#mac callander

[zarkishere]

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Young Jack ver ⤴️

Old Jack ver ⤵️

notes cuz i love overthinking shit :

EVERYONE except Micah, Sadie and Kieran have both little hair thingies

for Micah it's cuz....yknow. he's not really part. he's the rat. doesn't even have one of the two.

For Sadie and Kieran they have 1 since they are part of the gang, they just happened to join later

I changed some people's design a little bit but it's minor changes that don't mean much just me fixing up stuff

Molly and Grimshaw's eye-makeup-thingies are the same (cuz yknow. Dutch.) Molly's hair doesn't naturally do the Little Hair Thing, she has to do it every morning, hence why it's...oddly curly (this time not because she's not part of the gang, but because she feels the need to have it. maybe Dutch will love her if she does. if she's like the rest.)

I decided to make older Jack have a few things from other characters who are theorized to be his dad (lol. i don't believe those theories just for the record, i think Jack is John's kid, i just like stirring the pot HJKASJKHASGASG)

Jenny is like that cuz we never see her apart from a drawing, so i thought i should make her all sketchy and silly

Mac is. a fucking square. we never see that mf.

Karen has 3 freckles instead of 3 cuz she's quirky and not like the other girls (no but fr)

i tried to keep it right side people who would agree most with Dutch after Dutch...? if that makes sense? so yknow Micah is first, then Bill, etc. from the left side is the people who agreed the most with Arthur/John...so Hosea, Charles, lenny, etc.

Arthur facing John, Hosea facing Dutch, Charles facing Micah is on purpose teehee (Kieran is also kinda facing Mary-Beth but you can call bullshit and i'll accept it)

Jack is the only boyo between the women cuz he stands with his momma

i thought Arthur and John's hat bonking was p funny

idk what else to say, i've probably forgoren a lot but idc so...

these designs are 100% not perfect but i am p satisfied with most overall, lemme know what you think!

also....

i don't have any fucking clue why person's eyes are the only ones like that please someone fix him whats wrong with him help get him eye contacts or something PLEASE--

[olinits]

My friend's had an idea that Mac and Bill could have been really close friends since Bill respects him, and he doesn’t respect anybody, so

[dalekofchaos]

Context.

Scenario 1. We take Landon Rickets in Blackwater more serious and Landon saw what Dutch did and when he has the opening, Landon shoots Dutch dead. Hosea and Arthur gather everyone and lead them on a path to get lost in the west, gather their strength. Hosea makes the complete opposite of Dutch's decisions throughout the game and the gang is better off for it.

Scenario 2. Arthur arrives very late and sees Thomas Downes is having a coughing fit and collapses and figures that this debt isn't worth it. So Arthur never catches TB. He has his same character arc because he sees that Dutch is losing it and Micah is...Micah. Differences is. Arthur easily overpowers Milton and Arthur kills Micah.

Scenario 3. Arthur takes it upon himself to take responsibility and care for Eliza and Isaac. Turns out Eliza can contribute to the gang. She has a history of pickpocketing when tips as a waitress were low or nonexistent and under Hosea's tutelage, she's a damned good con artist. Isaac takes a liking to "Grandpa Hosea" and "Ol Dutch" the girls adore Isaac and the gang are protective of him. When Jack comes around, Isaac is like an older brother to Jack and Abigail adores him and when the Braithewaites try to steal Jack, Isaac fires a warning shot and everyone comes running to Jack's aid. Because of his family, Arthur chooses not to go after Downes and doesn't get TB. One day, Micah makes a pass at Eliza and makes an offhand comment about Isaac. And Arthur proceeds to beat the shit out of him "You come near my family again, and I'll kill you" Arthur puts his family first and chooses to get out when the writing is on the wall. When they go to free John from Piska, Abigail, Jack, Eliza and Isaac are all waiting and they leave and never look back,

Scenario 4. I know timeline wise this can't work, but it's a fun thought. Basically after Blackwater, Red is on the hunt. He is the "super bounty hunter" Trelawny warned the gang about. The Gang at first doesn't take the threat seriously, but suddenly members of the gang go missing and are delivered to the Pinkertons. Near the end, he sees the humanity in Arthur, John and his family, Charles and Sadie and helps them. Red shoots Micah dead and takes Dutch in. Arthur and John split the money and live in peace

Scenario 5.

Sadie (after chapter 3), Kieran (with his head intact), Charles Smith and Lenny. Josiah Trelawny as the heist leader.

Send the team to Blackwater, their mission is to retrieve the money.

Reasoning:

Sadie, new member of the team, no one know her as VDL gang, no big bounty yet, able to do Gun Fight.

Kieran, Horse gateaway duty. No one know him, he can be the spy to make sure that Colm team doesn't interrupt at all.

Charles, Bodyguard, gunsmith, considered safe bet, he was not in the big heist. Charles is also natural for stealth approach

Lenny, Sniper. Watching the team from the distance (from the camping spot where Arthur and co preparing to save Sean). He is also the one who can run quick back to main camp if anything happen

Josiah. The magician, the mastermind. He can safely travel anywhere, to make it a great decoy in Blackwater.

Arthur + Dutch + The rest of the gang can camping safely outside the border waiting for Lenny to come back

Scenario 6. Just a thought I had. What if Mac returned instead of Milton. But completely changed. After Blackwater and Davey's death, Mac goes through a similar journey as Arthur had and sacrifices himself so Arthur and John can escape

Scenario 7. Just had to include the absolute worst scenario possible. Micah orders Cleet and Joe to go back for Tilly and Jack. When Arthur and John are on the run, Micah yells out that he has Abigail and Jack and if the two of them don't show up to Beaver's Hollow in the next 10 minutes, then he'll kill them both. At first they don't believe him until he hears Abigail yell out for John. John rushes towards his family and is shot dead. And Arthur fights him to the death. The TB kills him and John's family is left at Micah's mercy. The trauma Jack witnesses causes amnesia. And Micah sees the opportunity to do what his father did to him. Take him under his wing and make Jack the deadliest outlaw in the world and as a final insult to Arthur and John. Jack Marston, is now Micah Bell IV

Scenario 8. After seeing how far Dutch has fallen with Micah poisoning his mind. Arthur contacts Mary and leaves with her. He asks Sadie and Charles to help John and his family and to help the girls, Pearson and Uncle leave. Mary takes Arthur away to the right climate and makes a full recovery. Eventually John, Abigail and Jack contact him. Charles and Sadie would join them shortly after helping the Wapiti tribe escape. Arthur advises them all. "Leave Micah. Revenge is a fool's game. All he did was reveal who Dutch truly is, eventually they'll both be caught or killed. Leave it all behind and don't look back." Arthur and Mary build a farm for themselves and a family and get the life Arthur always wanted with Mary. They help John and his family on Beecher's hope and all is well with the Morgans and the Marstons.

Scenario 9.

During the year that John left the gang. What if John somehow found his way to New Austin. He finds himself drifting and just thinking Abigail and the kid would be better off without him. One day he finds himself on the MacFarlane ranch. Bonnie asks for his help stopping some rustlers stealing their horses. John decides to stay and help the MacFarlanes out and somehow he finds the peace he's never had with Abigail. One thing leads to another and John falls in love with Bonnie and marries her. Meanwhile, Arthur helps Abigail take care of Jack and John's absence brings them together and they leave the gang after Molly is killed.

Scenario 10.

Hosea, Lenny, Kieran and Sean survive. Arthur convinces Molly to leave during the Saint Denis chapter and that Dutch doesn't love her and it's best if she left. Sadie and Charles return in time. Everyone stands with Arthur and they end Dutch, Micah. With half the gang against Dutch, Bill and Javier see sense and side with Arthur and John. Everyone splits the money and separates.

Scenario 11.

Arthur lives and helps John set everything up. He leaves with Sadie and kills Micah. Arthur chooses to hunt down Bill, Javier and Dutch in exchange for the Marstons freedom.

Arthur kills Bill at Fort Mercer. Arthur stealthily infiltrates Fort Mercer just like Fort Wallace. Kills Bill's gang one by one, until all that's left is Bill. "Hello Bill" "Arthur??" "I'll give you a choice come quietly or we can end this the good old fashioned way" Bill grabs his gun and Arthur shoots him dead “You were always a weak minded fool.”

Arthur hunts down Javier in Mexico. However, Arthur does not play both sides. He sees how desperate the people of Nuevo Paraíso have become. He even meets an old friend, Sister Calderon, now Mother Superior. He asks what side is right and she tells him to help Luisa and Mr Ricketts, they will help him in return.

One conversation with Reyes and Arthur sees right through him. He's nothing but a self-absorbed coward who uses the people of Mexico for his own ambitions. Instead of helping Reyes, Arthur is helping Luisa see sense and one day, Arthur and Luisa catches Reyes having an affair and Luisa kills him. The official story is Javier snuck into Reye's quarters and killed him and his mistress. Reyes Rebellion, now becomes Luisa's Rebellion.

Luisa fulfills her promise and helps Arthur find Javier.

"Well, well, well. Hello old friend." "Hello brother." "Oh, I'm your brother now, am I? "Arthur, I always loved you. I was always on your side." "Loyalty never meant that much when you stood by Dutch's side." "So what, you're taking the governments orders now?" "Look who's talking. From a revolutionary to Allende's lapdog." “Colonel Allende promised me a full pardon, all that mattered was returning home.” Arthur gets the best of Javier, lasso's him and delivers him to Ross and Fordham. Javier condemns Arthur and John. Arthur parts Javier telling him he was nothing more than a blind fool clinging to one master to another.

Arthur kills Dutch. He looks at him with disgust. “Hello Arthur, my son.” “Oh, I’m your son, am I? That didn’t mean a damned thing to you all those years ago when you chose the rat over me.” “I….I did no such thing, you and John BETRAYED ME and now you’re working for them.” “It’s either work with them to kill you or I die” and look at you, using another tribe of Indians like you used Eagle Flies. You’re pathetic.“ "If it’s all the same to you,I’d rather kill you Dutch.” During the shootout on the mountains, Arthur is mocking him for allowing the once great man to be reduced to his shell of his former self. Dutch telling Arthur he should have left him on the streets to die. Arthur mocking his lack of plan and just telling Dutch to “have some goddamn faith” When he has him on the cliff of Coachinay, Arthur just mocks him. “The great Dutch van der Linde, the man with a plan!” For the first time in his life, Dutch shows an ounce of humility and takes responsibility. “Arthur, I let him damn us all. If I had just listened to you, Hosea and John, we would’ve made it.” “If I had just let him hang, we would be in Tahiti” and Dutch falls to his death. At the end of the mountain, Arthur and Ross are by Dutch’s corpse. Arthur demanding to know if he’s finally free. Ross tells him one more mission. Kill John Marston and before Ross can say anything more, Arthur grabs Dutch’s gun and kills Ross. Fordham sees what transpires and mocks Ross “Oh trust me, it’ll look better in the report” Fordham telling Arthur what makes him think they won’t kill him. “You know why? I know too much. See, I know why you used me. Your governor Nate Johns election is coming up and he needed you and you needed me to clean up the state. Lets just say I told some folk and if word gets out I’m dead, then mr Johns won’t get reelected. You leave me and John Marston and his family alone and no one talks." And just like that, Arthur and John live.

[verdemoun]

Sean, who still sometimes calls Kieran “O’Driscoll boy”, accidentally slips up and reveals to Mac and Davey that kieran used to be an O’Driscoll before joining the Van Der Linde gang.

also i want to specify mac would rank in one of kieran's top 5 favorite people because mac's intimidation factor means whenever they are out in public people give them a wide berth and mac is always down to talk about horses even if it's just cool horse facts

sean definitely slips up but when mac asks he frantically covers his ass like aha yeah we call him o'driscoll boy cause he was killed by the o'driscolls and all ahahahaaha. mac thinks that's fucked up even for sean but rolls with it

makes a comment he doubts kieran likes being called o'driscoll boy which kieran can easily agree with. he still hates it and sean is trying to break the habit. it never completely goes away esp when they're bickering because there's still something deeply funny about how whiny kieran sounds when he says i ain't an o'driscoll

mac doesn't find out until a solid 2-3 years after mac and kieran become friends and mac is living at the ranch with bill for completely non homoerotic reasons. mac suggests they invite kieran out because he gets to ride a horse and also mac in certain he would enjoy the open space

not only does kieran love it but being on a horse is such a comfort for him he's thriving. anxiety gone, no overwhelming modern sensory issues being out on the land, and he's having the time of his life and casually bragging he already knows how to herd because he was quite the accomplished livestock rustler in his canon era days

bill, being relaxed and and having a tentative friendship with kieran, laughs and makes a comment 'not bad for an o'driscoll'

kieran pales and baulks meanwhile bill is yet to realize he fucked up. when mac immediately asks about the 'an' o'driscoll part bill starts laughing about how they found him in colter and how nervy he was. did not realize it was a secret until seeing the look on kieran's face. starts backpedalling: talking about how kieran saved arthur's life at six point cabin and he really wasn't much of an o'driscoll or at least not a very good one

just before kieran decides yeah this random horse probably trusts me enough to jump the fence and i could go live in the woods mac snickers and just says he's glad he didn't run into him in the old days because damn straight he would've killed him before asking his name. admittedly makes a lot more sense than sean trying to make a joke out of the gang that killed him, and agrees kieran doesn't look much like an o'driscoll at all

before long mac and bill are laughing so hard they're spooking the sheep at the idea of kieran in full o'driscoll garb trying to rob them and mimicking his voice trying to say 't-t-this is a robbery' meanwhile kieran is trying to argue he can be intimidating when he wants to be which just makes them laugh harder.

it's so unbelivable the idea of kieran duffy horsegirl o'driscoll, mac becomes one of the few who will correct anyone who slips up and is very effective at it with just how ruthless and terrifying he was and still is

when davey finds out it's the first time davey tries to have an actual conversation with kieran, asking him what it was like. kieran replies hell and davey's laugh is a lot less comforting. says he reckons he could've ridden with the o'driscolls if they weren't a bunch of teagues but appreciated colm's leadership tactics

kieran made the decision to never be in a room with davey again unless the gang kids were there because while the slur made his skin crawl, anyone who would even joke about riding with the o'driscolls is not someone who should be around children ever. he will very intentionally pull the kids close to stop them going anywhere near davey. the gang don't know why kieran has decided davey is a threat but find it very endearing how protective he is over the kiddos, including adult aged jack and isaac

[red-dead-cryptids]

As is my headcanon, Bill Williamson and Mac Callander had a relationship of sorts before the Blackwater Massacre. That is now canon in this AU

[shebeafancyflapjack]

Dutch: Did you boys manage to get Mac's body?

Arthur: Those sons of bitches cremated him. Here's all we could get.

Arthur: *pours pile of ash on table*

Dutch: Poor Mac. Okay, everyone, two things! Part one; we respectfully scatter our fallen brother's ashes. Part two; we find those bounty hunters.

John: *sneezes over table*

Everyone:

Dutch:

John:

Arthur: So onto part two then?

[marsismadeofgold]

Chapters: 1/5 Fandom: Red Dead Redemption (Video Games)

Women. Wives. Hostages. A funny little ecosystem Anthony’s established, kept in line of course by the ruling class of brutes he’s recruited, the ones that smoke and spit and swear and shoot whoever the fuck a Foreman tells them to. A band of brothers, Anthony calls them. Tilly just thinks they’re fools, but of course no one’s ever asking her anyway.

“You’re so young.” He says. He sounds so forlorn. Sounds like he’s in mourning. “Oh, I didn’t know they captured girls so young.” “I was younger when they got me.” She answers absently. She doesn’t think too hard about the use of the word captured, because it makes it seem like maybe tonight was inevitable. Maybe it didn’t matter that she’s fifteen and not close to sixteen neither, or that she’s still skinny like a little boy and no man in their right minds would want her. Because maybe it’s not about want to these fellers. Maybe it’s just sort of about power. And maybe, just maybe, this was always bound to happen sooner or later. She doesn’t say any of that to the hostage. She doesn’t have the time.

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New Tilly Jackson fic is up! Following her leaving the Foreman Brothers and her introduction to the Van Der Linde gang

[starryeyedstarboy]

someone should slide in my dms and talk about the callander boys with me pls

[kaliesuriens]

So Sick of the lack of content about the Callander boys that the voices of my head start to imagine them been like Miguel and Túlio from the Road to El Dorado.

[cinnamonsprinkle-stuff]

wanted to doodle my fav guys who we barely see!

(one doesn't even have a face claim, the other is only seen when he's bleeding out and sickly.)

anyways. the brothers ever

[zarkishere]

my designs for the callander boys!

ik i used the square for the chart but we don't know Mac's canon design and i didn't wanna leave anyone confused okay? okay

scars (kinda nakey) + notes bellow!

notes :

i hc the jacket Kieran uses was Davey's...so....and yes it's still a little short for Davey but not that much.

also, yes! the jacket Mac wears IS the one Davey uses when he dies...how unlucky.

in general i hc the brothers didn't really care much for appearance, as you can see, so as long as it worked, and they didn't have their junk flapping about it was fine.

i think Mac has some REALLY FUCKING BAD temper issues like you can't play dominos with him cuz he'll kick the thing away and scream (but also he feels guilty about it. he'll NEVER say sorry but you WILL find gun oil nearby your bed magically)

i hc when Mac was 10 and Davey was 7 their parents died so Mac kinda had to parent Davey (which means he's actually p okay with kids...i mean, i wouldn't leave mine with him, but he's alright)

i think they both get REALLY THICK scot accents when they get excited and sometimes people have to ask them to talk slower cuz it's impossible to tell wtf they're saying

they run hot. like insanely hot. like 'Mary-Beth worries they have a fever but they're just naturally that hot' type shit.

they used to straight up BRAWL every day in camp from the smallest thing (like you could say 'i bet 5 dollars Mac wins!!' and they'd just go at it) so Dutch made a rule no one is allowed to egg them on

i think Davey is the rowdier one, and Mac just kinda goes along with him (not that he's CALM, he's just CALM-ER). It's his baby brother, okay? yes he killed that man but cmon look at that face (Mac that's a 32 y/o man)

ALSO YEAH I HC MAC IS 35 AND DAVEY IS 32

alright i have 10 million more hcs but i don't think you care soo that's all!!! i love them!!!! idk why im so into them lately ARUGHTH ROCKSTAAAR GIVE ME MORE CALLANDER BOYS INFO AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

(also, shoutout to @eggsaladsweetie for giving me ideas! tysm!)

[thedailybullshit]

Yk what the biggest indicator is for me that Dutch was always Like That?

For the 1st 2 chapters of the game, there is the general consensus that eventually, they’re gonna go back for the Blackwater money. That they’re gonna scrape by for now, but when things settle down they’re going back for that money.

You know what they don’t plan to go back & get?

The ones they left behind.

Sure, they go & get Sean once Trelawny drops a rescue opportunity into Dutch’s lap, but if Sean hadn’t been moved out of town, he wouldn’t have been rescued.

You know how I know that? Bc Dutch never made a move to rescue Mac.

Mac could’ve been alive & well in jail, & Dutch never planned to go back for him, only for the money. & IK people had mixed opinions on the Callender boys but that wasn’t what stopped Dutch from rescuing him (see the mission where he sends Arthur to rescue Micah immediately). & it wasn’t that they were banned from Blackwater bc he always planned to go back for the money!

Nobody knew if Mac was still alive, which meant that nobody knew if Mac was dead either. For all they knew, he could’ve been alive awaiting trial or enduring torture - which he actually did endure, btw. But the gang was never going back for him bc Dutch didn’t approve a rescue mission.

& upon finding out Mac had been tortured to death for information he refused to give up? All Dutch had to say was, “That’s a shame.”

I should’ve known that Dutch never planning to rescue Mac would be an indication of how the rest of the game was gonna go & who he truly was.

[dalekofchaos]

For context about Javier. I have an idea. The first chapter would be about why Javier fled Mexico. Chapter 2-4 is about Javier's time working for Allende. Chapter 5-8 is about Javier's redemption. A bunch of Mexican revolutionaries who are tired of Reyes' corruption plan to free Javier. Javier sees this as his chance to atone for his betrayal of Arthur and John and to make things right for his people. Ideally it ends with Javier killing Reyes and helping bring true change to Mexico. Side note. We don't know if Javier was executed. John only implies it and I don't believe it's said in the newspaper at all.

For the beginning of the Van Der Linde gang. I picture it starting out with Dutch meeting Hosea in the prologue. Then meeting Arthur. I picture the meeting going like this. Arthur is on the run from the law and gets desperate and tries to run off with The Count. It bucks him off and then Dutch and Hosea take Arthur in. Then we see how Dutch saved John from a hanging. Slowly but surely we see the foundation of the gang and how the golden age of the Van Der Linde gang was like. and it ends with the Blackwater Massacre.

Context about the last choice. Sadie returns to America after a successful venture in South America. The pay is good and it looks like the days of the West are truly coming to an end. Sadie decides to take one last job and retire. She finds a wanted poster and looks at the name and is completely dumbfounded. "Jack Marston, wanted dead or alive for the murder of Agent Edgar Ross" Sadie puts two and two together and realizes what happened. She visits Beecher's Hope to see John, Abigail and Uncle's graves. She promises to help Jack or die trying. At some point she enlists Charles help and they find Jack down in Mexico. Jack surrenders when he knows it's Sadie and Charles. We would play as Jack, Charles and Sadie GTA V style. We would work together to find their redemption and clear Jack's name. It ends with Charles returning home to his family in Canada, Sadie either going back to South America or rebuilding her home and retiring in peace and with Jack writing the Red Dead book we saw in GTA V to tell the tales of his parents and Arthur Morgan and to tell the truth of what happened.

[verdemoun]

a mac and davey sidepoint i have been thinking about the callanders meeting kieran duffy

when mac and davey got out of prison they stayed with bessie and hosea which seemed fine until they walked in with their post-prison hand-me-down clothes and cold stares and mac immediately asked 'who is that'

at no point had they thought to mention kieran duffy and completely forgot he was not part of the gang when the callanders were alive

hosea immediately had flashbacks to one of the times they ran into the o'driscolls when the callanders were alive and mac running out of bullets and instead charging at fleeing o'driscolls with his hunting knife while head to toe sadie ala horsemen apocalypse covered in blood and started to sweat

not to mention the waves of panic coming off kieran was palpable and the fact he hadn't already sprinted to his room and shut the door was a prime example of the fight-flight-freeze response kicking in

hosea plastering on a conman smile and quickly explaining oh this is kieran duffy we picked him up in colter unfortunately he didn't get to ride with us too long before the o'driscolls picked him up plsdon'tlookintothat he's a gentle soul, doesn't say too much modern era is quite overwhelming for him

lightbulb moment quickly interrupts himself kieran took care of the horses!! kieran you'd remember the two tennessee walker studs we had around camp they were mac and davey's mounts

kieran snaps his head around faster than the korean ghost comic meanwhile mac actually laughs a little because he can't believe they kept mace and thistle who were as unruly to handle as their owners

kieran cannot help himself he is a mile-a-minute infodumping about what good horses they were and how he figured out just where they liked to be scratched to avoid getting bit and their favorite treats and absolutely losing his mind when he finally, finally finds out their names because the gang didn't know

the solid chestnut was mac's horse mace and he's genuinely happy to talk about his horse because he is a bit of a secret horse girl himself. it isn't long before he's sitting on the couch talking to this slightly strange man: asking questions about branwen when kieran talks about his own horse and how mace was doing and laughing about kieran retelling mace's antics about mace trying to walk himself into camp and pinning his ears back whenever someone tried to catch him

davey already sees kieran as a threat because mac isn't allowed to have friends that is His brother but kieran is blissfully unaware of the glare he's getting because he's talking about horses he's invincible

[zarkishere]

He also dies unaware of his brother's well-being We as players know Mac lived a little more and then (probably) got tortured and killed by the Pinkertons, seeking information out of the already dying man, but Davey didn't

The brothers didn't know of each other's status as they died

i imagine they both tried to hold on a little longer, just a bit longer, because maybe they'd survive and be able to look for one another

but they both died, far away from one another

people always talk abt how Arthur died not knowing if anyone else survived and stuff but what about Davey Callander??

yeah, we didn't know him or get to see him alive in the game, but you still have to think. Davey died in Colter not knowing if the Pinkertons would find the gang while they were in the mountains. he didn't know if they'd freeze to death or starve, either.

he died with absolutely no reassurances, just that he had barely survived the presumable days long travel to The Grizzlies, then to Colter, only to die without ever knowing if the gang would live on.

but not only did Davey die in Colter, it's obvious that he was dead before they even got him indoors. and god only even really knows how long he had really been dead because the temperatures would've diminished his body heat completely before they could pronounce his death.

Davey had held out for so long, only to die as soon as we, the player, are even introduced to him. we know he had a brother, Mac, we know that Micah thought highly of the Callander brothers, we know that Charles and Lenny didn't show much of a liking to Mac and Davey, we know that the brothers were rowdy, we know that Davey had been shot fatally, and we know that Davey played a lot of poker, that is it. we don't know anything else besides what Arthur can over hear or say in interactions about Davey. but we know that he died unaware of how the gang would crumble because of Dutch's actions, not because of them getting caught.

[nthspecialll]

Hola, Alex! I just wanted to ask for your personal opinion on what the members of the gang who died were like, which are Annabelle, Bessie, the Callander brothers (Davey and Mac), and Jenny Kirk. I want to write a fanfic that takes place in the golden years of the gang, and I would like to know if you could help me a little with that ^^

I can absolutely do my best, but you know thin matieral so most of what I will say is my assumptions made on very little.

Annabelle is the one that I find to be the most troubling person to analyse because even though she is mentioned more times than some of the others, like Jenny, we don't get to hear anything about her. We are told literally nothing, nearly every time she is mentioned it is for Dutch to justify his revenge plot. But how I would imagine her to be, with very little evidence, I would say someone a bit stubborn in the Grimshaw way. Someone who can hold Dutch's ear and keep him in check, because someone used to and it wasn't always Hosea because for some time Hosea was gone and someone else had to keep him in check, I imagine that being Annabelle.

Bessie, I would say is quite sweet, she is definately understanding and patient. We hear Hosea talk about how they tried to leave "the life" but he fell back into it and she didn't seem to mind: "She knew who she married." The two would also sit an play dominos for hours together, not only that but she taught Arthur to play as well. She was at least someone Hosea cared a lot for as he mentions her changing his life as well as being drunk for a whole year after. He also talks about how protecting her was the one good thing he was meant to do in his miserable life.

As for the Callander brothers, both are described to be very violent men, with Mac threatening to kill a whole town and beating up fifteen sailors (imply he was quite strong) and Davey being a big drunk and poker player, saying it "builds character." The two also were quite loud, taking up a big space in the camp that "won't be the same without them." Despite these negative things, the majority of characters seem to mourn them and regret their passing, Bill even trying to imply that Mac was a bit on the softer side "he was a heartless son of a bitch, but he had a heart." The two were probably a strong duo who got shit done, maybe in a bit of a stupid and risky way.

According to Hosea, Jenny "had a spark" in her, suggesting she was a bit more of a up and about, happy type of person. She liked to play dominos and she liked to swim. Lenny had a strong liking to her yet she was probably the closest with Javier, mentioned by Karen. Due to the fact she was with the others in Blackwater, we can assume she was an active criminal with a few tricks up her sleeve.

I like to think about these five and I think it is quite sad we don't know more about them but yeah, that is what we know! Thank you for the question and I that answers it :D