#ml double standard

[familyagrestefanblog]

Can't believe I haven't brought it up yet, but I got a good laugh out of "Daddycop" just casually having Marinette confirm that she indeed has a solid amount of Chloé's privileges as the Mayor's favorite now and that she's absolutely just gonna use it willy-nilly for whatever big thing she wants for herself on short-term notice:

"I've got special authorization from the Mayor of Paris, Mme Bustier, for the fire captain to put on a fireworks display especially for the occasion"

She just on that day walked up to Bustier and asked for a permit for huge and time specific fireworks - that's being executed by the official fire captain - like its nothing,

And as if in Paris a permit for fireworks ALONE doesn't require doing the red tape 10 days in advance.

And she dead ass asked for STATE-OWNED and executed fireworks that MUST go off on exactly the right time or else she'll cry. She takes it so for granted that she just ran the risk of wasting tax money because she didn't wanted to take any of Adrien's 37s "no" lol which then happened. She successfully wasted all of it because she couldnt accept that Adrien told her "No, we'll date tomorrow <3".

But remember, Marinette has never had a slither of privilege in her entire life. SHE is at the bottom of the world's food chain and has nothing to reflect on, EVER.

And, no, I'm not nit-picking. Thanks to "Revolution" in particular, these things have been established as "serious matters" now for the narrative. So, no, wasting privilege and taking it for granted doesnt suddenly stop being bad just because it's Marinette. Demanding that makes her privilege even worse ;)

Honestly? That's legit comedy gold right here

[miraculouscriticismshub]

MLB fandom Math be like ......

MLB fandom Maths is calling Adrienette toxic because they dislike Marinette's obsessive behaviour of Adrien and accuse her of stalking but ship Feligami despite how Felix also stalked Kagami and did worse than Marinette by kidnapping her.

MLB fandom Maths is hating on Kagami because she is getting in the way of Adrienette by having feelings for Adrien but is fine with Luka dating Marinette and supporting Luka at the same time.

MLB fandom Maths is saying Chloe doesn't deserve redemption because she never felt remorse or properly apologized for her actions but at the same time, forgive Felix and support his redemption arc despite him doing worse than Chloe and not uttering a single apology or properly repenting for his crimes.

MLB fandom Math is slandering Alya because they think she is a bad friend for believing Lila over Marinette as well as making a few ignorant decisions but go ahead and call Kagami a better friend despite her telling Felix LB's identity without her permission.

MLB fandom Math is attacking and cancelling small creators by accusing them of predator behaviour when they have made a slight mistake but are silent when a big content creator is openly showing predator behaviour.

MLB fandom Math is being quick to call out the toxic behaviour of some Chloe/Felix/Lila stans but staying quiet when some toxic Maribug/Adrichat or Adrienette stans also show signs of aggression, some even go as far as to support their behaviour (e.g what happened to that one Lila fan)

MLB fandom Math is celebrating the fact Chloe gets sent off to live with her abusive mother and is glad that she is written out of the show, justifying their opinion by saying she deserves to be abused by Audrey but if you say the same thing about Felix, they will go mad and call you an abuse apologist

MLB fandom math dislikes Sabrina's redemption because she only betrayed Chloe because she wasn't being benefitted by her friendship with Chloe and was being replaced but go ahead and support Nathalie's redemption when she ALSO betrayed Gabriel because she was also not being benefitted anymore by their partnership.

Disclaimer: These are just common double standards I've seen in the fandom so I thought is important to address this so please stay respectful when commenting :)

[miraculousdeservesbetter2024]

To be honest, with this series double standards and how it treats Chloe compared to literally everyone else, I’m about 99.9% sure that the lesson that they are trying to purvey (whether if it be about concealment of identity, the mere fact that “not everyone changes” or even “you’re the one who’s solely responsible for your own actions”), only implies to her. Once she’s gone, then none of those lessons no longer exist and you’re not allowed to dislike anyone else, because “no one’s prefect” or “their bad actions are justified”.

[ml-rants]

"Adrien called out Marinette for prioritizing her sewing project (which in reality was her superhero duties) over Aglae, which means he's having more and more of a backbone. Slay king get her ass!"

And then Adrien left Aglae all alone because guess what? he prioritized his superhero duties over Aglae too.

(Did he really call her out btw? Or did he just ask her if she really had to leave rn?)

[broadwaycutie16]

Oh big whoop de do. Marinette deliberately let Adruen’s life fall to complete and total permanent ruin just to spite him for some teenage drama, and let what she KNEW to be a dangerous havoc-reeking psycho roam free with millions of dollars that she could use to continue hurting the innocent in infinite ways, but she didn’t actually physically harm anyone, so we should go easy on her for not being as much of a b!t€h as she could have been!

Maybe Marinette couldn’t have completely protected Adrien, but she COULD have stopped the karma piling on him from becoming too much. She could have denied the accusations when he was first rumored to be a terrorist accomplice, or gotten his money back from Lila who stole it illegally, but she chose not to for no actual gain than to see Adrien suffer. Even without her help, Adrien would have been punished enough for his actions. But she deliberately let him choke on everything out of spite. And THAT’S why she’s being punished.

Here’s the thing — I know that Marinette’s punishment in Karmic Backlash was unfair. That was the whole point. The karma system in the original story made it perfectly clear that those who enable others to do bad are more deserving of its wrath than those who actually do do bad. If Adrien deserved everything he got in the original story, then by that logic Marinette deserves the same if not worse, since she did all the same things he did in the original story and for no real gain but some kind of warped triumph.

The only reason people are saying it’s unjust in KBl and not in KoL is because the narrative doesn’t favor Marinette. Sorry, you can’t have it both ways. You can’t say that what happened to Adrien was more or less okay and that what happened to Marinette wasn’t.

[plumsaffron]

Ha good one Plum. Even in canon accurate fan crossovers, the other franchises’ characters wouldn’t be that romantically interested in Saltinette. They would be turned away by her obsessiveness about Adrien since she would wind up not paying attention to the dates or think something doesn’t sit well about her.

Rjalker? I’ve seen ppl talk about this crazy ah bitch long ago when I used to follow critical blogs. That person has a serious Adrien and Chloe hate-boner. Someone mentioned that they even made Adrien a covid denier despite the official series having PSAs on that matter.

Don’t let their cute art/pic edits fool you, they’re actually quite nasty on the things they hate. Typical miracusalter and notable people/character hater behavior when they slap pastel colors on their account and posts just to pretend to be kind and sweet on the outside.

Adrien as Chat Noir didn’t really do that much bad things yet Miracubozos paint him as lazy, incompetent and a creepy pervert? He’s a sheltered teen but he’s aware that he’s no criminal! Marinette is the one acting out but her friends didn’t call her out for her stalking tendencies? Double standards.

Late 2010s-2021?: salt content is by the hundreds to even thousands of stats per post.

Now?: stragglers by 200 stats and less here

Chloe too? Oh god. Sigh…

I heard they did some Adrien guillotine thing too.

Only Miracubozos would go out their way to paint one who has anything but an unlazy lifestyle as lazy. Honestly I wouldn’t even be upset if Cat Noir was lazy, but as usual, the clowns yearn to spout anything for vilificating or desperate attempt to put him on equal grounds with Marinette Ladyshielding purposes, to make themselves feel better. He’s dedicating his time for a partner (or rather guardian) that still plays string and keep away and undervalue.

Creepy pervert. Incompetent.

Ah yes, but how come Marinette is the first and probably only one that pops in my head when it comes to incompetence and being a creepy pervert? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :). Guess they are projecting Marinette’s bad traits onto him.

Miracubozos gotta to get off the Maridust.

[flightfoot]

The chimney comment made me think about a conversation i had with my sister, and me think about like:

Chat noir breaking a chimney

Fandom: he's misogynistic he hates two women working together without him, Racist cause alya is woc, it's toxic masculinity and he is violent and malicous just like his father

Chloe making racist comments to marinette and her uncle, putting cockroaches in her locker, willingly joining a terrorist,

Fandom : She is just misunderstood and is acting out to get approval of her mother, stop "victim blaming"

I agree that the salty fandom response to Chat breaking the chimney was dumb and paid no attention to what was actually going on in the story, but I'd rather not pit him against Chloe here. Chloe has plenty of faults, but I am still sympathetic to her, and like to look at the different reasons why she is the way she is and how she could become better.

[angelshizuka]

If movie!Adrien/Cat Noir was a girl, but still acted 100% the same, people would've called him a "gril boss" instead of a douchebag.

I know, because I've been in fandoms for 20 years and have seen this kinda stuff play out over and over again, y'all people aren't sublte.

[miraculouscriticismshub]

I've noticed something in the MLB fandom which is that a lot of Chloe stans (not all of them) seem to dislike/hate Felix while a lot of Felix stans (not all of them) seem to dislike/hate Chloe which is interesting because Felix and Chloe are really similar and have some things in common.

I've noticed that too. From what I've seen in the fandom , is that you either Stan one or the other or you hate both. From my observations :

People who stan Chloe but dislike Felix seem to mostly be Chloe Stans and some Adrien stans

People who stan Felix but dislike Chloe seem to be mostly Felix stans with some Nathalie/Gabriel/Kagami fans

People who dislike both Characters seem to be mostly Marinette Stans and some Zoe stans as well.

Tbh , I DON'T blame Marinette stans for hating both Felix and Chloe as both have been nasty to Marinette in the past. I also can understand why some Chloe stans resent Felix because they have been told time and time again by the show that Chloe is undeserving of redemption for not repenting for any of her crimes yet in S5 we witnessed Felix pretty much get away with everything he did between Strike Back and Emotion and got to keep his miraculous and join the hero team despite being 10x worse and not apologising once. That will get anyone angry. What does confuse me is some of the Chloe disliking Felix stans that don't admit the double standard. Some Chloe disliking Felix stans do admit the double standards going on but the ones who don't puzzle me? What has Chloe ever done to Felix ? They are quite similar like you said so it's interesting some people dislike Chloe for the same reasons they like Felix for ?

[fred-the-dinosaur]

If someone wants another actual yogurt+flour thing that's gluten free and tastes good, here is also my recipe for buckwheat latkes.

2 dl buckwheat flour

1 dl yogurt + 1.5 dl water + optional splash vinegar/lemon juice (or just 2.5 dl buttermilk)

1 egg

1 tsp salt

0.5 tsp baking powder

pinch salt

Method: beat it all together then fry in a buttered skillet like drop scones/latkes/small pancakes/regional equivalent. Ie. A little under a dl at a time, usually I get three in the big frying pan in one go. When they bubble and loosen from the pan you can flip them.

They freeze and defrost well, and can be reheated easily. As long as you like buckwheat. There's a whole thing where a gluten free recipe is so rarely actually two or three ingredients but this one is 7 including water and salt, less if you can get buttermilk where you are. ( We use yoghurt water mix bc only the yoghurt is lactose free.) And they actually taste great, and feel like a proper pancake.

Okay so I don't want to respond directly to the post because it seems like it wouldn't be polite, but that recipe for 1:1 yogurt/flour fry bread that's floating around is. Well. I'm not going to say it's bad, and I'm sure some people will like it, but it tastes overwhelmingly of yogurt and you *have* to add salt and even then it still tastes like yogurt.

Also someone on that post was like "is this Naan? This is naan! I didn't know naan was so easy to make" and that's because it's not. Naan requires yeast and butter and salt and does include some yogurt but it's like one part yogurt four parts flour, not 1:1.

Anyway. I made it and I found it so unpleasant that I threw out more than half the dough. It didn't taste good with garlic butter, it didn't taste good with vinegar, it didn't taste good with the lentil soup I made it to pair with.

There are some decent simple flatbread/fry bread recipes out there but "mix one part yogurt and one part flour then fry and dip in vinegar" is not one that worked for me personally. And if you're going to try it, please please please add salt.

[plumsaffron]

Roasting the miracusalters as much as I can! Pt. 4!

I hope y’all got your rabies shots because I can see your frothing saliva from a distance!

Brainrot? You and your content are the prime example of that on the poor new internet users. Not just the low quality content farms on YouTube or anywhere else.

Y’all feel that triggered by minor inconveniences such as school issues? I STG I didn’t hear shit like that on canonically difficult battles!

Could y’all tag properly? Or separate them from other things? There’s a thing called specific tagging for your so-called pathetic plots not just tags referring to the series as a whole!

Wait… do some y’all secretly have a vendetta against black and white people? That’s why Alya and Adrien usually get the short end of the stick in your content?? Even though Marinette is half Caucasian and half Asian??? Not trying to accuse anyone but I’m seeing a pattern with that kind of psychological projection with the hurtful racial stereotyping.

Hold up, are some of y’all rabid SJWs trying to create hetero erasures? Because I’ve been seeing less straight characters in fanworks, unless they’re being used for your pathetic bashing too. And why the fuck did you make some characters homophobic? That’s wrong and inappropriate! The show actually has some canonical LGBT characters and couples!

Speaking of TVTropes, the character bashers’ content are the equivalent to Stinkmeaner’s crew from the Boondocks (hating everyone) but way less funny even with good consistent writing. Also actually unreasonable, pathetic and delusional as fuck even when canon made significant improvements.

Double standards Double standards…:

Miracucunts when a character has hurt feelings: “*le gasp* Who hurt you?! Lemme fight them!”

Miracucunts when Adrien has hurt feelings: “Oh come on! Suck it up! You weren’t acting like this before!”

Miracutards when any non-ML character tries to be good: “Redemption Arc let’s gooooo!! I know you’ve killed someone/many people but you were forced to do it! Blame it on that fucker for turning you into a criminal!”

Miracutards when any of the most salted/hated characters try to be good: “No no, you don’t deserve to be redeemed for going behind your friends’ backs/turning against them!”

Miracubozos when a literal murderer does something: “Aww! Hope that ‘victim’ was a really bad guy!”

Miracubozos when one of their canon characters does something: “WTF?! Immature fool! Bitch ass! Bad writing!”

Miracutwits when a character is written as a Yandere even if they go too far: “But they’re also hot! They truly love their sempai more than those admirers!”

Miracutwits when their canon character is written as a Yandere who didn’t do too much: “FBI OPEN UP! They deserved to be locked up or executed ASAP! They’re sick in the head!”

Miracusalters are crabs in a bucket.

Miracrabs do love making minor inconveniences their real struggles in life. They the type to be able to defeat the final boss countlessly but they would collapse facing a common enemy in practice mode that rarely appears in the game. I’m almost curious how they survive in real life.

Maririding is a big epidemic for the miracustankdom. Seems a lot only accept when Adrien and Alya subjugate themselves completely to the supreme order or they Cat Walker into the collective populous’ or hotshots' interests. They are bored or just want to find or make up excuses to fume upon the two and hold onto it, just because they didn’t function as they wanted them to.

They’re kind of funny forsaking the two, all because they want them to do only what they think they should only in this specific way into to. If Adrien or Alya were to react different from what some watchers collectively seen or the duo had another different perspectives from them, miracumsocks still would collapse. They talk about how they want something different but they really just want same old apples permanently instead of pears and possible other fruits. They don’t want fruits at all, only this one, this way, this shape and form.

Seems as long as they do not align to their status quo of how the believe things should go, they still would be rather ugly to the two still. Surely have a strange lust for attacking characters they see as weaker or easy targets. Probably because they feel like it or because they are who they are or what they are. Just because it’s them. It’s likely they would find another character to scapegoat if either didn’t exist. It’s a twisted form of worshipping the two.

Speaking of projecting, such peeps are really lame. They have seen episodes in their face why projecting too much is bad and what it leads to. Instead, such scuds have related heavily to the projecting will or absorbed into their being and spread it all around. Appears they use it as a mask of righteousness or somethings. Believing they accomplished something. Think they found a solution but they would still end up repeating the cycle. Just as they’ve been doing for years to almost a decade.

Sucks they don’t understand what Adrien’s been through (and still unfortunately is going through). Strange scales they use against him or induce invalid equalization to bring him down.

They sure like being choosey when to be offended and when to completely brush it off as rubbish or making out to be it’s this one’s fault when it clearly shows it’s not. Disturbing points of distortion of what they’ve seen and known, inorder to fit how they wished it did (and unfortunately many followed that way as truth).

A lot of times people saying bad writing seems more like an escape term used just because they fumed over things not going the collective way and others agree upon like mindless mobs. They also use it when defending a character clearly in the wrong or be like ah I blame the writers but if it was another character, it open fire (and strangely may include if they are in the right) It’s all they can hold onto. Kind of like flaw finders that want to suddenly hate found flaw. Maybe they are badly written & wish to continue that for themselves.

But yeah Double Standards This Miracuscabhorrent Fandom Has.

[generalluxun]

Minor quibble bit Chloé didn't steal anything from Marinette. Hawkie already *had* all of the Miraculous. If anything she stole them from Hawkie when she tried to use them all herself, thereby *preventing* him from running off with them.

It wasn't intentional heroism, but it wasn't selling out the heroes either. I mean, Chloé rejects HM's offer and he just... Leaves with the box? We skip S4 entirely, half the class aren't heroes yet, LB/CN haven't resolved their relationship issues, Nathalie is still healthier and present to talk Gabe down.

Legit everything would have been worse if Chloé hadn't intervened.

that time TA tweeted "you can behave like the worst garbage, all you need is a micro-good deed for all of a sudden, many will forgive everything." as an insult to people who saw good in Chloé and liked her as a character despite him saying over and over again that she's bad and a bully and yet he wants us to believe Felix is one of the "genuinely good guys" after all that he did in his debut ep and S4-5 like. eugh.

Well, you see, the difference between the two is that while Chloe betrayed Ladybug and stole all of her Miraculous, Felix betrayed Ladybug and... stole all of her Miraculous...

Okay, while Chloe used her Miraculous to endanger innocent lives the second she got it, Felix used his Miraculous to... endanger innocent lives the second he got it...

Give me a minute here. Ah, got it! While Chloe views anyone who isn't like her as expendable, Felix views anyone who isn't like him as... expendable...

Yeah, I got nothing that really justifies this.

[leuke-rants]

I'm actually happy that I will abdicate my title as Empress didn't turn into just another love triangle despite the cover art looking so

I also really like that Adelaide never really looks down on Diane as a stupid lowly scum who's out to steal what is rightfully belonging to her, I'm tired with characters acting like they own everything, I've seen it with stories that are trying to change the old stereotype of "rich people are evil" but it ended up with protagonists who suddenly considered everything their birthright and taking back what is rightfully theirs. It was fun seeing them punishing enemies who are out to get them but it's not fun anymore, it's boring

Adelaide is prideful but not the kind where it's basically an insecurity that everyone is looking down on her even a maid, that fits her shitty ex, Karl more. She reprimanded Karl's uncle about it cuz she can smell that guy's shady ass and disrespect towards her a mile away, she's not the kind who would honestly cut someone's tongue cuz they said one bad thing about her, she commands respect by being a polite and respectable person

Remember she didn't lash out or slapped Diane for her impudence because she wants to be a better person, because it's basic human decency not to strike someone at the least inconvenience, considering her having been the heiress of the throne back in her home country that's like a sea away, I feel like Adelaide probably went through worse examples of disrespects and impudence before since she almost became Regnant Empress/Queen of her country after all

I don't remember much but Adelaide never really looks down at Diane, at worst she's only annoyed with her bullying antics and it's shown to be a lesson for Diane to stop attacking her when Adelaide got her kicked out of the White Palace that the Emperor's actual maid mom wanted him to give her when he's the Emperor which I think isn't meant to be about how his mom was a power hungry bitch or even hate on Mistresses, it's meant to be a tragedy cuz I'm pretty sure his mom was forced to give birth to him and she couldn't say no to his Father, the Emperor at the time, plus the woman probably had trauma and she birthed the next heir and Emperor, giving her a palace isn't an overkill, plus the Palace thing was meant to be Karl's giant ass mommy issue complex to be fair and even Diane realized such

Y'know it's funny people hate Lowborn Mistresses without considering how they were forced into it or had no other chance because they needed to survive but not when the poor misunderstood rich girl did it cuz she's also a survivor and wanted to take back what's hers

The double standards are ofc insane

People justify all kinds of insane shits when it comes to survival in this genre so much, I don't think it's about survival it's about being the most righteous one in the room

Adelaide didn't really like Diane very much when they first met, but slowly started to understand her and even sympathised with her.

Diane in return realised that Adelaide was never the one to blame for her problems, the ones who were responsible for her suffering were her family and the emperor (I might be wrong since I haven't read IWAMTAE in a long time).

Both women come to an understanding and stopped blaming eachother for their misery.

Also, I do agree with you. Slapping people (especially maids) is considered justifiable by many authors and readers even if it is unnecessary. In "Kill the Villainess", Helena reprimands Eris for slapping a maid and just tells her to fire the maid who wronged her ,and she is right. There is no need for the rich and privileged fl to abuse people of lower status, just fire them and be done with it. This is so bad that a big part of Isekai Maid's existence is to criticise those fls and mls who basically abuse their stuff and the authors/readers who justify these actions

These people are hella hypocritical. They will do mental gymnastics in order to justify the ml and fl, saying that their heinous actions are ok because they are just trying to survive, but then they'll go and hate on the villainess for doing the exact same thing.

Rashta from The Remarried Empress is a perfect example. People call her greedy, stupid, a gold-digger and a homewrecker for becoming Sovieshu's mistress, completely ignoring the fact that Rashta just wanted to survive.

These people will go far and beyond to justify Heinry's horrible crimes, saying that he didn't have a choice because he was just trying to protect his country and his wife, but the moment Rashta inconveniences the fl, suddenly she is the devil

[fernsnouveau]

Frankly, the problem with Félix isn't that he got a redemption arc. It's that he didn't get one. Or even a redemption moment. He doesn't apologise, he doesn't confront what he did wrong, there's nothing to indicate that he's improved, we are given zero logical reasons why Ladybug and Chat Noir and the others would accept him into the team after everything he's done and shown no remorse.

Also there's that other issue where he falls into that annoying trope of a villain who actually had a point (the whole thing about why isn't anyone else existentially horrified of the extremely callous way that the Peacock Miraculous has been used to create potentially sentient or sapient life just to be used as tools, and then just as callously disposed of), but instead of actually exploring the point, the writers just derail it by making the villain be an asshole and unnecessarily hurt or kill or try to kill a bunch of innocent people.

And then there's Félix' hypocricy as an alleged senti rights activist, who nevertheless repeatedly threw other sentis, and other sapient magical beings enslaved by their connection to magic objects, under the bus in order to achieve his own selfish goals. Which... could have been a consistent character flaw, honestly, but now we're back to the complete lack of an actual redemption arc, which means that it just never got addressed. At all.

I'm the anon who wanted to know when to stop watching MLB if I still wanted to like it but I read a synopsis of emotion and what the fuck, this asshole gets a redemption arc??? no wonder you told me to stop at ladybug

Ahahahahahhahahahhaah

YEAH

Season 4-5 is an absolute fucking trainwreck

And don't get me wrong: I came her from Steven Universe and My Little Pony. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna nitpick too much in the 'kids fantasy show allows the people who committed atrocities to fix things' thing.

But

When you have Felix committing genocide and Gabriel's...... goddamn everything but they're 'redeemable' people while Chloé's worst crime on her own was middle school bullying and she's 'an irredeemable monster'......

[koremakaria]

Looks like a cinnamon roll but WILL definitely kill you .... yes I am talking about our ML Yu Qi

If looks alone could kill then the princess will certainly be a grade A fertilizer at this point ☠️

Damn ... this princess is TERRIFYING. She's borderline psychotic but it's no surprise with a mother like the Royal Princess ... yikes!

OMG! He's so protective of Jiang Si and I have to wonder if he remembers any of the time before the whole time travel because there are just too many moments that do not make sense. For starter, why does he always give our. FL special treatment if they truly just met after she "fell" into the river? Why insist on living next to her house? Why propose marriage simply to protect her reputation? Why the double standard when FL possess the mark of a clandestine/spy group? Why the leniency? I have so many questions!!!

[immaturityofthomasastruc]

for a show who's creator openly and shamelessly calls people abuse apologists, ML's tendency to use love and moral uprightness as justification really does not help the hypocrisy and double standards allegations. i know I've seen people who haven't kept up with the show or never watch it to begin with asking what's happening in this show but it does feel bad when you see people being told that yea, ML really said "the end justifies the means" and love can forgive even the most heinous crimes (which is, yanno, an actual manipulation tactics used by abusers to keep the people they abuse in relationships with them). that terrorist who's been destroying the city and manipulating it's inhabitants and abusing his child? poor little meow meow, his wife is dead and he just wants her back. that kid who's response to his oh so troubled past of being abused decides to use the miraculous to do something that'll get people killed? he's fine, he's got a girlfriend now. (nevermind that the show already said your sad backstory isn't an excuse for your bad actions to somebody else but who cares about the unfortunate teenage girl) doesn't matter if how the protagonist acts ableist, destroys public property and disregards young girls and their privacy (already an irl problem tbh) itself is horrific, so long as we get rid of the girls who's going to make the classmates sad for like two seconds. doesn't matter if you're sending a child away to be further abused and neglected, our class bully is gone and we don't gotta put up with her anymore. doesn't matter if i have to lie to an abused child about the extend of how shitty his dad is so long as he's not too sad about said abusive parent dying. canon says they're all good actions so obviously they must be!

The thing is the stuff with Chloe in Season 5 isn't bad in a vacuum. The lesson that your past can only go so far to justify your present actions isn't a bad one. It's just that the show ignores that lesson time and time again with almost every antagonist who isn't Chloe, like Felix, Sabrina, Andre, Nathalie, and Gabriel.

This is seriously a show that had an episode end with a child being taken to live with her verbally abusive mother treated as a satisfying conclusion right before another episode trying to tell a serious story about child abuse.

If you want to talk about a serious issue like child abuse, you can't "both sides" this. Pick a lane for God's sake.