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#tomarry#harry potter#tom riddle#it's limbus company crossover...#because i saw a lobotomy corp crossover fanart today#my favorite sinners
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there's a part of canto vi I've been thinking about since it came out, and it doesn't actually have anything to do with Heathcliff.
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She is bitter as fuck and as time goes on she's getting worse at keeping it down. Sinclair's the one who started it, by talking about how sad it is that they'd never get to see color, and Rodya starts to get a little irritated over it (yeah, sure, pity the Backstreets folk and their poor miserable little lives, privileged nest boy), but she's obviously trying not to straight up call Sinclair a privileged nest boy because she doesn't want to. But then Yi Sang and Ishmael join in on talking about how sad this place is with no color and she just can't keep her opinion down.
But that makes the atmosphere tense, and she hates a tense atmosphere, so she changes the subject and her tone, not giving a damn about how obvious it is. also, haha, ice and cold references.
And actually, this doesn't really have much evidence to support it, but I wonder if she holds a higher level of resentment for Sinclair in particular.
Canto II had some discussion about how Rodya wishes she was special (and while I think what Sonya said about her killing the tax collector just to feel special is absolute bullshit, I do also think there is some truth to her wanting to feel special), and introduced us to the concept of The Sign in a way that was vague and more like foreshadowing than actually introducing it. Then Canto III was all about The Sign, and how special Sinclair is, and since then we've had people talking about signs and stars and a new birth of the world and it's all stuff Rodya doesn't get to be part of.
I don't think she wants to hold resentment for Sinclair, and she especially never wants him to know, but going back after all this time and rereading this one interaction with him in Canto II felt pretty jarring.
the more important part of this is the way it feels like she's making a joke at Heathcliff's expense, for being poor, like even though she's also from the Backstreets she feels she's "above" it.
She absolutely does not feel this way.
On my way to find the first passage, I reread some other interesting stuff:
Once again, there's the harsh juxtaposition between casual, fun-loving Rodya, and tired, poor man's advocate Rodya. Almost everyone on the team speaks through the lens of a Nest dweller (I have to wonder if learning that Heathcliff was apparently raised in a mansion made her even more bitter), and the way she's so short with her mention of the Sweepers makes me think she's thinking about how painfully obvious it would have been to any other Backstreets dweller. And then, right after, dropping back into her casual voice, and Sinclair revealing that Rodya used the fucked up Backstreets creature to tease him...
Other obvious moments of Rodya being bitter as hell about rich people include this part of S.E.A.
and this part of her observation logs on Spiral of Contempt (actually, nearly everything in that log that isn't about the physical abnormality has to do with how much she hates how rich people look down upon the poor)
Hong Lu's canto comes after Don's, and then after his is Ryōshū's, who, based on her source material, probably served one of the most awful, contemptuous rich people the sinners have access to, and I really hope at some point here Rodya gets to snap in a big way
...hey so I wrote this entire post at 1 in the morning and then saved it to drafts because I didn't want to post something at 1 in the morning. the Timekilling Time trailer came out about two hours later, featuring both Rodya... and the long-awaited return of the Yurodiviye. so now it's past 3 in the morning for me but I'm posting it now anyway because ohohoho seeing the Yurodiviye again has given me SO much energy
I have a feeling all this is going to be very relevant extremely soon
#limbus company#project moon#rodion#rodion lcb#lcb rodion#she's not even in my top 3 favorite sinners but she's so interesting to me#similar to lexaeus kingdomhearts except unlike him I know project moon are actually cooking something with rodya#rest in peace background character king#me post
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Although, such behaviors were deranged, Yoshihide still hold endearment much like any other human.
(Hell Screen, Ryunosuke Akutagawa)
#Finished reading Hell Screen last month#has been very not normal about the ryoshu was a grieving mother theory#IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE#AND A MOTHER WHO LOST HER CHILD STORY MAKES ME--#NGHGHUTHTUHHRJRTBSFJHS#I have cried multiple times thinking about this#Ryoshu goes up to my 2nd favorite Sinner after Ishmael#Project Moon#Ryoshu#Ryōshū#Limbus Company#LCB
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THAT MOMENT YOU REALIZE ALASTOR IS ACTUALLY WAY SCARIER THAN WE GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR
So, in the throes of doing world-building for my Hazbin fics and analyzing characters and how they fit into Pentagram's political system, I realized not only how powerful Alastor actually is, but how fucking scary.
Now, yes, in the grand scheme of things, Alastor is far from the most powerful person in Hell. Far from it. The Royal Family (Lucifer, Lilith, and Charlie), and the Goetia are way above the Overlords. Our twinky, angsty, galaxy bird, Stolas, could 100% body Alastor. I'm sorry, Al. I love you, babe. But in terms of the hierarchal system, you and the other Overlords aren't influential to the rest of Hell, at all.
But, it's an entirely different story if we stick exclusively to the Pride Ring.
I'm not trying to do a big, essay-length analysis, that's a lot of work and I'm tired, so I'll try to make it as brief as possible.
We know three crucial things: 1) sinners aren't allowed to leave the Pride Ring, 2) they've built a semi-functional society for themselves that is exclusive to their specific ring (with a political system that they've molded just for them), and 3) sinners can't kill other sinners.
So, what we have here is a big piece of land stuffed with people who can't leave it, in a society they've built specifically for themselves, with an amassing population that is constantly growing because they have no way of dying/or killing each other. (Honestly, it's like Heaven was setting them up for an Exterminations - THOUGH I'VE ACTUALLY COME UP WITH A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, COMPLETELY FANON BASED THEORY/WORLD BUILDING IDEA ABOUT HOW HELL HAD KEPT THE POPULATION DENSISTY CONTROLLED FOR THE MILLENIA OF COLLECTING HUMAN SOULS, HOW THE POPLUATION STILL GOT TOO LARGE AND THUS RESULTED IN THE EXTERMINATIONS, AND HOW IT WAS ROSIE WHO HAD A HUGE HAND IN IT ALL.
Anyway, back on topic, so the Overlords essentially control this Ring. We know Stolas lives in the Pride Ring (judging by the red sky we see when he's at his house), so its possible more Goetia live there too (and imps, and succubi; the Pride Ring is known for being the most diverse of the Rings), but we haven't seen any evidence of the Goetia, or any of the other Hellborn, interact or influencE Pentragram City in a political way--outside of the Goetia being above the Overlords in the hierarchal system). I headcanon that they do have some involvement in Pentagram City, as they do live there, but for the most part, the Pride Ring is left completely to the sinners and how they run things.
Lillith got involved, obviously (but she's been missing for years in the beginning of the show), Lucifer hasn't been involved for who knows how long, and Charlie obviously doesn't have a lot of sway, nor did she have any previous influence given how she's treated by the very people she rules over. Her status is known, but there's no actual respect for her or her title as the literal Princess of Hell.
The royal family may the the strongest beings in all of the 7 Rings, but outside of Lillith, it seems they had very little involvement (in Charlie's case) or interest (in Lucifer's case) in ingratiating themselves into Pentagram City.
The entire Ring is being run by the Overlords. They cannot leave it. The Pride Ring is their domain. This is their new home. This is their world.
And in this world, the Overlords are the top dogs.
So, Alastor is powerful just in the sense that he is one of the Overlords. Like them, he is essentially one of the rulers of their personal, caged-off little world. He has power and political sway. He joined the other Overlords for Carmilla's meeting, where they were going to discuss the aftermath of the Extermination and what they can do about the loss in the population (and thus, their power, given that owning souls is how they get it).
It's implied that this isn't the first time they've had meetings like this, and if they get together to discuss the best ways to recover from the Exterminations and make up for their mutual losses (literally working together when they could've all just been rivals trying to undermine the others to get more souls), who knows what else they've discussed in their efforts to keep Pentagram City running (especially considering that the best way to maintain their power IS by maintaining the city, it's people, and keeping it from falling apart at the seams. Taking care of the city is in their best interests - I use "taking care of" very, very loosely, considering this is still Hell and it's hardly the gold standard of utopia's). They're essentially a Board of Leadership with mutually shared power.
The Overlords have all the power. All the sway. In their established world, THEY are at the top of the food chain.
BUT then, you take into account that sinners can't kill each other (a rule that extends even to the Overlords), and that's when things get interesting.
In episode 4, "Masquerade" Valentino told Angel that he's "killed people for less" during the scene in the dressing room. But, in episode 2, after Valentino had torn apart one of Velvette's models, she wasn't upset in the way an Overlord would be if they lost someone under contract, especially considering that owning souls is what gives them power (and I assume that they own the souls of most, if not all, of the people they employ). She said that she can't sit and wait for "that bitch to pull herself back together," so, yeah, the implication is that sinners can literally be torn apart (even by the Overlords, who are the strongest among them) but won't die is immense. No matter what you do, a sinner will reform, or heal, or whatever, but they will come back.
So, consider, that there is only one person who's been able to kill sinners, permanently, and that person is Alastor.
Not only that, he killed Overlords.
In a realm where death is impossible, Alastor had cheated the system. And as far as we know, he's the only one who's been able to do it.
The only person I can think of who has something similar is Carmilla, but that's because she'd integrated angelic steel into her apparel. (Though, there's something to be said about her selling angelic weapons to the masses, as she is a manufacturer and distributor of them not only in Pentagram city, but all of the 7 Rings, (as Stryker had gotten his hands on a "Carmine blessing tipped rifle" to kill off Stolas, who's a Goetia), thus, sinners killing other sinners can still be possible, but that's only if they get you're hands on a weapon with angelic steel, or they're wealthy enough to buy onr, and I imagine Carmilla doesn't sell those cheap.
But Alastor didn't use angelic steel. He found a way to tear souls apart, where otherwise they were only able to be owned. Considering how terrified Husk (who is one of the most calm and collected people in the Hazbin crew; who had once been an Overlord, himself) was when AIastor threatened to do they same to him, like, that goes to show just how serious it is. He was literally full-body shaking. Ears-pinned back. Flight-fight-or freeze. Pressing himself down into the carpet.
We've never seen him like that at any other time during the show, even during the Extermination when they were all about to die.
Alastor's threat had scared him more than literally getting killed my an army of Exorcist's.
And like, yeah???? I get it????
That shit has to be terrifying. Not only for those that Alastor threatens, but for every single sinner in Pentagram City.
This random guy cheated the system, killed without any outside means, and if he can topple Overlords (the strongest and most powerful of them) almost over night, there's no saying what he can do to regular sinners. (Or what they think he can do, I have more thoughts surrounding whether Alastor would be able to tear apart a soul that is owned by someone else, but this is already getting long).
And, presumably, the only reason he stopped is because he decided to.
Like???? Do you guys understand what I'm saying???? For someone to have that kind of power??? In a system where that power SHOULD NOT be possible??? A power that gives him this massive advantage over everyone else???? That no one else can do???? And the only reason he doesn't use it is because he decides not to????
It's no wonder Alastor was so feared. Why he still is feared (by those who know of him at least LOL he has been gone for 7 years). And, like, yeah we see him be all creepy and scary during the show. We see him use his magic and grow into his demon form, and he is intimidating in that right, but I think the true horror of his character comes from this ability to kill the unkillable in a system where it never should've been possible in the first place.
That's where the true terror of the Radio Demon lies. That's where the visceral fear comes from. And it's why he's someone you wouldn't want to mess with, even for the other Overlords (especially for the other Overlords).
Like, it makes sense why he has such a massive ego. Why he thinks he can take on anyone. It's because he has. He's powerful, even by Overlord standards, and he knows it. And it makes further sense why him now being on a leash is making him unravel at the seams.
Am I making sense??? Is this all just meaningless rambling to you guys??? Idk! Idk. It's just been tumbling through my head, and it made me realize just how scary Alastor is, especially from an outside perspective.
I have SO many headcanons T.T I've done so much world-building, and I am have so much fucking fun. I feel like a kid in a sandbox. My brain hasn't stopped buzzing since this show came out.
Anyway, I'm off to outline more wips and work on the fics I'm writing. Happy Hazbin-ing to the rest of you.
#sometimes I feel like im out of my mind#the way this show makes me go feral#and GOD I love doing worldbuilding for Pentagram City#this is the most worldbuilding I've done for any other fandom or fic I've written#im having so much fun#my favorite worldbuilding right now is what I've come up for the cannibals#they are one of the biggest most crucial most terrifying aspects to the Pride Ring and the sinners#im just out here having a good time#i needed to get these thoughts out of my head#really#its know wonder Alastor has such a massive ego#its not wonder why he thinks he can take on anyone#because he HAS been able to.#hazbin hotel#alastor#hazbin alastor#hazbin hotel alastor#the radio demon#alastor hazbin hotel#alastor the radio demon#meta#character analysis#world building#headcanons#my world building
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Rodion, Don and Ishmael as magical girls ✨✨
NO BUT IMAGINE Ishmael as the knight of despair?? Like??? The shield, the long hair, that thing on her head she has????
#I probably need to draw Ishmael more she is my favorite sinner#lcb#lcb fanart#limbus company#limbus fanart#project moon#my art#rodion lcb#ishmael lcb#don quixote lcb#rodion limbus company#don quixote limbus company#ishmael limbus company
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Heathcliff E.G.O - Default | Corrosion
#posting him on my birthday as a treat for myself ... he is my favorite Sinner after all ~#honestly I feel all his E.G.O is lovely--but I'm also incredibly biased /lh#the weakest from a meta perspective seems to be Holiday ... but he sure does look cute--and I'm proud of that gif's loop asdfhjkl#gosh ... having them all side by side has me hard pressed to pick a favorite ... but I think it has to be either AEDD or Fell Bullet#Telepole is quite dear to me as well because that E.G.O is what really solidified my love for Heathcliff--the two nickels effect /lh#^ my main Ruina fave also has an E.G.O based off a wolf Abnormality#I CAN say the AEDD Corrosion is my favorite--followed by Ya Sunyata and Binds--but that's for the other post asdfghjkl#anyway uhm ... I love Heathcliff a normal amount /lie#... putting my tag for him on this ... being very brave ...#lcb heathcliff#heathcliff limbus company#limbus company#lcb#project moon#Extermination of Geometrical Organ#r: remind my heart to beat 💢#Over the (Project) Moon 🌙#blood tw#tw blood#scattered pages
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Massive spoilers for the end of canto 7
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA DON MY BELOVED
What a canto. It got sooo cheesy at the end, but it just worked because it's Don canto we're talking about here. Also the fact that Don's canto demonstrates another side of depression? The fact that once you get stuck in the depression hole, it's incredibly difficult to climb out? And the fact that she started to actively reject those that she knew cared about her?? And it was only through that very same support system that ultimately helped her pull through and realize that it didn't have to be over for her??????????? Also the themes of family and usurpation of the concept of "Blood being thicker than water" was super fun too. Sinclair popped off. Hong Lu is hilariously chill and insightful about all of this. Outis was being projecting sus per usual (we love her for it)
Amazing. I almost cried. I really hope we see Sancho pop out every once in a while. Her interactions with the OG Don Quixote was a fucking treat to watch and there's a lot of potential with that in the sinner cast as well.
Also give me Sancho/Bari please. The fact that Bari responded to all of Don's fixer letters was utterly precious
#limbus company#don quixote limbus#anyways hi guys you can probably guess who my favorite sinner is#I want to put her into a blender#shake her violently to let her know that she is loved
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Finally the second GS🏆Darren and Simone are just like one of us 😭
#us open 2024#jannik sinner#Literally this is my favorite moment of the final because the match itself was emmmm#but a win is a win! congrats Jannik you made it
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The reason I love the theory (Adam did not eat the apple) which is if you don’t know when Lucifer tempted them to eat the apple, only Eve ate it- Adam either did not do it or wasn’t there-
The reason I love this theory is because it gives a extra layer to Adam (who currently feels so one-sided) to me, him not eating the apple, gave him no moral code/compass, he doesn’t know right from wrong, he believes everything he does it right (ergo: I never a f*cking mistake in my life)- he believes what he doing is right, via what the seraphim tell him, manipulating him into doing the dirty work- the wrong thing, since he is only human who doesn’t know. Now does this excuse his actions? Not in the slightest! But does it give him a explanation to why he behave like this? In my eyes, yes! (Because he doesn’t know better!!!!)
#adam hazbin hotel#hazbin hotel adam#hazbin hotel#redemption adam#can you tell he is my favorite character#adam did not eat the apple#hazbin hotel theory#not every man needs to be scummy#also being said he needs validation that he is doing good and the right thing#from Sera and the others#but if he were to be a sinner- he would probably cling to neareast person/place that gives him that validation
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rules: put your music library on shuffle, then list the first five songs that come up in a poll to let people vote for their favourite!
tagged by @lovely-english-rose <3
uhhh for tagging @mihamihachu @saralancelot @birdbrainrot @strawberryking
#keetext#of all the evillious songs... my least favorite sinner 😔#realizing this is just a crystallization of my high school music experience. huh.
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Tkt spoilers under da cut
Hi Rodya fans how we doing
#project moon#limbus company#rodion lcb#royda lcb#I should draw her more she’s my 3rd favorite sinner#god this event was so good for her like hell yeah go question yourself girl#time killing time
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had a stray thought about the sinners' favorite colors founded on absolutely nothing
Comic Transcript under cut:
1. Dante: Tick tick... / <C'mon, be nice...>
2. Meursault: I like this one. Dante: Click / <Huh?>
3. (Not shown, but implied to be) Hong Lu: Blue? Me too~! (Not shown, undecided): You didn't just choose the first thing that popped up, did you? Meursault: It's vibrant but not too bright. It can be found in many places and doesn't stand out while nonetheless remaining distinct. (Undecided): ...oh. Meursault: Blue is also the most popularly liked color between most demographics. (Undecided): Oh.
4. Meursault: ...to be precise. Blue-greens are the most popular colors. Blue-violets are not as popular as other blues, as determined by the consensus of multiple polls across districts. (Undecided): I-it's okay, you don't have to justify it. Dante: Tick tick tick tick tick tick / <Aw, it's nice to hear your thoughts though, Meursault!>
(Caption pointing to Meursault: Had to choose something of interest working for Nagel und Hammer so her fellow office workers wouldn't bug her about gifts she was ambivalent on receiving)
#limbus company#projmoon#meursault lcb#dante lcb#my art#mango's art#comic#comics#sketch#sketches#doodle#doodles#trans meursault#so worried about portraying her properly but also delighted about the autism moment here#didn't even realize it could come off as one until after i was done#she did a lot of research but not so much she was consumed by it#wasn't her idea to have a favorite color imo#but also the implication here is that i think it'd be funny if all the sinners' favorite colors were the ones they're associated with /#the ones used for their dialogue#that'd make heathcliff's favorite color purple which delights me#but then there's fausts who'd--with this logic--love Pimk. fuck yes#really intrigued that meursault was given decay blue but it's absolutely fitting in a way i can't define#outside of the deep color of the sea and the color of the twilit sky#and the end of l'etranger ending in twilight and Ohhh okay
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I’m happy we’ll get to see a more serious side of Donqui but my god. I’m going to be so heartbroken if we never see our silly gal again. I know most if not all of that was a false persona but I don’t want to lose that part of her. Please let my DonDon stay silly just a little bit Project Moon I want my girl to laugh again.
#Corine.txt#she’s my favorite sinner i love her so much#please let her keep a little bit of silliness
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oh jannik passing shot how I have missed you
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DERENNNNN I LOVE YOUUUUUUUU!!!!
#path to nowhere#ptn#GIRL GOT ME ACTING UP!#The new line about her and chief ending up in a magazine due to their closeness and Deren not minding#GOT ME FD UP#NOT TO MENTION DEREN ASKING IF WE WANT HER TO GET US OUT OF THE CAR#HNNMMMNNMMDKLWNDKS MOMMY!#if anyone was ever wondering who my favorite sinner was… It’s Donald of course#NOT!#Deren my beloved#holyhomo’s unhinged homosexual thirsting
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