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Lego monkie kid: the characters.
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Before we start, I want to say this is the only post I will make about Mikaila's takes and video, and you can quote me on that. Alright we got? Good.
Also, quick side note this is the video where they stole from an artist, then proceeded to call them a cunt. Also Also they did a great job showing overly sarcastic production and giving them credit, but I guess it was just too hard to credit an artist whose piece was apparently shit.
For the most part, she is right about the show. Unlike Lily, she didn't lie about parts of the show. It's fun. The animation is amazing, and there are points you will actually start crying or even thinking more about yourself, but where she stumbled is the characters. Mostly with Mr. Tang, Red son, Macaque, and the rest of the demons.
First off, she kinda just brushes over Mr. Tang and by brushing over, I mean not even a name drop. Mr. Tang is not forgettable. Mr. Tang is kinda the exhibition guy he's the one to fill you in loosely about what happened in JTW to help make sense of what's happening in that scene. For example, when the gang plus Red Son has to go to the court of heaven to help deal with the spider demons, Tang is telling them what they need and where to find them. Mr. Tang is that dad who is there to tell his kids about history. He's also just really fun to watch.
She brings up Macaque as a character that is also there, which is ignoring Macaque. Now, she says that she didn't really care for him, which is fair, but she's writing him off as just some guy that shows up and dips, but that ignores how he was sitting in the back of Wukong and MK's mind. MK was genuinely scared of him and Wukong having to come face to face with the friend he betrayed and killed. Macaque is that old-school villain who is there to intimate the hero.
And now to the villains of the story. The Saturday morning villains who asked for extra ham on their ham and cheese sandwich. I agree with the fact that the villains are super fun to watch, she's talks about the bull demon family but, more specifically, Red Son.
Now Red Son is the cocky little fucker we all love but not in the way she thinks she brings up Hunter from the owl house and says
"Red Son is what Hunter should have been. A self-important brager who can't escape the fact that he's a normie weasel that kisses up to his uncaring father"
Which is just WHAT THE FUCK?! First of all, Red Son is not normal. He's a prince and a demon he's like Zuko if he was more confident or Azula if she took a chill pill on the manipulation and was just cocky. Another thing, DBK isn't an uncaring father he clearly cares about his son, but because he's written from the Ming dynasty, he's not gonna show it in the way fathers would now the only time we see him call his son useless is A) when he was possessed and B) when he was pissed off at being captured thinking his son died only to find out he got away then started talking about how Spider queen will never catch him (personally I thought that scene was really funny and actually made me shoot water out of my nose)
When Wukong starts egging him on seeing that he was going to break the webbing that was keeping everyone trapped, he brings up Red Son, and that was the tipping point DBK needed to get free to which he runs off to go find him.
DBK is a pretty caring father and husband he doesn't have to really worry about PIF as she's already proven capable of protecting herself. Red Son is still considered a child to him, and he's been out of his life for a good chunk of it, so he doesn't fully know what Red Son is capable of, especially without his samade fire which at the time of making that video we didn't know about the fire so she gets a small pass on that.
Last but not least, the whole "Saturday morning" villains, all the villains believe it or not, don't get redemption they get atonement. Except for the spider demons, which I saw as being horribly unfair to them, they died and didn't even get a chance to realize that maybe world domination isn't worth it. Spider queen's death was super sad. The screaming, how she fought so hard to get herself free, the last ditch effort of reaching out for help, and finally seeing her sink into the position. How the little power she had was used to power something, not even she would enjoy.
Every character is a blast to watch and is never a dull moment with them. Hell, even the one-off side characters are a blast like the delivery guys gold and silver employed and never showed up again.
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Am I the only one who's seeing a bastard child hybrid of the MLP:FiM and Panty & Stocking art styles here? the hoof-legs almost feel like evoking Jenny XJ9 too
That feels like it's what MO is trying to emulate here. She does not have anywhere near the amount of understanding the fundamentals to pull off stylized cartoony artwork.
Reminder that Lily and her circle believe it's fine to attack other people's skill-level but in their minds' it's illegal to criticize any of their own slop.
Doubt it since her "style" will flip and change at the drop of a hat
No consistency
Shit she can't keep the oven mitt hands, the feet shape, cape (yeah I know capes are removable but still), her two part sleeve, even which color the blank background is lol (i assume because of that characters hair)
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So Lily found out about Tapirclip's video about Iris and Kiera and spent the second half of her wow stream tonight raging about it.
"It's funny they call it anti-medicine because like Iris has a PhD in clinical psychology"
Translation: "My imaginary friend went to college so I can't possibly be wrong about my understanding of child psychology"
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Imagine subbing to a twitch streamer and them complaining that you supported them. The complaining that its not enough! Who would support a spiteful person like this? Lily has control over how alerts are played and she just chooses to yell at people anyway. Saying later that she'll take away the perks that subs get out of spite. This noise i set up is too loudddd guysssss. Sounds like a you issue.
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Your wife said Ant should be killed by a truck a few days ago.
Just saying.
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so, Lily Orchard and Mikaila are both just being awful people by showing not one ounce of empathy or sympathy to addicts and will not hesitate to shame them?
Lily, you and your wife are exactly like motherf**king Adam and Lute from Hazbin Hotel, who in this song number not only slut shamed Angeldust but called him a "crackwhore", which mind you Angeldust is a recovering addict, while they also boast that any argument defending him or making a case for him to be worthy of redemption is "Useless" and "Petty"?
I'd like to state for the record for non-Hazbin fans that Adam and Lute are NOT portrayed as good people.
They are the religious extremist bigots who think sinners can't be redeemed and want to kill them
you know. THE BAD GUYS!!!
cripes, is it any wonder why Vivziepop hates you Lily?
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Doesn't 'ol Lorch here tend to say every accusation is a confession?
[Lily's Post]
So is this a confession that sending her little minion Taffer after my art and continuously bringing up me drawing a hand backwards once in one comic panel is dishonest and only because she doesn't like me or my criticism? :3
Lorch is correct though that critiquing her wife's art is futile because Mirch isn't even on a level that would make it worthwhile. Mirch would benefit most from going back to fundamentals. From what I've seen of her process she seems to have heard of construction lines but does not grasp their purpose.
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At this point, I think we need to recognize that Mikaila is a grown adult who has been with Lily for a bit now, and there is no sign of her leaving or not enabling Lily anytime soon.
She knows who she's dealing with and is grasping at straws to keep the popularity Lily has given her, and that's all.
She is complicit, and she is never going to wise up like Lizzy or Carousel did and just leave. At least, not any time soon.
exactly...
im not comfortable saying Morch is just riding her wife's coat tails... she seems very happy and proud to defend her wife... there is genuine love there and kudos to them for finding each other...
unfortunately... her loving and defending Lorch says a lot about her personality... none of it is good...
#mikaila turkleson#lily orchard critical#lily orchard#lily orchard crit#mikaila orchard#lily peet#lorch critical#lorch posting#lorch
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HEY Y'ALL IT'S MIKAILER WITH AN "ER" WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO GRASP!?
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Did I get your attention, Mikaila? I hope so, let's see.
Mikaila, I don't like you. You've done shit that's soured my opinion of you. I'm acknowledging that now to get that out of the way. I'm not here to be two-faced about this or blow smoke up your ass.
But as one idiot who stayed in a toxic relationship to another-- I'm not making fun of you because I think I'm better. I know. Being in a relationship like that brings out some ugly shit. You resent and fear people will never forgive you. You don't know if you will forgive yourself. I'm not making fun of you because I think I'm better than you.
And it feels kinda good, being treated badly? In a weird way? When you're used to it? When you feel you kind of deserve it? It did for me too. My abuser did some fucked up shit to me. I don't know how to describe to you the strange feelings I'm left with now. Sometimes I think I finally hate her, sometimes, as pathetic as it makes me feel, I still miss her. It's a rot in you that never really goes away, but you learn to live with it. I understand that agony. I understand that anger of how fucking unfair it is.
You know my opinion of Lily. You're not going to trust me that I'm not saying all this just to get you two to break up to hurt her. Fair. Very fair, not going to pretend like it's not. But if Lily loves you, nothing I'm about to say should be an issue. She should want what's best for you, right?
Here's the rub Mikaila, it's been a few years now. I know you want out of your situation at home, but it doesn't seem like Lily's going to be able to help you with that at this point. I'm sure Lily's given you plenty of reasons as to why, and it's time to listen to her.
If you're heart's set on coming to Canada, your best bet is getting a job here. Or even, going to school. Art degrees (Here in Canada) aren't as expensive, provided you go to the right school. Even taking out a student loan for just one year to figure your shit out. I know you're in quite a bit of debt right now and don't want to get into more, but. You gotta do what you gotta do.
Here's the college I went to. Yes, your work is sufficient to potentially get admitted. Believe it or not, art school's get that illustration is a learned skill. Artists start from all different levels:
Look through the admissions requirements to see if you have the academic records to be admitted. If not, you could also consider upgrading through online classes aswell.
Again though, your best bet is to try to find employment. The cost of living isn't great here right now, but it isn't great anywhere. I doubt you'll be able to find cheaper rent in America.
Once you're here or wherever you end up, away from the chaos of your home, you might find it a lot easier to get your head around, establishing some better independence and becoming a citizen by yourself. It's a shitty process, but not as bad as the one you guys have in the States. We stan an immigrant here.
You need to look out for you, Mikaila. It's not selfish. It's not a matter of whether you "really deserve it or not." Nobody's going to save you. You're emotionally spent because of your parents, You're emotionally spent because of Lily. And it feels kind of nice how much Lily needs you. But you can't help her until you help yourself - and again, if we're all wrong and Lily really loves you, she shouldn't have a problem with you finding your way.
My own mother once told me I was "born sad." I've never not hated myself. I ate up any little bit of love and validation no matter how many bitter, razor pills that came with it too. That's just how it is for some of us.
But you know what Mikaila? Fuck em. Fuck all of them. Fuck everything. Fuck me, Mikaila. You've got one life. One body. One you. Whatever you think of her, someone's gotta fight for that poor bitch. Why not you fight for you?
Everyone's a stinky meat bag stripped down, Mikaila. Everyone's made a fool in the wake of the shit people like you and I have been through. Not everyone's going to be able to forgive everything, but everyone's not wholly past forgiveness.
I'm no better than you Mikaila. Nobody is. Some of us just get to know the worst sides of ourselves better than others.
I don't like some of the things you've done, girl. But I see you. I get it. Tell us all to eat shit. Fix your life. Don't rely on Lily to make you feel whole or to save you. To make you feel worthy. No person can do that. She could be the reincarnation of Mary Mother of God herself, and you couldn't expect that from her. Be your own advocate. If your relationship isn't toxic, it can survive you becoming a more whole you.
This asshole is rooting for you. Give me an excuse to undoomer "Mikailer." My girl needs a win.
#lily orchard#lily orchard critical#anti lily orchard#lily peet#lily orchard stuff#lorch posting#youtube#liquid orcard#eldritch lily#mikaila orchard
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Typical lily and mikaila interaction be like
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Okay so hot take but maybe “I fucking hate your guts but possibly I wouldn’t if you decide to leave your abuser!!!” was not the best way to try to get Mikaila to leave her relationship just saying
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Regarding Lily and her oc Aliana, I also remember when she would defend her oc by saying "I have black friends and they said there's nothing wrong with how I've written my oc, therefore it's fine" as if her black friends represent every black person. As well as not understanding that as her friends, maybe they'd soften any criticism so as to not hurt her feelings. I for one was always annoyed by how she AND MO would whip out the "you just hate black women" card whenever Aliana was criticized, even if it was her actions being criticized and nothing at all to do with her gender or race.
There are far more black oc that are far better than Aliana that were made by far more talented people.
When you're writing a character or a story, you don't ask your friends and family if it's good. Your family is going to be biased, and so will friends. She could have hired a sensitivity writer. go on forums. Hell, she could have just looked it up, but no, instead, she asked her all of two black friends if Aliana was an okay depiction.
Both MO and Lily are white women, and the fact that they're telling everyone else who doesn't like Aliana is just being racist is laughable at best and just blatantly ignorant at worst.
When Lily said. "I asked my black friends, and they said it was fine." Is the same as "I can't be racist I have black friends."
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The feck is this?
No seriously whats this supposed to be?
God damn lady you couldn't even do a brick texture or something they are just hovering on a platform in the purple void?
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Mikaila Orchard's permanent residence application went through.
That's pretty much it, not worth clipping the stream portion where they said it but Mikaila is finally moving in with Lily. Idk if she's moving in on Christmas or not but yeah. They will be living together now. Godspeed Mikaila.
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Apparently Lily yelled at her wife about the squeking chair in the latest stream? Do you have a clip of that? She apparently also flirted with another woman in the same stream.
Got it. Lily gets told her wife is having a bad day. Squawks at her for making noise and then wonders why they are mad at her later on. Gee Lily. It's a mystery. All for chess. With Lolo.
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So uhh...about this person Mikaila...
So I saw that Mikaila reblogged a post from this artist that I completely blanked out on remembering who they were as they were talking about a pro LGBTQ+ awareness holiday. The only thing I knew that they're name was Sophie Labelle aka AssignedMale and that they were an artist.
Then I looked up and researched who they were and...
I'm gonna drop the pretenses and say that Sophie is not only a VERY controversial person in the furry community, but has also been very guilty of a BUNCH of disgusting things involving their art. Especially with what they used to reference in their drawings.
I had to crop out the full image of this Facebook post calling out Sophie because I am not stupid enough to showing what they used to reference cause the text says enough and I'm pretty sure Tumblr would nuke my account if I did cause I sure it's against ToS. I dunno if Sophie has ever addressed this post, but I wouldn't be surprised if they had to discuss the allegations even though the evidence is pretty much not in their favor.
I know some people go on a stigma on the whole kink shaming or don't kink shame thing, but the fact the whole diaper fur or whatever you call it is frowned upon in half of the furry community and it's VERY frowned upon outside of the community. Maybe pulling the transphobia card while drawing and defending your kink is honestly not the best thing to do, especially when you assume that everyone is acting in bad faith in you when the evidence is stacked against you. And I usually could fucking care less about kink shaming. And that's from someone like me who's part of the LGBTQ+ community and a strong supporter too.
On a slight but similar tangent, seeing Mikaila do this reminds me of when Frogan saw an article seeing Daniel Larson getting arrested and charged with threatening to bomb the White House and wanting him set free and not knowing he's been in prison for REALLY awful things. Like not doing basic research on a person so they don't end up being a very controversial and widely disliked person.
So yeah, reminded me of that.
I truly wonder how often Mikaila and Lily have defended, followed, or befriended people who are either problematic or are very infamous for the actions or words they have said to garner it. Cause there have been a few examples including Sophie here.
Cause honestly, blindly supporting someone who has a very infamous reputation once or even twice is bad. But when you constantly supported or defended someone who's very infamous, you are gonna get a lot of people questioning you for why you would align yourself with them, especially when you are friends or talk to them a bunch. You are gonna start having people cut ties with you cause some people are not gonna take it lightly anymore.
But seriously, having someone like Sophie involved with you in anyway is not going to make you look good in anyway and it will make things worse and will damage your reputation. Plus, your credibility as well as someone like Mikaila whose an artist and Lily as a content creator on YouTube.
To everyone, always be aware of the people who support you or vice versa that have some kind of big following cause you will never know if they might be liked or disliked as a person and if they are truly good or bad people themselves. Always try to be self-aware about yourselves when it comes to stuff like this.
Don't repeat what Mikaila and Lily do.
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