#marksmanship

[nine-is-not-a-ten]

the crows' olympic sports

kaz: javelin throw (would use his cane)

inej: gymnastics (she'd be silent & graceful and 100% mysterious)

wylan: fucking shotput (yeet that bitch)

jesper: marksmanship (obviously)

matthias: wrestling (PURE MUSCLE BOIIII)

nina: weightlifting (she'd be this unsuspecting competitor and then WHAM GOLD MEDAL)

[totallynotsilversora]

Hey nerds guess who made another thread about Vash's shooting skills during the finale of Trigun Stampede?

This nerd right here!

(( AGAIN! ))

Because Studio Orange has been driving me insane with how great Vash is as a gunman not just cinematically but realistically! I am NOT getting over this for a while my friends.

Of course, if you hadn't watched the finale yet and want to avoid spoilers, just know this post is gonna be filled with them and if you'd like to see my first analysis on Vash the Pro Gunslinger you can check it out here on tumblr and here on twitter before reading through this one!

Speaking of the bird, this post is also on twitter below:

Oh but wait, don't have one? No worries! I've retyped everything below so you don't have to look at the bird app if you don't want to!

All posts mention guns and shooting because otherwise this analysis would not work at all.

NOW LET'S ROLL!

First off, again, I’m going based on what I remembered from shooting air rifles & other research I’ve gained over the years! Second, I’m not an OG Trigun fan, so do take this thread with a grain of salt!

With that, let’s dive into THEE fight scene:

So right off the bat we’re getting Vash’s “smooth criminal” shot! Notice how he’s lining up his body sideways with his pistol vs forward like in the past. That’s exactly how you’re supposed to shoot one handed: feet shoulder width apart and aligned w/ the gun.

Normally you’d want both feet planted on the ground when firing but since Vash HAS to stay on the move to avoid getting hit AND is being a cocky little shit to his brother, he lets himself lean forward to fire and use that kick back to gently guide him into his next step.

Again, you NEVER fight what’s considered natural movement with a gun! You WILL get hurt! If you want to aim properly you NEED to be relaxed and composed. Vash isn’t fighting against the force of his gun, he follows it with the confidence and poise of a dancer on stage.

And speaking of dancing just look at how Vash makes Knives dance over puddles! Vash has impeccable aim yet he deliberately chooses to shoot in areas that could stun or stumble Knives, knowing he could block the shots, and distract him as he goes behind the corner.

Remember how I said lining up sideways is how you shoot properly? Here he’s firing straight forward using the corner as his shield. Had he not been holding a ticking bomb in his hand he would probably rest the gun on his other hand like he normally does on the rock jutting out.

The second he fired his last shot he dips down to reload and LOOK AT THAT!!

He is practicing proper trigger discipline again!!

You do NOT keep your finger on the trigger when loading in order to prevent misfire. That is BASIC SHOOTING SAFETY!!

And he does this throughout the fight!

When he turns away from Knives to make his way to the corner he lets go of the trigger before he turns back around to fire at him!

He can only hold 8 bullets in that gun and he will make each one count!

He can NOT afford to misfire.

Why??

Because that bullet he loaded was going STRAIGHT FOR KNIVES! Vash is NOT messing around! At this angle it looks like he aimed and could’ve hit Knives' NECK which would be super hard to dodge close range. Knives would have to bend backwards like he did here to dodge.

Shout out to everyone at Orange for the incredible work put into Vash and his shooting! There’s so much care into this show I can’t wait to see more!

Bonus: while we’re here, let’s get into Vash’s stellar reloads starting with this one (my absolute favorite) :

Remember how I said Vash was being a cocky little shit to Knives earlier?

Yeah this is it at it’s peak.

Faced forward, standing still til the last second, and very slowly reloading so Knives hears all 8 clicks before flying out the window.

This is just being mean lol XD

It's because we KNOW he can reload fast! The gif below might be faster by half a second but it's still RIDICULOUS compared to the first one:

Hell, he’s put individual bullets in the chamber midair and slammed a container of them in the SAME FLIGHT! MIDAIR!!!

He did NOT have to mess with Knives like that! Dude's flexin' hard.

In any case, I can’t recommend this show enough! The amount of work and detail put into not just Vash’s skills as a marksman but the acting and storytelling - everything is superb!! What an amazing experience!

Thanks again Studio Orange and Nightow! See you again, soon!

[imagine-creative]

“Message to Adrien”

Sonny uses a bat and will let you off with a warning

Maverick- not so much 🥴

[steelbluehome]

[blackswaneuroparedux]

百步穿杨

- Yang Youji

Shoot an arrow through a willow leaf a hundred steps away.

This chengyu describes an excellent marksman, equivalent to calling them a “deadeye.” Records suggest that during the Warring States period (475-221 BCE), a man named Yang Youji was challenged by King Zhuang of Chu to shoot a dragonfly without killing it, which he managed by shooting an arrow through its left wing. Yang, it was said, could shoot a willow leaf from a hundred paces away without fail. Yang became famous for his martial arts skills, and this chengyu was born.

[kaisermaschine]

[jackedjacket]

Yes, because you're SUPPOSED to shoot with both eyes open. If you close one eye, that gets rid of your depth perception and you're more likely to miss

[ga1axyranger]

Okay… so like this..? -Shoots a revolver at a target’s bullseye perfectly first try-

"Yeah. Exactly. Yer'll be a natural in no time! Keep it up n' ya MIGHT just MIGHT be as good as me someday."

[caveman1776]

I was just laying down some freedom seeds

[worldoftransmogs]

I saw this hood on the trading post I brought it and the rest is history.

"Silent Marksman"

[historyofguns]

The article, authored by Peter Suciu, details a specialized firearms training event at Gunsite Academy, featuring world champion shooter Rob Leatham. The Gunsite Performance Pistol Symposium, held at Gunsite's extensive Paulden, Arizona facility, offers a three-day course for experienced handgun users. Participants will benefit from Leatham's expertise in speed and accuracy, backed by his 24 USPSA National and seven IPSC World Championships. The symposium is guided by proficient instructors, including Gunsite Rangemasters Lew Gosnell and Randy Watt, both with substantial competitive and law enforcement experience. The event emphasizes advanced firearm handling techniques, with prerequisites ensuring attendees possess significant prior expertise. Gunsite Academy, founded by Jeff Cooper in 1976, maintains its status as a leading institute in defensive firearms training. The course promises to elevate participants' skills through rigorous, performance-building drills, underscoring the importance of speed, accuracy, and cognitive engagement in advanced shooting practices.

[totallynotsilversora]

Can we appreciate and analyze how impeccable Vash’s skills as a marksman is bc I hadn't noticed anyone talk about it in length and this gif literally drives me insane:

Content warning: mentions guns / gun and shooting below the cut because otherwise this analysis would be moot.

This is coming from someone who used to only shoot air rifles for sport like how you'd see it in the Olympics with paper targets!

Ok so as I’ve said I've shot guns before (not at anyone ya sickos) and believe me when I say that Vash has such a good steady aim his arm doesn’t even bend when he moves it - he moves it from the shoulder/ his waist to keep that arm straight and relaxed as possible, which is crazy because that gun looks like a BRICK made of solid metal. There's no way that thing is light, there's definitely some weight to it, but the way he moves it is smoother than most people I've seen lift a credit card.

Now it’s not unusual in sport to have at least some tiny weight on the end of the barrel to keep it steady and act as a counterbalance but that’s like Olympics, not a fight. Vash may be superhuman but I don’t think carrying a cross like the Punisher would make fighting any easier, so it’s safe to say holding a decently heavy chunk of metal filled with lead isn’t easy either (I’m pretty sure the humans we’ve seen so far held their guns with two hands either due to weight or stability and they're not so smooth anyways).

So him tracking someone with a gun like that in only ONE HAND is kind of impressive even at that close range bc it doesn't matter how many times you hit your mark, your barrel would NOT be as steady as Vash in that gif unless you're this gif of Kobeni from CSM:

Even that scene in episode 3 when Vash is aiming at Knives (which I can’t find a good gif of) he doesn’t move the barrel at ALL until he has to lift it and follow Knives’ head. No shaking, no wobble, not even the SLIGHTEST figure 8 you’d normally get when you aim down a barrel - it’s a smooth turn of his wrists following Knives’ head up.

And that’s all from EXPERIENCE. Look at the two gifs below:

You can literally see how much he’s improved since he lost his arm - he’s expectantly super wobbly compared to the last gif in episode 2. He notably doesn’t “force” the gun to stay in one spot and aim where it needs to be - he raises it then let’s it “settle” on where he’s aiming to shoot before firing. A good shooter knows how to aim and take the shot before they lose the target w/o moving (called “following through”), but a great marksman knows that when it comes to shooting you should never fight against the body’s natural tendencies to move the way it wants to even when you’re aiming at something because you’re less likely to wobble or move when your body is relaxed and comfortable. Moving it away from that position will cause you to quiver and inevitably try to return to that same comfortable position against your will. That’s not just something you pick up on naturally - you have to LEARN that shit.

Which means Vash literally took the time to either completely unlearn every single one of his body’s natural ticks in order to shoot like a pro OR he learned how to work along with each one so his aim was always on point. Either way, it took him 150 years of practice to reach that level and it definitely paid off for him I think!

There’s a bunch of other ticks I noticed, too, like him keeping his trigger finger on the side of the gun if he’s not aiming to shoot anything in that moment but still has the gun in his hand so he doesn't accidentally misfire:

Or how he never keeps one eye closed bc the twitching WILL make you shake and lose focus so he always keeps both eyes open when aiming so he sees better:

But this post is long enough as is and I think we all get the idea that he’s that fricking good at using a gun.

TL;DR Studio Orange did a fantastic job convincing me that Vash is an INSANELY GOOD marksman and this is coming from someone who used to shoot air rifles for sport and had an incredible coach who would also agree with me and say this guy’s aim is surreal if he ever watched this show. Also his reload speed is absolutely demonic too like what the actual hell-

EDIT: added that scene from episode 3 just to show you guys what I meant (sorry it's low quality but you get it!!! Also the fact he's keeping his finger on the trigger bc he knows how unpredictable Knives is and could strike him down at any moment just shows how confident he is at keeping his hand steady bc if he were shaking he would DEFINITELY have misfired by now).

[imagine-creative]

Sharp shooter Maverick ❤️

[gritandfiction]

So I do marksmanship as an actual sport (not archery, not trap/skeet, but the rifle and pistol) and I had to calculate a problem in AP Physics 1 that was asking about velocity and bullet drop, and the problem, it mentioned that the bullet was 0.02 meters vertically beneath it’s aim point after traveling 50 meters horizontally.

So I turned to my teacher, and I had to ask, “Did they miss, or is this bullet drop?”

I simply could not fathom that no, that didn’t mean the marksman missed. The answer was, in fact, bullet drop.

And so I thought about it longer and said, “I’m actually pretty sure I can get you the equation for both bullet drop and bullet velocity.”

“gritandfiction, you’re making this too hard. It’s just a simple physics problem.”

Ha! But little does she know

Physics is never simple

[realityreaperr]

Marksmanship?

Hey ya’ll, recently I’ve been thinking of signing my son up for a marksmanship class. He’s always lurking behind corners in our house and sniping his older brother with nerf bullets. I’d say for a kid he has pretty good aim! I want to support his hobbies but recently it’s gotten more concerning. We’ll be walking down the street and he’ll hit and kill birds on lamp posts with a single rock… Is there anything in the marksman’s book that says something like “thou shall not kill for cruelty?” Idk. Thanks