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kainebell · 1 year ago
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ohhhh my god you think Valax is a “half-assed imitation” of Aerin? You think she “couldn’t be a bigger Aerin wannabe if she tried”? Should we tell everyone? Should we throw a party? Should we invite Andrew Shvarts?
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boobchuy · 3 years ago
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Actually wait no I want you to go insane. If Anne gets transported to wandersong where would she end up where would the other girls end up what part would they play in the main story does amphibia still exist?? Anyways. Here’s some more Anne wandersongs for motivation (she’s always sitting down when I take screenshots)
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YOU WANT TO KILL ME IS WHAT U WANT TO DO. U EVIL EVIL EVIL MONSTER....
but anyways
the idea i had when u sent that earlier ask was anne accidentally getting to wandersong at like. the s3b point??? instead of getting to amphibia she gets stuck to another world. how awesome is that lol. (im just kidding i dont think i have the mental capacity to think about that kinda au. think of the emotional turmoil. im a bully but even mental bullying gets exhausting sometimes besides i think physical comedy is underrated ANYWAY)
so a setting where the girls end up in wandersong instead of amphibia would be fun :]]]
because. i dont have any other idea on what to do. ill just *shrugs* and put the main three of each together. so like, marcy w kiwi, anne w miriam, and sasha w audrey
i think itd be super fucking funny to see wandersong trio fumble around w these kids that they had to adopt for some reason. idk.
marcy, still on that sort of escapism mentality, decides to help kiwi, and kiwi. lets her do it and promises to help her get home, bc of course they do. (i do not know how to do the reveal of marcy having the intention of wanting to go here, too early to be thinking complicated thoughts abt this) i like to think that like... she eventually realizes how real this is thanks to kiwi being so genuine all the time.
anne ends up landing face first on a pile of leaves near delphi <3 grandma saphy finds her <3 miriam absolutely does not like her <3 kiwi goes 'aw you guys get along so well :D' and miriam goes 'i will shoot you with lightning.' and kiwi 'D:' miriam begrudgingly lets anne tag along w the coaxing of grandma saphy. and since kiwi has their own 'Annoying' child. might as well
NOW. SASHA. SASHA W AUDREY. SASHA W AUDREY. idk if this duo would be a ticking time bomb or the funniest duo in hell but like. its. complicated. i dont know how the FUCK it would work when all three of them eventually cross paths. but the only reason why audrey lets sasha stay is thanks to eyala saying that so long as the three of them are here they cant let the end of the world happen. some sort of paradoxical time thing??? idk im making this up. it would be really nice. if. these two see similar things to each other, and maybe, they grow close. but also like. the possibility of it blowing up on their faces is just as likely so im crying now
GOD. wandersong makes me go insane how can you do this to me.
I WANTED TO DRAW IT REALLY BADLY SO NOW I HAVE THESE SCRIBBLES TOO. man
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hope ur happy
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mokutone · 4 years ago
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yo i would love to hear some of ur trans yam headcanons :) (also ps ur art is breathtaking and whenever i see it reblogged on my dash i always come here anyway to read ur tags bc they r so! good!)
thank u 🥺🥺🥺 god im sorry this has been sitting in my inbox for a couple days ksdjghsdkjgh not only have i got a LOT of thoughts to put here (this is only a selection of the bigger thoughts skdjghsdkjhg) i was also super busy the past few days!!!! ty for ur patience, ur compliments, and for inviting me to ramble abt my favorite guy!
maybe the one constant in all trans people is just like. our decision to intentionally and purposefully create ourselves, to forced into an identity by outside forces and to turn away from it in search of something else, and that’s ultimately what makes captain yamato read as a trans character to me! He goes through so many identities, and they are meaningful to him, but you can also clearly tell that he’s searching for something that really fits him.
I don’t really have a lot of firm thoughts on what his specific identity would be, I’ve seen some great nonbinary yams, some lovely genderfluid yams, trans guy yams, there’s a great variety and i delight in them all! 
I tend to imagine him as transmasculine and nonbinary but male aligned (which means he’d feel at least a partial connection to or comfort with masculinity) and while there are a bunch of labels for this experience of gender (demiboy, bigender, etc etc) i don’t see him as somebody who would use any specific labels, I feel like he’d keep his own experience of his gender fairly private! He’d prefer and be fine with masculine-coded terms of address, and happy enough passing as a guy.
AHH and on names...
I think Kinoe is the only name that I really see as like. a genuine deadname. It’s a name that means “The First” to my understanding, and so like, probably refers to him having the genetics of the first. Therefore, it’s kind of. literally a name referring to him as his biology...boy thats as deadname as it gets, huh? kill that shit and also danzō
Tenzō is also a name thats given to him, but to my understanding (all I know about the anbu arc is picked up thru osmosis lol) it’s a name that’s given to him twice, with affection. Once from Yukimi, who sees him as her brother (not a vessel for the first hokage’s powers, probably for the first time ever—even if it’s still another person’s name) He takes the name, gladly! Unfortunately danzō. anyway,
Later, when he starts to introduce himself to the non-root Anbu as Kinoe, Kakashi cuts him off and names him to the anbu as Tenzō. To my understanding: it’s a name at rest, not a name for one singular mission, but a name for his entire time in Anbu. It’s the name he keeps the longest. Again, it’s a name that’s given to him to him by somebody else, but it’s one that is given with the intention to free him of Kinoe, and all that Kinoe had to be. 
(A note on him getting annoyed with Kakashi for calling him Tenzō in main-plot:
Most of this is of course based off of personal experience, but I find it hard to believe that he would actively dislike Tenzō as a name since it was given with such sweet intentions—most of my names have been gifts, and the only one I’ve actively taken out of rotation has been bc i cannot stand the person who used it, and the way it was used, and while Anbu was certainly bad for Yamato...I don’t think it was quite that bad. I think him telling Kakashi to stop calling him Tenzō has more to do with the use of it where it doesn’t belong—for example, while it’s not exactly a name, I am happy to be called “mokutone” here, and you may notice my friends calling me by another name, but if any of those friends called me mokutone in DMs, I would be bothered by that.)
Yamato starts off as an empty codename, given to him for the purposes of his team 7 mission by the Hokage, but I think it gets such a loving and warm association from just...using out in the sunlight, with these kids that he comes to think so fondly of (he’s such a dad. god. he’s such a fucking dad) and with the friends he makes going out drinking and actually having time to socialize—and that means a lot! I think Yamato is probably the name which becomes most meaningful and like a home to him by the end of the series. This is the active name, the name where he is most himself. It’s vital for him to have that space to grow into! 
But that said, I personally feel like, if he were to continue beyond the edges of the story, this would not be the final name he bears. He’s probably well aware that a single name cannot contain who he is, or who he wants to be, and while being Given a name can be a beautiful thing (like i said, most of my names are gifts! i treasure them.) I think that, for his character arc, I would like him to name himself at some point. Even if it’s a name that only exists for private spaces, I want him to complete that self determination, to at least try it out, even if ultimately Yamato is the name everyone else will know him by.
Physical Transition Stuff
i will confess i hurt to imagine these shinobi binding 😭😭 even if an individual is binding safely (well made binder, no more than 8 hours, AND No Physically Intense Activity) they stand to risk hurting themself! In real life we gotta balance out the physical pain and the pain of dysphoria, but this is naruto and I’m Gonna Play Some Headcanon Games!
If chakra is both a kind of spiritual energy as well as directly connected to the body (as we learned in the hyūga fight) then it stands to reason that by manipulating ones own chakra, they can manipulate the body, or at least the way the body changes (such as naruto’s healing factor) 
This probably is not the safest thing to do unless you’re a mednin or following the directions of one, LMAO
The second the hell of puberty started up for Tenzō he tried to hold it back by sheer force of willpower + chakra manipulation alone 
but, manually controlling one��s chakra is like trying to prevent a stream from flowing with your hands alone, which is to say: an exhausting uphill battle.
 He’d probably only be doing it on his down time and not on a mission, but even still the most I bet he could make it doing that without getting figured out is two months.
Luckily blockers are readily available, Tenzō just had no idea and, gender being a private experience for him, was trying to handle the whole thing entirely on his own. Soon after attempting to self-regulate hormones him-fucking-self like a very valid but desperate fool, he gets an appointment, gets a prescription, and can chill out and not have to be as hellishly aware of his body constantly.
 Konoha mednin will say trans rights even if the village itself is garbage, this series is so god damn weird already, nobody can tell me a ninja taking hormones is somehow weirder than a ninja taking his dead best friends genetic superpower eye.
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TWO WEEKS, THREE SPARS, AND ONE VERY EMOTIONALLY DRAINING CONVERSATION LATER:
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u might think kakashi is passing him a water bottle and they both look so exhausted bc its post spar but no. physically theyre fine, but the emotional toll of having to talk about something either of them care at all about? miracle they survived.
#lesbians4tenten#Tenzō#yamato#headcanons#kakashi says that so heavily bc both of them hate going to the hospital but blood tests are necessary for HRT usually#also kakashi is definitely trans as well. i have less headcanons about that bc i see him as like. Even More Private than yamato#(he hides 3/4 of his face. trans icon. also personal privacy icon.)#so like skdjghdskjhg him getting involved is not a moment of Concerned Cis Meddling but like. 'ghghhg this is bad. i gotta step in'#i hc that like he was one of those kids that by the time he was four he was like hey dad im a boy and sakumo was like. fuck ok!#i guess i got a son now!#yamato just did not think about it much#also while i see him having long hair as inherently him repressing his identity it has nothing to do with long hair being 'feminine'#esp bc most of the older men in naruto have long hair. sakumo j*raiya orochimaru madara the whole hyūga clan of men#but instead much more to do with. him repressing being tenzō in order to be kinoe for danzō#and if hashirama had long hair. and all he is is a weapon for hashiramas power to be used through. he too will have long hair.#its also why i wont draw yamato with long hair. while he is handsome with long hair...and an argument COULD be made for him reclaiming it#i feel like aesthetically it represents a return to a relationship he had with his body and with the idea of hashirama#that i am not interested in exploring#perhaps in sage mode it goes very long. and then he has a friend cut it off for him every time#that i could draw#ANYWAY I think everyone should have as many names as they want. you want to be called something? that's your name now congratulations#trans? cis? not sure? doesn't matter the world is your oyster and you can be called anything you want#if people dont respect that theyre jealous and being rude af lmao#image desc in alt text#for all thats worth
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yijae · 4 years ago
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hello!!! i’m chey and before i introduce you all to my boy yijae, i would first like to let it be known that the only form of animal crossing i have ever played is pocket camp </3 but i watch the hell out of island tours on yt so i was so excited to see this rp in the tags! you can find yijae’s profile here and his plots here and.... a mess under the cut but i’ll call it an intro
first of all:  no, his name is not actually yijae. it’s a play on his name because another romanization of the surname lee is yi, so it’s his surname + the second syllable of his given name. might refer to him as this in threads, might not, but it’s his main nickname that his friends prob use with him! he likes it a lot.
the youngest of three. was really young when he lost his parents, doesn’t have any solid memories of them so he kind of views his siblings as half-siblings, half-parents.
endured a lot of people telling him that he was lucky to have siblings to look after him and needed to behave well, show appreciation, not give them a hard time. most people who said that meant well, but it bothered him a lot bc that’s like telling a kid they can’t get upset Ever because they’re lucky someone is raising them.
anyway it resulted in him being an ass-kisser as a kid, didn’t want to give anyone (esp his siblings) a reason to view him as a nuisance / pest
developed really, really good people skills bc he was constantly looking for ways to make himself useful / valuable in some way, felt like he had to prove his worth. genuinely very social, likes people a lot so it’s whatever, really. he probably would’ve ended up developing good people skills regardless
he does have a rly bad temper tho...... beware
also has anxiety and a lot of his symptoms are the lesser understood ones (w/ the main one being irritability/anger), so mix that with his naturally short temper and he do b causing scenes and hurting feelings sometimes
literally always seen carrying some kind of bottle w/ water in it because once he starts getting overwhelmed, he starts getting Hot and it’s just.... handy to have water at his disposal whenever he needs it yk
most of the time, he’s pretty well-put together and very very smiley!!! considered the face of able siblings’ clothing shop bc he greets each and every customer with a smile. always available to answer questions, give recommendations, relay messages to his siblings or just chat! not really all that skilled when it comes to sewing or any other skills directly related to clothes (which is partially why customer service is his main duty) but if u’re in a rush, he’ll try really hard
pretty much the only thing that can make him lose his cool w/ customers is if you come in and start talkin shit about any of the items
values the store a lot, but also kind of feels like he carries more than his fair share of the weight. definitely not true LMAO but that belief makes him get annoyed w/ his siblings sometimes
if you ever come into the store at the wrong moment and find him throwing a fit / fighting with his sibling, no you didn’t <3
keeps a sketchbook full of clothing ideas. ofc he’ll never make any of ‘em because he’s not quite that crafty, but he shares them with his siblings / with other store employees to see if they’re up to the challenge. collects lots of different fashion magazines to keep up with trends or just to look at bc he thinks fashion’s neat
if he’s not @ the store, he’s probably riding his bike around either one of the islands. enjoys bike rides a ton, likes to feel the wind in his hair and nonchalantly see what’s going on outside of the shop (aka he’s nosy)
fun, but also kind of flaky??? like he’s the guy who will Definitely go to that party with you on short notice but will also call out of plans you made with him 6 months ago
sometimes he goes mia for a couple days, always has some really dumb explanation like “i was hunting for crabs and i lost track of time” or “i was attending a 4-day clown seminar” or “i was camping with my boy, bigfoot” but really he’s just been laying in his bed and trying to re-energize. it b that way sometimes
speaking of crabs... he likes them a lot! thinks they’re groovy lil’ things. ticket into his heart? crab-hunting with him!!!! he doesn’t disturb them too much, he just likes to dig them out of the sand and look at them for a minute, then let them go. he thinks they’re super funny-looking so sometimes he just... laughs his ass off as they scuttle away. some people who have witnessed this have nicknamed him The Crab Bully, but he doesn’t have any bad intentions. it’s just entertaining for him
wears glasses most of the time bc his sight is terrible. could wear contacts, yeah, but he has chronically dry eyes and artificial tears only go So Far! aka it’s more comfy to wear glasses even if they make his face look even rounder than it already is
has a slight lisp. very very slight. mainly when he has to pronounce s/th or l/r... skz stans you know what i’m talking about
fucks with his hair a lot. kind of a comfort thing, kind of a fashion thing. it’s dark blue atm, but it changes pretty frequently. he does it himself, too, so you already know his hair is fried to HELLLLLL
really social, but also might ghost you for three weeks and then resume the convo as if he never left. knows he looks like the pleading emoji (god knows he’s been told enough times) so he uses his cuteness to his advantage when he knows he’s been actin like a dirtbag. also might send funny animal vids to ease his way back into ur life
when i say he’s really social, i mean he’s really social. will talk to anyone and everyone. make eye contact with him for half a second On Accident and oh, no, here he goes. very interested in other people, wants to know everything you’re willing to share. depending on the person, this can either be really comforting or really overwhelming. u think u want him to shut up but then he shuts up and it’s like damn..... why isn’t yijae talking. that’s weird
idk... i feel like i’m leaving out some really important info but this is all i’ve got for now. feel free to ask me if there’s anything else you wanna know about him!
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*This is absolutely a fic promotion, but plz hear me out on the discourse part too
So, self inserts and original characters, the worst fanfic catgeory (fanfiction.net literally says that in one of its fic groupings, and I'm pretty sure the number of views on any fanfic website says the same).
TLDR- Yes, I agree that this stereotype carries truth, but I do think SIs and OCs have more potential to be explored, and the stigma surrounding these labels is blocking that. And oh god I just want to know so badly if this is the deal with the work I'm currently writing or if I genuinely just can't write well.
The longer version- (this was written quite late into the night/ I'm in Singapore/, and might not be so well organized, I apologize for that.)
To what extent is this stigma "justified"? I mostly use AO3 for reading fics, and when I see the OC/SI tag, the thing is....I came to look for fics about canon characters and might not have the wish to invest my time in taking in a new character. I understand that most people who read fanfiction would feel the same. This, I think, is more or less justified. If you came to look for a certain canon character/relationship, and you don't want to get invested in any OCs, then of course the OC/SI tag isn't for you.
But... I think that's about it. Bcs here's the thing,
1. Using the OC/SI format does NOT automatically make the fic worse in quality. Hell, I'm not even sure if the statistical "fact" that these tags generate the worst fics is true. Judging from what I've read in the tma fandom and my other past fandoms, the stuff with OC/SI isn't inherently worse or better than the rest of the fics. There are ones that are pretty normal in writing quality, and the ones where the prose is rly good, others where plot design stands out etc. Of course, there is a lot of wish fulfillment and the like, but... there's also a lot of that in fics that write about canon characters.
2. I can't really say whether a wish fulfillment "I just want to write cool scenes/fluff" fic is better or worse than a more serious fic that explores some characterization or plot point. I think stories (all stories, books, fanfic, myths, everything) exist to entertain us and make us feel things. I am not sure if writing a feel good story is any less meaningful than writing a story that brings people "deeper" thoughts and makes them feel good in some other way. And this isn't even the issue at hand, because fundamentally, writing an OC/SI or not doesn't determine what the content is about. I agree that a larger proportion of OC/SI fics tend to be more on the lighthearted side, but... so is most of the content consumed in the other tags. Readers don't seem to have a problem with feel good stories/fix it fics etc when there is no OC or SI, so I don't see why that type of fic paired with an OC/SI should be considered any less "meaningful".
3. Guys/gals, what is an OC/SI?
Yes, it is very personal, and it is very wish fulfillment, but... isn't that like a common literature thing...like in general? Look at the works that "real writers" publish, from contemporary to the classics, which writer doesn't write about themselves? Like, just off the top of my head, Les Miserables, Marius? Um, Dante's Inferno? (and that guy did not self insert into some random thing he straightup went for the Christian Canon😂 used his real name too, so Jonny I guess if you feel awkward about your MCs name you can think of Dante//Jk). But seriously, self insert and wish fulfillment is a big part of literature itself, and while there are things to be said about these tropes, if people don't have that much of a problem with them in other literature, I don't see why fanfic OC/SIs shouldn't be treated the same.
4. in relation to the last point. More specifically...
I do think that a lot of fanfiction which write about the original characters are also OC/SIs to different extents. I've read fics that depict pairings where the author and readers project heavily onto one (or more) of the characters. I've read stuff where the author uses a minor character to explore the established world building/character dynamics and it's clear that it's an SI but with the appearance of being a canon character (and yes it gets tons more views than one that's written as SI). How do I know this? Because I am one of those readers who project onto those characters, and I know why I read those fics, I know why I like them. It's because I can self insert, and feel like I am part of the story, part of the world. Isn't that something most people want to do? I mean, Universal Studios? Specific franchise themed museums? COSPLAY??? Of course that's not all there is to engaging with a story, but what's the shame in wanting to be a part of an already established world building, or want to love a wonderfully designed character? (slight tangent, but if u feel like it's bcs ur not as interesting/cool as the story's world or other characters appear to be then I can tell you with certainty that's not true. You are very interesting and cool and absolutely deserve to be part of a fantasy world.) Isn't that a big part of why "real literature" is written and read as well? So... what's the problem with being like, okay, I'm just gonna insert myself into the world now, through this original character? Of course, I'm not asking for people who prefer to write strictly in canon characters to change that. What I mean to say is, writing it in the form of an OC/SI, doesn't make it a lot different from other fics, or hell, from classic literature even.
I think a potential problem might be the feeling that you are taking too much creative liberty with something that is established canon, by having your own character directly interact with it. But, um, can't the same thing be said if you take a canon character, and then proceed to project heavily onto them? Like, a big part of why I don't feel comfortable writing just canon characters is that I know I'm clearly projecting and it feels awkward to rewrite an already established character to explore my own thoughts/desires. I would rather just straightup design a new character. (this is all just personal feelings, I haven't thought enough about this to make any kind of argument here. And of course, the main reason is I can't trust myself to write canon characters that don't ooc in some way so having one as my protag might kill me with my own awkwardness. )
5. the potential.
Now this is looking far ahead because I'm not sure how much our current system for distribution of knowledge & copyright can allow it. But damn. The OC/SI thing has a lot of potential. There is one thing that makes it different from writing in canon characters, and that is the way it opens up a clear space for you to add your own experience into the story. When exploring your own world view through the lense of an already established world, or vice versa, so much can be revealed about both, perhaps even bringing to light aspects of the narrative the author hadn't previously seen. We all know this feeling, it's when we ramble on about one of our stories or worlds to a friend, and they point something out, and we're like ooooh that makes a lot of sense but I hadn't thought about it before. Yea, like those moments. Stories are generally made more interesting by their interaction with many different perspectives/experiences. With OC/SI it straightup allows you to be like, okay, I'm going to engage my own experience with this fictional world/character now. I mean, isnt that also a large part of how fanfics work in general? Readers/writers bouncing symbols and experiences off each other in the form of stories? Reading about the various interpretations of canon stuff? Whats the problem with tagging it as it is? I'm just thinking about the fics that could have been written as OC/SI and explored the story in some fascinating way which weren't written at all or were discontinued bcs the number of views discouraged those authors. (I feel that with my current work as well, though I have already written half of it and the remaining half is too juicy to give up so I'll probably be completing it)
6. conclusion, sorta
I guess what I want for OC/SO fics is just the same treatment as everything else. Saw it in the tags you were searching for? Look at the teaser. Do you find it interesting? No, then very well. Yes, then click in and take a look. Do you like the writing style? Are you getting into the narrative?... etc. You know, like, same standards you would have for any other kind of fic. Not feeling like you want to read about a new character? Cool, no problem at all, click away. But I do not think that the current difference in number of views is just based on whether readers are interested in reading about a new character or not. In fact, that's what I want it to be. Show me that "true" difference, the one without the stigma behind it, because, as the same goes for every kind of stigmatized community, you're not receiving the proportionate amount of positive feedback, but what's worse is you can't even trust the criticism you receive. If no one engages, or someone gives a negative feedback, how am I supposed to know if it's because my writing is bad? or my teaser wasn't interesting? or my character was badly written/designed? Or if it was to a certain extent, bcs of the stigma? I do want criticism, of course I do, it's the first step to every improvement, and I would love it if I could get feedback that I can trust. (and this brings us to the truely "oppressed" community of the fanfic world, the people who write very good but cant write interesting teasers//jk)
7. the entirely skippable straw man rant part, also the expression of my love for The Magnus Archives.
some straw man: if you like writing your own characters so much, why not just write your own story entirely? and publish it?
You think I'm not annoyed about that? Here's the thing, I LIKE THIS WORLD I READ FROM THIS BOOK/SOME OTHER FORM OF MEDIA OR WHATEVER, I like it, it's brilliant, I want to write for it, about it, be in it, think about it, read about it, engage in whatever way I can. I CAN'T just "go write my own." And who do you think is more annoyed about not being able to publish the stuff? (According to you) I have written something that is potentially publishable (thank you btw I know you don't exist and is a strawman I invented just now but I've gotta get my compliments where I can//Jk), and I can't publish it in any potentially big way (and rightfully not) because I have no copyright over the characters. I worked hard to design my character, to make the plot meaningful, and to study the original canon plot and characters so that it would all fit together (I mean, partially bcs I can't force myself to sit down and write sth that is any less complex), and I can't actually publish it where more people will read it. And of course, on top of that, even less people will feel like reading once that "original character" tag is up. Does it look like I would be here if I could "just write my own"?
(slight tangent but come on what even is "your own"? how many classic European lit books were just fanfics of each other which were all just fanfics of the Bible or Greek mythology or sth? Stories and symbols have no boundaries it's the economic system that drew those.)
Damn this got way longer than I thought and it's morning now😂 guess I ran out of space to actually promote my fic, might have to do that in a seperate post then. But to anyone who actually read up to here, I'm so sorry for wasting your time no but srsly thanks for reading all of these jumbled thoughts, and good luck with whatever you are working on at the moment, I know you're probably working on something if you're reading through these tags. And of course good luck to the tma folk we're gonna face the end together🙏. good night (I should rly go to sleep now😂)
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aniaintok · 4 years ago
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these two disasters? solve their emotional problems on their own? unlikely. In game, Varric often is like "another one for me! how many have you got, Hawke?" and I totally imagine Quinlan also making it like a competition of kills bc even tho it's morbid, it takes Obi's mind off the more pressing and upsetting things going on in the main scheme of things. And yeah true as bad as a habit it would be to drink until passing out that's probably the only option Quinlan would have being a the Hanged Man unless he like physically ties Obi to his bed and even then Qui-Gon Jinn would probably be like "wtf are you doing to my boy"(even tho I think Obi/Ani's magic prob would happen after That Event, I always read Obi never wanting to sleep regulary and so--     --Quinlan might be over a lot before That Event to try and get Obi to sleep so then Jinn would end up seeing it enough that it became normal). I also love the idea of Ashoka breaking in to Ani's house just casually munching on some food. Like an excessive amount like she's fine dining in this mansion of Ani's and at the end of each visit she's like "oh... I brought too much for me again.. huh..---     --Guess you can have it!" and leaves before Ani protests and he doesn't want to waste any food, heaven knows he probably was scarce to find any being on the run all the time (which is also probs why he would neglect to eat bc his body got used to it) so he'll eat anything that wouldn't keep put back in storage. Meanwhile Ashoke sneakily peeks through the window to make sure he does eat afterwards.                                   I remember playing dao and just. totally not grasping the classes for some reason? Like my first warden was a rogue archer and I just. gave her a greatsword lmao. anyone could carry anything they just weren't GOOD at it. and with mages being so shunned across like all the games I don't think Obi hiding it by using another weapon would hinder him at all.                              Like I can imagine Jinn training him on the staves for physically hitting people because then he could probably let loose a littttle bit of a magic and it wouldn't be the most obvious thing from anyone he's trying to hide it from ykno                    
LMAOO FACTS the whole crew is like “are we sure those two are adults?? mature adults?? because they’re acting like CHILDREN”
but yes, i think quinlan is def like varric in that respect, where he doesn’t really know what to say to obi to make him feel better, but he’s like “c’mon, there’s some bad guys we can kill in low town, it’ll make you feel better!” and obi-wan rolls his eyes and pretends to begrudgingly tag along but he’s lowkey really grateful? like YEA, it’s incredibly annoying that quinlan won’t leave him alone for even half a second, he’d just like some peace and quiet, but even when he doesn’t really want the company he’s glad he’s not alone. and i fucking LOVE the image of quinlan muscling his way into their small ass house in lowtown and just not even saying anything to qui-gon, just immediately shoving obi-wan into his bed like “i’m not leaving until you get AT LEAST four hours of sleep and that’s FINAL”
ahsoka brings full five course MEALS to ani’s mansion and when she leaves and he tries to get her to take some of it back she pretends she can’t see it, just fully staring at the ceiling while she blindly walks towards the door, feeling her way so she doesn’t smash into a wall. (And fucking hell, yea that boys eating habits are probably super unhealthy, years of eating just-barely-enough that he’s just used to eating nothing at all)
dao has a special place in my heart because it’s just so, awfully insufferable that it’s amazing? because i had exactly the same experience first time i played it (inquisition was my first da game and then i went backwards -- played da2 and then origins) and it was so WEIRD to me that the weapons weren’t class locked, you could just equip anyone with whatever tf u wanted, and it was so unstructured in that way compared to the other games that i was like “?????” the whole time lmao (even now, i recently started replaying it, and i was playing my warden as a warrior until like 20 hours in that i realized my warden was actually rogue specialty, OOPS)
and yes, full agree on the training idea with obi!! it makes the most sense tbh, it seems only logical that a mage living outside of the circle would train in some other weapon, or learn how to use magic on the sly!!
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rogah-wrote-gaga · 5 years ago
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the other one
chapter one: he’s not as he seems
pairing: roger taylor x reader, brian may x reader
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summary: You'd only been following them because of Tim, you told yourself. It had nothing to do with a sexy blonde and a lovely astrophysicist, so why were you sticking with them, and not him? You knew full well that Tim had made his own decision when he left Smile, cutting off his relationship with you and the boys.
What you didn't know how far it would take you.
chapter summary: You didn’t want to head back to your dorm just yet, so you stayed at the bar, observing people quietly. It wasn’t until you were halfway through your second pint that you realised the drummer of Tim’s band had just sat down next to you. “Hey.” You turned to him in surprise; his voice was so unlike his singing in the band (to be fair, you had only ever heard him singing in falsetto). It was scratchy and gravelly, and you could see why girls were constantly falling at his feet. His eyes were the bluest you had ever seen, and his hair was a shining blonde. If he were a girl, he probably would’ve been exactly Tim’s type. “Hi.” He gulped down the rest of his drink and smiled; his teeth were even and white. “So, I saw you looking at me.” OR reader meets Roger and gets to know him.
warnings: none really, mentions of sex/ mild innuendo
a/n:  so this is chapter one of my new slow burn series, the other one!! it was great fun to write and i hope you enjoy reading it just as much as i enjoyed writing it :) tagging @asupersonicwoman bc i know how much she loves roger and @sunshine112​, @sunset-shimmer-may​, @tuiaway​, and @blamerogertaylor​ in the hopes that they might enjoy it(let me know if you want to carry on being tagged in any of my fics) ; any reblogs and comments are appreciated and let me know if you want to be added to my taglist!
The pub was as busy as always. Sighing, you walked over to the bar, hopped up on a barstool, and ordered a pint of beer. Your first year of university had taken its toll on you: you came to this bar to relax. Up on the small deck that served as a stage was your best friend Tim, with two others who you didn’t know too well, performing as the band ‘Smile’.
You sipped your drink as Tim started to croon into the mic and focused your attention on the blond drummer. Tim had introduced you a few weeks back, and you couldn’t remember anything about him except that he always seemed to have a girl draped on his arm. The guitarist’s name was Brian, and he was in your Mathematics class. He was the smartest guy in the class when he bothered to turn up; you heard that Physics was his main passion, alongside making music. His hair was one giant ball of frizz as he bobbed about the stage, and you smiled to yourself, knowing that he had probably tried to brush out his curls.
The band finished playing “Earth” to a round of half-hearted applause, and Tim sauntered off the stage towards where you sat at the bar, ordering himself a pint in the process. “Hey, y/n, enjoy the show?” he grinned. “You only played one song. And it was boring.” You only said this because you knew it would annoy him; he was very proud of his work. “Well, you certainly looked like you enjoyed it.” Tim said this with a wink and a nod towards the drummer, who was making his way through the crowds that had suddenly appeared when he had left the stage. Rolling your eyes, you turned back to Tim, who was smiling obnoxiously at you. “Catch you later, y/n!”
You didn’t want to head back to your dorm just yet, so you stayed at the bar, observing people quietly. It wasn’t until you were halfway through your second pint that you realised the drummer of Tim’s band had just sat down next to you. “Hey.” You turned to him in surprise; his voice was so unlike his singing in the band (to be fair, you had only ever heard him singing in falsetto). It was scratchy and gravelly, and you could see why girls were constantly falling at his feet. His eyes were the bluest you had ever seen, and his hair was a shining blonde. If he were a girl, he probably would’ve been exactly Tim’s type. “Hi.” He gulped down the rest of his drink and smiled; his teeth were even and white. “So, I saw you looking at me.”
Great. He was one of those. You knew the type. Cocky, self-satisfied bastards who thought they could have their way with any girl they wanted. Hell, they probably did. “Who would want to look at you?” you muttered, staring at the dusty floorboards. The silence was what made you look up. The drummer was staring at you with an intensity you’d never experienced before. He seemed to notice you had looked up, and snapped out of it pretty quickly, shaking his head and stuttering, “Look, uh, I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to offend you. My name’s Roger. Roger Taylor.”
He offered out a hand as he said this, looking away with what you recognised as embarrassment and perhaps even shame. “I’m y/n,” you said as you gripped his hand and shook it firmly. Roger reached under his shirt with one hand, rubbing a shoulder, still not looking at you.
“Yeah, I know. You’re Tim’s mate? We, uh, were introduced. A couple weeks back. You study Maths and Psychology, right? At Brian’s college, I think you said.” He was talking really fast, his eyes darting around, avoiding your gaze. You were surprised that he remembered so much about you and a little ashamed that you couldn’t remember a single thing about him. He suddenly seemed kind of shy, maybe even scared. “Yeah, that’s right. And you’re a… medical student?” you guessed, grimacing to yourself when Roger shook his head. “Dentistry,” he muttered. “And I absolutely hate it. But hey, gotta do what you gotta do to keep your parents happy, I guess.” He didn’t seem to be on the verge of continuing, so you asked him what he did in his spare time.
He perked up a bit at that, and seemed to partially revert back into his original, confident manner, his voicing raising pitch until he almost sounded like a girl. “Yeah, well, obviously I’m drumming in this band, and I absolutely love music, y’know, I’d want to do it all my life if I could. I like fiddling around with cars, too, absolutely love cars. But music is my main goal, I guess, used to play the guitar and even a bit of ukulele!” You laughed at that, trying to picture him strumming what you visualised as a very tiny guitar. “But then I tried out the drums, and not to boast or anything, but I was, and am, bloody brilliant. I just have this kind of knack for it.” In your mind, you agreed; he added a flair to Tim’s music with interesting rhythms and constantly wasted time twirling his drumsticks, still finding time to hit every beat perfectly. “But enough about me. What do you like to do?”
This surprised you. Most of the guys that had tried to hit on you (and there weren’t many) talked about themselves for hours then asked at the very end if you were u for a quick shag. This had led to your poor opinion on most men, except your brother, who was your brother, and Tim, because he was your best friend.
“Well, I like reading. And writing.” This was the most you’d ever been able to get out before whatever man you were currently entertaining passed out with boredom. You hesitated, but Roger gestured for you to go on, with what seemed like genuine interest. “And, uh, I was gonna take English Lit at uni, but there was this thing with my application…” And so it went. He let you talk for as long as you pleased, interjecting only to ask questions and even laughing at your terrible anecdotes. Then you carried on talking, about everything from his favourite colour to your taste in music. He insisted on paying for the next three rounds, by the end of which you were both slightly tipsy. “So, why d’you c’mere then? If you don’t like Tim?” You gestured around wildly, trying to think. “No, no, no, I do like Tim. But not, y’know, like that. You know what I mean. He’s just not… sexy.” Roger laughed. “Sexy?” “Oh, you know what I mean.” Roger waggled his eyebrows at you before continuing, “Am I sexy?” “Very,” you assured him with a laugh. And he was. So, when you leant forwards and kissed him, it didn’t feel forced at all.
Groaning, you sat up from your bed with a headache. You couldn’t remember having that much to drink last night and was surprised when you sat up in unfamiliar surroundings. All you could vaguely remember was stumbling towards a black cab before someone had grabbed you and snatched you away from it. You were also aware that you were definitely not in your dorm. You sat up in a whiz, knowing that if you were not in your dorm and none of your friends had been with you, you were probably kidnapped. “Shit, shit, shit,” you muttered as you scrambled your way out of bed. You were on the verge of hoisting yourself out of the 2nd floor window amidst your mini panic attack when someone walked in.
“Uh, hey. Wh-Why are you trying to climb out my window?” “Roger!” You ran towards him and collapsed into his arms. “I thought- I thought that-” Laughing, Roger stepped away from you. “You thought what? That I had kidnapped you? y/n, you were this close to getting run over by this random car.” You pushed his fingers away from where they were dangling in front of your face. “I was trying to hail a cab!” “That wasn’t a cab, it was just some black jeep with a middle aged man in it.” You shook your head, adamant that you hadn’t been that drunk, but the grin didn’t leave Roger’s face and you couldn’t think of any other way you could’ve ended up in his flat. “So you brought me here. Thanks.”
He stepped away again, turning his back to you and rubbing the back of his neck, as walked into what looked like a kitchen, mumbling, “It was no problem. Uh, would you like something to drink?” You raised your eyebrows, surprised at the sudden change in character. “No, thanks. Where exactly are we?” you asked, following him to where he now stood, leaning against the counter. You couldn’t help but notice that he only had a tiny pair of shorts on which barely covered his boxers, and an unbuttoned shirt, exposing his chest and small tummy. “In my flat. I’m staying here while I’m at uni; the rent’s cheap and the neighbours aren’t too loud.”
“No, I got that we were in your flat, but where is your flat located? Sorry, I sound like a stalker.” Roger gave you a weird look. “But you’re in my flat anyway. That doesn’t exactly make you a stalker. And we’re still in London, don’t worry, I haven’t carted you off to Land’s End just yet. Anyway, why are we standing around in the kitchen? I’ve got a very comfortable sofa, trust me.” You blushed slightly at the innuendo, and followed him through a small door that led into a fairly cramped living area, with a drum kit squished into one corner and stacks of vinyls, cd’s and books in another. In the middle against a wall was a two seater couch. You watched as Roger plonked himself on the sofa, gesturing for you to sit down next to him.
You sat down, and mentally noted the contact your thighs and arms made; you weren’t sure if it was normal, but you loved being touched by people. It didn’t even have to be sexual; you were so deprived of physical contact (Tim wasn’t a big hugger) that even a simple hug made you feel warm and happy. Roger seemed to notice how comfortable you were, and slipped an arm around your shoulders, pulling you towards him so that your head was resting on his chest. Your ear was pressed so close to his bare skin that you could hear his heart racing. Eyes closed, you sighed contentedly. “You comfortable there, y/n?” Roger’s breath was hot against your ear as you breathed in his scent. “Because we can always go and lie on the bed if you’d prefer.” That made you sit up pretty quick, blood thundering in your ears. “I’m not- I didn’t mean- I just thought, it might be more comfortable? I wasn’t trying to make you feel aw-” You held a finger to Roger’s lips so he would stop the unnecessary stuttering. “I’d like to.” “Y-You would?” Roger seemed genuinely amazed.
“Of course I would. Let’s go.” you said, jumping off the sofa and leading the way to the bedroom. You lay back down on the bed, snuggling into the cold sheets while Roger lay down next to you. It was hard to tell whether he wanted you or not; he lay there beside you, not moving an inch. “Rog? Are you alright?”
He closed his eyes and turned away from you. “I just- I’ve never done this before. I’ve never had sex, I’ve never had a blowie, I’d never even had a good snog before yesterday. And I know it sounds stupid, y/n, so goddamn stupid, but I-, I’m just… scared…” His voice trailed off as you sank into his back, grasping his middle and laying your head just below his neck. “Why are you scared, Rog?” you whispered, as gently as possible. He stiffened beside you, trying to escape from your grip. “Well...uh...I dunno, I guess, uh, maybe, it- it might hurt?” This was not what you expected; then again, everything that had happened with Roger so far had been unpredictable.
But your very first impression of him, before you’d even spoken to each other, was that he was probably a good lay, he oozed self-confidence, and that he could pull any girl he wanted. But it seems you’d only got two of those assumptions right; he certainly had girls swooning over him, but he hadn’t seem interested in any of them, and now he was lying here next you explaining why he was still a virgin. You’d guessed his age at being about 20 or so; he was still at uni, after all, just like you.
“Do you ever think about it?” He sighed, the frustration in his voice evident. “I think about it all the bloody time! An’ it’s not like I don’t want to, it's just, I don’t know how- an’ I don’t know when or where or just- I don’t know what to do! I know for a fact that you don’t lie around talking, but I just don’t have the experience, and that makes me think no-one wants to shag me. I don’t know if it’s because I’m bad at flirting or whatever, but-”
He trailed off again, and you pushed yourself up on one elbow to see that his eyes were still squeezed tightly shut, small drops of water forcing their way through.
“Oh, Roger, that doesn’t matter! You don’t need any experience. Surely you’ve seen the girls practically lining up for you. As long as you enjoy yourself when you do it, then that’s fine,” you said, squirming internally.
You weren’t good at comforting people; you had a tendency to miraculously disappear whenever someone needed your shoulder to cry on. But there was no way you could leave the beautiful sobbing mess by himself without mentally beating yourself up for at least a week. “I’m here for you, Rog; whether you want me as your first sexual encounter,” You tried to inject some provocativeness into your voice as you said this, trailing your hand up his thigh deliberately in an effort to make him laugh, “Or as your fellow struggling student who just wants to focus on the things they love.”
You could feel that Roger had calmed down by then; he was no longer shaking and the tears had stopped. You held him, gently, not wanting to pressure him. His breathing slowed in your arms, and you felt the slow tendrils of sleep pulling both of you under.
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Okay so, there isn’t a huge amount of shadowhunters episodes left before it ends I’m gonna bring something up now I’ve been thinking about. Realistically when shadowhunters ends, a lot of the community will just drop. Over time a lot less content will be made. I mean hell even in the hiatus it got to points where I was actively looking for new SH stuff to post bc pretty much nothing showed up on the tag. A lot of the bigger content creators will lessen their involvement or move onto something else entirely. It’s gonna get quieter. 
And realistically, I’m not going to be here posting SH for the rest of my life. It’s been a joy to write those weird little chat posts each day and throw something out into the fandom to see if anyone else likes it. I’m not leaving! But I am asking if you have any ideas what you want me to do next. In all options I’ll still be reblogging SH, still making posts occasionally (though eventually I’ll stop doing it daily and lay off a bit, they’ll still appear sometimes). I enjoy being on tumblr BUT a lot of what keeps me here is activity, if I just kept going SH I can guarantee you I’d reach a stopping point where I got bored and never came back. I’m sure I’ll get bored of tumblr one day but we’re not there yet SO:
a) I make this into a multifandom account, spread my branches, reach into other fandoms as well. I promise I’ll start a tagging system so you can always just filter out what you don’t want to see. To give you an idea I’m a big MCU nerd (like it’d probably be a flood there), doctor who, brooklyn nine nine, lucifer and i have lots of other little interests like BBC Class or DGHDA or Sherlock or maybe even some SPN though I’ll admit to not keeping up with the show anymore. Other movies I see, new shows I start (my parents and I are looking at watching Good Omens together when it starts for example). a lot of fandoms aren’t coming to mind rn but you know, those are an idea.
b) I make this into just a huge mess of an account with EVERYTHING sdfjhsdf fandoms, memes, funny shit I see, shit I see that makes me cry, amazing photography, some quote I like, animals, some ungodly post that makes me want to die, LGBT+ stuff (cause ya know i’m gay), ESSENTIALLY EVERYTHING THAT CROSSES MY DASH COULD END UP HERE. Basically option a) but more and without limits.
c) I leave this account be and start a new account, let y’all know and anyone that wants to follow me over there can, maybe cause you like me or maybe cause you’re interested in what the new account will have (I doubt it’ll be a specific account like specifically doctor who stuff, it’ll be either option a or option b, just in a new place). I already have a side blog that’s kind of a mess of stuff I wanted to reblog but didn’t put on here, though there is admittedly not much bc lord knows I’m too lazy to change it so it reblogs to that account not my main one. This is just an option if anyone had an attachment to my SH stuff and wanted it to be left on it’s own so they could scroll back through whenever they wanted (or another reason but that seems like the main one)
d) suggestions?
At the end of the day it is my account and I can do whatever I want with it but I’ve got a few of you following me now and I appreciate y’all sticking around, I’d like to know what you’d like to see me do, maybe have you stick around a bit longer. I don’t imagine I’ll get a huge response to this post so it’s not like the majority option will win (unless like 10 people reply and you all say [this letter] then ok majority probably wins), more like I’ll be taking into account a way you’d still enjoy this account despite it not being the SH focused account it has been for idk the past 2 years or something.
I love being able to talk to you guys, to interact and to have you supporting me no matter what I post (yeah i’m talking about you few that I see liking every single post). It’s like a smaller community that I love. The change in the account will most likely change that but so would SH ending so you know, I’m just controlling that change to a degree.
Anyway I’ll probably reblog this a few times over the next few weeks at different times and on different days just to see if I can pick up some responses from people but I promise to try not to be annoying about it. Lemme know an option or your thoughts however you want, replying to this, send an ask (anon if you want), message me, idk figure out where i live and send a letter if ur a snail mail kind of person (pls don’t do that), whatever works for you.  BUT ALSO, NOTHING WILL BE CHANGING U N T I L SHADOWHUNTERS ENDS, NO SOONER. THESE CHANGES WILL ONLY HAPPEN AFTER. AND PROBABLY NOT IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE LAST EPISODE ENDS EITHER. THERE’LL PROBABLY BE A BIT OF TIME BEFORE I START BRINGING THEM IN. OK COOL THANKS.
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wrestlingenthusiast · 6 years ago
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☕ on so called "internet hated stars" (roman reigns, alexa bliss, carmella, for some reason starting now charlotte, etc.) and if u think they deserve the hate
 im just gonna insert a read more bc this is a long one 
r*man r*igns: when I first started this blog, I highly disliked him you can probably see that if you look through his tag on my blog lmaoooo. But at this point, I’m not a fan but I don’t dislike him either. He doesn’t deserve the hate he gets constantly. That doesn’t mean I’m not gonna keep it real and act like I still don’t have issues with how he’s pushed, and always main eventing a wrestlemania despite the crowd reactions. His move set is lackluster, but the moves he does do, he does them very well. 
However, my issues with him im 100% sure are due to creative fucking up his whole character from the beginning and I realized that, so I just try to be indifferent. I’m glad he’s finally the universal champion, it’s about time. He does not deserve the hate, he’s a great guy outside of the ring, I just wish that creative didn’t fuck him up so bad. Some of the criticisms he gets are deserved but certainly not at the level people take it like damnnn chillll. 
al*xa bl*ss:if you’ve followed me for a while, you’d probably know that I am not a fan of her at all lmaoo. Probably my least favorite wrestler in all of ww* right now. I think the criticisms I, and others, have made are more than valid. She doesn’t take bumps, she often fakes the hell out of so many moves to the point that they don’t even look remotely real. She’s said it herself, that she’s basically not showing her full potential as a wrestler because she’s a heel which is the biggest bs excuse I’ve heard. Yeah, she’s good on the mic but I can name other women just as good and mic work can only do so much when you can’t hold your own in the ring with the talented women that are there who have to bump for you to make YOU look good. her stans annoy me, she annoys me, and that’s the tea. It is a straight fact that blonde gringas get all the opportunities because it’s all v*nce wants to see. She does nothing for me, and until I see a character change or an actual moveset my opinion will stay the same. She does deserve the hate she gets imo.
carmella: i’m a fan of carmella’s, I see her actually TRYING hard in the ring, and she had the best match of her career at summerslam (IM STILL QUAKING AT HER SUICIDE DIVE!!!!). I see her bumping, she always talks about how she wants to improve in the ring. She’s a great heel, she’s stunning, her fashion is PERFECT I WANT TO BE HER. As far as booking, I wasn’t a fan of her winning against asuka (but that’s because I think asuka overall has been treated like crap since being called up). 
I think carmella has taken the opportunities she’s been given and she’s proven that she’s getting better and not using being a heel as an excuse to not improve. I don’t think she deserves the hate she gets.
Ch*rlotte: I think she’s a talented wrestler who’s been overpushed way too much but I prefer her over ***** anyday. I think some of the hate she gets is deserved but I personally dont have a problem with her, I just wish other women got the opportunities she’s gotten…. 
i also think other women get much more hate than some would like to acknowledge like sasha who I constantly see people bashing which I find hilarious esp when their faves are out there,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, nvm thats another post LMAO
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melto · 7 years ago
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uhhh hate to be that guy but im kinda fucking tired of how yall treat jeremy heere. u just sweep him under the rug constantly. and like, dont get me wrong, yall do that to more than just him but i shouldnt have to struggle to find content about the main character in a show; especially when im literally in his fucking tag! its ridiculous yall!!!
like i get michael is like ur precious baby or whatever but honestly? jeremy kinda went thru worse. like im not down playing what michael went thru and struggles with but one sad song abt a panic attack doesnt match up to like months of physical and emotional abuse :/ and yall r like “protect michael uwu” and shit but i dont see yall trying to protect jeremy :/
also i really hate how in like. every fic there is some big confrontation abt the bathroom incident and how terrible and tramatic it was for michael and it always ends with jeremy taking all the blame. and like. jeremy NEVER gets to speak up about his trauma or deal with it and its never acknowledged in the slightest. which is absolutely unrealistic bc that boy went thru so much shit and its genuinely not fair and its upsetting to watch yall act like he’s just Fine and Dandy. his character and recovery deserve to be explored and talked about as much as michael’s, if not more.
then there is also the weird the obession with making jeremy a jerk??? and sure he kinda did dick things to michael but they are all like, understandable. i get why he did what he did, and im not mad? im sure i would do the same thing (yall also love to ignore with the bathroom incident he was scared, drunk, like literally just sexually harassed and had been on the receiving end of abuse for a few months). but yall out there seriously trying to make him seem like the worst fucking dude to ever exist be he mad michael cry or whateverthefuck. like uhhhh why do u need to make jeremy the bad guy when the squip exists??? the literal antagonist of the show??? an unredeemable computer??? the embodiment of evil imo???
and dont even get me started on how u reduce jeremy to a character whos only traits r michael mell and jacking off. it is annoying as hell. yall focus more on noncanon traits/hcs and fucking shipping him with his best friend than u do actually looking at his chatacter. its not fucking fair and im so fucking angry. sometimes yall hand me a jeremy that i literally cannot recognize bc yall have warped his character so fucking bad. like why did u do this? why did u have to do my baby boy so dirty u dipshits!!!
anyways its like. nearing 2am and im tired and angry so im gonna wrap this up. stop overlooking jeremy heere and stop treating him like he’s gum on the bottom of ur shoe. he’s the main character. its HIS fucking story. step the fuck up yall and let him have the damn spotlight.
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allofthisnonsenseplease · 7 years ago
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firesonic152 - 08/25/2017 have we done reckless treasure hunter au yet it feels like something that needs to happen if it hasn't XD
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/25/2017 We have NOT done reckless treasure hunter AU yet! =D
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 okay so reckless treasure hunter au a la uncharted/indiana jones/the mummy/etc who's the main treasure hunter, gabe? and if so how did jack get stuck on the adventure XD
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 Jack isn't the idiot idealistic treasure hunter and Gabe is the experienced traveler/best friend along to keep him from getting himself killed? XD
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 OMG love jack is like I'M DOING THE THING and gabe is like You Will Die if i don't help so
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 and pining along the way! =D
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 lol gabe is like a rando in a tavern who just overhears jack talking to someone about his adventure plans and gabe is  like banging his head against the bar finally just gets up, slides into the free chair at jack's table, and says hey kid i'm coming bc you are an idiot
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 XD Gabe just inviting himself along That's how he's gotten to have all his awesome adventures! He meets tons of explorers and treasure hunters of varying levels of skill and just ends up playing advisor or tagging along for fun Jack's all: 'But how do I know you're as good at this as you say?' and Gabe's like: 'What the fuck do you want, a resume?' And he invites Jack back to his place, and Jack is all cool, guy's hot and I could do with a good fuck but Gabe's walls are covered with photos from his adventures and ones of him posing with people famous in the explorer circles Jack's aiming to join
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 OMGG LOL JACK GETS THE WRONG IDEA AND THINKS GABE IS LOOKING FOR A ONE NIGHT STAND ONLY TO DISCOVER HE ACTUALLY WANTS TO COME ON THE ADVENTUREE and by the time that's made clear jack's like "GODdammit now i really just wanna fuck him >>"
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 ^^ heehee yes. good. Jack spends the entire adventure trying to impress Gabe to get into his pants and fucking shit up bc he's not paying attention. But when things DO go south, and he's actually trying to keep them alive, he's kinda badass. Gabe cant figure out if he's an idiot, or someone who could be really good at this with a bit of experience.
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 AHAHAHA JACK QUIT SHOWBOATING AND FOCUS he does like dumb shit too like trip and totally miss the intended booby trap, instead accidentally crashing through the very old wall
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 JACK. Some respect for antiquities, please!
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 ahahahaha gabriel's always getting distracted by cool structures and wall carvings and telling long stories about history that jack didn't even know happened jack tends to zone out and just listen to gabe's voice without really hearing the words bc it's so soothing lol
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 oh lord. XD We gotta give him something tho, don't we? What if Jack actually has a background in linguistics and can decipher some of hte ancient languages they run across, but it's like that tumblr post that talks about how it really goes, and it's all full of unclear meanings and doesn't scan well in English and he gets so distracted puzzling over it that he forgets to run for his life when traps are sprung?
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 OMG gabe knows spanish but jack offhandedly seems to be at least a little fluent in everything????
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 He surprises Gabe towards the end by having understood Spanish the whole time, and Gabe is SO annoyed and indignant over it, 'cause not all he was saying was insults and curses, some of it was about how hot Jack is and what Gabe wants to do to him, and he's just I THOUGHT YOU WERE AN EXPERT ON DEAD LANGUAGES and Jack is just -'.'- that doesn't preclude me knowing a few commonly used ones. It could be that Jack understands Spanish and a few others, but doesn't speak them well. XD Like, he can manage to order food and ask directions, so Gabe thinks he just knows basic tourist phrases and that anything quick and/or complicated will go right over his blocky, blond head
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 i love that shit he has a terrible accent but he can understand almost everything and like some really random languages too lmao
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 Jack def knows klingon. XD
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 AHAHA
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 and possibly elvish XD
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 NERD
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 that's where he got his start! =D
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 when gabe is like WHAT OTHER LANGUAGES DO YOU KNOW jack sheepishly lists those off and gabe is internally like holy shit i'm in love with a Nerd
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 and he just branched out from there, and went into ancient languages 'cause they felt closer to these made up ones bc there aren't native speakers he can learn from
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 >w<
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 okay, but...Gabe being like. Klingon? Seriously?? Wait. Wait wait wait. Hang on. And he produces a photo of himself in Klingon cosplay. XD
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 GAAAAABE THAT'S GAY
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 XD Dude. The Klingon guy was a fukkin' teddy bear (from the few eps I remember XD)
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 i'm dying what treasure are they going after a golden corn idol?? maybe a cool red and black orb thing like the reaper souls
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 hrmmm.... XD They get to the center of the massive temple filled with deadly traps and Jack is just THE REAL TREASURE WAS THE FRIENDS WE MADE ALONG THE WAY! :D
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 AHAHAHA JACK
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 Hell, maybe Jack just wants to find some lost manuscripts or something. And he's all gaga over this treasure, but he doesn't tell gabe exactly what it is, only that it's priceless.
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 omfg it's some nerdy linguistic rosetta stone shit
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 XD
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 oh also in terms of skillsets jack is the one who can Actually Aim a pistol
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 BUT HE'S ALSO THE IDIOT WHO INSISTS OF HOLSTERING IT AND BRINGING A KNIFE TO A KNIFE FIGHT????
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 they're in a situation where they need to be accurate and jack is like "GABE SHOOT THE THING" and gabe looks down at his shotgun like uh well LOLLL gabe doesn't even know jack is a good shot until that moment bc jack always insists on Punch
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 X'''D Just picturing them trying to flee the temple as it crumbles aroun them, and Jack's pack and arms are filled to bursting with clay tablets, rendering him USELESS
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 AHAHA
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 Gabe: Just DROP THEM!! Jack: They're PRICELESS!! I can't just let them be LOST FOREVER!! Gabe: It's those damn tablets or US! Jack: WELL IF YOU HAD LET ME TAKE RUBBINGS OF THEM-- Gabe: THE ROOF WAS LITERALLY STARTING TO CAVE IN ON US
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 AKJCNAEKCJNASCKK later tho gabe decides it's worth it bc he's literally never seen jack so happy
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 Oooh! Ooh ooh ooh!!! Can this be another one where Gabe is good at drawing and Jack compliments him on the sketches he does of some of the temple rooms and engravings?? And, like, it's one of the few interactions where Jack's Thirst doesn't take center stage in his interest in Gabe???? ((i <3 artist!Gabe))
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 omg yes!!!! he does the nathan drake thing where he has a journal that he just draws everything in >w< and he draws jack!!!!
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 looking thru it later, Jack finds himself included in the sketches, and he actually blushes. He puts the journal back before Gabe catchins him peeking. XD <3<3<3
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 eeeeeeeheee one of them is him sleeping
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 he fell asleep after one of their big escapes and he was still covered in dirt and shit but gabe just had to capture it
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 there's one of him bent over a manuscript he's trying to interpret, brow a bit furrowed in concentration. Next to it is a rouch sketch of his face lit up with excitement from where he'd puzzled out a difficult piecec.
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 akciaskjcnasckasnjc jack does appreciate the sassy commentary gabe adds to some of his drawings and notes lol but ahhhh some of the pages are very clearly gabe just. practicing drawing jack's face like they're unfinished and rough and slowly improving
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 awww -^^- pfft. omg. okay, but, when Jack shows up on the morning they're supposed to start their trip, he's dressed like Indiana Jones, and Gabe just snorts and says that he looks like he's form the porno ripoff. XD
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 AHAHA the nathan drake look suits him better i think can u tell i'm in love w nathan drake
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 I've seen your posts from the game. ^^ ((i actually have not seen/played anything from your list, except i think i saw part of The Mummy a long time ago. Also, the heart-ripping-out scene from one of the IJ flicks))
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 WAIT SERIOUSLY YOU'VE NEVER SEEN.... INDIANA JONES LIKE. NOT EVEN THE FIRST ONE ??????????
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 Nope. I was v young when i accidentally saw the heart thing and it kinda freaked me out. ^^;;;;;;;;;
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 WELL LISTEN YOU GOTTA the second movie isn't even the seCOND MOVIE IS THE WORST ONE ANYWAY WATCH THE FIRST AND THE THIRD
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 XD no scary ritualistic murders in those?
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 NO JUST A GOOD TIME AND LOTS OF PUNCHING NAZIS well there is a bit at the end of the first one where they melt a bunch of nazis with the power of god but
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 i feel like i might have seen a clip from that??
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 you almost certainly have oh my god i can't believe you've never seen indiana jones please fix this
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 XD my dude, there are HUGE FUCKING GAPS in my pop culture awareness
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 THE THIRD ONE HAS SEAN CONNERY IN IT I'M
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 I KNOW WHO HE IS!!! =D
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 WATCH!!!! THESE MOVIES OH MY GOD i don't know if i can continue to associate w you if you don't
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 W O W okay i see how it is XD
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 YES YOU DO WATCH INDIANA JONES
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 I'll add it to the list of stuff I need to watch =)
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 ADD IT TO THE TOP OF THE LIST I WILL LITERALLY BUY YOU A DVD OF IT OFF AMAZON AND SEND IT TO YOU IF THAT'S WHAT IT WILL TAKE
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 No, no. Don't do that. I'm sure I can find it on youtube or something.
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 skjcnskjscnskejcn anyway this got so off topic XDDD
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 which one's the first one?
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 I WAS LITERALLY JUST ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT GABE DOING THE CLASSIC INDIANA JONES MOVE OF SLIDING THROUGH A CLOSING DOORWAY AND LOSING HIS HAT AND HAVING TO GRAB IT AT THE LAST SECOND BUT YOU'VE NEVER SEEN IT raiders of the lost ark
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 I've seen it referenced in, like, EVERYTHING I'm familiar with bits and pieces. Like, I know he fukking shoots some guy threatening him with a sword. XD
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 YES ALCJNAEFKJN AND SO MANY CLASSIC LINES "asps. very dangerous. you go first" "snakes... why'd it have to be snakes" "bad dates" SO MANY GOOD LINES
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 hahaha we had these felt critter hats when I worked at Michael's and one was a snake and i put it on and joked about making an asp of myself and no one at work got the pun ._.
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 ksjvnskjnaekucnaec that's a quality pun right there my dude .... ANYWAY WHAT WERE WE TALKING ABOUT
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 anyways. Gabe nearly losing his beanie while sliding under a closing trap door
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 XDDD jack: FORGET THE BEANIE GABE OH MY GOD gabe: I LET YOU KEEP YOUR TABLETS jack: YOU CAN BUY BEANIES IN A STORE GABE!!!
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 X'''''''''D Gabe: YOU CAN BUY PLAYDOH AND MAKE YOUR OWN FUCKNG TABLETS
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 AHAHAHA so when do we get to shoot jack >w>
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 Well, do you want a dramatic, one-time thing? Or do you want Jack to be a walking target? Kids running through a village square shoot him with water guns. They run across a reclusive village and he gets shot with blow darts. The bad guys graze his arm during a chase. Gabe finger guns his way out of small problems, leaving them for Jack to solve. XD
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 lolllll jack gets doped up by a blow dart and gets all sleepy and cuddly
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 d'awww X3 Gabe acts more bothered by it than he really is, and hopes that Jack won't remember much when he wakes up. -^^-
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 >w<
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 !!! okay, so what if Jack, in SUPER NERDY FASHION has a rosetta stone-shaped tattoo on his back filled up with, like, a personal motto or something written over and over in all the dead languages he's learned with room towards the bottom for him to add if he learns a few more. and Gabe teases the hell out of him for it, but the first time they sleep together, Jack's on his knees and Gabe's behind and when Gabe traces over some of the writing in response to Jack's demand for touch, Jack gasps out the words in whatever language Gabe is tracing.
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 OH MY GOD DUDE OH MY GOD????
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 ^^ the first two ar Klingon and Elvish. XD
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 lmao fuckin NERD
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 OF COURSE
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 ooooo damn i wanna draw that tattoo and it's a dumb motto like one of the things he says in the game like "no guts no glory"
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 eat your yogurt
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 AHAHA
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 XD
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 "i love the smell of charcoal in the morning"
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 X''''''''D Jack says it in horribly accented Spanish after Gabe goes through all the ones tattooed there, and that's when Gabe realizes that he knows more than he'd let on. He starts going much harder, murmuring all sorts of flithy things in Jack's ear which only gets Jack even more riled up.
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 iunuyghcrfyvkhbihbijni WHEN DO THEY GET TOGETHER THO do they find an ancient ring or something and jack jokingly puts it on gabe's ring finger
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 SURPRISE IT'S CURSED AND POISON-TIPPED PRONGS POP OUT WHEN IT HEATS UP TO BODY TEMPERATURE
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 LOLLL
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 ((i read a horror story like that once, only it was a bracelet and also not scary)) pretty jade ring? ^^ or Gabe finds something like that and tosses it to Jack who fumbles it, but manages to catch it and glares and then notices there's an inscription and it's something about a long and happy future and much fertility between the giver of the ring and the reciever i dunno maybe jack nearly gets his dumb ass killed 'cause he had to choose between saving the tablets or gabe's hat and he chose both and nearly fell into a pit
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 OMG
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 OR! What if, running through the traps, they think they make it out safe until Jack notices one of  the poisoned darts in his ankle and, like, passes out. When he comes too, Gabe just full on kisses him and is like I THOUGHT THE POISON HAD KILLED YOU but Jack is just 'What? No. It's a thousand years old it's lost all its potency. i just haven't slept since I started taking pics of all these new writings that need translating.'
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 OMGGG I LOVE THAT SO MUCH gabe stares at him and is like "WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT YOUR TERRIBLE SLEEP HABITS LATER" and kisses him again
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/26/2017 Jack has no issues with this turn of events. XD
firesonic152 - 08/26/2017 >w<
firesonic152 - 08/27/2017 jack tries to convince gabe to fuck him right there in the ancient temple gabe is sure that's a good way to get some kind of obscure disease
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/27/2017 Gabe: Gross, Jack. Didn't they used to conduct virgin sacrifices on that altar? Jack: Well, I'm not a virgin, so Gabe: ENTIRELY not the point.
firesonic152 - 08/27/2017 gabe, mumbling: also "virgin sacrifices" referred to virgin blood as in blood that hadn't been used in a ritual before, not someone who had never had sex before but jack: jack: fuck me now
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/27/2017 okay. p sure in those campy ass movies with melting nazis, virgin sacrifices are EXACTLY what they sound like
firesonic152 - 08/27/2017 XDDDD i want a scene where gabe is trying to read latin and pronounces it like italian and jack is disgusted
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/27/2017 XD
firesonic152 - 08/27/2017 jack: i can't believe it gabe: what jack: i'm actually Unattracted to you right now
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/27/2017 Cue Jack scooting in so close to Gabe that he ends up with Gabe's arm around his shoulder as he points to teh line Gabe was mispronouncing and walks him through it.
firesonic152 - 08/27/2017 eeeeeeeeeeeeee jack: all "c"s and "g"s are hard... gabe: lol jack, smacking him: FOCUS THIS IS SERIOUS
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/27/2017 Ah!! That sort of thing continuing after they've gotten together, and Gabe can bait Jack in close by mucking up his pronounciation and then yank Jack into his lap to cuddle him and Jack actually won't object 'cause he's too busy lecturing! XD
firesonic152 - 08/27/2017 EEEEEEEEE gabe starts kissing jack's neck and jack is like "I'M LITERALLY NOT EVEN IN THE MOOD FOR ONCE THIS MAKES ME TOO MAD"
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/27/2017 Gabe, as his hands wander lower on Jack's body: Come on, mi sol...I just want to see how long you can keep up that perfect enunciation.
firesonic152 - 08/27/2017 kjnskjcnksjnckjnd bc of course jack is the nerd that can Speak Latin he starts muttering angrily in latin as gabe gets more and more thorough gabe's goal is to get to the point where jack doesn't have the brain to do that anymore
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/27/2017 X3 go go gabe!
firesonic152 - 08/27/2017 it takes a surprisingly long time like gabe is already fucking him and has bowled him over onto his back
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/27/2017 Jack has switched over from whatever he was reading to shouting encouragement and praise in Latin. Gabe is startled by how effectively that works on him.
firesonic152 - 08/27/2017 HEEEEEEEEEE BEES!!!! gabe doesn't really know what he's saying at first until one of the phrases is really similar to spanish and he's like Oh
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/27/2017 Gabe's a bit surprised at some of the stuff Jack translates for him later, but Jack just kinda smirks and asks if he really thinks people have changed so much over time.
firesonic152 - 08/27/2017 >w> also in the reckless treasure hunter au when do we get to the part where gabe gets cursed by some artifact and becomes reaper lol
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/27/2017 They've been together for a while, still traveling all around the world to check out beautiful or strange sites. At one location where getting almost all the way to the heart of the crypt was a total breeze, Gabe starts getting antsy while Jack is puzzing over an inscription outside the last door. Gabe: Let's just go on in. There's probably LOADS more interesting stuff inside. Jack: Give me a bit longer. I think this is a warning. Gabe: About what, dust? Jack, this place has been a cake walk. ... . . . Jack. Jaaaaaaaaaack. Jackie. Hey, Ja-- Jack: Gabe. Gabe: Yes, mi sol, mi luna, mi estrella brillante? Jack: See those pictograms? I'm about 90 percent sure they mean 'curse'. Gabe, laughing: Oh, come ON, Jackie! Don't tell me you believe that shit! Jack: I don't know what I believe because I haven't finished translating yet. But go ahead, go ahead. Touch the cursed door. Gabe: Well, I mean, if you're almost done-- Jack: No, no! You wanted SOOOO badly to rush on ahead. Be my guest. I dare you. Gabe: ...I really think you'd be safer with me around, so if you're almost finished... Jack: I double dog dare you. Gabe: . . . if i get cursed, it's YOUR fault. Gabe gets cursed. It's both their faults.
firesonic152 - 08/27/2017 LOL GABE IDIOT MOVE the curse IS convenient for exploring though he can just walk through traps to trigger them and then jack can follow with no worry
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/27/2017 oh, how sweet. -^^-
firesonic152 - 08/27/2017 also now jack gets to give gabe bullshit forever about not listening to him and gabe is never allowed to complain about jack insisting on reading Everything without it getting thrown in his face
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/27/2017 XD so...not running with Jack feeling HORRIBLY GUILTY about daring his boyfriend to get cursed? lol and then being so awfully conflicted when they figure out that Gabe has shadow tentacles now?
firesonic152 - 08/27/2017 WELL OF COURSE THAT TOO jack just covers it up with snark and sass until it becomes a problem naturally aijcnaskjcn he starts losing sleep to study harder bc maybe if he could just have translated faster...
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/27/2017 jack you don't have any sleep to lose
firesonic152 - 08/27/2017 he like lies in bed with gabe until gabe falls asleep and then gets up again which... makes him extra clumsy when they're adventuring
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/27/2017 oh dear oooh...what if Jack keeps talking about finding a way to break the curse and even tho Gabe's been pretty chill with it, they start getting into arguments until Gabe finally agrees and calls in some of his old adventuring buddies for suggestions and one of them is all 'oh, so this is that newbie you were complaining about? the one you said was going to be the death of you??' and jack is just well. great.
firesonic152 - 08/27/2017 sekjnsakjncsd cue gabe's old adventuring buddies picking on jack a bunch? XD
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/27/2017 and jack feeling more and more like crap, so he pushes himself more when they're exploring while still losing sleep to study more.
firesonic152 - 08/27/2017 why is he like this who are these asshole adventuring buddies anyway wth XD doomfist i guess?? and widow??
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/27/2017 Rein & Ana
firesonic152 - 08/27/2017 awww but they're nice people gabe can't punch them out to defend jack's honor
SuspiciousPopsicle - 08/27/2017 Well, I mean, if they're ribbing on Jack for actual things he does/Gabe said, then whatever. Maybe they make fun of Gabe too for getting himself cursed, and that's what Jack actually snaps at them over.
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dude your tags on tht post abt hobi+jin not having any lines (+ the discrepancy in ppl's reaction to those awful distributions) is WHEW coldblooded but accurate. ive also seen it happen, ppl leaving bc they can't GET WORK in their own group, and beyond hating awful distributions for wht they are, theyre bad for group longevity esp w/jin whos getting his college degree, who i cld see walking away frm bts w/work+network options even outside of ent. industry. like, bight cherish wht u got rn, dang
Hello anon, thank you so much for your message! It’s nice to know some people actually read my tags I guess haha. I’m not gonna lie, at first when I read your message I was thinking of not replying… simply because we all know tumblr tags are messed up (especially on mobile) and I did not feel like people interpreting my response as hate towards Bangtan or to any of the members. But then I realized that for me in my heart I know my feelings about this whole situation are not based on hate towards either of those so I decided to respond anyways and I just hope that I will word everything correctly so that people reallize I am not a hater. It will be a long response, because as I said in my tags I have a lot of feelings about this, so I’m putting it under a read more :)
When I reblogged that post we’re talking about and put all those tags in, I was extremely angry. I can’t lie about that right now, because I was. Maybe it’s a petty response, but in a song that is 4 minutes and 34 seconds long you just cannot convince me there was no room for Hobi at all. That there was no room for him to get like four lines on his own or for Jin to have more than the two he did? Especially when some members take up like half the song? I just refuse to believe that I’m sorry… And especially to realize, if you look objectively, that the difference in ‘talent’, to put it as such, in Bangtan is not that big let’s be real. They are all extremely talented and no one is 1000 steps above the rest at all in my opinion.
I’ve been a fan since about July 2015, a little after the Dope era, so I have been around for four comebacks now (and a hell of a lot of other groups’ members leaving/groups disbanding) and I’ve said this before on twitter: I feel like the line distribution is getting worse in stead of better with Bangtan. Run was sort of okay for me, especially if you keep in mind the idea of main/lead vocals and sub-vocals, but after that it just got worse and worse imo. And apparently, judging by the response to Hobi having no lines in Spring Day and Jin having barely any solo lines in BST, people really don’t give a shit and want to disguise it under the ‘I love ot7 so let me reblog some posts complaining about the awful line distribution and be done with it’.
The outrage on my dash with the Hobi situation was pitiful, because (and maybe I follow the wrong people who knows) the only ones actually being mad were Hobi stans and some Jin/ot7 stans. The outrage for Jin was basically non existent and it still pisses me off till this day. And the biggest discourse was that people needed to just basically shut up and support Bangtan because otherwise, and wow guilt tripping much?, they would hurt Hobi in the process too. And I get that we all have our favorites, we all have our ranking of the members whatever, but how can you look at this situation and just not realize how damaging it could be in the long run? How damaging it could be for ot7. You don’t have to love and cry and yell about Hobi and Jin as much as you do your bias, but to stay mostly silent cause it doesn’t concern your fave? I just can’t relate…
I’m a Jimin stan, but that means to me I am realistic enough to realize I have nothing to worry about with him. That he will get his lines and his screentime and the attention from his fans. So why should I be blind towards the mistreatment of some of the others? Because I’m settled? Because Jimin is my bias so I have no worries? And I’m not trying to say people who don’t stan Hobi or Jin feel like this, but this is really how it comes across to me. And then everyone, and this annoys me the most, wants to hide behind one of two defenses, a) Bangtan love each other more than anything and they want to stay together forever so awul line distribution won’t break them up and b) Bangtan have a lot of creative control so they probably decided this was best for the song…
Which is funny, because in the same breath they want to oppose haters, which they should don’t get me wrong, by saying ‘don’t hate on *insert their bias here* because it’s not their fault, Big Hit makes the decisions not them’. Excuse me? But that is not how this works. You can’t want to claim they have full creative control and make the decisions themselves and then turn around and say it’s actually Big Hit. It’s either they make the decisions themselves and they are basically assholes for ignoring Hobi, and more specifically Jin in like every song, or they are all subjected to what Big Hit wants.
But to come to the actual point: whether people want to close their eyes to this situation or not, in the end this could be damaging for Bangtan. Do you really think Minzy from 2ne1 didn’t love her group and her members? Do you really believe that guy from Teen Top that wants to leave doesn’t love his group and his members? Do you really believe that someone like Minzy, to take her as an example, who was in one of the biggest girl groups in kpop, just casually decided to leave? Do you not think that she didn’t realize that if she left she will probably never have the income she had with 2ne1 again or that she most likely will never ever be as popular as she was when in the group? Yet she freaking decided to leave anyways, because as you said she got no work! And ofcourse she wanted some, even if that meant not living the live she did with 2ne1, but it would be at least some sort of a life. And this happens to idols all the time, and then they, shocking I know, leave… Awful line distribution, and awful equal promotion, will be the death of any group no matter how much they love each other and the fans or how successful they are.
And I just wish as a fandom we could collectively come together on these subjects a bit more. You don’t have to be a Hobi or Jin stan to be critical of Bangtan’s efforts and in this case their line distribution. And there is also nothing wrong with being a critical fan and trying to let them and Big Hit know that no fan is going to leave if they make everything a little bit more fair. I just don’t want it to come to Bangtan’s contract renewals in a few years and having one or two of them even contemplating leaving. As you said, Jin is graduating soon and many people in the industry have already said that he is a lovely person, easy to work with, funny, clever, hard working and on top of that a lot more multi-talented then people want to give him credit for. You really believe he has no chance of a career outside of Bangtan?
Let me say something positive though for once. If we move beyond the line distribution and take a look at the promo, Big Hit gives me a little bit of hope. 2016 has been a rather good year for all of them in my opinion. Yoongi had his mixtape, Jin had Law of the Jungle and some other variety shows, Tae had his acting, the Taejin OST (where they both proved even more that Bangtan’s line distribution is shit), some MC jobs for all of them on music shows, etc. I think that if you would write it down then their promotion seems to definitely be sort of equal, which gives me great hope that Big Hit will at least always try to promote them equally in that area. But it also seems to me they want them stuck in certain positions: Hobi being the dancer, Jin being the visual, Jungkook being the main vocalist etc. When they are so much more then that!
So what I’m trying to say is that I’m not trying to convince anyone that Hobi or Jin are going to want to leave over this whole thing, but please can we all for once as a fandom acknowledge Bangtan’s shortcomings and realize that if nothing changes (because this is not a one time thing with them), and if we don’t try to voice our concerns, it could come to a Minzy situation (or any other group member that has ever left their group due to disrespect basically). I just don’t want them in the future to break up or have some members leaving, and then have everyone cry their eyes out for a day when we could have done something about it now…
This became so much longer then I wanted to, and I probably didn’t even say everything I wanted to say, so I’m really sorry. And I mostly ranted about nothing you were talking about in your ask, but I needed to get this all of my chest. I always say this and I will say it again: I love Bangtan with all my heart, and I don’t plan on abandoning them anytime soon, but these comebacks just slowly become a little less enjoyable and I will keep hoping that next time will be better. That next time I won’t have to sit through the music video waiting for a glimpse of Hobi or Jin or anyone. I just want Bangtan to reach their full potential, because I really feel they haven’t yet, because I think they are 7 wonderful individuals who deserve nothing less.
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