#like yeah yeah he had his redemption arc
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orchid-merryweather Ā· 4 months ago
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"are you begging for mercy?"
"no"
"good, you don't deserve any"
EZRAN YOU COLD MF
"Maybe I want to see you suffer"
SOREN YOU COLD MF
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welcometogrouchland Ā· 5 months ago
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Disgustingly messy and crusty sketch dump but I couldn't get my own terrible theory out of my head and ended up making a bunch of sketches about it. Also at the end a bonus dickbats and Damian doodle bc I was reading an issue of their Batman and Robin run (IDs in Alt)
#dc comics#dc#batfamily#batman#damian wayne#stephanie brown#tim drake#dick grayson#cassandra cain#duke thomas#anyway. zdarsky run sure is something huh?#its still so funny to me that half of 148 was leaked a few days before like someone has it OUT for that book over at bleeding cool ig#i don't necessarily think this theory will come true I'm just imagining how stupid it would be if it did#I'm not super happy with the dialogue in the cass+duke+dick comic but i felt my og dialogue might've read too fanon#mainly just bc cass' last sentence was originally shorter/just ellipses and duke said smthin like ''wait? villain arc?''#which you could easily find in wayne family adventures. even tho it would've been appropriate for this situation šŸ˜­#now the dialogue just sounds kind of generic (esp cass') and it's BOTHERING ME AUGHH. this is the comic book fandom panopticon /j#anyway Bruce is in the retirement home in this scenario /j#me n my friends were talking over discord and came up w the cursed scenario that jason is tims robin in this (apart of the 'redemption' arc#-that he's been nail gunned with in this run. god this run is so weird when it comes to jason. like it doesn't outright dislike him-#-like it clearly does damian and (more obviously) cass steph and duke) but the tone of everything w jason is still bizarre#god. anyway yeah i didn't draw him but please picture grown man tank Jason in the robin undies (ala tt 03 but dare i say better)#also the dick being silly sketch was bc the issue i was reading had damian refer to dick as 'jolly'#specifically like ''unreasonably jolly'' or something like that (god i love when ppl find dicks cheerfulness deeply unsettling hehehe)#and i thought it was so funny. bc damian met dick when we has going through his ''bruce is dead'' depression-#-and STILL thought that dick was extremely unserious. he sees happy dick and is like ''what is wrong w you. genuinely''#but at the same time he loves it#i need to stop reading their batman and robin run so scatteredly (or i can just reread nightwing must die...always a possibility)#anyway yeah šŸ‘ bad sketches be upon you#mine
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kacievvbbbb Ā· 3 months ago
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I know, especially with how much more proactive he is in the live action, some people think that Iroh was too complicit with Zuko and should have put more effort into pushing Zuko down the right path.
But I donā€™t know I think the point was that it had to come from Zuko. This great change had to be something that Zuko wanted for himself and not something Iroh pushes him into. Itā€™s why although he tries to distract or dissuade him subtly heā€™s pretty content to let Zuko do as he feels the need to (except when heā€™s taking insane actions that would have killed him if he wasnā€™t too spiteful to die) but yeah thereā€™s no obvious push to get Zuko to believe this or that or even to undo the fire nation conditioning he simply just worries for his safety and honestly with how reckless zuko was probably the safest route without pushing him into full mental breakdown.
Itā€™s not till heā€™s almost captured and they go on the run do you actually start to see that maybe Iroh has a side in all this and itā€™s not the fire nation. But even then being on Zukoā€™s side takes precedent. Itā€™s not until Zuko is on the cusp of real change, heā€™s right on the precipice does Iroh start to push a little harder but even then itā€™s focused in Zuko making a decision for his life one that nobody else can make for him. The closest Iroh gets to forcefully pushing Zuko towards any direction is him yelling ā€œIt's time for you to look *inward* and begin asking yourself the big questions. Who are you and what do *you* want?ā€. And then siding with the avatar during the fall of ba sing se.
If Iroh tried to manipulate him, take advantage of this scared angry child to unconsciously steer him towards his own side then heā€™d be no better than the fire nation, heā€™s just be another person wrenching control from Zuko life. But instead Iroh offers him that control, let him go out and see what the world is and let the conclusions of whatever he finds be the foundation on which he is rebuilt again and and again. Itā€™s why when he stands infront of Ozai and says ā€œ No, Iā€™ve learned everything! And Iā€™ve had to learn it on my ownā€ we feel that shit. Because yeah he did he struggled and he fought and he learned and damn it all, he is making a choice for himself.
The story works because Iroh isnā€™t his mentor, heā€™s his uncle and he loves him enough to push aside his own personal belief to allow Zuko the space to decide who he wants to be, to give him the agency over his own life. Thatā€™s why Zukoā€™s redemption works so well because heā€™s not forced into it, If he decides to join the avatar to take down the thrown that has been his choice. If he decides to stay with the fire nation be the prince he was born to beā€¦.well that had to be his choice as well. Because thatā€™s the crux of this. None of it matters if it isnā€™t Zuko, with everything that he has learned, making a decision for his own life.
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dizzybevvie Ā· 2 years ago
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girl help im thinking about Riku Kingdom Hearts
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setacourse4home Ā· 6 months ago
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Look, I think it's gonna be okay but I just want this on the record:
I am still highly salty over Captain Shaw dying in Picard S3. So if Rayner doesn't make it through Discovery S5? I am gonna be annoyed.
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mourn-and-watch Ā· 1 year ago
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one thing that especially irks me about cullen's so-called redemption is the attempts to redeem him through cole's words.
templars' abuses affected cole so badly it damaged his connection to the fade and his own nature. he was a spirit of compassion and witnessing what was happening in white spire turned him into a killer. he murdered lord seeker lambert in cold blood for what he did and most of the time he doesn't regret it ā€” and then he just. drops the "he's not like the other girls" lines about cullen.
and this is such a lazy and annoying move. another thing that is established about cole is that you particularly can't lie to him ā€” about your real feelings and intentions at least. whatever he states about other characters must be true and it is often used as a tool to deepen the characterizations of the main cast and in cullen's case it is just. blatant apologism. there's literally a banter where cole talks about atrocities commited by the templars and then he adds "oh no but cassandra and cullen aren't like that" and never elaborates. the game itself doesn't elaborate either.
like please don't tell me that the spirit who was shaken by knowledge that an innocent boy can die from starving because his jailors simply forgot about him would look in the eyes of a person who used to be meredith fucking stannard's right hand and still thinks that her methods were just a little too harsh but necessary and justified and say yeah. this guy is such a friend of mages. if only there were more templars like him
#this is such an overt bullshit like i don't even know where to start#and my main problem is that. i don't care about cullen. his redemption arc sucks because it's non-existent. but i do care about cole#and i love his cryptic comments so much because they really give you a look into character's head in a weird but interesting manner#and then. this happens. and you can say that ā€œoh but it means that cullen's REAL attitude is compassionate towards mages!ā€#but the thing about cole's comments is. he does expose characters' thoughts#but you've already had an opportunity to catch whatever cole makes clear in these banters#like. vivienne is afraid and it is shown in the game. dorian struggles with attachment and it is shown in the game#cullen struggles with whatever he's done to mages and ?????? ah yes#and i'm just. so mad. because i love what cole adds to the storytelling. and there's so much potential but he's used for apologism#because whoever wrote cullen was too lazy and/or preoccupied with making a knight in shining armor out of him#you can also point out that cole is used for solas apologism as well. but in solas' case you can catch that he feels conflicted#about his actions and goals. so yeah. it works. at least partially. so my point stays.#cullen's case is like. by the book example of horrendous breaking of 'show don't tell' rule#practically cole breaks this rule constantly. but as i said it doesn't feel off with other characters because of what has been shown alread#cullen critical#dragon age
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girlwiththegreenhat Ā· 7 months ago
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having just made it to KITT vs KARR i stand by my point that KARR has done nothing wrong ever in his life
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lemongogo Ā· 2 years ago
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vash w this hairstyle is literally so cute.. .. wolfwood matchies or smt T__T
#litearlly dont talk 2 me i saw the knives panel again and smashed everuthing inmy room and set myself on fire#am i wrong 4 thinking that he shouldve had a little more time.am i wrong for thinking this guy.having lived in terrible fear#his whole life 4 what he thought could happen 2 him. to his brother. DID happen 2 his sister#should be able 2 experience some happiness and comfort for once#like yeah the guy killed hundreds of thousands SUREE ok.AND??? let the guy breathe a little#BAHAHA no i think i do still agree w the ultimate ending of him using the last of his energy 2 generate that apple tree#its sweet and i do like the sentiment it was just. Too.soon after it was literally right after#and im like coughing and hacking and wishing.that he and vash couldve spent those few months living (somewhat) peacefully#and secluded.before everything that happened#i guess there is a bittersweet tinge to knives dying before vash woke up / could say gbye but idk.i just grieve 4 this guy#even if a clean redemption isnt like#feasible in a sense U KNOW!!!!!!! but then again i dont think. satisfying endings have to be clean cut and perfect#like he doesnt have to be redeemed i think. not everyone needs Redemption as it exists in its current form#&& i do think that even after all he did.comma.he wasnt entirely wrong?like you cant rly blame him 4 rejecting coexistence#based on the way plants have historically been treated (assuming he also telepathized with exploited plants after the great fall)#though not to say that his decisions/methodology is right ykwim#and i know yeaa yeaa there was a lot of hypocrisy in how he used the other plants 2 amass power#ok this is literally getting too convoluted there r so many conditional aspects to this but long story short i do thnk he deserved.#a little something at the end;______; even if just 4 me to see art of them together post-final arc .#< me dragging my knuckles in the sand w open wounds or smth#sry vash post turned into knives sadblogging EHAHEHA but its like the nature of this^ guys life anyways LMAO#trigun spoilers#trigun maximum#trigun#vash
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newvegascowboy Ā· 5 months ago
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I was kinda Jesting about it a little bit ago, but Killian and Shaun just have the potential to have SUCH a fucked up relationship. Shaun, the guy who considers the death of his mother to be collateral damage, who was going to free Killian as a social experiment, who finds out his dad takes off into a grief induced drug haze and becomes a raider overlord for a little bit. VS Killian, the guy who straight up tells him to his face "I love you, but I never should have been your father, and the parent who could have saved you is dead". Killian who realized he couldn't be the kind of father a child deserves wayy too late, but having a wife and kid was kind of all he had. Shaun who has to contend with the realization that his dad thought it was a blessing that Shaun and Nora were "dead". Killian who realizes he's done the exact same thing his parents did to him. DELICIOUS.
#fallout#kal talks#killian#shaun#killian was an addict before the bombs fell and hid addiction is very much a parallel to how the us army treated soldiers#in Vietnam#in which soldiers would become addicted to drugs that were freely available in country and then have access to Zero recovery resources#once they were shipped home#also like. no resources for PTSD therapy lol#and Nora KNEW. she just didnt say anything#told herself it was fine unless he brought it home#and he didnt for a while. until he did. and they separated because of it. they were only briefly back together because killian promised#to recover#and then yk. bombs.#nora is rightfully frustrated with killian because of Killian's lack of initiative#SHE asked him out SHE proposed SHE wanted a baby. but she never communicates this frustration to him until like The Fight they have#*she never communicates this until The Fight they have where she decides to take off and take shaun#like dgmw killian genuinely mourns nora and shaun when he believes they're dead but a part of him is relieved#that they dont have to try and survive in what the world has become#and a big part of his character arc as a whole even beyond the redemption aspect of atoning for the Overboss thing#is overcoming his depressed and pessimistic world view#that the world IS worth something#that there is hope and we must try to make the world better#because if we dont then it will be just as bad as you believe it to be#facing off with shaun is Killian's final challenge#to look at his son and acknowledge the way he failed him. that killian did not believe in a world where shaun survived and thought#it was a mercy that he 'died'#and they both suffered for it#Killian's gotta face the music and be like 'yeah i failed you and i can never undo that and im sorry. i wish i had been a better man'#'and all i can do is be one now.'
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empty-blog-for-lurking Ā· 4 months ago
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Rewatching some clips of King Bradley fight scenes(fmab, particularly the ones during the end) and i am sorry for this but Zarkon deserved that- he deserved a climatic fight to the death at the end of the series with his character foil (who themself had a character arc and introspection throughout the series symbolically shown during this fight), he deserved to go down fighting where it took blood, sweat and tears of several people to get here and has audience knowing this was not a fair fight and if he had been in his top condition and not wounded he would have won but still cheering for his death. He deserved death at the hands of all those whom he hurt and he deserved to be remember as a monster he was
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the-irrelevant-trumpeter Ā· 2 years ago
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sometimes fanfic makes me forget that chris bean is a huge asshole lmao
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silverselfshippingchaos Ā· 8 months ago
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could cozy up to me- ahem
#ash rambles šŸ’š#i love him soooo much! i know i get stubborn about it sometimes but he really does have my heart#him and ash get together post-game so i love writing him and his development and him learning to be a better person#theyre not together during the game. theyre enemies during the game. theyre also both kinda immature late teenagers/young adults#(i just wanna make it clear that there's nothing weird there going on!! he and ash have had mutual attraction to each other since they were#kids but they dont get together until theyre adults and he is an adult in canon!!!)#but back to what i was saying#his development with ash is sooo goooddd! they spend a little while doing mercenary work together! ash has quite long hair and man ajsjajsh#the way he learns how to take care of her hair always makes me soo warm and fuzzy inside! he may be a bit of a meanie but he is a#surprisingly affectionate bf! f.f8 s/i probably also straightens her curly hair like i do and he just likes helping and stroking her hair#there's a lot of playful bickering though! lots of matches of triple triad too! whoever loses does the dishes LMAAOO#man.. he's so handsome and strong... i love how he's always so dedicated to being a knight and a protector... i know he uses that as an#excuse to like. do horrific things in the game but!!! in the mobile game you can see him develop and i really do like his redemption arc#from mean ass bully to kinda mean ally that'll protect you no matter what. his character is so good especially when you consider that he's#literally been forced into training since he was five. lots of things to analyze and think about there#but back to the knight thing!! he always says he's ash's knight! makes my heart flutter hehe! though he is very well-aware that ash could#kick his ass... and he loves it! he's not big on using her beloved guns (shes very picky about who touches her sweethearts too) but he does#like watching her epic gunslinger gf in action hehehe! okay yeah i think thats enough rambling for now#i got sick šŸ˜” i'm okay and it'll pass but expect a lot of half-asleep f/o rambles LMAAOOO#okay yeah. tldr: i <3 s.eifer a.lmasy#your knight until the end šŸ¤
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amandabe11man Ā· 10 months ago
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so me and my friend are onto season 4 of X-files now and we got to the csm-centric episode, right. and when he put the sniper rifle up from the window at the start I was like "whoa there. jfk assassination much?"-- and then the flashback starts and wouldn't you fucking know it, csm was the one who killed jfk??
this made me joke about how "what is he, the dark version of forrest gump or something? lmao" (ie. being present at a bunch of historical happenings), and then it seems like I was right because after that, he killed martin luther king too... aND TH E N towards the end, they make a fuckin forrest gump reference???
guys I think I'm finally becoming psychic
#x-files#anyway good season so far#'the field where I died' was another good one#this ep was fun too ngl cause I'm afraid I love to hate this guy#I love how it shows how /weak/ csm actually is#seems like he just gets swept up in shit all 'okay I guess I'm doing this now (hashtag powertrip)'#dude has all the agency over a bunch of others but he has no agency over himself#he couldn't even resist the peer pressure to start smoking. bruh#and he couldn't even follow through with it when he tried to /stop/ smoking either#and then when he thought he was gonna get a big break as an author and was like 'fuck yeah I'll resign from the evil job now'#..but then the editors changed the ending when publishing it so he was like 'nvm. fuck everything. violent path it is then'#that whole thing reminded me so much of john in Saw X too when he thought he'd been cured-#-so he threw away the trap-sketches he was making. guy was gonna straight up quit being jigsaw bc he thought he would get to live after all#wait a sec.... john has cancer and is a villain... csm is called 'cancerman' and is also a villain........ [connecting dots in my mind rn]#but yeah um-- back to what I was saying- this ep somehow made csm a bit less infuriating for me?#cause now we got to see that actually he doesn't have everything under control. in fact it's like he barely has a will of his own#bro has zero conviction. barely any willpower. no life. if he fails at something once- that's it. he'll quit trying forever#he's literally a loser. we love to see it#(also wtf I didn't think deep throat would be the one who argued FOR killing that alien while csm was the one who questioned it?)#(but deep throat SAID to mulder later that he regretted the things he'd done an d he helped the good guys in the end so....)#(deep throat had his redemption arc. love that guy....except for when he killed the alien. that wasn't cool)
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kacievvbbbb Ā· 3 months ago
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I know, especially with how much more proactive he is in the live action, some people think that Iroh was too complicit with Zuko and should have put more effort into pushing Zuko down the right path.
But I donā€™t know I think the point was that it had to come from Zuko. This great change had to be something that Zuko wanted for himself and not something Iroh pushes him into. Itā€™s why although he tries to distract or dissuade him subtly heā€™s pretty content to let Zuko do as he feels the need to (except when heā€™s taking insane actions that would have killed him if he wasnā€™t too spiteful to die)
The closest Iroh gets to forcefully pushing Zuko towards any direction is him yelling ā€œIt's time for you to look *inward* and begin asking yourself the big questions. Who are you and what do *you* want?ā€. And then siding with the avatar during the fall of ba sing se.
If Iroh tried to manipulate him, take advantage of this scared angry child to unconsciously steer him towards his own side then heā€™s just be another person wrenching control from Zuko life. But instead Iroh offers him that control, let him go out and see what the world is and let the conclusions of whatever he finds be the foundation on which he is rebuilt again and and again. Itā€™s why when he stands infront of Ozai and says ā€œ No, Iā€™ve learned everything! And Iā€™ve had to learn it on my ownā€ we feel that shit. Because yeah he did, he struggled and he fought and he learned and damn it all, he is making a choice for himself.
The story works because Iroh isnā€™t his mentor, heā€™s his uncle and he loves him enough to push aside his own personal belief to allow Zuko the space to decide who he wants to be, to give him the agency over his own life. Thatā€™s why Zukoā€™s redemption works so well because heā€™s not forced into it, If he decides to join the avatar to take down the thrown that has to be his choice. If he decides to stay with the fire nation be the prince he was born to beā€¦.well that had to be his choice as well. Because thatā€™s the crux of this. None of it matters if it isnā€™t Zuko, with everything that he has learned, making a decision for his own life.
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lord-squiggletits Ā· 2 years ago
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While I'm here being salty, I think one of the funniest parts of the IDW1 fandom is how people hyperfixate on specific parts of the story and ignore/don't read anything that contradicts their worldview, which is how you get people in this fandom calling IDW OP stuff like "worthless liberal centrist cop" when OP spent almost his entire life (4 million years of war + post-war until his death) directly opposing racial superiority and colonialism against organics and struggling with the guilt and attempts at reparation that comes with his species' history full of greed and imperialism. Like, shut the fuck up acting like IDW OP has no political stances or moral convictions worth anything lmao
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collectivecloseness Ā· 2 years ago
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Also can I say, this gif I used?
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Fucking kills me
The TEARS in his eyes
The way he realises how different his life could be. How fucked up this ten year journey has been. How he feels seen but also ashamed at the same time.
Not even looking at his comments, half of which are bullying him. Because heā€™s actually letting himself feel some of these emotions, which he probably hasnā€™t done as much for a little while.
Thereā€™s so much I could say about that scene
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