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i think a lot of the reason why antishippers have been so much more of a problem recently is bc everyone assumes that if you say something sucks or even just voice personal dislike, it has to be because it is somehow Morally Bad, or else you’re being an asshole. and that means a lot of people end up relying on disgust as a moral compass, which is a terrible way to define one’s morality!

like, obviously, i’m not saying people should harass people or make cringe blogs or whatever. but i think someone should be able to like. joke with their friends about seeing something and going “ew” without having to do the seinfeld “NOT THAT THERE’S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT” bit. or say they think some kind of art is bad without having to be like “it’s ok if you like it!! it’s just not for me”

because it’s not that the sentiment being expressed is bad, being able to think something is bad or gross and not deciding no one should like it ever is good and important. it’s the fact that it’s even mentioned in the first place. when someone says “x is bad/gross”, the default assumption should be “they are expressing their own opinion/reaction to it”. you should have to SPECIFY if you are doing some kind of moral analysis of the work, or the fetish, or the ship, or what-have-you, but that’s assumed to be the default meaning! why??

if i say “alice x bob is a bad ship”, and you respond with “there’s nothing wrong with alice x bob!”, you are Not making an argument, and you are assuming that i am assigning some kind of moral judgement to alice x bob. something being of poor quality and something being evil are two different things

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the artist is leecheenkussmut !!! please........ come back .......... we Need you,

and yea i wouldn't even say two people who are related dating the same person, or even fucking the same person At Separate Times, is necessarily incestuous (though i feel like you kinda have to address the undertones in fiction, bc in real life shit just happens, but fiction is... fiction. it's planned. you decided to have these two siblings date the same person Give Us A Reason For Making That Choice), but when it's like. a threesome? i don't have any siblings so idk maybe it's Different but the idea of having sex with anyone while any of my relatives were even in the same room, much less being actively involved? NOOOOOOOOOOPE. NO THANK YOU. EW EW EW EW.

and that's pretty much how fiddlestanwich is always depicted, isn't it? like, it's even in the name -- it's a stanwich, he's getting squished between the two, it's not like he Happens to be dating stan and ford separately who also Happen to be twins

Heh. Heh heh. Stanf!ddlesford. Stan F!ddles Ford.

Realistically though, what if Stan and Ford already got over their incest guilt and now Fiddleford had to get over the incest guilt? And Stan and Ford are like “We already went through this JUST GET OVER YOURSELF BITCH”

Fiddleford comes from incest central anyways and besides, he’s not even the blood related one here.

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honestly, posts like these really remind me that so many people just. don't see shipping as a vehicle for character exploration. in the slightest.

like, i'm not saying that you have to ship 100% canon-compliant stuff. that's not what i mean. i LOVE crackships, and it's precisely BECAUSE i see shipping as an exercise in character exploration! it's interesting to think about what the dynamic between 2 characters that never interacted could be like, including in a romantic context. (i recently found some art on deviantart of ford and robbie -- some of it was shipping, but there was one person in particular that drew a bunch of art of ford being like. robbie's father figure? that's fucking peak. why have i failed to consider the opportunities of platonic crackshipping, that's dope as fuck. anyways i am now a platonic and romantic robford(?) stan)

but. when people say "there are so many characters you could ship x with that aren't y," it reminds me that so many people just. don't think of shipping in these terms at all. and there isn't anything wrong with that, per se -- shipping can be used as a form of analysis, but it doesn't have to be. it's not that serious. but what i find interesting about shipping is so ingrained into me that i entirely forget that these people are Real and Out There and, just like how the idea of shippers like these is baffling to me, shippers like me are probably baffling to them!

it's like. imagine if you're super into food, like, the intricacies of how tastes work and combine with each other, the kind of person that says "wow, i'm tasting some strong gooseberry undertones" while drinking white wine. and then you see someone who describes themself as a foodie and you're like "omg same!!" and then u find out that they're the type of person that eats this

like ok there's nothing wrong w that and you're not gonna say they're not a food enthusiast but like you were Not expecting that . and you think maybe there should be different words because this is such a massive gap in meaning it's not even funny

this posts makin me giggle

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The Twincest Ship of the Day is:

Stanford "Ford" Pines & Stanley "Stan" Pines from Gravity Falls!

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working on the stancest adopt (the one i posted here) and . man. i have NO idea how 2 price adopts lmao

on the one hand i don't wanna underprice myself right cuz i wanna b compensated 4 my work properly but i also don't wanna overprice her and have no one buy her 😭 i'm currently lining & coloring her in moho which means i'll be able to add her svg/moho/etc files as add-ons for extra money but like. should i have those in and just increase the price??? i have no idea what her base price should be either OTL

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how it feels to not gives a fuck or shit

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Au where Dipper didn't find the page on karaoke in time and Stan told Mabel to grab his brother and grappling hook through the trees until they couldn't see the shack anymore, and once they were gone Stan kept fighting until he couldn't anymore, dozens of bites on his arms when he fell back into the house, sick and cold and hungry. Most of the zombies left when there weren't any humans left, and when the sun rose they crumbled to ash. Stan stayed inside, gnawing on his own already bloodied arm and trying not to think about how much he wanted the flesh under his teeth to be alive. He couldn't have the kids back, couldn't have anyone anywhere near the house while he was like this. He locked the doors and only peeked out at night. He found the journal Dipper had dropped when Mabel grabbed him, and he had almost forgotten his brother, his memory decaying along with his body, he used the journals to get the portal up and running as soon as he could - before he forgot his brother's name was not his own, before he forgot the last thing he had ever said to him: "Stanley, do something" and he intended to, in a race against his own body's decomposition.

By the time the portal started working, his eyes had clouded over and withered and rotted into his skull, the tendons holding his jaw in place hung low and awkward, flies had started burrowing into the bites on his arms, he couldn't remember the smell of the ocean or how his mother looked or why there were children upstairs yelling a name he didn't recognize but he remembered Stanford and he remembered that he needed to get Stanford back and all the rumblings that sent his corpse falling into hard concrete floors and breaking more bones meant that Stanford would be back soon, and he didn't know what he would do when Stanford was back, maybe eat him, he was so hungry, but no he couldn't because Stanford wouldn't be back if he was eaten would he. Maybe Stanford would feed him. Maybe Stanford would kill him in a way that stuck, and didn't leave him feeling every corroding cell in this damn body. Maybe Stanford would eat him. That would be nice.

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FJSDLKFJSLDKFDSJKL tysm!!!! it's funny -- i think of my life as pretty boring, and then whenever i drop some lore people are like "?????" LMAO. i feel like my mindscape would be. yk how stan's mindscape is kinda mc escher-esque? mine would be like a jackson pollock painting. you walk in and it's just

also YEAHHHHH WE'RE INCESTMAXXING it's hilarious how much of a gateway drug stancest ended up being actually. at first i was conflicted and then i went "ok this is an Exception . this is an Exception i normally don't like incest but i will make an exception for them" and now i'm like "hmmmmm. pretty good ship. you know what would make it BETTER"

fiddlestanwich is truly the schrodinger's cat of incest. like on the one hand it is absolutely 100% super incestuous just by virtue of the concept. like 2 people can date the same person and not be dating each other, i know that, i am polyamorous, but. having a threesome -- which is pretty much how it's always depicted -- with your sibling is . hm. strange.

however. on the other hand. that one fiddlestanwich artist on twitter who either didn't ship stancest or was a part of the secret society whose friends were like "ermm this is kinda incest-y :/" and stopped drawing it? my personal 9/11. actually not really my 9/11 is when billford surpassed stancest on ao3. the fiddlestanwich incident was more like. my personal pearl harbor.

frankly if i could make fidds 100% related without bringing up the whole "wait why does he look so different" problem i would . but alas

Heh. Heh heh. Stanf!ddlesford. Stan F!ddles Ford.

Realistically though, what if Stan and Ford already got over their incest guilt and now Fiddleford had to get over the incest guilt? And Stan and Ford are like “We already went through this JUST GET OVER YOURSELF BITCH”

Fiddleford comes from incest central anyways and besides, he’s not even the blood related one here.

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I feel really stupid... What are adopts? I thought I knew but I don't think I do...

no worries anon!!!

adopts are short for adoptables, which are basically character designs/ocs you can buy. i say character designs/ocs, since how much character info comes with the adoptable varies -- some are literally just designs, some come with names, some come with generic personality descriptors ("tomboy", "reckless", "silly", "smart", etc), and -- while i haven't seen them -- i wouldn't be surprised if there are super in-depth adoptables that have full-on backstories and shit.

shipping grids, in the context of adoptables, are basically a choose-your-own-parentage for fankid adopts. here's an example:

so, if you wanted to buy a raritwi adopt, you'd pay for the slot A1. if you wanted AJ/Cadance, you'd pay for slot E4, etc

as you can see, sometimes they're called breeding charts, but i prefer the term "shipping grid" because i am a filthy, filthy homestuck.

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me wanting to make one of those shipping grid adoptable things with different eras of stan and ford vs me wanting to make adopts BEFORE i make one of those so ppl know what kind of adopts i make, also i'm already making one vs the fact that the one i'm making is ALREADY based on old!stancest vs the fact that i've ALREADY POSTED A PREVIEW OF HER SO SHE WOULDN'T FIT INTO THE SHIPPING GRID vs MAKING TWO DIFFERENT FANKID ADOPTS with the SAME PARENTS,

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ngl, until you said "he’s not even the blood related one here," i was entirely expecting it to be that fiddleford was like... a lost long brother, or something. maybe filbrick had an affair with fidds' mom.

which. gives me an idea. fidds grows up poor without a dad (n', in all likelihood, plenty of siblings) with a LOT of resentment. his family was poor, dirt poor, and a part of it was because of the fact he and his siblings were being raised by a single mom. this is where a lot of his educational motivation comes from -- first mcgucket to go to college. because he wants to be able to provide a better life for his family.

(this also makes even sadder if fidds ends up abandoning emma-may and tate for stan & ford. you yo daddy's son)

eventually, being the genius he is, he manages to track down filbrick as his father, and finds out he's got his own family. wonderful. he ends up contacting filbrick, obviously, but to make sure he can't just sweep it under the rug, he ends up contacting caryn, stan, and ford as well.

i'm assuming this is a mystery trio-type scenario? maybe ford's currently living with stan. since this is a mystery trio au, i'm assuming the science fair incident never happened, which either means

a. ford went to west coast tech, or

b. ford didn't make the perpetual motion machine, ended up having multiple picks for college instead of Literally Just One, and ended up attending a university that -- while not as prestigious as west coast tech -- was still not backupsmore.

regardless, this means ford would've never even met fidds.

stan's a family man, so he'd immediately be like "ok we have to invite him over and meet him Immediately. maybe even let him stay the night." while ford's a lot more reluctant -- since he's already dating stan in this scenario, he doesn't want to have to worry about pretending to be Totally Platonic Brothers in his own damn home. plus, ford just doesn't like other people.

but, eventually, he concedes to inviting fidds over, and letting him stay over ONE night if they absolutely have to.

until they both end up getting along fantastically with fidds.

at first, ford's jealous as FUCK -- stan's always been the more outgoing one, so he and fidds immediately get along well, bonding over filbrick being an asshole and just... being super chill w each other. ford hates this, and is competitive, so he tries to intellectually flex on fidds by telling him about some advanced engineering stuff he's working on. ford found out he graduated from backupsmore -- how smart could he be?

fiddleford IMMEDIATELY understands what ford's talking about, and actually seems pretty excited.

fidds starts rambling about how he's always had a love for engineering and computer science, how one of his favorite pastimes has been robotics -- why, when he was jus' a tyke, he built a machine ta' help 'round the farm -- and ford is just. shocked. ford tries to keep flexing on him, but fidds always understands, and ford keeps trying until it stops being flexing and is just. a genuinely enjoyable conversation about science and technology that he would've never had with stan. he seems genuinely interested in the paranormal, too, which takes ford aback -- oftentimes, the intelligent dismiss his work, despite being scientifically rigorous, on the basis of the subject alone. he invites fidds to help them study the paranormal, which fidds accepts. if he's married and already a father to tate, he tells them the news.

anyways fidds ends up crushing on his half-brothers and is like oH NO INCEST AAAAAAAAAAA while his half-brothers are fucking each other nastystyle in secret. bonus if stan can tell and flirts with him like crazy just to see him blush

also, "Fiddleford comes from incest central anyways"? how dare you. as someone who was born in alabama (roll tide), i resent this. fiddleford was born in tennessee. "sweet home tennessee" ain't the defacto incest anthem, is it? they don't even allow first cousins t'get married there. this is stolen valor and i WILL NOT STAND FOR IT /silly

Heh. Heh heh. Stanf!ddlesford. Stan F!ddles Ford.

Realistically though, what if Stan and Ford already got over their incest guilt and now Fiddleford had to get over the incest guilt? And Stan and Ford are like “We already went through this JUST GET OVER YOURSELF BITCH”

Fiddleford comes from incest central anyways and besides, he’s not even the blood related one here.

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this is great!!! don't worry too much about whether or not you can write stan with cotard's. of course, you should strive to write it accurately, but i think it's actually really important to write characters with disorders you don't have, especially highly stigmatized ones like psychosis. it forces you to put yourself in a perspective you've never had, allowing you to sympathize with people who are often considered unsympathetic. again, you should take time to figure out how to avoid offensive tropes, but you shouldn't worry about the concept of writing cotard's.

onto the more medical side of things -- yeah, i think nervous system failure would be a concern. i do like @smiley-mcdoggington's suggestion, though -- soos didn't really act like a zombie, and i do like the idea of Pickle Brain Stan.

buuuuut i also feel like it's important to point out that, since soos didn't go Full Zombie, that means that the zombie curse isn't binary. you're not either 100% zombie or 0% zombie. which is GREAT for ford's purposes.

because, you see, avoiding nervous system failure would be extremely difficult if all ford has was science. but ford has the paranormal, ford has magic. since there's clearly a spectrum of zombification, all ford would have to do is find some way to force a specific range of zombification to occur, so that stan never dips below, say, 25%, but never exceeds 50%, or however much it becomes where it stops being cotard's + intrusive thoughts about cannibalism and goes into full "this guy's trying to kill and eat people and is also forgetting basic information", since, again, this is being triggered by zombie magic, not just... regular psychological/neurological phenomenon.

ALSO! something i wanted to add about dark!ford!!! i LOVE your idea for how a fully-dark!ford would feed into stan's delusion, and i agree that ford would really be doing it because he likes having stan as a zombie, but i wanna point something out about ford's character.

ford does terrible, shitty things, things he'd criticize in everyone else but himself. because ford is good at justifying. he will ignore his actual reasons for wanting to do things -- he doesn't have the self-awareness to even CONSIDER those -- but he'll make up a seemingly reasonable explanation for his bad behavior.

and i think that'd absolutely apply to ford here, because this is a stan that's pretty much obsessed with ford, begging him for his approval.

ford DOES see this as the purest form of stan, DOES like having stan being this devoted... but he doesn't tell himself that. what he tells himself is that he has to keep stan like this, because a fully-conscious stan ignored his warnings, and started a portal. of course, stan can't be full-zombie -- it was zombie!stan that finished fixing the portal -- but he should at least be somewhat zombie, at least brain-wise.

this also means darkest!ford's feeding of stan's delusion could exist without making ford a complete and utter monster. he's absolutely just doing it for himself -- both bc he likes stan as a zombie, and bc he is legitimately fascinated by stan, who is now his most interesting experiment -- but he tells himself he's doing it for the safety of the world. stan has to be worried, has to be somewhat convinced he's a zombie, because if he's not he might grow too independent and start messing things up again. plus, this is ford's first stable pseudo-zombie that he gets to experiment on long-term -- he'd be stupid not to do stuff like that! he's a scientist!

Au where Dipper didn't find the page on karaoke in time and Stan told Mabel to grab his brother and grappling hook through the trees until they couldn't see the shack anymore, and once they were gone Stan kept fighting until he couldn't anymore, dozens of bites on his arms when he fell back into the house, sick and cold and hungry. Most of the zombies left when there weren't any humans left, and when the sun rose they crumbled to ash. Stan stayed inside, gnawing on his own already bloodied arm and trying not to think about how much he wanted the flesh under his teeth to be alive. He couldn't have the kids back, couldn't have anyone anywhere near the house while he was like this. He locked the doors and only peeked out at night. He found the journal Dipper had dropped when Mabel grabbed him, and he had almost forgotten his brother, his memory decaying along with his body, he used the journals to get the portal up and running as soon as he could - before he forgot his brother's name was not his own, before he forgot the last thing he had ever said to him: "Stanley, do something" and he intended to, in a race against his own body's decomposition.

By the time the portal started working, his eyes had clouded over and withered and rotted into his skull, the tendons holding his jaw in place hung low and awkward, flies had started burrowing into the bites on his arms, he couldn't remember the smell of the ocean or how his mother looked or why there were children upstairs yelling a name he didn't recognize but he remembered Stanford and he remembered that he needed to get Stanford back and all the rumblings that sent his corpse falling into hard concrete floors and breaking more bones meant that Stanford would be back soon, and he didn't know what he would do when Stanford was back, maybe eat him, he was so hungry, but no he couldn't because Stanford wouldn't be back if he was eaten would he. Maybe Stanford would feed him. Maybe Stanford would kill him in a way that stuck, and didn't leave him feeling every corroding cell in this damn body. Maybe Stanford would eat him. That would be nice.

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YOU IGNORAMUS! YOUR BROTHER WAS GONNA BE OUR TICKET OUT OF THIS DUMP. ALL YOU EVER DO IS LIE AND CHEAT AND RIDE ON YOUR BROTHER!

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NEVER APOLOGIZE FOR CONTRIBUTING your mind HUGE

COTARD'S DELUSION MENTIONED!!!!!!! THERE I AM GARY!!!!!!!!

out of curiosity -- would stan still act like a zombie, or would he just think he was one, while still acting like a human? this distinction is important.

why is this important? as someone who's had cotard delusions before, i thought i was a living, walking corpse, that had basically gotten possessed. i was pretty much rotting, sure, but the rotting was a non-issue due to the aforementioned possession -- it's difficult to describe, since psychosis isn't exactly the most logical, consistent thing in the world, but. that's really the best i can describe it. i was rotting, but it wasn't an issue, except to me, who was really emotionally hung up by the whole "oh god my body is dead"

this meant that i still did things like eat. even bathed, on occasion, despite the psychotic depression -- at some point, i felt too filthy. i thought i was supposed to be rotting, and that, if i ever stopped possessing my body, i'd just... go back to my natural state of rot, but i wasn't ACTUALLY rotting.

this... might not be the case for stan.

stan doesn't have to be going full zombie or full human in this scenario, mind you. but what's his zombie percentage? is he still rambling incoherently like a zombie? is he still trying to eat people? or does he act mostly human, perturbed by a constant craving for flesh that he shouldn't have, by a constant, deep feeling of rot, like his organs and flesh were going to fall off... even though ford said he'd fix him, so he should be fine.

if stan's not in complete zombiemode, but is still dealing with the psychosis, does he just... stop? that's one of the especially terrifying things about cotard's, and i didn't even have that extreme of a case. the way you just. stop. you stop talking to people, you stop taking care of yourself, you stop caring, you are filled with a constant dread that tells you nothing truly matters and you need to get out -- hell, i've even went catatonic in the past. sure, regular depression can look like that, too, but it comes with a general lack of motivation, not being convinced you're actually dead. does he start hurting himself, just because he doesn't care about getting hurt anymore? he's dead, why does it matter if he falls down the stairs or not?

god. as someone who's dealt with cotard's, i can only imagine how much more horrific it'd have been if i actually knew, as an objective fact, that i WAS a zombie, that i WAS a walking corpse, that i WAS legitimately, genuinely rotting.

the fact that stan would've thought ford didn't inflict this upon him makes it even worse. because stan should be cured, but he isn't, why isn't he, why is this still HAPPENING, should he tell ford? no, ford would think he's crazy, but oh god why aren't these thoughts going away, it's going to happen again,

not to project but i think he should have a psychotic episode where he's catatonic and freaking the fuck out and crying about it.

Au where Dipper didn't find the page on karaoke in time and Stan told Mabel to grab his brother and grappling hook through the trees until they couldn't see the shack anymore, and once they were gone Stan kept fighting until he couldn't anymore, dozens of bites on his arms when he fell back into the house, sick and cold and hungry. Most of the zombies left when there weren't any humans left, and when the sun rose they crumbled to ash. Stan stayed inside, gnawing on his own already bloodied arm and trying not to think about how much he wanted the flesh under his teeth to be alive. He couldn't have the kids back, couldn't have anyone anywhere near the house while he was like this. He locked the doors and only peeked out at night. He found the journal Dipper had dropped when Mabel grabbed him, and he had almost forgotten his brother, his memory decaying along with his body, he used the journals to get the portal up and running as soon as he could - before he forgot his brother's name was not his own, before he forgot the last thing he had ever said to him: "Stanley, do something" and he intended to, in a race against his own body's decomposition.

By the time the portal started working, his eyes had clouded over and withered and rotted into his skull, the tendons holding his jaw in place hung low and awkward, flies had started burrowing into the bites on his arms, he couldn't remember the smell of the ocean or how his mother looked or why there were children upstairs yelling a name he didn't recognize but he remembered Stanford and he remembered that he needed to get Stanford back and all the rumblings that sent his corpse falling into hard concrete floors and breaking more bones meant that Stanford would be back soon, and he didn't know what he would do when Stanford was back, maybe eat him, he was so hungry, but no he couldn't because Stanford wouldn't be back if he was eaten would he. Maybe Stanford would feed him. Maybe Stanford would kill him in a way that stuck, and didn't leave him feeling every corroding cell in this damn body. Maybe Stanford would eat him. That would be nice.

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for no particular reason:

*other children are drawn w 4 fingers but clearly they don't have 4 fingers. it's a detail thing, kinda like how you don't draw every strand of hair. now imagine a person that had a bizarre colored blob for their hair like it's a giant mass. yyyeah it's like that

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how the fuck do you draw circular glasses in the Standard Gf Fanart Style where the glasses lens r connected like eyes but there aren't any temples . cuz these just look like Eyes