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rubiajieun · 1 year ago
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-Lilia Lost His Magic to Hatch Malleus Theory-
Now now, I KNOW THIS SOUNDS CRAZY AND IT IS BUT PLEASE HEAR ME OUT
⚠️WARNING ⚠️
SPOILER'S FOR CHALTER 7, TWST JP AND CHAPTER 7 PART 3
Do not proceed if you don't wish to be spoiled
So in the recent/not so recent update on Chapter 7/Book 7 we got quite a lot of info dumped on us one of them being Malleus age, His Parent's and the war that was happening
In short summary the dream/timeline the diashakle group are in is about 500+ year's ago when a war happened between a human kingdom and Briar Valley
But surprised surprise! Malleona (Malleus Mother) has been taking care of her egg and guess again? That right Malleus in real time is only in his 100! I forgot what age princely but it's in 100's
So making the timeline not make sense at all (but then again Silver baby this is a dream after all)
We get confirmation that Malleona was a Princess and is Malleus Grandmother Maleficia's Daughter and only child
So here is the theory that starts it
As we all know and if you haven't read my Crowley is Malleus Father in order for a fea egg to Hatch it needs the live of both parents and magic to hatch
Lilia reveal that Malleus father (His name is Levan or Revan) had gone missing while going to attempt to get into an agreement with the Silver Owl People
Whom all messengers from them have gone also missing
After leaving Malleona to try and stop this war he himself went missing and never returned
This is why Lilia travels because he has hopes that he is alive as he was childhood friends with both and was taken in by Maleficia herself (basically like an adopted brother to Malleona)
So with that being said and Levan being missing, there is only so much Malleona can do other than give her half of her love as she can't fill in what Malleus father's part and use as much magic as she can
With that being said again you can't just hatch an egg with just pure Magic it's really hard to do that because the child needs to know that it's loved in order to hatch
So at some point during this war it seems that Mal's mother passes away AKA she gets murdered
With no one not even his parents being able to hatch him I can see that his kingdom lost all hope maybe even his grandmother lost all hope that their only hope and sole heir may never hatch
Now this were Lilia comes in
What if while all hope is lost Lilia makes on final sacrifice
One final attempt to bring hope back to his home, the home if his beloved friends the Queen that even tho6she had no need to take him in she did and now lost her only daughter
Like the say "You can have everything in life, Sacrifice's need 5o be made in order to achieve"
An eye for and eye
A leg for a leg
A tooth or a tooth
And life for another magic that gives life
(magic is like breathing to fea giving that up is like suicide)
And so he used all his magic to hatch Malleus and maybe potentially had to learn to love Mal to hatch him
But if he didn't let's say he did it with just magic
Then that would mean the oh so great general Lilia
Has made a miracle happen!
A pure miracle
It was a sacrifice but at what coast?
He surely doesn't regret it he is sure his beloved friend Malleona is happy
He is sure his beloved friend Levan is also happy even though deep in his heart he wants him to still be alive
And so that could also explain Malleus and Maleficia's attachment to Lilia
Maybe this just why he is someone Maleficia trust absolutely
Because he gave her a miracle when all hope was lost
While for Malleus is because Lilia literally raised him and hatched him
Imagine baby Malleus in his egg receiving all the love and magic from his parents only for literal 500 to pass without it and no birth suddenly magic comes in and you get out
You would expect to see the parents that took care of you for while you were in the egg only to be met with no one
No one but one man
That man being the one that give Malleus egg magic so he could hatch
Like I said maybe this is the reason Lilia lost his magic
He lost was is like breathing to him in order to bring a life to this world
And no matter what he doesn't regret it heck he would probably do it all over again if he could
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sebek-zigbolt · 1 year ago
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i wanna whine I LOVE baul. I rlly love his tsundere ass. But I feel like his introduction to the story disconnects sebek from the rest of diasomnia kinda... Like the latest update he says he will protect what is important to him but like.... Isn't that malleus and lilia??? Ofc he loves his grandpa too but he has LITERALLY STATED that malleus and lilia are the ppl more important to him than ANYONE and like his behaviour prior to this chapter and in EVERY event absolutely supports that. Sebek felt like a character who wants to live up to his grandpas expectations but it is MALLEUS and lilia who are at the core of his life. His existence revolves around them. And his actions these last chapters when concerning lilia and malleus have been honestly so.. Mild for him??? Like ofc silver would worry abt lilia but sebek would too????? It's so weird bcause I feel like im watching a character assassination in slow motion lmao. Like u see maleona attacking lilia and silver steps in immediately but sebek just 🧍‍♂️. HELLO???? THE INSANE PERSON????? R U SURE?? idk...
I also feel like they are trying to make is so that sebek being half fae had no impact on him growing up bcause uuu but his grandpa loves him after all, and there has been no mention of it affecting his life in these chapters. We got mentions of fae vs human tensions and it was abt Lilia. It rlly feels like they just don't wanna deal with it and changed their mind. LIKE IM NOT INSANE RIGHT?? 90% of sebeks behaviour links back to him being half fae and his inferiority complex abt it?????????????CONSTANTLY having to prove himself. Needs to feel useful or he will explode. Never being strong enough. Like.... ok. It feels like instead of that, what we r getting is... racist grampa is the problem yup. thats it. Nothing to see here besides that, sebek is just bauls clone.
On one hand I didn't rlly expect for sebek to get any development this book but on the other it feels like they are erasing his Previous characterisation. To me. And I think they are kinda doing it with lilia too but the other way around. Like they over correct his character flaws by not mentioning them. We KNOW hes not that great at parenting for example, he trained silver and sebek like soldiers for a while before relaxing abt it, he is generally very rough, feeding baby silver from a Mug and stuff. He just thinks that a baby can handle getting lost in the woods. Doesnt't mean he doesnt love his kids!!!! But it's how he is!!! And we Completely ignore that this book. It feels so weird.
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masked-daydream · 1 year ago
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SPOILERS FOR CHAPTER 7 OF TWST!!!!
Why the hell did I think that Malleus's Mother's name is a ship name??
I keep reading it was Maleona but it was actually MALENOA!
😅
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brokenpuzzles · 10 months ago
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Hello! Welcome to the NRC System! This is a blog I made for my system! So here’s a little introduction!
Riley - The Host, she/they, MINOR.
Malleus Draconia - Fictive, he/him, adult
Lilia Vanrouge - Fictive, he/him, adult
Vil Schoenheit - Fictive, he/she, adult
Maleona Draconia - Fictive, she/her, adult
Floyd Leech - Fictive, he/they, minor
Jade Leech - Fictive, he/him, minor
Azul Ashengrotto - Fictive, he/they, minor
Rook Hunt - Fictive, he/they, adult
If you wish to speak to a certain alter, please just start your ask with ‘[Alter’s first name], [your ask]”
RP is allowed! Just keep in mind that these people are FICTIVES and are not the exact same as the in-game characters! However, they are aware of themselves in-game, so feel free to make references!
ABSOLUTELY NO NSFW!! It makes the Host extremely uncomfortable, so please do not do NSFW. Kisses and cuddles are fine, but nothing more.
Please do not bring up Malleus’s overblot, Lilia leaving the school, or anything to do with Malleus’s past. It upsets him greatly, and can cause discomfort and disorder in the system.
Aside from that, have fun and keep your asks respectful!<3
-Written by the Host
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noahaiden2008 · 1 year ago
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You had a lot of cool opinions. Thank you for your post. :) Well, you mentioned the parallel between Silver and the Knight of Dawn, who feel indebted to the person who welcomed them, but I also think there is a slight parallel between the Knight of Dawn and Lilia, as they were taken in by the royal family as orphans and became mighty warriors.
About Lilia and Levan, Maleona doesn't really specify what kind of love Lilia felt for Levan(Gossip half kills gossip, you know?), but considering the whole context, in addition to the fat that the screenwriter of Twisted Wonderland, Yana Toboso, possibly already worked with BL before (I don't remember where I saw this information and I don't have time to research if it's true or not, but I remember Give me a video of Kuroshijtsuji/Black Bulter to be quoted that before Black Butler the author had already made Bls, I don't know if the information is true), so I wouldn't doubt anything hahaha, but even if the love Mallenoa was referring to romantic, ended up just in a good friendship, even because now Levan is married to Mallenoa .I confess who would think If it was really something romantic, why do you think about the situation, Lilia would have liked two people who got married, and even took care of their son, the poor guy was in the Friendzone twice hahaha. In addition to from this it is already clear that Levan is passionate, since within the trio that he participated, both Lilia and Mallenoa liked him, being a mermaid can only be.
I was surprised you didn't quote about Mallenoa telling Lilia that he will love Malleus because he loves Levan and her.❤️
And I also doubt Levam is dead! I also only believe it when I see the corpse, although I really don't think he could be Crowley, I would find it very interesting if it were him. And even if not If so, I hope he's alive so Lilia can slap him in the face while screaming "You idiot! For all these years I thought you were dead...", And Malleus was going to meet his father too.
book 7 part 5 thoughts!!
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***THIS POST CONTAINS MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR BOOK 7 PART 5 OF THE MAIN STORY!!***
If you’d like to watch a rough part-by-part summarized translation, please check out this archived stream!
Please note: this is NOT meant to be a summary or a translation; these are only my initial thoughts on the events that unfold. There may be details overlooked or misunderstood in this post, so PLEASE do not use this as a translation.
Starting off strong with some lore on magic! Teleportation magic involves breaking oneself down and reconstructing elsewhere. If the distance from point A to point B is too large and/or the caster is in poor health, the magic may fail or be difficult to perform.
Hmmm... Lilia is reacting very emotionally to the situation, but it is Baul that is (mostly) rational and reminding Lilia to keep calm. I'd anticipate it being the other way around, so that's quite interesting.
HUH... Even Sebek is staying calmer here than Lilia is; Sebek recalls training with Lilia and how they were taught that they have to stay calm to think and plan effectively in tough situations. Ironic that the old Lilia was the type to go against the advice he would later give and instill in his pupils. Again, it goes to show how much he has changed since then.
AH, BAUL'S BEING A TSUNDERE AGAIN 🤡 He's telling the kids to stay behind because the situation has changed... "Don't foolishly discard the life Lilia-sama protected", "humans shouldn't be fighting alongside fae anyway", etc. (And, of course, Silver's the one to step up and tell him fae or human, it doesn't matter and he still owes Lilia his life all the time.) NOW'S NOT THE TIME TO TALK, GUYS... MALLEMOM'S GONNA BE GAME ENDED
Weird sounds downstairs? SILBEK KICK DOWN THE DOOR and we find some chefs in hiding. adhbasvfvuvfqeilfe;o THEY MISTAKE SILVER FOR THE DAWN KNIGHT... More sussy behavior implying the Dawn Knight must be his ancestor.
They ask for brooms to transport the injured faster. Silver's negotiation skills come in clutch again, he convinces the chefs to direct them to the brooms even though it would be helping the fae, the humans' enemies.
Not Sebek's stomach growling now of all times... NOT SEBEK DENYING IT SO MUCH (it's okay, they get pity and some food from the chefs!)
Found a room full of birds; they seem to be for transporting messages. Silver feeds them some of the bread they got from the chefs. Wow, Sebek's actually being sneaky/clever (?). He tells Silver he's loved by animals, so time to use that now so they can use the birds.
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AKHBBGSKUVYEQFBI NOT GRIM WANTING TO EAT THE BIRDS
Bleh, we have another time-gated, character-limited map segment. Silver and Sebek take up 2 of the 5 slots. Again, the cards' health does not regenerate unless you land on a special square. Luckily for us, there is only a single path forward rather than a larger, sprawling map.
NO KIDDING, THE BIRDS HELP THEM FIGHT THE SILVER OWLS... Literally they're swooping in and tugging on the knights' cape and stuff... the squirrels nibbled away at their catapults' rope too... chucking rocks at them... THE BIRDS POOPED ON THEIR ARMOR TOO???????? Imagine training your whole life to put your life on the line for your home country, only to be literally shat on and defeated by woodland creatures...
Lilia: I hate children. Also Lilia: *rushes into battle to protect the children and gives them head pats for a job well done and asks them to be safe*
Silver continues to be a Disney princess!! They find some horses tied up and he's like "let's free them". Sebek drops some club lore; Silver is one of the better students in Equestrian Club when it comes to soothing the horses. True Horse Girl at heart, huh??
Silver and Sebek are surprised that what they learned in school is actually helping the in a "real world" sense. Man, I wish that was true of irl high school education too...
The Silver Owls recruited mercenaries from other countries to help them seize Briar Country's resources??? The others pitch in because they live in fear of a dragon attacking them.
They're going to teleport into the castle, but they can't teleport out since they can't guarantee the safety of Tamago-sama... They're going to use the underground waterways to escape!
There's a mountain range that protects another castle of the royal family, Black Scale Castle. Malleus's mom is currently in an unprotected castle, Wild Rose.
Wow, what a peaceful vista straight out of Sleeping Beauty. I sure hope it doesn't become tainted by blood being spilt and bodies dropping or anything craaazy like that/j
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DAWN KNIGHT INCOMING???? Silver's ring starts??? Going off??? When he sees the Dawn Knight...
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Heinrich reveal too! He seems like just as much of a scumbag as all the rumors say he is (he wants a dragon to ride, tells the Dawn Knight he's only good for his swordsmenship, etc). BRO JUST STRAIGHT UP SAYS HE WANTS TO TAKE MALLEMOM'S EGG AND RAISE IT TO BE HIS STEED... 💀 WTF THAT'S SO DARK
This asshole reminds me of Jack Horner from Puss in Boots 2: The Last Wish, who is another irredeemably evil man with a small face and a generally grotesque design.
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Heinrich is after the castle and some very powerful magestone called "Princess's Glow"? Not sure, did not hear the second word well.
He's giving them 30 minutes to send the princess out for a one-on-one duel with the Dawn Knight. If she wins, they'll retreat (I DON'T BELIEVE THAT FOR ONE SECOND).
NOT THE CASUAL FAE RACISM... Heinrich calls Mallemom a "witch". If you'll remember!! In book 6, Lilia says that mages were once called witches, but implied that those terms are now outdated and considered derogatory.
The Dawn Knight is like Silver! He tries to tell Heinrich this isn't right, but Heinrich tells him that since his father took the Dawn Knight in as an orphan, the Dawn knight "owes" them. It's a twisted parallel to Silver and Lilia's relationship (because Silver says he feels like he "owes" Lilia and has to repay him).
Okay, so to review the family tree??? The king of the human faction is sick and they want the Princess's Glow to heal him. The king is the dad of Heinrich and Leah; the king would also later take in the Dawn Knight. Leah and the Dawn Knight are in love.
Malleus's mom's official name is "Meleanor" (a location name is written in English with this)i. The castle's halls really resemble those in Diasomnia dorm (I think it's a reused asset). (Now that I think about it??? Didn't they also reuse the VDC backstage background for the eastern fortress?)
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SHE'S SINGING???????? A lullaby for her baby, it seems. Bruh... Malleus sang like a line from this lullaby before he game-ended everyone with his UM... HE REMEMBERED HER SONG FROM INSIDE THE EGG SHELL??????????
MALLEMOM REVEAL AW YEAH (she starts zapping Lilia with lightning lol; she's mad at Lilia for showing up late to defend her and her egg) SHE'S THE HOT GOTH GF
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OMG EGG REVEAL TOO... UNBORN MALLEUS... (The egg looks like it has blot running down it too, which is insane)
ADBLIsfiablfa IT'S SO WEIRD SEEING HER SIMP ON MAIN, she says he knows her unborn child will grow up to be a beautiful man just like her husband... (Sebek is practically sobbing from happiness that he gets to witness Meleanor name Malleus.)
The ear shape is really coming back to bite them; Mallemom noticed them and now her anger is turning to our group. She forces us to kneel with magic... Jafar energy fr
"Princess Glow" is the green orb in Mallemom's staff!
Lilia tells some embarrassing stories of the princess's tomboyish youth; "And though you always scolded me, you never failed to join me in my mischief" -- Mallemom to Lilia
She agrees to duel the Dawn Knight while the others escape with her child... Now Mallemom and Lilia are fighting because Lilia refuses to follow through with her order.
NOOOOOOO SILVER JUMPED IN TO PROTECT LILIA FROM MALLEMOM'S LIGHTNING 😭 EVEN THOUGH HE KNOWS IT'S A DREAM, HE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE HIS DAD HURT
Lilia trauma time :)) "I can't lose both you (Meleanor) and Levan (Malleus's dad)".
IT'S LIKE WE THEORIZED, LADS. Mallemom says that if anything happens to her, then it's up to Lilia to help Malleus hatch with the POWER OF TRUE LOVE... BUT LILIA THINKS HE CAN'T HATCH IT BECAUSE HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND A PARENT'S LOVE
OH MY GOOOOOOD THE PIPING HOT TEA, MELEANOR SAID LILIA PROPOSED TO HER WHEN THEY WERE YOUNG... OVER 200 YEARS AGO
sdhbfbiyoaifofi Mallemom says that Lilia "also loves Levan" and that those two spent more time together than a "married couple". You could interpret this as Lilia being bisexual or just as them being really good friends, as Meleanor never specifies if Lilia “loves” Levan romantically.
Suddenly, Lilia's special card name makes sense! Lilia is the "Right General", and Levan is the "Left General".
The weather shifted according to Meleanor's anger. Like mother, like son... This woman also quotes Maleficent so much...
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OOOOH we get to watch a battle between Mallemom (dragon form) vs the Dawn Knight. Mallemom uses all null/cosmic magic, just like Dorm Uniform Malleus. The Dawn Knight uses light type null/cosmic magic just like Silver does too!
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Dawn Knight face reveal?! He's basically Silver copy-pasted but long blonde hair. Dude's really out here looking like a Sonic OC recolor/j
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The Dawn Knight also has a crown-like ring on a chain. It's an item that was given to him by guardian fairies when he was young; there is no other like it.
YASASHII... The Dawn Knight notices our group has the egg and tells them to run. He doesn't want Heinrich to get his hands on it either... Crowley, takes notes 😭
UHHHHH SILVER'S CRYING AND SHOUTING... I think he realized that he's descended from the Dawn Knight, serving on the faction that's brought so much harm to his loved ones and home country. "Am I family to the enemy?!" His denseness is truly to his detriment here.
Uh-oh, Silver's being pulled into the "darkness" of the dream, thinking it would be better to just stay here than face reality... He's losing hope, DOING THE THING HE FORESHADOWED LAST UPDATE... IF HE EVER FALLS INTO THE DARKNESS, THEN PLEASE PULL HIM OUT... (Another map segment with Silver required; you have to find your way around in the dark.)
400 years after conflict, the peace treaty was signed between fae and humans. Wild Rose Castle is now left in ruins; the rumors say it is haunted. The diurnal fae casted a spell on Wild Rose to keep humans away.
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HUH???? LILIA FOUND BABY SILVER IN THE ABANDONED WILD ROSE CASTLE?????
Uhhh so apparently after the war we saw, another conflict broke out for territory and the Silver Owls got their asses handed to them.
LILIA UNIQUE MAGIC REVEAL... HE CAN READ THE MEMORIES OF THINGS HE TOUCHES????? (Reminds me of "Dimensional Scream" from Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of TIme/Darkness/Sky!) "Far Cry Cradle" is the name! We also get the chant: "As if it were a day. Everywhere I go, it will be in a blink of an eye."
BABY SILVER?????
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Silver was magically put to sleep for hundreds of years by some small (guardian) fairies?!?!?!?!?!?!? Because conflicts were still going on and his parents wished for him to live in a world free of war. When Silver meets someone who "loves" him, he will wake up from his magic-induced slumber. NOW THE BABY IS AWAKE AND CRYING
... Wait. Doesn't that mean. Silver is technically older than Malleus... since Malleus is only 178 years old and Silver's been sleeping for like 400 years????? OTL SILVER ONII-SAN ERA??????
NOT (PAST) LILIA BEING TSUNDERE, he says he thinks the guardian fairies' magic is fading with time... he doesn't even consider that he'd ever love the baby...
"I'm not someone who deserves your love" - Silver, casually cuing all of our tears
Silver's hair was originally blonde; It became silver when he received a fairy's blessing (Lilia's). LILIA SAYS "May the Night bless you" and says that the day he found Silver is his new birthday. So the Dawn Knight has gold hair because it's blessed by a diurnal fae, but with silver hair like moonlight, Silver won't stand out in Briar Valley.
I CAN'T WITH LILIA, SILVER SAYS HE WAS NAMED THAT BECAUSE OF HIS HAIR COLOR IN A BIRTHDAY VIGNETTE... Yet here we see Lilia actually named him Silver as in silver moonlight to guide people in the darkness...
"Even if I have to give up my own life, I want to protect my child", that's a sentiment that both Lilia's princess and the Dawn Knight expressed. I think this kind of thinking probably helped Lilia put everything into perspective and better understand that humans and fae are actually very similar.
SILVER/LILIA HOME REVEAL, we're seeing some point later in time but before present day when Lilia is still raising baby Silver.
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Lilia is singing the same lullaby as what Meleanor sang for Malleus in the egg!! Malleus pays them a visit and still doesn't really seem to understand humans (HE SAYS SILVER LIKE A MONKEY????) but also helps watch baby Silver... He even hums his mom's lullaby for Silver, but cannot seem to remember where he heard the song before.
LILIA READS SILVER BEDTIME STORIES
Oh, Lilia's understanding humans and fae a little better (around the time Silver starts to eat pureed foods). Both human and fae babies cry and sleep, etc. BHFABIYFVQIQEFL hE'S FEEDING SILVER RAT MEAT???????? Malleus has to have the castle prepare baby food for them...
WAHHHHH THAT ACRON BRACELET LILIA TREASURES IS SOMETHING KID!SILVER MADE FOR HIM... Squirrels helped him gather the acorns and woodpeckers helped him string the acorns together. The acorn amulet is meant to bring Lilia a long, healthy, and happy life (something Silver was told by forest fae). Even as a kid... Silver was hoping for Lilia's health... and now that I think about it, the acorn amulet is like a representation of Lilia's own deteriorating health over time... OTL
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"I feel like I can live a thousand years with this (amulet)..." LILIA EVEN KEPT IT ALL THIS TIME AND CALLS IT HIS MOST PRECIOUS BELONGING... shUT UP, SHUT UP IM CRYING
ASKHBLIDIBIFIA WE'RE SEEING THE RAINING SCENE LILIA TOLD US ABOUT IN ONE OF HIS BIRTHDAY VIGNETTES???!?!?!?!????!? It's the day Silver realized he and Lilia aren't related by blood...
God, there are so many of the map portions... This time, Sebek is the required character!
The rest of the gang are transported to the darkness where Silver is wallowing?? Sebek sees some of his own memories which intertwin with Silver's (since Baul sometimes took bare of Silver or visited Lilia). It's also confirmed that Lilia went to Sebek's dad to ask for advice on how to raise Silver.
Back then, Baul asked Lilia to train Sebek since he's part human (and therefore "weak" in Baul's eyes). However, Baul still values his grandson and wants him to have a good education 🥺 (Sebek's older brother also graduated from NRC??)
Lilia tore up his invitation to NRC???? But it was his friend Levan who came to him with the invitation pieced back together and kept it safe for the future in case Lilia reconsidered. It seems like Levan really is a diplomat; he stresses the importance of humans coming to understand fae + vice versa, and how it's things like learning a common language that can help bridge these gaps.
Lilia confirms that Levan must have "become a star" by now BUT UNTIL I SEE A CORPSE I'M NOT BELIEVING IT
Sebek's trying to get through to Silver, who's slowly being swallowed by the darkness... HE UNVEILS HIS UM, "Living Bolt"!! "Thrust through the clouds, o' lightning!" It seems to summon a powerful strike of lightning, but I'm not entirely sure what it does because the visuals of the game are a little confusing??? (Like it shows a white silhouette of Sebek moving around, so it makes me think he can... control the lightning??? Or he... becomes lightning itself to move around??? DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT.) Sebek says he hasn't mastered it yet so maybe even he doesn't know what it can do.
With Sebek's UM, he's able to snap Silver out of it!
THE GIRLIES ARE FIGHTING... There's literally a battle between Silver and Sebek, which resolves with Sebek smacking some sense into Silver. Sebek calls him an idiot and tells him to stop saying he isn't loved, because it's rude of Silver to be this weak when Lilia raised him to be strong (ie "IT'S AN INSULT TO LILIA-SAMA", "IF HE SAW YOU BEING THIS PATHETIC HE'D BE SAD", etc). Way to go with your words of encouragement... 100/10 motivational speaker, Sebek.
Silver realizes that he has had Lilia's love and support all this time... "It's true love", Silver says. The true love that his guardian fairies said would wake him from his sleep... 😭I really appreciate how it was Silver who first snapped Sebek out of his dream-induced despair, and now Sebek is doing the same for Silver.
WAIT THAT'S IT?????? THAT'S THE UPDATE???? ?? ??? ? ????????? 🤡 TWST really said, "I'm coming for everyone's throat and I'm taking no prisoners" AND THEN DIPPED ON US AFTER DROPPING SO MANY BOMBSHELLS... This is just the fate of every book 7 main story update now, isn't it???!??????!?
asidoavyfqevofb I know a ton of really exciting and shocking reveals happened this time around, but while my mind is still racing to process everything... the one thing that sticks out to me is "Ace is the only one without a UM now". IT'S SO FUNNY HOW HE THOUGHT HE'D GET HIS UM BEFORE DEUCE BUT HE ACTUALLY ENDS UP BEING THE LAST OF THE ENTIRE MAIN CAST TO GET IT................. .. . . . .. ....... .. .. . .. ... . . . .. THERE IS SOME CRUEL, SICK IRONY HERE.
I pretty much said all my other thoughts as they cropped up along with the corresponding story beats!! But overall, I loved learning more about the characters and their shared history. Part 5 confirmed many theories, such as the Dawn Knight being related to Silver (and not his ancestor, but rather his actual dad), Silver being put under a sleeping curse that requires true love to break, how Lilia came to raise Silver, etc. It also recontexualizes lore we already knew, such as how Silver got his name, the Zigvolt family's involvement with Lilia, and how Lilia changed from his old self to his current self.
khbhasdsbkuavuofafabf I ALSO CAN'T BELIEVE LILIA X MALLEMOM IS A THING, THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOST SHOCKING REVEALS THIS ENTIRE UPDATE😭 All this time we were joking about Lilia x Mrs. Spade... turns out, Lilia was into someone else's mom... HE'S JUST INTO MOMS, I'M CALLING IT NOW/j
I'm surprised that we didn't get to catch up with the Shroud brothers whatsoever this time??? Not a single peep about Ortho (who has 'woken up and is actively working to help everyone) or even Idia (who is still stuck dreaming)... I really hope the next update addresses how Ignihyde is faring, cuz I miss them and want to know how they contribute to saving the day!!
As book 7 progresses, it progressively calls the image of a spinning wheel into my mind... This is the case especially for the flashback segments we see, which shows us how the various members of Diasomnia are related to each other, and, by extension, their other family members. Lilia is raising Silver, the baby of an old foe. Malleus is visiting Lilia, who is implied to have helped hatch him after his parents died and/or went missing. Lilia asks Sebek's dad for help raising Silver. Baul asks Lilia to help mentor his grandson, Sebek. It really harkens back to the "individually, we're threads on a spinning wheel, but we come together to make something far stronger" line that Lilia dropped at the end of book 6, proving that the spinning wheel and the threads of Fate within it are an important motif for book 7 🥺
I'm fine.
This is fine.
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It's not fine
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decayedhearts · 2 years ago
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wishlist 🔥🐲
Maleona AU in which Farena (or rather one of his higher ups) attacks/attempts to assassinate/almost kills (for a personal reason disguised as political) Lilia and it wakes such a wrath in Malleus that he declares war on the Sunset Savanna - or at least threatens to do so unless Farena agrees to hand over the culprit to be executed by the fae. Which Farena is not willing to do, but instead suggests he and Malleus have a fight to champion their people and avoid bloodshed. Violently dangerous magic battle ensues, Malleus turns into a dragon, Farena displays his unique magic which is in some ways diametrically opposite to Leona’s but just as, if not more powerful. (I keep thinking of the Merlin movie and the way he ends up binding the dragon with poison ivy.)
Ideally nobody dies but they’re both gravely injured and in the end Farena’s warriors step in to protect him - and Leona.. well, has to make a choice. (Or perhaps he had to make that choice before but still postponed it up until this moment.) He either stands with Malleus now and saves his life but turns his back on his family forever.. or he stands with his family and accepts Malleus death and (inevitable war with Briar Valley) 👀
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rubiajieun · 1 year ago
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CROWLEY IS MALLEUS FATHER THEORY/MY INTERPRETATION
⚠️WARNING ⚠️ SPOILER AHEAD CHAPTER 7 AND TWST JP
-again everyone has been theorizing this and at the end of the day you do not have to like this Theory again it's just a theory this does not mean it's Canon this is just based on information that's been given to us so if you do not want to be spoiled or you just don't like this Theory then do not read no one's forcing you to read
-ps this is very I mean VERY LONG
Okay so here is my explanation on the info before going with my theory interpretatiom
starts with the fact that Mal's father was like some kind of nobility from the valley of thorns and he obviously ended up marrying Mal's mother and he was in attendant of her's
He was childhood friends with Lilia and Mal's mother after a good while of a hundred years Mal's mother ends a pregnant with him and has him as an egg
Now here's the thing Lilia explains that for an order for a fae baby to hatch
He needs all of his parents love and Magic to be poured into his egg in order for him to hatch now here's where the complications come
The silver owls aka the army from another kingdom that basically invaded their territories and started stealing started to for some every time they would send a messenger the messenger would go missing for unknown reasons and basically most of the letters that would be sent would be asking them to please stop if they're stupid
Stupid actions because at the end of the day this isn't the land this isn't their home they shouldn't even be here doing all of this and basically asking them to please stop eventually they start getting problems within their tubes where they start losing the war so Mal's father whom from what Lilia told us Mal's father was a very kind man and a very peacemaker kind of guy so instead of sending Messengers like how they usually do who always end up missing he went
He went himself for the sake of being able to make peace for his wife and child but according to Lilia he never returned they searched and searched for him but never found him and this is why Lilia travels because he has hopes that he can still find him but this also indicates a really crucial and set point about Mal and that was the fact that basically after he went missing Mal's mother was basically left alone to try and hatch the child but because there was only so much she could have give from her love and Magic because obviously she was missing the part about Mal's father giving his own part of his magic and love Malleus hatching was basically delayed and eventually sometime probably throughout the war Mal's mother died and it's indicator that she was actually murdered with this and leaving melius with no other parents to hatch him his kingdom lost hope because they're only so heir would probably
Because they're so heir would never hatch and this is where people are theorizing that this is why Lilia is losing his magic/dying because he used all his magic to try and make him hatch and successfully did it and people think that because you need also love to hatch them maybe Lily had to learn to love in order for melius to hatch and it's also confirmed that Mal is only 100 and something years old and basically this is where the theory of Crowley being his father
-The Theory
So my theory and interpretation of this starts like this
And so then this also had me thinking about a potential background for Crowley if that were the case
So let's go back in time yada yada ya where Mal's parents were still alive
As we all know Maleona was married to Levan we don't really have much of an intake on how their relationship was but for me if it were me and the fact that they were childhood friends and nothing to each other for so long in my opinion I would guess that they loved each other very much like so so much
As a result Mal comes into the picture
Of course he hasn't hatched or anything but Maleona and Levan (Crowley) are doing their best and making sure that he hatches giving him all the love and Magic that they can but as you know there is an open war going on with the humans so let's just get the scenario in our head we all know that the man went missing so what if while they were all struggling you know they're people he decides you know out of the goodness of his heart why not try and make peace and fight alongside them he tells us obviously to his mother-in-law and she agrees because she trusts him
So then there we have it he has a letter to send them a message to please stop this war because there's no need to fight over something that already belongs to someone
Enough he is going there and helping out his people to try and negotiate and deliver the letter let's just say they trick him into believing that he actually can talk to the royal family that they could come into an agreement
But but here's the hitch they tell him he needs to go alone with nobodyguard nothing obviously the soldiers are like please your majesty don't go and everything and he ends up rejecting and tell them I'm sorry but I can't go if I can't have at least one of my people with me so obviously they don't take this well and maybe around the night they somehow end up kidnapping him
They bring him over to their castle and they still try to convince him that they brought him there to just talk and try to bring peace
So Crowley or Levan(I'm just gonna call him Crowley rn) really really wants to bring peace because he's just done with the war he is tired he doesn't want more of his people to die get injured he wants to keep his wife and son that's about to be born and safe he wants them safe he wants his whole family his kingdom his people safe so he decides okay let's try and go along with this
The longer he stays there trying to talk with the King and everything like they have a small conversations with them they tell him that they're busy and that they have things to do the more anxious he gets them maybe they're not keeping their part of the deal
Fast forward Crowley is still trying to negotiate and talk with the king and queen I feel like he most likely try to talk with the King more he sees that there's no improvement so he decides well "fuck it" it's obvious that these type of humans won't listen so let's make them listen and probably decides to somehow try and get out
But he can't because they're using a special type of iron cuff to keep him there so that he can't use his magic so that he can't use his strength
He's desperate he wants to go back he knows that this was a trap all along that he needs to return to his wife and son he needs to return to his mother-in-law and his people
So I missed of all this is going on he's trying his hardest to get out to finally go suddenly he gets the news that his wife passed away now just imagine being in his shoes at that moment
Finding out your wife is dead and knowing that she was with your son makes you start thinking what happened to my son? is he alive? is he dead? how was my wife killed she is a strong woman how could these humans take her life?
And desperation to know he's somehow magically breaks the iron cuffs and finally teleports away he is in the Briar Forest and he's like desperately trying to get home get to know what happened to his wife and son
He's barely getting there and he sees a bunch of candles a bunch of lights as a memorial for his wife and then he hears people talking about how at this point Malleus egg won't hatch because he doesn't have both parents he doesn't have one of the parents love and Magic to help him
At this point you could have guessed that maybe at that moment Crowley lost all hope his wife is gone without his wife he doesn't know if he can actually be able to see his son what if he returns and then they label him as a traitor or what if worse they label him as the one that killed her you know there's so many scenarios that could happen
And so very likely at that point it's like something snapped and curly the kind and gentle him that his wife fell in love with somehow just ends up burning himself deep into his heart to the point that It can't return he leaves cuz he knows that what's the point in returning when there's a high chance they're going to be labeled as a traitor by your own people even though they know you very well
So that point let's pretend that Crowley finds Sage Island and then let's pretend for a moment Sage island is just an island it has no people nothing it's literally a Dead Island
So let's pretend that he stays there staring at the darkness seeing the days go by and by waiting for his death to come because all he wants is to die and be with his wife again whom he loved more than anything
That is until he suddenly gets an idea since humans and Fae and all other races don't get along
He then maybe thought "Hmmm..... Maybe they're truly is a way to bring peace to the world and stop this catastrophe of blood and wars"
So then he decides what do all these all races have in common humans, merfolk, fea ect
They all have in a way magic so why not create a school where the younger future generations are going to come where they can learn to live in unity that way they can somehow prevent these future wars and events from happening
There they will be based off the supposed great seven the great seven the great people of back then in time where their soul will will be put into a dorm and once that is done they will be leaving you know the normal magic school life but in the process of living that magic school life they will learn how to live in unity
And maybe maybe maybe let's pretend that this at first works but then another school comes and then starts causing this unraveling rivalry that ends up becoming unhealthy towards his students
So then let's add a bit more to this what if at this point in life the things start going downhill people aren't getting along and everything until one day something happens
One day suddenly at one of the entrance ceremonies a student appears a student from another world a student that doesn't belong here
What if that student was the original very first "Yuu"
Fascinated by this person that's from another world Crowley starts to do investigation and maybe throughout the investigation he found out that maybe through portals and mirrors maybe he can go back in time or go to another dimension or world and maybe save potentially his wife
So he decides how can this happen? how can you do this? He tries to look for a solution because you would need very very much amounts of magic in order to do this so he starts researching and finds out about Overbolt
And so Crowley says oh right then I'll create the ultimate Overbolt and phantoms that can destroy the universe when they can destroy the whole Twisted Wonderland
So then Crowley creates Grim as the phantom but as he is about to do this he has everything ready he has the stones he's ready to go he finds out that no one can't really overbought unless they have a a vessel that I can use then the Overbolt won't really work so then maybe he starts thinking who can he use as a vessel? who doesn't have magic but can still be used as a vessel?
I'm pretty sure that this moment you're probably getting the head of what I'm getting at
The vessel is Yuu
So maybe the original Yuu he tried to use as a vessel for Grim
But his plan failed miserably and he ended up destroying what he worked so hard to create in order to create peace and as a result of that he also ended up destroying the whole world of Twisted Wonderland
So then he wonders can he just turn back time? Turn back time so that history won't repeat itself from his mistakes he won't remember what he did but he hopes that you who was meant to be the original vessel and the one that was able to stop all the other Overbolt be able to help him it's like a cry for help for the time travel Theory
So in his last attempts to make everything right he turns back time sacrificing his first life in the first timeline
Now then here's where things get a little bit fuzzy
There are many alternate timelines where we obviously have different Yuu's that were chosen to be the one like Yuuken,Yuuya, Yuuka,Yuuta, and Yuu all the others that have come before them all have some house failed now very likely at this point probably still does not remember the fact that he had turned back to him the fact that he had done this mistake the fact that he is still doing it
So he decides why not bring the original?
So we Yuu the original return and this is why we're having the dreams this is why we're having all these flashbacks it's because we've already been through we already have done it
And now this is the final timeline this is the final time that Crowley is going to turn back time in order to stop something that he ended up creating
Yuu is the final key that Grim's been waiting for as much as Yuu is the one that can save Malleus, Crowley and Twisted Wonderland
Why?
Because they are Yuu the person from another world
But this is my for what I have I'm still rewriting I'm still re-editing everything
But anyways But I would also like to add this
Why would Malleus go to a school when he already learned everything?
Why would he get an invitation in the first place?
Because he wanted to be near his son,only if it was just from a "principle" distance And I feel like this is why he mostly lets him do what he wants because he feels he isn't worthy to be a parent who caused the death of his wife
He wanted to be near him without having a chance of being recognize and how batter to do that then to enroll at your school?
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askyuuandco · 1 year ago
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Lilia: before your Marzanna had that 'accident' she bopped her on the head good. Maleona could never really stand up to her due to Marzanna being older and stronger I also got hit on the head.... UmU'///
(@ask-the-twst-girls) Scylla: Hey Yuu, I'm packed! When do we leave? :D
Yuu: we leave now and why are you packed? >.>
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mangacupcake · 1 year ago
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My legit only complain with this theory is how tf did some basic ass bitch like Crowley score the delux goth bratz that���s Mallues mamma
Like your telling me this bitch had the audacity to leave for milk and not come back??? Even IF he had amnesia the fact Lilia isn’t beating his memory back is crime to his adopted sister and I’m sure was this would’ve been a legit conversation between Lilia and Maleona
Lilia: HE IS NOT THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE!!! HE IS LITERALLY JUST A GUY!!! HIT HIM WITH YOUR CARRIAGE(Car)
@adrianasunderworld @writing-heiress @the-weirdos-mind @nproduction626
Have you heard of the "Crowley is Malleus' dad" theory going around? Where Prince Levan (or whatever his name is) didn't actually die and just went out to get some milk and is now known as Dire Crowley, the silly man? The implications of that theory is absolutely hilarious when you think about it
hold on, we can figure this out, we just need LISTS
PROS THAT CROWLEY IS SECRETLY REVAAN/LEVAN/LAVERNE/WHATEVER:
unspecified fae of some kind, with similar coloring to Mal
the animal masks are apparently a Briar Valley thing
has some kind of big blackmailable secret that was alluded to in episode 4, and then as far as I know never brought up again
(unless this was just Azul bullshitting, which is extremely possible)
based on Diablo, which...maybe means something?
has canonically worn Dad Shorts
CONS:
(gestures to Crowley's entire personality)
NO LISTEN Revaan was the guy they sent off on diplomatic missions and to take care of delicate political situations, and...look, I love this dweeb, but would you trust Crowley to be in charge of negotiating your war treaties
despite my brain insisting on reading his name as "Raven", Revaan's title does imply that he was also a dragon (or super into longan berries, I'm not ruling that out)
currently unclear why Lilia "my closest friend Revaan...he is no longer with us...I used to make fun of him for being kind of a priss about eating jerky..." Vanrouge has somehow not noticed or said anything
Malleus' Aloof Anime ~Aristocrat~ vibe had to come from somewhere, and by all accounts it was NOT his mom's side of the family
???:
turns into a bird in the opening, I don't know if that means anything but it's kinda cool, I guess
all that aside, if Malleus and Yuu are any indication, then the Draconias have...questionable taste in their social choices. so anything is possible!
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