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On the subject of "should we talk about Lily's terrible media takes or focus on her terrible actions?" I think it might be worth considering the degree to which she uses her videos to cultivate and maintain an audience that will provide cover for her actions, supply her with more potential victims, and even attack those who speak out against her. And breaking down the ways her videos accomplish this is perhaps valuable.

It is, but people don't want to talk about that. They want to focus on the accusations 100% of the time and that, in my opinion, is a very good way to get people to stop listening to you. Repeating yourself till you're hoarse and not expanding the discussion in any way will always end with people getting put off by it one way or another.

They just see it as a shield Lily uses.

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BREAKING NEWS!

Up and coming YouTuber CD-Call admits to being...

LILY ORCHARD!?

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I find it kind of funny that human babies are so fragile and helpless and useless that natural selection went like HARD-hard on humans finding babies cute. This thing is a wailing messy resource sinkhole so please find other reason to enjoy it. And the humans that did find baby cute and invest time in them, the crazy bastards?? Lived!!

And now there’s so much spill-over from “baby cute” gene that humans see literally any “baby” creature that even slightly resembles us, like

and we’re like 😍🥰🤩🥺🥺🥺 I wanna love you so bad. I wanna make so many images of you, you are so small, just baby. I’m inventing new emotions as we speak bc I love you so much.

Like, I’m almost convinced humans didn’t even domesticate dogs bc we thought they’d be useful, we saw some puppies and it activated our Big Boi Primate Baby buttons, it wasn’t even logic time baby, it was 🥺 time.

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wow! your understanding of this character is so. . . Unique! just wondering by the way but when was the last time you directly interacted with the source media

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What I love about studios coming to you for your IP instead of you pitching around is that you don’t have to fight or convince them to let you make your characters to be gay. They just are. They can either take it or leave it. Was that ever a concern for you if you were to pitch it before everything blew up and opened so many doors for you or do you reckon as someone in the industry that it might not have been as much a problem as I’m making it out to be lol

It could still be an issue. Most of this stuff is handled in the development process or as the show's being made, not the pitch. When working with a studio (a bigger one at least) contracts usually make the characters and the IP effectively theirs and they're allowed to have input and change things along the way. That's why it's good to have a good lawyer and/or creative reps when going into deals to advocate for you and get you as much creative control as possible. But it is a hard thing to negotiate for.

Them approaching me does give me slightly more leverage to negotiate, as I can argue that the ship and the characters' relationships are a big draw of the series and I can attribute its success to that but it's not guaranteed.

Another reason I'm so passionate about pitching this series as TV14/PG13 is because it's much easier to sell an LGBTQ story in that age range than it is a children's series. It's part of why I had cussing in the pilot. I wanted to make it as clear as possible that this wasn't ever intended to be the a children's show. Cussing was the most effective way to do it without changing the story since the pilot is simple and doesn't get particularly violent (which would be the main reason this show would be more geared towards teens. i mean my first drawing of aika was her with a gun so LOL). Despite not planning on doing more I did wanna have that foresight just in case! And it's working so far, as I have largely only been reached out to by studios' adult departments and the LGBT aspect of it has either been outright celebrated or hasn't been a point of contention at all. I'd only consider aging down if I knew keeping the LGBTQ themes was guaranteed.

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REMINDER... Rapunzel and Cassandra are actually 1 for 1 comparisons to Adora and Catra because Shadow Weaver KIDNAPPED adora to use her.

She put Adora and Catra against each other as children to further a divide between them but despite that, they both loved each other.

They both realized Shadow Weaver was toxic. And Catra redeemed herself eventually and made up for her past actions.

Saying that they're sisters is erasure of a sapphic relationship because you didn't like how it was written.

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I'm glad y'all are curious about this project, what I intend to do with it and where I want it to go! But even if I wanted to tell you I couldn't LOL. That stuff's always super NDA and also VERY slow. Development usually takes anywhere from a year to five years before actual production on anything even begins. Even getting a contract drafted for an offer can take about a month (not including the negotiating and the back and forth that happens). Just trust that when I have something to announce, then I'll announce it 🤙🏾

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Dancing Lumity

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Lily in a nutshell

Yes.

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Another level to Lily’s bias towards certain shows goes beyond personal taste. In certain cases, it boils down to how Lily feels towards certain people. Allegedly, her hatred for Steven Universe stems from the fact that she had an ex friend (Or relationship?) with someone who loved it. Supposedly she hates Bojack Horseman and Breaking Bad because ex friends love them, and apparently never watched either show because of it. And, in the inverse, she started praising Hazbin Hotel after KP publicly ended their friendship, all because a particular cog in that show’s machine was abusive to her. In that last instance, Lily didn’t cover the show out of respect to KP, but felt like there was no need for respect because that friendship is over.

It shows an extra set of pettiness that Lily functions her opinions and reviews based off of how she feels about a certain person, not so much about how she feels towards the show.

This definitely tracks with Lily’s pattern of letting personal grudges dictate her critiques, rather than forming actual, independent opinions about media. She wants to present herself as a cold, logical critic who judges shows purely on merit, but time and time again, we’ve seen that her feelings toward people directly influence her opinions on art. If someone she dislikes enjoys something? It’s trash. If someone she hates is involved in something? It’s irredeemable. But if someone she’s feuding with hates a particular work, suddenly that piece of media is worth praising.

This tells us so much about how Lily operates. Her opinions aren’t based on careful analysis, research, or even genuine personal taste—they’re based on who she’s mad at that week. If she actually cared about the quality of media, she wouldn’t let grudges dictate her critiques. But she does. Because for Lily, it’s not about media—it’s about control, spite, and settling personal scores.

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Eye Level

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Positive videos

Thought I might post some positive videos the next little while. Nothing big, just little shorts/videos that make me smile.

That's what James at NotoriousCree does for me. Just makes me smile. Often funny, interesting, thoughtful, educational and always, always positive.

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I feel like something could be said about how Lily’s criticism works best with media for children. More specifically, media made for the children of the current generation. If she talks about something people have grown up with or keeps digging at a piece of media that people grew out of, she’s dealing with adults who know that media inside and out, experienced its highs and lows, and matured long enough to form their own opinion. So to have this woman come in and say, “This sucks, actually,” she gets adults coming in and saying, “YOU suck, actually.” And goodness forbids she talks about media made FOR adults, because that results in her getting laughed out of the room. Like with her infamous (And I think deleted) Delicious in Dungeon review or her embarrassing play through of Dragon Age. The adults weren’t buying what she’s selling, and that’s why she focused on kids. Children are young and impressionable, looking for stuff about their favorite media. Here comes this adult talking with absolute certainty and helping form their media beliefs. It’s why Lily runs into trouble when the kids who disagree with her grew up and know exactly how Lily was wrong. I remember seeing someone on the Owl House subreddit posting a screenshot of one of Lily’s videos on the show and already dreading it. It reads as someone who KNOWS what Lily gets into with popular media of the time and expects her to bash someone’s favorite thing. But if it’s someone who doesn’t know her…

Lily hinges her career on people too young to know her and to know BETTER. It’s why she sticks to children’s media that’s popular enough to help her gain more of an audience. It’s why she rebrands herself so people can know her as CD-Call instead of the Lily Orchard that people have learned to hate. And it’s why she’s continually growing into obscurity, because she doesn’t grow up with her audience and chooses to stay as the same ignorant person that the rest of the internet is sick of.

This is an insightful take, and it really taps into how calculated Lily’s content strategy is — even if it’s not as deliberate as she might think.

Lily’s criticism thrives when she’s talking about current children’s media because that’s where she can assert herself as an "authority" to an audience that’s impressionable and eager to form opinions. When she critiques shows like The Owl House, Steven Universe, or Amphibia, she’s engaging with a demographic that’s often too young to have developed strong media literacy yet. Kids and younger teens might not know how to spot weak arguments or manipulative rhetoric, so they’re more likely to take her bombastic claims at face value.

Lily’s loud, confident delivery — combined with her tendency to present subjective opinions as objective fact — makes her especially influential to viewers who haven’t yet learned to separate strong critique from shallow contrarianism. If she insists “This show is bad because X, Y, and Z,” younger viewers are more likely to internalize that without questioning her logic.

But when Lily steps outside that comfort zone? The cracks in her façade become obvious.

When she criticizes media that adults have had years to reflect on, those viewers are far less likely to be swayed by her shallow, surface-level critiques. Adults who grew up with older media have had time to analyze and understand its strengths and weaknesses. So when Lily barges in with a smug, dismissive attitude — often reducing complex narratives to simplistic talking points — people who really know that media aren’t going to fall for her act. That’s why her takes on older shows or games tend to backfire; she can’t rely on the same smoke-and-mirrors tactics that work on younger audiences.

And when it comes to media for adults? That’s where Lily’s lack of nuance becomes downright embarrassing. Adults watching adult content tend to expect more complexity — in storytelling, themes, and even critique. But Lily’s rigid, black-and-white thinking doesn’t allow her to engage with that complexity. Instead, she resorts to surface-level nitpicking, often missing the point entirely. This is why her Delicious in Dungeon review flopped so hard and why her Dragon Age playthrough was a trainwreck. She couldn’t keep up with the layered writing, narrative depth, or subtext — because she’s simply not equipped to analyze them.

This ties directly into Lily’s tendency to avoid introspection or growth. Instead of learning to engage with more complex material or sharpening her analysis skills, she doubles down on what’s easiest — children’s media that’s accessible enough for her to feel like she’s an expert. But the problem with hinging her career on kids’ media is that kids grow up.

Those younger fans who once hung on her every word eventually gain the experience and critical thinking skills to see through her manipulations. They start to recognize the patterns — the lazy arguments, the emotional manipulation, the blatant misinformation — and many of them outgrow her. That’s why Lily’s content is stuck in this repetitive cycle: she bashes the current “big” kids’ show, draws in a fresh wave of younger viewers, alienates them as they grow older, and then pivots to another piece of trendy media to start the cycle again.

Her rebranding as CD-Call is a clear attempt to outrun her own reputation — to detach herself from the “Lily Orchard” name that’s become infamous for toxicity and manipulation. But no matter how many fresh starts she tries, the truth keeps catching up with her. Because while her audience grows up, Lily refuses to. She's stuck in the same shallow, reactive mindset — obsessed with “owning” her critics and controlling the narrative rather than engaging with media (or people) in good faith.

That’s why her relevance is fading. Without the ability to evolve her content, reflect on her mistakes, or genuinely engage with new ideas, Lily’s tactics are becoming more transparent — and her influence is steadily shrinking as a result.

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This is just speculation, but my take is that this is somewhat performative on CD's part.

People who found the ship abusive weren't as vocal about it until later seasons and I think this may be CD jumping on the bandwagon once that started. Whether this happened because those people were shouted down more by the shippers in the beginning or if it's because things grew more intense the longer the show went on I can't personally say. I didn't see a lot of it here on tumblr or on twitter at the time, but I wasn't in as many fan spaces with She-ra as I have been with other shows. I have heard that complaint, though.

Whether that was the reason or not, she cannot claim the show changed how physical these two characters were with each other as the show went on. Catra tasers Adora twice in the opening two-parter and almost goes in a third time. The two physically push and shove each other while trying to take over the skiff when they cause it to crash. Catra shows up late for the simulation they fight in, let's Adora and the others "do all the hard parts," then mocks Adora when she ends up hanging over a pit...and that's her introduction.

Most of the complaining about the show ramped up after it's end and that's when CD started complaining about it more. I will say that a lot of the clips she shows to show the abuse are actually from the first season.

Has Lily ever stated why she finds She-Ra so triggering? I don’t want to diminish people’s traumas if they have them but it’s Lily we’re talking about. There’s something about her claiming the show gives her anxiety attacks that feels…performative? Idk

As far as I’m aware, she’s just said that Catradora reminds her of Courtney.

And I’m inclined to agree with you on her aversion being performative, considering this was Lily’s initial impression towards the ship.

She thought they were adorable. She was looking forward to their possible relationship. Reminder, she had seen the entirety of the first season at this point. Actually, her very next video goes further on to discuss her actually gripes with this ship.

It wasn’t confirmed yet. That’s it. She said absolutely zero things about them being sisters or possibly abusive—she just complained the writer’s weren’t committing yet. In the first season.

Honestly, I’m not sure how she went from this to this.

Her beef with the show started way before Courtney ever came into the picture. I’m not 100% sure what soured her to it, besides the slow burn and the show getting more high-stakes than she prefers, but it’s obvious the incest aspect was never a factor and is entirely bullshit on her part. She clearly didn’t have issues with that in the first season.