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Okay, I'll play.

I'm going to address something else first, but starting at where the word Also is in bold, I'll be giving some examples to counter whether or not they were "allowed" to do those videos.

Let's pretend anon's assumption is correct and Lily is getting more heat for her video, could there be any other reason for this besides the fandom not batting an eye and whatever other nonsense Lily is trying to apply. (Lily, you're covertly calling folks you don't like Nazis and Nazi sympathizers again. We've talked about how this is holocaust denial.)

What could be some other reasons this may have happened, I wonder?

Maybe age of the videos? Let's see. Lily's SU video is 6 years old. EZ's is 7 years old. E;R doesn't have an SU video younger than 8 years old. So, yes, Lily's came out later and may have been easier to find.

How about how many people have watched the videos? E;R has a few videos. The highest is at 1.2M. EZ's video is at 3.1M. Lily's is at 8.8M. More people have seen Lily's video.

Output? Lily makes a video every few weeks to a month. E;R is closest to that, still being active and making them every 3 to 6 months, most of which clock in under 15 minutes. EZ hasn't made a new video in two years and sometimes took year-long breaks between videos before that. So, it's more likely someone might go to Lily's channel to watch something else, then decide to check out her main SU video.

I suppose I could count the number of videos they made or even how many times they made SU videos, but I don't think that would add anything.

Some other things to consider.

Let's be honest. Lily's title is better. EZ's video is close with "A garbage show for garbage people," but it doesn't hit as hard. Lily knew whose title style to steal.

Of course, if you type Steven Universe criticism in the youtube search bar, Lily's is listed first, so that's more exposure, too.

Any one of these, even on their own, could lead to more people being sent to, and therefore watching Lily's video and would be a reason her video gets more scrutiny.

In addition, Lily, by virtue of using terms and ideas more common on the left, appeals to a different audience than the other two people making these videos. Most of the people watching Lily's video may never have seen the other videos because of that. They might be more sensitive or, at least, more concerned with certain things that were said than another audience would be. Hell, they may have turned off the other videos at the first sign of them being bigoted.

Also, anon? The word Allowed would like to talk to a union rep, because it's doing nearly all the work in that sentence. I hate to break it to you, but you can't tell people not to be a bigot and have them just not do it anymore. The best you can do is point it out, talk about it, and warn others. I took your ask in the best possible faith and assumed that you meant we are doing that only to Lily.

But it has been done with those other videos. Hiding In Private did separate videos on E;R and on EZPZ. In fact, the one on EZPZ came out before the video dissecting Lily's video. Not their fault if you only know about the Lily one.

Here is a reddit thread talking about the other two, but not Lily.

Here is a youtuber talking about Lily's video last month. Here the same youtuber is talking about EZPZ's video four years ago!

Here's another youtuber also talking about EZ.

I've seen several other tumblr post or streamers or youtubers talking more generally about Steven Universe criticism and mention E;R and, especially EZ. Sometimes they don't mention Lily at all!!!

If anything EZ's video seems to be the one most talked about. It's quite possible, anon, that because you are a Lily fan, you are simply noticing the critics who talk about here more often.

Your asks also assumes that any one who is not dismissed as a "dumb chud" will be raked over the coals for their Steven Universe critiques.

Here's Uncivilized Elk, an actual fan, being critical of the movie. Positive comments, seems to be doing fine.

Here are videos by Jay Exci being critical of both the show and the movie. Again, agreeable comments. No negative effects.

So, maybe, people are taking umbrage at the things actually said in Lily's video and the way they were framed. Maybe it was just the way Lily comes off as someone who cares more about attacking the show and the creator then giving actual critique.

Sure, some people may already know something about Lily's rep at this point and come in with a pre-conceived idea of what to expect. The video's more than half-a-decade old and it tends to come up in discourse about the criticism leveled at the show. It was also, the hot video on the subject right at the time those criticisms were most common. People have heard of her and the video and may already have an idea of what to expect.

Still on Lily for meeting those expectations and being even worse then they assumed in some cases, though.

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Can you please reblog if your blog is a safe place for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, asexual, aromantic, pansexual, non binary, demisexual or any other kind of queer or questioning people? Because mine is.

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Really interesting thing I glimpsed on rednote today

I think We- we’re developing international class consciousness 

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Shadiversity is a controversial figure on YouTube. Once loved as a medievalist weapons historian, now he's become known as a right wing clown. But recently, he started a fight against James Gunn's Superman.

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Don't fall for it

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I personally still feel like we breezed over the fact that Lily called Pink Diamond/Rose Quartz, a character created by a Jewish non-binary artist, “Stella Kübler” in a way that DEFINITELY reads like calling her a Jewish Uncle Tom

You are NEVER beating the antisemitism allegations Lily Jesus Fucking Christ

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Racists don't make raging and obvious racist post on social media. They use dogwhistles and promote systematic ideas and stereotypes that harm minorities.

I've been posting this about Lily's videos for months. She continuously references Nazis either using the word itself or comparing someone, usually fictional, to a specific and well-known Nazi. This is holocaust denial/distortion.

In the past, she compared Rebecca Sugar, a Jewish creator, to a disease. This is something the Nazis did in their propaganda. This is also another example of holocaust denial/distortion.

Both examples promote antisemitism.

As @that-one-kiddo-in-the-back mentions she fetishes black characters. She further promotes the stereotype of female people of color having to always be strong with her video about Korra and when talking about Luz from The Owl House.

She promotes negative Japanese stereotypes by calling nearly all anime weird and fetishistic. She seems incapable of even talking positively about the few anime she enjoys without taking a shot at the industry and the country it comes from. At the same time, she refuses to acknowledge the differences in language and culture that do exist and add context to those properties.

There are, of course, many more examples.

Taken in isolation, individual jokes and references could be seen as simply a cringe effort to be edgy, but there is a clear and dangerous pattern happening here. I don't think she's made a Dragon Age video yet without a Nazi reference of some kind, for instance.

Recently, she removed something from one of her Dragon Age videos. Originally, she made a joke about one of the elf characters probably liking to be called "knife-ear," and in-game racial insult, in bed. One of her fans had to point out that being called racial slurs during sexual situations is something negative that happens to real world people of color. Because it was a fan, she removed the joke.

Wish her fans would ask her not to make so many Nazi and Japanese jokes.

Do you smell that?

Hmm smells like...

She has all of ONE black character that she's calling "the dark lady of the sith." And fetishistizing any other black character.

And her hiccups she's doesn't explain or apologizes for she just says "I did that a long time ago."

Something about people who are racist is that they don't know they're racist. Just because she doesn't call black people the N word (anymore) doesn't mean she hasn't done anything racist. Lily is racist to Asians, Jewish, and black people. Either this anon is stupid...or is also really racist.

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We’ll never die

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Lily Orchard's "harassment video" [tag] 00:00 - 01:35

First item on the list: wow, way to be rude right from the beginning by telling people who are easily bored to go jingle their father's keys to amuse themselves. This reminds me of the time Lily was ablest against people with ADHD, which is ironic from her due to her claims to having it and being medicated for it, and before she was medicated, she was just as much of an asshole against other people with the same condition she has.

Funny that this is your choice of starting something that's serious, only to turn around and get on Courtney's ass for not taking something that's supposed to be serious seriously, more context on this later.

Second, out of the videos that you've shown as examples for being criticized for being negative...

You're close, but only two that you've mentioned are near the top of the list, and one doesn't even show up.

Heck, only one is part of the top five, and most of the top five center around Steven Universe, the only exceptions being the Pokemon video and The Coffin of Andy and Leyley.

Then again, there's a chance that this has to do with the backlash Lily received for the original Dungeon Meshi video. When the original was deleted and re-uploaded, it's possible that it removed all the views it had received before then and likely not recovering due to the nature of the backlash compelling enough people to not engage with it ever again.

As for the rest of the clip, pay attention to how Lily Orchard talks about her behavior as strange and erratic and therefore being weaponized against her. While I do agree that Lily Orchard's behavior is, in fact, strange and erratic, the way she talks about it at the beginning gives the impression that she's trying to void herself of any responsibility for her actions, or at least dilute them to the point where a flimsy apology with no action behind them seems okay in Lily's book.

If Lily Orchard didn't experience any kind of significant healing until she was 28 years old, why is she still telling people on an almost frequent basis that they should engage in s☠️lf-h☠️rm and commit s💀?

If the prelude to this video isn't, "It's not my fault that I behave the way I do," I don't know what is.

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david lynch telling people in 2017 that you should accept trans people or kill yourself. he was so real for this.

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Weekly Reminder, cause some of y’all think the pedophilia allegations are debatable and wanna conveniently forget all the other shit Lily’s done.

Lily has lied about having cancer. I do not understand why people keep ignoring that—even if she wasn’t incredibly creepy about siblings and underage characters—lying about having fucking cancer should’ve been enough for everyone to realize she’s a piece of shit who lies for attention. But nooooo.

Lily has been rampantly racist against Japanese people, against black people (2)(3), against Jewish people, Asians in general honestly (2), even against Native Americans—who she self-identifies as. There’s dozens more recorded instances of her casual bigotry, but we’d be here all day if I tried listing them.

Lily has been frequently inconsistent with her autism diagnosis, and uses abhorrently ableist language to insult her detractors. She won’t say the r-word, but she’ll call people “Thalidomide babies” and say they have FAS and Down Syndrome. How progressive.

Lily has lied about her education. This isn’t as damning, but in a professional setting she would have been immediately fired and blacklisted.

Lily made up an entire person to sexually harass, catfish, and manipulate her friends. There’s numerous bits of evidence proving Tara Callie never existed, but not once has Lily ever tried to prove she was real outside of saying “because I said so.”

Y’all need to stop pretending the pedophilia allegations are the only thing people in the LO Crit Sphere have against her (and are just pedo-jacketing a trans woman). Lily has always been abhorrent, before the SU video, before she came out as trans, Lily Orchard has been a liar, a manipulator, and overall a shitty person.

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did you guys see the poem from a couple of days ago in poetry dot org’s daily poem it was so good and a treat to read 

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Let's get this out of the way first: "I mean, that's not really irony, it's just completely expected and sad."

No. That actually is irony. People becoming obsessed with a game that specifically tells them not to do that? Yeah, irony. Which, I feel was kind of the joke. They knew people would do that and made a little funny of it. That was the whole point.

Now this:

"This is what fans have always done. Completely miss the point, strip the themes and message out of something, and turn it into yet another sandbox for fanworks. Wringing every last ounce of content out of something as quickly as possibleand completely cannibalizing it."

This is about AU fan fiction. Another asks/answer confirms this a few posts later.

Lily, your Star Wars AU completely changes the canon characters you mention and strips the universe it takes place in of every nuance. You really shouldn't be the one complaining about this.

While people do make fan fiction to fill in gaps or to change something in a narrative to something they like more or just to explore what could have happened differently, those aren't the only reasons for doing so. Personally I love to read/write AUs that take place after the story has ended. Especially when I'm satisfied with the ending. I feel like the story is complete, so now we can go on new adventures with characters we already love.

It's fun.

If I wanted to read or write AUs about The Owl House, for instance, I'd want stories about Luz, Eda, Ed, and Gus and Wild Magic courses at the university; about Amity inventing abomination gadgets and going off on little trips to pick up antiquities for Lilith's museum; about Raine, Darius, Steve and others working to rebuild the isles; and about King learning more about his powers.

There are always more stories to tell and AU's are a great way to tell them. This is why you got that second ask defending them. Intentional or not, you sound like you are against people taking characters, events and settings from something they clearly love and doing something different with them. Since, this is pretty much what AU's are, it comes off as you not liking AUs.

So, I think you are the one your little graphic is talking about:

Link to the mentioned second post.