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Legacies X me headcanons
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I would be one year older than Hope
I would be played by Hailee Steinfield or Madelaine Petsch
My name would be Kira
I would be part witch and part werewolf when I broke the curse, my parents would've made me a ring to control my turn
I would be a very powerful witch with a lot of knowledge because of my parents and my appreciation to learn
I would be friends with the twins since when I started go to the Salvatore School
Later, when Hope got there, I would be very close to her because I wouldn't judge her
Lizzie wouldn't like me being so close to Hope at first but she would understand later
Lizzie and Josie would be my best friends
I would help Hope to feel safe and defend her against others
I would meet the Mikaelsons after months being friend with Hope
I would share the room with Hope, Lizzie and Josie
I would study magic with Freya and Hope sometimes
My hobbies would be dance, read, write, and watch movies
2 months after meet Hope's family, I would have my first kiss with her
Then we would start dating
Landon wouldn't like this at first since he and hope had a complicated story
But he became very supportive later
Me and Hope would make our relationship public at school later so we could be close without shame
All Mikaelsons were supportive and made me feel safe at their family
Josie was happy for us and focusing on herself
Lizzie would be jealous at first without know why exactly but then she got happy for us because we were two very important people in her life that would make each other happy
After Hope's transition, me and Hope would considerate me become a Hybrid with her blood (after she turned off and turned on again)
After some years, I would turn and she would help me in my transition
Maybe adding more later?
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Hope Mikaelson x Male Reader
Request - Could u do a hope mikaelson X male reader where the reader is caroline and Alaric's older son and the twins' big bro.
You just had a heavy make-out session with your girlfriend Hope. But the relationship is a secret and your sisters don't know about it. You made it out of Hope’s room and try to act as nothing happened.
“Y/n, where have you been?” Josie asked.
“Oh hey,” You said.
“Y/n, why do you have lipstick on your lips?” Josie asked.
“Woah, why are you asking so many questions? Are you a cop?” You said.
“Stop joking around. Y/n why do you have lipstick on your lips?” Josie asked.
You try to come up with a lie but Josie can see you're about to lie. You are the big brother of Lizzie and Josie. You are a warlock and the strongest one on campus. You are protective of your sisters, but they don't know you have a girlfriend. You and Hope agreed to keep the relationship a secret for a while.
“I wanted to try on lipstick. I was curious...” You said.
“I don't believe you, Y/n. Dad is mad that you have been skipping your classes” Josie said.
“He is never here,” You said.
“Dad has been busy. He will be coming back later” Josie said.
“Okay,” You said.
“Let’s go to class,” Josie said.
She grabbed your hand and dragged you to class. You have a class with Josie and Lizzie and you always sit behind them. You and the rest of the class are learning magic strategies. Josie did tell Lizzie about the lipstick on your lips. Lizzie is now curious why you have lipstick on your lips.
Lizzie turned around
“Y/n, I know you have a girlfriend and I will figure out who it is” Lizzie Said.
“Whatever, Lizzie,” You said.
She glared at you and you stick out your tongue at her.
“Lizzie and Y/n stop talking,” the teacher said.
“Sorry,” You and Lizzie Said in sync.
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You don't have any more classes to go to, instead, you are with Hope in your bedroom.
“Do you think they will find out?” Hope asked.
“I don't think so, but I know they will keep digging until they find something. Maybe we should tell them?” You Said.
“You don't like sneaking around?” Hope asked.
Hope is worried that your family won't support the relationship.
“I do but after a while what's the point? I want them to know, you're my girlfriend and I'm not ashamed of you” You said.
“Let’s talk about something else,” Hope said.
“Okay” You sighed.
You and Hope continued to keep making out. While Lizzie and Josie are trying to come up with a plan to find out if you have a girlfriend.
---
Fighting Malivore has been getting harder. Everyone is running out of ideas about how to stop him. But Lizzie and Josie haven't stopped spying on you. You haven't noticed they have been following you.
Josie does use her spell to invisible, she caught you and Hope making out in the library. But she hasn't told Lizzie just yet, she is still in shock.
Days later...
Lately, Hope has been thinking about the relationship. She cares for you so much and she is madly in love with you, but she hasn't said those words just yet.
“Hey babe, sorry I forgot your birthday. But I will make it up to you” You said.
“I want to break up with you,” Hope said.
What she said stung your heart and you're speechless.
“What? Why do you want to break up with me?” You asked.
“It’s not working out, y/n” Hope lied.
“Hope, tell me the truth why you are breaking up with me,” You said.
“I don't owe you an explanation, y/n,” Hope said.
Hope walked away and you couldn't hold your tears back. Hope’s eyes get watery and she tries to hold them back.
You lock yourself in your bedroom, Josie and Lizzie walked into your room, and they see you crying. They sit by your side
“Y/n, what's wrong?” Lizzie asked.
“Hope dumped me,” You said.
“Oh,” Josie said.
They hug you tight. You tell them how you and Hope started to date, then they told you they were spying on you. But you are not mad at them.
---
Days passed since Hope broke up with you. You continue to practice your magic skills with your sisters. You haven't spoken to Hope and you still feel hurt. Hope does ignore you but she misses you a lot. After your training, you locked yourself in your room. Your dad walked in
“Y/n are you doing okay?” Alaric asked.
“I don't want to talk about it,” You said.
“It’s not good to hold it in. When you want to talk about it, I will be here for you and so will your mom” Alaric said.
“Thanks,” You said.
Lizzie and Josie went to speak with Hope.
“Why did you have to hurt him!?” Lizzie yelled.
“What?” Hope asked.
“You broke Y/n’s heart. Why?” Josie asked.
“It’s none of your business” Hope said.
“It's our business. He is our big brother and we will protect him no matter what. Why did you do it?” Lizzie said.
“I want to protect him-”
“Cut the crap. This whole thing, breaking up to protect someone is stupid. You could have come up with a plan with him. Geez, you two are stubborn” Josie said.
“It's true” Lizzie said
✯ ✬ ✯ ✬
Malivore unexpectedly showed up and he started to attack the school with his minions. You and the others are trying to stop Malivore. You are using your magic to block attacks on your sisters and Hope.
“Lizzie, try to get the kids out of here and take them somewhere safe,” You said.
“What about you?” Lizzie asked.
“Don’t worry about me. Josie and I got a plan to slow him down” You said.
“Do it fast” Lizzie said.
“I will,” You said.
You use your magic to protect Lizzie from Malivore.
“Just give up, we all know how it will turn out,” Malivore said.
“What, you can see the future?” Hope asked.
“Something like that. You are getting on my last nerves” Malivore said.
You and Josie combined magic to stop him. The attack semi-worked but Malivore isn't dead yet.
He used magic to attack you and Josie. Hope tries to use her magic to attack but he was going to stab her. You pushed Hope out of the way, Malivore’s dagger goes through your chest.
“Y/n!!!” Hope yelled.
Josie runs to your side and she tries to stop the bleeding. She starts to cry
“Y/n, don't close your eyes. We need you” Josie cried.
“It hurts,” You said.
“Try to stay awake, mom and dad will know what to do. You can't leave us” Josie cried.
Lizzie comes out and she sees what is going on. She runs to your side and she starts to cry.
“Josie, use your magic to heal him,” Lizzie said.
Josie tries to use her magic to heal you but it didn't work. You stopped breathing
“Y/n?” Lizzie said.
Lizzie starts to shake you.
“Lizzie, he is gone” Josie cried.
“No! He isn't gone!” Lizzie yelled.
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The next day, everyone went to your funeral. Hope blames herself and Josie too, Josie thinks if she tried harder to save you then you would be alive. After the funeral, Josie and Lizzie can hear Alaric and Caroline arguing and blaming each other for your death.
“Stop arguing, it won't bring y/n back,” Lizzie said.
“Sorry. You are right us arguing won't bring him back” Alaric said.
“We will be okay. We just need time to grieve” Caroline said.
“Whatever” Lizzie said and walked away.
Lizzie went to look for Josie and Hope is crying alone.
✯ ✬ ✯ ✬
You wake up and you're breathing hard. You are in your coffin and you are starting to freak out. You scream for help but no one can hear you, due to the thunderstorms. You start to break the coffin with your bare hands. It took a while but you struggled to get out of the coffin and the ground. You are breathing extremely hard and you lie on the grass. You start to smile and you sat up, start to look around.
Caroline is spending time with her daughters. MG and Kaleb are checking up on Hope. Hope hasn't opened up to anyone not even to Lizzie and Josie. Kaleb and MG are trying hard to tell Hope it's not her fault.
You are covered in mud and you walk through the school.
“Y/n?” Hope said.
MG ran to get Lizzie and Josie.
“He is a zombie!” Pedro yelled
“I’m not a zombie,” You said.
“Prove it,” Kaleb said
“Dude, I'm covered in mud, and my eyes at still the same,” You said.
“It’s really you,” Hope said
You nod. Lizzie and Josie are happy to see you, your mom hugged you. Lizzie and Josie did hug you and they are happy to see you.
“But how are you alive?” Josie asked.
“I don't know,” You said.
“I can explain. It happened to someone I used to know. His vampire genes kicked in, it took days for his body to heal. Now he must be starving and craving for blood” Caroline said.
“Yeah, I am craving for blood. But first” You said.
You walked towards Hope and kisses her in front of everyone.
“Sorry for the mud” You smiled.
You clean her lips
“I forgive you about the mud,” Hope said.
---
Your mom has been teaching you how to be a vampire. She gave you a daylight ring and you put it on.
“Thanks. The ring looks so cool” You said.
“Never take off the ring no matter what. So tell me about, Hope” Caroline said.
“She is amazing and I care about her a lot. She is beautiful, smart, and a badass. Are you okay with the relationship?” You said.
“I got to know her a little bit. She does seem like a nice girl and she is strong. She makes you happy then I'm okay with the relationship. Y/n I want you to be happy” Caroline said.
She hugged you and you smiled at her. Later, you went to see Hope and she is happy to see you. You and Hope are officially back together. You and Hope are at the lake, just having fun together. You're happy that you don't have to hide the relationship.
#x male reader#male!reader#hope mikaelson x reader#Hope Mikaelson x male reader#hope mikaelson imagine#legacies imagine
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Hosie vs Hizzie - analyze
quick disclaimer: haven't watch the third season yet
This is my personal opinion, based on how I viewed the characters in the show Legacies. Feel free to interact, but do so nicely and respectfully!
spoilers below the cut
Josie's character seemed flat, to be honest. There isn't much going on about her, except that she feels shadowed by Lizzie and that she's the kind, good twin. She is easily swept under the influence of dark magic because jealousy, she is always in need of saving and puts people in danger for it, causing Hope to risk an unnecessarly lot for her while she offers nothing to Hope in return. And while love is unconditional and given freely and purely, not expecting anything in return, in a relationship (or potential relationship) each end should bring something to it.
Therefore, there is a total lack of chemestry between them. Not to mention that both girls admit they only had a passing crush on each other, feelings never showed as growing past it. Also, there is the fire incident. When Josie was younger and wrote a confession letter to Hope, saying how she liked her more than a friend, she panicked and burned Hope's room. Everything she owned, every piece of palpable memories she had of her family (most importantly dead parents and uncle), gone. And yes, it was an accident of a young, unexperienced witch, but Josie never apologised for it, or at least admited that it was her fault until she was forced to by circumstances. She let Hope and Lizzie be at odds with each other for years over that fire incident because of it. I don't think Hope should be in a relationship with her, or at least not yet, seeing how Josie clearly has a lot to sort through on her own plate and she hadn't even started.
While Lizzie is not pleasant towards Hope at the beginning, behaviour she owns and is aware of, she is showed to feel remorse and want to better herself, as well as admitting her faults and trying to make up for them. Most of this happens after she starts to warm up to Hope, though I wouldn't exactly say it is because of her.
In regards to Hope, the path is smoothened by circumstances until the truth of the fire comes out. But their friendship grows beautifully, from the labyrinth where they work together and bond, to the therapy episode in which they help each other a great deal, being the reason each managed to get out. They have good chemestry, developing in every scene. They go from rivals to friends and maybe more, creating a deep, wonderful bond over fights and shared experiences as well as understanding each other fully (one of the examples: Lizzie feels left out by her father, something Hope can totally relate to)
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Legacies seasons 1 & 2 had such fun monster-of-the-week things but the main big bad of Legacies have been such major FLOPS.
Still better than Teen Wolf's weird pacing issues but that's not saying a lot.
Golden Trio version 1 (Hope, Lizzie, and Josie) with bonus squad: Kalen, MG, Raf, and Landon were great and Triad as the main big bad for s1 was Great Actually. Tapped into the Legacies theme of the show bringing in MG's connection to the group via his mother.
The happy days before we realized that the show would continue to re-use Malivore and the Necromancer over and over and over and over and over and over again.
Plots and characters threaded together.
Except for the part where I wish Hope was there during the siege more.
Season 2 had a great build-up to the Dark Josie arc with bonus Kai Parker providing more chaos. Building more relationship dynamics between Hope and Lizzie (my favorite!), I did actually like Josie and Landon. I know that's unpopular but they were sweet together.
Raf, unfortunately, is just reduced to re-living his traumas and then used as a puppet for Necromancer shenanigans. I hate it.
I know fans hated season 2, which I still find confusing since it felt like a fun season to me.
And then season 3 happened. The first time I watched in real-time and the season was plagued with the covid stoppage, and they were off to a bad start where they did the thing where 'Hope didn't wake up because she felt Landon was dying'.
Started out stupid, continued to be stupid culminating with Hope killing Landon. Also, I guess that was an advertisement for safe sex and how everyone should have protection during sex.
It's like when D'avin temporarily killed Sabine in Killjoys because they had unprotected sex.
Cribbing with Buffy in all the wrong ways and ensuring that Hope will never have a healthy relationship with sex again. A weird thing for a show set in a universe where it didn't have a weird hang-up over sex.
And now their strongest character in the TVD 'verse has that hang-up. I would never guess the one thing Hope would have over Buffy is a bigger hang-up regarding sex, but the Legacies writers did that.
Also doesn't give me the greatest confidence the episode where Hope a) has sex for the first time and b) kills her first love with her sex was written by Brett Matthews, current Legacies showrunner.
In season 2 they had a much better take on having sex for the first time. Maybe Barbara Brandon should've directed that episode instead of the white guy.
I miss Marguerite McIntyre (sheriff Liz Forbes) writing for Legacies.
Finally, in season 4 they're getting their groove back and I love, love how the show is setting up Hope and Lizzie on the opposite sides of the war. First by choice, and now because of the brand with Aurora, by coercion. It's some good food.
Unfortunately, Landon is still stuck in limbo and I like the kid he doesn't deserve to be there and every time it goes to the limbo scene I zone out. Because it's so Damned Boring and disconnected from everything else. I know they might connect it in some way but god, is it such a snooze fest.
I'm not a fan of Josie leaving the show but I loved Josie and Lizzie's last scene together because it broke my heart but also gave me such strong first Doctor to Susan goodbye vibes: "One day, I shall come back. Yes, I shall come back. Until then, there must be no regrets, no tears, no anxieties. Just go forward in all your beliefs, and prove to me that I am not mistaken in mine."
I do like they're changing Cleo's powers in a way that they won't always rely on Cleo to give inspiration or save the group's ass in a way that's reminiscent of how the MF gang relied on Bonnie. (In a highly negative way -- Bonnie deserved better).
HIRE VARDEMUS FOR THE SALVATORE SCHOOL PLS.
Alaric needs another adult (who isn't Ted and the Necromancer) to talk to and it showed in 4x14.
Plus real!Vardemus actually worked a lot better than Clarke!Vardemus, which isn't a surprise.
#tv: legacies#thinky thoughts#legacies rewatch#hope mikaelson#lizzie saltzman#josie saltzman#landon kirby
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My thoughts for Legacies 315:
1) for the Star Wars, I have no knowledge about it, I saw some parallels of characters after the episode, it seems accurate, but I still have no idea why Hope’s characters in it didn’t even have a backstory or name lmao. I’m just overall unfazed;
2) the background of the trio and Alaric! There are like so much to address and I don’t know how to fully share my thoughts in-depth organisedly. I’ll try;
3) facts first: so it’s canon that Lizzie’s mental problem is diagnosed at earliest 11, but specific time unknown;
4) Jed activated his curse earliest at 11, since Lizzie had a crush on him for two weeks. I mean who would’ve thought that, common headcannons seem to incline on Josie x Jed tho😂. That just doesn’t randomly cross my mind🤣. Anyway, it doesn’t deny that Jed and Josie could be a thing too, since the twins often have the tendency to crush on the same person? I’m feeling like 60% of the time? I mean they obviously have the same preferences for LI, bad girl or bad boy type, anyone? Rafael, Sebastian, Jed, Jade, Penelope, Hope, Finch. They kind of have this thing with new people to their lives, for Josie, Rafael, Finch, Jade(it’s arguable but I think people tend to have a whole new lens when reconnecting with a disappeared person in your life for years when you’re very young. The perspectives are not the same, like you’re meeting a new person especially you don’t really know them before);
5) especially Lizzie, she definitely has a thing for new people that seems like bad boy/girl. I emphasised on the new people here bc I don’t think ethan is exactly that type, it’s just how Lizzie imagine him to be in that AU. Raf, Sebastian, Ethan....(maybe Jed was new when she crushed on him too, who knows), more specifically, it’s Strangers to Lovers trope for her romance department, so she can imagine as much as she wants and have the wildest dreams (bgm intended). Maybe Josie’s it’s not as much like this considering we don’t know how Posie happened, and with Hope her crush is canon when she was 12, but we don’t know how long exactly the crush was and when did it started, I just have to count that not being new person into her life. But I do get that why Josie said Lizzie always get the boy/girl Josie crushed on too, mostly they have the same type and preferences. Though they can randomly blurt out characters that we all don’t even know as more solid examples.;
6) Alaric and the fact of him being quite an absent father since the twins were 11 is solid canon. I understand the need to care for Hope because the world can’t afford a tribrid went uncared for and went around killing people, but still, the different perspectives of Hope and Lizzie to Alaric are very sad. To think that your father would betray you for another child, is very sad, even for Lizzie, the more dramatic one. So I understand that Caroline wasn’t there for the twins either, another absent parent. About the mother figure being diminished here, I’ll address it in another point. What’s left for Lizzie? Josie.
7) So basically Josie had to handle herself and Lizzie’s all by her own? That’s very hard! My BFF is bipolar, we are not living together, but before, my whole situation [for being in love with her + her situation] had really been hard for me too. I couldn’t imagine what’s it’s really like for Josie. (Another point that I need to address is the real mental problem that Lizzie has) Sure Alaric might not always be absent, but the intensity of Lizzie’s perspective begs to differ. Josie had to understand what is Bipolar at a very young age; had to be there for Lizzie when she had her outburst; had to be the one constantly check on Lizzie whether she had taken her meds; had to digest the emotion impacts from Lizzie after the outburst; had to understand how Lizzie functioned when she was down. None of that are easy, and there’s no one there to ask of what Josie really feels. How Josie pent out? What does she need? Josie might feel the need to be not wanting things and always be good so that she can get the love from Alaric (I remember in season 1, Josie felt the need to lose the game to get on Alaric good side) . So she just started to suppress her voice and her needs, because Lizzie need them the most. Over time or years of suppressing in front of her dearest family, she most likely felt unneeded by her parents, and forgettable to her parents(the girl that’s so quiet that her parents forget about her, the girl that Penelope won’t fight for anymore). She needed to feel needed, so she just let Lizzie take all of her, from whom she felt needed the most. So all of these from Josie’s perspectives, it started a vicious cycle for the twins. And leads to how the twins dynamics and how Josie are in present days. But her problem was never solved, they just accumulated day by day, year by year, leaving the good and dark side from Josie being so separated and unbalanced. The inner turmoil is always there. These lead to the extreme polarity of Josie’s good and bad side. When she’s doing bad, Josie would be especially aggressive than she needed to be because that’s an instinct to compensate the lack of action before. After long suppression, once being released, the instinct would be stronger than usual and harder to get it under control. Under the influence of dark magic, Dark Josie felt like another personality inside Josie here to take over the whole Josie and protect their interests that true Josie are neglecting. Kind of like dissociative identity disorder but not really it?? It’s just an understanding that I’ve been wanting to express, but so hard to organise it, because it’s so complex. By this understanding, I do still think that Josie should still be held accountable for her actions, even when dark magic was influencing her, like even people with mental health illness should be instituted and lost their freedom. I just think that it’s not fair to think she’s straight up very evil and do nothing good for people. It’s not like she’s being dark for no reason at all. This just mean that the dog that doesn’t bark can be more harmful than people think. These doesn’t mean that when Josie goes dark, she doesn’t deserve any leniency at all while holding her accountable. (And it’s not like she’s not beating herself up for most of the things she had done) Oh and sure, Josie should do the healthy way of voicing out these needs and all, to encourage a healthy dynamics between them like she’s the only healthy one between them, but still the problem is, they both lack the environment and guidance to make a healthy working relationship between themselves. How could they know what is healthy when the environment was already lack thereof.
8) Reading Lizzie’s diaries is bad, I understand, because you literally need to understand what leads to what, to gain control when your life is a chaos, but still. It’s even worse when you have that need to confide in another person to get things out wrongly. (I was having a phone call during the diary sharing review, but this is what I vaguely get) a) Josie is confiding the contents very specifically to another person that Hope can somehow reconstruct a sequel to it? b) Josie chose the wrong place to confide it since when she gets emotional, people can probably hear what was shared. At least from what I guess I got, it isn’t stated that she spread it to the whole school nor it was spread to the whole, even if that’s the case, it may not be on purpose, and she chose the wrong person to confide in. Like about the reveal in 112, she made up that Hope talking bad about Lizzie to the whole school, but it doesn’t mean that she spread it nor the whole school actually knows. Another case is, even if the school knows, it could easily be known by any passerby to Lizzie outburst and spread in the school. From what we saw from 101, the kitchen is a public space, the utensils and cutleries breaking should be very alarming, and there are students with intensified senses in the school. By that fact itself, it doesn’t really help Lizzie in being discreet of her illness. Still, sharing your sister’s diaries after reading it is really bad. But I do get that, sometimes you really need to talk to someone that know some of the situation but don’t really know the person in question to recalibrate yourself. But that person have to be like the dead end of all school gossip but not close to Lizzie, so it can do no harm (because he/she/they literally have no use to talk to someone with all these, usually there’s this no name policy, but with Lizzie being her sister, it’s useless hiding, maybe) when you disclose something related to her pertaining your own issues. Josie should apologise for sharing Lizzie diaries, even if Hope was not meant to know that, despite her werewolf hearing. For the reading part, did we get the apology tho? I guess we had? If negative, apologies needed.;
9) From Lizzie perspective, we can see her does Josie wrong but didn’t apologise either. Like Lizzie being princess but Josie being her android, personalised valet? It just showed that during that period of time(specifically from when until when tho, that’s a question), after what Josie had been enduring, taking care of her, Lizzie thought of herself being princess but didn’t actually think Josie as her equal? Like how the Android was programmed to bow to Lizzie? That’s just the habit of the twins dynamic showing, also partly Josie mistake, but Josie does deserves to be perceived as more than that, even when she’s derogatory to herself, Lizzie should uphold that for her. Their dynamics is just sad because it’s not entirely the twins fault, it’s also due to the absent parents in the household, they didn’t know better, they can only depend on each other. They’re orphaned like Hope in a way when their parents are still present. Even though they have privileges as Alaric’s daughters, but that doesn’t help with their real situation. This is just a perfect example of how your family shaped you, but we can still fight to shape ourselves after the power that our parents have over us gradually diminished, like how they’re starting to shape themselves more now as they’re coming to age.
10) What really warms me from the Android situation, despite Josie feeling like she’s being degraded the whole time, a subject to Lizzie, is that from how Josie is the combination of two Androids, also shows that how Lizzie actually looked up to Josie. Maybe it’s not addressed, but I see that. For Lizzie, Josie can really do so much things for her, take care of her so closely that Lizzie can count Josie as her personal valet. Derogatory, yes, but that place is also very important to prince and princess, bc they can literally do nothing to take care of their daily lives themselves well, like Merlin for Arthur (I mean the actions, not the presumably romantic relationship). Without Merlin, Arthur life is a mess! And the knowledge for Android part, it means that in Lizzie’s mind, Josie actually is like the person who knows everything😂 usually that figure should be our parents😭, but for Lizzie, it’s Josie, like she knows the answer to all. It’s sad and warming at the same time. Just more appreciation will do! And the fact that the special sword that they’re finding the whole time was in Josie’s thigh, just show how the trust that Lizzie had in Josie, not even their parents can triumph it, because Josie was the one being there the whole time. So they really deserves each other despite all the shitty things they have done to each other.
11) about Lizzie mental illness, I was recommended a post informing people about how Legacies fucked up Lizzie’s illness. After my own research, I do agree with the OP, I think that Lizzie situation is more like borderline personality disorder rather than bipolar, but that doesn’t make the whole situation easy. I can provide the table I made the next time regarding that.
12) Hope being Lizzie’s villain is really fitting, lmao, the intensity of Alaric care for Hope is so much that even Lizzie thought that Alaric would betray the twins for Hope.
13) I like Hope’s look. Josie being the Android that malfunction sometimes is funny too, especially when Josie is angry the whole time, cuz it’s infuriating too🤣🤣
14) Hope and Josie during Lethan kiss is me. How they’re totally in the same team when Lizzie being like that? Hosie are both wary of their characters and backstory? Hosie rights. Hhhhhh, oh Hope might be jealous of Ethan😂 Hizzie rights.
15) Another Hizzie rights, Hope wrote a sequel to Lizzie fanfic. And..... is Hope officially a nerd too???? I can’t! Hhhhh but maybe not, or else Hope would have known who she was.
16) Lizzie says, maybe deep down I still feel that you’re the chosen one (IN HER OWN STORY)
17) Younger Hope kind of break my heart more. It’s so sad😭😭 how she’s in denial of their parents death, and blame it on herself.....no baby. How Hope just have to tell herself all that again. And about Hope being scavenger, I think it’s fitting too. Her life, like the twins, is in pieces too. She had to pick them up herself, and build a world where her heart and hope can rest safely, and that just make her not mad at Josie burning down her room gayer. She was so closed up to herself that her room is like another world for her. So forgiving Josie just because of her crush, is like Josie and her crush on Hope meant the world to her???? Hosie rights! Anyway, Josie still messed up with that.
18) Having Younger Hope saying those things to Josie, oh my heart! Josie is a protector for Hope! Hosie rights! And Hope knowing the truth to stop Lord Marshall! Malivore, and Josie just stop talking because she doesn’t want to encourage Hope to die😍😍 Younger Hope actually wants to be best friends with the twins!!!!
19) Hope literally just stop growing taller after 12/13 like I did, is fact! And I’m comforted by that, sorry not sorry, lmao!
20) For real I don’t understand why Hope is suddenly full tribrid at the end. When she fights with Malivore.
21) The gun fight and sword fight is so weird! It’s like the gunners don’t know how to shoot at all, like they’re in slow motion, difficultly level easy to the audience, it’s so fake. I’m for Hope being badass, but it seems like the show doesn’t know how to portray a good fight scene. The sword fight is like in slow motion. And if Hope is to combine magic with sword fighting, she should combine them more. I don’t feel she’s badass at all, cuz it’s literally level easy😑
22) Star Wars AU have brought up so many childhood unresolved for the trio to understand each other more and be a better team. I love them ended up being all supportive and the panda promise🤣🤣 I love that the twins just agree not to let Hope die like that. But they’re like promise that a little later than Cleo and Landon? My team Sowanby! Applause to Handon, but please don’t be together again! Strike three, no is no!
23) for MG, Jed, Kaleb, they really need to make up with each other, I’m glad that they finally made it. And Kaleb being jealous of Methan? Lmao! And MG didn’t even say Ethan name? I love Maleb bonding, and MG never left his man behind!! Another things is, what’s wrong with those boys fighting scenes? We saw them throwing valuables to distract the monster again?! What if the keys are damaged? How are you going to go home? Oh and Jed being useful!
24) Jed last name is Tien, 田/填 in Chinese, I’ve shared enough in my other post. But still WE DONT ACTUALLY HAVE JED FIRST NAME! Give us that!
25) Still, I don’t understand how the wendigo is not dead yet. And how come it’s defeated by fire this time??
26) I don’t quite actually know what’s happening with Dorian. Is he okay? I bet he is, so Emma is coming back, right? Based off what the conversation is? We need Emma, really.
27) regarding Emma, is the lack of mother figure that I want to address when stating the twins dynamic. I don’t actually know a lot from TVD or TO, I just happen to know some general things and snippets from edits. But I know Hayley’s words before she dies, like “I’m not going to teach my daughter it’s okay to let people she loves die” and paint art, have at least one epic love? But for real, in legacies, all I get for Hayley is 103, Josie paying her respects, but none other than that. It’s all Klaus. I believe that Hayley is an important figure to Hope too. But she’s not mentioned enough, it’s kind of erasing her impact on Hope?? Like Caroline too, we get her phone calls, the twins trip to Europe to treat their problems off-screen, the letter for Lizzie in 302, the recommendation for Lizzie to go to the witch retreat, but not vetted by Alaric.....yes she get all these and Jo Laughlin being there in 106 (I cried so hard). But still the mother figure is still being minimised. Like in Lizzie’s fanfic there’s never a place for Caroline? How surreal? It doesn’t make sense. (I understand the actress is just not returning). But still these doesn’t change the fact that the show is lacking a mother figure as a whole. Emma should be that.
28) Clarke!!! Like it’s predictable! But what’s unpredictable is that he went straight to shower🤣🤣🤣 I love his snarkiness! Clarke meeting Hope half naked! Holarke! Hhhhhh
I’m too tired, sharing this episodes thoughts is exhausting me. There must be something I left out, please feel free to remind me!
#legacies season 3#legacies cw#hope mikaelson#josie saltzman#lizzie saltzman#alaric saltzman#milton greasley#ethan machado#kaleb hawkins#jed (legacies)#jed legacies#Jed Tien#dorian williams#legacies#justice for jed#hosie#hizzie#methan#hope x josie#holarke#handon#sowanby
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CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR 1x1 PARTNERS.
Fandomless or fandom based. I am not one that has a lot of ocs to offer but am a fan of oc x canon ships or would be willing to make an oc with someone as well.
Canon characters I play ( have experience playing )
Freya Mikaelson
Hayley Marshall
Hope Mikaelson
Caroline Forbes
Lizzie Saltzman
Canon characters I play ( have little experience playing ).
Josie Saltzman
Elena Gilbert
Katherine Pierce
Isabella Swan
Rebekah Mikaelson
Klaus Mikaelson
Elijah Mikaelson
Romantic ships preferred / wanted
Hope / Landon
Hope / Josie
Hope / Lizzie
Hope / Lizzie / Landon
Hope / Josie / Landon
Klaus / Hayley / Caroline
Jo / Caroline
Caroline / Hayley
Caroline / Elena
Caroline / Bonnie
Hayley / Klaus
Hayley / Freya
Josie / Finch * If we wrote it out / explored more
Rebekah / Hayley
Platonic / Family relationships
Mikaelson family
Hayley / Hope
Liz / Caroline
Lizzie / Josie
Fandoms I know / can write in with characters
Once Upon a Time
Descendants
Legacies / The originals / vampire diaries
Hunger Games
Divergent
Twilight
Supernatural
Greys Anatomy
Rules.
No smut, fade to black only. Anything where the clothes come off is where I am like “skip” for my comfort. Have written smut in the past but not interested in this moment. This could change in the future but for now? I’m not interested
Female x Female is heavily my interest as someone that is gay. Would prefer to write female/female with other queer people.
No hateful messages or rp partners. No one that is going to be pushy for replies either.
I wouldn’t mind small group type of things either. Like three of us all writing together.
If you want to do something inspired by another show? Let’s do it. So like Meredith/Addison from Greys inspired but make it Caroline/Elena instead.
Fine with OC x Canon ships as well. Would hands down be fine with it as long as the character has information up.
Multi para, single para, text threads, etc are welcomed.
Would love to find rp partners that are into doing several types of verses / wants more than one world. Understand if you aren’t interested and would prefer it to be a singleton kind of life.
Discord is preferred for this call. I’ll make a server and we can both edit it to our hearts desire. No one else is allowed to enter the server that isn’t apart of the rp.
No gross / taboo subject matter. I can’t believe I have to write this down but feel comfortable writing this all out so everyone
All writing partners must be +18. We should talk about rules and things together before getting started. Maybe even put a rules doc in the server for us so we know what was discussed before hand.
All muses being +18 as well.
Icons / gifs can be used in the server. I will follow suit if you use them.
Nothing overly formatted with like double space when it comes to replies. Aside from that? I don’t care how you do things.
Reply time on things: 1 day to 1 month. I’m not saying we gotta move fast paced always. I actually don’t mind if things take even longer between replies. I do like the idea of headcanoning between replies so even if we aren’t writing? Sending each other messages would be awesome.
Types of roleplays interested in; small town, slice of life, supernatural, adventure, world building, royalty inspired, etc.
If this interests you, COMMENT on this post and let me know what has your interest. I’ll message you my disco information / give you a server and we will start things.
Plot ideas I’ve reblogged
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Kaylee Bryant On "Legacies," The Importance Of Queer Rep On TV, Hosie, And More
"I have so many people constantly telling me that watching Josie on the show has made them feel more comfortable in themselves."
This week, Kaylee Bryant squeezed us into her schedule to talk about their role as Josie Saltzman on Legacies. As a huge Josie fan, I couldn't think of a better way to spend a morning than talking to Kaylee about The Vampire Diaries, Hosie, our favorite books, and more! Here's everything we talked about:
1. What was your audition for Legacies like?
My audition process was very interesting because they kept a lot of it a secret. I had no script and a fake character name. And then I had my second audition, a chemistry read, which Jenny Boyd [Lizzie] wasn't even at. I walked in and immediately just flat-out asked, "This is for the twins, right?" So it was long, but short and intense at the same time.
BuzzFeed: Wait, did you know which twin you were going to be playing?
I initially auditioned for Josie, and then during chemistry reads, they started asking me to read for Lizzie. And then we had our final callback where I finally met Jenny and we both read for both roles. They never told us [who was playing who] until Jenny had her appointment to go dye her hair blonde.
2. What's a typical day on set like?
Gosh, it changes every time. If it's a busy day on set, we're talking like 8 a.m. call time where we spend about two hours on hair and makeup and go straight into rehearsals. If it's a big sort of episode that involves stunt work and wire work, you're talking about doing maybe two scenes in a day. But if it's an average day, we can do anywhere from three to five scenes and we can start at 8 a.m. and wrap at 8 p.m. It really depends. I'm surprised if I'm not surprised.
3. You’ve said you’re a huge fan of The Vampire Diaries. Josie played Elena in the musical episode — what was that like?
It was surreal for sure. They had talked a little bit about doing a musical episode since Season 1. And I always thought that they were joking when they talked about doing Salvatore: The Musical!, so when they said Josie would obviously play Elena, I was like, "Hahaha." And then I got the script and realized I actually was playing Elena. The musical aspect of it was the easy part. The difficult part was, I think, getting into the iconic Elena attire and trying to feel normal. Because we have a lot of crew members that worked on The Vampire Diaries, and they kept coming up to me being like, "This is weird. I feel weird."
4. Do you have a favorite scene you’ve filmed with Courtney Bandeko (Finch) this season?
I really did love the scene that we had in the town square [when] we got on a moped. There were so many fans in the town square that were huddled in the rain — it was pouring rain, freezing cold — trying to snap photos of us. And it was kind of one of those surreal moments where it felt full circle, that I was on a Vampire Diaries spinoff in town square. It was a lot going on, but it was a lot of fun. It's always fun working with Courtney.
5. You and Danielle Rose Russell (Hope) also have amazing chemistry — what’s your favorite scene you’ve filmed together?
Oh gosh, we have a lot that are pretty amazing. Honestly, I'd say [Season 3] Episode 14 — we finally got to do a lot more scenes together. And it's always fun, especially when it's Josie, Lizzie, and Hope, because we have so much history character-wise. Any time you really get to dive into that, we love it.
6. I know Josie and Finch are working through some things right now, but I gotta ask — how do you feel about Hosie?
I love it. Danielle and I loved the idea of Hosie starting from Season 1, and we kept asking and asking and asking for it. So it's kind of funny and full circle that now the fans have kind of taken our side with things, and now they won't stop asking for it. All we want is this beautiful, dynamic relationship. And I think that the fans want that as well.
BuzzFeed: Yeah, I mean, people have even been asking me about Hosie, and I don't work on the show!
Oh, I'm sure! [Laughs] Obviously I love it, though.
7. Is there a particular Josie moment you’re really proud of?
Josie has a scene coming up in Episode 18 — or 19? — I don't know, but it's good. It's sort of the pinnacle of everything that Josie has felt over the past three years kind of culminating into one moment. So, I'm excited for people to see it.
8. You recently came out as queer. How has playing Josie, who’s pansexual, impacted you personally?
I felt a lot of pressure when I initially booked Josie because I was still figuring out who I was and what my label was. And playing a character who was so comfortable in who she was, it was inspiring [to me] in a way that I think a lot of other people watching the show have been inspired. I have so many people constantly telling me that watching Josie on the show has made them feel more comfortable in themselves. It's kind of amazing that we all have the same experience in that having queer representation makes you more comfortable.
9. You’ve been vocal about your Asian identity, and your character has spoken Japanese on the show. Did you have a hand in incorporating that into Josie’s character?
No, not at all! So, I spoke Japanese a few times on the [Instagram] Live and one of our writers, Penny Cox, saw me speaking Japanese and immediately went to Brett [Matthews] and was like, "We need to make this happen somehow." And then all of a sudden, I had a script in my hands. So it was a surprise, but a fun one.
BuzzFeed: Are you fluent in Japanese?
Gosh, no! I'm barely fluent in English. [Laughs] I would say I speak at the level of maybe a second-grader on a good day, though.
10. If you could pitch any storyline for Josie, what would it be?
I always joke that I want an episode that takes place overnight. That way, we all have to be wearing pajamas the entire episode. I just want to wear some comfy clothes for a whole two weeks, that's my main goal. So we can have a pajama episode, that's my pitch.
11. What's it like getting into character for Dark Josie scenes?
It's different in the sense that I know Josie so well. And knowing Josie in turn makes me understand Dark Josie. I have a whole different playlist of music that I listen to for Dark Josie — and I have the wig, which helps a lot with getting into character.
BuzzFeed: Well, now I have to ask what music is on that playlist!
I think "Bury a Friend" by Billie Eilish is a great one for Dark Josie. Also, "Villain" by K/DA is a prime example of a perfect song for Dark Josie, so I listen to that one as well.
12. What's your go-to Starbucks order?
Plain black iced Americano. Aria [Shahghasemi, who plays Landon] says I drink coffee like a sociopath. [Laughs]
13. What TV show are you currently binging?
I just finished watching Alice in Borderland, which is a Japanese show on Netflix. And I know Feel Good Season 2 just came out, so I think that's my next binge.
14. Damon or Stefan?
Stefan! They're both beautiful and I love them very much, but I'm Team Stefan when it comes to Elena.
15. If you could work with anyone from The Vampire Diaries, who would it be?
Ian Somerhalder has a lot of dogs. So, maybe I want to work with him for the sole reason of just talking about dogs. [Writer's note: Kaylee revealed she has two rescue dogs, one whom was sleeping right next to them during the interview! Kaylee described the dogs as "both complete and total nuts," but said she misses them about five minutes after getting into the car to go to work.]
16. Do you think you’re most similar to Josie, Lizzie, or Hope in real life?
I would say I'm an eclectic mix of the three. I can be very headstrong like Hope, very outspoken like Lizzie, and I try to be as loving as Josie, but sometimes that doesn't always work. But I'd like to think all three.
17. Is there a role people would be surprised to learn you auditioned for, but didn't get?
I've been auditioning since I was eight, so there's quite a few Disney Channel shows and movies. And I'm sure people would be surprised because I think I auditioned for like, all of them. It's very funny, one of the first jobs I ever booked in television was Kickin' It with Leo Howard [Ethan]. Talk about full circle — going from being 12 years old and having no idea what I'm doing to being a series regular on [Legacies] and welcoming Leo to the set.
18. Who's your favorite Disney princess?
Oh, I love Mulan so much. She was, like, my first crush ever. I also love Moana, but it's Mulan 1,000%.
19. If you could only eat one food for the rest of your life, what would it be?
I mean, I do eat rice every day. So maybe just white rice — you can make rice into candy and...yeah, let's go with rice.
20. If you were stranded on a deserted island and could only bring one book, what would it be?
Oh no! I recently read The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet by Becky Chambers, and I really enjoyed that book. Oh god, Is that the one that I want to bring, though? I mean, I really enjoyed it and it has many different aspects to it. I don't know. Or should I go with Harry Potter? I go through different genres too, like right now I'm in a big sci-fi phase, but other times I'll go the opposite direction and only read biographies. Yeah, that's super hard. I don't think I would know!
21. On that note, what's your Hogwarts house?
Initially, when I was younger, it used to just be straight-up Slytherin. And now, I recently took the Sorting Hat Quiz and I got Ravenclaw. So I'm going to go with Slytherclaw.
BuzzFeed: What's Josie's house?
Josie would be Slytherin. She tries very hard and, you know, not everyone in Slytherin is evil. She just, you know, has her way of going about things.
22. Has anything super funny or embarrassing happened to you on set?
I trip a lot on set. I get scared very easily — if I come around the corner and somebody is walking the other direction, I get scared. Everybody knows to walk slowly around me because I get scared so easily.
23. What's your wildest fan story?
I've had people cry before. And I'm an empath, so if somebody starts crying, I immediately am like, "Please don't cry, because I'm gonna cry." And then it turns into this whole thing. Once we were shooting in the town square and this young girl with her mom started crying, and I just hugged her and I didn't know what to say. So there's a lot of that. There's also the occasional, "Where's your twin?" and...I don't have one, sorry! But yeah, I would say the people who cry always throw me for a loop.
24. How do you unwind after a long day?
I have an hourlong drive home from work, so I usually listen to a lot of music. And by the time I get home, taking off all of my makeup is very therapeutic. Because over time, we're working 13-hour days, 16-hour days, and it's just powder constantly building up on my face. So, washing my face is always very therapeutic. And then just laying back and reading a book and petting my dog is the best.
25. Is there a celebrity you get told you look like a lot?
Most recently, Sara Waisglass [from Ginny & Georgia and Degrassi]. We follow each other on social media now and I completely messed up because I don't know how Twitter works at all. I forgot that there's a DMing interaction, so we followed each other and I was like, "Oh, that's nice." And then just recently, I saw that she had messaged me being like, "We're twins! We should be friends!" And I immediately messaged back, "I'm so sorry, let's be friends!"
26. Who's your biggest celebrity crush?
Oh, I have so many. But consistently since I saw Orphan Black, Tatiana Maslany. Hands down.
27. Finally, have you ever caught someone watching a TV show or movie that you're in on a flight or anywhere else?
We were all, as a cast, flying to — was it New York Comic Con, or San Diego Comic Con? — one of the Comic Cons. And we were all sitting there and we saw that Legacies was actually on the airplane as an option. And we were all just uncomfortably staring at each other. Yeah, that was surreal.
Be sure to catch Kaylee in Legacies, which airs Thursdays at 9 p.m. ET on The CW!
#legacies#theoriginals#thevampirediaries#tvd#kaylee bryant#josiesaltzman#siphoner#witch#gemini coven#lizzie&josie#saltzmantwins#salvatoreschool#mysticfalls#julieplec#thecw#queer
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Live!Blogging Legacies s4 ep2
oh boy oh boy oh boy time to continue the weekly routine!!!
lesss gooooo
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i really am loving the cleo backstory we're getting
hehehe kaleb/mg fist bump
that was cute
wade?!
hello sir its been a while!!
hgnnnnnnnn
oh look a new headcanon forming
mg listening in on lizzie since this is the first time he's heard anything about ethan so he's missing his boyfriend
no ifs ans or buts
clarke? i have to be forgetting something from the last season
aw man poor cleo
having to rewatch her trauma over and over
:(
i swear if we're poorly attempting to recreate methan with lethan im gonna be hella annoyed
superheros were methan's thing
finsie's really growing on me
i find myself saying 'aw' after every one of their scenes now
ok lizzies not that into ethan
mg's spying on ethan no ifs ans or buts
i dont want any 'oh mg's spying on lizzie' nonono ill stay in denial until the show tells me otherwise
yesssss
i really liked the clarke/mali!landon scene
well hello josie being honest with hope
"i don't need ethan to get in the mix with that again"-MG
told ya
thats all
episodes over for me
jk
...............
please
dont do this
i beg you
NO
WHY
NOOOOOOOOOO
"With your ex-boy wonder" YALL
YALL WANT ME TO BELIEVE MIZZIE YET WE GOT THIS LINE FROM KALEB
ok now i want landon showing cleo everything about star wars when they get out of malivore
so what is clarke like...mali!possessed or something?
apparently so
plz go sit down next to ethan mg
plz
nono mg take ethan back to the school
METHAN REUNION?!
i really hope we see more of landon and cleo's friendship dynamic
"his boy"
"mg's already looking out for your--his boy"
kaleb you got to her in time
take some well deserved credit
you deserve it
lizzie and kaleb friendship rights!!
you know, honestly? this is the first season...since maybe s1 where i actually believe malivore is a legitimate threat
like the pacing in this episode (and the past two) are really doing a good job showing the urgency needed to defeat malivore
thank you clarke
watch, alarics lying bs is gonna catch up to him
mg youre getting your boy back
"you just cant stop yourself from saving people, can you, Essential?" YALL
oh no
honey
bby no
ethan
..................
hoenstly finch is handling this remarkably well all things considering
shes communicating with josie when given the chance
being honest about all her feelings of fear for josie and love for her
and i cant blame her for saying shes not sure she can be in a relationship with her
which, does make sense
i think they'll get back together tho
MALILANDON NO
oh now we're telling the truth
this is what happens when we lie people
nooooooooooooooooo
well......i honestly dunno if ethan’s dead, sucked into malivore, or if this is a legit fake-out and he’s gonna be fine
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So my favorite thing about this episode was (and I briefly mentioned this in the bullet points) how the pacing seems to fit the urgency of the Malivore threat. It reminds me a lot of season 1′s intensity regarding Malivore and I’m glad we’re switching the tone to properly showcase that as the MotW format was hindering the much needed tension.
I think all the main friendships were really strong! We got Lizzie and Kaleb friendship, Josie and Hope friendship, MG and Kaleb, and the one I’m most excited for, Landon and Cleo’s friendship. I’m really glad the show is exploring different friendship dynamic this season, it really helps solidify that the Super Squad really is a legitimate Squad of close friends.
Uh...well, y’all know how I feel about Mizzie and Lethan. Did not like it at all. It all just feels very forced and stupid especially when the strongest dynamic out of all three really is Methan and that should legit be the main ‘relationship’ focus (be it romantic or otherwise at this point).
Those Methan crumbs tho?!?!?! YALL I-
#legacies#legacies s4#live!blogging legacies#hope mikaelson#josie saltzman#lizzie saltzman#mg#milton greasley#kaleb hawkins#ethan machado#cleo sowande#landon kirby#anti mizzie#anti lethan#methan#lizzie x kaleb friendship supremacy#landon x cleo friendship supremacy#also finsie#i really liked finsie this episode#finch tarrayo#legacies s4x2
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Rowing the Rarepair Rowboat: Josie Saltzman x Jed Tien (Legacies)
Requested by anonymous
Josie's laughing. She has been for nearly the last half hour, no matter how serious she keeps trying to be.
"No, no — that's not what it says!" she says, trying to sound stern but only laughing more as Jed continues purposefully messing up the script. She reaches to take it back from him. "Stefan would never say that!"
"It's creative freedom," Jed argues, grinning. His voice only grows more amused as he stretches his arm up further with the script, knowing that she can't reach it but delighting in watching her try. Those stupid four inches of height really do make a difference even sitting down. "Landon took creative freedom just writing this whole thing, so why can't we?"
Josie puffs out a breath, momentarily pausing her attempts. "Because — Landon kept as close to the facts as he could through history books and talking with my uncle Damon, but you—“
She lunges for the script, thinking his guard will be lowered enough for her victory. But Jed has the reflexes of a wolf and immediately stretches his arm higher, switching the script over to his right hand to add even more of an obstacle, and leaving her hands to lunge pointlessly at his wrist. Jed laughs and it's impossible for Josie not to as well, even through her groaning and slumping in defeat.
"—you're just making things up!" she finishes with another huff.
"You don't know that!" Jed insists, his eyes shining with joy at their playful bickering. "Here, listen, I feel like I can really capture Stefan's inner monolouge." He clears his throat theatrically and Josie rolls her eyes even as she bites the inside of her cheek to keep her smile from straying too far at the serious, brooding look he puts on. "I'm so conflicted. Should I tell Elena that I'm a vampire, or should I cover myself in glitter and go out in the sun in front of her in the hopes that she'll catch on?"
"Oh my god, sto-o-op!" Josie exclaims, bursting into laughter again and throwing her head back. "You sound like Uncle Damon!"
"I'm mocking Damon," Jed counters, his mock seriousness cracking to let his grin shine through as he slips back into his dramatic speech, standing up. Josie's eyes widen and she follows him, back to actively trying to retrieve the script from him. "What if she would prefer a sparkling boyfriend? Will I have to lie and tell her Twilight was real for the rest of our lives together?"
"I think she would notice you were lying when you run out of — glitter!" Josie makes another failed lunge for the script. She jumps for it, but Jed quickly switches hands again. "Or when she becomes a vampire as well and realizes that she burns just trying to open the curtains."
Jed hums and nods as if in genuine deep thought, all while still walking backwards and ensuring the script is out of her reach. She's not really trying to get it back anymore. More just making halfhearted lunges for it, only succeeding in grabbing at his arms instead.
"You make a good point," he concedes. "Maybe she'd be willing to settle for me in all of my non-sparkliness." A mischievious glint brightens in his eyes as he looks at Josie and plasters on that brooding look again. "Elena. I'm sorry I don't sparkle."
Josie rolls her eyes. "Are we really doing this?"
Jed raises an eyebrow and gives her a look that says, we are if you play along. And, okay, they have some time to spare for rehearsal. Landon probably won't need them for another half hour while he's going over Lizzie's scenes as their mom and Cleo as Aunt Bonnie. They're having some trouble getting their last duet number done, the one before the wedding after Stefan killed Enzo. It's a whole thing.
So, playing along could be fun.
"You lied to me, Stefan," Josie says, putting on her best impression of her aunt Elena. She tries not to think about how much trouble she would be in for this with her. "You told me it was all real. Was it all just an act? Are you even really allergic to garlic?"
The last part nearly makes Jed crack up on the spot, having to press his lips together. After a calm beat, he gets back into character — or at least the caricatures of them — and looks at Josie with wide eyes, pleading with her.
"I..." He turns his head away dramatically, and in a whisper, says, "No. I'm not."
Josie scoffs and takes a step back as if scandalized. Disgusted.
"Our entire relationship is a lie!" she accuses, a hand on her chest. "Did you plan on running into me that day outside the bathroom? Was this whole thing just some... some twisted, manipulation?"
"No!" Jed steps towards her, hands outstretched to reach for hers, but Josie holds one up in front of her, stopping him short. "No, it was nothing like that. Yes, I — I maybe did run into you on purpose that day, but it's because I already knew how much I cared about you. And when we did meet, those feelings for you only grew stronger."
They are partially taking words from the script, Josie acknowledges, only saying them instead of singing them, and it's only bits here and there. The rest is entirely improvised on the spot, and Josie will admit, she's kind of impressed by how well he's nailing this. She knew he was really excited about getting to play Stefan but she hadn't really thought he put that much thought into it beyond... well, showing off like a lot of the others who auditioned.
"But how can I know that you're telling the truth?" Josie says, shaking her head sadly. She gingerly reaches for the pendant around her neck, fingering it gently as she glances down at it. "You could have gotten in my head without me knowing about it."
"I would never do that to you," Jed insists firmly, trying to catch and hold onto her gaze. "That necklace protects you from any vampire's mind compulsion. I gave it to you to protect you."
"From you?" Josie snaps, her head shooting up and her chin jutting out with a glare.
A mistake, because it gives Jed the perfect opportunity to keep her eyes locked on his. Once they're there, focused on his wide, sad eyes — they're not as dark in this lighting and up this close, they're kind of like a shimmering brown, little lighter brown specks flickering like sparks off of a spell against the darker brown — she can't look away. She's too caught up in it.
"Yes," Jed agrees softly. "From me as well. So you would know, when this moment finally came, that I would never dream of doing anything to hurt you. Not on purpose." He sighs. "You don't have to trust me, Elena, but please believe that I'm telling the truth when I tell you that everything else was real, including... especially my feelings for you."
"How can you be so sure, Stefan?" Josie asks. "How -- how do you know yourself that what you feel for me is real and not just some way for you to hold on to your past?" She steels her stare as best she can, setting her jaw. "To Katherine?"
"Because what I feel for you is beyond anything I ever felt for Katherine," Jed swoops right in, saying the right words in the right voice.
He steps forward and she doesn't back away this time, but tilts her head up, keeping her ground. Then, with perfect calculation, and as smooth as if he does this all the time, he reaches out and rests a hand on either side of her neck, thumbs just barely brushing her jaw. When she says she freezes like a statue, she means it save for the shiver that runs from where his palms are touching her skin, down her spine and up the back of her neck.
"You and her… you're nothing alike," Jed says, softening his voice like melted butter, and Josie swears she's not just staring at him with her mouth open in awe, but she also can't be sure. "You share an appearance, but when I look at you... you're all I see. No one else. Because your heart is what make you who you are, and your soul. And those are things I can feel and see, and they're the reason that I fell in love with you. Because of who you are, the way you think, the way you love and feel so passionately."
He slips a hand up to lightly brush away a stray lock of her hair. His eyes follow his own fingers to tuck it behind her ear. Josie tries to recall if werewolves have heightened hearing because her heart may be turning into a ticking time bomb and she's not too sure why, but something is telling her no one else should be allowed to hear it.
"That's why I love you," Jed repeats, reconnecting with her gaze. "Even if you may never believe that."
This is her cue, a little voice reminds her, suddenly striking an alarm bell that reverberates through her mind and kicks her out of her staring —gazing, it was definitely gazing, Lizzie would call it gazing, for sure.
"I believe you," she breathes out.
Jed blinks in surprise, then a soft smile takes its place. Josie returns it.
Then the Lizzie voice echoes back through her mind, saying, this is the part in the play where you kiss. And that thought absolutely terrifies Josie, because — what? They were just joking around, but it's occuring to her now that come show night, they will be doing this again, for real, and yes, there will be a kiss. A very scripted kiss. No spontaniety.
"Even..." she continues quietly, kicking the train of thought off its tracks and diverting down a safer route, "... if I'm disappointed that you don't sparkle. I was looking forward to having a disco ball for a boyfriend."
It successfully breaks Jed out of character; he laughs and has to look away. Josie almost breathes a sigh of relief with the connection broken. It was like a spell had come over her. She just laughs with him, her shoulders easing down a little from where they had hunched with frozen tension.
Before either of them can speak again, there's an outburst of applause from the doorway. Josie's and Jed's eyes widen as they both quickly look over to find Landon, Lizzie, and Cleo standing there. All three are clapping and wearing bright smiles; Landon's eyes are wide and... in awe, his expression like an excited puppy; Cleo is simply smiling, but there's something in her eyes that dances around the knowing expression; and Lizzie has never looked so smug in her life.
The two of them break apart, Jed quickly pulling his hands back to him then hastily stuffing them in his pockets. Josie fiddles with the pendant around her neck and tries to avoid looking at anyone as her cheeks flush hot and probably red.
"That... was amazing!" Landon is saying, marching right over to them with purpose that gives Josie great anxiety. "You two — oh my god, the chemistry? You have nailed the roles of Stefan and Elena, I mean" —he's looking between them with those wide eyes of disbelief, shaking his head— “if I didn't know better watching that, I would have sworn it was real! You were obviously the perfect choices for this."
Josie's face only flushes harder, more furiously at that comment. She chuckles nervously, and it ends too quickly. When she glances up at Lizzie, she finds exactly the expression she was anticipating. The knowing side-eye, the smirk, the slightly tilted head that says she is definitely getting involved in this. That's going to be a fun conversation.
Meanwhile, Jed rubs his neck sheepishly and tries not to appear too flustered under the many pairs of eyes. "Thanks! Uh, yeah, we were just... practicising. We went a little off-script, sorry about that. Just wanted to get a feel of the characters."
"Oh yeah, I don't doubt you wanted a feel of the characters," Lizzie emphasizes to Josie's mortification. She ignores her do you have to?! look of alarm and crosses her arms. "But... I agree with Landon."
"Yes, you two were incredible," Cleo chimes in, and Josie manages a small smile of thanks back at her when she catches her eyes. "I don't know this Stefan or Elena but with you two playing them, I feel like I do."
Josie's rubbing at her neck now, trying to keep her smile in place as she nods. "Thanks. So, uh, are you guys done rehearsing?"
The quick change in subject does not go unnoticed by either of the girls. Or Jed, who slides her a glance that adamantly avoids catching. Only Landon, who deflates a little but doesn't entirely lose the strangely upbeat thing he has going on at the moment.
"Sort of. For now. We're taking a break," he says. "We've got most of the number down. It's just this bit towards the end, but it'll be all fine. You guys just keep rehearsing — all of you!"
He points a finger at each of them in turn as he starts to back away. Josie's beginning to think his upbeat thing is more of a nervous breakdown thing the more she sees him. It's like he's becoming more and more unravelled with every rehearsal. Understandable, she thinks quietly to herself, it's not exactly easy.
As he leaves the gym, Lizzie turns an arched eyebrow on them. "So, should we leave the two of you to continue rehearsing or—“
"Actually, I have Chemistry — I mean—“ Josie hasn't wished Malivore to swallow her whole so much in her life "—I have class. So, uh..." She turns to face Jed for the first time since they were interrupted and shoots him a smile, asking, "Later? We can, uh, pick back up from... pa-page twenty-three?"
Jed nods, maybe a little too vigorous and frantic. "Yeah, of course!"
"Okay! Good." Josie swings right around, saying, "Bye!" then marches straight towards the door and out of the gym before anyone can stop her.
#legacies#legaciesedit#josie saltzman#jed#jedosie#josie x jed#jed x josie#rowing the rarepair rowboat#myedits*#OKAY BUT I'M INTO THIS CAN YOU TELL#I'm so into this ship now damn it#this is like jedosie + a side of stelena lmao and I loved writing it#I'm technically cheating because this is actually part of a fic I'm writing but shhh#long post#jed tien
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Still Came To You
Hope & Lizzie
Genre: Angst/ Fix it fic
A/N: I honestly was disappointed with how they brought up Sebastian. I just wanted there to be more angst behind it (especially after how heartbroken Lizzie was in that one scene in 3x06) where Lizzie is a little jealous of Cleo so here it is.
The past months haven't been the best for anyone. There was a lot of change happening and some people would think that two years of monsters popping up would have prepared them but even that became a constant in their lives.
Besides Hope, Lizzie was having the most trouble adjusting to things. There was the obvious shift from lively student filled environment to empty halls and rooms, but more importantly it was the relationships in her life that were changing too. Her sister transferred to another and Hope seemed to be moving on from her as well as MG. She couldn't help but realize she was alone, and for someone with codependent tendencies she didn't know how to handle it.
"My emotions needs? My emotional needs?!" Hope repeated in anger filled disbelief. "This is coming from the girl who always puts her emotional needs into the hands of others!"
"Hey! You're the only one going through a rough time right now, maybe you'd notice if you weren't so wrapped up in yourself and your new roomie."
"What the hell does Cleo have to do with this?"
"The moment she's here, she suddenly becomes your new best friend while I've been trying to reach out to you for weeks now and you barely want to talk!"
"Because I just lost my boyfriend, Lizzie!"
"So did I!" She said, offended how Hope was acting like no one could relate to her. "And I still came to you."
"Are you seriously making Landon's death about you right now?!"
"This isn't about Landon!"
"Then what is it about then?"
"I don't know! I just thought that after Josie leaving and messing things up with MG, at least I’d still had you. But I guess I was wrong."
"It's not my fault you can't handle being alone."
Lizzie was taken as those words struck a nerve with her. "Yeah, well you've spent years fine with being alone before Landon so I don't get why now should be any different."
In that one second, Hope was completely taken over by rage and Lizzie knew she messed. Then the next thing they both knew Hope was trying to take an axe to Lizzie before Kaleb stepped in just in time.
"Whoa!" Kaleb said, taking the weapon away from Hope.
"What is going on here?" Cleo asked.
Lizzie looked at Hope with betrayal. "Ask your bestie." she said, before walking off.
Hope watched her with a glare.
"You good, Hope?" Kaleb asked.
"Just take me to the damn leprechaun." she said.
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Reacting to Legacies 3x03 (SPOILERS):
1. So ARE we FINALLY getting to some proper firstborn Mikaelson witch breakdowns?
2. Oh well, apparently no. They'll just try to wave it off as some one time thing probably.
3. So Hope and Landon are on a break. Okay. TBH watching them sass each other is interesting.
4. The guidance counselor is pretty much a compulsion monster, is that it? Well, I do like his wardrobe.
5. Alyssa's concern for MG is so fake I can't.
6. Nobody other than Jed read for Stefan? THE DISRESPECT.
7. Lizzie playing Caroline makes total sense but them asking Josie to play the lead without even an audition looks a bit bad TBH. Like, give the other interested people a chance, at least.
8. I find it a bit repetitive how there are mind-controlling monsters popping out again and again.
9. So MG is basically going through a phase similar to what Cami was going through when Klaus used to compel her at the beginning of TO. Considering Quincy's fondness for Cami, he must have liked playing that.
10. I understand that Landon is supposed to be a capable songwriter in-universe but it takes more than that to write and direct a musical and it's very weird that they didn't even find a guest star to pose as a Drama or English teacher who is guiding him or something. WHERE ARE ALL THE TEACHERS?
11. I kinda feel like some of the lead characters in this show are colour-coded. I see Hope and Landon in red and blue a lot (the two gowns we have seen Hope wearing also fall into this pattern) and Josie wears yellow in like, every other episode. If I recall correctly, Lizzie wears a lot of white, too. I wonder what the reasoning behind these choices are.
12. Well, I liked Hope and Landon's relationship in S1, I have no idea what was going on with it in S2, and I still don't know what to think about it.
13. Lizzie casts herself in Caroline's role and then chokes at rehearsal. Not totally unrealistic but still feels a bit forced to me. Would have been better if Landon cast her because she's Caroline's daughter and Lizzie was a bit apprehensive in the first place because she didn't want to mess up the role.
14. I appreciate the show taking a moment to talk about Lizzie's bipolar disorder though. It's been a while.
15. "Bonnie just disappears for long periods of time"? Dude, she's still super important and you're putting her in the play. Right? RIGHT?!
16. Landon, THANK YOU for pointing out how weird Caroline and Alaric's relationship was. The guy deadass got engaged to her and had a pissing contest over her with Stefan, that will never not gross me out.
17. So the monster is mind controlling Landon to put Klaus into the play. Saw this coming IG.
18. Hope is painting again, like her dad used to do when he felt things were going out of control. I've been rewatching TO and this is making me so emotional. I MISS KLAUS AND HIS SHENANIGANS. And not a single character on Legacies comes close to Klaus, Elijah and Hayley for me. (Sorry if this hurts anyone's feelings but Legacies really is a downgrade from TVD and TO)
19. Ugh, why would he use the contents of the letter as lyrics? Dude, is it because you're mind-controlled? No, I don't like this. Klaus loved Hope to the ends of the earth and wanted everyone to know but Hope wants to keep things private, and her wishes should have been respected.
20. So apparently Landon tries not to put Klaus' villainous antics into the show. Well, okay, it's definitely a copout but since he is Hope's boyfriend, makes sense. But I don't understand why the musical HAS TO BE about the Salvatore school. The accreditation excuse is lazy, writers! Also, Landon, my dude, Klaus was a major donor of the school. Put that in instead of the other things, stop pissing off your girlfriend FFS. Even if you're mind-controlled 🤦🏻♀️
21. I do find it funny how Landon is all gaga over Klaus' use of language though. The guy really did have the best lines, didn't he? (Tied with Elijah, I suppose, for me)
22. The other singers of the first song are really good so Kaylee sounds a bit rusty in comparison. Also, she reminds me too much of Dark!Josie with the hair and makeup. From a distance, she can be mistaken for Nina though.
23. I love that the backstage activities are being shown.
24. I'm digging Jed as Stefan and I really like his singing voice. And the Hero Hair wig cracked me up. Kaleb is obviously good at singing at it's nice to hear more from him. I also like how Chris Lee didn't try to exactly emulate Ian and played Damon how someone who has only heard about him might play him.
25. Is Hope painting herself before the pit or something? Or is this supposed to symbolize her despair at her parents' loss? ALSO, I WANT SOMEONE TO MENTION HAYLEY :( Why is Hayley so ignored?!
26. The same person probably wrote MG's notes and Caroline's letter IRL and therefore, in-universe, MG has Caroline's handwriting and it's funny to me.
27. Jenny sings well, I like it. I don't understand the song though, was Caroline actually ever feeling this insecure? I feel like the song became a lot more about Lizzie than her mother. (It's been forever since I watched TVD, if anyone has yet to guess, I prefer watching TO)
28. The doppelganger thing cracked me up.
29. Wait why did the monster attack Josie?! Ohhhh he's forcing Landon to improvise and put Klaus' song at the end. Well, I guess it makes it seem a bit less like Landon's fault. But would Hope know that?
30. It's hilarious how they lowkey make a call back to Nina leaving TVD and them having to put Elena in a sleep spell though.
31. Landon having a hissy fit is funny to me. Aria needs more comedic scenes.
32. Wait, where did Jade come from? Has she been in the school all these weeks?
33. While the scene seems a bit shabby to me, Klaus talking to Hope reminds me of their scene from TO 4X03. I needed more of Summer Fontana and Joseph Morgan together. Also, the donation did get mentioned, YASSSS. Man did some horrific things but he did fund the school so maybe a little less badmouthing in the presence of his daughter now that you know the story, eh, students?
34. The fact that the guidance counselor actually wore a leather jacket and a henley is cracking me up. It's really bizarre.
35. "Terrible painter" XD Klaus would have eaten you for saying that if he were alive.
36. Um, Hope, wouldn't you ask your family if you are doing enough to make your father proud, instead of this random bloke who supposedly met him once?! Maybe call Freya or Rebekah.
37. Why is this monster being nice to Hope? Doesn't it try to break people up or something? You'd think he'd try to piss her off even more and ruin her relationship with Landon.
38. Stefan was trying to be more like Damon by sacrificing himself? Um, what?
39. Well, this musical at least gave Stefan and Caroline a goodbye scene. I wonder how much the twins remember Stefan, must have been a bit emotional for Lizzie to play that. Jenny's singing was gooood, really liked it.
40. JED WAS GONNA KISS LIZZIE AND I WANTED IT TO HAPPEN. But a forehead kiss does work.
41. Hope's playing Elena now? What?
42. Ngl I want Hope and Jed to be friends. She needs more of a connection to her wolf side. Both of her parents wanted her to be surrounded by wolves and she's barely interacting with the wolves in this show, which always makes me sad.
43. So this monster can also do little spells and move physical objects eh? Whatever, this is random.
44. And this monster brings people back together? Why?
45. So when Hope is singing, is she doing it as Elena or Hope? She came on stage as Elena, but I thought the song is about Hope. So WHAT IS IT?
46. Oh Damon's on stage, so Hope is singing as Elena and it's a call back to the graveyard scene from the TVD finale.
47. Danielle sings pretty well. It's good she decided to perform this time.
48. Okay, that lifting up scene was adorable. I feel like Hope and Landon are at their cutest when they're a bit spontaneous. But she's Elena on stage and it lowkey looks like Landon crashed her romantic scene with Damon to kiss her so I'm cackling.
49. How much older is Jade supposed to be than Josie?
50. So is Josie going to leave the school for a while and that's why Ethan will be back in the picture?
51. Jade used to babysit Josie? Okay, it is hella awkward.
52. Josie why, don't do this, yikes. Kissing her once doesn't make it non-creepy.
53. The Sheriff feels kinda shoehorned to me. Also, I don't care for Matt Davis or his character.
54. So Candice did the voiceover for Caroline's letter. That's nice for the show. I still don't understand why the letter showed up in Hope's fireplace though LOL.
55. This episode should have spent more time exploring the aftermath of the loss of Rafael. The abrupt shift from the last episode wasn't nice.
56. Yeah, kids, talk out your problems, thanks.
57. I feel like Klaus is too much of a controversial figure that Hope's conflict about her father's reputation would be resolved in one day. This is feeling undercooked. Speaking of, when is one of Klaus' or Hayley's enemies coming after Hope, because she did inherit all of them. Would make for better storytelling than this monster of the week nonsense. And yeah, still no mention of Hayley, I hate this.
58. The monster's characterization was really odd to me and I am so tired of this format SMH.
59. So they toyed with MG for weeks to get a vampire for the spell? That sounds like too much effort. There are tons of vampires from Klaus and Rebekah's bloodline, they couldn't find another? Also, I wonder who is the wolf that they will use.
Well, I felt like this episode was mostly okay, but not that well-cooked or epic or whatever. What is horrific is that they didn't show Bonnie, though. They could have at least gotten a female black guest character who is one of the witch students or something. This is very offensive.
Also, I don't think it makes sense for the show to do any more musicals in the future. This ain't Riverdale.
#legacies#legacies cw#hope mikaelson#landon kirby#lizzie saltzman#josie saltzman#kaleb#jed#milton greasley#alyssa chang#jade#klaus mikaelson#hayley marshall#elena gilbert#damon salvatore#stefan salvatore#bonnie bennett#caroline forbes#cami o'connell
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I'm a little ticked off right now. Because when it comes to Hope this is a reacuring thing. That Hope can never feel what she's feeling or deal with it how she needs to. Like for this weeks episode it said "Josie attempts to control Hopes emotions....." 😡 I'm sorry but what. Have much you wanna bet this episode either takes place the morning after the break or a day or two after. And why is Josie trying to control Hopes emotions in the first place?(I mean look how long it took Josie to get over Penelope. And we don't even know how long they were broken for at the start of season 1). How is that even in the realm of okay to try and control what someone is feeling. And it was just released what 3x16 is going to be about. And there was a line that said "Lizzies plan to find Hope a rebound relationship...." 😡😡😡 really Lizzie, really. I know from the end of 3x13 to when 3x16 begins is probably only been like a week an a half, maybe two weeks. Why would Lizzie even make a plan like that. She knows Hope and how much she loves Landon(and does Hope even seem like the type to use someone to help her get over someone else) why would she think Hope would want a rebound or is ready to move on yet.
I mean when will Hopes "friends" learn not to push Hope to move on faster than shes ready to and to just let her feel what she feels and deal with it how she needs to. And imma be even more ticked off if this turns into another thing like when Hope was grieving.
That's not how feelings and emotions work people.
Me too, I’ve just seen the synopsis and stuff about 3x16 and my gosh. (If anyone doesn’t wanna read negativity about Lizzie or Josie, just scroll past this.) Honestly, this all makes me not even wanna watch the next episodes until we can get the last 4. I’ll be watching anyway of course, but I’m just not looking forward to them at all based off of what we know and how the show has always gone. You’re totally right. I cannot believe this keeps happening to Hope. She’s never allowed to feel anything, at least not when it has to do with Landon apparently. Yep, I’m sure the episode will take place right after the breakup, and Hope will be forced to help everyone else again instead of having any time for herself. Because they’ll never let her, or Landon, have even one day to attempt to recover from the trauma they’ve gone through. And yeah, who knows why Josie is trying to control Hope’s emotions. I guess to “help” her, in other words, have an excuse to get her to come help Lizzie when Josie and Alaric should be doing that. Because if Hope takes time for herself and isn’t over Landon immediately, she won’t be able to focus on helping everyone else as usual, and then who will babysit the students and save the day? (Good point about Josie and Penelope as well, I would hope that Josie will be understanding of what Hope is going through.)
But yeah, it’s messed up for anyone to try to control Hope’s emotions, and why on earth does she have to control them? I get if it’s affecting her magic, like in 3x06, and she needs help with that, but otherwise? Just leave her be! She literally just found out that the Landon she’d been with for weeks was fake, had to fight him, believing that the real Landon was gone again, was almost killed by Cleo, then was reunited with the real Landon and learned the truth of what happened, and now she’s heartbroken after their breakup. Realistically, she’d be so traumatized, yet it will all get brushed over and they’ll try to make her get over it immediately, as always. Just let her rest, let her have a day in bed and be able to take care of herself however she needs to. And let her go to New Orleans to be with her family (which is what she should have been doing ever since Landon “died.”) Let Rebekah and Freya and the rest of her family help her, not these kids who clearly don’t really know Hope or how to deal with what she’s been dealing with. (And I know they couldn’t show it without the other actors on the show, but they could at least say that’s where Hope has been.)
And the thing with Lizzie in 3x16 just makes me even more mad. Like, of course she would do that, I shouldn’t even be surprised. Yeah, I’m sure hardly any time will have passed before she does that. Exactly, how is Hope at all the type of person who would want a rebound? Lizzie might be, but Hope? No. Sounds like Lizzie will be pushing Hope to do something she doesn’t want to do and Hope will just be putting up with it again. And yes, Lizzie knows how much Hope loves Landon, not that she cares. I think it’s interesting that when Hope was dealing with her grief, Lizzie did nothing, she just wanted Hope’s help. But now when Hope’s struggles involve relationship drama, something entertaining for Lizzie, she’ll get in Hope’s business about it. It really says it all. And the fact that Landon is off trying to save Hope’s life while dealing with his PTSD, while the twins are apparently just gonna be pushing Hope to do what they want, getting her involved in a cult, trying to get her to start another relationship, and most likely not be of any help to her... wow.
I agree, Hope’s “friends” need to stop doing this to her. I mean, these are the same people who didn’t care at all when Landon had “died.” Lizzie was willing to put him at risk and let him die when there was a chance to save him. Josie didn’t care when he died either. If Hope was written in character when it comes to them, she would not put up with or trust either of them at this point. Especially after how they’ve treated her and Landon, and how they’re gonna continue to treat her, it seems. But because they’re supposed to be Hope’s “friends,” it’s all ignored. I just find it ironic that they said this show was supposed to be about friendship. What kind of friendships are these, I can’t. I just want Hope to have some real friends, ones who will support her and be there for her in the ways that she needs. Not push her to feel how they think she should feel. I won’t be at all surprised if this situation will be similar to when Hope was grieving, I’m expecting it actually. Yeah, it’s seriously not how feelings and emotions work. Idk why they’re writing the characters like this. They shouldn’t throw in serious subjects like death, loss, grief, trauma, heartbreak, etc. to be disregarded by other characters like it’s nothing. And sorry to go off, I’m just so tired.
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Hypnovember 2020 Master List
Now that I have awoken from my post-Hypnovember nap, it’s time to post my 2020 Master List! in comparison to last year’s entries, a lot of stories this year delved more into either more intense kinks or more of my intense personal feelings than my stories last year did. Sometimes writing stories is a bit like reading my own tarot cards in that way- letting an ambiguous prompt roll around in my subconscious and sometimes being surprised or amused or even slightly unsettled by what it turns into. I hope you will find something in this group of works that soothes you, that turns you on, that intrigues you, and that most of all provokes a response. If you do, I’d absolutely love to hear about it. :)
Copying one of my favorite @jukeboxemcsa ideas, I’ve also included a HypnoBS rating for every work about how realistic the hypnosis/mind control is in each work (IMHO). In this ranking, 1 means to is absolute bullshit and 5 is a normal Tuesday night (for someone).
Icons- 📰- story. 🔊- audio 💻- technology 😍- romantic 🌈- queer 😴- regular ole’ hypnosis 🛀- brainwashing and/or character in tub 👻- spooky 🐈- at least one happy pussy ❓- bad or reeeally questionable consent 👨🔬 -science! 🤪 -crackfic #-#sceneideas 😭-feeeels ⭐-author’s personal favorites
Day 1: Instant M/f 📰 😴🐈#😭
Choice quote: “Sean chuckled as he moved in closer. And closer. ‘I thought you wanted to know what it was like to be hypnotized, sweetheart. To follow suggestions? To have someone else take control? It’s not real control if I’m doing something you already wanted, now is it?”
HypnoBS- 5. Read the whole thing but- IMHO totally plausible.
Fun Fact- These are the same characters from last year’s Day 5: Poison.
Day 2: Coils F/m 📰 😴 💻 👨🔬
Choice quote: “Daniel rolled his eyes. ‘I bet you could hypnotize me with a bar of soap if you wanted to. That still doesn’t make me like spirals.’”
HypnoBS- 5. Maybe 4 because I don’t love the induction but- maybe you will? Also- oh no poor Daniel is so conditioned that he’ll go under to anything Jamie does! How hard for him. :(
Day 3: Staged Hypnosis (Stage) F/f 📰 😴 🌈 🛀 ❓
Choice quote: “No one needed to know she was a plant. A confederate. A stooge.”
HypnoBS- 1.5. This would collapse like a house of cards. It’s a fun concept though.
Day 4: Psychic F/nb 📰 😴 🌈 😍 👨🔬⭐
Choice quote: “Something about the hypnosis- being in and out of each other’s heads and in and out of each other’s bodies all weekend- made her feel like she and Tris had merged in some way. Like there was a new, deeper understanding between them now- a telepathic bond.”
HypnoBS- 5. Maybe a 4.5 if you’re recognizing some nre magical thinking here. But- I’ve definitely had this feeling and this kind of experience- and I hope some of you have had it/will have it as well. :)
Day 5: Visor F/multiple 📰 😴 🛀 💻 👨🔬 🤪#
Choice quote: “Besides, everyone knew stormtroopers were kinky.”
HypnoBS- 4.5. Some of the exact details would need to be changed and thought through more thoroughly, but I absolutely believe you could do something like this if you wanted to. (And if you do, you definitely have to let me know. I know some of y’all out there go to Dragoncon.)
Day 6: Pendulum F/y’all 🔊😴 👨🔬
Choice quote: This is a trick I first learned from a science book I read in 5th grade.
HypnoBS- 5. The real thing.
Day 7: Song Aliens/the human race 📰 💻 👻❓
Choice quote: “Anna didn’t know what she was singing.”
HypnoBS- 1. I hope. Why do the song based stories always turn out so creepy?
Day 8: Performance unknown/f 📰 👻❓😴# ⭐
Choice quote: “With each snap, the gears inside her doll body click click click clicked into action. She turned, jerky but graceful. She was determined to do well. “
HypnoBS- 5 (if part of a fearplay scene, which is my headcanon for this story)
Day 9: (Hot Under the) Collar F/f 📰 😴🛀🌈 🐈#⭐
Choice quote: “She was wearing her collar. She was aroused. It was as simple as that.“
HypnoBS- 5 With time, I think you could do this. Maybe a 4.5 for the 30 minutes thing- that might lead to a bit too much cramping.
Day 10: Gentle 🔊😴
Choice quote: “Just look into the spiral....”
HypnoBS- 5. I hope.
Day 11: Summoning Sappho (Summon) eventual F/f I hope 📰 😴🌈 🤪
Choice quote: “In fact, the only ideas left to try on their brainstorming board included ‘sexy alien invasion’, ‘sexy witches’, and this. Shockingly, at this point a sexy seance seemed the most practical.”
HypnoBS-1. Although stay tuned for Femme Flirt 2021.
Day 12: Plants unknown/m 📰 😴🛀#
Choice quote: “If he focused, Chris could feel that new suggestion also growing stronger and stronger, becoming more and more firmly rooted inside of him. “
HypnoBS- 5, with the right person
Day 13: Artifact F/f 📰 😴🛀🌈 👨🔬 ❓
Choice quote: “She fumbled through the contents when suddenly her hand found something unexpected from her past.A red lipstick tube. An artifact.”
HypnoBS- 4? There’s different ways of reading this story, but my headcanon is that the consent here is pretty dubious.
Day 14: Tail M/f 📰 😴🛀❓👻#
Choice quote: “It was no use. She could sense her tail was still behind her. She couldn’t shake him. She should have known he’d come for her.“
HypnoBS- Let’s say 2. Although I think this could work really well for a fearplay scene in an appropriate setting (where someone wasn’t actually left unmonitored with extreme paranoia).
Day 15: Serve F/m 📰 😴#⭐
Choice quote: “He had put his heart and soul into the dish.They were hers now.”
HypnoBS- As a scene? 5 (depending on the person). As a long term effect, much lower.
Day 16: Memory F/f 📰 😴 🛀🌈 😍
Choice quote: “Mesmera waited for Galaxy Girl at the door.”
HypnoBS- 4, you could do an induction along these lines but -1 for psychic powers
Fun Fact: These characters were originally featured in last year’s Day 19: Hideout.
Day 17: Toy F/f m/f 📰 😴 🛀🌈🐈 #
Choice quote: “Dolly hated to have Bad Manners. “
HypnoBS- 4.5. This is pretty deep into headspace, but I wouldn’t want to rule it out for the right person.
Day 18: Monster m/f 📰 😴 ❓😭⭐
Choice quote: “That kind of stuff wasn’t fair to think about here. It wasn’t everyone else’s fault that she was so warped.”
HypnoBS- 5. Ouch my heart. Poor young!Ella.
Day 19: Eyes M/m 📰 😴 🌈 😍
Choice quote: “Scott looked into his partner Brandon’s eyes. Brandon had hypnotized him so many times over the years in so many ways but- this was one of Scott’s favorites.”
HypnoBS- 5. Especially in a long term relationship like this. (In my pretend Hypnovember universe, these guys are some of the patriarchs of the hypnokinky convention scene and absolutely wonderful advice givers.)
Fun fact: The story of how these characters originally got together is in last year’s Day 12: Stage story.
Day 20: Possession F/f 📰 😴 🌈 😍😭
Choice Quote- “Things that were hard to do for herself during these times became easier to do as something owned by Thadra. Taking a shower. Getting up and going to bed at the right time. Making sure she ran once a day. Making sure she ate.”
HypnoBS- Errr....4 trending upwards. Although for this to be safe and healthy you’d really need to be checking in with a therapist and working on your continuing mental health at the same time (IMHO). Please do not get relationship advice from my porn.
Day 21: Snaps 🔊😴👨🔬
Choice Quote- “No, that one was up.”
HypnoBS- 5. I’m not sure quite how this translates to audio but this is the kind of shenanigans I pull with friends all of the time.
Day 22: Restrict F/f 📰 😴 🌈 🐈👨🔬
Choice quote: “’Hmm. By ‘weird’ do you mean ‘hot’?’ asked Zahara, lounging above her on the couch. Nikki nodded. She definitely meant hot. “
HypnoBS- 2. A month is a long time and this is a strong reaction. But- maaaaaybe would work for a bit, especially within these boundaries?
Day 23: Villain there’s a m and a f 📰 🛀👨🔬❓#
Choice quote: “They had been planning against that damned do-gooder reporter Lizzy Lampost for months and now they were about to finally have her in their clutches. “
HypnoBS-1. But you’re not reading this one for realism, are you?
Day 24: Drink F/f 📰 😴👨🔬🌈 😍
Choice quote: “’Leah,’ she said. ‘I’ve found a drinking game! This might be fun! Want to try it?’”
HypnoBs- 5. With the right person. (That part of the end might be a bit harder.)
Day 25:Worship: F/m 📰 🛀🌈
Choice quote: “After all, it wasn’t the time to work right now. It was time to worship his Mistress’s cock.”
HypnoBS- Someone on AO3 told me this fic just wrecked them. Lucky that person- this one’s a 5. Maybe not with everyone, but an awful lot of people should be able to do an awful lot of the activities in this story. :)
Day 26: Fey M/f 📰😴 😭⭐
Choice quote: “Humans do not know the spells they weave.”
HypnoBS- 1 Only true in that metaphorical way. (So- really, really true. But not factual.)
Day 27: Recording F./m 📰 🛀❓👻#
Choice quote: “It’s a recording, he reminded himself. “She’s not there. No one is there.”
HypnoBS- 2 At least, I don’t know how to make this happen (outside of a consensual scene).
Day 28: Obsession M/F 📰 🛀😍👨🔬
Choice quote: “Some guys had cars. Some had computer systems. Some had home brewing. But Mark’s obsession was Julia.“
HypnoBS- Oh gosh. Errr...2.5? Hard to say.
Fun Fact: This started as a one-sided scenario, then it changed, then it felt really hot, now it feels like a sweet silly sitcom premise. (If you want to read some episode synopses of this hypothetical sitcom, there are some brilliant ones here! Also- feel free to send me more!)
Day 29: Helpless F/m 📰😴😍
Choice quote: “’I want to be helpless,’ he replied. Juan felt his headspace changing. He threw himself into that feeling, trusting Josie to take the reins.“
HypnoBS- 5. Not a scene log, but pretty much How I Top.
Day 30: Awaken 🔊😴👨🔬
Choice quote: “Aaaaaand-awaken!”
HypnoBS- 5 Hypnotist BS- also a 5
Thank you all for reading these! Thank you especially to everyone who reblogged, wrote me comments, and generally supported me through this past month. I’m going to specifically single out @daja-the-hypnokitten, @wellgnawed, and @spiralturquoise for the encouragement- y’all are the best. :) I know this is a long post, but I’d really appreciate reblogs of it!
Also, I didn’t have time to contribute myself but- if you donate to Hypnokink for Trans Lives, let me know and I’ll write you an epilogue for any of these stories that you choose.
#Hypnovember 2020#master post#me/my accomplishments#thank you all again for reading!#seeing people actually liking my stuff gives me a ton of energy to keep going#<3#19746 words and almost an hour of audio#an entire month of my life :P#not a novel but definitely a novella
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On the rating of 10, how do you rate the writing of each legacies characters, why and who deserves better? What aspects should be improved?
I updated some of the opinion for clarity and also added Finch because I forgot her originally
I'll just make a list and go down it and I'm sorry in advance I love responding but I'm horrible at grammar/punctuation and also I might tend to ramble but I'll try to be as concise as possible. It should also be noted anything I state that might possibly relate to ships is a personal opinion and I have nothing against any ships/characters gay or straight/Good or Evil. However would it be said that I definitely mean more towards the gay/Badass with a Golden heart side of shipping with any fandom.
Hope Mikaelson- As of now I would rate her writing at about a 6. And I only say that because as we know a majority of her characters personality slightly has always but this season especially related to her relationship with Landon. And I wish we would see the Badass Tribrid Hope we've been promised since season 1 I mean sure there are no lack of examples of her bravery and martyrdom. But I am tired of her always feeling down on herself and like she's a cosmic mistake when it has literally been proven by Lizzie's wish in season 1 that their life would be infinitely shittier without her. What they can do to improve it is have her focus on friendship and herself instead of trying to always focus on Landon. She deserves more than just to be a boy obsessed character I mean she's the daughter of Klaus F****** Mikaelson for Pete sakes she literally descends from the most powerful supernatural family ever to exist and is rightfully the most powerful being on the f****** planet.
Note: I found Handon's relationship cutesy in season 1 but now not so much especially since they use him dying as a plot line way too often it just doesn't have the same effect that used to***
Josie Saltzman-As of now I would rate her writing at about an 8. I like how her character at least for a while had her own storyline going off the mystic falls High School plotline and how she lived with delena because it was a good call back for us TVD fans but I think it could have definitely lasted longer than a few episodes. We all know it was just used as a lot device to introduce Ethan as a series regular and as an introduction for her to Finch's character. But overall I feel throughout the seasons she has experienced at least some personal growth as exhibited even in 3x15 where she admitted she has to stop saying sorry especially to Lizzie for not always jumping to do what she needs / she wants all the time. Whereas before Android AU version aside because she literally had to do what she was programmed to do. She has an exhibited that she's starting to do what she needs to do for Josie before others most of the time or she's trying to. And as far as her relationship to Finch well I don't see them being endgame I have no problem with them and I do see Finch being one of her major loves of the series that teaches her whatever lesson she needs that leads her to whoever her endgame love is. With her relationships I will always miss Posie and I wish they could get Lulu back at least just for one episode. Also I feel these last two episodes of the girls being a trio they have a really Been serving Hosie with the looks but also I feel like in general Josie and Hope have been really in f****** tune. In conclusion I just don't know because Kaylee's acting skills and just turning general I would rate a billion she could choke me and I would literally thank her.
Lizzie Saltzman-as of now I would rate her at about a 7. I feel as if she has had great personal growth over the series and hell even this season. I also like hell despite everything in her life especially her eternal struggle with her mental illness she is always trying to do better and not just for herself but mainly for others and some people would say that's not good but I like it because it truly shows what she stated in 1x03 during the gargoyle incident that she never wants to be the bad or evil one. She has all this s*** thrown at her being called broken, being seen as the lesser than sister, and not to mention the absentee parents. Yet through all this she manages to only get stronger especially once she builds a genuine friendship with hope. However what I will say is that I don't like the regression of her friendship with Hope in correlation to her progress of especially her mental illness. And what I mean by that is it's almost been shown that once she had even the seeds of a true friendship with Hope that Hope would never give up on her hell not but like even an episode or two into their newly formed friendship in S1 Hope went to Josie when she Lizzie was on the verge of a bad episode and "sweet" Josie was basically like fuck her she needs to fall on her ass for once and Hope ass was appalled y'all she was like Lizzie can't control her brain chemistry and was so defensive/protective it's like once they got over that hurdle that mainly Josie gave them everything clicked into place and they were almost instant bff's. So for them to do so good in season 2 and then it seems like it showed especially in these last several episodes black magic incident to bring Landon back aside that Lizzie's old issues of resentment and jealousy towards hope are starting to come back and I don't like that because the more Lizzie had A Friend in Hope it seems like the better she got at coping and doing better mentally.(sorry if this has been a confusing several sentences). And no by that I do not mean that Lizzie is mental progress has solely relied on Hope but I do think it has helped significantly for her to have a true friend. Also let it be noted now out of every ship though I should Hosie too HIZZIE is my #1 ship on Legacies two phenomenally beautiful woman also the enemies to friends to lovers trope *chef's kiss*which might be plausible as I always wondered what they meant in the Hosie crush confession scene of season 1 when Josie said that she always went after everybody josie liked hinting that Lizzie might be at least bisexual or maybe that was just what Josie perceived at like 12/13 years old. Also on the note of relationships Mizzie was a cute concept at the beginning but I do love the fact that MG is finally finding himself and standing up for himself but he did also do it and I kind of a******-ish way towards Lizzie. And that's all I can say for her. Actually I could probably write a novel on this women and also Hizzie but I won't lol.
Alaric Saltzman- As of now I would give him a rating of like a 4 . In the last several episodes I think he's been trying to make progress at being a better person but that's about all I can say I'm not an anti. But he definitely will not be winning the father of the year award anytime soon and like many people have pointed out he was a great guardian to Elena and Jeremy so he has the potential in parenting he obviously just ain't using it or lost it over the decades. I don't hate him but I do believe they're doing a discredit towards the better man he was in The vampire Diaries especially at the beginning.
Landon Kirby-His writing is like a 3. He is just there to be arm candy for hope. Until the last couple episodes where he became this for once realistic not optimistic hardened badass he literally brought nothing to The season other than someone for Hope to obsess over. And to be someone that they repeatedly kill for shock value even though it literally shocks no one anymore. I don't hate his character but he doesn't tickle My Fancy as much anymore. His character has a lot of potentialy especially if they ever bring back in his Phoenix side and truly explore it beyond his almost endless ability to revive and being a "Bird Boy" lol. I mean truthfully they're doing him a disservice Aria is a phenomenal actor who could take his character places if they just let him be more than a basic ass plot device. Also can we talk about how gorgeous of a man Aria is especially in these last few episodes looking love it and fine as f***.
As it has become apparent to me I ramble too much and I just don't have the capacity as it is now almost 1:00 in the morning my time to do anymore characters in depth so I will be doing a simple excerpt for the rest now that I have done the main 5 people.
Kaleb Hawkins- His writing is a 8. I do like how he's coming to himself over the years and is a a right hand man to Alaric now instead of being just a uncontrollable vampire(the only hate on this part not towards Kaleb but Alaric is that it shows he will virtually mentor/uplift almost any teen that ain't his own daughters). Though in my opinion he always kind of had a point on some things especially about the hypocrisy of Alaric in season 1 especially on the bmood drinking thing. Him and Mg's relationship is awesome I'm glad they made up in the last episode and our brothers again. Also I was rooting for him and Cleo I think they would be a cute little couple. Also I need his backstory immediately especially after saying to Cleo the last time he was vulnerable he died I need to know how he turned.
Milton Greasley(MG)- His writing is a 9 the season. I say that because he is really came into his own and stopped being the punching bag. Though I think the idea or used to think at least that him and Lizzie would be cute together I am proud of him for standing up to Lizzie finally even though I liked him always being there for her I was tired of him being a fallback for her when it didn't work with whoever however I do think he could have went about the rejection a little bit gentler especially with how he knows of Lizzie's emotional problems. And don't even get me started on Alyssa that was just a disaster that should have never even been brought to fruition her cheating with Jed was probably the best thing that could have happened. I liked his little side adventure with Ethan though I do think they could have wrote it a little better I was sad when he had to compel the memories away like they still could have been friends he just couldn't have known about the supernatural stuff also I'm still not convinced Ethan won't become supernatural later in the series if he stays on. And that's all I have to say on that one love my baby.
Jed Tien-His writing I can't really give a writing I don't think it's horrible but I do think overall they could give him a better plot line as a series regular other than just being used for the comical relief eye candy/mentioning how he's the alpha. Though it was funny the whole pool tournament to decide who was alpha will Finch was just exactly that so bad it was laughable. However I do respect the fact that he even admitted to her that he knew she threw the game and that he is a genuine man of his word and has become better over the series from like this dumb jock stereotype to this genuine dude the Alyssa incident aside. He is a cinnamon roll and I will protect him at all cost.
Ethan- Again as he just became a series regular this season and barely showed up in his premiere season. I will not be rating him in any traditional sense. His writing is not totally horrible I liked his adventures with mg they could have been written better and they still could have let him be MG's friend without supernatural knowledge instead of compelling the friendship completely away. And I am still not convinced he will not become supernatural in some way depending on how long he stays in the series truthfully it's actually almost inevitable unless they go the whole route of making him the Matt/Token Human of the show which I really hope they don't I mean he can stay human but don't make him a supernatural hater.
Cleo-her writing is 10. I say that because she has been a phenomenal character and I've never seen the actress before but she is obviously phenomenal as well. I like her whole connection to Malivore and how it's a legitimate one that seems to be interwoven with the story that's already been presented and add something new. I also like how she tried and really wanted to genuinely be friends with all the characters especially hope but at the same time she was also very realistic and new probably and truthfully the only way for Malivore to be defeated was for Hope to Go full Tribrid and she wasn't above actually trying to murder hope to save herself and just get rid of Malivore which I can't blame her.
Malivore-after the end of season 3 / the first couple episodes of season 4 which were supposed to be the original ending to season 3 I better never hear the name again I am so tired of it this should have ended like at least a season ago at this point it's dragging on. This was supposed to be a monster of the week type of series which is okay me personally I have always appreciated having one big bad of the season and then a couple of minor baddies that get their characters arcs and take a few episodes to defeat or something as like a B or C plot. Point being is that this character and plot line has gotten stiff as can be. To be honest I think half of us aren't even here for plot line anymore we just want to see which of our ships get together.
Finch-I am loving her character and I do think she's cute with Josie. Also I stan anyone who is a sarcastic b**** Queen. I think it's nice how her will backstory was different than the traditional one but also I hated how sad it was like she literally didn't even know what she was doing. Though I will say calling Lizzie the "evil" twin that she can fight me because you don't talk about my blonde cinnamon roll like that is based on one impression from something that was only meant and done out of a good place and Lizzie's heart trying to find out her backstory. But other than that I have no real qualms with this character and it is too early to have a real in-depth analysis/opinion of her.
Thank you for reading this long rant hope I answered your question well enough if not PM me on anything specific.
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I am gonna rant: I really like aria! And I feel bad for him because he is written just bad! It could be way better and I get that he has to take a lot of shit for that!
Second thought though: I love Danielle and kaylee separately and together. But I dont understand why all of the sudden you won’t hear them talking hosie at all anymore since a year or so. Maybe it’s because hosie actually happens and they can’t spoiler, or it’s because it won’t happen and the won’t queerbait!
I for myself feel queerbaited by the show and not at all by the actresses! What the fuck?! I mean at this point Handon is not cute or making sense anymore at all!!! And I don’t say that because of hosie or of hating on Handon! But them as a couple is even worse than Landons storyline itself rn. And Handon being all fairytale kissing without consent just fucks up legacies in itself :D sorrynotsorry!
I for myself put a lot of thought in this and decided to only watch episodes where people tell me that there is a hope/ josie interaction. You know why? I won’t fall for this anymore! And I also want Julie plec to not string us along anymore! I hate it. I want her to actually see it in her own rating that we want hosie! And I also want aria having a good story for his character on his own! I love Danielle and kaylee and I want them to have their career and all but legacies once was a show of potential and rn it sucks with the forth and back.
I love lizzies and hopes friendship do I may tune in if it’s an episode of them as well but I won’t watch it up until anything hope/ Lizzie / hosie or even hope/ josie friendshipwise happens! The show is called legacies you guys:D and the twins and hope are the legacies:D whether hosie happens at this point I can’t see it... Handon is again seasons‘ 3 story and it sucks big time because we already know that it’s not working out for them:D they showed that in season 1, more of it in season 2 and just started it again(!!!!!!) in the begining of this seaso :D it’s just stupid and frustrating and a Waking kiss of them is just shitty shitty writing!
Julie plec is not getting my views on this writing style. Lizzie/ hope or josie/ hope or best wise hosie but this is not it! And it’s depressing that everyone single person showing plec the deep love that they have for this three characters doenst get any support by her storytelling at all!
That really is the thing tho... most people don’t get that Anti-Handon’s aren’t Anti-Aria, and not even Anti-Landon. Three different things at play here.
Aria is a good actor and he seems like an all around good guy. Landon, same thing - he is a good guy BUT his storylines have been shit and most times get more focus than they actually should. Most of his storylines are B and C plot worthy, while they write them as A plots.
Handon started out cute in season 1 and now it’s just annoying as all fuck. Talk about something being shoved down our throats. Like... food for thought, but your main ship shouldn’t be the least liked ship on the show. Most straights don’t even like it, that’s how bad it’s gotten.
And having this reaction from fans, I wonder how they actually thought that having Handon as the central storyline of 3A was a good idea.
I still have hopes for Hosie tho because it’s pretty clear that Handon is breaking up this season. It’s not a matter of if it will happen, just a matter of when and if they remain broken up.
They have been saying that Handon will be the focus just as much as they have been saying that that dynamic is gonna shift and that Hope will explore new relationships, so albeit annoying the fact that we will have a lot of Handon in 3A, it’s not a death sentence for Hosie (yet).
I genuinely don’t think that Danielle and Kaylee not talking about Hosie is any indication of Hosie actually being canon this season. They have only shot up until episode 7 or 8 this season and considering that 3A is Handon focused and that Josie is getting a new love interest, I really doubt we are getting Hosie in 3A BUT no one is saying that we won’t get it in 3B, or most likely 4A.
Having said that, Legacies has really been queerbaiting us, and they aren’t even being subtle about it. Outside of all the romantic looks they have constantly, and scenes that thread heavily on subtext, we actually have canon confirmation of Hope and Josie having had crushes on each other at around the same time AND multiple confirmations from Julie Plec that Hosie could definitely be a thing (mention of a Hosie kiss having been discussed for 2x16).
Even if they actually go for Hosie, nothing denies that, up until now, it’s been queerbait.
So I don’t blame you for only watching episodes where Hope, Josie and Lizzie interact with each other.
They need to realize that WE, the fans, are the ones who give them views, WE are the ones who give them free publicity, WE are the reason that that show keeps airing. If they aren’t writing a show for the fans, than we aren’t watching the show. Simple as that.
I am not at that point yet, but I don’t give them views because I don’t live in the US, so it’s fine. The episodes only come out here 2 days after it airs there, and I will only be rewatching the eps in a way that gives them views in episodes where I actually think they deserve the views.
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Chapter 2: Miracles Happen in Mystic Falls, occasionally.
Lizzie: So, you are just going to stand there and not say what big plan you came up with?
Raf: Hope... I am glad you are trying yo, but I don't wanna spend my last day like an experiment machine.. y'all know that just aint gonna work for me.
Raf looks at Hope, she looks like she is there physically, but her mind is elsewhere, he can almost feel an emptiness in her. He wonders what is going on. After Hope woke up from her sleep, after she helped rescue Josie they just hadn't gotten a moment alone. But maybe that was good, Landon was his best friend and they loved each other and Hope... she was everyone's someone, she had too much going on to bother her. If only he could call up her aunt Bex that she kept mentioning to him that one night of star gazing. He wondered why she was so distant from a family she loved so dearly. Why she mentioned them so little. No, focus, he thought to himself, he looked at her again. He loved looking at her. He couldn't help what his heart felt, even if hers was beating for someone he loved more dearly than life. If it was between his happiness and Landon's, he would choose Landon's any day.
Hope was unsure of her own state of mind, from days it was as if she was uneasy. Maybe she had spent too long in Josie's conscience. She knew all magic came with it's drawbacks, but she could not pinpoint what was happening. It's as though she was a spectator of her own life. All she could think was how much she loved these people and how badly she didn't wanna lose yet another person. Not Raf. She hadn't even told him... No. There was nothing to tell. She loved Landon, he made her happy, she was in the best relationship of her life. Uncle Elijah approved of him. She knew he was right for her, but why did right feel so wrong at times?
Hope: Raf it's not an experiment. I was reading the history of your heritage, turns out there were wolves around Arthur's grandson, his name was Melfort or something. Arthur had an affair once, he was young, barely 16, he met a wonderful woman, but more on that later. Point is you are of his line. And according to the Legend of the stoned wall, every member of Arthur's heritage, on visiting the stoned wall can ask the Lady of the Wall for a favor. A blessing. And she has to grant it. Whether that be magic that was beyond the laws of the Universe. The Lady of the Wall asked Arthur to ensure ALL his people were protected and provided for in return. His people, as in... you.
Raf: You are kidding.
Hope: I don't kid.
Lizzie: So what are we waiting for? Let's go to the stupid wall.
Hope: Don't call it stupid Lizzie, she could save his life... and see that's one small issue. The wall is in... well, it's like a joke but the Wall is in New Orleans.
Lizzie was stunned, she had heard stories of New Orleans and the reign of vampires, she has heard stories of the Mikaelson clan, she had been there once with her mother at a very young age. Now, she was actually going to visit the place that made Hope Mikaelson. The Hope Mikaelson.
Lizzie: Holy Shit.
Is all Lizzie could get herself to say. Raf was confused, he looked around and wondered why everyone was so afraid of this New Orleans.
Raf: What's wrong with New Orleans.
Lizzie: That's Hope's hometown dummy.
Raf: Oh..
Hope: I haven't been there... ever since. I don't know if Dr. Saltzman will be okay with taking us there.
MG: I don't say this often, but let's just go.
Jed enters the room.
Jed: Where we off to?
Lizzie: You- nowhere.
Jed: He is our Alpha, one of us has to go with.
Hope: Okay then. Who is driving?
Landon had not spoken a word, he knew Hope had a past in New Orleans, he knew that her family was there. He had met her Uncle but he never knew him. There was too much happening. He could not think about himself, he should not. Was Hope ready for this?
Landon: Okay then.
They all walked towards the van. Raf stopped Hope shortly.
Raf: You don't have to do this.
Hope: I do.
He tried searching her eyes, her bright beautiful eyes, but he found nothing.
Raf: What's wrong with you?
Hope: I don't know. I will ask my aunt to do a reading once we reach there. She won't be too happy about any of this. That's what I am scared about. If the Mikaelsons find out what's happening here, there will be hell to deal with.
Raf: Then, we will keep it quiet.
He held her hand a moment. He never could help herself around her.
Hope: No Raf... not now.
They walked towards the van, everyone knew the role they were to play, they were a group of excited teenagers who wanted to meet the epic Mikaelsons.
Hope called her aunt. "Hey Aunt Freya, I am bringing a few friends of mine to New Orleans. I hope its okay with you guys? I needed a reading and they said they wanted to meet you."
"Hope that is amazing, we'd be more than happy to see your friends. And, you'll be happy to see who is here." "Hey kiddo." Uncle Kols voice across the phone freaked her out. She loved him, but he would know. Oh well.
Lizzie and MG together- So?
Hope: They bought it, but my Uncle Kol is there which means Davina is there. It will be very hard to make sure none of them find out what's up.
Hope knew she was lying to them. Of course her family will know, they were the Mikaelsons. But Raf was more important than wanting to stay at the school. She hadn't realized before just how important he was.
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