much is guided or manipulated, is a debate in itself, since it implies relating the freedom to the individual vs relating the freedom to the external factors and possibilites.

D. I do need to underline, just like Fedya also underlined it: Sigma already made his decision, right there when he still tried to get the gun before getting kicked in the face. Fedya moved on to the next step: testing how strong Sigma's will is when an actual chance to act appears. Sigma already accepted the physical pain, but how will he face the mental anguish? That is more Fedya's territory, a "specialist" of breaking people by simply knowing them thoroughly and choosing the right words. But now we gained new info: even in close combat, apparently, Fedya is not to be underestimated. That was a rather strong kick, anyway. But more importantly, he completely turned the tables in a situation where he would be in a total disadvantage. * chef's kiss * that was very bungou stray dogs of him.

[galaxytastes]

Okay, but consider... Mystic Messenger main 7, except in Genshin's universe. What visions do you think each of them would have? Or who wouldn't have one, if you believe so 🤔

Ohohohoho, thank you for asking me this! My friends and I have talked about this plenty of times and have come up with vision/weapon headcanons for all of them (including Rika and Vanderwood, of course.) If you think otherwise or want to share your headcanons, please let me know. I love talking about Genshin and Mystic Messenger 🤓

Here they are listed in the order of how I first played the routes <3

Jaehee: Geo bow! She'd be very polite and defensive in her combat style; maybe an off-field support? Her signature drink would obviously be a little latte. Maybe her passive has to do with buffing certain albino actors.

Zen: Hydro polearm. This one was tough and I had to talk to my friend about it a little bit, but I think hydro polearm would suit him best. Graceful, allowing him to use his whole body in combat. He'd be a hypercarry DPS and he'd have a tiny sneeze voice line for when you walk near kitties.

Yoosung: Anemo catalyst. I had an idea that he could have a "game controller" as a weapon, using it to control his attacks from a step back. As much as I know he would love to be a huge claymore wielding knight in shining armor, I'm just being realistic.

Jumin: Cryo sword. Jumin can be confrontational at times and maybe a bit rude, but I think he would be a very meta off-field DPS. He'd have a very princely fighting style, sort of like Albedo's auto attacks. You guys are so lucky I can't draw, you don't know how bad I want to see Genshin Jumin now... I had to pause to daydream for a minute.

Saeyoung: Electro polearm. This one I was a little biased on, because electro is my favorite element and I project onto this loser so much, BUT I genuinely think it would fit him. He could make little gadgets to help him fight or maybe a cat robot... It's hard for me to decide if he'd be more defensive or offensive, because I could definitely see both.

V: Anemo bow. V would not want to get up close and personal when it comes to a fight. As my friend perfectly worded it, "anemo would be great because of how much he blows everyone off." He is flighty, sneaky, dare I say cowardly at times (cough, most the time). He would love a bow; something he could use from far away and behind an enemies back. I think he would definitely have some sort of martyr style ability, like a loss in his HP would boost his own attack or something.

Saeran: Dendro catalyst. Similarly to how Childe switches weapons in his skill, Saeran could switch (Ray and Saeran). He could have a catalyst style flowery attack mode, where the dendro "poison" leeches from the enemy, but also he could switch to a polearm! In this mode, its more offensive and thorny. While I completely agree with this headcanon, it is not at all my own! My dear friend Breezy came up with this idea and I loved it so much, it became canon to me.

Rika: Cryo catalyst. Rika, like Saeyoung, could absolutely be both offensive and defensive in combat, but I enjoy the idea of her being a dependable support unit. Maybe with a shield of some kind? She'd have the prettiest move set, really angelic.

Vanderwood: I almost forgot Vandy oh my goodness, forgive me. Pyro claymore! I think he’d have some kind of sexy combat style using smoke and he’d work perfectly with Saeyoung, of course. Overload VanderSeven. Something off-field and “undercover”, but he’d hit really hard. Maybe a burst DPS with support capabilities! He’d have like four voice lines about Saeyoung and they’d get progressively more exhausted yet charmed… Love you Vandy

Again, these are all just my (and my good friend's) opinions and fun headcanons. If you would be interested in full summaries of their kits I have headcanoned, I would love to share in more detail :D Thank you for reading!

[xelasrecords]

My take on V and Rika's kiss is that V would tell Jumin after a little probing from the latter. Jumin would ask how the experience was for him, how it felt, what he did and V would blush and stutter but still try to explain because he knew his best friend just wanted to understand. It's Jumin's love language to know everything about the people he loves.

Jumin v. Insecurity

so after writing this response my mind could not help but linger on when Jumin asked MC if she had been seeing someone else. on the evening day 8, if the player accuses Jumin of blackmailing her, he responds with:

now, why would Jumin jump to such a conclusion when MC had spent the entire night at his penthouse and at that point spent a solid 24 hours there? how could Jumin, the tall, corporate heir with looks that stun make such an objectively unlikely assumption?

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[asmo-cosmetics]

Okok I don't mean this as hate I'm just curious what demoncest game is Canon in the games (minus asmo's flirting/comments he makes to the bros!!) (Again I don't mean this as hate I guess I just never picked up on it +super behind in both games) (sorry for the long ask-/g

you're good, but i do want to point something out in your ask because i've seen it other places too – asmo's behavior is definitely incestuous lol. he's a member of the family flirting with other members of the family, and this is largely just seen as a cute-if-slightly-annoying quirk of his (which i add for the asmo-hating "the brothers hate it and think it's gross when he does that!!" crowd). anyway, just off the top of my head:

asmo is archetypically written as a brocon for lucifer. the main point of the "jewel of the heavens" story was to establish this, especially when simeon later accidentally lightly roasts asmo for making it his entire personality. like, the point of it is asmo is obsessed with being beautiful because that's how he can see himself as being useful to lucifer, to earn more of his love and attention.

lucifer's "punishments" for mammon are heavily implied to be sexual. during the retreat, when diavolo helps lucifer punish him literally all night long, mc and levi are (semi) joking about what the three of them must have been doing, and it's so graphic that simeon covers luke's ears.

also, can't forget mc is canonically the brothers' great-niece or -nephew. i know they tried to do some retcon on that one but come on now.

this one's kind of a meta thing but i feel like it counts so i'm adding it. one of the primary artists for cards of the twins is a career yaoi artist

but also just the twins in general. like. you are absolutely supposed to read them as shoujo twincest twins. i feel stupid even trying to argue this one because it's so obvious. if you tell belphie in season one that you have feelings for beel your intimacy with BELPHIE goes up. belphie describes his ideal life after running away as "belphie, beel and mc live happily ever after." they share a room. they have telepathy. i mean please.

satan and lucifer have this very fucked mutualistic oedipal thing going on. it doesn't come up often but it is weird as shit every time and i love it. every time lucifer reminds satan that he is technically his mother he says it in the same teasing/smug way he usually uses to flirt, and satan responds with embarrassment/blushing. "in your case, even more?" "why don't you just say 'lucifer, i need affection?'" etc

in one of the early early events i think p&c but i don't remember we get the iconic knowledge that leviathan finds humiliation "titillating!" which was in response to belphie insulting him that is what turned him on

belphie and satan's hatred of diavolo and psychosexual obsession with lucifer that are very much connected because talking about how much lucifer sucks and they hate him INCREDIBLY quickly devolved into "he's so obsessed with diavolo. i hate how he's with diavolo all the time. they're probably having sex. lucifer probably lets diavolo do anything he wants to him" like are you guys ok

belphie constantly talks about how beautiful asmo is with zero hint of irony like will just out of hand be like "my older brother who's stunningly gorgeous" as if that's a normal thing to say

everybody talks about lilith super normal you guys. especially belphie. whose very normal reaction to lilith having a human boyfriend who did not do anything wrong except die was to reverse course on his defining characteristic and develop a genocidal hatred of humans. also him holding mc and calling them lilith. it's giving yoosung mystic messenger saying you're just like rika but ok

in conclusion, very regular family

[starry-marshmallow]

Parallels of these two about involving others and standing firm in their own goals.