#lily orchard’s madhouse
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sillygoblinantics · 2 months ago
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Working on Bonnie’s day out and found a thing that I need to make clear:
Pokémon’s age isn’t the same as exp
For the people in the back
Pokémon age is not experience points!
Why do I say this?
Because in Lily’s madhouse, Lily canonically pairs an underaged (and victim of grooming) character with her “celery friend”
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Marah is written like a child
Don’t worry this will be fixed in Bonnie’s Day Out!
Also
So far I’ve gotten three pages done of the first chapter; I haven’t figured out how many pages total it’ll be but know it’s worth sticking around for ;3
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nivatar · 4 months ago
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sickness-stricken · 3 months ago
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Apparently the “is it beastiality or not to want to fuck a Pokémon” discourse is coming up again in regards to PokeMadhouse and… yall.
Lily Orchard isn’t a zoophile because she wants to fuck the Pokémon that looks like an alien lady and speaks English
Lily Orchard is a zoophile because she commissioned someone she groomed to draw art of her fucking dogs
Like I’m sorry but can we please redirect our focus a little
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that-one-kiddo-in-the-back · 3 months ago
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Okay, so I'll admit I'm not a big Pokémon fan and correct me if I'm wrong but aren't they all animals and follow up if I may isn't writing a fan comic about fucking and having a baby with Pokémon, Beastiality?
I've been aware of pokemad's house, and for the sake of my own sanity, I've stayed far away from it as possible.
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newmoonking · 2 months ago
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Does anyone find it funny how Lily orchard portrays gardevoirs?
Like we all know that she portrays them as broken pseudo legendaries (and yes she has referred to them as pseudo legendaries in the past) but she also portrays them in a way that's antithetical to what gardevoirs are portrayed in the series.
Gardevoirs, while certainly portrayed as incredibly powerful creatures, are at their core, protectors. They dedicate themselves soley to the protection and well-being of those they care about, primarily their trainers. They are a graceful, noble, empathetic, and heroic creatures that use there incredible powers only for those they care about. This is also prevelant in Gallade who is an honorable knight while gardevoir is an elegant mage. This dosent amount to anything but I felt it was worth bringing up.
But how does lily portray them? As terrifying, unhinged, monstrous banshees. Ones that should be feared and respected if you know whats good for you, in other words Sylvanus in the form of a pokemon.
Now, this mischaracterization is fascinating to me because it looks to me that it comes from a place of insecurity. (Lorch is bitter and insecure, shocker) She is upset that other people don't have gardevoir as their favorite pokemon or meme about it as furry bait, and she sees that as an attack on her (not helping that shes also clearly attracted to gardevoir). So to salvage her ego she hypes up gardevoir and characterizes it as something that it was never intended to be.
And it's not just a case of Gardevoirs being portrayed differently in her webcomic. As all her posts about the pokemon and her pokemon "retrospective" show, she cannot differentiate canon gardevoir from the head canon she created for it.
But I'm not saying anything new, I simply wanted to put out my own thoughts on the matter.
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purpledemonlilyposting · 3 months ago
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The Chris Chan parallels just keep coming. Lily was actually going to put her sister who she (allegedly) abused in her comic to vilify her further.
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[Lily's Post]
Probably for the best the Poke Madhouse sideblog went down in flames with her last Tumblr blog when it got terminated.
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brunossan · 1 month ago
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About Syir, from Pokemadhouse
TW: Mentions of R4pe and Abu53
If you follow me for a while, must have seen my Pokemadhouse rage about Syir The Gardevoir.
But unfortunally i never explained WHY i hate her so much and why my blood boils when i talk about her.
So, here is the big explanation, in topics.
1-So, who is Syir and what did she do?
Syir is a character from Poke Madhouse, a now deleted pokemon comic made by Lily and Mikaila Orchard that talks about a pokemon world and the lives of their ocs and their pokemon in a house.
In this world Gardevoirs are the most dangerous and powerful species of pokemon, and Syir is a Female Gardevoir whose trainer is nothless than Diantha, The Kalos Champion.
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And not only that, she and Diantha are implied on being in a relationship, wich in Poke Madhouse world is seen as the worst crime a person can do, even if its consensual. Gardevoirs are the biggest victims in this, as Lily even said People call them "The Waifu Pokemon", and doesnt help they do a thing called Mating Bond, where they use their psych powers to fuse their lives together.
And in this case, if you think they have a very good relationship...
ITS NOT WHAT HAPPENS HERE.
Diantha in the comics is coerced by her Gardevoir into sexual relationships, even using her psych powers to rape her. And she cant escape or cut the bond, as Syir use it to control and track her, like a leash. Also, Syir kills anyone who discovers about the True nature of their relationship, and its implied in some comics that everyone knows the nature of their relationship but dont do anything in fear of getting killed next.
2-Why no one tried to stop her?
A thing from Poke Madhouse is that Gardevoirs are in risk of extinction and have very short lifespans because of excessive breeding to get perfect Gardevoirs and shinies (Basically Lily dissing People who do this). So they are an endangered species. Also, this was Lily decision, without any reason besides "why not?"
There were at least 3 People who gave reasonable plans to defeat her. Poison, Guns, attack with pokemons with type advantage. All good and reasonable things within pokemon universe. However, all Lily answered them was a meme.
This meme
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Basically, the answer to everyone wanting to defeat Syir. Literally a "You cant" in form of a bad meme.
Lily says that Syir is too powerful and evil to be defeated, to the point there's nothing anyone can do. Even G and C!Lily couldnt. Hell even Bonnie cant stop her, lily said that if they met Bonnie would cry and hide.
Actually, this will be the final topic, the reason i hate her.
3-Snitches get Stitches
In 2020, Lily added a thing in Madhouse wikia Page of Syir, currently deleted by her. She added a small lore info about Diantha and Syir.
Diantha one day managed to escape Syir and tried to find Help on the last person who tried to stop her Gardevoir: C!Lily.
C!Lily was an enforcer, a kind of pokemon cop, who really tried to stop Syir. However, Syir almost murdered both her and G, wich made C!Lily abandon all investigation she made, and made her terrified of Syir.
Diantha begged her for help, to find a way to save her. But C!Lily didnt wanted to help, because Syir threatened to kill everyone who she loved if she tried anything.
So what C!Lily did?
She gave Diantha back to Syir.
She GAVE. AN ABUSE VICTIM. BACK TO ITS ABUSER.
Now you get it why i feel so much hate towards her?
I dont care about any drama of hers, i cant EXCUSE THAT SHE WROTE SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND WANTS ME TO LIKE HER CHARACTERS.
TO LIKE G, C!LILY OR ANYONE ELSE.
She May have deleted the original pages and only left the nuke attack she gave to Syir.
But i will never forget what she did.
And i will never forgive.
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Lily "anyone who calls out unhealthy, codependent and possibly incestious tendencies between siblings is just a jealous, abusive bitch who is the real danger here" orchard.
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ringleader-inky · 26 days ago
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Apparently Lily didn't read her own fucking work so let's go over it shall we? First of all:
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If you didn't want to fuck your gardevior then why make the mating bond a thing at all? Also while revisting the poke madhouse archieves I found some... interesting things that I'm just gonna leave those here.:
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Yeah people totally believe that you don't want to fuck gardevior. As for the other shit look no further then this short made by Sai. In which LILY HERESELF mentions siblings who were recently adopted and then fucked, two sets of enmeshed siblings, and two siblings THAT ARE MARRIED!:
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liquidorcard · 1 month ago
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Okay, I need context— WHAT did Mikaila trace??
I think she's traced a few things. I kinda thought this was common knowledge she does this, lol.
But the example I saw was a frame of clay face from the Harly Quinn show?
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I thought Essence of Thought drew this one, but maybe it was Mikaila? I don't know.
Tracing discourse is more of an art hobbiest thing. Not really something people who do it for a living worry about. The issue with tracing is that if you do it instead of learning anatomy, rendering, the design fundamentals, etc-- you're just never going to improve.
But like, if you're working as an illustrator, animator, graphic designer, concept artist, etc. You need to know these things.
Photobashing is a very useful skill when you're a professional artist. It's basically like, high skill tracing, where you're rendering directly over/incorpating reference directly into your image. Here's an example, this concept art for Resident Evil Village is photobashed, and that's pretty industry standard:
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You can see the photographed elements have been integrated directly into the painted elements.
There are deadlines to be met, prints to go out, and finals to get delivered. Especially with concept art, that's just preproduction stuff, it's really not the time to lovingly render every single aspect of something you're client or project manager's going to make you redo 3 million times, if not totally scrap to go in a different direction.
Photobashing is a cheat you need to have all the skills required to render, paint or draw something properly already to do right though. You need to be able to match lighting, perspective, scale, etc. Or else you'll get fired for being incompetent and handing in something that looks like a bad photoshop job.
I wouldn't photobash while I'm painting on my own personal time because, like, why am I painting just for fun at all at that point, but. It does take longer, however.
Doing figure drawing exercises and studies are also really important to keep your abilities sharp-- it's like an art workout. Tracing or photobashing those defeats the purpose.
Honestly, I really don't care if hobbiests trace personally. If they get that they won't improve and they're okay with it, who am I to poopoo on what they do for fun?
Mikaila charges way too much for her commissions given her skill level, but. Like, you can just tell Mikaila is very limited in her abilities, so . . . You know, it's not really false advertising? It's hard to fake being a better artist than you are, lol. You'd have to be stealing art and impersonate a real artist to do that.
I think hobbiests see tracing as a sort of "stolen valor." And, yeah, it's a little funny to me if Mikaila is in her 30s and trying to hide how she does her work, but. Unless Mikay starts trying to pass someone else's work as her own to scam people, I don't give a shit, personally.
I don't want to bully here in a way I don't think is cool, but like, look at this. Look at the mismatched perspectives, anatomy and styalization. I'm kind of shocked anyone can't tell this is all traced:
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bonnies-day-outofficial · 22 days ago
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As the first official post of the new side blog I thought I’d share with yall the process of how I went about re- designing/writing/imagining the characters and story of Lily Orchard’s PokéMadhouse!
Re-Madhouse — G
Starting with the as Lily puts “Co-Protagonist” of PokéMadhouse, G the gardevoir.
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When I first read madhouse I didn’t like the way G was written, I couldn’t accept that she was truly the one who did wrong granted the circumstances of the real life relationships that get this toxic, for the life of me I felt that G was the victim. From the way she’s written to her internal (and lack of struggle that isn’t resolved with a “get over it” by Lily) struggles/conflict. The way G comes off when interacting with other Pokémon, people and even Lily she acts like an abused dog who is on edge every millisecond of their life afraid of being hurt and dying.
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G was always detached and acting like someone stronger than she was always masking and hiding. She was scared and confused and irrational. While reading I just couldn’t shake the feeling that Lily was lying to G about the bond shit and that’s what got me motivated and inspired to write G the way I did:
A nervous and anxious Pokémon who has to keep her head on a constant swivel to make sure she doesn’t get caught off guard by Lily or the other Pokémon on Lily’s ‘main team’ while wandering the halls in a confused and lucid daze.
So I took this to mind and heart when I was redesigning her. Of course this was after I did a semi satiric piece that applied my personal headcannon and take on the ralts line with given scientific applications to it! {click here for that!}
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But when it came to actual elements for G in “Bonnie’s Day Out!!” I started to do my research and gathering for reference that would not only fit well with her silhouette but her character as well!
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The basis of her design was heavily based on Anthy from RGU. Getting proper information from @saiscribbles as to her character thriughout the show: plots, goals, arcs and motivation; but more importantly her relations with the characters around her.
When it came to the style I had already locked in on limitations and rules for my version of gardevoir:
Depending on the age/maturity of the kirlia when they evolve (exp ≠ age) the style of “gown” will match and stay even as they age.
Younger gardevoir have more fairytale/disney princess type gowns
Older gardevoir have sharp, mature and a runway flare to the gowns
That being said; I immediately began to look up designers who screamed for my attention that suited G! But I wanted to find designers who had a somewhat hard life or story to really feel appropriate. The two I found the most right with G were: Paul Poiret and Cristóbal Balenciaga.
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With all my ingredients ready I went into designing the final look!
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It means the world to know y’all are loving this series and rest assured to know that there will be more posts like this where I share my process of reimagining PokéMadhouse!
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sillygoblinantics · 2 months ago
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Bonnie’s Day Out
Pt 0&1
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:3
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nivatar · 4 months ago
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neatangent · 3 months ago
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I honestly believe that Lily has a chronic fear of being in the wrong , something that on much MUCH lesser extent I have too
she keeps deleting videos and stuff she makes , she keeps coming back on “reformulate” her opinions and on the most egregious , she just pretends it never happened
she is her worst obstacle , the reason she stagnated so much as an artist is because she blocks her own growth , even if you remove the allegations , this is the worst possible choice an artist can make , not learning from their mistakes
to anyone out there , be cringe and be free , recognize your limitations and mistakes , so you can learn from them , keep a record of them as testament to your growth , don’t be an Lily Orchard
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citrineghoul · 2 months ago
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Tonal issues in Poke Madhouse
I always found it ironic that Lily criticizes Dungeon Meshi for having a tonal shift in the series, considering her own comic has these issues but worse.
Lets talk about the Violate arc:
C!Lily finds out about the mating bond between her and G. The bond was formed not only when she was a teen but also asleep. This upsets c!Lily. A lot. She feels sick and yells at G about this breach of trust to the point that c!Lily has to leave the room.
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(One thing about Mikailas art is that the characters are quite expressive. The art shows the anger c!Lily feels)
Alright, clearly the comic wants us to treat this as a serious issue that changes the relationship between the two. Oh? But whats this?
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Keep in mind this was made around 2020. This one panel completely took me out of it. And the comic still wants you to treat this seriously! These are the next panels:
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Not only has "le word" not been funny since 2014, it completely ruins this moment! But its not the only moment like this in the arc.
After not hearing from G c!Lily gets scared their bond got severed. She checks up on G which leads them to have a calmer conversation about this.
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Okay, hopefully nothing ruins this-
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OH GODDAMMIT. What is this? Why is another characters interrupting this moment? I wouldnt mind c!Lily (since she is the victim in this scenario) making a small joke to ease the tension a bit, but this just doesnt let the moment ring out. And this keeps happening throughout the arc.
In conclusion, Lily was throwing stones in glass house. What else is new.
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lillian-v-orchard · 6 months ago
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03/06/2022
Will there be more pokemadhouse? Well if Mikaila could be bothered to DRAW MORE COMICS FOR MADHOUSE...
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