#loki s2 ep5

[gavinette]

There's something about Loki fixing his hair, Loki trying not to lie to Don/Mobius, Loki remembering what Mobius liked from s1, Loki saying to Don/Mobius what he couldn't to his Mobius, Loki understanding it's about the who, about Don/Mobius saying "small victories" and Loki appears just from behind like he is his biggest victory.

[doctor-mccoys-sanity]

How I thought the Loki and Sylvie conversation at the bar was going to go when I was watching the scene:

Loki: I want to save the TVA.

Sylvie: Why?

Loki: I want the TVA back.

Sylvie: And? What do you want?

Loki: I want my friends back.

*Pause*

Loki: I want Mobius back.

[sunnysideprincess]

Watching Sylvie not care about anything until it absolutely affects her is so goddamn infuriating. But I think it's also the plight of her character.

She was never given the opportunity to care for anything or anyone except her. Sure, the "pens" are important to us, to Loki. But they are not important to her because she didn't have the chance to interact with them, be friends with them. TVA didn't give her the same shot Loki was given. She doesn't remember Frigga, Thor or anybody from Asgard.

Loki has had the time to know love in whatever frugal way it was given to him. But not her. Not Sylvie.

She is beginning to care; we see it in the few glimpses we have of her normal life in her chosen timeline. And this is also why I would hate it if we get Sylki (or just Sylvie in any ship) before we see her flourish. Before we see her actually care about something, anything enough for her to sacrifice her own freedom—because that's the only thing that matters to her right now.

[zionysuss]

More Loki memes because this episode was a RIDE (P.S. No hate to sylvie she just been pressing my buttons for a few episodes)

[aurysbooksnstuff]

THEY GOT ME ALL EXCITED FOR A SECOND, THINKING MOBIUS WAS ON A JET SKI IN THE WATER

BUT NOOOOOOO

marvel you bitch, making me believe that I’ll get what I most truly desire in life

Curse you!!

[delyth88]

"But without them, where do I belong?"

We have to remember that not that long ago Loki was ripped out of his timeline. He's still probably feeling deeply lost and vulnerable about losing his connections to his family and the world he knew. He's formed some friendships through adversity with the TVA folk, and he really wants to keep those connections because he has nothing else at the point. So while I felt like they were going a bit heavily on his desire to save his friends, when it's in the context of everything else he's lost, I can absolutely understand why it's so important to him.

[lokiiofstories]

the multiverse is my playground and i’m swinging on the swingset of “single dad meets handsome stranger who might (?) want to buy a jetski”

[coldfadingdeath]

can we please talk about the fact that loki fixed his hair like he was getting ready to ask someone on a date before he went to talk to mobius

[mightily-oats]

I am just so happily surprised by where they’ve taken Loki in season 2. It’s so much more than I let myself believe it could be.

Man it’s been such a ride for us old timey Loki fans. Not knowing if the writers will remember and appreciate the depth of the character they have in their hands over and over again.. for nearly a decade.

And now, for him to have finally found his own power over his story. Shaping his destiny as he deems fit, according to what his true self and values are (AOA!!)

And to have found that power in himself through finally having people around him that see him. See his value as a person. They see past the role others wrote him into. (Comic Loki again!!!!!).

I’m just so relieved to be honest. My boy is back!

It really goes to show how much Loki’s family fucked him up. And the other people around him in Asgard. Look how far he can and will go for you, if you just show him the slightest bit of genuine appreciation. (Though he did do that in the start of Thor 1 tbh, even though they didn’t give him much appreciation for it. The opposite actually)

His parents just used him so much, fucked with his head and his sense of security and trust. And guilted him if he spoke up. Or just yelled at him incoherently for starting to speak up if you’re Odin. Or went into Odinsleep, either way 🤷

[forgottenghosty]

Loki Season 2 Episode 5 Out of Context:

[gavinette]

Something I really like about Loki, even if I don't usually pay attention to it, is the camera. How they add tiny treats for you to catch on if you pay attention to how camera works here.

I don't usually take screenshots, I should start because oh boy, but when Loki learned how to control time slipping and the camera started to move in sync with him and Loki said "It's not about where, when or why" directly staring at this group of people, Sylvie behind him like Loki is one step ahead of her, and Loki says "why" just when Mobius enters the frame and they stare at each other.

It's amazing because Loki says "I can rewrite story" and the damn camera is going counterclockwise! In a series about time!

[doctor-mccoys-sanity]

Personally I am so OB coded after the latest episode.

I too want to be a theoretical physicist, I also want to be a science consultant on Sci-Fi shows/TV, I also want to be a sci-fi writer (even world built and kinda planned one), I too would dedicate over a year and half of my life and lose my spouse over dedicating myself to a task Loki gave me, I too look like a kicked puppy semi-permanently and misread every social cue.

I am Ouroboros.

[whatfamidoinghere]

🤡 Clowns

We’re all clowns 🤡

Ik we’re not going to get Lokius (na jk ofc we will… 🤡) but I rly appreciate that Sullivan’s isn’t being perused anymore.

I’m glad Loki is like in his healing era or whatever (I can’t find better wording I’m so tired rn) and even if he doesn’t get with Mobius (oh he totally will 🤡) at least he’s leant to understand, love and accept himself.

ngl i got so scared they were gonna make mobius a fucking white picket fence two kids and a loving wife…and then they gave us “single dad” mobius “wife is long gone” hmm you’re really my friend? okay i ain’t arguing with a tall, handsome, dark haired stranger guess i’ll just follow you anywhere.

and then i was happy bc sylvie is so happy in her life!! by herself!!

and THEN i got so scared when loki & sylvie went for a drink and i was like alright here we go…and then i got “of course i know you. your friends are where they’re supposed to be. we’re writing our own stories. write your own.” and “i want my friends. i don’t want to be alone”

and then i was happy again bc she left to go listen to records!! and the record shop guy is cute! maybe she thought so. maybe not! she’s just vibing!!

and then i got, “it’s about who” while staring right at mobius.

what a fucking rollercoaster.

[aurysbooksnstuff]

LOKI SEASON 2 EPISODE 5 SPOILERS

I… am so mad right now. They ended the episode literally following the trope that I hate the most with everything in me: When everything is lost and they do lose, but a character finds out how to go back in time and rewrite history. Proceeding to no one(sometimes also the character who did it) remembering what happened and just being like, “oh wow, guess the world didn’t end! Let’s go on with our lives!” And the show ends. I HATE THAT GUYS. OK??!! I HATE IT. It’s such a dumb trope because the conclusion should be everyone knowing everything and then concluding. PLEASE. I HATE IT. Loki was going so so so so so good and I feel like it’s pummeling. But you never know, maybe Marvel will think of something clever and make me take what I said back, but until then, I’m really, really mad. The trope is so clear it hurts. It’s so predictable it’s killing me.

[delyth88]

Loki episode 5 reaction and initial thoughts

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! I can’t believe it! I’m so unused to getting what I hope for with Loki in movies and TV that I almost don’t know what to do when you get almost exactly what you’d hoped for!!!!!   (Within the bounds of this being the TVA version of Loki of course.) That was excellent!  And hit most of the key things I was hoping for as well as giving some absolutely charming additions!

It packed in a lot of story, and it was a delight to see the characters on the timeline. It wasn’t as gripping and tense as the last episode, but that's probably a good thing for my stress levels lol! But it was a really lovely time travel story.

And Loki has unlocked a new ability. Maybe.

The opening music!! Perfectly creepy!  And even more so than the music over the credits of the last episode. It really sounded like the disintegration of reality!

And I loved the way the letters disappeared from the Loki title card… *shivers*

It was a small thing, but nice to see at least one thing I’d guessed correct – that they started the episode with the reverse of this shot at the end of episode 4.

I loved how spooky it was having Loki walk through the corridors of the TVA by himself. And I did rather enjoy the moment he almost met himself.  That was cute. But it was clear that they needed to get on to other things quite quickly – there was a lot in this episode!!

The imagery of the universe disintegrating was perfectly terrifying! (Although I was getting big “snap” vibes.)  And what is Fail Safe Mode? And does it matter?

I was a little sad to see Casey was a prisoner. 😔   But I wonder if we’ll see these timeline versions of the characters again?  I feel like the need for them is over? Unless maybe briefly at the start of the last episode. So we didn't have to watch him being particularly horrible.

I didn’t pick that he’d be the first person Loki would visit, nor did I pick that it would all be unintentional. 

I did like the way Loki still hoped that Mobius would recognise him. And the conversation itself was ambiguous enough I suppose for the first couple of sentences that you could interpret it that way. Poor Loki looked so disappointed!

I laughed as was intended at the imitation of the inflatable advertising character.  😁

And then OB!!!  Omg!  I LOVE what they chose to do with his character!!!  He was so sweet, and retained his enthusiastic and super intelligent personality! I hadn’t really settled on what I thought OB might have been like on the timeline, but this was so much better! And how he was like “and I had to get a PHD to keep my day job as a theoretical physicist”….!  😄

And @pinkpondofasgard I hope you’ve seen this episode when you see this mention, because spoilers - looks like you were right about this being a location from OB’s past!  Which I think is super cool!  I don’t have any idea what this would be in the 1990s in the US, but obviously it worked so well for OB that he replicated it in the TVA!  Unless this whole series all turns out to be his dream… Ha ha! Ha…. ha…… er…  Anyway. I love that so many of the shelves are covered in books instead of technical TVA equipment.

Okay, so now I’m seriously thinking there’s a chance OB might actually be the founder of the TVA.  HWR could easily have come along later and taken over the leadership and wiped his memories.  But the fact the rooms are sooooo similar is just a bit too weird.

I did like how they handled Loki explaining things to Mobius.  Mobius was suitably sceptical and Loki was trying so hard not to sound threatening, but that’s not really his bag, is it. Lol! Things would definitely have gone pear shaped if OB hadn’t turned up.

I feel like Loki’s getting a lot of use out of the phrase “I promise you this will make sense” lol!

While I was kinda looking forward to the multiple crazy conversations while Loki tries to convince people he’s not mad, I do appreciate they had to make this quick, and I liked how they made each interaction shorter than the one before it, until he didn’t even need to say anything after stepping through the time door.

Then there was Sylvie.  I was by this point just as surprised as Loki that she kept her memories.  Now I have to assume that’s because she wasn’t ever a TVA worker who had her memories wiped.  But if that’s the case, then why wasn’t she in the Loom room with Loki when he ‘woke up’?  I’m assuming we’re meant to understand that this is because Loki feels most at home in the TVA, rather than Asgard. I find that's a little bit much, personally.  But I guess I’ll put that one to the side for the moment.

I did not expect her to be so adamant about not helping.  I mean I should have, but I didn’t. Their conversation at the bar was interesting, and I liked that Loki was so concerned that the TVA folk get a choice.  (And I kinda think now that they might, come the end of the season.  With OB choosing to stay because it’s literally his dream, Casey because it’s better than being an escaped prisoner, and B-15 and Mobius choosing to leave.)

The whole scene in the record shop – that was cool!  The small things that went wrong first, and the way the store owner slowly noticed it. *shivers*

Although again, very similar to the snap. I like how small objects vanish first, and I really should have seen that coming when the tempad went missing, but I didn’t.  I think there was just so much squashed into this episode!

And this was such a haunting image.

And then Sylvie says “there’s nowhere left to go” before she too disintegrates.  Eeeee!

Again, this looked really cool!  Are we meant to understand that Loki could hear a moment in the timeline of a person each time he touched a thread?  I wonder if that holds for any thread? Or was that just illustrating his memories?

I’m not sure that’s important though, given he almost immediately jumps back to the TVA, but we haven’t seen this image from the mid-season trailer yet. Not one from this angle where Sylvie is still whole, and where Loki is standing confidently and making this specific gesture.  I wonder now if he’s just snapped his fingers? Perhaps this moment is revisited, or perhaps just an alternate take that looked cool for the trailer.

I did like the ending, and how he jumped back to them all to tell them he’d figured out how to do it.  I wonder if he’ll be able to come back to them under his own steam at a later date? 

I’m still not entirely sure if this is something that in integral to Loki now or whether its related to circumstances. Like will it be possible to time-slip after the TVA is restored? If that means going back within the TVA before the moment he started time-slipping in the first place. *shrug*

So, what point did he jump back to?  There’s an alarm blaring in the background, but no other identifying things.  So I’m guessing this is just as they watch Timely go down the stairs to suit up?

Does he try to stop Timely from going out there? Explain it didn’t work, and then ask OB for information in the last few moment before jumping back further?

And more importantly, after the multiverse is saved, does this mean he can jump to the time and place of any person he cares about?  Could he visit his Mum? Or a Thor?!! 🥲

Ah!  This was a really great time travel episode! And I'm thoroughly looking forward to the final episode.

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[iseathegalaxy]

how far back is loki gonna go is the question now...