#mandalmotors

[mayxthexforce]

@mutatiio is in for a surprise

The hangar was inconspicuous enough. This deep in the Coruscant Underworld, nobody would expect some small, unassuming garage within a damp, rusty shed to contain anything even remotely related to the Jedi. After all, the Jedi had their own hangar in their temple, and for anything they couldn't fit in there, they had every single GAR dock at their disposal.

That's exactly the presumptions Obi-Wan counted on people making when he picked this place to store his most priced possession, all those years ago.

What happened on Pijal changed him. People who hadn't known him back then wouldn't believe now that Master Kenobi: a man who can be counted on to be extremely careful when it comes to being behind the controls of a starship or landspeeder, used to be one of the most reckless drivers of his time. He's truly changed. But that doesn't mean he lost his love for the landspeeder he'd worked so hard to pay for and maintain.

The MandalMotors LUX landspeeder line was far from being a new model. It'd been new, exactly 20 years ago when he bought it, but even then the used models sold for way cheaper than a new one. He'd managed to get this one during the mandalorian civil war for less than a third part of its worth– the only good thing to come out of the year spent living hand to mouth and getting shot at. He'd painted it the same shade of red as his R4 astromech, because he worried about those things back then: his ride had to match his droid.

For over 12 years, the convertible sat in a garage, covered with a large, waterproof fabric. Now, it would finally change hands.

"Focus, Anakin," Obi-Wan hummed, noticing his former Padawan distracted– he couldn't blame him. The people of the underworld were quite wise in the placement of their businesses, the way to the hangar was surrounded by mechanic shops and smaller booths selling all sorts of parts. Paradise for a man as mechanically oriented as Anakin. "We're almost there."

[phoenixyfriend]

SW Masterlist: Discourse

Navigation Post

Fun fact, tumblr allows 250 links on the old editor and 100 in the new. So. Network of masterlists

This one is organized as:

Mandalore - Traditional Mandalorians - New Mandalorians

Anidala and the Tuskens Massacre

Jedi

Other

Have some maps, btw.

MANDALORE

Traditional Mandos (True and Death Watch)

Timeline/Explanation of the True Mandalorians

True Mando Discourse/True Mandos did shoot first (etc.) - Jango gave the order to do so - The American Militia comparison

Are the True Mandalorians canon again since Jaster was name-dropped in The Mandalorian? (Short answer: no.)

Traditional Mandalore and the American Far Right - Why gun control? - The Doylist racism - More about the racism

The whitewashing that affected the clones and all of New Mandalore was also applied to the True Mandalorians, and to judge New Mandalore for their wholly white presentation without judging the True Mandalorians is a problem (with screenshots)

Traditional Mandalorians through the lens of the devsirme

Jango did a genocide (and the only way to make him unaware is to strip him of the Legends backstory that has him as former Mand’alor)

Quick checklist of diversity of True Mandos (as shown in Open Seasons) vs New Mandos (as shown in TCW)

The canonicity of anti-slavery trad mandos is... questionable

When fic takes “Mandalorians are good with children” to unreasonable degrees.

Mandalorian Empire through the lens of Ancient Rome

Don’t Make Me Tap The Sign meme

New Mandos

Satine’s handling of Mando’a (Death Watch Propaganda)

Maybe Satine had a Point

Padme and Satine - Just Satine

Satine is the equivalent of a 70s anti-Vietnam-War protestor (

This war could have been an email

Satine’s policies (and attitude towards child-rearing) as influenced by her traumas

What did Satine even do in canon that could be considered cultural genocide as claimed by fanon? - This one has more iterations - Mandalore’s Bernie Sanders (edit by @personontheswing) - Why Mandalore fell

“Obi-Wan is better at Mandalorian stuff than Satine” mmmm no

Satine is the sitcom mom of Mandalorian politics - Follow-up

Why “Satine should have been a villain” really gets my goat. (stats) - Other version

Hot Take: Satine Kryze should have been a woman of color - All of New Mandalore should have been more diverse

The Britain comparison

TFW Satine and Obi-Wan’s approach to parting at the end of their year together is reversed solely to make Satine seem less suited to Obi-Wan

The MandalMotors accusation

Canon Satine vs Fanon Satine

Satine and Tarre?

Best alt name for Duke Kryze (because of the cultural appropriation) poll

Retconning the domestic bliss for Anidala vs retconning the New Mandalorians as cultural genocide

Stop flipping and worsening the Obitine dynamic just so you can pretend your preferred shipmate for him is better than Satine because they ‘understand’ him better.

Why did Satine need to “learn” to compromise, exactly?

Reasons and ways we disregard canon

You know she doesn’t have to be an Evil Bitch Ex, right? She can just be dead.

ANIDALA and TUSKENS MASSACRE

The acceptable amount of baby murder is None

Padme’s not actually the most rational person here

And yeah she’s kinda racist

And that racism parallels history

Who was she supposed to tell? (Obi-Wan. She was supposed to tell Obi-Wan) - The absolute coldest take

“The Jedi wouldn’t understand.”

Anakin’s Slippery Slope to Baby Murder (Take One) Alt title for this post is: Anakin grabbed a sled to the slippery slope

Torture had something to do with it

Padme is a train wreck and that’s what makes her fun, fight me

“Padme deserves better” is wrong because as far as Padme is concerned, ‘better’ does not exist. Anakin got full marks, it’s just that Padme’s rubric is different from basically anyone else’s. “Better” is just an Anakin who didn’t help overthrow democracy.

A rant on my hate for “Anakin mindcontrolled Padme into loving him”

A touch on Padme Characterization

Writing Nuance

All said, Anakin/Consequences is actually a red flag - And I hate It

JEDI

What are the Jedi bringing balance to

Not enough Jedi for the whole galaxy - And held up to unrealistic standards - Prioritizing Shmi could have been justified without favoritism (but doesn’t really matter)

Why did Qui-Gon bring Anakin to Naboo?

The Jedi lost their way

Jedi crit cannot exist in a vacuum

How are you defining this word that is central to the argument?

Ruusan Reformation

The question of finance

Jedi don’t do excommunication in any but the absolute most extreme cases (and if someone is going full Sith Lord, like Tyranus or Vader, they’ve usually already left voluntarily)

Hot take: Qui-Gon’s survival would have contributed to keeping Anakin stable and not prone to attachment.

The Amatonormativity of fandom

“Why didn’t the Jedi help Shmi?” Why didn’t Padme. - Addendum

This isn’t discourse I just really love Ahsoka

How old is Quinlan, anyway?

The question of writing Barriss

I need a visual timeline of the Jedi Council

Why I don’t post Jedi Crit, even if I sometimes think it

Where did the "Obi-Wan's parents tried to drown him in a river" headcanon even come from?

Why is Star Wars fandom not telling us that the reason Qui-Gon didn’t go back for Obi-Wan on Melida/Daan was that Xanatos was trying to kill green grandpa?

How real-world traumas wrt immigration inform our interactions with the idea of Jedi being asked ‘but where are you from?’ - Contribution from another

Trying to figure out where I got Those Assumptions about the Traviss TCW novel from

Other

Flavors of Discourse

I think the GAR being only three million clones actually does make sense, even for space.

Boba’s (almost) war crime

What even is a war crime - We don’t care

Filoni only knows how to tell one kind of story

Why do people write Rex not liking Anakin as a person?

Cliegg/Shmi can be viewed as a frontier marriage

The best flavor of “Anakin gets left on Tatooine”

Devaronian girls deserve horns too

Cloneshipping - Yes, that size kink can be racist

In Defense of Clonecest

TCW and portrayal of the Separatists

Ship Tomato

All Age Difference Codywan comes back to me (this isn’t true but it is related to a plagiarism scandal, don’t worry about it)

Stewjon as Space Scotland

Shipping got in the way of my plan

Retraction of an assumption I had about a scene with Kitster and Anakin

Why is it admirable for the twins to treat R2 like a real person and recognize his apparent sentience, but Anakin doing the same is him “not valuing the lives of clones”

That one plagiarism situation

(I wasn’t thinking of it as one because I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt but I shared to a friend who is usually good about giving me reality checks and was informed that “No they fully plagiarized your ass.” So. There’s that.)

My original au post

The first time someone told me about the fic it (allegedly) inspired - I do know one person (just one) went in and left a comment to ask, but never got an answer

I recced one of their other fics, which I had enjoyed a lot, and an anon asked me if I was reccing someone that had used one of my fic concepts without permission.

Finding out they have a tumblr, from someone who had put them on a do-not-read list because they found the situation too sketchy

All Age Diff Codywan Leads Back to Nixy (AKA I sent an ask to test the waters, dug a bit, and was thus informed that I did inspire the fic, though it was a different post, but that ‘modern au codywan is so common that it’s not like credit is needed. I reblogged with a meme in hopes that it would be a polite, lighthearted way to indicate they should still maybe add a credit link in an A/N)

About two months after that, I found that they had deleted their tumblr, added the fic to a hidden collection so it could no longer be accessed, and blocked me on AO3.

So who knows what the situation even is anymore, but that is the process. Mostly it’s just been very frustrating and a little baffling because. It could have all been resolved with a single sentence. Just one “this fic was inspired by these posts on tumblr” in an A/N, and nobody would have cared.

[manofbeskar]

oc spotlight 3 — renyn kress

renyn kress is a human bounty hunter from corellia. sometime in 36 BBY, she hunted down a nite owl mandalorian named esme vaughn and managed to kill her. in the aftermath, she stole mandalmotor parts from esme's ship to improve her own v-19 torrent starfighter (stolen from her republic navy ex) as well as surviving parts of esme's armour. she repainted it red and gave the gauntlets and one knee plate to her partner, kenlaze veld. though not a mandalorian (and barely respecting of them), she was aware of their reputation and used esme's armour to pretend to be a mandalorian in order to raise her bounty hunting prices.

[mrfandomwars]

History Of Mandalore

Build the Millennium Falcon: Guide to the Galaxy - The History of Mandalore

Sorry for the quality of the images, but it was the best ones I had

Text on the images is written down for those whose image isn't loading or simply find the quality of the images too hard to read, after the break.

I will handle first the actual text, then Death Watch and Symbolism, and finally the Behind the Scenes text. All the red (and yellow) texts will appear between two brackets at the end of the section that they appeared in.

(Mandalore: Grid Coordinates_0.7

Rotation period 19 Standard Hours, Orbital Period 366 local days; Moons: Concordia;

Astrogation Data:

Region - Outer Rim Territories/Mandalorian Space

Sector - Mandalore Sector

System - Mandalore System

Orbital Position - 5

Trade Routes - Hydian Way (closest)

Physical Data

Class - Terrestrial

Diameter - 9,200 km

Atmosphere - Type I (breathable oxygen/hydrogen/nitrogen mix)

Climate - Temperate, arid

Gravity - Standard

Primary Terrain - Deserts, cities

Population - 4 million

HISTORY OF MANDALORE:

Plagued by a turbulent history, Mandalore is an Outer Rim planet with a fiercely independent people that was divided by recent conflicts and the Clone Wars. Tough Mandalore's surface will probably never recover from the wars of the past, its people will always be proud to be Mandalorians.

Mandalore is the fifth planet orbiting its sun, and has two moons. The planetary surface was once lush with jungles and seas, but has been turned into a lifeless desert by countless conflicts, including an ancient war against the Jedi. In order to survive under these unbearable conditions, the Mandalorians began to build domed cities, such as the capital of Sundari, located in the centre of an endless desert of white sand.

A gigantic bio-dome covers the modern cube-like city, which has buildings and structures made of permacrete and transparisteel. Mandalorians who had renounced the old ways created this new settlement in a time of peace, and now automated repulsorlift transports carry people into the heart of the city where they can see important sites such as the Royal Palace, the Royal Academy of Government and the Memorial Shrine. Mandalore is also home to MandalMotors, a large corporation that produces specifically Mandalorian spaceships, repulsorlift vehicles, weapons and equipment.

While the human population was able to survive because of technology, the wildlife of Mandalore suffered. A few species managed to survive by adapting to the changing conditions, and rare examples of others lived on in captivity. One lost species that had significant influence on Mandalorian traditions was the shriek-hawk, an avian predator also known as the jai'galaar. The long extinct mythosaur was a creature of gigantic proportions, whose memory still lives on today in the mythosaur skull emblem sported by many Mandalorians.

[A giantic bio-dome covers the modern cube-like capital city Sundari, which has buildings and structures made of permacrete and transparisteel.

Under the city domes, Mandalorian architecture is based on cubist designs, characterized by interlocking blocks.]

Warlike Traditions

The warlike Mandalorians are the stuff of legends used to scare children. Wearing their distinctive armour, they fought against the Jedi in the Old Republic, and were once part of a raid on the Jedi Temple. Despite the fact that the Mandalorians were able to expand their influence and territory considerably throughout the regions surrounding Mandalore and beyond, different factions made Mandalorian politics complicated and highly unpredictable. Traditionalists, reformers and invaders all ruled and profited from the civil wars that have raged on the planet.

[Inside the towering domes, the architecture of Mandalore's cities repeat cubist themes, with airy structures made of permacrete and transparisteel.]

New Mandalorians

After the Great Clan Wars, which took place a decade before the Clone Wars, the Mandalorians were ruled by Duchess Satine Kryze of Kalevala and her New Mandalorians, who broke away from the violent past and ruled Mandalore through peace and diplomacy. As leader of the Council of Neutral Systems, the duchess represented over 1,500 systems that strove to stay neutral during the Clone Wars. Satine ruled with the assistance of a Prime Minister and a Ruling Council of at least six Ministers, among them a Minister of Finance and a Minister of the Interior. Other functions in the government were those of the Governor and Deputy Minister.

The New Mandalorians struggled to minimise the influence of the group known as Death Watch, who longed to return Mandalore to its warrior roots with the support of the Confederacy. Secretly leading Death Watch was Governor Pre Vizsla of Concordia, one of Satine's trusted allies. Also on Death Watch's payroll was Prince Tal Merrik, the Senator of Kalevala and one of the duchess's oldest friends.

After being betrayed by her allies, Satine barely succeeded in avoiding a Republic intervention on Mandalore by uncovering a recording that showed the Republic Senate a forged message from the loyal Deputy Minister Jerec. Had that invasion taken place, Death Watchstood ready to act as the liberators of the Mandalorian people, who would undoubtedly have chosen their side against the Republic. The government of the New Mandalorians remained fragile, due to corruption among the political upper class and because Pre Vizsla, the leader of Death Watch, was constantly plotting against Duchess Satine.

Towards the end of the Clone Wars, with the help of the Shadow Collective crime syndicate, Death Watch finally managed to depose the New Mandalorains and they once again gained support of the Mandalorian people. Not all members of Death Watch remained loyal after Pre Vizsla was slain by Darth Maul, the leader of the Shadow Collective. Bo-Katan Kryze and the Nite Owls left Death Watch as another splinter group after the deaths of Vizsla and Satine Kryze. In the end, not even Death Watch could protect Mandalore from succumbing to the Galactic Empire, which installed a military Academy on the planet.

[Automated repulsorlift transport-decks with aerial landing plataforms to speed passengers around the Mandalorian capital city. Important locations include centres of government, culture and manufacturing.

As the leader of the Council of Neutral Systems, pacifist DDuchess Satine Kryze of the New Mandalorians represented over 1,500 systems that strove to stay neutral during the Clone Wars.

While touring the gardens, the duchess and Obi-Wan Kenobi witnessed a terrorist bomb explode and while they tended to the injured, saw a hologram of the Death Watch crest.

Prime Minister Almec, who had ruled the planet under Duchess Satine Kryze, was reinstalled after Death Watch staged a coupp, and told the people that Satine had murdered Death Watch's former leader Pre Vizsla.

As a means of gaining more power on Mandalore, Death Watch allied itself with crime syndicates and the two Sith Nightbrothers, Darth Maul and Savage Opress.]

Death Watch

(Wayland is a possible planet shown behind the white box of text that the Death Watch section is in.

OP here, is it possible that Wayland is the name of the second moon? Food for thought for those who are reading.)

Death Watch, which used the symbol of a jai'galaar, was a faction that longed to return to Mandalore's warrior past.

When Duke Adonai 1 was killed during the Great Clan Wars that raged on Mandalore, Death Watch leader Pre Vizsla considered the Duke's pacifist daughter Duchess Satine unworthy to lead the Mandalorians, and planned an alliance with Count Dooku. However, this went sour after a planned Republic invasion didn't occur. Driven by revenge and honour, Vizsla led Death Watch offworld until Darth Maul and his Shadow Collective helped them to defeat the duchess New Mandalorians.

However, Vizsla's victorious return to Mandalore was short-lived, as Maul killed him to become the new leader of Death Watch.

[Death Watch wore the identifying symbol of the shriek-hawk, an extinct avian predator of Mandalore, which was also known as the jai'galaar.

During the Clone Wars, Pre Vizsla led the Death Watch splinter group in opposition to the pacifist Satine Kryze and her peaceful New Mandalorians.]

Symbolism

The Mandalorian suits of armour and helmets with their characteristic T-shaped visor are the most widely recognized elements from the Mandalorian warrior culture. They have been worn by the Death Watch, the Mandalorian Supper Commandos, and also by bounty hunters such as Jango and Boba Fett. Peaceful symbols could be encountered on Mandalore as well. During the reign of the New Mandalorians, the citizens of Sundari all wore similar, modern clothing, ranging from white to pale blue. Sundari's bright architecture is very cubist and this style also extends to paintings in government buildings depicting historical events and political leaders. Another symbol omnipresent among the Mandalorians is the Ka'rta, a hexagonal shape integrated in Mandalorian clothing, design and architecture.

[The Mandalorians Super Commandos were among the many members of the warrior elute who adopted the distinctive armour and helmet.]

Behind the Scenes: Long History

The name Mandalore first appeared as a mention on the Boba Fett concept art drawn by Joe Johnson for The Empire Strikes Back, which referred to him being a 'super commando from the Mandalore system'. The name Mandalore was kept alive and appeared for the first time in Star Wars 68: The Search Begins, a Marvel comic from 1983, where Leia is searching for Han Solo, frozen in carbonite. Many aspects of the planet and its culture were created after a connection had been established between the clone troopers and the Mandalorians. Author Karen Traviss once even worked on turning Mando'a into a working language. Star Wars: The Clone Wars chose a new direction for Mandalorian society, but also kept some elements from former stories, such as Death Watch. A lot of prequel concept art was reused for the Mandalorian designs, such as a concept art that had been originally intended for Amidala (Satine) and Sith (Mandalorian Royal Guards).

[The Mandalorian Royal Guards were based on concept art originally designed for the Sith.]

[professorscrooge]

Thoughts on Mandalorian Territory

Recent poll over at @tarre-was-right on Satine vs Jaster has me thinking about the New Mandalorian Government, what would be on their in-universe Manifestos, and particularly towards; how do they treat their territories beyond Mandalore itself?

In both Legends and Canon, we see other planets under the auspice of Mandalorian Space or otherwise controlled by Mandalorians (e.g. Concord Dawn, Krownest, Kalevala etc. they definitely control in TCW/Rebels era, but historically they conquered places like Vanquo and Taris and maybe they held on to a few, and Legends explicitly lists places like Ordo (of Clan Ordo) and Vora'ya) which presumably they've previously conquered/colonised as a byproduct of their many centuries as a warrior culture. It's probably one of the reasons Mandalore remains such a prominent Galactic power in that they control multiple systems. There's probably a lot of background history in how these worlds were 'acquired'.

I'm wondering now how that would have potentially changed under Adonai/Satine/New Mandalorian Government, who explicitly were trying to distance themselves from former warrior aspects of their culture. I could see that involving Independence or Reparations to former colonies, and maybe be a major aspect of policy and debate (which Death Watch likely capitalised on). Following the Civil War, maybe some planets are hold-outs for more traditionalists who can't get on with New Mandalorian society and secede. Or, maybe this was something Satine's government had to compromise on or were longer term plans amidst the other changes being made very quickly to Mandalorian culture (e.g. there's major Mandalorian shipyards and manufacturers like MandalMotors or Kalevala Spaceworks, who may have something to say on changes that may impact their profits by potential of tariffs and different governments to negotiate with). My mind goes to the breakup of the British Empire, Partition of India, the formation of the Commonwealth etc. but I'm not sure the allegory 100% works.

[sootyships]

It crossed my mind that maybe MandalMotors vehicle names could be used as a starting point *think*

Do u have any thoughts on... Mando'a letter "names"? Aurebesh and Sith have letter names, and the greek letter names exist, so... *think*

Nothing finished, but I have thought that if you wanted to lean on the military culture thing, then the names of the letters might be the same as the phonetic alphabet.

And if you like the Mando’a as a creole headcanon, imagine if you shanghaied a bunch of folks who don’t speak your language into a NATO army and taught them that this is how you spell things. What are they going to think are the names of the letters?

That’s of course assuming that a phonetic alphabet is an obvious enough an invention that Mandalorians have invented or copied it, and that technology hasn’t made it obsolete.

I do have somewhere an unfinished draft of a phonetic alphabet & I’ve also seen others floating around. Might even have reblogged one iirc. There are certain design restrictions (e.g. words can’t sound too similar or be too common), and on the other hand, I think a spelling alphabet might be something that could fossilise and stay unchanged even though the language around it changes, so it might be a bit archaic. Possibly Neo-Crusader archaic.

Or you could go with something boring like Finnish or English letters, of course.

[oh-no-eu-didnt]

Crusader-class corvettes were fast starships designed by MandalMotors. Designed as a homage to ancient Mandalorian models, Crusaders were dangerous counters to starfighters. They were heavily armed and equipped with advanced point defense weaponry to counter swarms of smaller ships.

Source: Star Wars: Empire at War: Forces of Corruption (2006)

Read more on Wookieepedia.

[kv-actual]

Getting hot and bothered by this MandalMotors fan design of a beskad class fighter CREDIT: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/2dDvA

[direwolfrules]

3 Mandos and a Baby AU: The Aq Vetina Crisis Part 2

So, the Republic mediators are Bail, Padme, and Obi-Wan. Anakin and Ahsoka are going along for security reasons, along with a some clones. Unbeknownst to the rest of the delegation, Anakin was personally asked by the Chancellor to spy on the Mandos and figure out what they’re planning. Anakin’s kinda conflicted on this because the Mand’alor is beloved by the men and once spent three hours reading out the names of every slave Orn Fre Taa traded, but the Chancellor’s counting on him.

“It’s a very important job Anakin my boy, and you’re the only one I trust to do it”. Ugh. Skeevy Sheev is skeevy.

So, Mandalore pushes for the negotiations to be held on Aq Vetina, in the slowly rebuilding city of Floria Prima. They may or may not threaten to pull their deployed troops out of the field if this demand is not met. Palpatine convinces his old friend Senator Vald to concede to their demand, in the name of peace (Palpatine is already plotting. The deaths of several high ranking officials in the location the Mandalorians chose would be a delightful justification to call for a Republic occupation. And poor, poor Anakin, if Senator Amidala should be one of those to fall).

So everyone meets up on Aq Vetina. The Jinata-Meerian delegation is basically just Jinata system reps and a member of the Trade Federation, with only Senator Larwellian Greevdos (I have given up on giving people names that make even the slightest lick of sense. I realized I don’t have to, it’s Star Wars, home of Ima Gun-Di) and a representative of the Mining Guilds representing the Meerian Sector.

Negotiations are tense, partly because of the circumstances and partly because the pretentious Jinata reps think the Mandalorians aren’t taking this seriously. I mean, the Mand’alor’s aunt is staring at them menacingly while holding a small child and instead of disciplining her or sending the kid away the Mand’alor keeps sneaking the kid fruit! 

Listen, Fenn’s off on Corellia with a squad of Protectors and Bo’s strill escorting a Mandalmotors executive and a member of the Ministry of Defense to speak to one of the many ship design companies on a joint project or two. He can’t watch Din right now he’s busy getting embroiled in shenanigans involving orphaned scrumrats and photosensitive crime lords.

Anyway, back at the negotiating table in a move that surprises everyone neither the Mand’alor, the Jorad’alor, or Senator Batin speak. No, instead they give the floor to Administrator Rhuya Kadjn of Aq Vetina, who speaks of how it was the Mandalorians who saved them and gave them the chance to rebuild. How not a single one of the crates of relief supplies came from Jinata or the Republic. It was all Mandalore. The Mando’ade had, in typical Mando’ade fashion, become inextricably part of their lives, whether as spouses or as adoptive parents for children orphaned in the attack.

Then Journeyman Ruus Halax of Vanquo tells a story of how many years ago, Mandalore the Ultimate conquered the planet, and though in the centuries that followed the Republic reconquered the planet, Mandalorian culture remained. That, combined with Mand’alor Kryze’s new mining regulations (jointly thought up by Mandalore the Binder and Mandalore the Uniter) made swearing fealty to the Mandalorian government seem pretty sweet. Especially after years of various mining companies and guilds bleeding them dry. They remember what happened on Bandomeer years ago, how some of their people went looking for work but wound up in slave collars instead.

The rest of the day is spent going around in circles because in a battle like this the only way to win is stubbornness. Bail calmly suggests they all break for dinner, and maybe explore the rebuilt city center, to get a better idea of how things are developing on planet. Everyone thinks it’s a marvelous idea, and Padme discreetly suggests to Anakin that they turn it into a date night.

Meanwhile Ahsoka’s trying to avoid focusing on the vaguely humanoid translucent blue figures lurking in the corner of her eye, but she’s not gonna tell her masters because then they’ll just make her go to medical for what might just be a reaction between the local environment and her Torgruta physiology. It’s not, Korkie’s ghosts just recognize another mandokarla Force-sensitive.

Anyway, everyone splits up with their various security teams: Padme is with Anakin and Rex + some other 501st troopers, Bail and Obi-Wan are hanging out with a few of the men, the Jinata-Meerian reps brought their own security, and the Mandalorians are Mandalorians. Ahsoka’s given permission by Anakin to go out and have fun.

Obi-Wan leads Bail and the men to a classic Mandalorian tihaar’yaim (bar) for drinks and classic spicy mando bar food. Shenanigans ensue, including Obi-Wan getting a bit wasted and confiding in Bail about Korkie maybe being his son. Bail’s just kinda like “okay, we been knew” and trying not to choke on the extra spicy food the Jedi ordered. Listen, Bail can handle spice, but Mandalorian levels of spice are something else. It’s like if someone used to Scotch Bonnets at most was given a 7 Pot Yellow. Poor man is dying.

Anakin and Padme are having an awesome date night at this cute little out of the way restaurant while Rex and the rest of the men on security detail try to discreetly blend in. One benefit of Mandalore’s clone freedom underground is no one questions the number of clones in the building that night. Their night is interrupted when Lady Bo-Katan comes in along with her scary second-in-command, some dude they hadn’t seen earlier, and the same kid she had on her lap before.

Somehow the Mandos don’t notice them (actually they do they just don’t care) but they spend the rest of their date huddled down in their booth trying to be as inconspicuous as possible, painfully aware of everything the three adults say.

Bo thanks Ursa and Alrich for agreeing to eat at this place instead of one of the various mando-centric food halls, Din – apparently that’s the kid’s name – was a good boy at the negotiations today and she promised him some sort of local cake, and this place makes the best. Ursa reveals she’s pregnant, and Anakin is a little shocked to feel through the Force that the two parents to be are sad, and kinda grieving. Then one of them mentions their prior losses (refering to Tristan and Sabine) and Anakin and Padme immediately draw the wrong conclusion. But for Ursa and Alrich that grief is an ever present thing and they’re genuinely excited for this new ik’aad.

Then Bo says “wait a minute, did you guys actually remember to get married?” and the short answer is no, no they did not. Listen, they were going to, it’s just everytime they attempted to find a cord and a crowd yet another crisis occurred and things got delayed.

Alrich jumps up and asks if anyone has a red cord and surprisingly one of the 501st clones throws him one (the clone is named Loverboy and he is living). Loverboy also offers to video the riduurok for them, and they accept. So yeah, Anakin and Padme’s date got crashed by a pregnancy announcement and an impromptu wedding, but at least Anakin has some decent intel on some important Mandos for the Chancellor.

Ahsoka winds up hanging out with the Mand’alor and his friends. She just kinda ran into them as they headed out to go to explore the town and she somehow was convinced to join them. They wind up watching Mandalorian Mamma Mia at the rec center, because I believe in Space ABBA supremacy. It’s fun except those blue flashes Ahsoka’s seeing are more common around the Mand’alor and it’s seriously starting to freak her out. At one point she thinks she hears a voice (Myles really loves the “Does Your Mother Know” scene).

As for Satine, her and the rest of the Mandalorian party are watching a video of Senator Batin’s youngest son Rav take his first steps and making the appropriate cooing noises.

I’m gonna make a part 3 cause this is longer than I’d like.

[direwolfrules]

I don't get how anyone could claim Death Watch has the moral high ground, and I honestly feel like that's one of the things we as a fandom should use as a red flag indicator.

Like, literally one of the first things the Death Watch does in Disney canon (because if we go into Legends canon it's just too many war crimes for this post) is attempt to force Mandalore into a brutal, galaxy-spanning conflict. They then proceed to blow up a memorial for all those who died in the last war. Then the first thing they do when they're forced into the open and hiding out on Carlac was enslave the inhabitants of a village and then burn the place down.

And honestly, I vibe with the New Mandalorians, especially the Legends explanation of the movement's origin. Like, Mandalore was feared for good reason. The old Mandalorian Crusaders were responsible for actual genocides. The Taung species, the original Mandalorians, were driven extinct by the constant wars. So when the Mandalorian people entered a period of rapid technological advancement/economic growth while still adhering to the ancient warrior ways, they got bombed to oblivion and occupied for a time. That is the context the New Mandalorian movement first cropped up in. (And if you align it with Disney Canon, the theft of the Darksaber would have happened around this time, which would be seen as an attack on the Republic capital and thus provocation for one of the most stupendously horrible acts the Republic ever performs).

And like, why would anyone in Sundari, excluding the Protectors, be wearing armor? Sundari was a city at peace. The guy ordering office supplies at the MandalMotors building certainly doesn't need to be fully armed. The janitor at the local public school might like to be wearing a sealed helmet when it comes time to clean the bathrooms, but otherwise, it's heavy and a hassle. And that's assuming these average folks can afford beskar, an increasingly rare and valuable metal that needs to be forged by someone specially trained.

I do have to say that some of the aesthetics of Mandalorian armor are kept in New Mandalorian fashion. The cut of the clothing and the patterns resemble armor plates. Almost every outfit has a bit shaped like a traditional beskar heart on it, including the uniforms of the Royal Academy of Government. There's a point to be made there, I'm just too tired for my brain cells to do so.

There were also still ways to be a warrior Mandalorian (the Protectors, the Royal Guard), they just weren't allowed to be conquerer Mandalorians.

Also, Satine did try to talk with Vizsla. He just responded with taunts, murder attempts, and unjustly imprisoning her. She told him, his ways would lead to the ruination of Mandalore. And she was right.

The sequence of events that led to the Night of a Thousand Tears can be traced back to Pre and his followers pulling their nonsense. Like, obviously it was the fascist evil slaver Empire that pulled the trigger, but Pre ultimately weakened Mandalore with his coup (how many Protectors do you think died because they refused to forswear their loyalty to the Duchess?), and by trying to double-cross the Sith Lord he stupidly made an alliance with (causing the Nite Owl/Shadow Collective schism, and ultimately resulting in Republic troops being sent to Mandalore).

i just saw someone have A Wrong Opinion but i kept scrolling and didn't bother to argue with them, brb giving myself a gold star and second dessert for my self control

[gogololo]

Over here with my Mandalorian OC like:

"Hey Boss?"

Teva blinked looking up from their desk, scattered with schematics and notes, a questionable amount of energy drinks within reach and lunch that still hadn't been touched despite being there for over an hour now.

In the doorway of their office stood one of the production team, overalls messy with dirt and grime, gloves in hand as he fidgeted with them.

It was odd to get a visit directly instead of being requested to come down to the facility floor.

"Yeah? What's up? Something break again?" They looked back to their data pad motioning for him to step in. He took a shaky breath before doing so, a motion not unnoticed by the mirialan on the couch.

"Uh no, everythings great, we're actually ahead of production currently which uh..which is part of why the team and I were wondering if we could maybe…knock off early? We have a thing we wanna go to-"

"We can't just close-" the woman on the couch protested before being interrupted by Tevas hand raising twords her and requesting a pause. Slowly the Mandalorian looked up, unhelmeted eyes locking with the production team members'.

"What's the thing? That y'all wanna go to?" This seemed to catch him off guard but the answer was genuine all the same even if he was sheepish about it.

"Well uh, doctor, there's this band. The Meat Droids-" Teva interrupted a bemused smile on their face as they leaned back in their chair.

"I know of them, keep going." again the words caught him off guard but he continued

"We found out they're playing a show tonight and we just wanted to make sure we had time to go ya know? And I get-"

"Yes." He looked shocked, eyes wide in confusion at the suddenness of their answer. At the same time he and the mirialan responded, her heels clicking on the tile floor as she sat up from her seat.

"What?"

"Teva you can't just-"

"On one condition." Once again they didn't hesitate to interrupt and they both paused to let the doctor speak a grin steadily growing on their face. "Send me the time and place. This is a team building event after all. Tell the crew to log their hours accordingly. MandalMotors is covering the tab."

There was a pause, like he wasn't sure if the engineer was serious before he matched their grin.

"Yes! I'll do that right away! Thank you so much!" He rushed out the door and they chuckled hearing his boots running down the hall.

"Teva." To anyone else she would have sounded disappointed, but after all these years the Mando knew it was amusement coloring her voice.

"What? Buir said I should do more team building stuff, this seemed like a perfect opportunity." Seeing the judgment in the others eyes they laughed and added "ok ok, also I want to go too. So, gather me up the paperwork so I can get it done and then we can knock off early too?"

"Of course Doctor, whatever you say."

@keldabekush

[tarrevizsla]

Star Wars: The Clone Wars 5.14 Eminence

The Kom'rk-class fighter/transport, also called Gauntlet starfighter, was a starship designed by rogue members of the MandalMotors corporation for use by the violent Mandalorian splinter-group known as the Death Watch. Over fifty meters in length, and equipped with laser cannons and powerful engines, each Kom'rk model was an able assault craft and fighter.

- Wookieepedia

[phoenixyfriend]

A few years into knighthood, Obi-Wan takes a solo mission to work off some stress while Anakin goes on a class field trip. Maybe it’s a two-week thing to Ilum and the crechemaster asked for Anakin to come along as assistant because he just got upgraded to Senior Padawan and he needs some practice with the kids anyway. Obi-Wan wasn’t invited. Doesn’t matter. Point is, he’s alone and mostly relaxed with the opportunity to dodge enemy fire and the plots of wicked men without having to worry about a teenager. He gets a little drunk, he falls into bed with strangers, he loses his clothes, he gambles a little.

He gambles a lot.

He… just won a moon. And eight ships.

And fifty slaves.

Okay, fine, that’s fine, he can work with that, great opportunity to free enslaved people. Anakin will love this story. He doesn’t need the moon,though, he can lose that on the next hand, it’ll make people less likely to shoot him when he goes to leave and how did he just win the crown jewels of a small planet.

Did he just win another sixty slaves?

How is this–

No, he didn’t–

“You just won majority ownership of MandalMotors–”

Why the fuck did someone put up the controlling stake of a company that big as a bet

He was just looking to let off some steam.

What just happened.

[archeo-starwars]

MandalMotors

[cienie-isengardu]

Satine and Pre: Personal Ships

Previous parts: political & social position < • > Wealth: clothes < • > paintings seen in their residences < • > living conditions < • >

This time I’m gonna talk about two very different ships - Satine’s Coronet (Luxury spaceliner):

and Pre’s Gauntlet (Kom’rk Class Fighter/Transporter)

Starting from the beginning, building ships & vehicles seems to be thriving industry of Mandalore System, what I assume is one of main income for New Mandalorian society. 

Coronet itself is an interesting ship, not only due to its wealth, but also its role. Let’s look what The Clone Wars: Incredible Vehicles (TCW:IV) tells about Satine’s luxury ship.

Coronet is one-of-a-kind model built by Kalevala Spaceworks - once again, Satine’s personal wealth / position is backed up by her native planet.

It’s hard to tell who really invented (initiated) building such expansive ship (Mandalore’s ruler herself? Kalevala Spaceworks, as a gift for new duchess? Someone’s else?) but luxury alone wasn’t the reason for such project. Coronet is a showcase for Mandalorian engineering AND proof that New Mandalorians left their violent past behind (about that more information soon). Thus the ship is a tool of Satine’s ideology / propaganda. And is used in her political work:

What was also pointed out in TCW: New Battlefronts:

Beside the role in Satine’s politics, Coronet also serves as luxury starcruiser, carrying out different types of travelers (from the richer officials & tourists to the ones seeking cheap passage) and goods during its travel between Mandalore System/Sektor to Core Worlds, like Coruscant.

The quality and size of the rooms varied depending on the wealth of traveler. From the layout of the ship and TCW animated series we know that on Coronet, Satine has Royal Suites and Throne Room

that for sure look much richer, more colorful than the cheaper rooms like the one shared by Anakin and Obi-Wan (who as Jedi, refused to take room for VIPs)

Satine can’t complain about lack of luxury during her travel. To be fair, the whole interior of the ship intended for passengers looks beautiful, with rich details that are made of the best things from all Mandalorian worlds:

The luxury for all passengers has its hidden meaning as well. The Coroner is a tool for political meetings no less as a tool to popularize the pacifist New Mandalorians as a better culture, detached from the predecessors' crimes. The trips of Coroner are as much about transport and trade as they are about changing people’s mind about Mandalore System/Sector and giving them a chance to see Mandalorian worlds - and its beauty & wealth - for themselves.

Here comes an intrigue part - the ship is presented in sources as luxury vessel that belongs to Duchess of Mandalore. There is little information how planning Coronet’s trips worked and how often those happened or how those were related to Satine’s political activity. I mean, the ship is a private property of the ruler, yet it is used for good of common people (both native of Mandalore System/Sektor and outsiders). I’m not sure if during Clone Wars era we heard about other royal vessel used like that. BUT!

Luxury travel alone can’t pay the operating expenses of a liner the size of the Coronet. The great ship’s lower decks are mostly for cargo [...].

I’m seriously intrigued WHO GET THE IDEA OF MAKING SUCH LUXURY SHIP THAT IS SO EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN? To the point that not even selling tickets for travel from Core Worlds to Mandalore System/Sektor is enough and the vessel must be used as container ship at the same times?

Like, I get that this is practical thing to do, to combine useful with pleasure and all, but I kinda get the feeling the Kalevala Spaceworks and/or Duchess or whoever came up with the idea may not think it over really. Coronet is supposed to be a showcase for Mandalorian engineering and new face of Mandalorian culture under pacifist ruler. Sharing vessel with common people by duchess was intended from the start or did it became a necessity when cost of maintaining turned out to be too expensive? Also, who paid for the production of ship and who is paying now for its maintaining? How much (if even) it burdens the state budget or Satine’s own wealth? Could the cost be reason why Coronet is one-of-a-kind model? Was it so unprofitable to produce more or didn’t Kaleva Spaceworks want to undermine the ruler's prestige?

On one hand, the Coronet belongs to Duchess, and plays political role in Satine’s attempts to gain allies, at least during Clone Wars. On another It also carry different types of travelers and goods (transport and trade) and plays a role in propagation the more friendly image of Mandalorian people in the Core Worlds.

Frankly, the last part may be one of reason why Pre despise so much Satine’s rule and thinks she “tarnishes” the name of Mandalorian by making Mandalore the “cheap entertainment” for boredom people of Core Worlds.

In contrast, the Gauntlet and similar Kom’rk Class Fighters/Transporters used by Death Watch, according to TCW: IV were build in secret by rogue elements within MandalMotors:

Those ships, including Pre’s own, were made for fight and transport, what means the main focus was the practicality, not luxury. Kom’rk Fighters were relative small but maneuverability and could carry around 28 people (4 crewmembers + 24 armored Death Watch troopers). Pre’s own ship didn’t stand out from other crafts.

We may only wonder how the rogue elements within MandalMotors managed to make at least three Kom’rk Fighters with armament in secret and who paid for those. Most likely Pre’s high social & political status helped with that, but as a spy working undercover he couldn’t do everything alone, right?

Like I said before, there is not much information who get the idea to made such luxury spaceship like Coroner thus I don’t cross out the chance that Coronet may be a “gift” from Kalevala (or Kalevala Spaceworks) for the new ruler. What could make an interesting parallel to Pre’s Gauntlet & Kom’rk Fighters, who also happens to be a gift from Death Watch’s supporters working in secret.

The Gauntlet (and other two Kom’rk Fighters) were important part of Death Watch’s daily life. Used as transport, air cover and part of camps, it served all warriors the same. We don’t have much informations how much maintaining Gauntlet alone costed, but at the same time, the show alone did not mention that Death Watch have problems with that. And fuel, machine maintenance or repair for sure cost something and Pre was most likely cut off from his potential bank accounts.

Despite the differences, both ships were a tools in Pre and Satine’s private crusades - against New Mandalorians or against violence and brutal past.

The names of ships alone speak a lot about their owners too. Coronet is a term for small or relatively simple crown, especially as worn by lesser royalty. The title of Duchess is related to aristocracy yet in terms of royalty, Duchess is lesser to status of Queen. Coronet then may have double meaning, on one hand the wealth of ship speaks for Satine’s own prestige & social status, on another the special ship is the best example of Kalevala’s technology achievement - a way to “crown” the pacifist (better) culture of New Mandalorian

In contrast, Gauntlet is related to fight. According to dictionary, the world alone represents part of armor (“a glove worn with medieval armor to protect the hand”) or an open challenge (as to combat, when used in phrases like “throw down the gauntlet”) or a severe trial (ordeal). All three fit Pre’s characterization & role in story, from wearing armor & respecting old ways to challenging Satine’s pacifist rule and actually going through trial(s) from season 2 (surviving failure(s), fighting with Maul for control over Mandalore/DW).

There is also once again the symbolism of light and darkness. Coronet is all about luxury and beauty (good / light), built as offical vessel, while Gauntlet was made in secret (in the “darkness”) and used for fight (war).