#liono&tygra

[harrierttv]

I made this shortly after reading your post on Tygra’s trials

OOOOH!!

You even gave Tygra his new armour!?!? This is incredible and exactly what I had imagined!

Honestly this is awesome, and I'm happy you're liking the story so far!

[minyboy]

Thundercats, Ho!

[spacevixenmusic]

Source: ThunderCats [2011]

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Thundercats

[littlecofiegirl]

It’s me again the one who asked about the clone babies! So I did watch thunder cats as a kid and did watch the reboot and was upset when suddenly no more. Anyway I actually shipped Liono and Tygra despite the brother thing and so couldn’t get them out my head. Of course at the time I didn’t have access to tumblr and so I felt alone with the exception of my siblings. Recently I began to rewatch a lot of shows I loved and I had a reawakening of my love to the series and well looked up liono tygra wasn’t expecting much and found you thindrrsolstice who I’m not sure is active and needmoarplot and thunderconoisser I doubt I wrote those names right and found your aus and loved them all of you wished I was able to see last fics and arts but it’s how it goes either amazing art and stories all of you and thanks for sharing despite my laaaaattteeeenesss

Hi, Sorry for answering this so late. Thank you. I'm so happy you like my art and that it brought you joy. I really wanna give a shout to the people you mentioned in this message: https://www.tumblr.com/thundersolstice https://www.tumblr.com/needmoarplot https://www.tumblr.com/connoisseur-of-thundera You guys are awesome. <3 Thundercats 2011 was a good show but yeah. we knwo what happened. Still. If it gave you some joy then it was worth it. <3 Take care. And thanks again <3

[thundersolstice]

More Babies Headcanons ~

Post-Season 2 Headcanons feat. Lion-O and Tygra as Dads:

We’ll start with King Lion-O and his children. :3

Lion-O and Kit have fraternal twins (male and female, just like Kit/Kat and their younger siblings). But I’ve already said that.

They name their eldest boy Wilycub and firstborn/eldest girl Claudia (Clawdia?) because she made it out ahead of her brother and Lion-O wanted to name his firstborn after his father.

Possibly Wilycub is named after or in the tradition of Kit’s dad?

I’ve already bleated my preference for Lion-O’s kids to inherit Kit’s lighter coloring because white lions, guys! ...But lately I’ve been growing fond of Claudia closely resembling Lion-O’s mother, too, so.

Two fluffy snowballs running around are still great!

One fluffy snowball and one (half) lioness who could be Lion-O’s mother’s identical twin are also great!

I have this mental scenario in my head where Wilykit’s first pregnancy results in cubs (because Lion-O is a big cat), but since Kit’s body is built for kittens, she has a hard time of it; so she and Lion-O plan their next pregnancy with the use of technology to ensure the next set of twins will be kittens.

Their cubs have Lion-O’s ears, and do not have tails; and their kittens have Kit’s ears as well as tails.

One of those tails is fluffy like Kit’s, and the other is a lion’s tail.

I have Third Earth-sized headcanons on the differences between kittens and cubs, and the genetics of breeding between different cat clans, but that warrants its own post lol. Also it's probably totally wrong and the cats procreate exactly like humans because that fits well with canon.

Now to throw Bengali’s father into the mix!

Tygra expects to make an incredible father since he’s “perfect,” but like being king he totally fails (has a rocky relationship with Bengali, friction in his family, &c); Lion-O initially doubts his ability to father (the way he doubted his ability to king &c), but is wonderful with his and Kit’s twins. If Tygra is resurrected after Mumm-Ra’s defeat, he solicits fatherhood advice from little brother Lion-O, and ultimately they forge a new relationship and bond (finally!!) over being dads.

Also Bengali idolizes Lion-O because of all the stories he heard growing up before finally meeting the king. I just really like this dynamic, especially before Lion-O and Wilykit fall in love, so there's Mumm-Ra and time travel and his brother apparently had a cub and now that kid is hero-worshipping Lion-O and following him around and family and Lion-O really just can't take all that right now.

✧

[manduse]

IS THE THUNDERCATS FANDOM ALIVE?? HELLOOO?? LET ME INN!!!!!

[ritapeacemaker]

Yes yes yes yes!!!!

Ok so just a heads up this might get a little rambly, but I want to talk to someone about it and very few people talk about Thundercats 2011.

Ok, so I had a random dream that sparked a headcanon. Basically, the headcanon is that whenever Lion-O is separated from the main group, goes off by himself, or is just left alone for a certain amount of time he always ends up going on some random adventure that often times involves some form of magic and when he comes back the rest of the Thundercats are really confused and a little concerned. Then I remembered that this is kind of already canon with episodes like Legacy, The Duelist and the Drifter, and Trials of Lion-O. Then that sparked a new headcanon that after Trials of Lion-O and Lion-O literally dying, the rest of the Thundercats just came to an agreement that, when they can help it, Lion-O is not allowed to go off on his own without one of them being present. I just like the idea that after Lion-O literally died and came back to life the Thundercats get a little overprotective of Lion-O 😆. I just think that it's a cute little idea that could work for a more fluff fanfic (we need more Thundercats 2011 fanfics that aren't just smut).

No worries, I'm happy someone wants to talk to me about Thundercats!

And yes, I definitely think the other Thundercats would be protective after Trials of Lion-O. They know he's capable of handling himself, but he also literally died and that's scary as heck. They need him as much as he needs them.

I also had an idea of Tygra sometimes checking on Lion-O in the middle of the night. The Trials two parter was a huge wake up call for both of them, and Tygra'd had enough close calls to really fear losing his little brother.

I have a few different files that were supposed to be fanfic, but they're mostly just bits of dialogue floating in a void orz

[harrierttv]

Ok, I don't know if I'm overthinking this, but is anyone else think that this is a big height difference between kitten Lion-O and kitten Tygra

I mean not really since Tygra is at least what, 5 or so years older than LionO?

It makes sense for Tygra to be so much taller than his younger brother.

[minyboy]

Thunder, thunder, thunder, Thundercats... hoooo!

[geekynerfherder]

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[lesserfandomappreciation]

Some family headcanons for Lion-O having a twin sister?

Assuming this is for Thundercats, I’ll just go with the new Thundarcats - it’s fresher in my memory.

Twin Sister for Lion-o (Thundercats)

After having been without having a blood child of their own, the Queen and King were both accepting that they would not have children by birth. They had Tygra, a son they were grateful for. Children by birth would be nice, but not necessary.

To have twins mere years later, both healthy and alive, was nothing short of a miracle for the royal family. Cheers and celebrations erupted across the kingdom at the announcement of the miraculous birth of a strong princess and prince for weeks, and the capital city was alight with festivities that echoed off the walls.

Between the twins is a competitive but close bond that stands unbreakable. Despite their knack for getting into trouble (or looking for trouble as Tygra puts it) they share an equally powerful knack for getting out of it. More often than not it is Lion-o who gets the deeper of the lectures - a Crown Prince shouldn’t do this, destiny rests on your shoulders, etc - but sister is there to defend him from their father’s words, rising to claim responsibility when it’s right.

Few people know Lion-o’s insecurities better than his sister. She is the eager ear that hears every anxiety that grips his heart, and gladly dispels them for him. She knows him better than arguably any in the family, as his one closest friend his age he’s really allowed to have.

Likewise, Lion-o is fiercely protective of his sister, happy to spend time with the only person in the family who really “gets” him. They tease each other and get on their nerves from time to time, but the fact he has anyone who is willing to treat him normally and not like a prince is greatly appreciated.

Tygra and Lion-o’s conflict exists the same here as it would in any other universe - the pain of having your place in the family taken is still strong even if there’s an unexpected sister. The presence of a sister also does immediately negate having an older brother who can be condescending. However, what is unique is that her siblinghood with Tygra would likely be… peaceful. Pleasant, even.

Make no mistake; should she be as rambunctious as Lion-o she will get her fairshare of remarks and teasing jokes (as any rambunctious sister would from any older ‘responsible’ brother). But even then to Tygra it would be more endearing than anything else, possibly annoying if she’s as obvious as Lion-o is about it.

Reluctantly in the corner of his darker thoughts, Tygra knows that her not being a rival for the throne is part of the reason he gets along better with her than with Lion-o. She’s not the one who took his place in the family, she’s the cute little sister who looks up to him and eagerly gets her nose into whatever he’s up to. It’s difficult to say no to his innocent sister’s face.

How close Tygra is exactly with his sister is going to depend on her personality. A sister with Lion-o’s way of being is endearing but may remind him of his brother and grate on his nerves at times just like Lion-o does. A sister who is studious, or just as dedicated to making the family would be a sister he would get along better than he would a troublemaker.

Regardless of personality, Tygra would be fiercely protective of her as he would with any member of his family. There is that extra level of being the older brother and thus being “responsible” for his younger siblings that makes him all the fiercer in defending his sister. Double if his sister somehow doesn’t know how to fight at all. Should she know combat he still has to be reminded to back off a bit. If she doesn’t, he’s protecting her AND teaching her how to fight later.

Sister dearest in all this is caught up in her family’s dramas. Her closeness to her brothers is both good and viewed as bad at times when the brothers are fighting. She can play peacemaker (not that she should every time - it’s not her job and no sibling should have to be the one dealing with the mental exhaustion of ALWAYS being the peacekeeper) but there are times where it can backfire.

Should she decide to tell them (and she should) how draining their fights are and how it’s not fair for them, or her, or the team, to deal with constant fighting in a situation that is already high stress the brothers would get a good bucket of wake-up on their heads.

Overall, the three siblings would be dangerously close, especially over the course of their journey as they start putting aside differences. The three of them absolutely get into trouble, especially if they can drag Tygra into it. Worst of all when it’s just Lion-O and sister, people know who is responsible. If Tygra is involved, no one will ever know what happened.

[firefaerie81]

Pooh been loving all the ideas expressed I loved liono wished the show hadn’t been canceled and agree he struggled with having friends. I still like the idea that he felt closer to Jaga though they kind of made it less prominent and made him important to Cheetara as a mentor ( but I hate how she threw it all away everything he taught her in new alliances it felt like a slap she found love but suddenly duty out the door) anyway one of the things I think about a lot is lionos and tygras relationship like they didn’t get along and everybody adored and preferred tygra even for the crown and he beat liono hard all the time. I mean as much as Claudas said he was proud he literally also told liono it’s no wonder everyone prefers your brother to be king. Like lionos face was covered but man ouch and he accepts it it isn’t until the trails we see that he didn’t want to be king and he never felt deserving of it. Lack of reaction from tygra too like you killed him then I’ll just punch the guy for liono kind of the other instance he shows big brother regrets and I really want him to think fuck my brother just died and I’m alone he got what he wanted now realizing shit being a king isn’t all that great. In native son like the ending felt force no offfense you won’t lose me for me it was a punch in the gut like seeing liono still felt like he was important to his brother also before getting the spirit stone he argued that tygra wouldn’t betray him despite tygra being an ass even then pointing out how he needed to be saved. Liono I think always wanted to be loved by his brother but got a different reaction like in native son it’s clear tygra hated liono for killing the queen and again we don’t get how liono feels about killing his mother for being born and his brother hating him. He was also supportive to tygra when they met the tigers pushing him to talk. Tygra and his relationship I felt definitely and liked the idea of tygra seeing and being protective cause I can see liono just saying yeah I died well I’m alive come on lets find the other stone. Previous liono was a baby but claudas abd tygra voy didn’t help even the queen wouldn’t be pleased I wished there was an afterlife I can see her slapping claudas look what you did to our boys! Also it would’ve been interesting to see tygra realize that liono was growing up abd he never was present which he can be now but any ideas on them I love hearing your thoughts

Wow, that’s a lot. But I’m happy to have people talking to me about Thundercats! ☺️

I’ll run it down best I can, but I think I interpreted things a bit differently than you did.

First of all, that’s not how I interpreted New Alliances at all. I didn’t see it as “Cheetara throwing away duty for love”, I saw it as “Cheetara eventually reaching a breaking point with Lion-O’s tantrum”, because to me Lion-O was the asshole in New Alliances. He’s my son and I love him, but New Alliances was him at his absolute lowest. He’s got inferiority issues that I sympathize with, but that doesn’t mean he gets to throw accusations at Cheetara and throw away Tygra’s life.

And I certainly don’t think Cheetara ever stopped caring about Jaga and what he taught her. Her dispelling the curse on Mount Plun-Darr and knowing instantly it was Jaga’s work felt like a good indicator of that connection. It just doesn’t come up much because Cheetara gets so little focus on her own. That’s why I want to give her an arc about bettering her magic and rebuilding the order, to give her a story all her own that she isn’t a secondary player in.

I also think about Lion-O and Tygra’s relationship a lot, but for me it’s because I thought the show did a really good job of showing how both of them hurt and are hurt by the other, a cycle where I get where both of them are coming from but they’re both still jerks about it. Lion-O felt like no one thought he was good enough compared to Tygra, and Tygra thought Lion-O got everything that mattered just by existing no matter how hard Tygra tried. They both can’t help taking their frustrations out on each other and they both can’t help wanting to compete. And yet underneath it all, they do still love each other. It was complicated, never one thing all the time.

Claudus was an incredibly flawed father. I do think he loved them both, but he could never help himself from snapping at Lion-O for not meeting his expectations. His rigid ideas of what is and what should be helped get Thundera toppled. I think in his last moments he may have realized that, but it was too late. I think Leona would be heartbroken to see what happened to her boys, but she’d be glad to see them finally working it out.

I’m sorry, but I have to admit I’m a little confused by what you say you wanted to see from Tygra in the Trials episodes, because that is what happened. The whole point of the subplot with Tygra and the others infiltrating the Black Pyramid was to show Tygra failing to lead the way he thought he could, realizing that this isn’t what he wants, and what he wants is his brother back. Punching Slythe wasn’t his only reaction. I went and grabbed some screencaps from my liveblog to hopefully show you what I mean.

I don’t think “hate” is an accurate word for how either brother felt about the other, their relationship is more complicated and interesting than that. But I do agree that Lion-O did want Tygra’s approval, at least at some point. The flashback in Between Brothers was dripping with the energy of a little sibling wanting to be included in their older sibling’s activities. I’ve been both siblings in that scenario, I know what I’m talking about. And yeah, Lion-O did go to bat for Tygra when Ahnet issued his prophecy, and Tygra did go to bat for Lion-O in episode one when he went to protect the lizards from an angry mob. They had a genuine heart to heart in The Forest of Magi Oar before Tygra brought up Cheetara and Lion-O made it weird. They have massive issues with each other, but when the chips are down, they’re there for each other. Usually.

I admit, a lot of the developments in Lion-O and Tygra’s relationship aren’t explicitly stated, just kind of left for us to infer how things are changing, and I still think Lion-O needed to go on an apology tour for how he acted in New Alliances. But I think the developments are there if you look for them; I tried to point them out as I came across them in my liveblog. I saw Native Son as “They’ve had their wake-up call, here’s them trying to fix things. Tygra slips a little, but Lion-O doesn’t let that break them apart again”.

As for Lion-O’s feelings about Leona, I don’t know if he feels as strongly about her death as Tygra does. He literally never knew Leona, so she’d be more of an idea to him than a person. If anything, what he’d feel strongly about is people blaming him for her death. Which lowkey, Tygra did, but the way it was presented in Native Son didn’t feel like an accusation to me, just Tygra describing his feelings and Lion-O giving him space. Like, he’s an adult now and knows intellectually that Lion-O couldn’t have chosen not to be born, but emotions are tricky, especially when you’re young.

I would definitely want to show each of them understanding more about the other’s pain, on top of just not letting their own consume them. They both felt so inferior to the other, so they’re really not so different. And now they can see each other more clearly, so there’s nowhere to go but up.

Slightly off topic, but you know what’s a really underexplored angle here? Grune. We know Tygra looked up to Grune, and there was one flashback where Grune was actively encouraging Tygra’s worst feelings by telling him he’s better and should just take whatever he wants. How much influence was Grune on Tygra’s view of Lion-O? How much of Tygra’s views on anything came from Grune? The bitter exes ruined friendship between Grune and Panthro was ultimately more important, but damn, Tygra should have to reckon with that broken pedestal a bit.

But this is just how I see things, sorry if these aren’t the answers you wanted >.<

[thundersolstice]

Shoot, I really need to get with the times and find a way into Twitter lol. It's the new fandom hub for everything now, isn't it?

New fan art from Twitter :D

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Thundercats

[lemonclair]

My hobby is getting into old and dead fandoms. Anyway thunder cats 2011 was animated by my fave animation studio 4C and I didn’t know this whole time 😭🥺 anyway here are the idiots.