#masaru the digimon bully

[legendheroes]

who's the best digimon babysitter (or just babysitter in general) of the heroes?

i feel like there is one certain individual who would be also low on this list

Those thinking Masaru, Daisuke and Takuya would be at this... Nope. They aren't bad at this.

(especially LXW AU Daisuke, because the main focus of that AU is just him being Tagiru's babysit-- I mean, mentor.)

So everyone is just pointing fingers at each other about "who's the one to be BAD at this job" and...

No, really. Takuya might be the epitome of chaos and disorder, but he's at least GOOD at babysitting. He was the one to take care of Tomoki pretty well compared to the rest of the Frontier group (yeah, sorry folks.)

Masaru is a good brother and had been helping to raise Chika in the place of their father, he helped his mom at home and possibly helped Chika against bullies. He's an excellent brother and i take no criticism.

Daisuke might look like the best candidate for the lowest rank (lol), but he's pretty good with digimon babies. He has a soft side, and he had been raising Chibimon/V-mon since he was 10-11 years old. Besides the ep that makes me keep pinning him as the "mentor" role is episode 24, in which Miyako leaves him to take care of the baby digimon while they keep the repairs in that town (and because he couldn't evolve V-mon because of Arukenimon being around and when she's around she can activate the Dark Towers.)

Taiki is a quick learner and there's nothing Kudou Taiki cannot do. I know this makes people hate Taiki, but that's also his flaw as well (in the sense that he will learn everything and this might make others take advantage of his abilities)

The Taichis are excellent brothers to their Hikaris, so I don't want to think they're BAD at it.

And Hiro is also a good big bro. Those who watched GG knows it very well. The MVP of babysitting.

With those ones left... we only have Takato, Haru and Tagiru.

As much i love those three, they don't seem to be adequate for the job. Honestly, Takato is a nice kid but he had trouble training and raising Guilmon at first as i remember correctly? Anyway, he struggled hard with it. I'd not put him at the LOWEST rank, because... yeah.

Haru and Tagiru are not that bad in my opinion, they're just two types of "not a good option", but I do admit they're like Takato for me, so there's also NOT RANKING LOW??

So Takato, Haru and Tagiru might not be the best option BUT uh, in the absence of the other options, you can count with them.

BUT THE ONE WHO IS REALLY BAD AT THIS...

It's... Rui-kun.

Sorry folks. I think he will take a while to finally get into babysitting and raising a digimon or taking care of a child. He's soft and gentle, but he's definitely not experienced and there's the problem that he's non-confrontational and too chill for a job that requires to also be able to tell kids to NOT do something dumb and yeah. He needs to learn with his boyfriend Daisuke & the others first.

[shihalyfie]

I have no idea why but something made me go back into my dummy attachment to all series protag crossover things and... Well, i've been thinking about this since the purple Tagiru card and the birth of the jokes based on it about Tagiru having his own corruption arc in Digica.

Who would be the most dangerous to the less of concern enemy out of the 9 protags (double Taichi, Daisuke, Takato, Takuya, Masaru, Taiki & Tagiru, Haru, Hiro) if they had a corruption arc? 👀

Context: Tagiru's Tamer Card is purple, which is unusual because purple is usually associated with dark or undead Digimon. It's probably because Tagiru's meant to be played with the Arresterdramon line (with Arresterdramon being purple, the card game has gone across the usual color associations just to match the relevant Digimon's color, and he does have some "spirit"-type attacks), but it's funny to consider that most of the Digimon protagonist cards so far have been red, and Daisuke being blue is pretty easy to understand why, and then Tagiru got pinned with the color that all the evil Digimon usually get. So of course, the amusing question that follows is how effective Tagiru would be as an (attempted) evil overlord!

Least dangerous: Masaru, actually! Not because he's incapable, but because of the above list, Masaru is the only one who comes off to me as being actively turned off by things like world domination or power for the sake of power. For better or for worse, he's the kind of person who's very self-focused and has goals related to his own definition of self-improvement, and even on the evil side he would still probably be bound by so-called "honor before reason". So if left to his own devices, the worst thing I could see him coming up with would be some underground fighting ring or something else that "causes trouble" but is hardly world-threatening, and even if he ends up being hired help he'd be like a one-off assassin rather than a core part of the threat.

After that in order: Daisuke, mostly because in many ways he doesn't really have a spine (I'm saying this affectionately) or enough conscious malice to get anything done by himself -- even when he's on the good side he's incredibly reliant on his friends to make any real progress. He's a pragmatic enough person that I think he could be surprisingly effective as someone else's right-hand man or minion, but I don't expect him to be a very good evil overlord by himself.

Hiro, who's outright stated in the series to be a doormat who just goes along with everything, and is only considered to be more dangerous than Daisuke on this list because he's a pretty capable guy who can keep himself together in situations Daisuke can't.

Tagiru, who certainly has the drive to do things but is one-track mind enough to be easily predictable. Which is fine in a lot of cases, but being an evil overlord not so much.

Takuya, because while like Tagiru he has a sort of one-track mind with things, he has a sort of "innocence"/"earnestness" Tagiru doesn't that I could easily see being corrupted into the kind of malice that enjoys tormenting people for the sheer fun of it. I think that's the part that's really scary about this, that if you flipped just a few switches in the wrong direction Takuya could be like those kinds of bullies who made Tomoki's life miserable.

Takato, who's often deferential, but, well, the scene where he completely lost himself to wrath is one of the most famous ones in the franchise for a reason. Of course, in that case his own good nature won out, but if a corruption arc is in play...

Reboot!Taichi, I feel could go pretty much any way.

Haru, who's thoughtful and intelligent, and only isn't put beyond the following two because he doesn't have a lot of experience with actual leadership, and his talent of keeping people together is outright dependent on his kindness.

Taiki, who has the charisma to lead a whole army and whatnot, and is very good at planning things out to achieve his goal. Power grabbing is what his entire series is about! The one thing that I think might hold him back to any significant degree is that his Good Samaritan nature of "I can't leave anyone behind" is portrayed as something that's so integral to his being that it's basically compulsive to some degree, whereas...

Most dangerous: Taichi. Of course. Well, we haven't seen him directly lead an army like Taiki did, but even when he was in an existential crisis about his career he still decided to go into poli-econ, and we know he eventually does go into hardcore politics. He's charismatic and great at bringing people together for a goal, and while he does have a self-sacrificial aspect, it's heavily tied to him having guilt over troubling or hurting others, and if that weren't in play...

[digisurvive]

Uh Kaito! 11/18/21/27! Choose any!

11 What’s the first thing you think about when thinking about the character?

That he kinda gets the short end of the stick, writing wise, despite being the focus of Harmony lol He doesn't get an adult Evo cut scene, and since the game didn't make perfect and ultimates part of the narrative, it just means Kaito gets less material, and he doesn't get a cutscene establishing the themes for his arc. He also doesn't get an item in the sewers that's meaningful to him and even that mid gazimon side quests retrieving lost items for the others doesn't give us anything that adds flavor to his character lol We already knew he's very Miu focused, so I don't think we needed more of that, but oh well lol

18 How do you think they were as a kid? (Like, were they shy, noisy, wild, etc)

Troublemaker, but not in a dramatic way. He just seems like the kind of kid who liked to explore + test things on his own + know the why behind rules, like if you told him not to touch the iron, he'd do it anyway and burn his fingies lol But then he'd understand the why behind the instruction. Or if he decided he wanted to go somewhere, he'd not wait for his parents or anyone to take him, Miu and him would just go out and figure out themselves how to get there (or most likely get lost for hours and eventually return home.) I don't think he was ever a social butterfly, but he probably did get along with 3-4 kids enough to be friends with, he seems like the kind that'd be relied on for things like "we sent our balloon flying to the neighbors' balcony, can you go get it." And Kaito would have enough kiddy temerity to be the one to be the face for them in such situations lol

21 When do you think they were at their happiest?

Hmm since he's so tortured about The Incident and also just. How badly Miu does socially with the bullying and so, maybe when he was a kid and he felt things were simpler? When both he and Miu were in elementary school and he could be there for her (and also they got along better and such). He just seems like the type who'd be a sucker for childhood nostalgia even tho he's 14 lol

27 If they could meet a character from another show/movie/etc, who would be the most fun for them to meet?

It puzzles me that this question is so popular, do I give crossover enjoyer aura? 😂 Kaito is specially tricky with how much it takes him to warm up to people... He's considerate of others to a degree but he isn't the kind of guy who goes other out of his way to befriend others or is easy to get along with.... Again, keeping it Digimon constrained, it'd probably be Masaru. Idk that they'd get along but it'd be funny to me, especially if it were early Masaru, they'd punch each other's lights out.

[ao3feed-hitoshi-shinsou]

Digital Evolution

Digital Evolution by Nedzu JR 2012

Izuku Midoriya was going to be a hero, there was no doubt about it, he didn't care what people said, his quirk was cool and powerful, and with the ability to turn into eleven different monsters, he was going to rise to the top.

Words: 1315, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English

Fandoms: 僕のヒーローアカデミア | Boku no Hero Academia | My Hero Academia, Digimon - All Media Types

Rating: Not Rated

Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings

Characters: Midoriya Izuku, Midoriya Inko, Bakugou Katsuki, Bakugou Mitsuki, Bakugou Masaru, Aizawa Shouta | Eraserhead, Yagi Toshinori | All Might, Yamada Hizashi | Present Mic, Kayama Nemuri | Midnight, Nedzu, Kirishima Eijirou, Iida Tenya, Shinsou Hitoshi, Uraraka Ochako, Todoroki Shouto, Todoroki Enji | Endeavor, Shigaraki Tomura | Shimura Tenko, Dabi | Todoroki Touya, Kurogiri, Toga Himiko, Bubaigawara Jin | Twice, Iguchi Shuuichi | Spinner, Akaguro Chizome | Stain, Sensei | All For One, Gran Torino, Sasaki Mirai | Sir Nighteye, Toogata Mirio, Hadou Nejire, Amajiki Tamaki, Chisaki Kai | Overhaul, Eri

Relationships: Midoriya Izuku & Shinsou Hitoshi, Midoriya Izuku/Shinsou Hitoshi

Additional Tags: Midoriya Izuku Has a Quirk, Powerful Midoriya Izuku, Smart Midoriya Izuku, Bully Bakugou Katsuki, Shinsou Hitoshi Replaces Mineta Minoru, Midoriya Izuku & Shinsou Hitoshi Friendship, Midoriya Izuku Does Not Have One for All Quirk, Toogata Mirio Has One for All Quirk, Toogata Mirio is a Good Friend, Protective Toogata Mirio, Protective Shinsou Hitoshi, Todoroki Enji | Endeavor's Bad Parenting, Cute Midoriya Izuku

Read Here: https://archiveofourown.org/works/44210200

[ozoraslegend]

How does Masaru & Hiro interact given how kind of different they view life & how to confront Digimon?

Well, the first, thank you for asking, even if you are anonymous!

For the question, it's a difficult one to answer, and I'm quite busy these days. But for a short answer:

Masaru certainly gets thrill at fighting, but he is not addicted to it or something. He won't bully someone or be violent for the sake of dominating and crushing the weak (basically, he obliviously hates Kouki for this). He may view his life as chances for fighting, but he has honor. Masaru specifically enjoys getting to fight against people causing trouble, or friendly fighting as a form of communication and acknowledging another as an equal. Masaru states several times that he wants to be strong specifically because he wants to protect his family and friends. So, I don't think he will be so annoyed at the way Hiro view life. Maybe some complaints here and there like "waste time to talk with them unnecessarily" if he is really discontented, but there won't be so much problem.

Hiro has a chill way of looking life. He calmly deals with problem, and he will fight if it is really, really necessary with him. But trying to defeat the enemy through battle is considered the last resort with Hiro. It's not that Hiro's never going to use it at all, but the thing is that Hiro would really, really like to not fight at all if possible, and especially not kill. However, he's and others definitely taking it to a point of absurdity – while certain very happy endings come out of this thanks to Hiro being perceptive and understanding, well… Hiro is a very naturally non-confrontational person, so he is going out of his way to avoid any kind of conflict as much as possible, to an abnormal state. But even so, Hiro has a kind of perceptiveness and understanding enough to try to understand Masaru's way of viewing life. Really, it's not like Hiro will complain, or be too much annoyed with anyone if they haven't done anything wrong.

Saying of that, in conclusion, Masaru and Hiro won't have too much difficulties in social interacting. There're certainly awkward times between them, but nothing so problematic. They are both 14 years old, after all. And it's not like they are too bad at social skills, at least not in such a terrible level that break relationship for Masaru. But I don't think they will be very close friends: their personalities are not very well mixed.

About the Digimon... Hiro has understood the need of killing Digimon after GulusGammamon, so although he will still check if violence is needed. But Masaru tends to go to battles too soon, and they will have "discussions". I will apply an open and positive mindset in Digimon writing way that Masaru and Hiro will try to find the best way to deal with Digimon. You can have your headcanons in how long and what way.

Anyway, we also should consider the context. If this is the '9Digi-Protagonists' context, I am quite sure others will prepare a plan to "improve" Masaru and Hiro's dynamic. Depending on the participation of Daisuke, Takuya and Tagiru, how well Taichi understands emotions and a bunch of other circumstances, everything will happen in a good or weird way.

As a gift, this is a drabble!

Masaru tilted his head at the scene at the park, with Agumon alongside him. Hiro was walking alongside him, holding Gammamon by his hands.

"Walking together in this place is a bit boring, don't you think so?" Masaru hummed, and Agumon chose to agree with him. "Well, I'd say aniki is right!"

Gammamon giggled at a dragonfly that decided to land on his nose before flying away. Hiro offered his "younger brother" some chocolates, and the Digimon seemed to enjoy his "Champion".

"Personally, I enjoy spending time like these moments. We almost don't have enough time just to relax together."

Enjoy it and tell me if there is anything wrong or weird in my whole post, my first asker!

[bossarmadimon]

2024 update

Taikari: You've never seen an admiring sibling relationship you didn't think was at at least a little bit sexual.

Kenari: You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of shared trauma.

GomaJou: You believe every stressed-out nerd needs a class clown to balance him out.

DaiRina: You are disappointed by the lack of beach episode in 02.

Takato/Guilmon: You're a scalie, but you're also into... uuuuh...

TerrRena: This is exactly the same joke as Jeri and Ruki, but you are a furry.

Beelzemon/Juri: You think Impmon did nothing wrong.

RenaLeo: You think Impmon did everything wrong.

Terriermon/Shiuchon: You have a fetish that you are either very closeted or very open about.

Shiuchon/Lopmon: You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of piggyback rides.

Reika/Megumi: You're a sucker for characters who are in desperate need of more screentime.

Takuya/Flamemon: I'm not going to say you want to ship your OC with a canon character, but you really want to ship your OC with a canon character.

Flamemon/Strabimon: Your ideal date involves wacky hijinxes, after which hilarity ensues.

Yoshino/Neon: This is exactly the same joke as Mimi and Daisuke.

Yoshino/Ivan: Your favorite relationship dynamic is verified himbo/certified morosexual.

Ikuto/Falcomon: You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of shared trauma.

Gotsumon/Ikuto: You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of gaslighting.

Rosemon/Yoshino: Your ideal date involve getting stepped on.

Masaru/Satsuma: You absolutely want to fuck dads.

Yoshino/Sayuri: You are a lesbian who wants to fuck MILFs.

Megumi/Miki: This is exactly the same joke as Megumi and Reika, but you're also a sucker for women in uniforms.

Piyomon/Chika: You just want good things for Chika.

DarKnightmon/Nene: Your favorite relationship dynamic is Beauty and the Beast.

Akari/Lilithmon: This is exactly the same joke as Ikuto and Gotsumon, except you're also a lesbian.

Tagiru/Airu: When you were little, your mother told you that the kid who kept bullying you actually liked you and you've never let go of that.

Ryouma/Psychemon: If you'd been born a whole generation earlier, you'd probably be shipping Juri and Leomon.

Airu/Ren: If you'd been born a whole generation earlier, you'd definitely be shipping Mimi and Yamato.

Yuujin/Rei: Your online dating profile is "Nerd seeks Dissociative System"

Eri/Ai: I don't know what you, a yuri fan, are doing in this fandom, but hey, good on you for making the best of it.

Eri/Dokamon: Your ideal date involves being carried into the sunset by a buff man who drinks nothing but Respect Woman juice.

Yuuji/Offmon: You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of uncontrollable power.

Haru/Gatchmon: This is just Shoutmon and Taiki, but for people who are into chibis.

Torajirou/Musimon: Your ideal date involves a livestreamed relationship reveal.

Ruri/Hiro: This is exactly the same joke as Mimi and Yamato, but I'm not sure that even applies if there was never a love triangle in the first place.

Hiro/Kiyoshiro: You're always a sucker for chaotic nerds. And it's definitely because you think you can fix them.

Hiro/Kiyoshiro (Digimon Gray Matter AU): You are a firm believer in maximizing the amount of chaotic energy in a couple as much as possible.

Gammamon/Hiro: This is exactly the same joke as Jouri but you're also a scalie.

Gulus/Gamma: Your favorite relationship dynamic is the plot of the movie Venom.

Gulus/Hiro: Ghost Game may not have started your addiction to smug, edgy characters who are better than every one else and can prove it, but it sure didn't help.

Emma/Kiyoshiro: Your answer to the question "Would you still fuck me if I was a worm" is "Yes, absolutely".

What your favorite digimon ship says about you

(with apologies to @doubleca5t )

Taito: You think the anime has only gone downhill since Adventure.

Takouji: If you’d been born a few years earlier, you’d probably have been shipping Taichi and Yamato.

Tomato: If you’d been born a few years earlier, you’d probably have been shipping Takuya and Kouji.

Kiriki: If you’d been born a few years earlier, you’d probably have been shipping Thomas and Masaru.

Tagiyuu (Tagiru/Yuu): If you’d been born a few years earlier, you’d probably have been shipping Kiriha and Taiki.

Taiora: You absolutely refuse to acknowledge the epilogue.

Sorato: You appreciate the canon validation, but you absolutely refuse to acknowledge the epilogue anyway.

Joumi: You want to be stepped on by Mimi Tachikawa.

Koumi: Your ideal date involves confusing the hell out of each others.

Mira: Your favorite relationship dynamic is butch/femme.

Vamdemon/Piedmon: Your favorite relationship dynamic is a RuPaul’s Drag Race catfight.

Yamato/Gabumon: Your favorite relationship dynamic is powerbottom/service top.

Thomas/Gaomon: This is exactly the same joke as Gabumon/Yamato, but even more so.

Miyako/Hawkmon: This is exactly the same joke as Gabumon/Yamato, but you’re heterosexual.

Wizartail: Your favorite relationship dynamic is the plot of the live-action Casper movie.

Mimato: You appreciate the fact having to work with nothing at all means you’re unlikely to contradict their canon interactions.

Joushirou: You’re just here for some disaster bisexuals.

Ogremon/Leomon: You’re just here for some baras.

Miyaora: You’re just here for some tomboys.

Jouyako: You’re just here for some meganes.

Ioyako: You just wanted good things for Iori, and really, who wouldn’t?

Taisuke: You ideal date involves getting your sempai to notice you.

Jouri: Your interest in sempai/kohai is outweighed only by your overwhelming love of height differences.

Miyami: Your ideal high school romance is nerd/prep.

Kouyako: Your ideal high school romance is nerd/nerd.

Yamasuke: Your ideal high school romance is band kid/jock.

Kenyako: Your ideal high school romance is marrying straight out of high school… oh, and you absolutely refuse to acknowledge the epilogue anyway.

Daiken: You are a firm believer in dating your best friend.

Daikeru: You are a firm believer in resolving love triangles by ignoring the axis.

Daiyako:You’re always a sucker for a dumbass in love.

Daiori: You’re always a sucker for an unsuspecting bystander having to deal with a dumbass in love.

Hikeyako: Your favorite relationship dynamic is two women tired of dealing with one dumbass in love’s bullshit.

Mimori: This is exactly the same joke as Mimato, except even more so.

Daikari: You are heterosexual.

Takari: You are heterosexual and you absolutely refuse to acknowledge the epilogue.

Angemon/Angewomon: You are extremely heterosexual.

RenaLeo: You are extremely heterosexual and you are a furry.

RenaFlame: Your interest in hetero furry ships is outweighed only by your interest in twinks.

Veetail: You are a furry, and you don’t mind being weird about it.

Mukeni: You just wanna fuck villains, and really, who wouldn’t?

Jurato: You are a firm believer in keeping things canon and keeping things wholesome.

Jenkato: You are a firm believer in keeping things gay and keeping it to the main characters only.

Patatail: This is exactly the same joke as Jurato, but you’re also a furry.

Juri/Leomon: You’re always a sucker for breaking the cutie.

Jenruki:You’re always a sucker for slow burn.

Rukato: You are a firm believer in 👏 men 👏 getting 👏 pegged

Takazu: Your addiction to dumbasses in love got so bad that one day you went “Hey, you know what’s even better than a dumbass in love? Two dumbasses in love.”.

Ryuki (Ryou/Ruki): Your favorite relationship dynamic is Prom Queen/Prom King.

Renamon/Rika: you either want a girlfriend who can bridal carry you, or you want to bridal carry your girlfriend.

RenaGuil: Your ideal high school romance is jock/dumbass.

ImpRena: Your ideal high school romance is jock/goth.

ImpTerrier: Your ideal high school romance is goth/theater kid.

ImpCulu: Your ideal high school romance is goth/dumbass.

Ryokazu: You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of hero worship.

Hirota: You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of accidentally kissing.

Takumi: This is exactly the same joke as Daikari, but even more so, and with some actual canon validation.

Kouzumi: Your interest in heterosexual pairings is outweighed only by your crippling addiction to edgy boys who have trouble talking about their feelings.

Junzoumi: You just wanted good things for Junpei, and really, who wouldn’t?

KouKou: You’re always a sucker for incest.

Tomoya: You want to fuck brother figures.

RanaKaze: You’re just here for some monster girls.

LordKnightmon/Dynasmon: You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of high camp.

Yohmas: You can’t resist the draw of shipping the good-looking ones together.

Yosaru (Yoshino/Masaru): Your interest in bitter rivalries is ouweighed only by your love of bickering married couples.

Daitsuma: You want to fuck father figures.

Ikushino: You want to fuck mother figures.

DaiLeo (Daimon/BanchouLeomon): Your ideal date involves going to the gym and spotting each others.

Meguki (Megumi/Miki):You’re always a sucker for characters who are in desperate need of more screen time.

Thoka (Thomas/Chika): Your favorite relationship dynamic is a third grader telling their teacher they’re gonna marry them when they get older.

Ikuka: You’re always a sucker for reformed bad boys.

Dairata (Daimon/Kurata): You’re always a sucker for a character who starts off as a complete asshole and then gets much, much worse.

Akaki: Your favorite relationship dynamic is bickering married couples.

Taiyuu: Your favorite relationship dynamic is enemies to lovers.

Taikirou (Taiki/Zenjirou): You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of one-sided rivalries.

Neiki (Nene/Taiki): You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of stalking.

Zenjine: Your ideal date involves walking in on each others.

Kirine: You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of deep-seated mistrust.

Kirijirou: Your favorite high school romance is jock/jock.

Zenjiri: You believe there is nothing stronger than the bond of two people who are sick of one man’s bullshit.

LilySting: If you’d been born a whole generation earlier, you’d probrably be shipping Patamon and Tailmon.

BallisShout: You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of “Guy Love”.

BeelMerva: Nothing gets you on board faster than characters who have no idea where they are going with this.

Aigiru (Airu/Tagiru): You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of bullying.

Tagiki (Tagiru/Taiki): If you’d been born a whole generation earlier, you’d probrably be shipping Taichi and Daisuke.

Harai (Haru/Ai): If you’d been born a whole generation earlier, you’d probrably be shipping Juri and Takato.

ToraEri: Your favorite relationship dynamic is feuding youtubers with UST.

Eriru (Eri/Haru): You either want a girlfriend that could kick your ass, or you want to be a girlfriend who kicks her boyfriend’s ass.

ToraHaru: Your ideal date is livestreaming together.

Harujin: You’re always a sucker for shippers on deck.

Maigo (Maki/Daigo): You would’ve shipped Juri/Leomon, but you thought Juri didn’t get broken hard enough.

Meimi (Meiko/Mimi): Your favorite relationship dynamic is cinnamon roll/sinnamon roll.

Ryou/Milleniumon: You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of trying to kill each others.

[leader-with-no-goggles]

@blackeyed-beelzebumon-blog

‘’Beelzebumon, I’m calling you out! Fight me!’’

[commentaryvorg]

Digimon Data Squad Dub Comparison Episode 8 - The Singer’s Secret

This is a companion to my commentary on the original Japanese Digimon Savers! Reading my commentary on the original version of this episode (which you can find here) is recommended before reading this dub comparison. 

Original name ~ Dubbed name

Masaru Daimon ~ Marcus Damon

Yoshino Fujieda ~ Yoshino “Yoshi” Fujieda

Tohma H. Norstein ~ Thomas H. Norstein

Chika Daimon ~ Kristy Damon

Captain Rentarou Satsuma ~ Commander Richard Sampson

Hitoshi “Neon” Hanamura ~ Neon

[Since several characters share the same name between the original and the dub, quotes from the dub will always be in italics, while quotes from the original will not, in order to distinguish them.]

Since the dub constantly varies which character reads out the title card for each episode, I have to side-eye the fact that it’s Marcus and not Yoshi reading out the title card for Yoshi’s episode.

Marcus: “And now it’s eatin’ time!”

I am amused by the variation on Marcus’s “it’s fightin’ time” catchphrase. Gotta find something to replace the very-Japanese itadakimasu, and this sounds less awkward than a lot of things would in a very dorkily Marcus way.

Reporter:  “We won’t name names, but only because we haven’t discovered who she is… *yet*.”

The dub appears to be leaning into the seediness of this whole gossip thing even more than the original, which I guess is fair, since it was already pretty seedy to begin with.

Megumi:  “What’s the meaning of this?”

Miki:  “How did you, the meekest of us all among DATS members…”

Megumi:  “…Manage to snag Hanamura Neon?”

~~~~~

Megumi: “You’re dating Neon?!”

Miki: “That ring a bell, Miss Keep-Secrets-From-Her-Friends?”

Megumi:  “We read all about it in the newspaper!”

I actually somewhat prefer Megumi and Miki’s angle in the dub. Instead of being jealous and putting her down as if she doesn’t deserve to date a celebrity because she’s too “meek” or whatever, they only appear to be upset that she didn’t tell them this because they consider themselves someone she’d share this sort of thing with. (Whether they actually are that is another matter; Yoshi never seems especially close with these two. But at least that is a less tiresomely misogynistic thing for them to be being unreasonable about.)

Megumi:  “We’ve been getting phone calls one after another since morning!”

Miki:  “We’re also getting loads of hate mail from Neon’s fans!”

Megumi:  “They’re demanding to know who Fujieda Yoshino thinks she is!”

~~~~~

Megumi: “We’ve been getting phone calls all morning long asking for Yoshi to give interviews!”

Miki:  “Not to mention the mail from Neon’s fans. My papercuts have papercuts!”

Megumi: “Everyone wants to know who ‘Yoshi’ is!”

Neon’s other fans are also apparently being a little more reasonable in the dub. Rather than being jealous and hateful (“who she thinks she is” very much carries connotations of them acting like she’s too ordinary to deserve to date a celebrity), they instead seem to be suddenly treating Yoshi like a celebrity as well. Even though jealousy and hate is definitely the way a fanbase would be likely to act to something like this in real life, I do not mind at all that the dub is toning this part down.

Yoshi: “…and I wore a hat. That’s a foolproof disguise!”

Apparently Yoshi subscribes to superhero universe logic if she believed that that was ever going to work. She had a hat and sunglasses; totally couldn’t have possibly been recognised.

Thomas then pulls up the photo that was taken of Yoshi after she took her hat and sunglasses off, amusingly implying that that’s the only reason she got busted and she totally would have been fine otherwise.

Thomas: “Your name, phone number, even your favourite music… Hmm, showtunes.”

Based on his tone, Thomas appears to be judging Yoshi for her taste in music, which doesn’t really seem like the kind of thing he would do. The dub just threw in that quick gag without thinking about if it fit the character.

Also, if, according to the dub, the information published about her included her phone number, why isn’t Yoshi herself the one getting all the phone calls and not her workplace? The dub does not mention her workplace being one of the details that was made public about her, so why Miki and Megumi have been swamped with letters and phone calls about this is a mystery.

Agumon:  “What’s an undercover investigation?”

~~~~~

Agumon: “Under what cover?”

Oh hey, dub, remember how Agumon shouldn’t know a whole bunch of human terms because he only recently came into the human world? And hey, look, you can make jokes with that, too, rather than making jokes with things that it doesn’t make any sense for Agumon to be saying!

Tohma:  “So if we carelessly break in, we’ll be kicked out before we know it.”

~~~~~

Thomas:  “So if we rush in, the Digimon will know that we’re after him.”

Gaomon: “And he’ll run.”

The dub actually gives a much better excuse for why the building’s hi-tech security system means they can’t just rush in: not because the security guards will kick them out, since they should be able to pull DATS authority on that, but rather because it’ll alert Keramon than they’re coming. Good job, dub, fixing a plot hole!

Unfortunately, despite the dub’s attempts to remove Miki and Megumi’s jealousy of Yoshi and turn it into them just having wanted the gossip, which I appreciated, the dub can’t really change the part where they jealously complain that they weren’t the ones to get to (fake) date Neon. Their animations for that are too extreme to really be interpreted as anything else.

Yoshino:  “Neon is my childhood friend.”

~~~~~

Yoshi:  “I knew Neon when we were children.”

Yoshi doesn’t mention the fact that he was specifically her friend. Their conversation later in the episode is still going to clearly establish that they were indeed on friendly terms back then, but I feel it’s a bit of a shame that their friendship isn’t something Yoshi outright mentions here. Her friendship with him is obviously quite important to her and to how she approaches investigating him; it makes sense that she’d want to bring it up.

Yoshino:  “He’s completely different than before. He was shorter than me, and he was fat. When he debuted, I didn’t recognise him at all.”

~~~~~

Yoshi: “He’s so different than he used to be. He was just a shy little boy back then. I would never have guessed that he’d become such a success story.”

I am very disappointed at the dub leaving out the part where he used to be fat, because that’s an important detail that makes it significantly easier to imagine that he was probably bullied back then. Yoshi doesn’t mention that she literally didn’t even recognise him as a singer, either. The dub’s take on this is focused more on his personality and less on his image.

Under normal circumstances, that shift in focus might be a good thing, but in this particular context, image is an even more relevant thing in the celebrity world than personality is. And image also tends to be more important in terms of how likely a kid is to be bullied. This is watering down the interesting parts of Neon’s character and it makes me sad.

Yoshino:  “Hitoshi!”

~~~~~

Yoshi: “Hi, Neon!”

Another very significant change: apparently, Neon just is his real name in the dub? Or, if it’s a stage name, Yoshi doesn’t care and is happy to call him by that rather than by whatever name she knew him by as a kid. Neon having an ordinary real name and Yoshino insisting on using it (and him not liking her doing so in public) was a neat aspect of the original that helped showcase the vast contrast between who he used to be and who he is today – again, kind of the whole point of Neon’s character – so I’m very sad that the dub loses this, too.

(The dub also hasn’t mentioned his surname and just calls him “Neon” at all times. Which really doesn’t actually matter at all, because the connotations of the surname Hanamura that I talked about in the original post would obviously be lost on a Western audience (unless they changed his surname to a Western one with similar connotations – now there’d be an actual reason to give a Japanese character a Western name, for once!). But I am disappointed about it for a very silly reason anyway, because Neon’s English voice actor happens to also voice one of those other Hanamuras that I mentioned in that post (who incidentally happens to be one of my favourite fictional characters, which is probably the only reason I care about this), and it would have been a hilarious coincidence for him to have voiced two Hanamuras. He still sort of did anyway, but only sort of.)

Neon:  “I told you not to call me by my real name.”

Yoshino:  “What does it matter?”

Neon:  “You haven’t changed at all.”

~~~~~

Neon: “Hey, wanna blow off work and come to the beach with me?”

Yoshi: “Sorry, I can’t. Too much to do.”

Neon:  “Oh well, I guess it’s your loss then.”

Because Neon doesn’t have an ordinary real name in the dub, we also lose the exchange that told us some interesting things about Yoshino and Neon’s characters and how they see each other and their relationship, replaced with completely meaningless fluff. (Inviting her to blow off work and come to the beach with him is a significantly more usually-romantically-coded thing than anything else they actually do in the episode.)

Masaru:  “Is this really a mission?”

~~~~~

Marcus: “You do know this guy’s a criminal.”

Miki & Megumi: “Alleged criminal!”

Marcus: “Gimme a break!”

Instead of being exasperated by relationship nonsense, Marcus is instead really sure already that Neon’s a criminal and writing him off as not worthy of respect as a result. Miki and Megumi are being totally reasonable to point out that it’s only allegedly for now.

Masaru:  “But Yoshino…”

~~~~~

Marcus: “Yoshi, he’s hiding a Digimon.”

Marcus is way more sure and making a much bigger point of this than Masaru.

(Masaru may have already basically decided as well that Neon’s probably the culprit, but even if he had, I don’t think he’d really have cared. He’s not here for the crime-solving and human-focused side of things – so long as he gets to fight that Digimon, that’s all that matters to him!)

Yoshi and Neon have basically the same conversation about carrots as in the original, but it doesn’t have quite the same meaning without the detail that Neon used to be fat, implying that Yoshino was probably encouraging him to eat them to try and help him lose weight.

Yoshino:  “I was exercising parental love because I wanted you to eat healthy and get bigger.”

~~~~~

Yoshi: “Hey, I was just making sure you grew up big and strong by eating your veggies!”

The one real difference here is the lack of her mentioning parental love, which is a shame because I liked it emphasising the idea of Yoshino the mom friend. Perhaps they removed that because they’re trying to make this relationship seem more actually romantic. I also liked the idea that it really wasn’t that romantic in the original, at least on Yoshino’s end.

Yoshino:  “I remember you were never able to do anything on your own…”

Neon:  “Thanks for the meal.”

~~~~~

Yoshi: “This has been so much fun. It’s really a shame that you have to work tonight.”

Neon: “Wish I didn’t.”

Another really meaningful and interesting line about Neon’s kid self (and his subtly telling reaction to it) gets removed and replaced with more fluff. This isn’t even the dub accidentally losing meaningful bits because they’re missing the point; this is clearly them removing these interesting parts on purpose. Why. Neon’s character was one of the most compelling things about the original episode. All they’re doing is deliberately making this episode significantly less good.

Chika:  “Neon is so cool!”

Masaru:  “What part of him?”

~~~~~

Kristy:  “Oh man, that Neon is so cool!”

Marcus: “Yeah, right.”

Marcus sounds so weirdly bitter here, like he really has firmly decided that Neon sucks and doesn’t deserve anyone’s admiration because he’s A Criminal. Why the hell does he care so much? Masaru was just bewildered as to what the big deal about him was in a way that had nothing to do with the suspected Digimon-harbouring.

Chika:  “Obviously, the part where he tries so hard to protect his girlfriend!”

~~~~~

Kristy:  “Do you think I’ll ever date someone who’s as cool and sweet as Neon?”

Kristy also does not specify that she admires Neon for trying to keep his girlfriend out of the limelight, which I appreciated Chika doing.

Kristy: “Just have him make it out to ‘Superfan Kristy the Most Beautiful Girl in the Whole World’.”

Geez. Kristy: still noticeably more of a brat than Chika.

Masaru:  “Look, Chika, you wouldn’t like it if other people were prying about who you like or date, right? It’s the same with Yoshino. That’s to say nothing of the fact that you’re demanding his autograph just because he’s a celebrity…”

~~~~~

Marcus: “Look, you wouldn’t like it if people kept prying into the private details of your life – I mean, if you had any. Well, Yoshi’s the same. Besides, Neon is probably sick of signing autographs for annoying fans.”

Marcus is technically giving the same sort of advice here, but my god, he is being way more of a dick about it than is necessary. The dub is ruining Masaru’s adorable fatherly-advice moment and turning it into a Marcus Is A Jerk™ moment instead and I don’t like it one bit.

Kristy: “You think I’m annoying, Marcus…?”

And so in this version, Kristy is actually pretty within reason to get upset, because her brother was being a dick. (Though she was also being slightly more annoying and bratty about the autograph thing than Chika was in the first place.)

Promotional video: “Hey everybody! Have you heard the new song by pop sensation Neon? Download it today, and tell all your friends, too!”

The dub version of the “promotional video” actually has a voiceover and therefore is vaguely more believable as an actual promotion than just a weird silent two second loop. Fixing another minor plot hole, dub, well done.

The dub completely cuts out the security guard who confronts Masaru at the door, probably because they didn’t want to include the part where Masaru assaults the guy. This is despite the fact that in the original episode, Masaru implicitly gets in trouble for this later when the guy wakes up, and otherwise generally comes across as having acted very rashly and unreasonably for this whole situation. But nah, apparently we can’t have our kids’ show protagonist do a bad thing, not even when the story presents it like it was kind of a bad thing to do.

Marcus: “Open the door, I’m here to protect you!”

Masaru never actually mentioned that he’s here to protect Yoshino, even though the possibility that she was in trouble is most of the reason why he came. Marcus making an explicit point of this is him making things a lot more about himself than Masaru did, like him coming here is mostly him wanting to seem like the Big Hero, rather than him genuinely just being worried about his friend.

Yoshino:  “Masaru! What are you…?”

~~~~~

Yoshi: “Marcus, what are you doing?! You’ll blow it; Neon’s here! Go away!”

Yoshi gets a longer line here – they’re probably filling in time lost from cutting the security guard – but in the process I can’t help but think that Neon should have heard the “you’ll blow it” part, since he shows up at the door just a second later. Which in fact would have been Yoshi blowing it and not Marcus.

Masaru:  “Don’t play dumb! This was all part of your scheme!”

Neon:  “Wh-What are you doing? Who are you?!”

Masaru:  “What are you plotting, using that Digimon?!”

~~~~~

Marcus: “Don’t play dumb; I know what you’re up to!”

Neon: “What do you mean? Who are you?!”

Marcus: “Just confess and tell me what you have planned in that mind of yours!”

So, despite Marcus having been significantly more convinced than Masaru ever was that Neon is definitely hiding a Digimon, he’s… not bringing up the Digimon for some reason now that he’s actually confronting Neon, even though Masaru did. What the hell.

The dub cuts the moment of Yoshino slapping Masaru, albeit not very convincingly, since there’s still a shot of him briefly looking like he’s just been slapped, and then a visible mark on his face a shot later.

Yoshino:  “How dare you suddenly intrude into other people’s houses! How about you consider *not* being a nuisance to others for a change!”

~~~~~

Yoshi: “Who do you think you are, barging into somebody’s house just for a measly autograph?! I don’t care how big a fan you are, you better learn some manners, kid!”

I do enjoy Yoshi putting on even more of an act here, trying to make it look like Marcus is some crazed fan desperate for an autograph. Though I’m not sure that angle entirely matches with Marcus’s behaviour of grabbing Neon and demanding that he confesses what he’s up to. Then again, Neon is going to figure out people are onto him from this either way, so I guess it doesn’t matter how convincing Yoshi is or isn’t.

Masaru:  “Hey, wait! I said wait! What was that for?”

Yoshino:  “You’re ruining my undercover investigation.”

~~~~~

Marcus: “What was all that for, Yoshi?”

Yoshi:  “To stop *you* from blowing my cover and all of my hard work.”

I enjoy Yoshi being more pointedly annoyed about this with her emphasis that he’s ruining her hard work. She has a right to be.

Masaru:  “What the hell, I was just worried about her.”

~~~~~

Marcus: “Well, I’m so sorry for trying to save you!”

Marcus! This is not about you! Masaru wasn’t trying to make this about himself; he was just worried about his friend – but Marcus is making this all about him Being The Hero and him being the one to save her.

It’s not that I don’t hypothetically enjoy characters who have issues along those lines, but that should not be the point with Marcus here. The dub isn’t going to go anywhere interesting with this because it wasn’t a thing in the original, so instead this just sticks out as another thing making Marcus more self-absorbed.

The security guard showing up here now is still there in the dub, even though they cut Masaru knocking him out earlier.

Sampson: “Keramon’s making it seem like Neon’s selling more songs than he is.”

[…]

Kudamon: “The more popular people think he is, the more albums they buy.”

They have an interesting point here not brought up in the original, that even if Keramon is only making Neon look more popular by messing with the figures, that’s going to result in actually making him more popular. In the original, it was unclear exactly what kind of manipulation Keramon had been doing (until the obvious stunt last night) and I sort of vaguely got the impression that it’d been actually making people download his songs even if they never wanted to. Then again, that might be obvious enough that people would have reported it, so perhaps things were always meant to be how the dub is explaining them to be here. Good job to the dub again for making that clearer. (…Or so I thought; hold this thought.)

Thomas: “Clearly, Neon’s making a fortune through fraud.”

I don’t especially like the dub adding this, though, because Neon should not be doing this for the money. He’s doing this for the popularity. Admittedly Thomas is only speculating and wouldn’t know better, but him stating it like this makes it seem like this is the correct conclusion to make about Neon’s motives.

Neon:  “To think that you were one of them…”

Yoshino:  “It’s prohibited to give a Digimon refuge!”

~~~~~

Neon:  “I just can’t believe you were a part of this. I trusted you!”

Yoshi: “Yeah, that’s why you told me all about your illegal Digimon!”

I enjoy Yoshi actually somewhat responding to the accusation of betrayal by pointing out that he was hiding something from her as well. Though I also do think Yoshino’s response of completely avoiding the topic says something interesting in and of itself.

Neon:  “Don’t order me around!”

~~~~~

Neon: “Don’t you judge me!”

While the “don’t order me around” perhaps touched on Neon’s past of not being able to do much on his own, “don’t judge me” would also potentially touch on his past of being bullied. However, I can’t help but think that’s more by luck than judgement on the dub’s part, since they went and deliberately removed so many of the other hints of Neon’s past even being like that in the first place.

Neon:  “He distributes my songs around the world and manipulates music charts…”

Wait, so Keramon actually does forcibly distribute the songs even to people who don’t want them, and not just fake the figures so that people will be more likely to check out what the fuss is about?

Yeah, actually, this line is basically exactly what Neon said here originally, so I guess that is what was meant to have been going on after all. Sampson and Kudamon must have missed that part when they were discussing things earlier.

Yoshino:  “Hitoshi, stop this!”

~~~~~

Yoshi: “You have to stop this. Fraud is a criminal offence!”

Though the lack of her being able to call him Hitoshi is a bad thing again, I do appreciate Yoshi pointing out that fraud is a crime. Even aside from DATS’s rules that nobody’s allowed to have a Digimon unless they’re a DATS member, Neon has still been breaking the regular law anyway, and the original didn’t really emphasise that very much.

They cut out the moment of Keramon grabbing Yoshi by the neck, but they do still show her being held like that in a shot a second later.

Neon:  “No way! Keramon is my partner!”

~~~~~

Neon: “Keramon is my partner just like your Digimon! I wouldn’t betray him any more than you’d betray them!”

Dub-Neon is very deliberately making the parallel to DATS’s Digimon rather than only accidentally invoking it by happening to use the same word – but it really isn’t a parallel he should be making deliberately. Keramon is not a person. It hasn’t spoken or expressed its own desires or sense of self at all; it’s just giggled creepily and done as he’s ordered it to. There is no actual meaningful bond of friendship here for Neon to care about not wanting to betray.

I think the dub added this in because the dubbers actually think that it’s basically the same deal going on with Neon and Keramon as with DATS and their partners. But it really, really isn’t.

Neon:  “Thanks to him, my songs are played throughout the world! He’s making me famous!”

~~~~~

Neon:  “He made me rich and famous!”

Famous, yes, but the money is not the point, dub. Neon in the original never mentioned money as being part of why he’s doing this.

Also, the past tense implies that it’s only because of Keramon that Neon became famous at all. Which I really doubt is supposed to be the case, because there’s no sense given at any point that Neon just burst into the public eye out of nowhere within the past month since he’s had Keramon. He must have been already doing reasonably well on his own merit before he started using fraud.

Masaru:  “What’s this crap about him making you famous?! It’s not through your own efforts! If you wanted to change yourself through your music, then do it using your own merit!”

~~~~~

Marcus: “Your whole career is a giant lie! You haven’t actually achieved anything! That Digimon of yours did everything for you; you’re nothing but a phony!”

…But it seems the dub really wants us to think that it’s only because of Keramon that Neon got anywhere at all and he was never genuinely good enough to deserve any amount of success whatsoever. I think the dubbers might have missed the point of this as well and believed that that was actually what was going on in the original episode.

And of course, because of this, we lose the interesting nuanced moment of Masaru being really good and pointing out that Neon should have kept working at this using his own merit. Instead we just get Marcus boringly shooting him down completely.

Yoshino:  “Stop!”

Lalamon:  “Stop!”

~~~~~

Yoshi:  “No pictures!”

Lalamon: “Give me that camera!”

Lalamon demanding the camera further emphasises the point of Yoshi choosing to do this instead of fight, and it gives more of a vague impression that maybe she really does take the camera and wipe the pictures offscreen, even though we won’t be seeing it. I approve.

Neon:  “Everyone needs to quit making fun of me!”

~~~~~

Neon:  “My career’s ruined now, and you’re gonna pay!”

Unsurprisingly, after everything the dub has already removed about Neon’s interesting aspects, they also remove probably the most interesting line – the one that very strongly hints he used to be bullied and that this has all been about him breaking away from that in a way that gradually became more and more desperate and obsessive to the point of illegality.

Instead, dub-Neon is somebody who wanted to be rich and famous just because, apparently had genuinely no actual talent or merit to base that on whatsoever, and just faked his entire success story (which the dub expects us to think he could have believably done within a month) using Digimon-driven fraud. That’s just… boring.

It also makes it significantly less interesting and meaningful why Keramon evolves in response to these words, though I suppose a burst of vengeful anger at them for ruining his fraudulent career is still reasonable enough to do it.

Masaru:  “Change places! Let’s go, Agumon!”

~~~~~

Marcus: “We’ll take ‘im! It’s fightin’ time!”

I am mildly sad at the loss of the sense that Masaru sees this as him tagging in for Tohma and being equal teammates with him, rather than trying to grab all the glory himself.

Neon:  “Even the memory of when we met again?”

~~~~~

Neon: “Even the stuff about you and me?”

In the dub, Neon makes this just about losing what their relationship is now and nothing else. I liked the sense that, after all the fraud had been uncovered and he’d basically given up, original-Neon was mostly sad to lose the memory of seeing her again, his childhood friend who was there for him during that tough time and could be proud of how far he’d come.

Overall differences

This episode has quite a few significant differences, with a lot of them being bad, but at least there’s a small handful of good ones too, for once.

Let’s start with the good ones. This episode’s dub actually has a couple of small fixes to some minor logic issues the original had. They explained that they can’t break into Neon’s building because the high security meant that Neon/Keramon would see them coming and run, which made a lot more sense. Then they gave the promo video a voiceover, making it a lot more believable as a promo video than some weird silent two-second loop.

Yoshi also has a few minor good bits: leaning more into the story that Marcus is a crazed fan when he shows up at the door, pointing out that fraud is a crime. I also appreciate that they attempted to tone down Miki and Megumi’s harshness towards her at least a little.

But onto the bad stuff: the really huge glaring problem with the dub of this episode is Neon. Neon’s character was the big saving grace of this otherwise not especially interesting episode to me in the original, and none of what makes him that way is present in the dub. All of the hints of him being weak and helpless and probably-bullied as a kid are watered down into him simply having been kind of shy, there’s no hints of him remaking his image (no mention that Neon is a stage name; for all we know in the dub, that’s somehow his real name), and way too much emphasis put on him doing this for money, not just fame. If Marcus is to be believed, he had absolutely zero talent and got where he was entirely through Keramon’s meddling, which is extremely unrealistic to have happened in a single month without anyone questioning it and is also way, way less interesting. Dub-Neon is just some boring flat villain greedy for fame and fortune, rather than an interestingly messed-up character.

And it’s really strange to me that this character assassination is so complete and consistent that it must have been deliberate? The dub writers consciously decided to remove everything that made this episode’s focus character interesting. Why in the world would they choose to do that.

Then there’s this episode’s treatment of Marcus, which is standard fare at this point but still frustrating enough that I am always going to talk about it when it happens in any significant amount.

He’s more insistent that Neon’s harbouring a Digimon from the start despite the lack of proof, but then, bizarrely, doesn’t bring up Digimon when he breaks in even though Masaru did. He makes the breaking-in part a lot more About Himself by making a point that he’s here to save Yoshi, which is a very different thing than Masaru coming there in case Yoshino needed saving but not actually caring whether she knows it or not. Marcus is also more of an unnecessary dick to his sister in the bit where she’s asking him for Neon’s autograph. And the interesting nuance that Masaru had in his speech to Neon, about putting in effort and changing yourself through your own merits, is lost in favour of this new boring narrative where Neon apparently had zero talent and deserved none of his fame in the first place.

Oh, and the bit where Masaru attacked the security guard was cut, because I guess your kids’ show protagonist isn’t allowed to attack a responsible adult, even when the narrative presents this as a bad thing that he shouldn’t have done and implicitly gets in trouble for.

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I set Savers in its airing year, so Masaru was born in '92. Can take place anytime after episode 49. However, there just won't be any explicit sexual content regardless of when the thread takes place. I also don't auto-ship: I'm here to walk a character through things, so ships will all be more slow-burn. Also, while Masaru's just pan, I'm actually asexual, so don't even expect me to present beyond a textbook understanding of sexual attraction

Masaru's kind of a jerk. My other two muses are generally at least kind unless the other person isn't, but Masaru's kind of abrasive and gleefully violent. If we're playing, I'll probably warn you beforehand, but Masaru may snap at your muse if your muse isn't a little kid. If your muse didn't deserve it, he'll probably apologise at some point, but yeah, this muse is even less like me than 02's Ken (Bleach's Ichigo is my muse most like me)

I'm on mobile. Period. I can't cut threads. I usually just tag "long post." Can't cut threads.

Seen JP ver only. Haven't seen any others, and I have no reason to bother--the original's in my native. Why would I bother with "orange juice bomb"?

Masaru is mixed race here. In a planned project that's a sister project to my Bleach project I already got a bit of stuff up for, Masaru's mum is Japanese and Russian, and related to Junpei of Frontier, and Masaru's dad was Japanese and Afghani. Masaru actually does speak Japanese, Russian, and Persian.

Masaru's also trans here. He never got puberty blockers, but he finally got testosterone at 13. So his voice changed at a pretty normal age. But he does need a binder and all that. (He loved that black tank top he wears after the memory wipe because it was just the right cut to cover the binder while showing off his arm muscles!) He does someday want kids, and Japanese law, like most US states or most places, requires sterilisation to recognise gender change. His papers also say a different first name. Of course, this probably came up with Satuma. Satuma and payroll at DATS probably know all about it. But being trans isn't *as* hard in Japan as the Anglophonic world. Especially thanks to Kamikawa Aya advocating on outlets like NHK radio since '95, which Masaru would be three then.

I toss the epilogue. Don't like the losing their digimon, and Masaru ditching his family he feels so responsible for and his dad he just got back?

Actually, in my project, ep 48 never happens. Suguru is dead, DATS remains, and Sayuri gets BanchouLeomon as her digimon partner.

Oh, another rule--poor spelling and grammar is acceptable if you are not a native speaker. It infuriates me to no end that I'm supposed to be an idiot for being fluent in three just because English is not my first, but native speakers get to run around spelling "bins" "ben's" and congratulating themselves for "kohnichuwa" but I get beaten/decried for actually knowing the language... And also, ,ZERO TOLERANCE for "garnish my human default English with exotic Japanese uwu" See "zero tolerance for chasers and racism"

Totally available to play in Japanese or Spanish, but you must be fluent.

Masaru lives in Tobechou, Yokohama. I went to the Chinatown in Yokohama once with my dad, but I lived in Koube. And we didn't leave Hanshin region all that much. My knowledge of much outside there being a Chinatown in the '80s (obviously still there, as it was the setting for the Savers movie) and big landmarks like Minatomirai is minimal. I also haven't been back to Japan period since '94. My relatives there are all deceased since the '90s, and flights alone are 1,000$, which, until recently, was definitely over a month of rent. Two for a studio, one plus a couple hundred for a 1 or 2LDK, depending. Might even have had 1.5 baths. By the time Savers was airing in Japan, I was able to keep up with Japanese news via now-gone Japanese-language broadcasts in California, as well as the Web, which is also how I saw Savers. But my knowledge of Japanese things may run the risk of being almost 30 years out of date. Or it might be completely current because I still read Asahi News, the most left-leaning paper I can find. Unsure if related to Hanshin region channel 6, but channel 6 was the best when I was there.

The Daimon family didn't move when Masaru came out, but he came out pretty young. It's just difficult to get trans care for minors. That being said, most peers don't know he's trans. They do know he's mixed, though. That being said, it's not like it's *only* him fighting racist bullies. It's only partially that. Like I said, I fully acknowledge he's pretty abrasive. So he's not completely blameless for all the fights. He could easily someday be the kind of parent who gets arrested for punching a rival dad. Violence is not a last resort for him. It's the best resort.

I do multi-para and don't use icons. But I'm not asking for an exact word count match. All I ask is give me stuff to go off of in replies and for Heaven's sake, do *not* format like House of Leaves when you play with me. Format button abuse looks like a visual panic attack, and is just too chaotic for me to read.

I may go spotty on replies with you. I'll still chat with you via the messenger thingy, and I don't play with people I've never spoken to, even if I've started the interaction, because I need to filter for my sanity, so I need to know the people I play with aren't gonna pull racism or something on me, but when my replies slow, it's because I work on-call at a shelter for seriously physically ill people, I'm also disabled myself, and I don't have the ability to put enough energy for the high-quality replies I strive to give in at the moment. I'm stalling because I want to give you my best. If I want to drop a thread, which is admittedly rare, I'll let you know. I won't leave you guessing.

Some h/cs just for fun

Masaru loves metal. The metal I know is 70s prog and 80s glam metal and stuff. I don't really like much music past about '94, and exactly two albums after 2000 (neither are metal)

Masaru has always had the same kind of attention span I have now even though I completely didn't when I was younger. He's running commentary if you watch an movie with him, his biggest problem with school is the whole sitting and passively listening to a lecture part, he thinks he doesn't like reading because others always talk about sitting there and reading for hours on end (if he's older, he may have realised it's OK to read for 20-minute bursts, something I eventually realised, too). He only really learns by doing. That being said, depending on age, he may not have had the chance to *realise* that yet.

He wouldn't become a sumo wrestler, but he totally watches it. Honestly, any fighting sport, and he's there.

He's very Japanese as far as religion. Sort of takes part and believes in a lot of them at the same time, but none are a overly influential part of his life. This is a thing.

Crossovers with any season preceding Savers are pretty easy with this blog considering my project. The project will eventually merge with the Bleach project, toi, so I also have a thing for that. Overall, I welcome crossovers with most animated media. Live action, I'll consider if you don't use icons with me (it ends up looking like Who Framed Roger Rabbit in my head) I don't do any real person stuff beyond, say, having Masaru listen to real bands or know of other public figures.

There is also a flexibility in playing Masaru in other countries. He could visit family in Russia or Afghanistan, he can be sent over from DATS to help with digimon appearances in countries allied with Japan (coughcontroloverjapanliketheuscough) or I totally ship him with Touma, so he could be in whatever that country is (obviously a Germanic nation in Western Europe)

He's definitely leftist, but his tactics aren't really common among the left. Typically, it's the fascists that will throw the first punch. Except Masaru will, as well. Unfortunately, this means he can take *away* from, say, antifa efforts to counter demo anti-Korean rioters.

He looks down on most weapon use, but probably none more so than guns and other weapons that remove the user from the target. To him, anyone who hides safely behind a weapon and makes the fight so one-sided is a coward. To this extent, he thinks war should be done away with and the leaders of the countries should duel instead of America just wiping out thousands of Japanese (WWII) or Afghani (during his lifetime) civilians (well, in that war, it was definitely not the Afghani government's fault, as that was a radical rebel sect powered initially by Regean, but it was most certainly civilian deaths en masse)

Masaru cannot meditate at all. He's also very reactive. To that extent, he's never really done well with martial arts. There's a lot less focus on self-discipline in boxing and wrestling than in Aikido or karate or what have you. He'd probably love the intensity of Krav Maga or CQC. I just don't know if Krav Maga has a self-discipline component. CQC almost certainly doesn't--it's American.

More when I think of it.

[cpirits]

⋘ 𝑙𝑜𝑎𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑑𝑎𝑡𝑎... ⋙

Name: Daimon Masaru Age: 19 Birthday: April 2 Blood Type: B

Body Type: Muscular Height: 5′9″ Weight: 140lbs

Hair: Auburn Eyes: Muddy Gold

Digimon: Agumon

Agumon » GeoGreymon » RiseGreymon » ShineGreymon » ShineGreymon Ruin Mode

Occupation: The Digital World’s Ruin Hobbies: Street Fighting, Boxing, Swimming, & eating fried eggs

Appearance: The Second season shirt and vest along with his Father’s tag. Wears the same green pants but with Combat Boots as they’re a lot more sturdy on his feet for trekking in the Digital World. His hair is longer in the back and he keeps it tied like always. His wrists have been wrapped underneath the black bands.

::Summarized Background::

[Masaru here is portrayed as a mix of the whole series of Savers, having knowledge and memories from everything that went on in the show, having both 1st and 2nd season outfits and already being able to Digivolve Agumon to Shine Greymon+Shine Greymon Ruin Mode.]

[He is set taking refuge in the middle to end of the series in my thought timeline, yet carries knowledge of the end with shattering Yggdrasil’s true form. Though with my Headcannon, Yggdrasil was somehow revived and made anew so that’s why Suguru was captured a second time to become the body.]

[this holds both Cannon and Headcannon info.]

::Detailed Background::

When Masaru was 4, his father left with a team of researchers to go and discover the Digital World and learn about it. Before leaving Suguru gave his son a necklace, to always remember him, and it has become a thing on which Masaru makes promises on and his most prized possession.

As Masaru grew up, he had no father figure in his life, so he got picked on in school and had to valiantly protect his sister, Chika from bullies and other people who tried to hurt her. His mother was really hardly any help to the kids always staying home to clean and keep the house in order, and sending the kids out to play by themselves.

When Masaru was 12 he discovered street fighting as a way to make a little money in secret for his mom, and vent his anger. In these fights he eventually gave in to the darkness in his heart, and thus his Dark Digidestined identity was born.

At 14, Masaru got involved with Agumon, and eventually joined DATS and made many new friends, and learned more about his father. He ventured into the Digital world several times within the first few years of being with DATS.

Also at the age of 16, Masaru met his father, or rather, his father’s body in the Digital World, that had been possessed by Yggdrasil. His emotions created an inner turmoil as his father’s body spoke to him in a way that simply was not him.

When fighting against his fellow DATS memeber Tohma, who Masaru felt had betrayed him, Masaru realied on the darkness within to channel his power and Dark Digivolve Agumon into ShineGreymon Ruin Mode. Doing so was highly taxing on the Digimon and only fed deeper into changing Masaru.

Twice Masaru  tried to bring his father back, and Suguru’s partner, BanchouLeomon ended up dying the second time, so all hope was lost to bring the man home.

Some time passed and Masaru soon became wrapped up in the darkness of his heart, and became a Dark Digidestined, leaving his family and DATS behind, and living on his own.

At 19 Masaru travels back and forth from the Human World and Digital World, and is often seen upset or silent. When he is vocal however, he can be destructive.

*BanchoLeomon /is/ in a way, Masaru’s father, Suguru. Surugu gave his Digimon his spirit/Digisoul before he got nabbed and taken over by Yggdrasil.

[legendheroes]

Who is the worst influence to the younger google heads? I bet Daisuke and Taichi have a rought time because of it

It's okay, Anon, you can say Takuya.

Listen: I love Takuya, but EVEN OFFICIAL MATERIALS IMPLY IF TAKUYA HAD NO GOOD IN HIS HEART HE WOULD BE A BULLY/TROLL. The Frontier group is really a bunch of chaotic people.

I would vouch that Tagiru isn't that prone to intentionally messing things up. He's a hot-blooded type, so he tends to make people think, "Oh, that's definitely Tagiru, right?" But no, Tagiru is kind of cool when it's not related to the Digimon Hunting thing. And he doesn't want to be a bad influence. And yes, I meant it for both canon and LXW AU Tagiru portrayals.

Masaru and the others are not the type to be bad influences. Unless you count Taichi. But Taichi -- the one and oldest from the OG Advverse -- is a mature adult, so he wouldn't be happy to be a bad influence on someone else.

And Daisuke is also too busy that even his accidental influence doesn't seem to have much effect on anyone. Except for Rui and Tagiru, of course.

[legendheroes]

now that i've gone through most of the posts how does takuya feel about the royal knights from other timelines + adventure + r!agumon being able to become omegamon?

Takuya: There's MORE of those [Censored]?!!

Daisuke: Hey, kiddo I have no idea what's your beef with those Royal Knights, but don't condemn the rest of us for that!

Taichi: Exactly! I don't even think if Omegamon and Magnamon count as Royal Knights. I mean, We're hearing this big news right now.

Agumon: Um... I never was one of them though...

V-mon: Me neither!

Takato: Uhh, D-don't treat Guilmon and I as bullies, we never hurt anyone before!!

Masaru: Yeah, your issue with them has nothing to do with us! I also met nicer Royal Knights before. To be honest, they all were nicer once they came back into their senses and realized Yggdrasil was manipulating them all.

S!Agumon: Except Duftmon, screw that guy.

Masaru: Yeah, except that one.

Tagiru glances at Takato, squinting his eyes.

Tagiru: You attacked us. Because you thought we were the bullies!

Daisuke: But he was brainwashed, Tagiru! That shouldn't count!

Takato: Y-Yeah, that shouldn't count at all!

Takuya: Daisuke's defending Takato because he does not want his pupil to get hurt huh...

Daisuke: No way! It's because in this case this shouldn't count!!

Taichi: Wait, mini-me has it too, Omegamon?

r!Taichi: Yup, but it doesn't feel like a Royal Knight either...? But Agumon and the others were involved in an ancient war before.

Takuya: Wow, another person whose digimon partner was involved in an ancient war?? Cool!! Was it against Lucemon too?

r!Taichi: Uh... I don't think we ever met a Lucemon, but there was so many things happening at the moment I might have forgotten already...?

Daisuke/Takuya/Takato/Tagiru: Wow, that's cool!! [they're all impressed]

Masaru: Those new kids are different from us...

Taichi: Don't talk like if you were that old... It makes me remember I'm old 💧

[leader-with-no-goggles]

Starter for twotameredgaomon

‘’Heh, these guys are nothing!’’ 

A grim smirk had formed upon his features. His olive-green orbs scanning his surroundings. He was outnumbered by Fugamon and Shamamon.  ‘’A bunch of rookies ain’t gonna be enough to stop me, HAAAH!!!’’ 

His balled up fist coming in contact with a nearby Shamamon, his fist now growing a bright orange.  His features now a more serious and angry expression,  “IS THAT ALL YOU GOT!?’’ 

BAM! POW! His right fist coming in contact with a Fugamon, his left fist coming in contact with a Shamamon right after.  ‘’Agumon, now!’’  ‘’Baby flame!’’ 

The reptile spewing flame onto the nearby Fugamon and Shamamon. ‘’Heh, nice one!’’ The amount of digimon showing up seemed nearly endless but that wouldn’t stop them, the ultimate team, from giving up.  ‘’Man, ain’t there anyone stronger?!--’’ The brunette shouted, before being abruptly interrupted by an unexpected Digimon. And that was Apemon. The large ape-like Digimon roaring before it’s fist came down at both the brunette and his reptile Digimon.  “ALRIGHT!!!!!!’’ The smirk had returned upon the arriving fist of Apemon, and in that instant, the clashing of fists ensued between him and Apemon.  @twotameredgaomon

[bossarmadimon]

What your favorite digimon ship says about you

(with apologies to @doubleca5t )

Taito: You think the anime has only gone downhill since Adventure.

Takouji: If you’d been born a few years earlier, you’d probably have been shipping Taichi and Yamato.

Tomato: If you’d been born a few years earlier, you’d probably have been shipping Takuya and Kouji.

Kiriki: If you’d been born a few years earlier, you’d probably have been shipping Thomas and Masaru.

Tagiyuu (Tagiru/Yuu): If you’d been born a few years earlier, you’d probably have been shipping Kiriha and Taiki.

Taiora: You absolutely refuse to acknowledge the epilogue.

Sorato: You appreciate the canon validation, but you absolutely refuse to acknowledge the epilogue anyway.

Joumi: You want to be stepped on by Mimi Tachikawa.

Koumi: Your ideal date involves confusing the hell out of each others.

Mira: Your favorite relationship dynamic is butch/femme.

Vamdemon/Piedmon: Your favorite relationship dynamic is a RuPaul’s Drag Race catfight.

Yamato/Gabumon: Your favorite relationship dynamic is powerbottom/service top.

Thomas/Gaomon: This is exactly the same joke as Gabumon/Yamato, but even more so.

Miyako/Hawkmon: This is exactly the same joke as Gabumon/Yamato, but you're heterosexual.

Wizartail: Your favorite relationship dynamic is the plot of the live-action Casper movie.

Mimato: You appreciate the fact having to work with nothing at all means you’re unlikely to contradict their canon interactions.

Joushirou: You’re just here for some disaster bisexuals.

Ogremon/Leomon: You’re just here for some baras.

Miyaora: You’re just here for some tomboys.

Jouyako: You’re just here for some meganes.

Ioyako: You just wanted good things for Iori, and really, who wouldn’t?

Taisuke: You ideal date involves getting your sempai to notice you.

Jouri: Your interest in sempai/kohai is outweighed only by your overwhelming love of height differences.

Miyami: Your ideal high school romance is nerd/prep.

Kouyako: Your ideal high school romance is nerd/nerd.

Yamasuke: Your ideal high school romance is band kid/jock.

Kenyako: Your ideal high school romance is marrying straight out of high school… oh, and you absolutely refuse to acknowledge the epilogue anyway.

Daiken: You are a firm believer in dating your best friend.

Daikeru: You are a firm believer in resolving love triangles by ignoring the axis.

Daiyako:You’re always a sucker for a dumbass in love.

Daiori: You’re always a sucker for an unsuspecting bystander having to deal with a dumbass in love.

Hikeyako: Your favorite relationship dynamic is two women tired of dealing with one dumbass in love’s bullshit.

Mimori: This is exactly the same joke as Mimato, except even more so.

Daikari: You are heterosexual.

Takari: You are heterosexual and you absolutely refuse to acknowledge the epilogue.

Angemon/Angewomon: You are extremely heterosexual.

RenaLeo: You are extremely heterosexual and you are a furry.

RenaFlame: Your interest in hetero furry ships is outweighed only by your interest in twinks.

Veetail: You are a furry, and you don’t mind being weird about it.

Mukeni: You just wanna fuck villains, and really, who wouldn’t?

Jurato: You are a firm believer in keeping things canon and keeping things wholesome.

Jenkato: You are a firm believer in keeping things gay and keeping it to the main characters only.

Patatail: This is exactly the same joke as Jurato, but you’re also a furry.

Juri/Leomon: You’re always a sucker for breaking the cutie.

Jenruki:You’re always a sucker for slow burn.

Rukato: You are a firm believer in 👏 men 👏 getting 👏 pegged

Takazu: Your addiction to dumbasses in love got so bad that one day you went “Hey, you know what’s even better than a dumbass in love? Two dumbasses in love.”.

Ryuki (Ryou/Ruki): Your favorite relationship dynamic is Prom Queen/Prom King.

Renamon/Rika: you either want a girlfriend who can bridal carry you, or you want to bridal carry your girlfriend.

RenaGuil: Your ideal high school romance is jock/dumbass.

ImpRena: Your ideal high school romance is jock/goth.

ImpTerrier: Your ideal high school romance is goth/theater kid.

ImpCulu: Your ideal high school romance is goth/dumbass.

Ryokazu: You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of hero worship.

Hirota: You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of accidentally kissing.

Takumi: This is exactly the same joke as Daikari, but even more so, and with some actual canon validation.

Kouzumi: Your interest in heterosexual pairings is outweighed only by your crippling addiction to edgy boys who have trouble talking about their feelings.

Junzoumi: You just wanted good things for Junpei, and really, who wouldn’t?

KouKou: You’re always a sucker for incest.

Tomoya: You want to fuck brother figures.

RanaKaze: You’re just here for some monster girls.

LordKnightmon/Dynasmon: You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of high camp.

Yohmas: You can’t resist the draw of shipping the good-looking ones together.

Yosaru (Yoshino/Masaru): Your interest in bitter rivalries is ouweighed only by your love of bickering married couples.

Daitsuma: You want to fuck father figures.

Ikushino: You want to fuck mother figures.

DaiLeo (Daimon/BanchouLeomon): Your ideal date involves going to the gym and spotting each others.

Meguki (Megumi/Miki):You’re always a sucker for characters who are in desperate need of more screen time.

Thoka (Thomas/Chika): Your favorite relationship dynamic is a third grader telling their teacher they’re gonna marry them when they get older.

Ikuka: You’re always a sucker for reformed bad boys.

Dairata (Daimon/Kurata): You’re always a sucker for a character who starts off as a complete asshole and then gets much, much worse.

Akaki: Your favorite relationship dynamic is bickering married couples.

Taiyuu: Your favorite relationship dynamic is enemies to lovers.

Taikirou (Taiki/Zenjirou): You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of one-sided rivalries.

Neiki (Nene/Taiki): You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of stalking.

Zenjine: Your ideal date involves walking in on each others.

Kirine: You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of deep-seated mistrust.

Kirijirou: Your favorite high school romance is jock/jock.

Zenjiri: You believe there is nothing stronger than the bond of two people who are sick of one man’s bullshit.

LilySting: If you’d been born a whole generation earlier, you’d probrably be shipping Patamon and Tailmon.

BallisShout: You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of “Guy Love”.

BeelMerva: Nothing gets you on board faster than characters who have no idea where they are going with this.

Aigiru (Airu/Tagiru): You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of bullying.

Tagiki (Tagiru/Taiki): If you’d been born a whole generation earlier, you’d probrably be shipping Taichi and Daisuke.

Harai (Haru/Ai): If you’d been born a whole generation earlier, you’d probrably be shipping Juri and Takato.

ToraEri: Your favorite relationship dynamic is feuding youtubers with UST.

Eriru (Eri/Haru): You either want a girlfriend that could kick your ass, or you want to be a girlfriend who kicks her boyfriend’s ass.

ToraHaru: Your ideal date is livestreaming together.

Harujin: You’re always a sucker for shippers on deck.

Maigo (Maki/Daigo): You would’ve shipped Juri/Leomon, but you thought Juri didn’t get broken hard enough.

Meimi (Meiko/Mimi): Your favorite relationship dynamic is cinnamon roll/sinnamon roll.

Ryou/Milleniumon: You are a firm believer in the inherent eroticism of trying to kill each others.