#menoa and morphomon

[digi-lov]

Menoa Bellucci BT17-092 Alternative Art, Morphomon BT17-044, Eosmon BT17-074, Eosmon BT17-075, and Eosmon BT17-076 by Spareribs from BT-17 Booster Secret Crisis

[animalinvestigator]

watched kizuna finally its good

[digitalgate02]

The UPDATED (OG) Adventure universe’s Partnership double year math count

Updated Digimon Adventure OG Timeline’s Partnership Math Count List 

Not particularly spoilers from the movie, just stuff stated by the official timeline from the pre-release stream for the movie in Japan (Oct 26)

Early 80s - Oikawa Yukio & Hida Hiroki make the first contact with the Digital World, befriend Pipimon (no partnerships)

1995 - Hikari and Taichi find a Koromon egg* (no partnerships)

1996 - 2 (Rui; someone else gets a digimon later in that year*)

1997 - 4 (Menoa)

1998 - 8 (Possibly the previous 5 mentioned from Adv’99 anime/novels)

1999 - 16 (Adv Eight, Meiko*)

2000 - 32 (Ken*)

2001 - 64 (Michael)

2002 - 128 (Daisuke, Miyako, Iori)

2003 - 256

2004 - 512

2005 - 1,024

2006 - 2,048

2007 - 4,096

2008 - 8,192

2009 - 16,384

2010 - 32,768

2011 - 65,536

2012 - 131,072

2013 - 262,144

2014 - 524,288

2015 - 1.048,576

2016 - 2.097,152

2017 - 4.194,304

2018 - 8.388,608

2019 - 16.777,216

2020 - 33.554,432

2021 - 67.108,864

2022 - 134.217,728

2023 - 268.435,456

2024 - 536.870,912

2025 - 1.073.741,824

2026 - 2.147.483,648

2027 -  4.294.967,296

2028 (02 Epilogue) - 8.589.934,592

↓ Original notes + "Why there's still no retcon of the lore" below ↓

First, the OG notes from the outdated post:

→ This count is not about “which was the very first digimon-human contact”, and yes about people with a digivice. Because if we were going to count who was the first human to have contact with a digimon, it’s actually two and they’re Oikawa Yukio and Iori’s dad, Hida Hiroki.

→ I’m ignoring all the inconsistencies with other material (WS & ▽) because they seem to not match well with the original count. So, in this case, Ken’s statement in the anime (Aug 2000) is the one to be accounted for here. I don’t know if Ryo counts as Chosen (possibly yes, judging by 02 flashbacks) but I’m not sure where to place him here.

→ I’m only adding Michael to the count, even if he’s not a main character and yes a side character, because 02 ep 14 had this statement regarding him. And I like Michael too so, let me have him there :V

→ Menoa states in the movie she met Morphomon when she was nine, and according to the Dash X novel version, she’s the same age as Taichi. Which means she became a Chosen in 1997.

→ I couldn’t think of how to include Maki & Daigo’s group in this because ▽ contradicts with the original lore’s math – The fact the Pt4 book released with the movie on Japanese theaters state them being in Elementary School the time they went to their adventure in the DW, and later the confession scene means they’re in University/College makes them possibly been Chosen Children way before 1995, and I’d take it granted that they were chosen by someone else IF weren’t for the Homeostasis being involved in the scene and the digivice being way too modern for that time (it was basically Taichi group’s model. If you look at Rui’s digivice in the leaked footage from DigiFes2022, his model seems to be different and an older version)

→ That said, Meiko is the only character in ▽ that does not fall into contradiction with the math count. Because in 1999 there was not only Taichi’s group, but also other 8 non-featured Chosen according to Kakudou’s notes. So we can consider Meiko one of those other 8 children.

→ When it comes to Wallace, I prefer to think he is game in the original math – Taichi and Hikari met that Koromon in 95, but they had no digivice until 1999. Which means it can be possible that Wallace had encountered Gummy-Choco’s egg before 1995 and only became an official Chosen Child later.

Now, the new notes:

→ To avoid spoiling any detail about the movie itself, I’ll make sure to tell you they might have changed how the math works only. It’s not like, “everyone gets a digimon at the same time” but rather… “A X number of people get partnered with a digimon in different periods of a year” – Which means yes, you can still count Rui and Ukkomon as the origins of the Digimon partnership, but that later in the same year someone else (or, say, Wallace in the main timeline) got a partner months later.

→ That said, I’m opting to update this list and work within the idea that various sources of partnership (Homeostasis, Holy Beasts, etc) can be counted in the math. Remember – Homeostasis (not referred to as this in the OG series but yes in the novels) had selected Taichi & co., but the Holy Beasts chose Dai-Miya-Iori. And some other entity probably chose Ken in August 2000. This could explain why there’s a higher number of partnerships happening at the same time in Adv’99 and 02.

→ As I mentioned before, and indirectly supported by the staff (check the official timeline at the top of the list), ▽ has violated the lore to the point it goes in direct conflict with the new 02 movie and the entire timeline. So I guess it’s better to consider ▽ as its own timeline/Alternate universe than forcing it into the main timeline.

→ That said, and since Meiko does exist in Kizuna/main timeline, I suppose Maki and Daigo also do exist, and maybe they got their “ages” retconned and down to something suitable to the universe’s math count. They can still be part of the previous five kids mentioned in Adv’99 anime/novels, but they are probably around their teen years, or even early 20s instead, not fully adults working for the government I suppose. Or alternatively, just not Chosen yet. Pick your favorite route, Maki/Daigo fans!!

→ Yes, the Koromon from the very first movie IS NOT THE SAME PARTNERED WITH TAICHI. This never was confirmed, and was just fandom's theory. Considering how ▽ also made this mistake and possibly was one of the lore's violation, I prefer to believe this means it's not the same Koromon/Agumon partnered with Taichi in Adv'99.

[firedragon1321]

I just remembered Kurata exists and I realized something.

This living turd-pile is the only human antagonist in the Digimon anime who is 100% genuinely evil beginning to end, without having any real motivation or the excuse of possession/control.

Ken was possessed by a Dark Spore, is still beating himself up over his actions

Oikawa was Myotismon’s puppet

Maki descends through several levels of crazy, but she’s understandable until she begs Tapirmon to remember her. She’s the only one on this list who comes close to Kurata’s level of pure evil madness- and he’s still more evil.

Evil Gennai is technically a digital construct, not a human. He's the same breed as regular Gennai.

Menoa was just trying to get Morphomon back- doesn’t excuse her actions, but she’s not E V I L. Still more sympathetic than Maki imo because she knew she fucked up in the end.

Yamaki and Hypnos swapped sides and helped the Tamers

Tommy’s bullies (not even real villains) realized they were being assholes and became his friends

Koichi was forced to become evil after that fall down the stairs, and that was fixed after a few episodes

Keenan turned good and assisted the main heroes

The Bio-Hybrids ended up lending their power to help defeat King Drasil, implying they turned good (though the epilogue implied Kouki is still a bit of an asshole)

I forget how villainous Nene was, but she and Christopher join Taiki

Ewan (dub name of Yuu) is Ken 2.0

Ryouma was controlled by Astamon, Airu worked with the heroes quite a few times, and Ren swaps sides despite not changing much personality-wise (thanks TVtropes- I’m not super familiar with YH)

Yuujin is technically a robot

Everyone on Ghost Game got controlled or possessed at least three times

DATS as an institution was always morally ambiguous to me. I found it odd that a Digimon’s only options if they just got lost in the Real World were to partner to a human (specifically from DATS) or get reverted to a DigiEgg. As a kid, it also bugged me how Keenan was treated until he swapped sides. But since they’re presented as “the good guys”- and Kurata is ten hundred times worse- I won’t count them for this.

Kurata is just here for Digimon genocide. No possession. No motive (except a thinly veiled excuse). Just Digimon death. He sucks. I love to hate him.

[csolarstorm]

Thoughts on: Digimon: The Last Evolution Kizuna (and 02 musings)

Tomorrow I'm going to go see Digimon 02: The Beginning in the theater! I'm so glad I decided to do this. It's been a while since I got out and did something, and the timing is perfect to see my favorite Digimon team again!

I try to imagine that Kari sounds the same though. That...can't be helped I guess. 😮‍💨 They couldn't afford her VA apparently.

To get myself caught up, I finally watched Last Evolution Kizuna! This is definitely my favorite Digimon movie now.

Okay, I've only watched two. And Summer Wars is probably my second favorite Digimon movie.

Okay yes, I like the Fox Kids Digimon Movie. But more in a nostalgic way. Last Evolution Kizuna (and on a different subject Summer Wars) are really enjoyable as an adult. Maybe I should watch the original Japanese Digimon movies that Fox Kids cut up.

There's one glaring flaw in the premise of the movie though. How is it that Digimon disappear when their chosen kids run out of potential when almost every member of the team BESIDES Tai and Matt already settled on a career path and their Digimon are fine?

That's supposed to be why Sora's Digivice was already rusting. She had already grown up, embraced flower arranging, and decided to stay with Biyomon until she disappeared.

Izzy's already a freakin' tech tycoon. (Calls to mind Cranston Industries from Power Rangers Once and Always.) I'm pretty sure he's not going to change his mind and go into basket weaving.

Unless "run out of potential" has a darker meaning, and Tai and Matt are out of potential career paths.

They also said it had to do with Omnimon using up their power - and that would make sense considering Agumon and Gabumon fought a lot more than the other Digimon...but that doesn't explain Sora and Biyomon.

The premise was a good idea though, and I thought they handled the emotion of it skillfully. That last moment where Tai and Matt look over and their Digimon have already vanished...you could see it from a mile away, but that doesn't lessen the moment.

How can you write a thesis about Digimon and people coexisting? What professor can possibly check that paper?

There was a part in the movie where Tai is talking about what each of the Digidestined are doing with their lives, and as he lists them, he mentions "Kari and Davis". Excusez-moi? Are they...dating?

I know Kari and TK don't necessarily get together in the 02 epilogue, but...did she date Davis?!

*gapes*

I heard that 02: The Beginning gives the new character more screen time than the actual 02 kids. And that's fine. I'm looking forward to seeing this new character's story, which will hopefully have 02's brand of horror. Kizuna had some fun scenes with the 02 team, and it was nice to reminisce, even if Davis sounds wrong.

And Kizuna's story felt like it could fit in 02! It's really unsettling that Menoa messed with Morphomon's data, nevertheless that she had the "lifeless" data of her partner at all. She must have been mistaken about what that data represented — Digimon never die. The way she says Morphomon's voice talked to her reminded me of Myotismon talking to Oikawa.

It never explained where the aurora came from, and I have trouble believing that the real Morphomon wanted her to do this, so either Menoa accessed some real craziness power inside her, or there was a Digimon that came through the aurora and pulled the strings. I expected the source of that voice to be the final boss, just like MaloMyotismon at the end of 02. Then again, Eosmon did smile at Menoa at the end, suggesting that it was Morphomon, so...maybe it was Morphomon who came through the aurora. Maybe they were villains together.

My favorite 02 movie would be...just more of 02, I guess. More Ken grappling with his identity. More Kari fighting off the Dark Ocean. A confrontation with Dragomon and the Daemon Corps. And some actual stories with the international Digidestined! I loved seeing all the cameos of the international Digidestined in Kizuna. It would just be cool to develop some of them.

The thing is...02 was the season to get a literal epilogue. Even though Adventure had that teary goodbye (the first of many 🙄) 02 actually ended with the truth that life just keeps changing and moving forward.

It wouldn't make sense for Ken to still be plagued by his days as the Digimon Emperor, or for Kari to still be running from Cthulu. After all, she definitely has a restraining order on him now. The 02 kids have grown and changed; that's not what they're dealing with anymore. And in that sense, even though the characters aren't, 02 is over.

So when it gets a new movie, it only makes sense to make it about a new character, with the old characters to help them.

That's the other problem with Kizuna that 02 technically does better. Growing up is one thing, but when you get older, your past doesn't just disappear, it's a part of you that develops with you as you change and grow. Our memories richen with new meanings as we gain new perspectives. And you also don't suddenly lose all your potential either! People change careers and they learn new things throughout their whole life. The fact that Matt had to keep asking TK to babysit Gabumon seems more realistic than Agumon and Gabumon conveniently disappearing.

Despite this, I do like the idea that potential is what powers the partner Digimon. This is why Digimon Digivolve when their partners learn something new. It makes sense.

And Kizuna does not contradict the 02 epilogue. Digimon never truly die. They'll meet again, but they'll just be normal Digimon, leaving the battle between good and evil to the next generation.

Or the franchise will drag them out for another adventure. 🤷‍♂️ I'd watch it!

[shihalyfie]

Your "the Chosen aren't keeping the Digimon much a secret" post reminded me of the 02 Christmas episode where Tentomon and Palmon were just shown openly hanging out with their partners' parents (And Takeru chatting with his mother after the World Tour with Patamon openly on his head).

Yeah, as far as 02 goes, the Adventure kids keeping the Digimon from their parents at all was more to do with the fact they knew their parents were likely to associate "the Digimon being there = something dangerous happening" and didn't want them to worry than any idea that their parents would have objections to the Digimon being there. Which ends up being unfounded in some cases, too (for instance, Koushirou's mom turning out to be surprised "Tento-san" isn't there at the end of 02 episode 27). Takeru seemed to have been very open with Natsuko about the fact Patamon was there for the entirety of 02, it was just during 02 episode 43 when he had to admit to her that his presence had come with more dangerous incidents happening under her nose.

Obviously, how open one would be about a Digimon partner with their parents would probably depend on each individual kid's relationship with their parents or how much danger they were in at all, but I think a good number of Chosen Children would probably have parents who would be surprisingly cool about the magical talking creature who'd appeared and befriended their kid, especially since the partner can also talk and explain their position. For what it's worth, in Kizuna, we see a board of film-taken photos depicting Menoa and Morphomon playing together (and even obviously posing for/interacting with the camera), and someone had to have taken those photos; combined with the fact Menoa is said to have had difficulty making human friends at school, I'm guessing her parents were well aware of Morphomon's presence and encouraged their relationship in the absence of Menoa having any other friends.

[rurulaura]

The last batch, which I call the movie crew.

Wallace from the Digimon Hurricane Touchdown movie and Rolling Bubbles from the Powerpuff GIrls Z anime are voiced by Nami Miyahara. Miyahara doesn't voice anything for Sailor Moon or Precure, but I really enjoyed watching the Powerpuff Girls Z anime when it came out.

Cristina Vee voices Meiko from Digimon tri. and Sailor Mars in the Sailor Moon Crystal dub. Meiko seems to be in a lot of crime fighting roles. She's Ladybug and Homura from Magica Madoka as well!

Maki and Daigo were put together for the sake of Nishihime. Maki from Digimon tri. and Gelos from Hugtto Precure are voiced by Yuko Kaida. The irony here is Gelos was turned bad from betrayal... The ending of Hugtto shows her as a little girl having a fun childhood. If only Maki could be the same... Maki's dub Voice actress also does regina in the Dokidoki Precure dub. As a fun tidbit, her Bakumon's voice actress plays Masha in Tokyo Mew Mew!

Daigo from Digimon tri. and Kumata from the Mahou Tsukai Precure movie are both voiced by Daisuke Namikawa. Namikawa is actually in Hugtto as well voicing a teacher. But how can I pass up drawing Daigo as a Bear when his partner is Bearmon?

Menoa from Kizuna dub and Sailor Star Maker from the Crystal dub series are both voiced by Erika Harlacher. Morphomon in the dub actually shares her voice actor with Maki, so Morphomon is also Regina. hehe

Megumi Oogata plays both Rui/Lui/Louie from Digimon Adventure 02 The beginning and Sailor Uranus from the OG Sailor Moon series. Megumi does a lot of Magical series'. Ukkomon is played by Rie Kugimiya, which you may remember as Ikuto from Digimon Savers!

This was a fun little project for me. One that showed how much I grew too. Because I was intimidated by all the frills and skirts in the Magical GIrl costumes. Precure especially. But I over came my fears and managed to complete the project. ^^

[the-tubort]

Digimon Last Evolution Kizuna is such an experience that I feel really has melted my brain in a good way. A lot of people who hate this movie jump to saying that the movie told them to touch grass which is just. Baffling wrong. And those who love it say that it's telling you to cherish your childhood and that time until it's gone which. Isn't necessarily wrong, but I also feel misses the points just a little bit.

To me it's always been a story about the fact that our lives change and we have to do our best to grow with those changes. The most important core of the movie was outright stated during the final fight but it was even stated in the Sora short where Mimi says that she thinks it was fate for them to be chosen but it wasn't destiny for them to do all the things they did. It was the choices they made along the way that allowed them to be adults with jobs and responsibilities and be in a position where their lives are becoming more and more what they envisioned. I feel that it's very easy to forget that in the final fight it's Yamato and Taichi that remind Menoa that she didn't make the wrong choice when she wanted to grow up sooner and choose a life for herself in the adult world. This entire time after Morphomon disappears, Menoa feels that she was responsible for all of it and that she has to fix it because she made the wrong choices, but it wasn't true. Even with the brief backstory we got for her, it's clear that her childhood was not like the others. She didn't have many friends or a support system, she wanted to conduct high level research but she was restricted by the education system and had to advance through it, she was picked on sometimes and didn't enjoy being around those in her age group, and she was happiest when conducting research and given the opportunity to show how smart she is. Those were not ever wrong choices for her and even though she made some bad choices, Menoa still deserves the same level of kindness and forgiveness that the others would give each other.

Yes the movie does tell us to hold our childhood moments and memories dear, but it also reminds us that we can't always do that. It's not just reminding us growing up is inevitable and that our childhood is gone, but that when we make our choices, things change and we have to be okay with that change. Even if it means one choice closes one door, that doesn't mean that door will be closed forever. The ending where Taichi and Yamato say they'll see Agumon and Gabumon again isn't a cop out and neither is them disappearing is pointless either just because of the 02 ending. The 02 ending is important and because it's canon, we know that it's true that they see them again and if anything, adds more complexity and depth to Taichi, Yamato, and Sora as that means even though they've made the decision to be adults and pick a career path, they still find their way back to their roots and reforge their bond.

Menoa and Gennai discuss how children have limitless possibilities and that's why they get partnered with Digimon, but it's just as true that even when you're an adult you can have limitless possibilities. There are good days and there are bad days that come along in your life, but as long as you keep moving forward and you keep trying, you're never truly left without options.

For as much as it sucks to see Sora sidelined this hard in the film, I think the short really hits it home for why she ended up losing Biyomon first. She realizes that her life is her own and she wants different things than everyone else. She doesn't want to keep fighting and she wants to try and live a life where she can slowly be true to herself and what she wants. Even if it means that she isn't the same Sora when she met Biyomon, the time they spent together is invaluable to them and just as Biyomon says, the sky was meant to traveled in. Their Digimon leaving them briefly isn't a sign that your childhood has to be cherished forever and to never forget it, it means that you have to explore and seek out the world around you and your childhood will find you again later.

It's easy to get mad at the movie for how it ends and how it can conflict with the established 02 ending, but I also find that this movie makes the ending feel real. The ending of 02 with the timeskip is wild and it's hard to understand how things ended the way they did but this movie honestly helped reconcile a lot of those feelings. It now makes a lot more sense why Taichi becomes a diplomat of all things. The time he spent with Agumon and now this encounter with Menoa would likely lead him to want to ensure peace between the two worlds is strong and that other people can find their own partners. Yamato going to fucking Mars feels understandable now. He doesn't want to be boxed in with what he knows and wants to rediscover what he can accomplish.

There's a lot for me to say on this movie but after my reqatch these my most immediate thoughts and I just cannot believe we got something this well animated and strong

[moth-thief]

Morphomon P-112 P <03>

Rookie | Vaccine | Insectoid

[On Play] Reveal the top 3 cards of your deck. Add 1 [Eosmon] and 1 [Menoa Bellucci] among them to your hand. Place the rest at the bottom of your deck. Then, by placing this card under 1 of your [Eosmon], you may play 1 [Menoa Bellucci] from your hand without paying the cost.

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Inherited: [Your Turn] (Once Per Turn) When another [Eosmon] is played, this Digimon may digivolve into a [Eosmon] from your hand, reducing the digivolution cost by 3.

[variouscolors-old]

[Database - Mobile]

[updated: May/8/2024]

[Long post ahead]

[Evolution lines - check this post]

Taichi: 25yo | Masc (he/him) | July/29 (LE) | Bi | Crest of Courage Agumon (he/him) Hikari: 21yo | Fem (she/her) | Sep/26 (LI) | AroAce | Crest of Light Tailmon (she/her) Sora: 25yo | Fem (she/her) | Feb/21 (AQ-PS cusp) | Bi | Crest of Love Piyomon (she/her; they/them) Yamato:  25yo | Masc (he/him) | Jan/23 (AQ) | Bi | Crest of Friendship Gabumon (he/him) Mimi: 24yo | Fem (she/her) | Mar/29 (AR) | Pan | Crest of Sincerity Palmon (she/her) Takeru: 21yo | Masc (he/him) | Jul/19 (CC) | Gay | Crest of Hope Patamon (he/him) Daisuke: 21yo | Masc (he/him) | Dec/1 (SG) | Pan | Courage & Friendship (+ Miracles) V-mon (he/him) Iori: 19yo | Masc (he/him) | Dec/28 (CP) | Demi | Knowledge & Reliability Armadimon (he/him) Miyako: 22yo | Fem (she/her) | May/30 (GM) | Bi | Love & Sincerity Hawkmon (they/them; he/him) Ken: 21yo | Masc (he/him) | Oct/31 (SC) | Demi | Crest of Kindness Wormmon (he/him) Michael: 24yo | Masc (he/him) | Jul/2 (CC) | Demi  Betamon (he/him)  Jun: 27yo | Fem (she/her) | Apr/17 (AR) | Pan Pulsemon (she/her) Wallace:  21yo | Masc (he/him) | Jun/8 (GM) | Bi | Crest (?) of Destiny Gummymon [Terriermon] & Chocomon [Lopmon] (he/him) Maki:  21yo | Fem (she/her) | Jan/8 (CP) | Ace Bakumon (he/him) Daigo:  21yo | Masc (he/him) | Oct/18 (LI) | Bi Bearmon (he/him) Menoa:  22yo | Fem (she/her) | Jul/9 (CC) | Bi Morphomon (she/her) Ryo: 25yo | Masc (he/him) | Dec/16 (SG) | Bi | Able to turn enemy digimon into allies Cyberdramon (he/him) Lui: 20yo | Masc (he/him) | Feb 28*-29 (PS) | Demi | Alleged First Chosen Ukkomon (he/him) [OC] Noel/Étoile: 20yo | Enby (he/him) | Jun/15 (GM) | ??? | Phantom Thief Miss Espimon (she/her)

[Adv:/Psi] Taichi: 11yo | Masc (he/him) | Dec/20 (SG-CP) | AroAce | Courage Agumon (he/him)  [V-Tamer] Taichi: 11?yo | Masc (he/him) | Nov/21 (SC-SG cusp) | Demi Zeromaru [V-dramon] (he/him)

Gennai: he/him Digitamamon: They/them; he/him Arukenimon: she/her Natchan: she/her

[Adv:] Neemon: he/him

[OC] Blu/Rhodo: he/him; they/them

Takuya: 12yo | Masc (he/him | Aug/7 (LE) | Bi | Warrior of Flame Izumi: 12yo | Fem (she/her) | May/14 (GM) | Demi | Warrior of Wind

Bokomon: he/him Neemon: he/him

Ikuto: 14yo | Masc (he/him; they/them) | Mar/25 (AR) | Demi Falcomon (he/him; they/them)

Taiki:  16yo | Masc (he/him) | Oct/19 (LI) | Bi Shoutmon (he/him) Akari:  16yo | Fem (she/her) | Sep/16 (VI) | Bi Dorulumon & Cutemon (he/him) Tagiru: 15yo | Masc (he/him) | Mar/25 (AR) | Demi (canon) / AroAce (AU) Gumdramon (he/him)

Haru: 15yo | Masc (he/him) | Jul/1 (CC) | Bi Gatchmon (he/him) Eri: 15yo | Fem (she/her) | Apr/16 (AR-TA cusp) | Bi Dokamon (he/him) Rei: 15yo | Masc (he/him) | ??? | ?? Hackmon (he/him) Yuujin: 16?yo | Masc (he/him; they/them) | Mar/19 (PS-AR cusp) | Gay Offmon (he/him) Knight:  18?yo | Masc (he/him) | ??? | ???

Hiro: 14yo | Masc (he/him) | May/14 (TA) | AroAce Gammamon (he/him)

[GG] Piemon: he/him [GG] Kuzuhamon: she/her

Rina: 17yo | Fem (she/her) | ??? | ??? V.V. [VeeVee] (he/him)

[CSHM] Magnamon: he/him

[variouscolors]

Muse list + database (last update: Sep/14/2024)

Main muses • Low activity muses • Dropped muses

AVENTURE UNIVERSE (OG + Reboot)

Daisuke [21yo • SG • Dec 1st • Pan • He/Him] • V-mon [he/him] → XV → Wingdra → UlforceV-dra ↳ Armor/Jogress

[Restricted] Lui [20yo • PS • Feb 29 (28 on non leap years) • Demi • He/Him] • Ukkomon [he/him] → BigUkko

Ken [21yo • SC • Oct 31 • Bi • He/Him] • Wormmon [he/him] → Sting → JewelBee → BanchoSting ↳ Armor/Jogress

Miyako [22yo • GM • May 30 • Bi • She/Her] • Hawkmon [he/him/they/them] → Aquila → Hippogriffo → Valdur ↳ Armor/Jogress

Iori [19yo • CP • Dec 28 • AroAce • He/Him] • Armadimon [he/him] → Ankylo → ??? → ??? ↳ Armor/Jogress

Takeru [21yo • CC • July 19 • Bi • He/Him] • Patamon [he/him] → Ange → HolyAnge → Seraphi ↳ Armor/Jogress

Hikari [21yo • LI • Sep 26 • AroAce • She/Her] • Tailmon [she/her] → Angewo → Holydra ↳ Armor/Jogress

Wallace [21yo • GM • Jun 8 • He/Him] • Terriermon [he/him] → Gargo → Rapid (perf) → SaintGargo ↳ Armor • Lopmon [he/him] → Turuie → Antyla (deva) → Cherubi (Virtue)

OG Taichi [24yo • AR • Mar 29 • Demi • He/Him] • Agumon [he/him] → Grey → MetalGrey → WarGrey ↳ Jogress

RB Taichi [11yo • SG • Dec 20 • AroAce • He/Him] • Agumon [he/him] → Grey → MetalGrey → WarGrey/BlitzGrey ↳ Jogress

Yamato [24yo • AQ • Jan 23 • Bi • He/Him] • Gabumon [he/him] → Garuru → WereGaruru → MetalGaruru ↳ Jogress

Sora [24yo • PS-AQ • Feb 21 • Bi • She/Her] • Piyomon [she/her] → Birdra → Garuda → Houou

Mimi [23yo • LE • July 29 • Bi • She/Her] • Palmon [she/her] → Toge → Lily → Rose

Jun [27yo • AR • April 17 • Bi • She/Her] • Pulsemon [she/her] → Runner → Tempo → LovelyAnge

[Advverse] Ryo [24yo • SG • Dec 20 • ?? • He/Him] • Monodramon [he/him] → Cyberdra (warp] ※ Able to turn enemy digimon into allies

Maki [27yo • CP • Jan 8 • AroAce • She/Her] • Bakumon [he/him] →  Monochro → Megadra → ???

Daigo [27yo • LI • Oct 18 • Himechan only • He/Him] • Bearmon [he/him] → Grizz → LoaderLeo → Baihu

[AU] Meiko [24yo • LI • Oct 30 • AroAce • She/Her] • Meicoomon [she/her] → Meicrack (Normal) → Rasiel ↳ Meicrack (Vicious) → Raguel → Ordine ※ does not evolve naturally like a digimon. But has mutations as some replacement of Digimon Evolution.

Menoa [24yo • CC • Jul 9 • Bi • She/Her] • Morphomon [she/her] → ??? ↳ Modified data to Eosmon line

[02 ep 36-37] Chef Digitamamon [he/him] ↳ line: Vee → V-dra → Digitama

Arukenimon [she/her]

[Drama CD] Natsu (Natchan) [she/her]

[OC] Blu Rhodo [he/him] ↳ line: Chibi → LordKnight (warp)

[OC] Noel Leblanc/Étoile [20yo • GM • Jun 15 • He/Him] ↳ Arsenemon line: Nyaro → Plot → BlackTail → Arsene

sideblogs:

@projectmei [AU Meiko]

@himekawamaki [Maki; shitpost only]

@infinitycafeshop [Cafe Shop HC for Rui]

@crimsondigimonhunter [AU Tagiru]

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OTHER DIGIMON SERIES/GAMES

Takuya [12yo • LE • Aug 7 • Bi • He/Him] ↳ Agni ↔ Vritra → Alda or KaiserGrey

Rina [ 21yo • CC • Jun 27 • Pan • She/Her] • V.V. (VeeVee) [he/him] → V-dra → AeroV-dra → UlforceV-dra

Hiro [14yo • TA • May 14 • ?? • He/Him] • Gammamon [he/him] → Betel → Canoweiss → Sirius ↳ Kaus/Wezen ↳ Gulus → Regulus • Espimon [he/him] → HoverEspi

[GG] Piemon [he/him] -- line: Imp → Wizard → Wise → Pie

[AU] Tagiru [13yo • AR • Mar 25 • ?? • He/Him] • Gumdramon [he/him] → Arrester → Arrester SM

[blueikeproductions]

I'm not sure what to expect either, but my immediate, if somewhat cynical, take on it is that it's Kakudo being allowed to indulge in his original plans for a third series of Digimon Adventure that formed the basis of the 02 epilogue, and it's the now adult DigiDestined fighting an alien race that appeared one day, and Omnimon appears to stab the alien ship with his sword. As mentioned, he's been very vocal about how the sequel movies don't fit his vision, so this being a one off that is closer to what he had in mind makes the most sense to me. Which would also mean if so, it leaves the other sequel movies open to continue on if need be. Of course, Beyond potentially being a splinter timeline doing its own thing leaves the door open to do more with ITS timeline too. I don't think they want to close the book on Adventure completely, and any opportunity to continue it somehow they'll take.

If it's a "sequel" to 02TB, I'm not super sure what it would do to incorporate the past movies, if at all. Maybe just some passing reference to Meiko, Meicoomon, Rui, Ukkomon and Menoa and Morphomon if I had to guess, with Tai and Matt specifically investigating a problem that sees Agumon and Gabumon return and form Omnimon to solve it. The shot of the orange and blue lights appearing to do the DNA Digivolve dance imply Omnimon will appear in this, at least to me. Just the how's and why's we won't know until it airs next year.

My guess is we see brief cuts of the DigiDestined doing their usual routines as adults, but then, a Giant DigiEgg appears in the sky ... again (Parrotmon, Armageddemon, Ukkomon, it adds up).... hatches and a Digimon causes a problem disrupting the adulting. Whether or not those routines include Biyomon and the others I'm not sure, but honestly with the limit I don't see them spending a lot of time on it. They could just as easily have Agumon and the others already there, similar to Guilmon and the Tamers Digimon all being inexplicably back in Runaway Locomon with no explanation.

I'm not sure how Davis, Cody, Yolei and Ken factor into it beyond a brief cameo either, since it looks pretty clear the focus is on Tai and Matt specifically. It'd be nice to see Veemon help out in some form, but how I don't know yet. Omnimon and Imperialdramon punching out the old/new enemy would make the most sense, but will they do that specifically? I 'unno, but it'd be sweet if they did.

It begs the question if Garudamon/Phoenixmon, MegaKabuterimon/HerculesKabuterimon, Zudomon/Vikemon, MagnaAngemon/Shakkoumon/Seraphimon, Angewomon/Silphymon/Magnadramon appear at all to fight or not.

If it does what I think it might, it might just be the Ultimate Levels, and not the Megas, since Kakudo is... particular about certain things..., and most current OG Adventure stuff he's involved with ignores the non WarGreymon/MetalGarurumon Mega Levels (since they didn't appear in the original stuff after all).

I remember talking some some people about the idea of a reboot Adventure continuation and they didn't feel confident in Toei wanting to go back to it, because they didn't think it did well, pandemic aside. I wouldn't say no to it, it's honestly much simpler to pick up where it left off than trying to force OG Adventure to keep going, but what it would do, a new story focusing on Tai's group, or attempting its own 02 with a reboot Davis, I'm not sure. Personally I want to see an Adventure storyline set in DigiWorld Iliad, and Tai and Agumon have to deal with Merukimon and company, be that in the reboot universe, or some splinter timeline from OG Adventure.

Some consolidated thoughts on the new Digimon announcement:

Since it's set to Brave Heart, which is originally 4:13 long, assuming that they add an intro scene and round it off to 5 mins, I think that it's best to not have high expectations of the amount of content they will cover.

Having every Digidestined (including 02 kids) get substantial screen time is the highest bar I will set. If this requirement is fulfilled I will personally consider the video a success.

I can't seem to land on one solid reason for why we are getting a PV instead of a third movie to truly tie off the series (giving space for the Reboot version to take off into their journey so we're all like 68 and still watching & arguing about Digimon lol). I've seen a few comments about 02TB not performing well enough to warrant a third part, which I don't feel is the case because that move was even released in India, a rare occurrence, so the global popularity was definitely felt considering Kizuna was hit by the pandemic in this department.

I'm leaning more towards creative differences, because Kakudo has made it quite obvious that his vision does not align fully with the narrative that Kizuna, then 02TB have built. It's entirely possible that Seki and Kakudo just couldn't sign off on the actual plot presented to make a third movie, and decided to do their own thing hence the shorter format.

One staff at NYCC was introduced as being responsible for heading the new Digimon team, which does give me the hope that another anime series (REBOOT SEASON 2!!!) is in the works and they were just waiting for the 25th Anniversary projects to tide over before announcing it.

Onto the actual content of the video, I think for the fans that enjoyed Kizuna, especially the open ending (I'm Fans) a half-assed explanation of how Taichi and Yamato get back together with Agumon and Gabumon will be disappointing. That said, I don't think we'll really get an explanation for it but I do think the video can start off with Taichi and Yamato reuniting with their partners.

However, the tone set by 02TB implies that these guys are also well settled in their lives even without their partner Digimon, so for them to rush back into battle something HUGE would need to disrupt that flow, but can they even explain & sustain a huge occurrence like that in 4-5 mins? I don't want to answer this question lol.

Personally, I wouldn't mind a more laidback take, which leaves a lot of space for fans to interpret what happened, rather than just shoving sequence after sequence of important moments in high speed. Showing Taichi and Yamato and other older kids just going about their lives as adults and then there is that moment when they're hit by a nostalgic memory of their partners which starts off their path to reunion. I understand the need for having a villain for Taichi and Yamato to join forces and battle, but I'm totally okay with a more nuanced, slice-of-life version which hits home for all older Digimon fans currently struggling with adulting.

And finally, the controversial (still traumatized by it) Epilogue. I would prefer it if the point of this video is to show the reunion of the Digidestined and their partners, with the implication that this will lead to the epilogue shown in 02. But I also fear that in order to fit in the societal standard of "adulting", and with Seki being a part of this team most likely, they'll definitely add the married couples with kids tropes.

Keeping shipping aside, I think that showing Sora, Mimi, Miyako and Hikari in their exploration phase during Kizuna/02TB did wonders for their characterisations. Rather than shoehorning all of them into wives/mothers/tradfem roles, we actually got a glimpse of how they will always continue to break barriers and moulds, which is at the core of how every Digigirl was written originally. Still, as life goes on people do change so even if we see Mimi with a typical cooking show or Miyako the Mom, I wouldn't be as upset because Kizuna/02TB already gave us a good glimpse of how the girls are capable of forging their own paths, regardless of any male presence in their lives.

But jk we all know this is going to be a TaiYama fest so Idk why I'm even worrying over my girls, I will be grateful if we get Mimi on screen for more than 10 seconds 😂

So that's my thoughts, open for discussion, not condescending arguments 🫶🏻

[digitalgate02]

This might be hard for me to put into words, but... I don't think Kizuna and 02TB have a character villain. At least, they're not pure evil like people want them to be...?

It's easy to watch these movies and then come to the conclusion that both Menoa and Ukkomon are the villains of them because of their actions and wrong choices, but the real thing is neither of them had malicious intentions and they only wanted to help people or their own partners..

They were good people who did bad things. I'm not saying they didn't do anything wrong -- because they did, and none of the movies sugarcoated their actions and justified them -- and yes, that they were characters with noble and good intentions who ended up screwing things up really badly because of something related to the plot and themes of the movies.

What I'm trying to say is that the real evil villains are not the characters and yes, something "abstract" -- something I also see in the 02 TV series and Hurricane Touchdown movie.

Kizuna's villain is the pressure young people feel to grow up, which makes them clueless about what it means to be an "adult", and thus they reject their beloved childhood memories and hobbies in order to become mature and older.

This theme is depicted not only in the Partnership Dissolution's dilemma, but also in how Taichi, Yamato, and Menoa (and to some extent Sora in the short "To Sora") reject their Digimon partners in order to become "real adults".

Menoa's entire mental health is shattered to the point that when she loses Morphomon, she assumes that becoming an adult is a bad thing, so everyone should stay a child to prevent more people from suffering the same pain. But does that make Menoa a bad person? No, because she wanted to help people and prevent others from having the same "fate". Her actions were bad, but not herself or her intentions.

Meanwhile, 02TB's villain(s) are the miscommunication between you and the people around you, and the cycle of family/domestic abuse.

The theme is pretty much represented in the Ohwada family, Ukkomon and their actions. Rui was a victim of family abuse and I guess he never had a chance to make his own choices or express his own thoughts and needs, so Ukkomon comes in and just saves him from that miserable life by doing wrong things. But since Rui never had a really good example of how to communicate and deal with people in general, he messes that up as well by passing on the same abuse he suffered to Ukkomon -- which is shown in the scene where everything in Rui's life goes south.

Does this mean that Ukkomon and Rui are bad people? No, they're pretty good people with good intentions, but they make bad decisions and do wrong things in the end. Both Rui and Ukkomon claim to have done bad things, so I'm not blaming the victim here.

As I said, this narrative with an "abstract" villain is also present in 02 and Hurricane Touchdown, unlike the more traditional and usual cartoonish villains in Adv'99 (or in the Adv reboot/2020 anime), OWG (+ DSB), and in Tri as well -- Because Ken, Oikawa, and Chocomon were NOT bad people either, just good people doing bad things and making wrong choices..

[izzyizumi]

Digimon Adventure/02 (Series) ~ {+} Tri. x Last Evolution: Kizuna Featuring: Meiko Mochizuki + Meicoomon {tri.} [“Kyousei” / “Coexistence”] vs. Menoa Bellucci + Morphomon {Kizuna} + Character Arc{s} / [Parallels] + Femslash February 2021 Day #9 + Headcanons OPs commentary: If you think, in a post-Kizuna scenario, Meiko Mochizuki and Menoa Bellucci wouldn’t bond over having such similar shared experiences, I don’t even know what to tell you.

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[lemon-pear]

DigiWeek 2022, Day 1 (Beginning)

Not sure how much I'll be able to participate in @digiweek this year, but I wanted to show some love to less popular characters and pairs wherever I could. So here's my pick for Day 1, Menoa and Morphomon.

Beginnings are just so full of potential, don't you think?

[shihalyfie]

Jou is oldest member of the Adventure group, so why in Kizuna he didn't lost Gomamon before Taichi, Yamato and Sora lost their partners? Since he is the oldest in the group, he should have lost his Digimon partner first.

Because Menoa's entire theory of partnership dissolution correlating directly with adulthood is a fallacy to begin with, and even if it weren't a fallacy, Menoa losing Morphomon at 14 means that even she knows the issue is more to do with a mental state of mind of being an "adult" (because in her mind, she became an "adult" at 14 when she was admitted into university early) than it ever had to do with physical age.

Taichi, Yamato, and Sora lost their partners because of "something" that happened with them that was absolutely not going on with Jou, and the nature of that "something" is fairly evident when you look at Menoa/Taichi/Yamato/Sora's actions and mentalities compared to where Jou is at the time.