#melanippe

[deathlessathanasia]

Hi! Do you have, by any chance, any informations about the child of Melanippe (Chiron's daughter)? Both Theoi and Wikipedia gave me a headache, especially because there are different figures with the exact same name, as well as figures with different names whom Wikipedia identifies with each despite the fact that the sources they give do not seem to suggest any connection between them?...

Ok, I tried to look this up and I got hopelessly confused. It seems that the source that provides most accounts of this particular Melanippe is Hyginus' Astronomy, where her child by Aeolus remains unnamed. However, there are too many women named Melanippe and waaay too many men named Aeolus. I mean, just in this account there are three guys whose name is Aeolus:

"In the times before that which we are discussing the rest of the sons of Aeolus, who was the son of Hellen, who was the son of Deucalion, settled in the regions we have mentioned, but Mimas remained behind and ruled as king of Aeolis. Hippotes, who was born of Mimas, begat Aeolus by Melanippê, and Arnê, who was the daughter of Aeolus, bore Boeotus by Poseidon. But Aeolus, not believing that it was Poseidon who had lain with Arnê and holding her to blame for her downfall, handed her over to a stranger from Metapontium who happened to be sojourning there at the time, with orders to carry her off to Metapontium. And after the stranger had done as he was ordered, Arnê, while living in Metapontium, gave birth to Aeolus and Boeotus, whom the Metapontian, being childless, in obedience to a certain oracle adopted as his own sons." (Diodorus Siculus, Library of History 4.67.3-4).

I hate mythological genealogies! There is a Melanippe here as well, but is she the Melanippe daughter of Chiron? The first Aeolus mentioned here, son of Hellen, is the father of Chiron's daughter's child in the account of Hyginus, whereas this Melanippe mates with Hippotes, son of Mimas and gives birth to another Aeolus. They are likely different figures even though the theoi site suggests otherwise.

In Euripides' fragmentary "Wise Melanippe" it seems that the eponymous character is a daughter of Aeolus the son of Hellen while her mother is Chiron's daughter, here named Hippo. So Chiron's daughter, Melanippe/Hippo/Hippe/Thetis/Ocyrhoe or whatever her name may be, is the mother of another Melanippe.

[smww4ever]

Queen Hippolyta, her sisters (Diana’s aunties) and young Diana: Reimagined.

[sarafangirlart]

Hatred of womankind is a most grievous thing. Those who have fallen bring disgrace on those who have not, and the bad ones share their censure with the good; and where marriage is concerned men think they have no integrity at all

Euripides, Captive Melanippe

Well… not much has changed since then, concerning how men view women.

[aliciavance4228]

I can fix her.

[dalekofchaos]

Wonder Woman fancast

My Hypothetical reboot fancast in the Reevesverse!

My other DC fancasts

Superman

DCEU Recast

Batman

The Flash

Green Lantern

Aquaman

Green Arrow

Teen Titans

Justice League Dark

Batman Beyond

The Dark Knight Returns

Telltale’s Batman

Injustice

Legion Of Doom

Birds Of Prey

Few things first. 

The Greek Gods would not be killed off

Diana is not Zeus’ daughter, she is molded out of clay and empowered by the Greek Gods/Goddesses like in the original origin.

With that out of the way, here’s my fancast

Ioanna Triantafyllidou/Joanna Fyllidou as Wonder Woman/Diana Prince

Mikey Madison as Donna Troy/Troia

Emma Myers as Wonder Girl/Cassandra Sandsmark

Nikolaj Coster-Waldau as Steve Trevor

Aidy Bryant as Etta Candy

KJ Apa as Terry Long

Debora Nascimento  as Yara Flor

Madison Taylor Baez as Caipora

Lynda Carter as Queen Hippolyta

Renee O'Connor as Antiope

Christina Hendricks as Melanippe

Gina Torres as Nubia

Lena Headley as Penelope

Hudson Leick as Penthesilea

Lisa Berry as Philippus

Rose Leslie as Artemis

Charlize Theron as Cheetah/Barbara Ann Minerva

Lucy Lawless as Circe

Madeleine McGraw as Devastation

Joan Chen as Doctor Cyber/Cylvia Anita Cyber

Eihi Shiina as Doctor Poison

Peter Dinklage as Doctor Psycho/Doctor Edgar Cizko

Famke Janssen as Medusa

Sophie Turner as Silver Swan (Vanessa Kapatelis)

Melanie Scrofano as Giganta

Sarah Paulson as Veronica Cale

Leonardo DiCaprio as Maxwell Lord

Alexander Ludwig as Adonis

Alicia Vikander as Grail

Natalie Dormer as Aphrodite

John Boyega as Apollo

Richard Armitage as Ares

Joey King, Asa Butterfield, Jacob Lofland, Uriah Shelton and Lily-Rose Depp as The Children of Ares

Anne Hathaway as Athena

Doug Jones as Charon

Jack Black as Dionysus

Benicio Del Toro as Hades

Andy Serkis as Hephaestus

Rachel Weisz as Hera

Clive Standen as Heracles

Sam Reid as Hermes

Kaya Scodelario as Pandora

Jodie Comer as Persephone

Ryan Hurst as Poseidon

Timothy Omundson as Zeus

[violetwolfraven]

Carmilla (2014-2017) really did have it all huh. Lesbians. Vampires. Cults. Mildly toxic main relationship. Canon nonbinary character. Most of the action happening offscreen. Shitty special effects. One (1) straight character and he was a himbo. Sponsored by a period products brand. Some pretty damn good costuming for that low of a budget. And it was all literally just a college au fanfic of a novel from the 19th century. Truly peak entertainment.

[overhatedcharacterspoll]

OVERHATED CHARACTERS POLL: Melanippe "Mel" Callis (Carmilla the Series)

Feel free to explain your position in the comments or tags, but any harassment, over-the-top fighting, or personal attacks will result in you being blocked. Do not attack real people, be they fans or creators, over fictional characters.

Mod note: Mel's redemption arc was so, so good.

[chthonic-cassandra]

Why is academia.edu telling me that my former academic advisor read a paper that I wrote under her direction nearly ten years ago.

[conjcosby]

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[littlesparklight]

If you're like me and sometimes gets strange ideas into your head and want to make little lists, here's the (maybe not exhaustive?) list of the mortal daughters of the gods:

Poseidon Eirene (daughter of Melantheia, daughter of Alpheios) - Plutarch, Quaestiones Graecae 19 Aithousa (daughter of Alkyone) - Bibliotheke 3.110, Pausanias 9.20.1 Evadne (daughter of Pitane) - Pindar, Olympian 6 Lamia - Pausanias, Description, 10. 12. 2

Zeus Helen (daughter of Leda) - lots of sources [Hierophile (daughter of Lamia) - Pausanias, Description 10.12.1 Keroessa (daughter of Io) - several post-0 sources] -I've put both Hierophile and Keroessa within square brackets because I'm half discounting them. Keroessa more so, considering her very late sources. Helen as Zeus' (only) mortal daughter has more relevance and is more weighted, I think, even if more than one source mentions Zeus' love of Lamia. Of course, one could keep that and discount Hierophile herself as a daughter of Zeus.

Apollo Hilaeira and Phoibe (otherwise daughters of Leukippus) - Kypria, via Pausanias, 3. 16. 1 Eriopis (daughter of Arsinoe, daughter of Leukippus) - Ehoiai 63; Scholia ad Pindar, Pythian Ode 3.14 Melite (otherwise daughter of Myrmex) - Harpocration, possibly Hesiod Parthenos (daughter of Chrysothemis) - Pseudo-Hyginus, Astronomica 2. 25 Phemonoe - Pliny the Elder [Eurynome (daughter of Iphthius and mother of Adrastus)??? Pamphile???] -The square brackets here are because Wikipedia only listed sources to myth compendiums of 1800-1900's, and so I have no idea what actual ancient sources make these women daughters of Apollo. (The Leukippides are most usually daughters of Leukippos, but I've included them here for completeness' sake.)

Ares Alkippe (daughter of Agraulos) - Bibliotheke 3.180 Amazons in general/unknown number of general Amazons - Apollonius Rhodius, Argonautica 2.989 Hippolyte, Antiope, Penthesilea[, Melanippe] (daughters of Otrera) - Bibliotheke 2.98+Epitome5.1, Hyginus, Fabulae 30, 112, 223, 241, Aethiopis Thrassa (daughter of Tereine, daughter of Strymon) - Antoninus Liberalis, Metamorphoses 21

Dionysos Deianira (daughter of Althaia) - Bibliotheke, 1.64, Hyginus Fabulae 129

I rather expected Ares and Apollo to be at the top of this list. Ares in particular, even if we have only a small number of individual Amazons named as his daughters by a specific woman. But Apollonius' Argonautica is pretty clear and he must absolutely in general have fathered more than just a handful of daughters especially in the beginning, to "make" any Amazons worthy of a name as a people at all. I was surprised at the number of daughters Poseidon could have, honestly! Didn't expect that. But as we can see, the number of women here is very low - the absolute vast majority of demigods are sons, not daughters.

[smww4ever]

Royal Household

Orithyia

Melanippe

Queen Hippolyta

Young Diana

The Amazons:

Early Age

[bugwolfsstuff]

I've been reading a wikipedia page on metamorphoses in Greek myth for a fic and oh my gods

First off, it's fucking entertaining, endless fun. Zeus has literally booted a winged son of Achilles out of the isle of the blessed because he didn't like him (I stan a petty king)

Second off, Chiron has daughters— or more, had.

Ocyrhoe, the daughter of Chiron, foretold her father's exact fate to him, thereupon she was transformed into a mare right as she finished her prophecy.

Melanippe, a daughter of Chiron, fell pregnant and fled to the mountains so that her father would not find out about her pregnancy. She prayed to Artemis, and Artemis transformed her into a mare. In other versions, the transformation was a punishment over some insult of Melanippe against Artemis. Melanippe's child, Arne, was born a foal as a result, but later in life acquired a human form. In the end Melanippe was transferred to the stars.

Gods damn they will not leave that horse-man alone😭😭😭😭 Chiron's just forced to watch his kids face a tragic fate for eternity

@thel1ghtningthief @smileyalater @unubinary

On a lighter note...

Girl Dad Chiron canon

[aliciavance4228]

Not only that Melanippe means Black-Mare, but she's also known as Hippe or Euippe. Hippo means horse in ancient greek. They literally named her horse. It's as if someone would name a dog "the dog" or a cat "the cat", only that in this case her only connection with horses was that her father was a centaur, and nobody knew that she will be eventually turned into an actual horse. You're not going to tell me that Ocyrrhoe isn't a better name.

[davidluongart]

Ares and his daughters, the Amazons⚔️🏛️✨

Depictions of Amazonian women were were based on the nomadic Saka/ Scythians who lived in the Eurasian steppes, from Eastern Europe to Central Asia, and southern parts of Siberia (including the Thracians, Cimmerians, and Sarmatians that mentioned by the Greeks were a part of). From left to right of the illustration: Penthesilea, Queen Hippolyte, Melanippe, and Antiope.

The background was based on Giresun Island in the Black Sea, in ancient times called “Aretias” or “island of Ares”; as according to legend, the island was sacred to the Amazons, who had dedicated a temple to Ares here. The Black Sea region was also the setting for various obscure Greek legends/mythologies, too. The stories of Jason & the Argonauts, planned to capture the Golden Fleece & how he fell in love with the Colchian sorcery princess, Medea; Achilles’ temple/final resting place after his mother Thetis retrieved him from the Trojan War, and how Iphigenia was sent by Artemis to the Tauric peninsula.

Even today, fertility rites are performed there every May, usually involving the famed boulder named the Hamza Stone on the east side of the island, which I depicted in the roofless stone temple in the background. (According to archeological indications, it was probably built during the Classical-Hellenistic era) Now often shrouded as a popular practice, it’s a 4,000-year-old celebration dedicated to the native mother goddess of the region-Cybele.

[deathlessathanasia]

There is a Klymene daughter of Okeanos, consort of Iapetos and mother of Prometheus, a Klymene daughter of Okeanos, consort of Helios and mother of Phaethon; a Klymene daughter of Nereus; a Klymene daughter of Minyas, wife of Kephalos and mother of Iphiklos; a Klymene daughter of Katreus; there are about half a dozen more ladies named Klymene.

There is an Aglaia daughter of Zeus and wife of Hephaistos, an Aglaia daughter of Mantineus and mother of Akrisios and Proitos by Abas; an Aglaia consort of Charops and mother of Nireus; there are several other ladies named Aglaia.

There is the Themis daughter of Gaia and Ouranos, consort of Zeus and mother of the Seasons; there is also a local Arcadian nymph called Themis by the Greeks and Carmenta. by the Romans, mother of Evander and consort of Hermes.

There is the Thetis daughter of Nereus and mother of Achilles; there is also Melanippe the daughter of Cheiron whose original name was Thetis

Therefore, just because in Plato's Symposium the mother of Poros is named Metis doesn't have to mean she is the same goddess whose son, if conceived, was to become king of gods and men. Metis is also one of the many names attributed to the mother of Homer: "As for his [Homer's] mother, she is variously called Metis, Cretheis, Themista, and Eugnetho. Others say she was an Ithacan woman sold as a slave by the Phoenicians; other, Calliope the Muse; others again Polycasta, the daughter of Nestor." (The Contest of Homer and Hesiod) Metis is literally a word that describes a particular form of intelligence, so it lends itself well to allegorical genealogies such as these.