#mabelland

[cartoonfan7]

Gonna be honest, I'm a bit disappointed that the fandom hasn't really tried to extrapolate what a Dipperland would be like, a dream bubble prison meant to entice specifically Dipper into staying the way Mabelland did for Mabel, particularly since we know what Mabelland was originally going to show Dipper thanks to the episode commentaries. I'd like to think that in contrast with Mabelland, which was very obviously indulging in Mabel's desire to escape into fantasy and never grow up, to the point that Mabel is somewhat aware of what Mabelland is doing, if not to what extent, why, or what's really outside of it, Dipperland would essentially leave Dipper in the dark about being in a prison and essentially play an idealized version of his life on fast-forward, where he and Mabel get to stay in Gravity Falls, he gets to study under Ford, their parents move to Gravity Falls, and several other things happen that sound too good to be true if they happened all at once, but the time skips/dream logic causes Dipper to not question it that much. Like, Ford eventually bringing Tyrone back, for example.

[ilikelookingatthings]

gravity falls bonus parallels

anyone else think about how Stan might have been drawn to dipper a bit cuz he reminded him of little ford....and while we get that ford saw alot of himself in dipper (what with both being slightly overthinking paranoid nerds who like ddnd and weird supernatural stuff and gaving a birth mark that sets them apart a bit(though fkrds was more noticeable with his hands)...and the ford projected his dynamic with stan between dipper and mabel so didn't see mabel as reliable enough to try to teach as often to.

But I keep thinking......what if ford actually was seeing STAN in dipper as well?

We know despite his denial he felt a void since he didn't fight his dad on kicking Stan out that he tried to distract himself with college and vengeance to prove he didnt need that other school and his friend fiddleford and anomalies which he couldn't quite fill and that bill had taken advantage off ford's need for a deep connection and close companion because deep down ford DID miss his best friend/bro Stan.

So....while I get Ford's desire for a companion who gets it and being drawn to the similarities dipper had with himself......but I wonder if he was also drawn to dipper cuz he was subconsciously trying to fill the Stan shaped hole by his side with another little boy who didn't have glasses because the mental image of stan he has doesn't have glasses.

A subtle reminder that who he really wants is stan even if ge's to stubborn to see it.

And while there is the obvious parallel with how ford was given a big opptunity that fit his interests that would separate him from Stan that Stan felt worried about abs accidentally messed up cuz he didn't want to lose fore a d how dipper was offered the apprentiship and mabel torn between not wanting dipper yo resent if he missed a opportunity he would enjoy but also very much not wanting to be left behind by dipper which resulted in her messing up with blenden blanden ect ect.

And how dipper chooses hjs dynamic with Mabel over staying in gravity falls and growing with Mabel and forgivness and understanding to contrast how ford hadn't fully accepted it was accident and how sorry stan was and had let that ruined oppottunity/project separate ford from stan and stay stuck on that one point.

But lowkey from another angle and a squint dipper has parallels with stan and mabel has similarities to Ford.

Because emotions can be weird....like....stan accidentally messed up the project abd was kicked out by the dad and ford didn't fight for stan to stay so at fjrst glance you can only see Stan being the one feeling abandoned.....from from firds persoectuve stan messed up hjs project despite knowing how important it was to ford...didn't try to tell him about it before hand...so ford seed it a a betrayal or stan abandoning him first cuz they can't really go against the dad.

Like....I wonder if ford had felt hurt or abandoned by stan first and like stan chose to leave him or made it so with his actions like Mabel felt at the authority figure ford bringing up leaving mabel to dipper.

And how it makes a parallel to how due to feeling alone despite being told they'd be fine without their twin.....they were taken advantage of by someone they thought they could trust in bill/blenden blanden bill.

Where both ford and mabel kind of tried to distract themselves with their interests....Ford with his interest in studies or anomalies for example.....Mabel with Mabel land....both trying to distract themselves from things going to shit outside their bubble like how ford had been in denial about bill til more affects on fiddleford were revealed....and trying to fil that void with a cooler 'better' replacement for their twin....like dipper fresh and how bill echoes askects if sfan while being smart and flattering and always able to get into ford's head.

Where both Mabel and Ford struggled for a while to listen to dipper and stan....how the bubble gets popped but Mabel and Ford both felt bad once they finally accepted how bad Bill's plans were and their hand in making that possible even if both were tricked.

But like stan....dipper didn't guve up on Mabel and chose her just as stan never gave up on ford....

Like dipper having that talk with Mabel in the court scene is chef kiss....but I weirdly felt a echo of how dipper got through to mabel in how ford reacted to stan doubling down in his actions with the final switcharoo in how it proves how much stan cares and how any niggling thoughts that stsn hurt him on purpose out if jealous or not caring enough to not be careless was fully put to rest(even if it wasn't just for ford...Stan did that to protect the twins and everyone but still).

Mabel in trying to lie to herself and her feelings that dipper fresh could be a real replacement even thoigh you KNOW that to her dipper couldn't really be replaced like hoe ford lied to himself he didn't need Stan abd living through distractions in his weird bubble.

And both ford and mabel have dated multiple fantasy creatures and a sort of semi evil friend/ex in fiddleford and Gideon who created sort of cults and semi reformed a little to give the other a piece that could help that spread the amount of people involved.

That their brothers of dipper and stan had to help them out with. Both dipper and stan were the ones who gave mabel and ford a little extra push(NO PORTAL PUN INTENDED FOR STAN BTW) get get away from the aweful ex.

I mean yet ford was obsessed with taking bill down pre falling in portal ect but dude was still protecting the journal from being burned by stan even if it would be safer to destroy than to hide it which showed he hadn't quite left the bubble of how he told himsekf he'd be fine without stan abd would be famous and scomplished and prove everyone wrong ect.

And dippers weres a hat with a icon and so does stan.....and ford and mabel both wear sweaters....I mean the obvious similarities are still Dipper and Ford with Mabel and Stan....but it's really interesting if you tried to read things the opposite way abd search for parallels the twins share with the other twin.

Just....wanted to mention some of the stan dipper parallels and ford mabel parallels.

Any extra thoughts you guts want to add just write in a reblog or a note.

Any other parallels you guys noticed?

[johnnycatalina]

I had forgotten about this one!

Well, this is it. The single worst thing I’ve ever posted on the internet. I don’t know what kind of feverish madness I was in when I first suggested this, but shame on you for holding me to it, anon.

[baddecisionsgoooo0]

Supey-Doo

So i had a thought.

Super-man, but he thinks he only has his powers when he eats a treat made by Martha Kent.

I see two ways, either

(a) The Kents live in Coolville, and so Clark is part of the Scooby gang growing up/ in his teens. He gets a love of mysteries that help him connect with Batman. he can call his old gang in at any time for help. Scooby still exists. there'd also be a lot of misunderstandings.

The Justice league is on a case and Superman's just like, "Imma call my old gang, see if they know anything." And everyone else is like "the big blue boyscout was in a gang???"

Super man eats a lot of Ma Kent's baking to "keep" his powers, and the justice league just assumes he needs more calories than usual. and then Superman makes some comment about how the treats give him his powers, and that his mom made them, and Batman is just like "... is she experimenting on him? what?" And superman's just happily oblivious.

Or

(b) certain members of the justice league form a young detective agency, and Superman's just their mascot. Like, sure he could beat down a god if he really wanted too, but he's find just being emotional support.

[thereareeyesinsidethetrees]

ae'm not having a good day ae can't handle spiders rn

[godsfavoritescientist]

Me: I will write an outline for my Bill-comes-back fic

Me 30 min later: has written down an outline for a prequel fic instead of for the fic itself

[girlsnightgirlsnight]

my pitch for s3. link wakes up. the whole of s2 was a vr-exsperience. And then s3 is exploring what would happen if willy went after normal rather than scary

Does Link ever worry about getting sucked out of his life with Jerry and Sacry and waking up from the ep.2 simulation?

[brittle-doughie]

So, Eternal Sugar update is going to be about false paradise, aka Mabelland bubble, I am sure by the end, when Hollyberry awakens, that "paradise" is going to be ruined and reveal its true nature, becoming land of nightmares.

Leave, before the demon arrives…

[fangirlingpuggle]

so in the bio billford side au where bill is thinks the twins are toddlers because of lifespan differances is mabelland just like, the all powerful dream demon version of those baby sensory videos

HA! I love that idea it's just Bill putting the equivalent of Ipad video on for baby.

Bill: Here kiddo you watch this I gotta destroy the world and get your brother and dad.

[shmlnbstrcnd]

It's so funny when morons use "The Deep End" and "Time Traveller's Pig" as evidence for Mabel being selfish, when those are in fact episodes where DIPPER was being the selfish one lmfao.

Saving a stranded kid and reuniting him with his family >>>>> pool time with a girl you have ZERO chance with, whom you already see every other fucking day at the Shack anyway.

Saving a pig from being eaten and adopting it >>>>> sabotaging a girl's chosen relationship and removing her choice because YOU want to have her even though you have ZERO chance with her.

If you have ever used those episodes to bash Mabel instead of Dipper, you might actually be braindead.

"B-but what about Mabel causing Weirdmageddon"

What about Dipper losing all the candy they collected because of his one-sided crush and almost getting everyone killed by the Summerween Trickster? What about Dipper summoning zombies, almost getting Soos and the two agents killed, and showing zero remorse for the latter two when he thought they were dead? What about Dipper kidnapping a random monster and exposing two innocent people to it, causing insanity and hospitalization? At least Mabel was confirmed by Alex Hirsch to have been under a trance in Mabelland. What's Dipper's excuse? He's 12? So is Mabel.

[millenianthemums]

I wanted to say that your au for bill cipher and mabel is so adorable I saw the one we're bill gets a new hat and mabel find what was left of his world it was so heartwarming! please keep it up! I love this au and I can't wait to see what happens next but I am curious I know that bill has some nightmares in the past but dose mabel have some too?

thank you so much!!! i definitely plan to keep working on it for as long as possible!

and yes Mabel does have nightmares. a lot of them, actually. she feels SUPER guilty and responsible for Weirdmaggeddon, which is part of why she’s so determined to help Bill become a better person. she wants to personally make sure nothing like that ever happens again so she can finally stop feeling so guilty. she also has nightmares and paranoia about still being stuck in Mabelland. so basically her biggest emotional hangups are entirely Bill’s fault, which really sucks for him when he starts caring about her. they’re not ALL directly caused by him, but most of her worst nightmares are either about Weirdmaggeddon or about not being able to save somebody she loves.

[notrecommendedforlife-blog]

eyes, eyes, eyes / pines, pines, pines

Stanford Pines

Bill’s constant possession had the added caveat of causing his eye to bleed and throb with pain, as well as becoming slightly less pigmented with every possession

Even though he wasn’t possessed by Bill for 30 years, his eye continued to loose pigmentation

His right eye is more sensitive, especially to light

Despite everything, Ford has the most normal eyes in his family

Stanley Pines

The Memory Gun only left scars on Fiddleford because of his overuse of the weapon, but he never tried to erase his entire existence from himself — the amount of memories, along with a multidimensional demon, took a lot of power

Despite the intensive scaring in his eyes, Stanley still sees just as well as he did before (which isn’t that well cause he’s an old man with cataracts ((which I forgot to add)) but you get my point)

He could do without the constant sad/guilty owl eyes Ford keeps giving him when he thinks Stan isn’t looking

Mabel Pines

Mabel noticed after her trip through the multiverse when Eyeball Mabel commented on it

MabelLand and Bill casted a haze of cotton candy and glitter, a haze her twin lifted — because of this, Mabel never sees the rings as a curse left by Bill, but instead a reminder of how much she’s grown and changed and how much her family cares for her

Now, whenever she feels really angry or rage her eyes will glow brighter — or, as Dipper told her, when she gets really, really into a new crafting project

Dipper Pines

Dipper didn’t notice until Mabel brought up the pink left in her eyes

While Ford was also possessed, it was slightly different from Dipper’s possession — Ford could only be possessed by Bill when he was sleeping or meditating — Dipper’s soul was ripped from his body and he was technically dead, leaving his eyes glowing the same color as the ghosts in Gravity Falls

Like Mabel, when he feels an intense emotion — in his case, happiness and love for his family — his eyes will either glow slightly or very brighter

[allycantfindauser]

WELCOME TO MABELLAND!!! 💫

[cravingpepsimax]

entirely unrelated to anything youve been posting but mabill is making me ill right now. nobody gets them like i do. especially like. dark mabill. like everyone’s seen those “oOoOo what if ford was secretly actually working with bill” aus. let mabel be evil. mabel deserves to be a fucked up monster taking over the world with an evil triangle demon boyfriend. she’s had so many flop romances if she’s gotta be a little bit evil for this one to not be a flop then she gets to be a little bit evil. as a treat.

GOATED GOATED GOATED

considering mabel (unknowingly!) already did that in canon... like. ok all i'm saying is it'd be funny if she was in mabelland, was left there for long enough for her to find out, and was like "damn!!! he could do that? i'm in" JFDSKLJFKLS

i think at first mabel would come in with good intentions -- bill's lamented mabel being so much like him and yet not being evil enough, the other way around could happen, too! mabel's got a big heart and i could totally see her looking at bill and going "i can fix him" JSDKLFJSL

i'm not super into mabill but it is fun imagining their dynamic, romantic or not. i think their dynamic would involve a LOT of projection on both sides. mabel's chaotic and hedonistic with a bit of a selfishness streak and bill's going "SHE'S JUST LIKE ME FR" while bill's fun-loving and loud and also happens to spoil her so mabel's going "he's just like me fr!!". truly the ultimate "i can fix him/i can make her worse" dynamic.

tho i do think bill would eventually realize mabel's redemption plan but at this point, he likes her, and it's wayyy better for her to not try to defeat him (he does NOT want that zodiac to work EVER) so he'd totally play into it while also slowly corrupting her. telling her about his backstory the same way he did w ford. mabel's a very fantastical person so she'd totally be like "omg........................... tragic backstory reveal......... redemption arc is a GO" meanwhile their interactions are like

bill: HEY THERE SHOOTING STAR WANT ME TO MAKE THIS UNICORN NOT A TOTALLY BORING WAD mabel: i dunno... isn't making someone they're not kinda bad? bill: YEAH BUT NOBODY ELSE WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS UNICORN BEING BAD IT'S A NET POSITIVE mabel: hm.. you're right! go for it bill, zapping that unicorn and giving them an entirely different personality and making them submit to his will: SEE? THIS IS WHY I LIKE YOU! YOU GET IT mabel: :D

just. constantly playing into mabel's selfishness and how she treats things like fiction to make her into a worse and worse person while she lets it happen because she still thinks of herself as Doing Good because she is Redeeming Bill and that's better than destroying him, right??? (at first it's in an abstract sense but she legitimately starts to like/love him so it becomes personal)

peak as hell. do you think she'd draw him like those tumblr sexyman designs? discuss.

[ckret2]

You know, sometimes I think about how Mabelland had the things inside have four different reactions when Mabel decided to leave

1. Most of them became nightmare monsters.

2. The two dreamy boy lads stayed the same.

3. The Mabel copies just disappeared.

4. Waddles was just put in there and reverted to normal.

I wonder why they were so varied?

my explanation is:

They WERE nightmare monsters right from the start; they were a part of Bill's bubble, psychically influenced by Mabel's thoughts but separate from her.

Xyler & Craz weren't part of the bubble. Bill created Xyler & Craz back in Dreamscaperers; Journal 3 has Mabel reference going back to sleep so she can see her "dream boys" again; they were drawn out of Mabel's own mind and thus, during the weird conditions of Weirdmageddon, could be projected from her mind out into the real world. When the bubble turned on her, they didn't because they were never tied to the bubble.

Most things in the world are just there; but Mabel summons up her clones with a clap. This may means that they're more akin to holograms rather than physically constructed out of disguised nightmare monsters like most things in the world. Once their job was done, they poofed away just like they came. On top of that, the Mabel copies were made to directly reflect Mabel's identity/thoughts. How could they turn against her? So of course when the bubble turned on Mabel they couldn't stay.

That was just Waddles.

I think it's hilarious/adorable that at some early point in all the carnage and chaos of Weirdmageddon, Bill must have just,, run across Waddles and went "Oh hey! That's Shooting Star's raw pork chop! Sure, I'll toss him in her bubble, she'd like that." Like he didn't have to do that, the bubble could've made a dream Waddles.

[t1rkb]

You ever wonder about the fact that when Dipper sacrifices for Mabel he can choose the selfish route and not do it and still be fine in Mabel's expense

Whereas when Mabel sacrifices for Dipper choosing the selfish route would not end well no matter what giving her only one choice in the matter that ends well for Dipper

Its the fact that he's resisting the temptation because despite benefitting no matter what, he'll choose the one where everyone he loves is happy

For Mabel its the fact that she will do the same for Dipper because she appreciates him, and she'll return that favor no matter what

Dipper is rewarded for sacrificing for Mabel, because Mabel will outright return the favor in the same episode

The Deep end doesnt count but its Mabel saving someones life so it gets a pass

Mabel doesnt get rewarded for sacrificing for dipper because she doesnt need to be, she's content with just dipper because he's always been there for her

there is no benefit for her in sock opera or WMG2 if she chooses to be selfish

there is benefit for dipper in time traveller's pig if he ever chose to be selfish

To expand more on the last part I put

For Dipper:

Time Travellers Pig: Dipper can choose to leave Mabel there and he'd get off scot free

Or fix the time line and Mabel will return the favor for him

The Deep end: Dipper can leave Mabel to save mermando herself and quit his job anyways because wendy gets fired

Or help Mabel save Mermando and wendy still gets fired

Weirdmageddon 2: Dipper can take the apprenticeship anyways and leave Mabel behind or grow up with Mabel being by eachothers side

Dipper has to resist being selfish and gets rewarded for doing the right thing.

For Mabel:

Sock Opera: Either she can sacrifice the play and everything she worked hard for or her brother stays possessed by Bill

Weirdmageddon 2: She can exile Dipper, Soos, and Wendy and live in mabelland but the world will end anyways or she can go with Dipper back home but He makes the decision to stay or not

Mabel asks for nothing in return other than her brother by her side.