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Achievement - Strike A Pose! See all of Loop's poses when conversing with them.
Something silly for you guys before I get into the nitty gritty stuff of the AU. I'd like to think that if Loop was a Siffrin from the start, they would get silly with it. After all, Siffrin knows that they're him, so might as well bother the alternate you as much as possible!
#In Stars and Time#ISAT#ISAT Spoilers#ISAT Loop#ISAT Siffrin#two coins same side au#comic#illustration#digital art#artists on tumblr#the creativity process#fan art#id in alt#ISAT AU#TCSS AU
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Um so. I remembered The Incident while I was hanging out with Odile
#IT WAS BY COMPLETE COINCIDENCE TOO. I JUST PULLED OUT THE COIN TO SEE IF ITD TRIGGER ANY SPECIAL DIALOGUE#AND IT. WELL IT TECHNICALLY DID. I GUESS. I FUCKING GUESS#it wouldve surprised me if odile DID have dialogue for this but the chances of it happening are so low to begin with#and its a one time event on top of that. chipper did tell to me talk to loop afterwards but I forgot to in the same loop#I did trigger their dialogue by pulling out the coin in front of them and it was REALLY TENSE#I’m not sure if it’s the same dialogue I would have gotten if I went to talk to them immediately after since I was hanging out with odile#and I just got Bonnie’s friend quest event too Its just blow after blow. I’m gonna frow up#isat#in stars and time#isat spoilers#in stars and time spoilers#isat act 3 spoilers#isat act 3#actually idk if the coin thing is limited to any specific act but I’m currently on act 3 when it happened#isat siffrin#Siffrin#isat odile#odile#my art#myart#gif#puppy plays isat#GAH
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This dialogue only appears if you gave back your dagger before asking Loop what the difference is between looping with tears or your dagger.
Loop of course, is against Siffrin hurting themselves. But this is more than that, clearly. They acknowledge that suicide is suicide, no matter if it's with tears and time or blood and stars.
But they're incredibly against the idea that Siffrin might see their body as unimportant and disposable. They say that Siffrin should keep their body intact, because they can't keep their possessions, they can't keep their history, they can't keep anything. The only thing that he owns is his own BODY. The only thing he hasn't lost.
(...)
Who saw their own body as unimportant? Who disposed of their own body? Who lost everything, lost their possessions, their memories, their timeline, their family... and also lost their body. Who did that?
#...anyways !#oh also the only thing loop kept was their silver coin and they left that for siffrin to take too in twohats. consider this.#isat#in stars and time#isat loop#isat siffrin#isat spoilers#soliloquy#//suicide
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Change
Get it? Because it's pocket change? But it's also Loop staring at their reflection because that isn't who they are anym
#in stars and time#isat#isat spoilers#two hat spoilers#loop isat#isat loop#shout out to a friend for rambling to me abt Loop and their coin bc its going to be on my mind all week now#isatober#inktober#isat fanart#loop in stars and time#in stars and time loop#yellow's art
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here's a continuation of this comic. it ended up kinda long so the full thing is under the cut
yeah these two immediately forgot that there are other people in the room lmao
#2024#isat two coins au#sifloop#isat loop#isat siffrin#isat#in stars and time#i meant to draw mirabelle picking up loop's hat bc loop dropped it but i have a ten pic limit on mobile so i'm ignoring that rn#the reason this took so long is that i couldn't make isabeau look right and redrew him A LOT#so i gave up bc i didn't to put this off any longer >:( curse you you beautiful man#i like making these comics super messy tho it's fun#i think it's funny making people guess what the fuck the shapes are#but also the confusing part also means these two are kinda melting together so that's a bonus#anyway have a nice day/night i love y'all
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DAY 93: chromatic
#codacheetah#isat#loop isat#isat spoilers#listen i had to do it at some point. i had to do the thing with the coin and the eye#it's like a rite of passage for loop enjoyers. you gotta do it
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Finished themmm
Accidentally
I planned on going to bed early as a celebration, but then I looked at my unfinished pf of Siffrin in the sketchbook and boom couple of hours of sketching, lining and coloring and the beans are now officially paper figured
I can now randomly take photos of them in a forest whenever I feel like it. I have couple pfs on me every day just in case of this happening
#fanart#my art#paper figures#isat#isat siffrin#isat loop#siffrin#loop#in stars and time#Are you ready for me to break it to you? No?#That scene on the laptop? A screenshot#It is a recent one tho#I replayed that hangout just before finishing act 3 for the achievement that required act 4#But I did pretty much play like that#God just thinking about my first playthrough try on this fills me with anxiety#I was so scared it would be the only time they get to talk before actually playing through the game normally#Preparing for bed found me two coins I guess those two really are coin magnets#I actually did Siffrin's hat at least at line-color but I'm still figuring out how to get them to wear it#I THINK I have an idea tho#But anyway#it's 3:30 am#They're also so tiny#Like I worried they'd be too big so now they're pretty average-small next to my last ones#Drawing pf of Loop was actually a really random idea and getting them to mirror Siffrin's pose wasn't hard to think of#I don't usually draw characters facing the other way tho it was weird#The funniest thing was me forgetting Siffrin's eyepatch until the very end while being perfectly aware of making Loop's eyes different colo#That moment of realization was funny just as much as terrifying
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I'm a broken record about this but after so many years of being left with the Axolotl poem about Bill, it'd be so lame if Bill never did reincarnate, and it'd be just as disappointing if it ended up being something minor like a cicada (although it'd be hilarious if he reincarnated, immediately died and then reincarnated into something else).
And to me, the wording of the original Axolotl poem really does make it seem like the reincarnation itself is the 'redemption' and the deal is that Bill is basically passing responsibility to someone else, after he's done with therapy and like.... doesn't pass down all of his many issues.
(Plus I dunno if it's my understanding of reincarnation that's wrong but it feels that when Bill is like 'yeah let me use the reset button!!!', he's forgetting that its way different from using a continue and he's just gonna end up with the equivalent of a shoddy new game plus made for a wrong character/setting at best)
Meanwhile, we're left with Bill poem about Stan that's the same in execution (a cryptic message between space and time and by that I mean hidden on the internet lol), with the same purpose (an opening/lingering mystery for Alex to use when he wants to return to the series) with the same elements (fire, lies, redemption, home) and numerous comparisons to Bill's own philosophy on lies that's repeated again in the same website.
(Also been thinking about how amnesiac!Stan could sorta be thought of as a reincarnation of himself in terms of mind only. The same soul being hit with that reset gun button, a chance of a new self unburdened by the past, but via the power of love and family they went nope!!! we want you back!!!)
Either way, with the poem and the book's ending there's the obvious Bill+Stan connection that we're supposed to acknowledge!!!
#i've seen some folks oddly in denial about their parallels for some reason???#stanley pines#stan pines#bill cipher#same coin theory#book of bill#thisisnotawebsitedotcom#gf meta#two sides of the same dollar bill#but also im still thinking about how we got it confirmed that after stan got his memory back#that ford still was paranoid about bill being inside stan's mind#what was stan thinking when ford did test after test on his mind (did stan even let him go into his mindscape? is it still a mess?)#giving up his privacy and letting ford dig around so his brother would quit looking so scared at times#them finally finding some peace as they start prepping for their trip#only for that fucking book to appear and send ford spiraling again#basically hiding in his lab because hes so scared of his family being hurt#hiding because hes so ashamed of being tricked of being abused#what the hell is a guy supposed to think after all that?#still thinking about alex describing bill as a gambler at a tbob panel while he knew full well#that we were about to get further emphasis of stan being a gambler too....#also nomming on the idea of determinism and loops and the idea of split souls
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This is a little thing I'm tentatively calling A Crisis in Faith, Prologue, pages 15-16.
Huge huge spoilers for ISAT in general + the But Then Who Was Phone??? achievement + the Like Talking to Yourself achievement!!!!
Look at all my ISAT fanart
Look at all my ISAT comics
#i am lowkey SO happy with how the coins turned out#something about drawing metal itches my brain#isat#in stars and time#in stars and time spoilers#isat spoilers#isat siffrin#isat loop#siffrin#isat fanart#isat comics
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The start of the Loop segment of the Siffrin & friends twitter QNA, and the message that flipped Loop's answers from silly to dodgy and blatantly upset.
Loopchat from speaking to Loop 20+ times.
Certified Loop dysphoria post
#isat loop#isat spoilers#i was gonna make a whole semisilly post abt how i think the public perception of loop as 'cunty' is kind of funny#(has bought into it before)#but to be honest it just made me start thinking more abt how loop perceives themself.#loop telling siffrin not to die too early so they have more time to go :( at siffrin's drawing. or well i guess it'd be :#man.#it does....interest me#siffrin seems to not be particularly dysphoric in like a gender sense. expresses interest in body craft but thinks#(You dont mind inhabiting this meat prison for the time being.) as well so#but by becoming a star loop kind of. simultaneously loses the freedom to Change the way they want to. no guarantee bodycraft works on stars#and loses the comfort of inhabiting their own body#congrats on the new body loop! sorry about the dysphoria#for as much as it's fun to poke at loop for being very obvious once you Know#it does. resonate something with me i guess that of all things this is one of the few things that loop isn't very good at deflecting about.#(in the sense of cutting the conversation short before it becomes capital o Obvious they are upset anyways)#i'm aware they were already transgender before becoming a star. but very transgender of you loop#oh! i guess i can say on the topic of cunty loop#it's kind of funny. like im not immune to drawing Cute Loops or making them silly and dramatic and flirty#and i think the thread of Drama they show on top of their not-typically-masculine (ig???) demeanor and flirting with siffrin#makes the perception of them as like. there has to be a better word than cunty but. cunty. somewhat understandable#once more the loop has deceived you. i mean i do think the drama is a little bit real they are a hashtag theater kid#but they have deceived you. you have fallen into their spiderweb of believing they are anything other than the world's most miserable beast#with your help we can crowdfund enough silver coins to buy loop a dysphoria hoodie. if we hit our stretch goal it can have a print on it
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#really just want to see agni (and grace) being cool 😳 if that's not obvious enough#忠 on hatz's back means loyal#the sky is filled with shinsu loops (inspired by water dragon heavy storm technique but less destructive in exchange for wider range)#also if you haven't connected the dots yet. grace and jinsung are having a spar somewhere. and Agni is keeping it inside a massive barrier#he set up the barrier with shinsu devices ofc. not purely Agni's power. we can see him doing some typing there since he controls it#Also I forget if i have it written on future chapter or discarded it on this update script. but just in case i don't. here's an explanation#the barrier was meant to keep the chaos inside to stay inside. but because the shinsu on lower floors aren't as concentrated as upper floor#and shinsu inside the barrier was condensed with Grace's power. If the barrier was completely blocked off it'd be easy to suffocate inside#so they need the outside shinsu to be able to cross inside or Agni wouldn't be able to stay inside. Thus I imagine it like a one way valve#it's easy to cross from the outside but hard to get out without deactivating the barrier. and that was why Hatz was trapped#Laure on the prev chpt must've noticed that the flow of shinsu got siphoned somewhere and thus the 'something is wrong' feeling#but no one else notice bc it'd prob feel like a passing breeze. considering with how big a floor is#tower of god#tog#two sides of the same coin comic#my comic#my art#khun#koon#khun a.a#khun aguero agnis#hatz#rak wraithraiser#rak
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ACT 2 (... they're already making your head hurt.)
First Loop introductory conversation of the AU + a rough visual guide that I put together! Also, the AU is called Two Coins Same Side AU now, and if I regret it later, too bad. It's set in stone.
Under the cut is the visual guide without the text!
#In Stars and Time#ISAT#ISAT Spoilers#ISAT Siffrin#ISAT Loop#comic#illustration#artists on tumblr#digital art#the creativity process#fan art#two coins same side au#id in alt#ISAT AU#TCSS AU
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Everyone always talks about Twohat, but nobody talks about Onehat...Of course it's less narratively satisfying, but I think it's fascinating anyways.
Since Onehat and Twohat are set at the same time, Loop hasn't vanished just yet. They're probably hiding in the tree, watching as all of this happens. They never trusted Siffrin enough to leave their own silver coin for them to take, but Siffrin gave up one of the most sentimental object he owned, one that reminded them of their shared homeland, in a ritual also from their homeland, to give Loop something to remember him by.
When Loop asks you to guess what they are, one of the options is "A ghost?" if you pick that, they say that the Favor Tree is their grave. Siffrin leaving a coin on the roots of the Favor Tree mirrors that. They truly understand each other. What was Loop thinking, watching that?
#does loop in onehat ever want to give siffrin's coin back like loop in twohat does?#isat#in stars and time#isat siffrin#isat loop#isat spoilers#soliloquy#screenshots from https://felicitations.neocities.org/
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BATCH 1 // BATCH 2 // BATCH 3
[ALL OF THESE TERMS ARE PRO NONHARMFUL TRANSITIONING AND ANTI RADQUEER]
Desirskywing — When someone desires/yearns/wants to be a SkyWing from Wings of Fire, in any or multiple ways.
Desirnightwing — When someone desires/yearns/wants to be a NightWing from Wings of Fire, in any or multiple ways.
Desirhivewing — When someone desires/yearns/wants to be a HiveWing from Wings of Fire, in any or multiple ways.
Desirsilkwing — When someone desires/yearns/wants to be a SilkWing from Wings of Fire, in any or multiple ways.
Desirleafwing — When someone desires/yearns/wants to be a LeafWing from Wings of Fire, in any or multiple ways.
These can be due to being an alter in a system, nonhumanity, delusions, etc.
[ Self-Indulgent; No spoons for ID // @desirdae-archive @sharksnwaves ]
#> loop | she/any#lux coins#desirdae#mogai coining#mogai term#liom coining#liom term#pro endo mogai#pemogai#long post#tw long post#cw long post
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loopsie daisy scribbles
separate pics under the cut
oh and references! i almost forgot that >.>
first pic: (link)
second pic: outfit is lady dimitrescu's from resident evil and the pose is from (link)
third pic: (link) i was looking at traditional costumes/dress from guadeloupe ;u; give loop a dress in a pattern from home
forth pic: well the pose i freehanded, but loop's blouse is from some rwby concept art for the shirt under ruby's corset in i think volume five? i don't remember, it's been awhile, but anyways! pic of that attached below vvv
#2024#isat loop#isat spoilers#isat siffrin#isat odile#isat#in stars and time#sifloop#loopdile#isat two coins au#technically#having to tag spoilers b/c of a coin is never not funny#loop had to do some SERIOUS convincing to get odile to dance with them#digital art my beloathed... my eyes fucking hurt i hate this macbook you can't turn the brightness down on it jfc OW#i put all my effort into the lady d one and it slowly petered off... does it show#anyway anyway anyway!!! i hope you're all doing well i love you
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DAY 75: onehat
#codacheetah#isat#loop isat#siffrin isat#isat act 6 spoilers#twohat spoilers#isat spoilers#yea im tagging the onehat post twohat spoilers. watch me#..do we know what time of day it is when siffrin goes to the favor tree?#i always imagined the evening for some reason.#um so anyways. hey do you guys ever think about onehat. do you think about it#do you ever think about how siffrin never learning about loop and never getting closure with them#is just as valid of an ending as twohats. you dont have to get twohats. loop getting some catharsis isnt necessary to siffrin's narrative.#they asked to be here. they were here to help siffrin. and they did. and it ended#that's it.#i've always wondered if loop saw siffrin perform the ritual for them#i wonder if it would comfort them or not. if you ask them if they're a ghost they say yes (and no) after all#the tree is their grave.#something something from main character to stage director to sponsor to corpse#and with how arcane the prereqs for twohats are. yes you can get them naturally on a first playthrough but it's definitely not the majority#experience especially playing blind.#to give loop an ending you have to reach back in with both hands and grasp at that connection#i dont rlly know how to articulate it but it makes me feel a kind of way tbh. you only learn the prereqs (w/o guidance) by talking to loop#very frequently and paying attention to the hints they drop to you about the coin. labor of love situation#self love. siffrin reaching back for loop. We Are Getting Out Together Bitch#Is this anything i dont know that it is#idk onehat fascinates me a lot and im not even gonna touch on the onehats playthroughs where u actually do get the prereqs#i think there is a slight tendency among some fans tocharacterize loop as. more vindictive than they are? i guess?#it's easy to stare down loop's big twohats breakdown and see them bare their fangs and look into their anger#but loop's willingness to fade into nothing and leave siffrin alone shouldnt be forgotten i dont think
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