#louis actually said that
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Cue the larry breakdown
#louis actually said that#baby boyfriends#he’s so cute#i’m not okay#larry stylinson#louis tomlinson#harry styles#larries#larents#fetus larry#larry is real#larry hug
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A lot of people in the iwtv Fandom regurgitate antiblack talking points particularly wrt Louis being femme/effeminate/gnc and it's genuinely so disgusting like no, Louis is not making his partners engage in domestic labor when they participate in the businesses and investments they are partial owners of. No, Louis is not being the patriarch of rue royale when lestat leaves the house after beating Louis within an inch of his life. No Louis is not "masculine for his culture" especially when compared to other black men in the same time period. People will actively ignore canon to make Louis into this hypermasculine black brute and Lestatr or armand into these shrinking violets that are oppressed by Louis when he's not that at all. The only times he's ever acted even close to that stereotype is to assimilate into a white supremacist society that expected that of him in order for him to earn a living and to please Armand, which causes him great distress and visibly worsens his mental health to the point of Louis lashing out at Claudia and being so entirely numb that he self harms. Louis is not this hypermasculine black brute and a lot of people try to make him into one bc of unconscious bias surrounding black people (black people have been stereotyped as hypermasculine, angry, overly violent and sexual deviants since the 1700s) or to absolve their non black favs of the actual patriarchal and oppressive violence they enact on Louis and Claudia or a combination of the two. It's disgusting, do better
#interview with the vampire#iwtv#amc iwtv#louis de pointe du lac#lestat de lioncourt#iwtv 2022#ldpdl#armand iwtv#loustat#loumand#fandom antiblackness#fandom racism#saw the most disgusting post saying lestat was calling himself melisadae in come to me and not the other way around like#that wasnt the whole crux of the post but that stuck out to me bc its the biggest indicator of how nb people will twist themselves in knots#to make lestat into this hyperfemme thats being taken advantage of by the big black brute louis#the evidence stares you in the face and yet people are like no louis is the oppressor like please listen to yourselves#louis is feminine in canon! he wears outfits that routinely signal feminine (silk scarves) and armand mocks his feminine behaviors#and when louis isnt interested in the painting of the battle in ep 4 armand tells him to go look at paintibgs of fruit and flowers#most of Louis’s behaviors signal as feminine to his family and other black people. his mama talking about his nails and glasses and clothes#the white daddy comment like people see louis as feminine bc he is!#THE NIGGA DRINKS TOM COLLINS WHICH IS JUST A LEMONADE WITH FLOWER LIQUOR IN IT AND MARTINIS HES EFFEMINATE#saw someone say that bc louis was reading lestats copy of madame bovary (that he bought for louis) he was the masc one and i just cant#lestat literally bought the stylish clothes and books and furniture that louis said were nice and we know that cus it literally happens ep 1#louis pushes Lestat’s buttons by telling him hes not actually cultured bc he doesnt read the books he owns but louis does#lestat is not some shrinking violet at the whims of louis he says so himself in s2e7#like yall are ridiculous
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all vampires are born out of trauma
#my art#interview with the vampire#iwtv#interview with the vampire amc#iwtv amc#iwtv fanart#iwtv art#lestat de lioncourt#the vampire magnus#Louis said that and honestly? he’s never been more right#like damn none of them bastards are even remotely well…#good for us ig we get a fantastic show out of it but oooooooooofff and ouch nonetheless#and yeah#tvl on the mind still… that’s actually probably because I’m listening to the podcast talking about it…#but now this is the result! I’m sorry?#cw: blood#cw: injury#cw: gore#cw: assault
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INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE | 2.08
#loustat#louis de pointe du lac#lestat de lioncourt#iwtv#iwtvedit#interview with the vampire#iwtv spoilers#iwtv amc#my edits#this is so long but i needed it in full gifset form i still cant believe he actually said i didnt know it was a gift
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genuinely my favorite thing about louis is the atrocities. he's cute and all and he's funny and kind sometimes but also...... he makes terrible decisions, hurts others and himself, is arrogant and avoidant and has depression as well as terrible taste in men. he frequently manipulates himself and others without even meaning to and the lies he's told himself about his own life have influenced him so greatly that he can't even recount events from his own life without unintentionally twisting them to show him in the position that is most cathartic for him to talk about. through all of this i still love him unconditionally. it's such an interesting character concept. what if your protagonist and narrator was so unreliable and whiny and biased all the time but you're hearing a nuanced portrait of his feelings as he made all these dumb as hell decisions. would you still sympathize with him? could you do it?
#i love you louis please never become a better person <3#just something that occurred to me while i was reading the book and kept writing louissssss what is thisssssss on the side of the page#this can be said about almost every iwtv character actually but for him it's most interesting because he's our narrator#iwtv#interview with the vampire#louis de pointe du lac#ldpdl#louis du lac#anne rice#amc iwtv#the vampire chronicles#amc interview with the vampire
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i really do love the daniel x fake rashid dynamic just for how delicious the power dynamics are. the assumed age gap and servitude putting daniel in a position of power that he is not really in at all in dubai in a house of a vampire. but that same assumed dynamic giving “rashid” knowledge that daniel does not have as the personal assistant to a vampire, who is fed on by him, and as daniel assumes, he also sleeps with. Daniel is jealous of this proximity to louis but jealous of “rashid” himself as well, wondering how he tastes.
then of course, the fact this is all a premise. Daniel is in no position of power at all, hes being played with, toyed with, all his private comments and desires are transparently observed by not one but two vampires that have the power of life and death over him.
but they ALLOW this, they allow daniel’s perceived power, his desire, putting themselves in a false submission to him as both an interviewee and a servant, letting him feel this power as a taste, but every time he gets comfortable in it, reminding him that its a game. wonderful truly
#much to be said like!!#when you trick your sub into thinking you’re a sub and making him dom you before going nope actually you were always our boy#i just loveee fics where daniel fucks fake rashid and is dommy about it because the insanity of it all. the horror 🎀🩷🙏#also fave thing in those fics where daniel’s thinking just obscene things about ‘rashid’ and is like ‘hope louis doesn’t read my mind’#like oh honey. you don’t even know the web you’re tangled in right now. the predator is pretending to be your prey#and just letting you begin to devour before it shows its teeth. longer and sharper than yours. literally#amc iwtv#iwtv#daniel molloy#devils minion#armand
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happy birthday louis!
#hope he has a good one#the mix of louis/tommo is great#pretty sure niall actually said loumo#zayn frantically checking for a lighter lol#louis tomlinson#liam payne#niall#zayn#lilo#2013
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I could never be a vampire bc I would've sat there and listened to all those Vampires go on & on about wanting to go after Louis De Point Du Lac after he just described in explicit detail how he Itachi Uchia'd an entire coven in a single night in his book... and you want to go after him? Are you dumb??
#iwtv#interview with the vampire#louis de pointe du lac#amc iwtv#like yall wanna go TOWARDS the danger????#Louis really said “knuck if you buck bitch”#i love him#lol they wouldve had to take me out too#cause i wouldve read the book and agreed with him#my queen did nothing wrong#he actually shouldve killed them all slower
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What pisses me off most of all about this fandom’s reaction to calling Armand “Arun” is that, stupid takes aside, there are actual reasons to be mad at Louis in this episode, but they all involve his relationship with Claudia and you guys don’t give enough of a fuck about her character and story, so instead y’all decide to make shit up about how Louis is “acting like a pimp again” and “called Armand his slave name” (y’all know damn well Arun is not his fucking slave name!!).
It’s all very transparent, disingenuous, and yes, very fucking racist.
#and this isn’t even getting into the fact that most of these people read the books#and never had anything to say about Book!Louis being an actual - literal - slave owner#or the fact that a good chunk of this fandom fucking loves Marius and won’t even hear a bad thing said about him#vampterview
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I HEARD YOUR HEARTS DANCING!!! YOU WATCHED THE WHOLE THING LIKE SOME CREEPER!?!!?!!! AND THEN I WATCHED YOU PULL OVER AND DRAIN A DOG AND RUN DOWN AN ALLEYWAY FOR TWO MORE RATS. THAT IS NOT LIFE!!!!!!!! THAT'S CAUSE *YOU* TOOK MY LIFE.
#i actually giggled when he said i heard your heart dancing. like he oh SO deserved it and it was good sooo good maybe i am a sucker for#toxic relationship on tv but that gave me LIFEEEE i love lestat actually him and armand#i love my characters toxic cunty sassy beyond remorse it's air to my lungs cocaine to my veins#iwtv#interview with the vampire#loustat#iwtv lestat#iwtv louis#lestat de lioncourt#louis de pointe du lac#the vampire lestat#tvl
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gonna have to deal with people missing the point of louis singing 1d songs in festivals... don't get me started on the other covers
#festivals is for exposure#once again: festival is for exposure!!!!#for the people that know him only from the band its like oh its him? let me check him out#for the indie ppl that he wants to appeal to its like: oh isnt this from [band]? let me check this dude's redemption of it#why must it be said every time!!!!!#same thing can be said even for tour#have we not seen the clip go viral on the first time he said 505?#and people will be buying tickets to hear a 1d song live out of nostalgia even if they dont know much of louis' own stuff#and come out of there thinking hm i actually enjoyed his as well#thats the way it goes#it doesnt say anything about his solo abilities and he's not selling himself short#there will always be people that are there not fully entirely for all of his songs either#it happens to mainstream artists and their big hits#the way this fandom want to complain about everythinggggggg#edit: sorry this isnt direct shade#i just have to see it multiple times everywhere because i update dailytomlinson 💀#last one add because AJSKAK truly irates me#stop trying to make this as some hard task for him that he's only doing it because he's not as big or something#i promise you he doesnt need you fuming over this my god#i know its mostly pettiness disguised as a real constructive opinion over how louis manages his career or whatever#but my god. arent we tired of focusing on the stupidest things? end rant
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I think some people are way too willing to think of lestats pov as the truth and it's very confusing to me bc what about lestat as a character makes you think he's gonna be more truthful than louis-
#mia rambles#iwtv#interview with the vampire#this is not about wanting to see lestats pov bc its interesting how he saw things bc i also wanna see that! its gonna be super interesting!#but i just thinks its so wild how some people think like this bc the show never asks that of you#the closest you get is when louis says lestats version of turning claudia is the actual truth#but i also think thats a little wrapped up in louis' grief (i do genuinely think its fhe closest to what happened tho)#i swear i saw somewhere that sam even said that hes not coming in as the lestat pov as the true pov and to knock everything louis has said
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Tbh i am not surprised that a person who openly talked about having drinking problems since 1d days, because of how crazy 1d worked has been agressive. What surprises me is people being surprised (they never seriously saw drunk person?). But i am also confused about this whole book. Apparently Maya said that that book is not fully bout Liam but compilation about her exes and some of the worst parts are not about him. But recently she said that the book is “ofc about him” so what is true then? Or did she meant it that ofc some parts are about him or that whole book is about him?
Sorry, just confused
I also am not surprised- we've learned so much more about the real stories of things and about the guys' actual lives over the last years, and the story that has unfolded around Liam has been totally consistent throughout if you've been following it, and so the information Maya is telling us is shocking and upsetting but not difficult to believe. I got an anon yesterday saying they were worried about getting similar revelations about the other boys, like "if Liam could be doing this we just don't know, any of them could", and while in a way that's always true I guess, anyone could be doing anything in private like... that doesn't really concern me. Because none of these Liam revelations are coming out of nowhere, there have been many MANY steps along the way leading us here if you've been watching, and he has talked openly about both his mental health struggles and his addiction issues. So to answer that anon... to find out something similar about Louis would in contrast contradict everything we know about him and no I'm not worried about it. Is he an abuser or a loose cannon, well that news would truly shock me to my core, I will be honest. But anyway as for the book I don't find it strange that she was nervous when it came out and treading lightly and later decided, fuck it. In the absolutely on point tiktok she dropped today (YES👏GIRL👏FUCKING TELL THEM👏) she even mentions attempts to keep her from publishing the book, presumably by Liam's team, that I am riveted by and cannot WAIT to hear more details about actually- like I said I don't find it at all strange that she was nervous and downplayed it a bit then. But if she says now that it's just about Liam, well, I would say it's been clear from the beginning that the book is their story. Maya herself brought up the parallel of songs being written about stuff and I think it's the same thing; it's true (she was in an abusive relationship that involved certain kinds of events) but maybe not 100% literal (I'm sure details were changed to make the story work, it's not like a word for word timeline of their interactions or whatever).
#maya henry#blah blah blah#re the tiktok also lmaoooo are people really saying she wants money her family IS RICH like RICH RICH#but hot damn the part about enabling UH HUH !!!!!#yep yep yep#in terms of the other guys and what would shock me... well obviously we know Zayn has also had a history of agression#and we know WAY too much about him being pushy about sex lol#I would not be shocked to hear he crossed a line... but think he's probably just a bit of a fuckboy#I absolutely do not trust Niall behind closed doors but the songs we have about him seem to tell a pretty consistent story;#self absorbed but basically harmless#harry... who tf knows what he is like outside of being with Louis but I would be shocked to hear of him being aggressive yeah#I have a lot of issues with him but taking advantage of people or being pushy are not even on the radar#and as for Louis... like I said yeah it WOULD shock me. I don't just love him because he has a nice face!#it's BECAUSE of the ways we do know him and know what he's like. because of his tenderness and care#and his consistent kindness and love#and his openness about his private side#so yeah- it would shock the hell out of me it really would#but then I think that anon also was worried about eleanor spiling smth about their relationship so we are not coming from the same place#my kneejerk response was I'm sure he paid her on time what else are you worried about lol#although out of everyone if someone was going to say he lashed out at them I suppose it would be her#it was probably one of the most difficult and frought relationships in his life#and one that he did not want#so! but still no it doesn't worry me#tbh there was one thing in mayas video today that did surprise me which was the premeditation#Liam actually planning using the fans against people and sneaking around doing stuff#I guess even believing everythign I had chosen to paint a picture in my mind of someone who was still#basically unaware of the wrong they were doing and more flailing than plotting#and that shakes me a little. and makes me very unhappy to hear#liam discourse
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Lestat would find himself in about 90% fewer situations if he weren't the sort of person that a) asks everyone for their advice and then does the opposite and b) spends about five seconds considering a course of action before going forward, and c) will frequently do the complete opposite of whatever someone asks out of sheer bloody-mindedness.
Turning Nicki and claudia, waking up Akasha, THE ENTIRE PLOT OF BODY THIEF are down to Lestat going "hey guys :))) should I do this??? :)))" and everyone says, no, absolutely not, and then Lestat shrugs and does it anyways. He needs a jiminy cricket of critical thinking.
#gabrielle said don't turn nicki#marius said don't turn any young vampires and don't serenade any ancient ones#louis AND david said 'no it actually sounds like a bad idea to swap bodies with a human con artist and you shouldn't do it'#and to all of that lestat said 'cool :)))) good talk :))))' and then went and did it all#iwtv#interview with the vampire#the vampire chronicles#amc iwtv#marius said don't make any young vampires and don't go and serenade the ancient onrs#lestat de lioncourt#sam reid#louis de pointe du lac#jacob anderson#lestat#assad zaman#armand#the tale of the body thief#the vampire lestat#anne rice#queen of the damned#nicholas de lenfent#marius de romanus
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The 7 year depression when Claudia went missing is so interesting to me. The fact that Louis and lestat still stayed together during those years. We always talk about lestat not thinking Louis loves him but I also believe Louis feels that way too! And the 7 years shows that! Like either of them could’ve easily left at that point. Lestat could’ve had enough and peaced out. The same with Louis, he could’ve walked away too or asked him to leave. But they both stayed. Both waited for the other person to leave. Both waited to be told to leave! How much longer would they have stayed like that if Claudia didn’t come back I wonder?
#Iwtv#loustat#interview with the vampire#mind you there was a lot of hatred and resentment built up at that time#was it just a waiting game?#waiting for Louis to get better and stop blaming himself#what if one of them actually had enough and said they’re leaving#would the other be like “ok bye#or no don’t leave we can make this work!#and I don’t think it was just the fear of loneliness that made them stay
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'vampires are bad at art', factoid just statistical error. most vampires are quite decent at their crafts. Marius De Romanus who paints like all his works were made by AI is an outlier and should not have been counted
#listen. I think Anne had SOME idea when she said it with that disconnected from humanity quality BUT#Lestat was clearly still good at acting and it's art so I think she was cherry picking and saying whatever#therefore this is my opinion#ALSO#they clearly have the emotional capacity to create#they just don't put in the work and that's not a vampire thing it's a 'too impatient or not interested that much actually' thing#except Marius who's technically masterful but has no imagination#also show vampires are able to make art. Sam wrote a Sam Beckett play. Santiago could act. Lestat could act and can sing.#Armand had questionable taste but clearly not talentless either.#Louis would have been good at photography if he didn't try to imitate someone else and got his hand at modern digital camera#so yeah#but show vampires aren't inhuman. they're ultra-human. too human. more impulsive more emotional#more concerned with morality despite pretending otherwise#(by concern I don't mean adhering to rules more purposely picking and choosing but aware of them at all times)#ANYWAY it's a joke post ✌️#iwtv#interview with the vampire#amc iwtv
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