#martius marlon

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Hello! I know I am WAY out of touch with current news, but I am reading your translation of the Venomania novel, and there is one part that is giving me slight troubles. It is the interactions between Martius and his brother Janus, when Yufina visits the Beelezian court. I have a hard time understanding how their brotherly relationship works, or rather what kind of emotions Mothy tried to convey, what kind of power dynamic the two are supposed to have.

I'm sure I wrote it in a way that's a little obtuse (I suspect there might also be some politeness level stuff that went over my head while translating it--it's another work that could use some revision, I'm sure), but to try and explain in my own words:

This scene is meant to illustrate that Martius is a very weak ruler for Marlon, as he has no spine. Janus is the crown prince--his older brother, as well as next in line as Beelzenia's emperor. As such, Martius is acting extremely servile in his compliments, toadying up to him, despite the fact that it's clear Janus has little respect for him as a ruler in his own right. Shortly after their exchange, Martius' other siblings show up and similarly insult him without any backtalk from him to defend himself.

Yufina is concerned that her marriage to Martius--which was done to make an alliance with Beelzenia for their military aid--will ultimately result in Marlon being inducted into the Beelzenian empire, and lose their independence. This is contextualizing her affair with Karchess, who has a spine of steel.

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Maylis: Compliment her! Martius: You have eyes. Yufina: Thanks.

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Martius Beelzenia Marlon – Minase Kou Shouta Freezis – Tsukuyomi Shouta Aile Freezis – Tsukuyomi Ai Yuzette Ora – Yuzuki Yukari Mira Yarera Marlon – Tohoku Zunko Talos “Sickle” – Yohioloid Marie Annette – Kanon Mayu (Bloodstained Switch) – MAYU Carol Shields – CUL Juno Beelzenia – Galaco

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Karchess Crim ・ Yufina Marlon ・ Martius Beelzenia ・ Maylis Beelzenia

Karchess Crim

A Count of the Kingdom of Marlon. Involved in a consensual three-way relationship with Yufina and Martius, Karchess nonetheless decided to keep their affair private from the Marlon public, not wanting to impugn on the royals’ honour. Karchess was later asked by “Sateriasis” to search for “Cherubim”.

Yufina Marlon

The Queen of the Kingdom of Marlon. Despite being Martius’s wife, she also loved Karchess, and the two of them often teased Martius on his unambitious nature. During a visit to Martius’s homeland, Yufina witnessed Maylis’s bizarre personality changes and came to fear her as a result.

Martius Beelzenia

The Marlon King. A gentle man, he consented to Yufina’s relationship with Karchess and found himself falling for the Count as well, admiring his headstrong personality. When Karchess began acting cold towards him and Yufina, Martius began to doubt himself and his inability to protect his loved ones.

Maylis Beelzenia

The Third Princess of the Beelzenian Empire. Due to her rebellious nature, Maylis was often at odds with her siblings, despising their pompousness. Her scorn was augmented by the Angel residing in the golden ring given to her on her 13th birthday, and she often fought for control over her own body.

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Thank you for your answer! Indeed, I didn't perceive very well the "insults" of Janus towards Martius, which is why I thought of the scene as a little strange (for Aprilis things are much more obvious)

Two more questions. 1) There is a mention of Martius always making sure to "not hurt" Yufina when he touches her. What do you actually mean by this? I have seen people presenting it under two different lights, some saying this is just meant to say he is a kind and not forceful person when it comes to physical contact ; other interpreting it as Martius being carefuly not to hurt her with his body weight, due to him being obese.

I personally see much more the first option, and believe the second one might be a extrapolation, but that's just me. It is just that while Martius and his siblings are described as large, fat and pig-like, I didn't see anything insisting on his body being so enormous it would actually harm Yufina. But at the same time, Japanese media is known to have some pretty... interesting views and perceptions of fat people so maybe that's what Mothy meant

And my second question (I know I am obsessing over little details, but they're always the thing that fascinate me with Mothy's work, and the more I'll get down the novel I'll probably have others just as silly questions). There is a line in the translation, after Martius shows his spinelessness, about Janus grinning (disdainfully I guess) to his brother and patting his belly which is "not to be outdone" by Martius' own gut. I had read somewhere (I guess it was more of a headcanon of someone, but I still think of it as an interesting interpretation) that this could be read as Janus not just imposing his superiority by his royal position and his status of older brother, but also by his largeness which, by outdoing Martius' own, shows him as more "powerful" or "important" than the Marlon king, in some sort of bizarre brotherly rivality "in the flesh", quite literaly. Is it that someone just massively over-interpreted this little line merely meant by Mothy to point out Janus was fat, or is there something to it that can be found in the original Japanese text?

To address things in order:

1)Yeah, in this case it's probably more the way he said things that was the insult, and not the words themselves. I've been meaning to go back and revise my older translations specifically to clean up scenes like this one, but I've struggled to maintain my focus when doing so. I've stalled halfway through revising Cloture at the moment.

2)At the risk of sounding indelicate, my interpretation of that part was that Yufina "likes it rough", as it were, and Martius is too kind to...behave...that way. Or at the very least, he's too gentle to put any passion into the "romantic" parts of their marriage. I don't think it's about his physical girth--again, the primary criticism of Martius in this scene is not that he's fat (though that is being criticized, of course), but that he's not manly enough for her. She views his kindness and gentleness as an extension of him being weak and servile.

3)The negative emphasis on them being fat in particular I view as being more of a comment on how Yufina sees them, as this scene is very strongly tied to her POV--she despises the Beelzenian royalty as being corrupt, overindulgent, and lazy, taking advantage of their vassal territories, and sees their bodies as a physical representation of that.

4) It's just a bit of narrative flourish explaining that Martius is roughly the same size as his brother (it's Martius' size it's commenting on, not Janus--Janus is already established as fat in an earlier line). That one I might just go and change now, if it's giving people the implication that they're actively competing to see who has the bigger gut. They're not.

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Chapter Index

(unposted chapters and titles subject to change at any moment)

Act 0: Original Virtue

1. Omnia Vincit Amor (Love Conquers All)

2. Deus Ex Machina (A God from a Machine)

3. Virtus Junxit, Mors Non Separabit (That Which Virtue Unites, Let Not Death Separate)

4. Perge Sequar (Advance, I Follow)

5. Finis Vitae, Sed Non Amoris (The End of Life, but Not of Love)

6. Rerum Cognoscere Causas (To Learn the Causes of Things)

Act 1: Castitas

7. Cherubim: Rice Lily

8. Irina Clockworker: Jasmine

9. Rajih Assad: Lotus

10. Earl Ferdinand: White Rose

11. Karchess Crim: Azalea

12. Martius Marlon: Red Camellia

13. Sateriasis Venomania: Aster Tataricus

Act 2: Temperantia

14. Digestif – Blood Grave

15. Hors d'Oeuvre – Bruschetta with Salted Baemu

16. Soup – Graveyard Fruit Borscht

17. Poisson – Aotakoyaki

18. Sorbet – Plateau Sherbet

19. Viande – Steak of XXXX

20. Dessert – Brioche à Tête

21. Aperitif – Lunar Udonge

Act 3: Humilitas

22. Praefacio of Blue

23. Handbeat Clocktower

24. Blink

25. Praeludium of Red

26. Daughter of White

27. Millennium Lullaby

28. Wiegenlied of Green

29. Regret Message

30. Twiright Prank

31. Cloture of Yellow

32. Servant of Evil

33. Daughter of Evil

Act 4: Industria

34. Front-Page Headline; The New Mayor of a Colourful Town

35. Political Events; Gift-Giving with Santa Claus

36. Business and Finance; Marquis Blankenheim’s New Deal

37. Featured Article; Poison, Cure, and the Sleeping Beauty

38. Weather Forecast; A Case of Divine Retribution?

39. Health and Medicine; Miraculous Hourai Elixir

40. Breaking News; Justice Never Sleeps

41. Entertainment; Cirque de Lune

Act 4.4: Iustitia

42. “Big Brother” Becomes President

43. The First “Heist”

44. Search for “Seventh, Magician”

45. The New “Pere Noel”

46. “Two-Faced” Double Agent

47. Escape of the “Shadow”, Blossom

48. To Merrigod Plateau, and “Sixth Venom”

49. Reunion, and the “Angel of Patience”

50. Gods and Demons, and “Her” Final Moments

51. The Hellish Yard, and “Malice”

Act 5: Humanitas

52. The Song of the Twin Needles

53. Intro; The Fire

54. Verse; Equal Exchange

55. Pre-Chorus; Their Reunion

56. Chorus; Public Unrest

57. Bridge; His Visit

58. Outro; Past Life

59. Elision; Her Fate

60. The Song of the Monk

61. The Song of the Cherry Blossom Princess

62. The Song of the Fox’s Wedding

63. The Song of Enbizaka

Act 6: Patientia

64. Episode 0; Beginning of the End

65. Episode 1; The Girl Embraces Her Dream

66. Episode 2; Meeting Grandmother

67. Episode 3; Playing in the Forest

68. Episode 4; Farewell My Friend

69. Episode 5; Their Relationship Chills

70. Episode 6; A Sinking Feeling

71. Episode 7; Your Father is Here

72. Episode 8; Bitter Sweets

73. Episode 9; Garden of Eden

74. Episode 10; The Court’s Beginning

75. Episode ZERO; End of the Beginning

Act 6.6: Caritas

76. 0th Memory; Mirror Image

77. 1st Memory; Justice

78. 2nd Memory; Forest

79. 3rd Memory; Seasons

80. 4th Memory; Delivery

81. 5th Memory; Shadows

82. 6th Memory; Master

83. 7th Memory; God

84. Lost Memory; If Only…

Act 6.6.6: The Four Last Things

85. Seven Blessings and Salvation

86. Astra Inclinant: Re_Load Act 6.6.6

87. Search for HER Vessels

88. His Sister Sets Out

89. Master of the Graveyard

90. The Villains of History

91. BLACKBOX

92. Not Her

93. Master of the Court

94. A Capricious Farce

95. Reunion

96. The Pure Evil

97. MotHER

98. Re_Birthday

99. Truth

100. Master of the Hellish and Heavenly Yard

101. Astra Inclinant: End of Act 6.6.6

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EC characters whose faces we only see in the musicals

Yufina Marlon, Martius Beelzenia, Carol Shields, Classke Glassred, Witnis Truth, and Tette Cetera

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Theoretical Vocaloid reps for EC characters

uh yeah I’ve got a lot of free time

Leon

Leuno Dino

Witnis Truth

Ron Grapple

Leonhart Avadonia

Lola

Lolan Eve

Miriam

Mirigan Adi

Mariam Futapie

Meiko

Lich Arklow

Eater Sabella

Meta Salmhofer

Jupitaire Beelzenia

Maylis Beelzenia

Tetippea Conchita

Banica Conchita

Germaine Avadonia

Mayrana Blossom

Mei Miroku

Mei’s father

The Master of the Graveyard

Kaito

Adam Moonlit

Karchess Crim

Carlos Marlon

Charon Marlon

Cult Marlon

Kirk Marlon

Joseph

Ildebrando

Kyle Marlon

Arkatoir Marlon

Kaspar Blankenheim

Kaidor Blankenheim

Bruno Marlon

Karl Blankenheim

Kai Miroku

Perrié Cutie Marlon

Penry Marlon

Gallerian Marlon

Gandalf Marlon

Gear

Adam

Sweet Ann

Annlee Sweets

Anne Swee

Miku

Michael Arklow

Held Yggdra

Eve Zvezda

Maria Moonlit

Raisia Netsuma

Mikulia Greeonio

Hakua Netsuma

Haru Netsuma

Mikulia Calgaround

Platonic

Michaela

Clarith

Ayn

Margaret

Jahime Hatsune

Margarita Felix

Chansaux

Marx Felix

Miku Miroku

The Master of the Court

Michelle Marlon

Shiro Netsuma

Eve

Rin

Levia Barisol

Mysterious Rin 

Gretel

Abel

Neruneru Nerune

Arte

Rindo Blum

Riliane Lucifen d’Autriche

Ney Marlon

Riliane Roses

Rin Chan

Rin Miroku

Lilith “Waiter” Balledold”

Sarvant

Rin

Len

Behemo Barisol

Hänsel

Vey Lucif

Cain

Pollo

Lucifenia I

Allen Lucifen d’Autriche

Arth Lucifen d’Autriche

Lemy Abelard

Ayn Anchor

Kokutan-douji

Inukichi

Ren Sudou

Feng Li

Sarvant

Punishment

Prima

Priema Soap

Prim Rogzé

Gakupo

Cherubim Venomania

Sateriasis Venomania

Gast Venom

Gaou Octo

Nobunaga Hatsune

Gatt Coulomb

Gakusha Octo

Anan Octo

Gato Octo

Giyara

Gammon Octo

Nyoze ”Shakusan” Octo

Luka

Rahab Barisol

Elluka Chirclatia

Lukana Octo

Elluka Clockworker

Kayo Sudou

Ma

Hel Jaakko

Gumi

Guumiria Matsumoto

Gumina Glassred

Gilbert Calgaround

Meogour Glassred

Gumillia

Yvette Yakobi

Sarah Octo

Gusuma Yarera

Nemesis Sudou

Sonika

Duchess Glassred

Sonika Sonic

Classke Glassred

Mira Yarera

Narcissus Kissos

Miki

Milky Eights

Mickina Olliba

Milkicent Marlon

Mikina Sfarz

Yuki

Yuki Kaina

Yukina Freezis

Aai Freezis

Kiyoteru

Seth Twright

Kiril Clockworker

Pale Noël

Keel Freezis

Loki Freezis

Bindi Freezis

Big Al

Vlad Tabelsh

Marquis Ferdinand

Muzuri Conchita

Xenos Jaakko

Beelzenia Emperor

Ton Corpa

Tonio

Ilotte Venomania

Tasute Conchita

Presi Rogzé

Plus Rogzé

Puerick Rogzé

Tony Ausdin

Bogaerts

Lily

Ly Li

Irta Li

Lilien Turner

Liliane Mouchet

Gaston Mouchet

VY1

Oyuka Musupi

Ryouto

Mikulia’s son

Kiji Yarera

Iroha

Irina Clockworker

Piko

Tae Conchita

Oruhari

Qyoichi

YV2

Aybee Cee

Zusco

Watchman

Zusco Jr.

Eikichi Akagi

Mew

Mewtant Lusha

Tone Rion

Rio Neja

Oliver

Asan

Dylan

Cul

Carol Shields

Yukari

Yuzette “Isabel Ismael” Ora

Bruno

Lionel Corpa

Bruno

Bruno Zero

Hanma Balledold

Lapis

Lazuli Blue

Galaco

Juno Beelzenia

Mayu

Blood-stained Mayu

Avanna

Josephine Francois

Kyo

Salem Danber

Yegor Asayev

Wil

Will Jaakko

Yarera

Willus Zorach

Yarera III

Willus’ grandfather

Yuu

Yocaski Ausdin

Daniel Ausdin

Yohioloid

Sickle Talos

Earl Ferdinand

Shalgham

Maika

Eleanor

Merli

Sanan Noi

Macne

Chelsea

Eugen

Minage

Anon

Marina Lucif

Kanon

Marie Anette

Zunko

Barbara

Earl Felix

Thorny Elphen

Brigitta

Ling

Lamia Asayev

Sachiko

Kinouna

Arsloid

Janus Beelzenia

Duke Sfarz

Mikhail Asayev

Ruby

Phoebe Aymieux

Dex

Genesia

Scherzer

Daina

Gerda

Fukase

Rajih Assad

Duke Oruhari

Xingchen

Luna Hazuki

Cyber Songman

Burglar Donald

George Ausdin

Hob Homer

Longya

Gilles Dorie

Sommy Hedgehog

Minis Stoup

Midas Touch

Matcha

Alma

Coachman

Jorm Zusco

Moke

Banica’s son

Hardy - White

Chris

Duke Donald

Corpa

Ken

Nob Nicole

Uibee Aoi

Kurookina

Shouta

Shaw Freezis

Dashaw Freezis

Ai

Aile Freezis

Maki

Nylpho Venomania

Kou

Phaser

Martius Beelzenia

Itako

Clarith’s Mother

Akikoloid

Rita Flohn

Anri Rune

Aprilis Beelzenia

Lui

Denis

Egmont

Lorra

Polina Marchef

Chuchu

Kagura Octo

Yuecheng

Marc

Nagare Sudou

Teto

Tette Cetera

Chartette Langley

Smith Langley

Saruteito Lang

Yufu

Yufina Marlon

Sekka Le Corbusier

Ruko

Clive

Hoor

Matsudappoiyo

York Le Corbusier

Heaven Jaakko

Ritsu

Marks Donald

The Fifth Pierrot

Defoko

Nagisa Coulomb

Akane

Febria Beelzenia

Tei

Barbara Barba

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The Lunacy of Duke Venomania: Everlasting True Love

Imura Hyaku Nozomi as Martius Marlon

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The Lunacy of Duke Venomania: Everlasting True Love

Imura Hyaku Nozomi as Martius Marlon

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Lust Arc Nobility Characters

Martius Marlon, Jupitaire Beelzenia, Janus Beelzenia, Febria Beelzenia, Aprilis Beelzenia, Tae Conchita, and Gilbert Calgaround

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Some guys from the Lust, Gluttony, and Pride arcs

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The Lunacy of Duke Venomania: Everlasting True Love Cast Twitters

Cherubim “Sateriasis” Venomania: https://twitter.com/murata37makoto

Gumina Glassred: https://twitter.com/andou_e_

Lukana Octo: https://twitter.com/feixue625

Mikulia Greeonio: https://twitter.com/chacopumpkin

Maylis Beelzania: https://twitter.com/ALiCE_HiMECORiN

Yufina Marlon: https://twitter.com/benisora1145

Karchess Crim: https://twitter.com/valkyrjagoof

Irina Clockworker: https://twitter.com/pekori_o00

Elluka Clockworker: https://twitter.com/ry0uk0_h

Carol Shields: https://twitter.com/yukiha_m0x0m

Tae Conchita: https://twitter.com/Ochika_Tkg

Cherubim: https://twitter.com/H1R666

Sateriasis Venomania: https://twitter.com/inu_inu_1_1

Young Gumina: https://twitter.com/ryooooune

Tette Cetra: https://twitter.com/naruho_on_stage

Martius Marlon: https://twitter.com/iimaruhyakki

Mrs. Greeonio: https://twitter.com/sekiri777

The Guard: https://twitter.com/chan_gotty

Photographer: https://twitter.com/mother_kanata

Ensemble: https://twitter.com/mizune005 https://twitter.com/kojimeme https://twitter.com/suzumushi_sh https://twitter.com/akiramiyazaki07