#marisol * / about .

[revvetha]

[shows up at your door at 2AM] hey can we go through that last D&D session scene by scene and discuss the symbolism and the narrative themes and their implications, and how each character has grown and evolved? But in a normal way?

[eddiewithcat]

obsessed with how they are building up this new friendship with eddie and tommy and showing us how ‘envious’ buck is of them instead of like, idk maybe building up eddie’s relationship with his?? girlfriend?

like god that is amazing this show is hilarious

[eddiespornstache]

i don’t mean this in a “wah i’m upset my fave is a cheater” way so please don’t take it as that but i can’t help but wonder if the kim arc wouldn’t have been narratively strengthened by having eddie and marisol break up midseason 7 before it kicked off.

i say this because the narrative never really seemed to care about marisol as a character, which consequently meant she was consistently treated as an afterthought in the storyline about her boyfriend cheating on her. which makes some amount of sense because that plot was always chiefly about how eddie chasing shannon’s ghost was always going to blow up in his face and hurt chris. he didn’t have to have a partner for the emotional affair with kim to be wrong, because the main concern of the narrative was about him betraying his son. therefore, marisol’s largely unexamined presence was unnecessary and only served to bog the main thrust of that storyline down.

it would’ve been more respectful of the writers to give marisol her own exit earlier in the season which she was the focus of. but yeah, like i said, they would’ve had to care about her for that to happen

[andavs]

I couldn’t sleep at 3am and remembered how prominent loneliness was for Eddie at the end of last season, and that he admitted to Pepa that he didn’t want to be alone. And that in this last episode after Marisol got out of bed, he put his hand where she’d been lying and smiled, followed by Bobby saying, “You haven’t really talked about her in a way that would make me think you’re considering cohabitating.” Which was followed by Eddie talking about how much he loved being married to Shannon.

So there’s probably a good possibility that Eddie isn’t into Marisol as much as he thinks, he’s into being in a relationship. And in some part of his mind, being in a relationship with someone whose past makes him uncomfortable to the point of avoiding his own home is better than being alone.

There's also the fact that in his mind, Eddie still equates dating with marriage on some level.

And that he probably blames himself for Chris' belief that the women in his life will always leave.

On an unrelated note, anyone else wondering if we'll see the panic attacks return this season after two mentions in five episodes?

[weewoo911]

Buddie prompt:

A few days before the wedding

Marisol: So do you ever think of getting married again..? Maybe… somewhere nice in the autumn?

Eddie (barely paying attention): Nah, Buck would want a spring wedding for sure

Marisol: … Buck?

Eddie: ohshit

Then Eddie shows up single and alone at the wedding and gets absolutely hammered and refuses to discuss it

[watchyourbuck]

You know what I’m actually so glad Buddie isn’t canon this season because Eddie is so clearly a mess he’s paired up and on a date with another woman bc she reminds him so much of his dead wife ?? This man needs to solve his shit and we’ll all be here for him but boy,,,,,,,

[meldoesthedraw]

💙💚🕯️✨🕯️🔮🕯️ Better be careful or she'll put a spell on you...👀

HAPPY HALLOWEEN, everyone!!!🎃✨🎃✨

(the original meme I referenced for this silliness)

[iinryer]

can we fucking stop assigning “ableist” to characters for no fucking reason. jesus christ. not only is it extremely boring and cop-out storytelling to just make villains out of regular ass characters to create your conflict, it’s also fucking jarring and exhausting to have to be slapped with slurs and ableist microagressions towards a CHILD out of nowhere while reading an otherwise unrelated (and untagged for it!) fic. im not normally one to get this negative on main, but if im being honest? you guys are pissing me the fuck off

[johanna-swann]

You know, the thing I loved most about womanizer Buck is that he was still Buck - a kind person. He had a lot of sex with a lot of women, but he wasn't ever disrespectful or pursued any women who weren't into him and he was upfront about his intentions at all times.

A lot of these kinds of characters are shown to treat women badly, cheat on them, lie to them, crossing clear boundaries the women set. Buck 1.0 was never that.

And that's precisely what bothers me so, so much about the "buckfidelity" trope. Like congrats. You turned this super kind man who always treated his casual hook-ups with respect and who now puts a lot of thought and effort into his relationships into a complete arsehole.

I'm a multishipper. If I was in the mood for Buddie and the story was written well, I'd totally go for a Bucktommy break-up / Buddie endgame fic. The potential drama. The angst. The slowburn.

One thing I'd never go for is one of my favourite characters treating an important person in their life like shit. Actually I avoid stories where the character is written as an ooc dickhead like the plague. How is this trope so popular?

[canonicallyobserving911]

Unpopular opinion: I don't want Eddie sitting at home moping about his life in season 8.

Why? Because he deserves to have fun and live a little. He has a whole life the SHOW NEVER FOCUSES ON. Who knew he was playing poker at an underground LAFD poker game with a chief, a captain and others? NO ONE! (Until 6x13.) Who knew Eddie had a muscle car? I DIDN'T! (Until 7x4.) Of course, everyone who watched season 3 knows he participates in Muay Thai fighting because he was involved in that illegal fight club Lena introduced him to but that's not the point. It appears, Eddie has interests that the show NEVER focuses on until it's convenient... so, it would be nice if he has the chance to do them ON-SCREEN.

There are some who want Eddie to just sit home and mope about his life while his friend dates a trashy dude who knows Buck wasn’t trying to get his attention 🙄 but I digress.

Anyway, I don't want him to do that because he's already done it. He carried his entire family on his back starting at the age of 10 after his dad told him "To be the man of the house" and he has been ever since. He became a husband and a father right out of high school and he’s been working to provide for his own family. Since he blew up his life and the showrunner let his parents take Chris away from him, he should be able to go out and have fun with some of his friends like Linda, Chimney, Captain Mehta, Lena, Karen and maybe some of the people he served with in the Army. Or here's a thought... HOW ABOUT LET EDDIE TALK TO HIS SISTERS! HE HAS TWO BUT NOT ONCE HAVE WE AS THE AUDIENCE SEEN HIM TALK TO OR SPEND TIME WITH THEM. It's been 6 going on 7 years and Eddie has the largest family of every main on the show so could he please spend time with his abuela, his sisters and his cousins ON-SCREEN?

Listen... some want to see Eddie pine and be jealous of whack ass T*mmy but he’s been petty for years regarding the people Buck's ended up with which means it has been done several times before. (Hello season 5 with the first T.K. when Buck took her to Eddie’s for dinner in 5x11 and when she was in his house for his welcome home party in 4x14 🙄.) Therefore, IMO, it's time for Eddie to finally live for Eddie!

Please understand, I only ship Buddie but I think it will be good for him to find a hobby he enjoys and spend time with friends because it seems like he never had the chance to do any of that. Also, him getting spiritual guidance regarding his past from the priest is one thing but the majority of people don’t live at church so he should spend time figuring out what he likes and doesn't like. He said he's a nester so he can do that while staying busy. Maybe he can take a class or do something extreme that's legal. (No fight clubbing or anything that's going to put his life or his job in danger because some parts of the fandom already villainize him but they don't hold other mains to the same standard. He's been called angry once and that was a character assassination all on its own and it's NOT TRUE!) There are lots of things he can do other than sit home.

Just thoughts.

#FreeEddieAndLetHimLiveHisLife!

#EddieDeservesToBeHappy!

[littleblackraincloudofcourse]

I think I figured out the point of Natalia

Buck thinks Natalia can see him better than he sees himself. Natalia has already proven that she's jealous of Buck's exs.

Natalia is going to get jealous of Eddie. She's going to be the one to finally tell Buck and Eddie they're in love with each other.

[buddiedaydreamer911]

bucks apartment smells like smoke.

buck is now alone in said apartment with christopher.

eddie is not there.

reasonably i know there is still an episode between now and Ashes Ashes/All Fall Down

but what the fuck

[chronicowboy]

Eddie isn't sure why he doesn't tell Buck about Marisol. He doesn't mention meeting her at the hardware store, doesn't mention exchanging numbers, doesn't mention the many failed texting attempts, definitely doesn't mention asking her out—or, well, saying yes when she asked him out.

A month ago he'd know exactly why he wasn't telling Buck about her. Most likely because a month ago he'd still believe he and Buck were dancing around something, so he never would have blushed his way through an interaction in front of the epoxy shelf in the first place. But now, with Buck and Natalia, Eddie doesn't know why he wouldn't just tell him.

Buck would be happy for him. He knows that much.

And yet, Eddie doesn't tell him, doesn't want to tell him, wants to keep Marisol as separate from Buck as he can possibly manage given how they met those first two times. He just wants to have something that isn't defined by Buck.

(He already has the heartache when Buck mentions Natalia with that little smile, already has the fear of rejection whenever he asks Buck to hang out now, already has Christopher who tilts his head when he's confused just like Buck.)

But its impossible to keep anything from Buck for long. And really, he should have seen this coming.

"Eddie, that is so embarrassing." Buck is shaking with his laughter at Christopher's colourful retelling of Eddie wiping out in the school parking lot the other day.

"For me or him?" Chris replies without missing a beat, only succeeding in making Buck laugh harder. He falls across the length of the couch as he clutches at his sides and Eddie shakes his head from the kitchen doorway. "Besides, if you think that's embarrassing," Chris snickers, and Eddie blanches, "you should have seen him trying to ask Marisol out."

Buck's laughter stops instantaneously, his whole body freezing up, and the silence consumes Eddie whole. He swallows thickly as Buck drags his eyes away from Christopher to look at Eddie. For once, Eddie can't actually see Buck, not the way he normally he can, all he sees is the Buck who can rip his heart from his sleeve and tuck it back into his chest.

"Marisol?" he prods weakly. "Rosa's mom?"

"No, God, no." Eddie shakes his head vigorously, tries to get back on even ground. "You think any single mom at that school would say yes after the Monday fiasco?"

"Who's Marisol?" Buck asks without even a huff of laughter.

"We went and helped her out after we destroyed the house she was fixing up, remember?" Eddie shrugs, ducks his head to avoid Buck's carefully blank eyes. "Saw her in the hardware store a month ago, finally worked up the courage to ask her out."

"Technically, she asked you," Chris chimes in. "I have no idea why."

"Thanks, kid," Eddie sighs.

"Wait, so I can't date someone I met on a call but you can?" Buck butts in, a heat behind the words that makes Eddie's hackles rise.

"I never said you couldn't date her," Eddie retorts, trying not to let his frustration boil over. "I politely tried to remind you that you dating someone you saved never ends well."

"Oh, wow." Buck scoffs. "I didn't save her, Eddie. She had a scratch on her hand, I patched it up. That's it."

"Yeah, I patched Ana's hand up too," Eddie mutters. He glances down at Christopher and feels a tendril of guilt curl around his heart. He's already had to live through his parents' arguments before, Eddie's not making him do it again.

Eddie purses his lips as he retreats into the kitchen, settling back against the fridge to let the cool metal calm him down. He tries to sort through Buck's reaction, but it doesn't make sense. This goes beyond the protective instincts of a best friend, and it feels like more than just Buck's abandonment issues rearing their head.

Everything gets so fucked up when one of them dates. A mess that neither one of them thinks to clean up until its too late. To Eddie, it makes sense. Now, anyway. Now, he knows why he'd hated Abby's ghost so passionately, why he'd U-turned so sharply from finding Ali perfectly nice to a ticking time bomb, why he'd only hated Taylor more with every day that had passed. And, of course, Natalia who never stood a chance when she was hanging onto Buck's death and running away from his life. Because Buck would never hold a grudge, but Eddie does it gladly and without being asked, simmering at the side-lines.

But Buck's reactions never make sense. Not to Shannon, not to Ana, not to Vanessa, not to Marisol.

"Why didn't you tell me?" Buck asks as soon as the kitchen door closes behind him.

"I don't know." Eddie squeezes his eyes shut and tilts his head towards the ceiling.

"Were you going to tell me?"

"I don't know." Eddie sighs, knocks his head against the fridge once for good measure. He cracks an eye open to look at Buck. "Were you going to tell me that you and Natalia bought a new couch together?"

"I did tell you." Buck frowns.

"No, I came over and saw the new couch and you distractedly told me that your mom's couch was covered in Kameron's amniotic fluid. Which you also didn't tell me about." Eddie folds his arms over his chest and takes a deep breath. "Buck, what are we arguing about here?"

"Our girlfriends apparently," Buck mumbles.

"I don't have a girlfriend. Just a date on Saturday." Eddie rolls his eyes, and a sharp thrill of bravery sparks at the base of his spine as he looks at Buck. "What are we really arguing about?"

"I-I don't know." Buck frowns down at his socked feet

"Maybe you should go back to the loft and figure that out," Eddie says quietly, hating himself for the flicker of hurt on Buck's face.

"Just me?" Buck croaks. "So you know what we're arguing about?"

"Yeah," Eddie whispers. He'd been arguing with himself about the very same thing for years before he'd just let himself feel it. Its only fair that Buck does the same.

"And you aren't going to tell me?" Buck asks wetly.

"Its something you have to figure out yourself, Buck." Eddie bites his lip and shrugs. "You don't have to leave now. I don't want you to leave," Eddie clarifies, "but no more arguing. Not where Chris can hear." And then, Eddie thinks that maybe he should give Buck a place to start even if Eddie never got that luxury himself. "He's already been through this with me and Shannon, doesn't need to go through it again with us."

He leaves Buck in the kitchen with the first clue to this little riddle of theirs.

[jackwhiteprophetic]

Something about the S6 finale paralleling the S5 one, Eddie is with someone who is there to "fix" things. And then season 7 ends with Marisol gone, and Buck is still there, because he stayed, because Eddie didn't just need SOMEONE he could fix things with. He needs BUCK.

[stagefoureddiediaz]

Something something about Eddie and kitchens and cooking food and sitting down to eat it and how he sits next to women on a different side but opposite buck when they sit/ are at a table together and food is involved some how.

Because when eating with Ana he was at right angles to her

When eating with Marisol he was at right angles to her

When Taylor was at dinner she was also at right angles to Eddie

But when Buck is eating with Eddie - they sit opposite each other - as seen above and below!

bonus one I'm including because while they don't 'eat' food is being prepared and the fat they're opposite but at an angle to each other plays on the growing distance in the aftermath of the lightening strike

the other thing is we've never actually seen Eddie eat bucks food - the implication is there, but unlike with when Eddie (or the women cook) we don't actually see them eat - so eating Bucks cooking - when he's got that new (queer) lasagne right - thats gonna actually be symbolic!

[daniclaytcn]

and if i said that a good portion of the bad takes about eddie on here are largely coming from a place of fandom wanting the narrative to punish him for dating people who aren't buck