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cyborgdumptruck · 6 months ago
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A review for Sonic Movie 3. Anyone who hasn't watched it yet, please do, I highly recommend it. The following text will contain some spoilers. For the record, I have been a Sonic fan since I was 10, so to me these movie series are a great deal.
I played Sonic Adventure not so long time ago, around 2020, unfortunately I just didn't have a console. So the feelings I had after the walkthrough were fresh (just as recent MGS3 walkthrough). So, this is my personal view on the movie adaptation.
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Character design—As many fans have mentioned since the first movie, the redesign of the characters was a great move. They all look organic in a realistic environment. The quills and fur feel soft, and the details of the models are great.
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Jim Carry did a great job portraying Robotnik. All of his scenes and his performance as Gerald are perfect, funny and close to the canonic Eggman. He had fun with this role for sure :3 Look at them go!
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Agent Stone x Robotnik ship is now canon (Robotnik literally said, 'I love you' to him in his last moments), and I couldn't stop saying 'aaaaw' about their scenes.
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OMG they even added CHAO
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Maria's sequence is cute and fulfilling, she needed it. In games, she barely has screen time, so it is a big plus.
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Also, the Ark was moved to Earth, Gerald is alive, and this plot line was different in Sonic Adventure, too, but I think it still makes sense. I like how the screenwriters made the plot fit the realistic setting and also filled the plot holes that were in the game.
No Biolizard boss fight :(
'I found you faker' scene reimagined was a chef's kiss
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Shadow didn't say 'Chaos control' or 'I am the Ultimate Life Form' and that's alright.
No Black Doom, but the 'Black Arms' meteorite that arrived on Earth gives us the needed lore about Shadow's origin.
The final battle scene, the conversation between Sonic and Shadow on the moon, was fantastic. I almost got a tear. It's beautiful, they finally settle things between each other. Sonic just couldn't kill him; he is just not the type of character. The scrip writers dove deep into the lore and adapted it brilliantly.
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Sonadow now feels more canon than ever. My inner shipper screams, "I must draw something with them." I also love the parallels of the moon scene. Of course, I also instantly thought of the Cyberpunk 2077 moon scene.
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Tails and Knuckles were cute, and the group hug in the end was just aaaaw. Sonic Team & Knuckles made me chuckle 😄
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I would like to rewatch it in English dub, obviously for Idris Elba and Keanu Reeves.
When 'Live and Learn' started playing I had goosebumps, and almost jumped out of my sit
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Metal Sonic's and Amy's appearance was peak after the credits, holy shit
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In conclusion, Sonic 3 is one of the greatest game adaptions I have seen so far. Every detail and every action scene doesn't feel overwhelming, I actually don't mind the plot's slight alteration from the canon. I enjoyed it a lot and I had lots of fun!
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orangejuice-djn · 8 days ago
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New favorite rare pair just dropped
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I’ve been thinking about them recently (specifically how they might have interacted during the war)
Please don’t mind the spelling mistakes English is indeed my first language
Reasons to ship + headcanons below
Reasons to ship Diet Sonadow Knuxilver
Their both bad with people. Both I see as stubborn in and straight forward that make them seem rude. Taking things literally and not getting deeper meanings of things.
and they’re the last of their kind (in different ways of Knuckles being the last of the echidnas and Silver just being the last person ever)
And the fact that growing up alone made them easily trust others and being trick (Knuckle by Eggman and Silver by Mephiles) with Knuckles putting up his walls more so then Silver
Plus the dynamic of Silver not knowing his past and always look towards the future and Knuckles having a vast history of his peoples past
Putting them in a room together were they have to interact would be interesting as their both so similar but also quite different with Silver being more naive and Knuckle being more head strong
—- as for headcanons —-
- I imagine if their was any point in the games where they would get closer it would be (as stated earlier) Forces as with Sonic presumed dead and Shadow presumed traitor, Silver would be the only super powered hedgehog they had
This mixed with Silver being very used to different types of doomed futures makes him a light of hope during these times (literally, because he glows)
- the thing with Silver giving one of his inhibitor rings to Knuckles is Silver giving Knuckles a piece of him before he goes to fight to ensure he gets back safe (the inhibitor ring caring residual energy from Silver)
And I thought of this later of if in Knuckles’ culture giving golden quill jewelry is Sean as sort of romantic and thought it would be cute
-Silver loses control of his powers when he has intense emotions specially when it comes to himself levitating
Like Silver is thinking really hard about something and accidentally starts to float away so Knuckles has to physically grab and drag him down to earth
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I have more headcanons but those have to be saved for another day as I have no idea how to explain it through words
And now looking back I don’t think I exsplains this very well but I can’t be assed to re-word it somehow
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lunareel · 5 months ago
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Did you like the sonic movies? (PLEASE ramble)
stobotnik?
I did like all the Sonic movies! I think the third one is my favorite with the second movie very close behind. I liked the first movie, but I felt like it had too many scenes focusing on the people (or that they dragged on too long) when I wanted more scenes focusing on Sonic. The next two movies felt like it had a much better balance of that.
With the exception of any scene Eggman or Agent Stone was in. Those two characters made that first movie for me. I was so happy to see Agent Stone was popular enough to appear in the following movies, he was a very welcomed addition.
I do like Stobotnik a lot! When I first saw the movie I told my family and friends that the internet is going to pair the two together so much and I am happy to see I was right. I admit I don't do a lot of ship art anymore, but I think I'd like to do some of them sometime along with some other sonic ships I enjoy. I think my favorite thing I've seen is when people design what Agent Stone could look like in the Sonic games.
Not quite sure what specifically you want me to ramble on but I'll just give gen thoughts I have.
I understand why Amy and Rouge didn't appear in the plot of the third movie because of just how many characters they were juggling and how they had paced out everything it made sense. I am still sad about it though, as I really wanted to see those two for that movie. I don't know, I'm just bummed that the few major female Sonic characters have been on the backburner for so long.
I was very happy to see Amy in the after credits scene along side Metal Sonic. My friends and I are wondering if Neo Metal Sonic or Metal Overlord will make an appearance at all. We're also wondering if the fourth movie will cover parallel dimensions, time travel, etc. based on Metal Sonic and Amy just warping in (Amy very much giving I've come from the future to stop Terminator vibes). Also theorizing on whether it'll be an alternate Eggman or Agent Stone will be the major villain of the next one if not Neo Metal Sonic.
I adored all the Maria scenes, and I wish she had like one or two more just because of how much I liked seeing her interact with Shadow. I'm curious to see if they will end up doing a show covering Shadow's and Maria's time in the lab together. I feel like that would be a very interesting and tragic show.
The VA for Knuckles, Idris Elba, works so well for me. I was a little worried at first, but after seeing the trailer I went okay you work really well. Knuckles as well I am happy to see they didn't make him like his Sonic Boom iteration. I know he is headstrong, but in Boom he felt more dumb. (Very similar sentiment to Keanu Reeves voice Shadow, I was initially very hesitant on it, but ended up working very well for me.)
Tails VA did such a solid job, like I heard him and I went woah that is Tails. When I checked up his VA and saw that it was Collen O'shaughnessey, I was like oh my god it is actually Tails! No wonder he sounded perfect.
Sonic's VA I just can't unhear Ben Schwartz doing Ben Schwartz . He has a very specific character type he plays that his voice is so distinguishable it can take me out of it. It's not bad, but I do feel taken out of it when I can just hear the actor instead of feeling like I'm listening to the character if that makes sense. Like for example, I liked the Mario movie but I CANNOT stand Chris Pratt as Mario, all I hear is Chris Pratt, he feels so off and it takes me so out of it. I will say at least for Ben Schwartz his voice does feel close to Sonic and that he puts in the effort, but to me there's some moments where I go oh it's Ben Schwartz instead of fully thinking yes Sonic is talking right now. Hopefully this makes sense.
I will say I've gotten more used to it for each movie though. (I am not excited to hear Pratt more in Mario Movie 2, and it's the one thing I actually dread for that movie and genuinely makes me not want to go see the movie.) But overall I wish that like Tails, they got one of his game VAs to do the movie instead. Knuckles's movie VA can stay though (though I definitely wouldn't have minded if it was one of his older VAs as well, especially if it was close to Sonic X's version).
Lowkey wished Tom actually died from when Shadow attacked him. It's not that I dislike Tom I think he is fine, but I feel like it would've been a stronger parallel and given the movie more weight, but that's just me.
Actually quick side tangent, I hate the change of how Maria died. I knew going into this movie that they would make the military more sympathetic and I was so disappointed to be right. It's a small change but it's one I very much dislike that sours the taste of her death in my mouth. Instead of it being like no the soldiers were very much intent on killing her, her grandfather and Shadow and that all of them had no qualms of doing it. Instead it's shown as a military personal desperately trying to stop another soldier from shooting her and then it showing her death more as an accident. With the bonus of oh the soldier didn't shoot her, he just shot an explosive tank which killed her, so technically he didn't directly shoot her.
Like no, she dies because she got shot from a soldier who was completely fine with shooting a child. It wasn't from an explosion, and it certainly wasn't from an accident. I thought that change was incredibly dumb.
I don't want to make this super long, but those are my general thoughts off the top of my head. Overall, I really like the movies, I feel like they mostly improve with each movie and I'm excited for the fourth movie (I just hope Rouge finally appears as well and that Amy gets a significant focus and isn't just hyped up to be pushed aside).
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hugsandchaos · 1 year ago
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Remember the episode “Two Good To Be True”? How there’s an alternate universe where Knuckles and Sonic are sort of switched, Dave’s a good, smart guy, and Eggman’s color is actually green? I decided to make some headcanons and ideas for it!
To be honest, this is partially for the 6 people who always like these kinds of posts of mine, which I appreciate. You guys are sweet!
•Sonic is dumb, sure, but he’s surprisingly knowledgeable about first aid, a bit of cooking, and the basics of wilderness survival. He mostly knows it because he looks after Tails.
•This Knuckles lives in a treehouse. I can’t explain why, I just think it’d be fitting.
•Both Sonic and Tails live in a house built inside a cave, and Sonic has a hammock inside and outside.
•Dave does his best to make sure Meh Burger’s food isn’t a health hazard and works on his inventions in his spare time.
•Dave’s mother disapproves of him being a hero instead of a villain and they’ve fought about it before. The fights are slowly getting more frequent. Dave is considering the possibility of moving out, and he’s told Knuckles and Amy about this. They both plan to support their friend every step of the way, whatever he chooses.
•Dave tries to insist that his friends don’t have to pay, but knowing how bad the pay sometimes is for him, the group will sometimes put money in the tip jar or on the table and run. Basically the good version of eating and leaving without paying. (Sonic: *whispering* Quick, Tails! While he’s not looking! / Tails: *puts a ten dollar bill in the tip jar* / Sonic: *picks him up and runs* Come on!) I like to think that they were both stifling some giggles, and when Sonic runs, Tails lets it out and it’s this really wholesome scene.
•Tails is obsessed with airplanes. He likes all of Dave’s inventions, but airplanes hold a special place in his heart. Sonic takes him to the library every week to either reread the books he’s already read about them or check out any new ones.
•Knuckles grew up on Bygone Island.
•Tails and Sonic both washed up on the shore one day. (It was a nightmare when they woke up because they both thought they were in danger and panicked.)
•Knuckles looks down on Sonic a little, and not in an ill-intended way?? He just makes comments sometimes. For example, what he said in the beginning of Two Good To Be True: “Now, if you’ll excuse me, the grownups have a job to do.”
•This Sonic simply has to keep at least some of his sass, okay? I really liked that part of his character.
•Tails sometimes figures out the flaws in Dave’s inventions. He’s crazy smart for his age, and Sonic’s proud of him for it.
•Sonic, like Original Boom Knuckles, does have his moments where he says something sensible and smart. Example— Knuckles: Wow, Sonic! I expected you to have more trouble with leg exercises. / Sonic: Knuckles, I run, hit, and kick at the speed of sound. If my legs weren’t strong, they’d be broken to the point where they might as well be amputated a long time ago. / Knuckles: …You make a fair point.
•Instead of Shadow, the “rival” in the story is Rouge. The reason is largely unknown, but my guess is because she keeps stealing stuff. (I wonder when they’ll notice the pattern of the things she’s stealing…)
•Yes, like in the episode, it seems pretty likely that Amy x Knuckles will be a thing. And honestly, I can see them being a pretty healthy relationship. Don’t get me wrong, Rouge and Knuckles being shipped in this AU would be interesting, but I think the main one is going to be Knuckles and Amy.
•Knuckles has Phasmophobia, and there’s definitely a Halloween episode or story of him trying to face this fear. Sonic dresses up as a ghost to try to help, but the costume wasn’t convincing enough to instill any true terror.
•Knuckles is unfortunately a “hit first, ask later” when someone’s causing trouble. Sonic is the opposite, he tries to reason and ask the trouble maker about their motives, usually by disguising it as a joke or jab at the enemy.
•As for Shadow… Well, I guess you guys would have to wait and see, huh?
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halfbreeddege · 7 months ago
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Sonic Movie 3 Spoiler Thoughts
Alrighty! I just got back from watching Sonic 3. I got my spoilery thoughts below the read more.
-Dammit! Tom and Maddie are the best. parents. ever!!!! That poor couple was practically going insane without their fuzzy kids around.
-Wonder how Sonic's uncles would react around him.
-Now that I think about it, did Sonic call Tom "dad" or "Donut Lord" even once (sweater doesn't count)?
-Oooh, Ozzy has some jealously going on. I thought they were getting along pretty well up to the Knuckles show.
-Walters actually gets a little redemption on this movie. He's not hostile towards Team Sonic and he was actually trying to protect Maria and Co. during the raid.
-I was still hoping it was a Wachowski that was involved in the raid 50 years ago.
-Who got the girl in the Telanovela?
-Gasp It's the goat milker!!!
-That 4th wall break by Eggman and Gerald
-I saw in the credits "Escape from the City" was in the soundtrack, but I don't remember hearing any of it.
-Eggman gets the 'damn' card, but not Shadow. Ok.
-I want to go to the Chao Garden now. I don't care if I'm an adult.
-Keanu, you did an amazing job as Shadow. Surprised Sonic didn't point out he sounds like the guy from Speed.
-I'll admit, I got a little teary eye watching the Shadow and Maria montage.
-Chaos Control was not mentioned ONCE!!
-No Olive Garden mention for once? XD -They included E.G.G.M.A.N!!! -They included "Talk about low budget flights, no food or movies… I'm outta here!" -Not enough Live and Learn. Seriously, I would have LOVED to hear longer bits of it, but they mostly kept playing the motif. During the space battle they did play a little more, but it's still not enough for my thirsty ass.
-I was wondering if they were going to include the "I have no idea" line, but not this time.
-Ritter gets like 3 main scenes and that's about it. She pretty much turned into a nothing burger. I was hoping Sam's (Sam Procrastinates) theory would had been right that she was actually Rouge but used a hologram to disguise as a human.
-Speaking of Rouge, it's really weird to see Shadow without her around.
-Sonic going apeshit when Shadow dropped the line "What was his name again? Tom?" Yeah, man. Get a punch in for me too.
-I watched Fadel's spoiler review, did not realize that was the Bio Lizard reference with the monster film Shadow and Maria watched.
-Where the hell was Jojo?! All this time I was predicting she would play a major part in Shadow realizing the errors of his way and she doesn't even get a mention. I would have thought maybe Randall at least would have gotten a bigger role since he's with G.U.N. but he's technically just a cameo.
-Agent Stone, my dude, he is a total badass in this movie and I felt so bad for him. Honestly, I never really thought he was going to be that big of a part of the franchise when I saw him in the first movie and thought he was going to be a one off character, but each passing movie, I'm starting to love the character more and more. Also, Lee Majdoub is a pretty cool guy and you can tell he really appreciates all the fan feedback.
-I'm not a fan of the Eggman x Stone ship, but oh God, I know the ones that do are having one hell of a field day right now.
-Soooo….how did Gerald live to be 110?????
-Not sure which death was more gruesome. Shooting range or bug zapped?
-"You're no Maria." Fuck you, Gerald!
-The dance scene with Gerald & Eggman was hilarious. Their final fight, was kinda meh…
-*sigh* yep, more fart jokes.
-Ok, so people predicting something bad happening to Tom were half right. Some were saying he was going to die, which I didn't think was going to happen. However, he did get a good whack from Shadow. I'm so happy he survived though.
-Wait, did Walters live or die?
-I predict next movie is going to touch time travelling since they're introducing Amy and Metal Sonic.
-Fadel was right, that last battle was like a DBZ fight.
-Shadow probably saved Eggman.
-I'm noticing each Sonic trailer, there's always that one scene that gets changed in the final product. The first movie trailer was any scene with Sonic in red shoes, the second movie was when Knuckles actually says "Does it look like I need your power?", this movie was the battle with Sonic & Shadow, they're actually in their super forms.
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zippy-reacts · 12 days ago
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Sonic X Liveblog: Season 1 Episode 5 (part 2)
Read Part 1 here!
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Forget what I said earlier, THIS is the even more iconic screenshot
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Even in universe they’re like… really? Again??
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Background music is interesting for this fight, it’s kinda like a spanish acoustic guitar? Maybe it’s supposed to be like a cowboy movie sort of thing
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Wow, five episodes to get Chris’ eyecatch. Let’s see, full name is Christopher, makes sense I guess. He’s 12, which surprises me, I kinda thought he was 10, especially since he sounds so young in Japanese. And his favourite thing is animals. Honestly, Sonic couldn’t have crash landed into a better backyard.
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Again, I am surprised we are only getting Tails’ eyecatch now! First off, he weighs 20kg. That’s just a little heavier than a typical water cooler jug, so not as light as a feather, but uh, quite impressive that Chris can carry him around like it’s nothing.
Bottom two bullet points are nothing new to Sonic fans; his special skill is flying with his tails and his hobby is tinkering with machines.
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Repeated animations everywhere
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Running vs climbing up a cliff is a very fun set piece though
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New quip every other second with this fella
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Sometimes it’s easy to forget just how strong Knuckles is
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Considering the amount of shit Sonic can destroy by spinning, it’s impressive Knuckles can withstand it.
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Sonic X isn’t the first show to depict Sonic’s fear of water; that honour goes to Underground I believe, but it’s always neat to see it whenever it pops up. Like, for a character as confident and cocky as Sonic, it’s good to see moments where he goes “oh shit”. It balances things, like how a pinch of salt makes sweet baked goods all the more sweeter
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Do you think the animator knew they’d be zooming in this close on Sonic and Knuckles for this shot?
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I mean, the obvious question is where was he keeping that? To be fair though, I could totally see Tails being the type of person who hides things in his shoes, or maybe in the wristband of his gloves?
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I gotta address the elephant in the room of how this show has a shitty habit of occasionally up-skirting Amy, which is like, pretty fucking weird considering she’s 12. I feel like some people might argue it’s difficult to avoid due to the design of her dress but idk I feel like it’s always an option to change the angle of the pose, or the position of the skirt, or use a dark shadow or something.
Also while not an issue exclusive to X, I’ve always felt the panties were the worst possible option, even more so than straight up no underwear since all the guy characters walk around with just shoes and gloves so we know design-wise there is nothing to hide. If you’re an artist and you want alternatives to the knickers, while not otherwise altering the design of the dress, here’s a few ideas off the top of my head:
Safety shorts
Old-timey bloomers
Incredibly frilly petticoat
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Okay so I know from my irl god that breathing in smoke sucks ass but really? That’s just like, a six foot drop and you can’t get down? What about Tails, can’t he just fly. Actually thinking about it, we haven’t seen Tails fly with his tails yet in this show have we?
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Bro, you just plopped them down on the other side of the lake. Sonic can cross continents with ease.
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Yeah, even the show knows how silly that was.
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Another one for the iconic folder. Honestly all the fan content I saw online for this ship when I was a kid is just like, ingrained in my DNA
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I think the entire episode’s animation budget went on this shot.
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Knuckles’ voice certainly has range, he’s soft spoken generally but as heard here he can definitely get shouty and loud when needed
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Eggman’s blasting off againnnnnnnnnnnnn
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snoot
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And Knuckles goes off on his own again.
It was a good episode, but I do have to admit Tails and Amy being made to seem incompetent by not being able to jump down from the robot was frustrating. I mean, I think I could make that jump and I am wholly un-athletic. Granted I’d probably break an ankle in the process but I’d still give it a shot. Plus again, Tails can fly; it was whole-ass bulletpoint in his eyecatch this episode.
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orangeoctopi7 · 7 months ago
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Just got back from Sonic 3!!
Y'know, I'm really more of a Mario guy... Except when it comes to the movies. I freaking LOVE the Sonic movies. The third installment is no exception.
It met my expectations, which considering how high they were, is really impressive!
First of all: YES! THEY ACTUALLY PLAYED LIVE AND LEARN IN THE MOVIE! I'm actually really impressed with how they utilized the theme throughout the score, while still saving the full version of the song for The Right Time.
I'm actually not usually a big Jim Carry fan, but I really enjoyed how he played off of himself as both Gerald and Eggman.
The plot this time is a lot tighter than the last two. There is still one random dance scene, but it's Jim Carrey improving so we'll let it slide.
Gosh Knuckles is still just the best, every scene and plot beat they give him is just perfect.
And MAN. The set up with Maria is just heartbreaking. They really layer on the cute shenanigans in the flashback to really get you attached. Meanwhile everyone in the audience is tensing up because even the people who aren't familiar with the games must have realized where this is going.
They may have changed a few things, like the base being under a mountain instead of in space, and instead of being shot down, Maria is killed in an explosion... Caused by a stray bullet because the agents were trying to shoot her, but Olive Garden Guy tried to push the gun away.
(man I was really hoping Olive Garden Guy was the one who killed her, that would have been hilarious. But I guess the filmmakers wanted to avoid the Harsher in Hindsight implications)
But anyway, they may have changed some things, but the core of Shadow and Maria's relationship is still there, and it still leaves that impact on Shadow that drives him to vengeance, but ultimately helps him decide to make the right choice.
Also they are really hammering in the Eggman/Stone shipping as much as they can without just coming out and saying it. When Tails is like "You're Robotnik's friend, right?" And Stone's just like. "... 🙃 Yeah. That's what our relationship is." I laughed so hard. And Eggman's goodbye. I don't know if heartbreaking is the right word for it, but I definitely felt emotions.
And for the post credits scenes, I want to start with the second because I have more to say about the first. We all knew Shadow isn't dead, I didn't need to sit in the theater for an extra 10 minutes for that.
But the first scene...
Amy is finally here! Yay! About time!
So yeah, I think it's safe to say that Sonic 4 is gonna be based on Sonic CD, which is gonna be interesting because obviously they're planning on putting Shadow in the mix. Should be interesting.
I saw a few people confused as to how Metal Sonic can be there if Eggman just died in the Eclipse Cannon explosion, but 1) If Shadow survived then it's not a stretch to assume Eggman survived too. And 2) Sonic CD is all about the time travel. It could be Eggman from the past or the future or even an alternative timeline if Jim Carrey stays retired this time.
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darkjanet2 · 2 years ago
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Sonic Adventure 2: Sonadow
Chapter 14: The Truth About Maria Robotnik
Inside the Space Colony ARK Sonic, Tails, and Amy roaming around the ship’s halls, they couldn’t seem to shake the feeling that something was off about their journey. It wasn’t as if they were forgetting something or someone important.
"This place is old and abandoned," said Amy.
"This place was shut down about 50 years ago because of a terrible accident," Tails said. "The first Bernoulli spherical space colony called ARK. When it was operational, it was filled with technology that could take us anywhere in the universe. I read a report that it was a perfect sphere."
"It sure seemed like it!" said Amy.
There's no time to waste before Eggman fires that weapon again," Sonic said. "We need to hurry! Let's destroy that cannon!"
"Right!" said Tails as he typed the keyboard on his computer. He typed several codes into an access terminal until the large computer screen showed one image of a massive gun mounted atop the ARK's main hull.
"Someone designed that weapon in a way that it is impervious to attacks from the outside. Its defense shields are super strong and will only be weakened once fired upon. The only way to defeat the shield is to hit it directly," said Tails as he opened the briefcase there was a topaz gem inside.
"Isn't that a Choas Emerald?" asked Amy.
"Yes, actually, it's a fake one that I created after researching the real Emerald. It has the same properties as the real emerald, but it has been enhanced with my ability to manipulate the energy from my Chaos Emeralds. So we're going to have to be very careful about this mission since Eggman will likely suspect something is amiss at the base. After all, that's where I first made this device," said Tails.
Tails gave the fake Emerald to Sonic, "Here. You go find the control room, and I'll find the power supply and destroy it, okay?"
Sonic nodded, "So the plan is, we'll switch the Choas Emeralds when the machine has stopped, yeah?"
Tails nodded as they both led the way leaving Amy behind.
"There they go again. They always have fun and leave me here all alone! I really never understand boys," she sighed as she headed toward the main hall.
*Meanwhile*
After surviving the spaceship crash, Knuckles glided through the ARK, then landed on the building and the crash sequence was completed. He sighed in relief.
"That was a close call. I guess I got separated from the others for a little while…"He then heard the sound of footsteps approaching him. He quickly turned around and faced the enemy. The figure that approached him was a white bat that wore a pink chest plate shaped like a heart, black leather pants, white gloves with pink tips, and white boots with pink hearts on the toes. She wore blue shadows with long lashes and pink lipstick.
"Well, look who finally joined the party," said Rouge, "I was starting to wonder when you'd show up."
"You again," said Knuckles annoyed.
Rouge smiled, "Come on now, don't be such a sourpuss. After all, isn't it your fault we ended up in trouble?" she asked, holding up the shards of Master Emerald. "With these, I have collected the shards of Emeralds." Knuckles didn't say anything, so Rouge continued. "So what do you say? Want some?"
"Fine, if it's what you want," Knuckles replied. "But I won't give you what I'm holding unless you give the shards to me, bat girl."
Rouge smirked, "Oh, you wish!"
She charged at the echidna. He swiftly sidestepped her attack and used a kick to knock her onto her back. He held out his hand as he bent down towards her, but she quickly grabbed it and flipped herself over. She ran straight at the echidna. Knuckles stood up and kicked her across the floor. Then he caught her as she rolled to a stop next to him. As she got up, she tried to punch him in the face, but Knuckles blocked. He lifted her up by the neck and tossed her aside. He jumped high into the air and tried to punch her down, but she dodged by sticking her foot to the floor. She attempted to throw a punch, but Knuckles blocked that too. They continued to dodge each other's attempts to attack each other. At last, Rouge managed to catch Knuckles in an overhead uppercut. Knuckles crashed right into the wall. He growled.
*Meanwhile*
Amy walked through the corridor, scanning every nook and cranny. She sighed, "I still can't believe this Sonic left me here. Why would he just abandon me?!" Amy muttered angrily as she continued forward.
Suddenly, she noticed the secret laboratory door in front of her. She opened the door and entered the lab, it was a high-tech lab. A workbench covered almost the entire length of the left side wall. An assortment of scientific tools and machinery littered the workspace. Amy looked around the room and found an array of monitors on various parts of the walls. There were screens showing the interior structure of the ARK.
"Wow, that's really neat!" Amy said. She approached the computer desk and stared at the large monitor screen as it displayed the exterior structure of the ship. She tapped the keyboard and the screen changed colors as a 3D hologram appeared. The image showed the ARK exterior and its inner structure. A series of lines connected the two ships. Each line terminated at the same point. One end of a line was connected with the mainframe, which was attached to the control panel. There was a password box on the screen.
"I gotta know what the password is, or else this'll never work!" said Amy aloud. She began searching around the desk until she found a piece of paper in the notebook. The password was Maria.
Amy raised her eyebrow, "Maria? That's a pretty common name, but who named the kid, anyway? Oh well. I have better things to think about anyway." She began typing the password into the computer system. The screen had unlocked and there was a wallpaper of Prof. Gerald Robotnik, Shadow, and a human girl named Maria.
"Who is this girl? Is her name Maria in the password?" wondered Amy as she examined the picture closer.
"She looks pretty. I wonder what happened to Maria 50 years ago?" thought Amy as she went to search through the information on Maria. Her eyes found the DVD under the paper on the desk. She then proceeded to the DVD into the optical disc drive. The video appeared on the screen and she began to watch.
Gerald was on the video footage as it played. The man was standing in front of an empty table that looked like it hadn't been used in a while.
"I'm Professor Gerald Robotnik, the greatest scientist ever to grace the earth," said the professor. He turned around and looked directly at the camera. "And this project that will change the world, is ready to begin. Now all that is left to do is gather the necessary data to complete our project, and we shall finally reach the ultimate form of reality!"
"I have created the Space Colony ARK. This vessel will contain the most advanced spacecraft technology available in the known cosmos. From the moment it leaves Earth's atmosphere, the crew will become the masters of the universe. The ARK is capable of traveling faster than light. In fact, the speed of light may even exceed light speed. We are capable of crossing the void without fear."
Just then the lab door slid open, and Amy gasped and turned to who it was. It was Tails who entered the lab, she sighed in relief.
"You scared the heck out of me, Tails," said Amy.
"Sorry. What did you find?" asked Tails.
"I found a video diary of Prof. Gerald Robotnik talking about how he created the ARK 50 years ago. And there was a story about a girl named Maria," said Amy.
"Maria?" asked Tails.
"Yeah, and you might want to watch it," she resumed the video.
Professor Gerald was speaking in front of the camera, "That day, my granddaughter Maria was diagnosed with NIDS. It is commonly known as Neuro-Immune Deficiency Syndrome. She has been battling the disease for months. But it seems that she has finally conquered the illness and is on her way to recovery. However, there is no doubt that the reason why I've developed the serum that can reverse these conditions is due to the research done by myself. Unfortunately, there is no cure for the disease. I only hope that one day, I can create Project Shadow as her treatment for her condition. Until then, she will need constant supervision over her health, and hopefully, soon she will be able to recover."
"So he created Shadow as her treatment? That doesn't make sense," said Amy.
"How does the NIDS help?" asked Tails.
"I don't know," she shrugged.
In the next part of the video, Prof. Gerald Robotnik was taken to Prison Island and was chained up in a chair, and there was a scribbling calculation on the wall. Amy and Tails gasped in horror.
"This is insane! How you could do something like that?!" yelled Prof. Gereald enraged. "Don't you realize what kind of destruction you're causing!?"
"Of course not. We know you created a dangerous weapon that threatens to wipe out humanity," replied Leader G.U.N. army. "We are going to make you pay for your crimes against mankind. We must destroy it."
"Destroy it?! You must be out of your mind! I am a scientist! Not a killer!" said the professor as he struggled against the chains holding him prisoner.
"What is the difference between a killer and a scientist?!" asked the G.U.N army, "Your kind has always been obsessed with science, with science alone."
"There is nothing wrong with being interested in science! You killed my granddaughter without mercy!" cried the professor.
Amy and Tails gasped in shock. "They killed his granddaughter?" whispered Tails.
"That's so cruel. She was just a kid!" Amy cried in protest.
"I plan to give you a taste of revenge. Once all seven Chaos Emeralds are collected, the colony will destroy the planet! All of you ungrateful humans, who took everything away from me will feel loss and despair!" yelled Gerald in rage on the screen.
"Is there anything else you want to say?" asked the leader.
Gerald hung his head down and spoke quietly, "No..."
The soldier cocked his rifle, "Ready!"
A gunshot rang out and Gerald fell to the ground with a bullet protruding through his head, causing Amy to cover her mouth while Tails shut his eyes tight. The screen went static after a few moments and the screen went black.
Amy slowly laid her hands down from her mouth. "I can't believe they did that... he was executed," she stated sadly as tears formed in her eyes.
"It was horrible...." said Tails softly.
"Should we tell Sonic about this?" asked Amy.
"I'm not sure, but--"
Eggman barged into the room shouting, "WHAT THE HELL DO YOU TWO THINK YOU'RE DOING IN HERE?!" he shouted causing Amy and Tails to scream. He stopped in his tracks and said, "What are you kids doing in here?"
*Meanwhile at the Control Room*
Sonic found the Choas Emeralds on the Eclipse Canon. He took out the fake Emerald and turned on the walkie-talkie.
"Tails, I found the Control Room and Choas Emeralds. Should I put the fake emerald on this now?" Sonic asked yet there was no reply.
"Tails, are you there?" asked Sonic worriedly.
'What's he doing right now?" thought Sonic.
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scruffyplayssonic · 2 years ago
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Are the ArchieSonic comics actually an 80's/90's syndicated cartoon? Episode 48: Benign alien visitors 
Welcome back to my look at the ArchieSonic comic series, and how it shared a lot of the same story tropes as a typical ‘80s or ‘90s syndicated cartoon! My last two updates focused on the evil aliens who gave Sonic (and Shadow) grief, but now it’s time to turn our attention to the nicer ones.
Episode 48: Benign alien visitors 
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Well first of all let’s get the obvious ones out of the way. The Wisps had limited appearances in the ArchieSonic comics, unlike in IDWSonic where they’ve shown up quite frequently. Their first appearance in the comics was in ArchieSonic #219, which featured an adaptation of the opening of Sonic Colours. This story was classified as, “Another Time, Another Place,” meaning it wasn’t canon to the ongoing storyline of the comic. ArchieSonic did this from time to time when new Sonic games came out, essentially just making them glorified 5 page advertisements. It wasn’t as satisfying as getting a full adaptation like what was done with Sonic Adventure, but at least this way it didn’t completely disrupt the ongoing plot in the comics. Let us not forget that at the time they had to squeeze in the Sonic Adventure 2 adaptation that Knuckles was green and Tails was a doppleganger. 
…actually, in hindsight? Having those storylines interrupted for six months would have been quite welcome. 😛
Aside from the Dark Arms hybrids that Eclipse created, the Wisps didn’t really show up following the reboot of the comic either. However, Tails did mention that the events of Sonic Colours had already happened in the new timeline and that Silver had been involved, suggesting that it may have followed the DS version of the game that included appearances from many of Sonic’s friends.
But do the Wisps really count as benign alien visitors, considering that Dr. Eggman dragged them kicking and screaming into orbit around Sonic’s homeworld? Possibly not. So let’s at long last talk about an alien race who actually showed up of their own free will: the Bem.
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The first appearance of the Bem was in Sonic #118, not long after the nuking of Robotropolis by Station Square. Eggman and Snively, having made several attempts in previous issues to download themselves into new robotic bodies only to be foiled by Sonic, finally succeeded only to be confronted by the Freedom Fighters again. After confirming that Eggman was no longer able to roboticise people by touching them, Sonic and Tails immediately leapt into battle. But the four of them were rudely interrupted as an alien race called the Bem teleported them aboard their ship and into a prison pod.
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The Bem wanted to run an experiment to see if organic or robotic beings were superior, so to test this they roboticised Sonic and Tails and de-roboticised Eggman and Snively. Setting the two teams against each other, the Bem announced that the winning team of this duel would be reverted to their previous state, while the losing team would remain stuck as what the Bem had just changed them to. Setting the four of them loose in a holographically projected battlefield, the Bem watched their experiment play out.
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It was over pretty quickly, which is one of the things I hated the most about the stories from this era of the comics. They always felt so rushed because a chunk of the book was being taken up by stupid Ken Penders’ stupid green Knuckles story. But anyway, the Bem kept their word and returned the four of them to Mobius, all of them now flesh and blood again, and with Eggman ranting about how this just proved that robotic life was superior.
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Pin in that.
Not long after that in Sonic #123, a strange phenomenon occurred across the entire planet.
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All the people who had been roboticised, whether they’d had their free wills restored or were still mindless drones serving Eggman, disappeared without a trace. This included Antoine’s father, Mina’s mother, and Sonic’s entire family - his parents, Uncle Chuck, and pet dog Muttski.
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But several weeks later they all started reappearing again, now deroboticised and with no memory of how they’d been changed back to normal. The one exception was Sonic’s father Jules, who was eventually returned but still as a robot.
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Sonic thought that this must have been a cruel prank by Eggman, but Eggman denied having anything to do with the mass deroboticisation phenomenon, leaving Sonic and his family to wonder who was really behind it. I mean, surely it couldn’t have been that group of weirdos that had abducted Sonic recently and proved themselves able to roboticise and deroboticise people almost effortlessly, right? Right?!
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Well if readers at the time didn’t already suspect that the Bem were involved, the confirmation that their ship was in orbit around Mobius in the very next issue should have told them everything they needed to know. This was when the Xorda showed up to raze the planet, and the Bem dropped off Super Shadow to defend them while they escaped.
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…honestly, I think Shadow needs to get slapped in the face like this occasionally to keep him humble. 
The Bem’s involvement in the mass deroboticisation of Mobius was finally confirmed in Sonic #129, when Sonic arrived on the planet Argentium as the final stop on his Tossed in Space tour. Having been told that the key to his getting back home was on this planet, Sonic tried to land but was told he was only permitted to visit if he was attending the trial of Ceneca-9009.
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Sonic decided to play things straight and headed for the courthouse, where it turned out the trial (or if you prefer, exposition dump) taking place had a surprising amount of relevance to him. 
Thousands of years ago Ceneca-9009 had been part of a scientific exploration crew that discovered Biotex, a planet of robotic beings, and had petitioned the high council to allow them to create a machine that would transform the robots into organic creatures. They were given permission to do so, but they hadn’t realised that the species in question had become robots as an evolutionary defense mechanism to protect them from a toxic environment. So when the Bem deroboticised the Biotexans they all immediately died, and the Bem outlawed deroboticising technology from that day forward to prevent another disaster like that from happening. 
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Thousands of years later Ceneca-9009’s ship would discover Mobius and observe the beginning of Robotnik’s coup of the Acorn Kingdom, including the roboticisation of Tails’ father, General Amadeus Prower. When his wife Rosemary was also captured, Ceneca-9009 decided to intervene and teleported both Rosemary and Amadeus onto her ship, also deroboticising Amadeus. Having witnessed the devastation that Robotnik was wreaking on Mobius, Ceneca-9009 took the Prowers back to her homeworld of Argentium and once again went before the High Council, requesting permission to deroboticise all of Robotnik’s victims. However this time her request was denied, and she was thrown in prison for using the forbidden deroboticisation technology. Sonic was outraged at this revelation and called the court out on it, alerting the Prowers, who had also been witnessing the trial, to his unexpected presence on the planet.
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But their reunion had to be delayed so that the trial could continue.
Travel to Mobius had been forbidden following Ceneca-9009’s imprisonment, and so the Prowers had been unable to return home. They were however offered asylum on Argentium. Twelve years later Ceneca-9009 had been released from prison after serving her sentence, and she had once again asked the council for permission to deroboticise the victims of Robotnik’s takeover of Mobius. As she had actually asked permission this time the council were more open to her request, but wanted to ensure another disaster like what had happened to Biotex wouldn’t happen again. Unfortunately their idea of doing the best thing for the planet was to arrange an experimental duel to see if robots would overpower organics or vice versa, hence what happened to Sonic, Tails, Eggman and Snively in issue #118. The end result of this experiment had been the council agreeing with Eggman’s complaint that robotic life had been proven superior, and so they had ordered Ceneca-9009 to roboticise the entire population immediately.
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Ceneca-9009 had gone against their wishes though and instead deroboticised everyone (with one rather glaring exception), as shown in issue #123. 
Having gone over all the facts, the council found Ceneca-9009 guilty and sentenced her to be executed at dawn the following day. Sonic refused to accept this and planned to break Ceneca-9009 out of prison, but found himself without a means of escape when his spaceship was ordered to be dismantled due to the ongoing war between Mobius and the Xorda, which the Bem wanted no part in.
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However the head magistrate also disagreed with Ceneca-9009’s sentence and approached Sonic with an offer to provide another spacecraft for him and the Prowers to escape in with Ceneca-9009, if he could bust her out of prison. Sonic easily accomplished this task, but unfortunately on such short notice the only ship that the magistrate had been able to obtain was so small that only one person could fit in it.
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Considering that Ceneca-9009 was marked for death Sonic told her she should be the one to take the ship, but she insisted that one of them should take it instead, rationalising that as long as her pursuers thought she was onboard the escaping ship that they would not look for her on Argentium. Sonic also offered the ship to the Prowers, but they refused to leave each other and sent Sonic on his way with a gift for their son. 
When Sonic finally crashed back down on Mobius, the first thing he did was…
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okay, well the first thing he actually did was get pulled back into the fight against Eggman immediately. Seriously, he’d touched down for maybe ten seconds when he spotted trouble and raced to the rescue. But after he’d stopped Eggman from launching a pair of nuclear warheads and gotten settled back at home...
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...and come to terms with the fact that he could now understand canine speech patterns, Sonic was finally able to answer a question that had been hounding his family for a year.
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After that, he linked back up with Tails to tell him some news that would shock him to his core:
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Tails wouldn’t be able to do anything with this information for awhile, but eventually his uncle Merlin helped him get to Argentium to rescue his parents.
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Just in the nick of time too, because they probably wouldn’t have lasted much longer with the Black Arms and the Xorda waging war in the skies above.
The Bem did not appear in the comics again after that, but their impact was felt for a long time afterwards. When Ceneca-9009 had deroboticised all the victims of the roboticiser, she had also been able to nullify roboticiser technology across the entire planet. Eggman could no longer turn anyone into robots after that, and he had to make do with equipping his living forces with cybernetic body parts instead, a process he called “Legionising,” in honour of the Dark Legion, who were among the first of his forces to undergo this process. However he was eventually able to at least partially work around that when he got his hands on a Chaos Emerald and used it to rewrite reality with the Genesis Wave.
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Those who had been deroboticised personally by the Bem, such as Sonic and even Eggman himself, were still immune to the effects of the roboticiser. Everyone else though…
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Grim. 
So here’s a thought. If Eggman created the Genesis Wave in response to his robotic slaves being permanently transformed back to normal, then that means that everything that happened afterwards, such as Sally’s roboticisation, the disbanding of the Freedom Fighters, the second Genesis Wave rewriting reality again (creating the reboot era of the comic), and the shattering of the planet - that can all be traced back to Ceneca-9009’s actions in the back-up story of a single issue. Who could have possibly known that the effects of that single story would still be felt when the comic ended, over 165 issues later?
That’s all from me for today. Were there any other benign alien races that visited Sonic’s homeworld in the Archie comics that I missed? Be sure to let me know in the comments! Next time will be another instance where I struggle to come up with good examples from ArchieSonic: “Hero becomes blind. Magoo jokes aplenty. Ableism ages episode horribly.” How will I tackle this head-scratcher? Tune in next time to find out!
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squeiky · 1 year ago
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This is going to get long. Sorry Op, but sometimes a post just happens to conincide whislt my writing/anlysis brain is on and well.. this happens:
I know this is sonadow posting but ignoring the shipping aspect- this actually encapulates a constant trait of Shadow the Hedgehog (and team dark as well) in which he often lacks the desire or need to constantly SAY or act (in the socially obvious sense atleast) as if he cares or is concerned about you (most people will consider his behavior "tsundere"-like in the fact that he openly has tendencies to deny any allegations of caring for someone, especially that of Sonic).
However,
whats intresting to is that not only does Sonic seem aware of this factoid (that others, aside from team dark memebers as they all dervive from similar ways of expression, dont seem to actievly be aware of), but openly engages with it in a fun, lighthearted and teasing way. Though Sonic is known for his mockery and clowning, when its particularly aimed at Shadow, it always feels like a confirmation rather than a sign of "just messin with him" (though of course it can always be the case).
Its not the best example but- lets say sonic is in need of help and Shadow is on a mission and on the way he decides has to save him. So, on the outside he appears more focused on external things, simply "doing this cause buissness is buissness" or he may be annoyed and scold Sonic for being too reckless and forcing him to have to save him on a mission.
Sonic, brushes it off and is joking about the situation- showing the more braver and stronger front of his persona. This however, may cause Shadow to get angry or annoyed as the light banter contrasts with the emergency.
So basically, the whole thinh could be chalked up to "Shadow get annoyed at Sonic for being dumb and Sonic teases Shadow cause he likes to mess with people" and nothing more.
But then if you examined it a bit more, it could be something more akin to "Shadow is very worried and concerned with Sonic being in danger and actively dislikes it when he is put in troubling situations, he has doesnt express this in a "oh my gosh are you okay🥺?!" So intead he resorts to simple correction of action via light "scolding" or simply telling him not to do it again. (In colors DS, when shadow was worried about his saftey, its simply a "good, your back." Or something similar. Again. Its always implied with him and never stated upfront.) Whilst Sonic, whom understands that hes worried, but requires some amount of vocalized validation to this fact, prys it out of him via the teasing, through the light banter of "why? you worried😏? ", "i didnt know you were such a good hugger" or something like that.
I think this attitude is what makes him feel safer around the people he is with, as if they are able to handle the mocking tone of Sonics more present persona, it would be safe to say that he can trust them enough to feel comfortable lets say.. be carried in someones arms in the middle of space while hes practically dying, because if they can handle the "annoying" part of him and still care about him deeply, then thats a keeper.
I think theres a trust and validation in that aspect.
(I think this especially also plays into characters like team dark, or even knuckles and Blaze. I think hes much softer on characters like Amy and Tails.)
Especially when you realise that Sonic was so pissed off at shadow he actively antagonized and called him a "faker" (yeah thats Sonic's thing. He started that.) And somehow, not only was Shadow about to play off of that in a fun way, he used it to make himself look "better" than Sonic and might actually be one of the first characters in game (that i know of) other than eggman to actually have seriously gotten on his nerves (to the point he was pacing around in jail all like pissed off), which is hilarious.
But overall, it just shows that Shadow can effectively take the worst of Sonic and send it back in a fun way (which grabs at Sonic's addrenline junkie fun-time addicted brain). If anything, once Shadow understands that Sonic literally is "what you see is what you get" he accepts that.
I think there thats where that respect comes from. In both parties as Shadow respects Sonics autheticty and expression, and in i think he may even find an appreciation for it.
Furthermore, you also can see how Sonic is capable of reading people quite well, and is able to understand other peoples thought proccess (which makes him good at making quick jabs that piss them off).
So when swapping the tables and haing Shadow in danger and Sonic the savior, the two probably would function the same way as i discussed prior- except sonic is much more capable of expressing the easy-to-pick up on "oh my gosh are you okay🥺?!" Type stuff. He might even literally say "ohmygosh r u okay 🥺?!" If hes THAT worried.. So Shadow never needs to "pry" anything out of him. In this light, Shadow is well aware thay Sonic cares about him (hes just annoying about it). Which makes it so that what Shadows gains from Sonic is less of that "validation & trust/comfort" and more of.. acceptance and understanding.
Because Shadow is often a character that in-universe is either mythologized, demonized or inhumanized ( inhedgehogized???) But when introduced to Sonic (who remind you is the FIRST character to seriously call Shadow a "heroic hedgehog" or something akin to that)
He becomes well. "shadow the hedgehog" not "Shadow the sciene project" or "Shadow the Ultimate lifeform" or "Shadow the dangerous entity" or what not. Theres a sense of "i take you as you are" type of way that Sonic gives to him. And with that he accepts whatever form Shadoe comes to him with. Never forcing anything on or away from him (to the point where Shadow straight up gives him his own "title" which again, is something SO intergral to who he is that the fact Shadow even did that just shows how much importance Sonic reprenst in his life. It took one person to show him that authenticty and acceptance thats hes
been craving ever since well.. probably maria). I think thats where that particular respect comes from and in some ways? Especially during the very last parts of SA2 where Shadow yells out to him the "i think your the ultimate lifeform!" To sonic and in turn when Shadow "dies", Sonic says hes "Shadow. Shadow the hedgehog" theres a tradeoff there.
The fact of the matter is, i think its more than just "oh look at this shadow says he isnt going to save him but then actually does" because 1. Two difrenet contexts (obviously) but 2. I dont think its even unrealistic for shadow to say he "wont save him" but then actually does.
He cares about Sonic too much to actually let shitty things happen, but wont actively coddle him like team sonic would. If anything, i personally think its more of I "i wont save you, so dont do something stupid, because then thats your fault and im not responsible for cleaning up after you." And less of a "i wont save you, I would let you get hurt/injured and die" type ordeal?
Idk, what do you, dear reader, have to say about this?
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findyourflame · 2 years ago
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okay nobody cares about my opinions specifically but im going to go into them anyways. warning, im going to critique Sonic Prime bc its a piece of media by a huge company. this is going to be a biiiiig post too, under the cut.
TL;DR: Sonic Prime was a disappointing experience, but not the worst. It was enjoyable enough, mostly the first two seasons, rather than the last one. I have many thoughts and feelings on the characterization of the gang, some good, some bad, but overall it was a middling experience, just like most Sonic media is. and the kicker, it was not a sonadow show, I'm sorry sonadow shippers but you're just starved for Sonic and Shadow interacting, it's okay to ship them but some of the things y'all are saying is just silly.
okay now for the real post
For the sake of understanding, I will call each 'season' a season, even tho we all know that Netflix fucked with those episodes and when they were released even though some of them should have been bundled together.
So season one? I looooved it. Setting up the premise, the comedy, the flashy graphics and camera work, it was very fun! Overall, the characters and plot lines of each shatterspace were great....but.
Big and Rouge were shafted extremely hard. Both were given very little variety in their alternate versions archetypes. Big just felt like they went 'he's big and dumb and scared.' And with Rouge it felt like all of them had to be mature and in control and pretty. Boscage Rouge was a little teensy bit feral but overall still more similar to the others rather than different. Big just felt very...inconsequential? Which sucks! I adore Big! But in Prime he just wasn't given enough justice, and what was up with No Place Big just?? Turning British??? What was up with that. Never addressed again, purely existed for comedic value to try and keep your attention during over an hour of fighting the same robots.
Season two was pretty fun, applying more stakes by the urge to collect the prism shards, hinting that with them all back together, the rest of the shatterverses may cease to exist. The beginning conflict of interests and miscommunication between Sonic and Tails (which I'm going to talk about more later)
My main gripe with S2 was that Prismatic Sonic wasn't...interesting enough design wise. Giving a guy some chromatic aberration is always going to make my eyes go wide, but just airbrushing pink on and making his eyes pink doesn't make me think he's Prismatic. Especially considering the lore we know that Sonic has the remaining Prism energy? Like he should be more fucked up looking. More gems, more sparkle. What happened to the days of Sonic getting new insane looking forms just for funsies, which happened even back during the classic era because of Hyper Sonic. Prismatic Sonic deserved to look cooler even if it was a fight against an extremely silly looking Eggman, it would have felt right for Sonic the Hedgehog. Yes this gripe got a lot of explanation I'm an artist I'm not sorry
Season three. Good lord where do I begin. I guess with the things I liked like how I did the others. Once again most of the characters were on point, I liked seeing a reality where Tails is a villain (I know Nine isn't Tails, but lbr it's an exploration on what if Tails was alone, what if he had nobody, and the world was just awful). I liked the very ending sequence where Sonic changes his actions, even if it's in a sentimental manner, so that he avoids breaking the crystal again, he avoids restarting the whole process. I liked Sonic and Shadow's interactions through the entire show, it's nice to see them interacting again after so long of just...not, due to Sega ignoring anyone who wasn't Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, and Eggman.
The dislikes however are very egregious. The pacing was horrendous, why was there over an hour of near constant fighting with cycles of Sonic just stopping petty arguments between the Chaos Council and the shatterverse counterparts. The visuals became less flashy and interesting, it definitely looked rushed and it really shouldn't have been for something overseen by Sega. That sprite sequence was literally the most affronting thing to my eyes as a former Sonic sprite artist, they didn't even try to make it make sense to anything and again, the quality was horrible for something overseen by Sega. The layoffs, the strikes, the direction Netflix has been taking, the direction Man of Action has been taking, it was very clear that the final season was rushed and just shoveled out to us.
Overall, I was disappointed with how they finished off Sonic Prime.
Now onto something very specific about Sonic Prime that I wanna talk about: The characterization of Sonic in specific in this show.
For the most part, he's played pretty well, the voice acting is phenomenal, he's animated with so much expression, he's goofy, he's casual, he's affectionate which is something I believe is an inherent trait of Sonic based on many things in past media...and he's manipulative.
Let me explain what I mean by that
Sonic has always had a very good way of using words to sway people's thoughts and feelings. He's very good at getting under his enemy's skin, at making them pause, at making opportunities to strike as a result or to shift the fight into them just...not fighting anymore. I like this aspect of Sonic's personality because it's an extremely interesting thing to have a heroic character be able to do, and helps with banter, with teaching people.
Because he's a hero, this way of using his words isn't best described as manipulative, because of the connotations of that word being very negative. An exploration of Sonic where he's not a hero, not even an antihero, would be very interesting because of this skill of his.
Sonic Prime doesn't make Sonic evil. But he's certainly not a hero. He's very wishy washy, very stand offish....which is very unlike Sonic compared to most iterations of him where he will fight someone physically even if he doesn't want to, simply because he knows it will at the very least stop them from doing something more dangerous. The worst part of this wishy washy attitude from Prime Sonic is with regards to Nine in specific.
Now I mention the manipulative tactics Sonic uses in other media because he uses them with Nine too. To the point of consistently talking to Nine as if he is Tails, ignoring that Nine is his own person, that he's a real person, and it hurts Sonic to hear Nine defy him because of how much of an individual he is and how he's NOT Tails. He chased the kid into his home, which he broke into, yelled at him, got him arrested by the Chaos Council, and over and over ignored what Nine wanted in favor of what Sonic himself wants. And then when faced with a power hungry Nine he stood back and fought robots instead of rushing up there, with his super sonic speed, to stop the kid. He didn't let Shadow do anything either. Renegade Knuckles punching Nine in the face literally was the best thing that happened on that damn tower bc it showed that at least SOMEONE was willing to try to put a stop to this by any means necessary.
Nine was allowed to keep pushing the prism over and over, further breaking realities, and what did Sonic do?
Continue to try to reason with him.
Just spin dash the fox instead of gaslighting him, Sonic.
Someone probably drew the "I think we're going to have to kill this guy" meme with Sonic and Shadow but it's actually painful how real that shitpost is for the show, and how annoying it is that it's what the show is.
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why are fans apparently not allowed to age up characters at all under any circumstance when official sources have done so themselves without hardly altering the appearance of the characters
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the-sprog · 1 year ago
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EPISODE 2
-why is he just destroying rocls whats happening- OH question answered. he found a chaos emerald and now??? he can teleport??? and now that things have exploded and sonic changed universe he can locate him or can he just always do that?
-also im unclear what shadow's origins are
-oh there you ho explaination.
-FUCK YEAH ROLLER SKATES
-OH HE SAW THE FUTURE or something
-also no nvm he did not explain shadow. he was just like "he's my rival and a buzzkill" I KNEW THAT ALREADY!
-"I know we're fighting again. I'll calm him down" dude. just listen to him? there is no beef? you jsut assumed that if shadow wanted something it was to beat you up.
-i mean he did punch you but thats besides the point.
-"egg is perfect" me when i make a real runny sunny side up
-allriggghttt rebels moment. the're the purple one, don't know her name but know her face.
-SHE'S NOT A CAT?
-also the palm trees awakening them like sleeper agents what. oh they were there before eggman destroyed everything? so i guess what changed is that sonic was just never there to stop him or to unite their friendgroup
-"blue guy" the robot said his name Rouge!
-soundtrack goes hard though
-stresstest compilationa aside, rouge and knuckles to the rescue alright!
-IT'S A TOUPEE?? should've guessed.
-I really want to know how amy got evil. why is she siding with eggman?
-... woah. there's no way that didn't kill people. also ahah i love knuckles. HELL YEAH CIVILIAN UPRISING.
-I get really weirded out everytime they mention it's NYC because it means that the forest with palm trees and mountains Sonic usually lives in is also technically NYC.
-"we gotta join the resistance" hell yeah.
-yeah they gotta explain the difference between paradox and chaos prism. and also now im wondering why shadow is not here- IS SHADOW THE BATTERY? no ok they said it's a crystal. That's the third name for one of those things they've said I don't like it.
-good last words joke lol
-yeah tails looks naked every time i see him.
-the little ear twitch oh lord im weak
-banger entrance
-"eggforcers" lol
-it's like he has low blood sugar. is that what the rings do for him?
-I'm confused on what Nine is tryign to do hacking that. also cool shit with the tails.
-has no one ever seen a edghog? because they identify all the others as the correct animal first try except him... and Amy. What IS amy??
-OH WOW ep 1 was like 50 minutes and this one barely 30??? that felt.. really short. Sonic is about the get fucking murked and then ending credits??? that was weird.
I'll do EPISODE 3 here.
-ok no NOW it's a prism again. also I saw how many episodes there are here and uuuuh I might have overshor my ability to liveblog things.
-back to to the others' pov I see. I love Amy with her hammer. Rose felt weird fighring with her fists.
-"hate to hit and run" i love you you unsufferable idiot.
-that rabbit thing keeps showing up and im starting to think he's important.
-OOOH that's what Nine was doing.
-oh the fact she can just be controlled... is she even Amy anymore? ship of theseus kinda sitaution.
-The laser still going around im gonna cry thats so funny
-INTERNATIONAL?
-KNUCKS?
-Him smiling while Rose says she kills people who don't comply
-I love that Nine started running BEFORE telling them where to go.
-Is sonic finally putting 2 and 2 together? Mayhaps.
-I'm with you Sonic. It IS actually cool.
-I really like the fight scenes they look cool.
-that highfive jsut changed nine's entire life
Sonic: *highfives him*
Nine: "I no longer wanna kill myself"
-ALL OF THEM CAN DO THAT??? THE SPINNY THIGN???
-Dr Deep is a fucking millenial weeb isn't he?
-are... are nine's physical tails thinner than Tails'?
-I love speedster slowmo scenes. This one lacks cool music but it makes up for that with the solemnity of it.
-Oh baby's back. He's gonna regret asking for the old man isn't he?
-they're not doing the infinity symbol over his legs anymore :(
-these sequences really do look like videogame levels. I did no research so it might just be an adaptation of a specific sonic game.
-ok Big and Froggy. Is he realizing?? finally? is he?
-oh hey the infinity is back
-"I gotta help my friends" eh they can handle themselves. and if you have that thing you can rewrite reality so
-oh... it's not the right prism... was it broken? is that what happened? noooo did he end up in a world where he never existed? jsut on accident? how would he have CREATED it? why would breaking the prism do this? are they all over this universe or are there more? and why does sonic have the same energy signature?
-DUDE HURRY UP
-NINE I TRISTED YOU
I'm watching Sonic prime because you can't give me multiverse and unlikely allies and think I won't watch it.
But this is the first piece of Sonic media I've ever consumed (sonic underground doesn't count cause I remember nothing of it, and neither do the films) so. Live blog lmao.
-"Shadow is... Complicated. More on that later" can't wait bro
-Ok rouge the bat is a good guy? I thought she was vaguely anti hero ish.
-what the fuck is a paradox emerald. I stopped at chaos emeralds. What's the difference? How are they created? This one was just... In a cave???
-"sonic boom of a headache" ah ah I see what you did there.
-whats with the knuckles slander!!!
-THATS NEW YORK??????
-so they're not allowed to talk to other people I guess?
-why are they making it seem like it's his shoes that make him fast????
-are rings currency? I was under the impression they were currency. Why is he looking for cash rn
-fickeis???
-he knows what smog is. How does he know what smog is. He lives in a forest.
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Does he live in a forest? It's like... All green.
OH ITS WHAT EGGMAN WANTED! A WORLD RESEMBLING HIM AND NOT SONIC.
-What is the prism shatter??? Do they mean the paradox emerald? So sure they called it the paradox emerald and not the paradox prism.
-WHATS WITH THE TAILS SLANDER!!!
-Yes I know he insulted sonic as well but I think sonic deserved it in that moment.
-ok shadow was just. There. Dudes not even helping. You live here you asshole! Do your part!
-"Tails never gets upset" that's unhealthy!
-is 1992 the year the first sonic game came out? Something tells me that's the year Sonic's first game came out.
-...what's the difference between a trap and a trick?
-why Rouge! The only thing I know is that you're a cat!
-WHY ARE THEY CALLINF IT A PARADOX PRISM NOW?
-the fact the place IS called "the loop-de-loop" and it's not just what Sonic calls it is. Priceless.
-ngl I thought sonic was gonna be more... Sassy? Clever? WITTY! but no. He's a lot more like how I imagined Knuckles to be. Knuckles is my favorite btw. I know nothing of him other than he's vaguely mean and dumb. But not like Shadow's angsty edgy mean. More like a jock kinda mean.
-also no one explained why it's called the paradox prism. Or why Rouge knows what it is/that that's what Eggman was looking for.
-oh there you go end of flashback. Also where the FUCK is shadow. How later sonic? How much later?
-Rusty Rose?? That's Amy isn't it? Like Evil alternate universe Amy.
-i don't know who Babbles is.
-IS THAT A BOP IT?
-Ok no it isn't.
- I don't understand what the shoes malfunctioning means. Is his speed artificial??? Are they like Spider-man's web-shooters?
-EGGMAN IS A FATHER? WHO'S THE MOM???
-Also Rose said there were other rebels. Wonder if it's the same squad- oh they answered my question. Rouge is not Rebel. And I guess Knuckles is also a rebel. Don't know if Tails is gonna be good or not. Cause I remember seeing something about a Tails with robot... Tails.
-YOURE IN AN ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE! WHY WOULD YOU THINK THINGS WOULD BE THE SAME.
-ok I was right. His name is... Nine? Also these episodes are really long.
-oh he still has the regular tails. It's more of a doc oc situation. I thought they were prosthetics.
-GEEZ "I was trained by the misery of life and this dark and heartless city" GEEZ
-gonna assume he's gonna be like "why'd you save me??? Why would you do this for me??"
-oh lord game footage that's cool as shit.
-sonic is not gonna pierce this together is he? And Nine is not gonna be like "yeah alright this guy is insane"
-MR.DR.EGGMAN. that's... Too much.
-Aww they're doing a little Tails bragging moment. Talking about how they're friends that's sweet.
-CHAOS COUNCIL? We're back to the chaos nomenclature??? what happened to the paradox shit? the hardest part of this is not that I don't have any sonic knowledge, it's that I have SOME sonic lore knowledge gained through osmosis and it's clashing with the lore that they're trying to establish in this cartoon.
-Nine is going for the full spider aesthetic huh?
-yeah. the tails are cool. I've always liked tails too, he's just too smart for me and i feel awkward when i don't understand him.
-COOL SHOES UPGRADE. Ok so the shoes are like... making it so that he doesn't explode due to the natural energy in his body, which i assume is what makes him fast. and that he'd be faster if he didn't have them, but also... more explode-y.
-HE ISN'T MISSING MEMORIES YOU IDIOT
-Oh the baby is back. I don't know how to feel about the baby.
-BLUE STREAK lol
-Ok that's an pixar's incredibles looking trap.
-OH SHIT SHE'S A ROBOT? oh not a robot. Rose is a cyborg and the way she talks about it amkes me sad.
-Nine??? is good or?? confused about his alliances.
-What. who. what. there's a whole family??? is... eggman their dad or?? who's the mom?
-of course he has hair in this "perfect" universe.
-are they like the chaos emeralds that can fuse to become the master emerald? and part of a whole??
-what's with casual dehumanization
-gosh he's such a dumbass but like an annoying one but also like indearingly so?
-I'm never gonna remember which eggaman is which. except babbles cause. yknow. toddler.
-omg the lasers effect is so ucking cool!! thay's a real nice scene ahhhh-
-they're like video games levels. alright. for now I'm really enying the visuals and the storytelling methods. on the story itself i'll see when it really gets going.
-oh no.
-ok I like the baby.
-OH THE PLOT THICKENS! the same energy as what powers the city? is the city powered by the emeralds? or by like- SHADOW??? IS THAT YOU-
-oh flashback 2. I don't know why but somethign about Tails' design looked... off. he felt naked. does he usually have like a scarf? goggles?
-Knuckled is just... hanging on the plane oh lord i'm dying.
-WHAT DO THE RINGS DO??? "in case eggeman gers in a lucky shot: rings" what??
-DOES SHADOW HAVE ROLLERBLADES?? ok he's raising on my list of favourite characters.
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aroaceamyrosearchive · 2 years ago
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Idol AU?! Who all is involved?
okay so me and @max-iwtaco have been brainrotting about it yesterday but we're trying to include as many characters as we can think of XD
THIS ASK HAS BEEN SITTING IN MY DRAFTS FOR MONTHS NOW I THINK. ANYWAY
i wanted amy to be the main character bc like. look at her...
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but okay so let me summarize what we talked about
-sonic and shadow both debuted when they were very young under competing labels. sonic does a lot of solo singing and rapping stuff, plays guitar, and dances (he specialized in breakdancing which is poggers), meanwhile shadow sings (he can do screamo if he wants. as a treat) and dances (he specializes more in interpretive type dance). theyve always been rivals, releasing albums around the same time and fighting for all the awards and stuff. and dont get me started on idol sports champio ships-
-so amy's dream has been to be an idol, and she took a lot of inspiration from sonic!! so she uses her tarot cards like in canon and it tells her to audition for the same label as sonic is under (tho im debating what to call it) and she does and makes it in!!!
-eggman runs a company. the one that team dark is under. team dark is a band with shadow on vocals and bass, rouge on vocals and electric guitar, and omega on drums. lets just say they have to buy new drums every performance.
-sonic also has a band with knuckles and tails, where he plays guitar, tails is on synthesizer, and knuckles is on drums.
-amy becomes a soloist but cream comes to all of her shows. she has special permission backstage to see her and be her emotional support. also they sometimes let cream on stage to sing a little song and the audience loves it. cream also has a kazoo
-knuckles's dad used to be the head of their company but knuckles inherited it. or something
-tails is a HUGE music theory nerd. he loves math rock
-amy dabbles in music composition (bc im projecting)
-tails and sonic knew each other since they were little and sonic would play guitar for him and tails started learning bc of him and then he got REALLY into music theory and became a big nerd. sonic cant actually read sheet music lmao
-sonic joined the company under the condition that tails joins with him and tails was so cute that they couldnt say no
-since knuckles takes care of the whole company now he doesn't actually perform concerts that often but when he does the audience goes WILD. you never know when youre gonna see knuckles. it's a gamble every time. on the times knuckles cant come play drums big will come to play instead
-big doesnt ever actually show upto practice bc hes too busy fishing. he just shows up and plays the concert and then he's gone again. froggy plays the cymbal
-froggy gets put on the concert posters and big doesnt bc big just shows up. froggy is the star of the show
-sonic raps while knuckles beatboxes. tails tries to rap and its adorable
-cream is the first to listen to amy's demos and comes to support her at the recording studio
-this quote from Max: "ALLSO she would give advice like "everything sounded VERY COOL but it would be even cooler if you added like DUMM DU DUMMM YDHVVJ TXFHVJJV at the end""
-blaze does classical music and plays the violin. silver does techno style stuff. they collab a lot and sound amazing together
-silver is super into composing and posts his stuff on bandcamp. he's not under any labels or anything
anyway. i love them
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beevean · 2 years ago
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I believe you are the resident Knuxamy fan on Tumblr, so if I may ask: what do you like about it/see in them? I'm curious!🍀
Oh, I'm really not fhdjfhdsjkfhsdkj I'm basically this meme
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I guess I can share these extracts from an abandoned WIP of mine, where I did try to explain what kind of chemistry they'd have?
“So… how’s Sonic? Haven’t seen him in a while.” “Oh, you know, somewhere, as he does.” “Huh?” “He decided to go on a run around the world after we cleaned up the mess of the war. I understand him, really, after six months of being held prisoner…” “You don’t sound very worried.” “Why should I?” she laughed. “He can handle himself just fine. I’ll be the first to greet him once he’s back!” “Usually you don’t really wait for him.” “Oh, you jerk!” she shoved him. “I don’t– I don’t do that anymore! I’m done with chasing him.” “Really?” he scoffed. “That’s too bad. I still remember how spooked Sonic was when we ran into you and your friends that one time. Not even Eggman can say he scares him as much!” “Yeah, yeah, I was a kid. I thought that he would just learn that he reciprocated my feelings if I insisted.” “Don’t get me wrong: he’s still my friend and I care for him very much. And I’m glad he cares about me too. He’s good, and fun to be around, and I can’t wait to go on another adventure with him!” Before Knuckles could roll his eyes, she added: “But… I don’t know. I can’t chase his shadow for the rest of my life. It made me feel like we weren’t on the same level. With all the craziness in my life, I’d like to have someone more… stable at my side. Reliable. One that I know that they will be there if I look for them, y’know?” “So you’ve finally realized that Sonic is [unreliable]? Yeah, you sure grew up.” "Jerk," she repeated with a smile. "I know he's your friend too. Don't worry, I won't tell~" 
“Oh, mind if I lift you up?” “Go ahead.” *Amy hammers Knuckles upwards* “Thanks! I nearly forgot this trick of yours.” *...* “Speaking of tricks!” *pulls out the Big Hammer* “Ta-dah!” “Wait! You still have that?” “Yep!” “It’s… very heavy, haha. I rarely need it. But sometimes, you just need that extra punch!” She swung her giant hammer downward, and the hit produced a loud, satisfying thud. The wall crumbled like it was made of cardboard. *...* His own hand-made hammer - a nice green and red hammer, with a spike on top and flames coming out of it at every swing - rested easy in the Hidden Palace, among his other little treasures. Truth to be told, he didn’t really like using tools; his punches were more than enough. But it was a present from a friend, and he’d always cherish it as such.
(you didn't think I'd pass the opportunity to remind people that Advance 3 is the GOAT and Knuckles and Amy paired together are powerhouses, did you? :P)
I wanted to avoid the cliché of Amy realizing that Sonic wasn't good for her after all, but I liked the idea of her getting closer to Knuckles because he's always there, he's a stable presence, and under his gruff exterior he really is a good friend to have.
(Amy is Amy. She's sunshine incarnate. I don't need to explain why Knuckles might come to like her:P especially if Amy understands that he's more of an introvert and they spend time simply chilling side by side)
Generally speaking, the two have a few traits in common, like being stubborn and hotheaded: so unlike many of my ships, which are either "opposite attract" or "the cutest babies ever 💖", they'd be birds of a feather: they'd banter because they have both strong personalities, but they can also understand each other. I like to think their dynamic could be "I can tease you and call you a knucklehead/kid, but no one else dare do the same!"
As for what they'd do, aside from meeting on Angel Island... well, that up there is a little idea that the two might hang out together by smashing old Eggman junk hfdjsfhsdkj
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vivyen-qwq · 3 years ago
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Today I've seen all of the 8 Sonic Prime season 1 episodes and I must say, I WAS STUNNED.
Watch out! Includes spoilers!
It was amazing! Every universe was a good idea and I felt like I read through fanfictions. Also I felt like every single character was acting like they would do (so no shadow edgelord or dump knuckles).
Everyone had a special part!
Amy had her moment when they were in this wild wood AU (=Another Universe) (btw I dunno what they were called again. I forgot. xD)
Tails had his moment when Sonic was in this world with the eggman empire thing. Same with rouge there.
What I think about the characters:
I really liked how Rouge joined the crew and in my opinion, she should be more active in team sonic. I like seeing her on that team. Even if I love seeing her act in Team Dark, this was a special moment! I liked it when she had her moments with Knuckles. I am not a Knuxouge shipper, but these moments made me smile, 'cause they were acting like good friends.
When I looked at Tails in this wood AU, I was not very pleased, bc he acted like a wild animal. But he was still cute. Nine was the one which reminded me of the fanfiction "where was my hero" and I was really surprised when I saw his spider-like invention on his back!
What can I say about Amy? She was amazing. Even if 2 versions of her were evil, she was still good. I was a little bit disturbed when I saw her as "Rusty Rose" but it was still cool.
Eggman or these other versions of eggman were not really impressive for me. I felt like they were all a part of the scientist. Like in this disney movie: "inside out" So yeah it was a funny idea to have a baby in this, but it kinda got on my nerves. xD
Sonic was unbelievably well written! He cared about his friends, he was like he is! It was so whoaaa! He still had his rivalry with Shadow and the fighting scene was so well animated. I really liked the plot twist, that this all was actually his fault and that he learned to appreciate the moments and memories with his friends in these other worlds.
Gladly Shadow was not really an edgelord like he was before in the games. I cannot describe why I felt like that. He spoke so softly and had not this sharp voice like in Team sonic racing for example. (Btw I am talking about the german voice actor, bc I watched it in German.) What I didn't like was when he had barely any scenes but I am sure that he will get more of it in the future (if there will be a second season).
I mostly had my eyes on Knuckles this entire time (bc he is my fav character in this entire franchise) and felt good while watching Sonic prime.
Since I saw the Sonic Boom Series with "Boom Knuckles" in it, I wasn't sure if this series would make fun of him and turn him into a ... well I would say not a well written character again, but I was impressed that he had his badass moments. Of course there were a few scenes I didn't really enjoy but all in all. It was good as heck.
I really loved the part when he was captain and even if I thought he could never be a good comanda/ leader (bc in my opinion he really messed up in sonic forces) he did a very good job. Even if I hated the start at this Pirate-Universe where he hid when this other ship appeared, I like how it turned out at the end. It kinda scared me how he looked at the part of the paradox prism and I first thought he would turn evil or would betray his crew, but he didn't.
So, now I come to the animation part:
It was very detailed, like the ears were moving when Sonic and the others showed emotions or they walked. It was very cartoon-like animated but what can I say? It's a kids show. I found it kind of annoying when they repeated these whole scenes when Sonic fell down on his face or against the walls but yeah. It's still a show for kids.
Ohhhh and the references with tails code being 1992 or others were really cool.
What also caught my attention was these time skips. It was kind of confusing to understand but it was okay.
And some of the characters had FANGS! Ahhh! ><
I absolutely LOVED these pixel animation parts when they remembered a piece of the past.
Now to put it all into a summary:
It was a great series and I hope they are releasing a second season. ^w^
It was much better (IN MY OPINION) than I thought it would be.
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