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desmyblank · 3 months ago
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A wild Dundy appears
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hickeysgodcomplex · 13 days ago
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Lt. Le Vesconte. My man. Rocks up to tell them about the carnival like he's actually come to tell them Santa just brought them a sleigh full of fresh meat and a cure for skurvy.
Like, the way he says "alright lads. We've got a bit of a benjo planned for first sunrise. Captain Fitzjames has proposed... a carnival." With the most smarmy fucking face I've ever seen. Who the fuck is this guy!?!?!?
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maliceandarrogance · 4 months ago
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this is dumb as hell but it came to me in a dream so i had to post it. would love rbs for sample size + explanations but don’t feel obligated or anything.
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ierotits · 1 year ago
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every terror rewatch i can slowly name more and more characters by name
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ussporcupine · 16 days ago
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The Terror
terror reads their own fanfic
Silna- bemused, touched that so many researched culturally correct language and customs Blanky- loves it, curious as to how you figured out he was Jewish JFJ- LOVES it, reads every word, shakes head and laughs, saves favorites Irving- horrified Little- horrified at the idea, secretly reads, horrified anew Jopson- finds the idea of it hilarious, only reads titles Hartnell- impressed that he bags an officer so frequently MacDonald- tilts head, looks thoughtful, smiles enigmatically, stares into mid-distance Crozier- happy to be recognized as superior sailor; dismayed at descriptions of his junk Fairholme- why is there only one about me? Bridgens- reads every word thoughtfully, leaves detailed comments Peglar- highlights select passages to re-enact later Gore- sighs and shakes head Le Vesconte- reads best bits aloud to JFJ Goodsir- kudos for everyone but fills comments with grammatical corrections Sir John- apoplectic
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even-in-arcadia · 10 months ago
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A Consideration of 1st Lt. Edward Little of HMS Terror (As Played by Matthew McNulty)
The thing about Lt. Edward Little is that he had the highest ideals and yet was set up in so many ways to fail them.  
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We occasionally see glimpses of the man Edward Little must have been in order to be appointed First Lieutenant on a very prestigious expedition: reliable, capable, stalwart. 
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He had that, before, when he was doing the job he was trained for, ie running a ship at sea.  What he hasn’t been trained for at all is managing 129 126 119 105 ? men stuck in pack ice in endless night, later trudging over ice and shale, trying to keep them busy and out of trouble and from getting killed by a demon bear.  Of course he’s out of his depth, but honestly aren’t most of them?  Of the lieutenants Gore (RIP) is the only one who seems to be in his element and he’s the only one with Arctic experience so that tracks.  Even Le Vesconte is getting by on charisma and the power of peer pressure, neither of which actually make for competent officering.  So that’s the scene he’s stuck in, and no wonder if he’s out of his depth.  
Then we have the circumstances specific to Edward Little.  He's spent the first two-plus years of the voyage as the first for a captain who is very depressed and increasingly alcoholic. As Crozier's state deteriorates and especially after Franklin dies, Little has to tread a very fine and somewhat blurry line. He has to cover for Crozier, picking up the slack that is inevitably dropped; he also has to prop Crozier up in such a way that his leadership as Captain isn't undermined with the crew. A big part of both of those is making sure that the right questions are being asked, that all practicalities are being factored in, but he has to ask those questions without seeming to question Crozier’s authority. Thus he must essentially be an acting captain without seeming to do so either to the men or to Crozier . He is not someone who wants power per se; in fact I think what he wants most is to be a good and competent 1st Lt. But because he's under an semi-incapacitated captain, he has no choice but to take on some of that power while appearing to be no more than a loyal lieutenant. He's leading without being seen to lead, and he's already seen Crozier flog three men for among other things insubordination and disrespect (and without due process).
(Continued below the cut, as this got very long)
Crozier has also put him in a position of having to lie - both directly and by omission! For example, when questioned he tells Fitzjames (who outranks him) "much to do on Terror is all” - leaving JFJ to draw his own conclusions on the source of that “much” and the extent to which it is falling on Little.  The instruction to procure more whiskey “discreetly” is nearly if not actually insulting in how far below Little's rank it is.  Having to do it “discreetly” is even worse.  He is being treated as an errand boy, and not just an errand boy but one tasked with something that is clearly unsavory, even illicit.   By ordering him to to this, he makes Little complicit in the very vice that is causing all of these problems, and Little by virtue of his position is unable to refuse any of these direct orders, even ones that are way below his station. (The fact that Jopson, Crozier's actual steward who was actually in charge of these things, was not given that task is also telling although I’m not sure of what - perhaps that Crozier wanted someone who outranked the Erebus�� steward to do the asking; perhaps that he felt some shame in asking Jopson.)
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Through all of this, Little is having to cover for a man who continues to lose his own respect in ways both large and small, personal and professional. Crozier has endangered the crew for which Little feels himself bound to care - leading directly to Blanky losing his leg - and has spoken flippantly of the situation ("How fares the raft of the Medusa?"). In 1x04, he is clearly galled by both the disregard of due process and severity of Hickey’s punishment.  (While both are not unstandard in the Navy, Crozier’s manner makes it seem like spite as much as anything - which I’m sure Little clocked.)  Overall, Little observes him making inebriated decisions that are based as much on his internal demons as any the practicalities at hand while men continue to die under his watch. This erosion of trust will come back to haunt them all, because even when its causes have been overcome, the deep root and the effects are there. (JFJ gets to have reckonings with Crozier and say his piece in a way that Little never does or will.)
Edward Little also cares deeply about the welfare of his men, perhaps more than anything. Command is a responsibility not just to the navy but to those whose lives his decisions affect. And so he as he sees this disregard for them (and for himself) he is angry, and he is in a profession and position where one is not allowed to be angry with one's superiors. So he spends a lot of his time pretending that he is not quietly furious while carrying out orders that he knows he shouldn't be, and hiding it from everyone , even Fitzjames, because he is also, deep in his heart, loyal (even if he feels it is unearned) and married to Naval structures.  Crozier and JFJ have their reckoning, but Little never gets that, because subordinates aren’t allowed to be angry.  
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This combination, the lack of trust both given and received, the anger, the care & loyalty, the necessity to fill the void in leadership, means that he asks a lot of questions . A well placed "Are you sure, sir?" can go a long way. "Yes, but--" is not a phrase that would often have been uttered to a commander by a lieutenant, but Little has not just earned but hard won the right to say it.  Every time he questions Crozier, I think it is out of a sense of duty, not defiance. A duty to the expedition, to Crozier, and above all to the men, because for so long Crozier’s judgement was not something he was able to rely on. He can’t even attend a sunrise party without thinking of the supplies that are being used up! 
To top everything off, he also never appears to be someone who is particularly congenial nor gregarious, he is very aware of his rank, and is competent while not being loved (except by me).  I like to imagine that he and Jopson and Macdonald were able to commiserate in some way as Crozier was going through his detox.  But everyone is so conscious of class & rank & secrets being guarded that it seems unlikely that anyone actually confided in each other. By getting dry and in such dramatic fashion, Crozier earns back his loyalty & respect, but by doing so in secret I wonder if he hasn't further eroded Little's relationship with the other lieutenants.  Do they even know Crozier is drying out or is Little lying to them as well as to the entire rest of the crew?  Little does not seem like a man who cares for lying, and covering up the captain's "gastritis" would only have made Little feel more cut off and burdened by the captain's confidence. (To say nothing of the fact that all of this is going on with the Tuunbaaq in the background - these lieutenants were not designed to contend with alcoholic spirits let alone the spirit world.)
 Crozier’s trust does often  end up being more burden than anything, and it’s beyond the responsibility that would normally come with his rank. That moment when he practically shoves the pistol away from him is so telling of this.  We really were robbed of the moment when Little is so angry after leaving Crozier that he can’t even slam his door: because that’s what’s building up this entire time!  
By covering for Crozier both before and during his sobering up, Little probably lost some of his authority over the crew. They know he's hiding something, and that earns some distrust. He's obviously worn out, and there must be some observation that Crozier is literally using him as an errand boy. In the best of circumstances the commanding-without-commanding is a hard line to walk while maintaining one’s own air of authority. He's also angry, and in working so hard to cover and subdue his anger, what he's left with is the "sad, wet man" that fandom has dubbed him. The crew may not know exactly what’s going on (although what do those men have to do besides gossip) but they must have sensed how Little is being worn away. As much as he cares for them, he wouldn’t fraternize - it seems like he barely fraternizes in the wardroom.  (Which is why that moment of camaraderie with Jopson outside Crozier’s cabin is so important to me personally.) 
That brings us to the mutiny.  We may love a sad, wet man, but in the face of a charismatic mutineer he's never going to match up. He doesn't have the authority, the love of the crew, or really the energy to go against it. At this point, he has no reason to know or suspect that a mutiny is what's the offing in the first place! He is someone who wants to believe the best of his men, and he's been given no reason to doubt Tozer's motives. And what was he supposed to do in the face of a marine sergeant surrounded by frightened, armed men?  They are clearly on edge and afraid, a dangerous combination.  He is practical, and although ultimately it loses him even more face by going along with Tozer, he was never going to be able to stop that in its tracks. Even JFJ wasn’t able to reel back in what had already been done.  So he chooses the pragmatic route: agree publicly to the logic, let Tozer do with him what he's been doing with Crozier, in making the subordinate's idea appear to be the superior's. With the situation and facts at hand, what else is he to do? 
The irony is that Little has been quietly looking out for all of them and their best interests for so long; but because it was so quiet, an undercurrent, when it comes down to brass tacks, none of them have ever seen that, or feel that they owe him any respect or loyalty. Tozer and Hickey appear to be men of action, and unfortunately in a moment like this a group of frightened men is going to follow the one who appears strongest. 
I also want to point out that Crozier specifically says *while the fog holds off*. Well the fog has rolled in! The situation changed! Crozier clearly has suspicions of Hickey and Tozer that he hasn't confided to Little, and whose fault is that! When it comes to investigating Irving’s and Farr’s murders, Little asks what the evidence is, which suggests to me that he has no knowledge of any concerns about Hickey that have arisen post-lashing.  Again, he is inclined to trust them.
One of the realest moments we get from him is "I'm the worst kind of sorry." It's one of the very few times he breaks from naval demeanor. The worst kind because he feels it deeply, but also because he was stuck, and he knows it, and also knows the expectations both from himself and from others that he be Better.
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What it comes down to is what he says to Hodgson: "All we have are our instincts and training. If both told you to proceed with what you ordered, then be easy with yourself." That is all Little has had for so long. He certainly doesn’t seem to be having heart to hearts with Irving and Hodgson, let alone JFJ and Crozier; his counterpart on Erebus is long gone.  Who has he to confide in, especially at this juncture of events, when there are no clear paths and no right answers. I imagine this is what he told himself over and over in the long watches of the night.  
And yet!! Matthew McNulty has said that “Little's probably one of the most hopeful out of them all. [...] He still thinks that humanity will prevail in this dark, dark world.”  I’m not sure where to put this, but I think it’s important.  I think it’s part of why he doesn’t always quite have the authority he should: poor, worn down Edward Little sees the best and hopes for the best, and can’t quite reckon that not everyone has the same moral compass he does.  That’s why Tozer & Hickey get the best of him, because he wants to believe the best of them.  He doesn’t compromise his moral compass or belief in humanity, and unfortunately that turns into a blind spot.I think it’s also why Tozer invites him to join them: because some part of him recognizes that they both have that idealism deep down.  They are both doing their best in an inconceivable situation to cling to hope and take care of those they see as under their protection. It pains me to think what they could have accomplished had they worked together rather than against each other. 
(Incidentally, I don’t believe Little ever would have been swayed to join them, but I can’t blame him for the fact that Tozer’s claim about Crozier leaving them gave him pause.  He’s seen Crozier finally grow into a commander he can respect, but to find out that Crozier’s judgment was not just impaired for so long but extended to actively planning to abandon ship & crew, as Tozer frames, as he was working so hard to hold things together - even if he doesn’t believe it, in his heart of course there must have been some doubt.) 
All of these, the erosion of respect, the concern, the exhaustion, the lack of direction and support, the HOPE, come together in a moment for which he (unjustly, in my opinion) gets vilified for: 
We’ve slowed our pace hauling some of the ill in the boats. But if we extend this temporary camp more than a few days, we can allow the ill to rest here while the bulk of us proceed south. We can hopefully find game and trek back for the others once we have something more to offer them–
And Jopson’s anger is both understandable and not unwarranted - but. Based on that look Le Vesconte gives him, this most likely is not a thought that originated with Little.  It’s  being grumbled by those hauling, maybe even obliquely discussed by the officers.   That look says to me “It has to be said.”  And it does, the logistics are evident to everyone and that needs to be discussed.  They’re sending out hunting parties every day, sure, but in an area very close to the one they’re trekking through.  It genuinely does make practical sense to have some unencumbered, able-bodied (relatively) men go ahead quickly to what would hopefully be better hunting grounds, while the sick conserve what strength they have: those able to hunt could move quickly and bring back game, while those who are dying could do so while not being jostled about on boats on shale.  Little does not say (and, I think, would never say) that they should leave them behind entirely: only that this current system isn’t really helping anyone (and it isn’t).  He needs to make sure that Crozier has fully considered the situation, because for so long that was not the case. (Historically, in fact, they did set up a hospital camp while a smaller party moved south.)
I actually do think he says this with hope: the hope that they really will find game, that the ill do just need to rest, that he can save as many of them as possible.  He's also thinking of the practicalities and (though I may be biased) really does intend to return to the ill once they have something to actually provide them with. He doesn't say so that they can move on unencumbered, to better their own chances, he says to let them rest , to find something to offer them.  He knows the situation and the feeling in camp, and that the time has come to have the conversation. It's not even necessarily a conversation he wants to have or believes in, but it has to be had. Once it's been talked about, once Crozier has come out with not just a position but a direction (to leave supplies behind if necessary), Little is entirely on board. Shortly thereafter, when Le Vesconte suggests the exact same thing, he retorts that " Most of us are ill" (note the us - the identification with) and further responds with disgust and anger that "The Captain also ordered that we not leave any man behind. You expediently leave that out."  The Captain isn’t there; Jopson isn’t there: if Little really in any way wanted to leave anyone behind, this was his chance to order it and save himself.  The fact is that he is still arguing for and trying to lead with compassion as well as duty; the fact that he can't override the more selfish majority doesn't negate that.
I wish we could see his decision to go with Le Vesconte even though he so clearly believes that these lesser mutineers are in the wrong; I know why we don't. I like to think that it's because he believes he's doing the best thing for all, that he knows one semi-able bodied man staying behind is not going to help anyone, and that by going south with the group he may be to able to sway them, or find game for the ill. But again - he has been put in a position where there is no right choice, and where any authority he had has been too far eroded to matter.
Regardless: we go from his vehement protestation that they must a) rescue their captain and b) not leave behind the ill to die to this:
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A man completely broken, weathered almost beyond recognition, with his flesh pierced by and draped with the chains of watch fobs. That's fobs plural: they're clearly different chains, from different watches, from different men.  But in still uniform.  Because he clung to the to his identity, to hope, to grounding structure of the Navy in which he trained and believed, until the very end.
We don't know what happens in between. Is it madness? Did the mutineers do this to him?   Is it penance? A memorization of the men whose watches those were?  A punishment on himself for what happened on his watch - despite the fact that really, he was powerless to stop it? And this is the only watch he can keep now - watch chains in his face, his eyes forced open to the horrors. Or did 1st Lt. Edward Little spend so long suppressing his anger, marrying that anger to hope, being responsible, keeping confidences, bearing all that alone, with authority that is both shoved on him and disregarded - did he finally snap? Are the chains not a decoration, not a punishment, but an attempt to literally bind himself up and tack himself down to this terrible world where he’s found himself?  
All we know for certain is his last word - “Close?” Close to what? To death? To salvation?  The only comfort either Edward Little or we, the audience, will get - is that at the very end, his captain was there to release him from the duty to which he clung for so long, so fiercely, with so much hope.
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moongazeonastarfillednight · 9 months ago
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The Terror: When, How, Where... (PART 1)
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See part 2 for the end of my sanity (ep 6 through 9. Wasn't enough characters left on the post for ep 10)
See part 3 (and episode 10)
As I am writing the fic, I was getting frustrated at trying to figure out the timeline of the expedition. More specifically, what happens after they dropped the Victory Point Note.
Therefore, in order to organize my ideas, and also because it might be of interests to some of you, I will document here what I got.
Episode 1 through 5 for now.
Methodology
If we agree that the showrunners (and Dan Simmons to an extent) made their research, we should be able to match some of the event of the story with notable point of interests where artefacts and/or remains were found over the numerous searches made to ascertain the fate of the Franklin Expedition
I also tried to take note of all indications of time passing so that I might document their speed travel and the dates when they are not mentioned.
... And the death count. (Departing Beechey Island with 24 officers and 102 men)
Finally, I also used the following website to keep track of sunrises and sunsets: https://www.timeanddate.com/
1927 Admiralty Map
I may be an amateur in this kind of research but I find myself frustrated that the most complete map I've been able to find showing all that was found between 1850 and 1926 is shown on this map from 1927
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To be noted, we now know that the Skeleton of H. Peglar was more probably W. Gibson or T. Armitage
The Skeleton of Lt. Le Vesconte has also been reevaluated and is now believed to be that of Harry Goodsir ( :( )
Also, as it happens, if we compare to 2024 maps, we can say that this is not the actual shape of KWI (close enough!).
Therefore, for my own sanity, I recreated with modern maps. Is it accurate? Well, I wouldn't publish it but I think it gives a good enough view of where they went and where they were going:
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Where the Ships had drifted to in June 1847 (According to G. Gore's coordinates left on the Victory point note)
Where the Ships had drifted with the Pack by April 1848 (Victory Point Note)
Victory Point
McClintock's Boat Place (proposed to be same location as NgLJ-1)
Camp with Many skeletons
From D. Simmons' The Terror - The Hospital Camp
Peglar Skeleton
Starvation Cove
A Bunch of cairns in the area
Harry Goodsir
Gjoa Haven (Netsilik Settlement)
Fort Resolution (Dear God... look at how far they wanted to walk/Canoe/make portage...)
Matching the Show
Episode 1 - Go for Broke
Location 1 - David Young's grave (71.22, -96.60)
Date: September 5th 1846
Nighttime - None
Daylight - 14h 57 min
Twilight - 9h 03 min
Sunset: 7:51 PM - Sunrise: 4:55 AM
David Young was buried 7 days before they were beset in the ice (see point 3 on the map below).
During the dinner in which we were regaled by the tale of Mr. Fitzjames' Holes, Franklin discuss that they were approaching a bigger channel, which is now know as the McClintock Channel (see point 1 on the map below), meaning that at the time, they were still in the Franklin Strait.
On the day after his death, Franklin discuss their next course and assure that they must be 'nearly in sight of KW Land'. Crozier suggests it might take them weeks to actually make it to KWI. This would confirm what was infer above.
As we can see the two ships fitting in a cozy little cove while the grave is being dug, I would like to propose Point 4 on the map below as Ficitonal David Young's final resting place, on Tasmania Islands
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Location 2 - Ships September 1846 (70.25, -98.00)
Date: September 12th 1846
Nighttime - None
Daylight - 13h 45 min
Twilight - 10h 15 min
Sunset: 7:19 PM - Sunrise: 5:34 AM
Well, for this one, we need to use the extrapolation provided by the 1927's Admiralty map by tracing the line from where the ships were known to be in 1847 and 1848 (Point 5 and 6). (see point 3)
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For Future Reference:
Travel Time between Loc 1 and Loc 2 - 7 days
Distance between Loc 1 and Loc 2 :70 NM / 80 Miles / 130 km
Average Travel Speed - 11.4 miles a day
Travel Condition - Ice breaking
DEATH COUNT: 2 + 3 (Total 5)
24 Officers and 100 Men remaining
Episode 2 - Gore
Location 3 - The Ships in 1847 (70.15, -98.30)
Date: May 24th 1847
Nighttime - None
Daylight - 24h min
Twilight - None
Sunset: N/A - Sunrise: N/A
Coordinates and Date From the Victory Point Note (see Point 1)
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Location 4 - The Cairn (69.66, -98.27)
Date: May 28th 1847
Nighttime - None
Daylight - 24h min
Twilight - None
Sunset: N/A - Sunrise: N/A
From the ships, Gore lead his party to James Clark Ross' Cairn.
Now, in the Show, they found JCR's Cairn without an issue. In reality, while Gore had found the Cairn just fine, Crozier and Fitzjames did not. One of the reason for it is that JCR had, apparently, made a miscalculation in reporting where he had erected the Cairn by several miles. Honestly, the way that Fitzjames had written the words was so confusing, I appreciate that the show made the whole thing so much simpler, ahah. So let's say that it matches what we know now as Victory Point. Easy Peasy! (see Point 2)
To be Noted, we know the dates of departure from ships and arrival at cairn from the Victory Point Note.
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Location 5 - The Ice Camp (69.665, -98.32)
Date: May 28th 1847
Nighttime - None
Daylight - 24h min
Twilight - None
Sunset: N/A - Sunrise: N/A
The Camp was raised just beyond the ice ridge that blocked the way form the shore and the Cairn was only a mile or so away. (see Point 3... hidden between point 2)
Of Note: That hail storm's cloud coverage was intense to say the least... So dark :')
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Back to Loc 3 (70.15, -98.30)
Date: June 2nd 1847
Nighttime - None
Daylight - 24h min
Twilight - None
Sunset: N/A - Sunrise: N/A
Wednesday is a good day to drink with the Captain :D which makes it the Wednesday following May 28th 1847! So it's June 2nd!
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For Future Reference:
Loc 2 to Loc 3
Travel time - 8 months, 12 days or 254 days
Travel Distance: 8.6 NM / 10 miles / 16 km
Average Travel Speed - 0.04 miles a day
Travel Condition - Pack drifting
Loc 3 to Loc 4/5
Travel time - 5 days
Travel Distance: 29 NM / 33.5 miles / 54 km
Average Travel Speed - 6.7 miles a day
Travel Condition - 6 Men hauling Sledge on Ice
Loc 4/5 Back to Loc 3
Travel time - 4 days
Travel Distance: 29 NM / 33.5 miles / 54 km
Average Travel Speed - 8.4 miles a day
Travel Condition - 6 Men hauling ASS and Sledge on Ice
DEATH COUNT: 1 (Total: 6)
23 Officers and 100 Men remaining
Episode 3 - The Ladder
This one is fun because, well... they're not moving! I could point out where Silna ends up but it looks like she remain close enough to the ships that it doesn't matter all that much. So, let's just make note of the date and events:
Location 3 - Ships in June 1847 (70.15, -98.30)
For the duration of the episode:
Nighttime - None
Daylight - 24h min
Twilight - None
Sunset: N/A - Sunrise: N/A
Date: between June 2nd and June 10th 1847
- Silna makes her igloo a few miles away from the Ships
Date: June 11th 1847
- Franklin Dies
- Crozier drafts his resignation letter
Date: June 12th 1847
- Franklin's leg is buried :')
- Lieutenant Fairholme is sent to KWI.
DEATH COUNT: 2 (Total: 8)
22 Officers and 99 Men remaining
Episode 4 - Punished, As a Boy
Another fun bottle Episode!
Location 3 - Ships in same approx position as June 1847 (70.15, -98.30)
Date: November 23rd 1847
Nighttime - 12h 35 min
Daylight - None
Twilight - 11h 25min
Sunset: 11:47 am - Sunrise: 10:51 am
- William Strong's birthday :)
- We know because it's the last sunrise of the year!
- Evans and Strong die :(
They searched for a long time if it was just before 4 pm when they got the alarm and then they came back in time for last sunrise at 11 am...
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Date: November 24th 1847 to November 25th 1847
Nighttime - 12h 35 min
Daylight - None
Twilight - 11h 25min
Sunset: N/A - Sunrise: N/A
- Hickey has a communion with Tuunbaq (supposedly next day or so)
- Then Hickey gets evily booped.
DEATH COUNT: 2 + Hickey's postern (Total: 10)
22 Officers and 97 Men remaining
Episode 5 - First Shot the Winner, Lads
More fun in a bottle. These boys are not going far...
Honestly, for this one, the trouble was figuring out how much time had passed. For one, we know it's not yet Christmas because Christmas is, in fact, mentioned in Episode 6 (And Lady Jane's Christmas Pudding, hear hear) as part of the meeting between the officer and there was not yet a cooperation between the Terror Lts and Fitzjames for counting the supplies.
ALSO! That scene where Mr. Wentzell got killed dead over his nail... well, it gave me the feeling that either the review of the crew is not daily or that they've been on Erebus for a short time because 1) Fitzjames doesn't know their names and 2) He has to repeat the instructions about cleanliness... Perhaps they sent the Terrors in waves and not all 50 of them at once.
Other details to be mentionned:
Hickey is not recovered yet and Goodsir suspects he might reopen his wounds from working.
Goodsir has had time to be quite good at speaking inuktitut. Now, he could have had a continuous learning experience from Dr. McDonald since June 47 and before but considering that Dr. McDonald is stationed in Terror and Goodsir in Erebus, I suspect they did not have much time to have a class together...
Finally. Crozier suggests that he would be 2, perhaps, perhaps more... sick from sobering up. He got up just in time for First sunrise (Jan 17th).
So! We can infer that the episode might have spanned over 1 or 2 days (what's with the movement between the ships and the whole Rat Wedding).
My best guess is that the dates for this whole episode would be:
Date: December 14th 1847 to December 18th 1847
Nighttime - 13h 32 min
Daylight - None
Twilight - 11h 28min
Sunset: N/A - Sunrise: N/A
Why December 14th? Because it would be Edward Little's Birthday and I feel like it is appropriate for his character to have his boss send him back to the killing cold for more booze :') (December 16th to December 20th seems more likely but...)
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This would give Crozier a full month to recover from sobering up and 22 days for Goodsir to learn inuktitut (impressive!), for Hickey backside to feel better and for Fitzjames to NOT learn the name of his new Terrors.
DEATH COUNT: 3 + Blanky's leg (Total: 13)
22 Officers and 94 Men remaining
That's it for now. I'll do the last 5 episodes soonish...
Conclusion to the first sets of episode: Sunsets and Sunrises were whacky in June 1847 but, so far, distance and travel times make good sense. If the accuracy holds up until episode 10, we might be able to have a pretty good idea of what, when and where everything happened in episodes 6 through 10.
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snickeldonger · 5 months ago
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from battersby’s JFJ book:
He already knew his first lieutenant, Henry Thomas Dundas Le Vesconte, from their days together at HMS Excellent in Portsmouth harbour in 1838, but now the two men became firm friends. Fitzjames said: ‘I like the Clio and all in her - in fact, I am very happy. The 1st Lt, Le Vesconte, is just the man for me and I don’t think we are in bad order.’ They have both left accounts of this period of their lives and both have a slightly dreamlike quality.
😭😭 i love this its got such honeymoon vibes… “just the man for me” <3
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franciscrozierofficial · 7 days ago
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Is that so?
Somehow, lieutenant, I believe that even less— that it was your fault. I know you you’re not telling me everything, George…. Tch Tch Tch. What exactly is it that began the altercation?
I don’t know… if I can trust you that the matter is truly put to bed as you say. 😒😠
Hello, Captain, it's @nedwardsmol. I was informed that you needed me?
Yes.
@nedwardsmol, @ltgeorgehodgson, @lieutenantjirv You are all to report to the wardroom. We Terrors are long overdue for a meeting of command.
Leave your personals at the door, gentlemen. We have work to do. 😠.
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thomas-jopson · 10 hours ago
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These are left at the door to Jopson's cabin: a collection of teas (a lot of them from China, some from Persia and the Middle East), a letter, and a postcard.
On the letter is less than legible handwriting. The words are as follows:
Hey 😉 merry christmas, cunt <3. Got you some teas. Serve them to Cap Crozier knowing they come from me 😘 n i didnt know what else to get you so i hope this drawing i did will do. i was never there so i dont know how you remember it but i hope this will suffice. congrats on the proposal btw. please for the love of god have a good long life together.
Probably your bitch, —Lt. Le Vesconte
The rest of the letter is blank.
On the postcard is drawn something that looks like ice, a ship locked in it. There are very few lines drawn, giving the whole thing a feeling of hazy whiteout, like a memory, like a dream. On the back, just the word 'Antarctica.'
If Dundy had drawn a picture of the Persian Gulf as he remembers it instead of Antarctica as he hopes Jopson remembers it, it would look much the same: hazy, a memory, a dream.
(He is actually very surprised by the sentiment. He expected to receive a gag gift or nothing at all— except maybe a rude letter.
But this?
Yeah,
he had much to learn…
and much of his views had to adjust.)
*he squints at the way the letter was signed off*
(Well,
not all his views…)
*he strokes the letters on where Antarctica is spelled out and reminisces… in between his memories of the captain… and fantasies regarding scenarios where he had successfully gotten with the captain much earlier… he was also wondering what it would have been like if the lieutenant was there*
(…Oh, Jopson would’ve gotten into much more trouble…
Crozier would have probably never sent the letter requesting him back—
had he been around Le Vesconte for a prolonged period of time, in his rambunctious young adulthood.)
(He contemplates thanking the man…
but he sees no point.
The man unfortunately knows as much about him as he does him, so he knows when Jopson is thankful and when he is not.)
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saints-who-never-existed · 9 months ago
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For the ask 6 characters game : all the lieutenants (since Fairhorlne doesn't get developed, just replace him with Lt. Jopson)
Oh damn, as bad as I feel that this got lost in my inbox, it's another lovely boost to find it again and to revel in whimsy! :D
Marry - Little! It always has been and it always will be dear sweet Ned-Boy. He is my everything. <3
Kiss - Gore! I've smooched in before and so help me god, I'll smooch him again! I think he'd taste good and kiss like a Disney prince.
Be Room-Mates With - Jopson! Again, stewards just make incredible room-mates in general in my book. He'd be clean, fastidious and incredibly trustworthy while also being a remorselessly gossipy bitch in the know. I feel like he'd be sort of 'fixer' too, though I couldn't tell you why - one of those mates that's just like "Oh, you need x, y, and z? Don't worry about it - I know a guy." ;)
Wrap a Blanket Around - Hodgson! I'd swaddle him tight like a literal baby and rock him off to beddy-byes to the sound of Clair De Lune. I think he'd like that.
Push Off a Cliff - Irving! I've chosen him for just about every other option before - he may as well meet God now!
Set on Fire - Le Vesconte! I'm sorry Dundy, pet, I still haven't forgiven you for the psychic damage you inflicted on my husband. Get singed!
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jamiefitzjamie · 18 days ago
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wait miss are you and Lt. Le Vesconte actually a thing?? or did you just leave his proposal on read ☠️
You must understand that the thought of marriage makes a woman like me nervous. But now, after hearing the activities that… minx has been partaking in, it’s safe to say he is not a marrying man.
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lieutenantjirv · 1 month ago
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Ah, that is not tongues, captain. I believe he's asking if the dead can, uh, come back to life? Though why he is asking this I know not.
Cnsthe dead dkcne navkc tolife
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chasdesvoeux · 30 days ago
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(continued from the events of this post and the anon ruffling around in CDV's desk, @ltgeorgehodgson @lieut-dundy-le-vesconte)
>The drawer in Charlie's desk contains a tidy little black diary with entries becoming increasingly messy and difficult to interpret up to the present day. The recount of yesterday's events is entirely unreadable due to the poor penmanship and odd wording, and the current day's entry (in very, VERY shaky handwriting) reads:
Last night, fell on ice walking to Terror with Lt. Hen. LV and Lt. Geo. H. Geo. staying with me on Erebus while (hopefully) I recover. D very kindly asking Thos. J. for advice, information on what to do. When able will have to apologize to Drs Goodsir, Peddie; App. Ash for using up stores. Cap. C. responded to message with helpful words, if daunting.
Very grateful to have Lts help always. Hen. often difficult to read, can seem pressed, but likely understands, sympathizes with my affection for him. Much like brothers at home.
Geo. hard to speak with. Lovely to speak to. Hope to be open when possible. Thinking too hard on feelings for Geo. especially uncomfortable, hard to put to paper or words while as I am.
Once through it, must speak to Geo., Hen. honestly about all. Fear Geo. feels inadequate or unworthy of care. Hen. seems apprehensive about showing affection. Current circumstances, crew, myself all contribute, likely.
Forgot to dispose of laudanum when returning to cabin. Foolish, weak but unable to hold against. Will ask Drs to dispose of, remove bottle to avoid future temptation. Feel several ways of terrible now. Have surely let Geo., Hen. down and brought more work on them.
At least not having made Lt. before departure, not terribly straining crew, other Lts. with indisposition. Cap. C. in more difficult position, but better for working it anyway.
Difficult to find things to do when hands shake, eyes unfocused, etc.; hopefully symptoms subside soon. Would be sooner without falling back today. Will get thru either way with Geo., Hen. help.
Oct. 26, 184-
>After the writing is finished on the page, there are several simple, shaky drawings of first a bottle, then the sundogs over Erebus, then Lt. Hodgson. Chas himself is lying uncomfortably in his bunk trying to relieve the pain caused by the sudden absence of the medicine, not quite asleep or awake.
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captmuldoon · 3 years ago
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Terror Lieutenants Nerd Energy vs. Erebus Lieutenants Jock Energy FIGHT.
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franciscrozierofficial · 24 days ago
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Captain’s Blog.
The northern lights aren’t hideous tonight. I can see their ribbon-dance from my window— I still haven’t been well enough to leave my chambers, but the thrice-damned withdrawals are finally receding. I felt… better, today.
I woke up to a warm bed. Thomas snores very gently in his sleep. It’s a steady, tidal sound.
He’s off duty now. I wonder if he ever feels like he’s on-duty, when he’s only with me. I wonder if in those times he sees himself as I do: Thomas, my Tom. not just Mr. Jopson. Hopefully by now he’s gotten some supper in him. He’s been getting too thin. I worry.
Also worth noting: Mr. Collins claims to be pregnant will Pilkington’s child, Dr. Stanley was nearly drowned— and— Lt. Hodgson has found company with Lt. Le Vesconte. This last piece of news is the only one I feel personal tie to. My hatred for the latter is not sufficient to prevent my well-wishes to the former. Hodgson deserves comfort and stability. I only hope that his beaux can provide that for him.
Speaking of stability, I received word (via one of the ship’s boys I caught blabbing by my door) that at the Carnivale Lt. Le Vesconte proposed publicly to Captain Fitzjamie, and received no answer.
I hope she’s well. I know, from the other end of things, incomplete proposals can wear on the heart.
…. At least…. The Aurora is a marvel tonight. These green curtains, that purple shower of light, dousing the stars… Almost makes all this worth it. I hope, wherever and however she is, Jamie can see it too.
End of Captain’s Blog.
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