#like seriously felix is only here for adrien
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ilikekidsshows · 3 months ago
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Kind of tired of seeing this trend, "Adrien will try to make the wish if he loses Marinette" this or "Marinette could handle immortality without him better than he could without her" that (a more recent flavor), as if the situation isn't:
One of them grew up in a stable and loving home, with doting and supportive parents who (presumably) taught them fundamental life and social skills, never had to doubt their parents' love or otherwise be worried for their own wellbeing/emotional security, and on top of all that they currently have a giant support system willing and waiting to come running at the drop of a hat.
On the other hand, the other grew up severely isolated from the outside world, with extremely limited (if any) opportunity for healthy and vital socialization with others their age, slowly watching their primary caregiver (and number one source of love and social interaction) deteriorate until finally "dissappearing" one day, whilst being neglected by their other 'caregiver' to the point of questioning whether said parent loves them. And this doesn't even touch upon the abuse or dwindling support network (that's being largely co-opted by the other person).
(Now, if we stopped there, it might be tempting to conclude that the first individual is likely to be the more well-adjusted of the two, able to bounce back from life's hits thanks to the advantage their secure childhood gave them. But. It's not over!)
Of these two, one is demonstrably an anxious wreck, paralyzed by their every mistake, and requires others to provide routine pep-talks assuring them they are "the best in the world, ever" to be able to even nominally function. All around reliant on others' emotional support at every turn.
The other already has experience with loss, having lost the literal, actual *most important* person in their life, who was *also* their only consistent source of love and affection, and was able to come to terms with losing them, within *one year*, to the point of deciding not to use a magical wish to bring them back to life (the option/temptation was quite literally in the palm of their hand)???
So...who sounds more well-adjusted now?
To me, Marinette stans give her waaaay too much credit. Girl has had every advantage between the two of them, and yet *still* can't function without constant support. She has demonstrated little to no resilence through her own merit, nor proven to have effective coping skills beyond 'let my partner/boyfriend/best-friend/ex-boyfriend/insert character here lift me up'. Which, it's fine to rely on others at times, but let's not pretend Marinette's "coping skills" are anything beyond a complete and total reliance on external validation.
On the other hand, Adrien is remarkably well-adjusted and resilient for someone with his background and lived experience. More than he should be, realistically. But the point is, he has on screen turned down/explained why he wouldn't use the wish, *twice*. Furthermore, he's moved on from the first love of his life, Ladybug (even if he doesn't know this isn't exactly true, he still experienced the very real emotional journey of accepting she didn't love him back, so the grieving process was *true for him*; tell me that Marinette has ever had to do the equivalent; more on this below*).
Point is, there's precedent, multiple times, that *this boy knows how to deal with loss*, even with almost no outside support in developing coping skills (seriously, who did he learn them from. Nathalie?? Press X to doubt). Also, when have we ever seen this boy receive support from others regarding his mother outside the episode *Felix*? Despite what the Paris Special might try to tell us, what we see...is that he's done very well for himself with very little.
*Despite her thinking she *should* at various points, Marinette has notably never truly been forced to move on from Adrien. Hell, girl even got the boy with zero effort or stakes, seeing as he confessed first. You can't convince me this girl, who in season 6 alone has been demonstrably jealous, self-preoccupied, and execessively anxious, bordering on straight-up neurotic, when worrying about losing him (as a boyfriend! We're not even talking death like in the original question!), would fair *better* than he would.
Tl;dr she'd be on the verge of absolutely floundering without her support network; he has survived despite the severe lack of a sufficient one.
I'm not trying to argue either one would be *at all* fine with losing the other, but all-around...Yeah, miss me with that. 🙄
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A truly masterful takedown of this asinine argument (asinine in that it’s even considered an argument by Marinette stans), Anon. I think you’ve managed to cover most if not all things that make this a stupid thing to argue about. For once the mouthy amphibian has nothing to add, other than "this is very expected behavior for Maripologists."
I've discussed it before on this blog that Maripologists have a habit of accusing Adrien of Marinette's faults, of managing to find accusations that would suit Marinette better or things Marinette has actually done in canon, and then claim Adrien is doing the same things to make Marinette look less guilty. Maripologists love to claim anyone criticizing Marinette should be aiming the same or worse scrutiny towards Adrien every single time someone points out something they can't refute.
I can't remember all the examples right now, but I remember some. Marinette steals often, well, Adrien dine and dased on accident that one time so they're both thieves and criminals (this one is done more tongue-in-cheek). Marinette is gaslighting Adrien about his dad, well, Adrien told Marinette that it was mean to throw a party about Chloé leaving school that one time which is totally the same as gaslighting. Marinette repeatedly manipulates Cat Noir to get him to do something he wouldn't want to, well, Adrien gave Marinette bad advice about Lila which is the same as manipulating her.
In this kind of discourse space, of course Maripologists will see how possessive and obsessive Marinette is about Adrien, how entitled she is to him, how much she treats him like her property and how similar she is to Gabriel, and will try to turn all of this to point at Adrien instead. They're used to doing it, so they'll claim Adrien is the one more like his dad between him and Marinette, despite the canon never making that comparison but making the opposite ones repeatedly. Of course they'll claim Adrien is so weak and so reliant on Marinette that he couldn't function without her, when almost all of Marinette's dysfunctional behavior ties back to her inability to be normal about Adrien when Adrien gets so much better along without her that he's actually less happy as her boyfriend than he was as "just" her friend. They'll accuse Adrien to shield Marinette, because it's always all about Marinette.
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immaturityofthomasastruc · 2 years ago
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IOTA Reviews: Representation
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Oh, so NOW child abuse is bad. Could have fooled me last episode!
Let's get into the twenty-fifth episode of Miraculous Ladybug's fifth season: Representation
We start off with an English news report recapping the ending of “Revolution”, stating that Ms. Bustier is going to run for mayor, conveniently ignoring her attempted coup in “Collusion”. We also see that Gabriel and Tomoe are still uncomfortably focused on making Adrien and Kagami appear to be a couple in public, much to their dismay. While Kagami is visited by Argos (who once again sneaks up on her, like he usually does), Adrien realizes he can transform into his space form and see Marinette whenever he wants and transforms into Cat Noir, planning to reveal his identity to Marinette. Hey, did he even tell Ladybug about his sudden departure? Because it didn't go well the last time he left Paris without telling her (New York Special).
We then cut to Marinette right after the events of “Revolution”, going to the end of the year dance... even though when we saw Adrien and Kagami in London, the sun was still setting, and France's time zone is only about an hour later, meaning Adrien and Kagami must have flown there at ludicrous speed.
Meanwile, Argos and Kagami somehow got from London to Paris offscreen, and watch Marinette from afar, with Kagami revealing she knows she's Ladybug. They decide to tell Marinette that Felix knows who Monarch is in order to ensure his downfall. Nah, I'm just kidding. Here's the real reason they're coming to Marinette for help.
Kagami: My mother and Gabriel Agreste will never allow us to love each other freely. Only Ladybug can help us.
Yep, rather than prioritize the fact that Gabriel is endangering the citizens of Paris on a daily basis, Kagami is seriously more concerned about her relationship with her boyfriend being tampered with. This is like saying Lex Luthor is evil because he cheats on his taxes. Argos transforms back into Felix, and... oh, for the love of God... he disguises himself as Adrien in order to get closer to Marinette. You can't keep portraying Felix as this master of disguise if he only has ONE disguise!
Marinette sees “Adrien” and assumes he came back from London from her, assuming her boyfriend is much more active that the writers actually believe he is, so she tries to follow him while avoiding the guests at the party. Meanwhile, Gabriel and Tomoe learn their children are gone, so he goes to talk with Nathalie and—why the hell is she like that?
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Seriously, this has never been established as something that happens when someone uses the broken Peacock Miraculous. Why didn't this happen to Emilie? She looks pretty healthy in her little coffin, and I doubt Gabriel is an embalmer.
Anyway, after Nathalie once again reminds us that she hates Gabriel, but not enough to call the cops on him, Gabriel transforms into Monarch and immediately detransforms back in order to akumatize himself into Nightormentor.
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Nightormentor is a pretty average recolor of the Collector's design, which kind of makes sense, considering that Gabriel himself intended the Akuma for himself. The star pattern is okay, but there's not much I can really say. As for his powers, he's just another Sandboy, being able to force people to hallucinate their worse nightmares, only instead of a pillow, his weapon is a staff created from a pen containing the Akuma, with the Horse Miraculous' Voyage to boot. Why he didn't just give himself the same powers he gave Truth when he's trying to find Adrien is anyone's guess.
Cat Noir arrives at the Eiffel Tower to talk with Marinette, just as Nightormentor appears. The two fight, and after a few civilians get caught in the crossfire, Nightormentor escapes through Voyage. As Cat Noir heads to the Dupain-Cheng bakery at the advising of Max, Alya and Nino decide that the totally not useless Resistance should get involved.
While Marinette gives chase, Felix leads her into the school's art classroom, where he transforms into Argos and creates a Sentimonster using Kagami's ring. Felix and Kagami use the Sentimonster's power to do... uh... whatever the hell this is.
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Yeah, this is basically a flashback, but the animators probably blew their budget needed for the new models on Ms. Bustier's baby bump, so we're getting this instead, thanks to the Sentimonster Argos created. There are several scenes of Cat Noir and Nightormentor interspersed, but like what I did with Marinette's flashback in “Derision”, I'll give you the summary before I talk about my problems with this.
When Adrien's mother and aunt, Emilie and Amelie, were born, Emilie (who was born seven seconds early) was trusted with the family heirlooms, the two rings we first saw all the way back in “Felix”. Even though this meant she would inherit the family name, Emilie didn't really like doing... whatever the Graham de Vanily family wanted her to do, but Amelie did. Eventually, while studying abroad, Emilie met Gabriel, and the two fell in love. Before marrying Gabriel, Emilie gave up her role as the sole inheritor of the Graham de Vanily family's vague legacy, while Amelie married a man named Colt to please her parents. Both couples wanted children, but it's heavily implied that Emilie and Amelie were infertile, so their wishes weren't able to come true. Emilie finally managed to get a bun in the oven thanks to the Peacock Miraculous, but this made Colt jealous that he couldn't have a child. Out of the goodness of her heart, Emilie asked Gabriel to give the Peacock Miraculous to Colt, in exchange for letting the Gorilla guard Adrien in the future. Using his own jealousy as a source of power, Colt got Amelie pregnant, though at the cost of his health. Colt figured this was the price he had to pay for using “sorcery”, and used this as an excuse to treat Felix like a monster and ordered him around using the ring containing his Amok. Felix himself was unaware that he wasn't human until Colt accidentally broke the ring (which wasn't one of the two wedding rings used to control Adrien and was an entirely different ring containing Felix's Amok), which he stole as soon as Colt died. This is meant to explain why Felix decided to steal back the Peacock Miraculous, in order to save his life. Felix later met Kagami, and the two explain that they need “Someone like Ladybug” to help them.
Now if your only information about this episode is through my summary, it seems simple enough. For everyone else who actually saw this sequence in the episode itself, I'm guessing your thoughts were about the same as mine.
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Let's go over every problem I have with this scene, starting with...
#1: The Way Kagami and Felix Explain This
Let me just ask something: Why can't Felix just talk to Marinette about what he knows since he now knows she's Ladybug instead of telling her everything through this weird play? You can still tell Marinette all of this without your two-man show. In fact, why did Felix have to wait until he knew Marinette was Ladybug instead of just talking to her the next time he saw her? Yeah, you could argue it's easier this way, but like I've been saying since Season 4, Felix has had no excuse to wait this long to tell Ladybug about the fact that he knows who her greatest enemy is.
And why the hell is it presented this way? Why does Felix have to recontextualize the story of his family's history in the form of a play? Why turn it into a stereotypical fairy tale that leaves out the names of all the important people, like Emilie, Amelie, Colt (whose name I only learned through the transcript of this episode), and Gabriel? If it was like a hidden message Felix and Kagami wanted to convey to Marinette, that would make sense, but why do they have to be so cryptic when they're only putting this show on for one person? You could easily avoid a good chunk of the questions this raises if this was a show Felix and Kagami put on for the public that Marinette was able to learn the information from. Yeah, it still wouldn't explain why Felix can't just tell Marinette about who Gabriel really is, but at least it's something.
The way it all happens kind of reminds me of this scene from this old Halloween special I saw a lot as a kid, Scary Godmother: Halloween Spooktacular. In that scene, some of the kids act out a scene of this little girl's parents entrusting her with a flashlight to explain why she carries it around, in order to scare off any monsters she runs into, using the graveyard they were in as a makeshift set. This scene works a lot more because it's done in more of a tongue-in-cheek way, with some of the kids breaking character to boost their own egos (for example, the kid playing the mom comments about how responsible she is), and how one kid in particular gradually gets fed up with the whole thing. The scene does its job at delivering exposition in a way that isn't meant to be taken too seriously, and it's clear this is being done by some kids goofing around in-universe.
With this episode, it's clear that the writers want the audience to take this whole backstory seriously in spite of how absurd it all is. Seriously look at this.
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We are seriously expected to take this backstory seriously when it looks like some theater major's midterm project. The animators want it to look artsy and unique for the sake of making it look artsy and unique. Why does it look like a play these two put together themselves if they're supposedly using a Sentimonster's power to do it? If the unnamed Sentimonster's powers is how Marinette is seeing all this, why can't it actually be seen as a flashback? Was it always intended to be a handmade play that was changed to the product of a Sentimonster at the last minute?
I get that the animators probably wanted kids to pick up on the visuals of the play, but even then, it makes it hard to really stomach the serious themes this backstory brings up, like infertility and child abuse, with the way they're presented. Not only do Felix and Kagami all play the characters using these white jumpsuits and masks, they also do all the voices, meaning that the only “dialogue” we hear from Colt is delivered by Kagami putting on a deeper voice. Let me repeat that: the only times we hear Colt, the abusive parent and all around garbage human being, talk, it's done by a teenage girl trying to make her voice sound deeper.
But hey, maybe the goofy voice will be overshadowed by the nuanced depiction of child abuse, right? Right?
#2: The Portrayal of Colt and the Double Standards Regarding His Treatment of Felix
I have never seen a single show struggle this much to convey a lesson as simple as “Child abuse is bad”.
When it comes to the parents in this show, terrible parents like Gabriel, Audrey, and Tomoe are almost never held accountable for the way they treated their children. If the writers aren't claiming they really love their children deep down, they're either downplaying how cruel they are at best or playing their behavior for laughs at worst. But here we are, the penultimate episode of the fifth season, and we finally have a parent who is unambiguously treated as a terrible human being with no redeeming qualities... and I still have problems with this.
This flashback really goes out of its way to let the audience that Colt was a real piece of scum in life. He only wanted a child out of jealousy, used his Amok to force Felix to do whatever he wanted, was heavily implied to have physically beat him at times, and blamed him for his poor health on his deathbed when he was the one who wanted to use the Peacock in the first place. Now that I think about it, why did Colt even use the Peacock to create Felix instead of Emelie? Was the episode so determined to paint Colt as a bastard that he wanted to be the one to create Felix himself?
The point I'm trying to make is that the show doesn't really explain why Colt was like this. Why was he such an angry man who treated his only child like crap? I don't know, because all the show's telling me is that he was just a dick. He honestly feels more like a caricature than anything else. He's only as terrible of a person he is in order to make the audience sympathize with Felix. I'm not saying that what Felix went through was okay, but it has the same energy as scenes of Gabriel talking to Emilie's body. It's mostly there to make the audience sympathize with an antagonistic character in spite of all the things they've done.
What's really weird is that even though the whole point of this play is so Felix can tell Marinette Gabriel is Monarch, so what does Colt have to do with this? I'm not saying he's not worth mentioning, but it makes no sense for Felix to tell Marinette about his abusive father before he tells her about Gabriel. It feels more like Felix wants to find a way to excuse his actions before telling Marinette about Gabriel being Monarch. And remember when “Derision” made a big deal about Chloe's terrible parents not excusing her actions? Funny how that conveniently doesn't apply to Felix in this episode.
In fact, let's talk about the elephant in the room: The fact that this episode aired right after “Revolution”, an episode that literally said a character living under an abusive and controlling parent was a fitting punishment for her. HOW THE HELL IS THIS ANY DIFFERENT FROM THAT? If anything, this episode really shows the double standards this show has about child abuse, how the only way your situation can be taken seriously is if you're a “good victim”. Chloe's a “bad victim”, so she doesn't get any sympathy when her mother outright says she's going to take control of her life, yet when Colt actually takes control of Felix's life, we're supposed to sympathize with him now. Why am I supposed to feel bad for Felix now when you just told me I shouldn't feel bad for someone in a similar situation last episode?
In fact, one theory I have about this backstory is that it was intended to kill two birds with one stone, no pun intended. I believe that this episode wasn't just written to give us more insight into who Felix is as a character, but also to show the audience what “real” child abuse is like. As far as the show is concerned with Gabriel, Audrey, and Tomoe? They're not actually abusive parents, Colt is, so you should condemn his actions, and not those three. It's blatant double standards, which is nothing new for this show.
#3: The Way Amelie Just... Lets This All Happen
In my “Derision” review, I discussed how strange it was that so many people in Marinette's life did nothing to help her against Chloe, and the same thing applies here with Amelie.
This episode never really explains where Amelie was when Colt was abusing Felix, much less if she was even aware of it. At least with Marinette's parents, they didn't know because most of Marinette's suffering was at school. Amelie lives with Felix and Colt, so what's her excuse? She seriously didn't overhear Colt yelling at Felix or notice the orders Colt gave Felix? Was she just that ignorant to her child's suffering? Remember, this is supposed to be Felix's good parent.
In fact, does Amelie even know Felix is a Sentimonster? Yeah, “Emotion” established that Amelie knows Felix is Argos, but this episode doesn't really make it clear if she knows Felix is a Sentimonster or not. If it was clear Amelie knew nothing about what Felix really was, it would arguably make things easier to stomach, as she wouldn't know the power Colt had over him.
Instead, even though she's Felix's mother, the show doesn't really explain what she actually did when Colt was making Felix's life a living hell, especially since the flashback says that Amelie was forced to marry Colt, so you can't even say she was blinded by love here. Hell, I'm not even sure if Amelie knew the cause of Colt's untimely passing.
#4:This Doesn’t Really Do Much to Explain Felix’s Actions
Now before you say I'm being insensitive, let me make one thing clear: My issue isn't with the fact that this was done to get the audience to sympathize with Felix. The problem I have is that the backstory doesn't do enough to explain why Felix did the things he did.
Okay, Felix wants the Peacock Miraculous. Understandable, he doesn't want to die, so he has to do morally questionable things to preserve his life like betraying the only person capable of stopping the man who can kill him. What's less understandable is his plan to get the Peacock Miraculous from Gabriel. You'll notice that the backstory didn't mention Felix's first appearance, where he only stole the rings belonging to Amelie's family, and he didn't even think to look for the Peacock. Instead, it cuts from Felix realizing he's a Sentimonster to him striking a deal with Gabriel, not even mentioning that he gave Gabriel back one of the rings as part of the deal, which still makes no sense.
If Felix's goal from the start was to get the Peacock Miraculous, why did he bother stealing all of Marinette's Miraculous as a bargaining chip for the deal instead of the family ring? In fact, why did Felix even steal the ring and wait an entire season to trade it back to Gabriel for the Peacock a season later? And for someone who claims to care about Adrien, he really didn't see anything wrong with giving Gabriel one of the two rings capable of overriding his free will.
As a matter of fact, why the hell is Felix even so hostile towards Adrien? Why did he go out of his way to smear his reputation in his debut episode if all he wanted to do was make a bargain with Hawkmoth? In “Risk”, he mocked Adrien for how he talked, while Adrien himself was aware of how he made him look bad in front of his friends, and that's not even getting into how he made himself look like Adrien as part of his plan to betray Ladybug, which would have screwed him even more if Adrien wasn't already Cat Noir. For someone who claims he wants to protect him from Gabriel, Felix really doesn't care about his cousin all that much.
In fact, why does Felix even hate Gabriel at all? The show hinted that the two had a history, yet during the backstory, which I need to remind you, was told from Felix's perspective on the events, has a surprisingly generous portrayal of Gabriel. Did Felix know Gabriel was Hawkmoth/Shadowmoth/Monarch during his first appearance? Does Felix blame Gabriel for how Colt treated him growing up? Does Felix hate Gabriel for how he treats Adrien? Did Gabriel intend to get Colt sick in the first place? Seriously, what is Felix's deal with Gabriel?!
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How does a flashback organized by Felix himself do nothing to really explain why he did the things he did?
#5: The Fact That There Are STILL Several Unanswered Questions Here
For something meant to fill the audience in on several important topics, there are still so many questions about the history of the Agreste and Graham de Vanily families.
Other than the vague backstory about them being rich, we still know nothing about Emilie and Amelie other than them being rich and possibly infertile. We don't know if Amelie ever loved Colt, if she knew he was abusing Felix, or if she even knew if he used the Peacock to play god.
On a related note, why did Emilie and Gabriel decide to use the Peacock Miraculous to create a son instead of adopting? Scratch that, why did she specifically create a Sentimonster to give birth to like a normal baby? Was there some kind of Macbeth-esque guideline that Emilie had to give birth to a child in order for said child to get the inheritance? Did she use the ring to control Adrien like Gabriel does now? Seriously, this is the character the show's conflict is all based around, and we still know nothing about her other than the fact that she was nice.
This flashback just makes no sense, and is such a stupid and confusing way to deliver exposition.
Anyway, during all this, Cat Noir and Nightormentor are fighting, and for the third time this season, Cat Noir attempts to Cataclysm him someone, even when he had Nightormentor pinned down. Nightormentor breaks free and hits Cat Noir with his magic dust, causing him to hallucinate... Cat Blanc?
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Yeah, the script calls this form “Anticat”, but given how it looks like a reused Cat Blanc model coupled with the petrified people of Paris, this is clearly meant to bring Cat Blanc to mind. The problem is that NEITHER CAT NOIR OR NIGHTORMENTOR KNOW ABOUT THAT. Why would you remind audiences about an Akuma that technically never existed?
Better yet, is this what Cat Noir trying to his Cataclysm on people this past season (Destruction, Jubilation, Derision) has been building up to? The fear that he'll lose control? You could have fooled me, as he never really showed that much remorse for almost hurting people other than Monarch. Yeah, you could argue that because Nightormentor based his hallucinations off his victims' worst fears, but again, this fear had little to no buildup this season because Cat Noir never felt any guilt for Cataclysming Monarch after “Destruction”, and whenever tried to use his Cataclysm on other people, Cat Noir never really realized the weight of his actions. If you want to make a character arc about Cat Noir worrying about hurting people with his powers, go more into the guilt he feels for hurting Monarch and using that guilt to affect his actions. Don't just use some “Cat Blanc” nostalgia bait to convince the audience that there's been a character arc.
Nightormentor takes advantage of Cat Noir's emotional state to get his Miraculous, only for the Resistance to save Cat Noir by... throwing stuff at him. And this is how they defeat him. While Nino, Alya, Ivan, and Zoe distract Nightormentor, Kim and Max help Cat Noir focus, Cat Noir Cataclysms Nightormentor's baton.
Zoe traps the Akuma in a jar, Cat Noir doesn't take it, he heads off to detransform and confess to Marinette, only for the hallucination to still affect him since Ladybug didn't use Miraculous Ladybug to fix the damage, and even though he knows it's just a hallucination, he still uses it as a reason to not reveal his identity to Marinette, even after Ladybug de-evilizes the Akuma herself.
The episode ends with Gabriel and Tomoe locking Adrien and Kagami in these white rooms while under heavy surveillance to ensure they won't escape, vowing to start “Operation: Perfect Alliance”. Because these two like using the word “perfect” more than they like subjecting their children to what one of my anons referred to as “white torture”.
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Because that's a good way to keep your children under control: psychological torment.
Other than the stuff with Felix and Kagami, this episode was pretty dull.
There's just not much I can really say here. The plot was barebones, all Marinette did was listen to Felix and Kagami's story so the writers didn't have to involve any of them in the main conflict, and even Cat Noir confronting his akumatized father doesn't have a lot of weight to it because towards the end, it focuses more on Adrien's nightmare instead of his relationship with his father.
This episode is nothing more than a prologue for the final battle. It's only here to establish Adrien and Kagami's presence in London, Marinette learning Gabriel is Monarch, and even more setup for Gabriel and Tomoe's final plan. And trust me, the buildup will be far from worth it.
THE BIGGEST IDIOT OF THE EPISODE IS... FELIX
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It's amazing. The only time this season Felix goes out of his way to actually help Ladybug, and he still screws it up. He abducted Kagami from her hotel in London without thinking of Tomoe hunting him down again when that was the entire plot of “Pretension”, only decided to tell Marinette he knows who Monarch is because he's getting in the way of his relationship with his girlfriend, did so in an unnecessarily convoluted way, and even though he made a big deal about not wanting to use Sentimonsters in his last appearance, he still used one to tell Marinette his life story instead of just saying “My uncle is Monarch”.
And if you think Felix will get a chance to truly redeem himself in the finale, think again, bucko. Other than a brief cameo, this is the last thing he'll do this season. Aren't you glad the writers made this character prominent for seven episodes over three seasons and did nothing else with him?
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starsfic · 1 year ago
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Hollow Wedding
The wedding could've come from a magazine spread, it was so perfect.
Notre Dame was decorated in white, the only pops of color being red here and there and the stained glass window cast shimmering pops of color on the couple. On either side of them were the groomsmen and bridesmaids, three each, all dressed in matching outfits. It was a wedding straight out of a movie.
It was beautiful. Perfect.
Hollow.
Marinette Dupain-Cheng could practically feel the hollowness in the air. Despite what Alya claimed, that she still had deep feelings for Adrien, it wasn't that made her feel hollow. It was just too perfect. The way Adrien held his bride's hand, how he placed the ring on her finger, how they kissed. Each motion was perfectly rehearsed and bare of any real emotion.
The only thing that made it imperfect was that Alya kept glancing at her. Ever since Adrien had announced his engagement, she had pushed Marinette to do something about it. She still didn't seem to understand that Marinette no longer wanted Adrien. Since her break up with Luka, of course she would want to rebound with the guy who made her feel shame for her own emotions.
Of course.
Marinette didn't do anything and Alya finally settled with a sigh. She was almost like Chat Noir, who announced he was engaged out of the blue and kept glancing at her ever since the news, probably hoping she would react more than her congratulations.
She hoped his wedding was more real than this.
The reception carried the hollowness as well. It was all perfectly decorated and such as well, but there was nothing that could hide that feeling. And, as she sat down with Alya and Nino, she could see other guests look around, weirdly unsettled.
"Ugh, that was the creepiest ceremony I've ever sat through," Nino said in a whisper. "Like, I thought the bride was about to drop dead."
Marinette nodded. "I noticed it too." She glanced at the stage before Alya could comment any more on "her true feelings". "Aren't you gonna give a speech?"
Nino shook his head. "Nah, dudette. Gabriel made Adrien make his cousin his best man, so he's giving the speech."
"I didn't even know he had a cousin," Alya said as the cousin in question, Felix or something, started talking. "Who was the other guy?"
"I don't know, some model Adrien knows? From what I heard, the bride doesn't even know the bridesmaids, they're all related to Adrien or Emilie somehow."
"Huh? Seriously?"
Alya's eyes went wide. "Oh boy," she said. "Suddenly, I'm glad you never confessed your feelings, Mari."
"I'm glad you finally realized," she couldn't help but snark. Honestly, she would have rather died than have a wedding like this. She would've wanted to be married at the little temple her parents did, blending Chinese and French customs together and even having her parents make her wedding cake. With how Gabriel and Emilie this all felt, she wouldn't be surprised if Adrien's wedding had always been planned to be a wedding do-over. She pushed that thought aside to focus on the issue. "But, the bride didn't know any of them?"
Nino nodded. "Yeah. I asked if...uh..." He paused, trying to think. "I can't remember her name- Akane? I think that's her name, I asked if something had happened so they had to step in, but Adrien kinda just said that she didn't have any friends."
"She could've," Alya snarked, "If she actually bothered to show up to the hang-outs like you invited her to."
The wedding reception, thankfully, grew more lively after dinner was served after that comment. Marinette couldn't help but dance with Alya as Nino DJed, his music providing a spark of life to the hollowness of everything.
Soon, however, she had to pull away. "Getting some air!" she called so Alya could hear, receiving a nod. Marinette walked away from the huddle, stepping out of the reception entirely. The reception had been held in Chloe's hotel with doors leading to the roof.
And, up on the roof, was the bride.
Marinette, the moment she saw the white gown, was tempted to just turn and head back inside. But something in her paused, made her just look at the woman who married her lycee crush.
She was startlingly pretty, with short dark hair and eyes, even with the frostiness that always seemed to follow her, that had a hint of sweetness. The dress looked lovely, but it seemed washed out against her. If Marinette had designed the wedding dress, she would've chosen a more bold color, like red.
And then she realized that the bride was staring at her.
"Uh, hi, sorry-" Marinette said, stepping back. "I didn't know anyone was up here, I can just-"
"It's fine." Short and to the point.
Marinette nodded, walking up to stand next to the bride. They stood in silence together, just watching the city. No akumas had come today, despite her fears of Adrien's fan club reacting badly to him getting married. (Chloe's akuma in reaction to the news was enough.) It was another perfect moment for the movie that was this wedding.
"Akane, right?"
"Kagami, actually." The moment the correction hit her ears, Marinette wanted to shrivel up. Fuck, hadn't that been the name on the invite? She was so dumb! "Although that might as well be my name for how much Adrien cares about me."
"Huh?"
"It's Marinette, correct?" Kagami said, no explanation for her statement.
"Uh, yeah." Marinette cleared her throat. "I'm glad I could finally meet you. We tried to schedule stuff, but-"
"But you guys had to cancel. I understand."
Huh. Wait. What? "What, no? Adrien and you cancelled. He kept texting Nino that his dad suddenly changed his mind or you guys had a really important event."
"No. We would leave to meet with you and then he would get a text saying that stuff had to be cancelled so I always went home." She expected anger or maybe relief. Instead, Kagami's face seemed to crumple. "I bet he was with her," she said. A tear rolled down her cheek and she reached up, looking startled.
With the whiplash of Adrien supposedly lying to Kagami and maybe, possibly, lying to Nino and them, Marinette could only ask "Who?"
"The girl he's in love with," Kagami admitted, voice thick with tears. More tears rolled down her cheeks and it was heartbreaking. "You know, I should've taken it as a hint that, right after our first date, he admitted he wasn't over this girl. I pushed past it, I thought I could-" A sob welled up and Kagami let it out. Marinette couldn't help it. She wrapped her arms around her, hoping she could provide some comfort. The other woman froze, just for a second, before arms wrapped stiffly around her. "I thought I could change his mind. I thought we were so perfect together."
"Perfection isn't a thing," Marinette admitted. "No matter how hard Gabriel tries to think it is."
"I should've left him after we got engaged and he admitted that I was just a placeholder for this other girl," Kagami said, sending a hot wave of rage through Marinette. "I saw him while we were preparing. He kept checking his phone..."
I'll check my messages if you have any last-minute objections, my lady.
Marinette shook her head. No. Adrien wasn't like that. Except, as it turned out, he was. She pushed away those thoughts to focus on Kagami. A ridiculous thought came up, except in the face of all this, it probably wasn't that ridiculous. "...it's not too late to walk away." Sure, it would probably hurt Adrien to have his wife annul their marriage the day of their wedding, but what about Kagami?
"It is," Kagami sounded so calm about this, even with the tears rolling down her face. "Tsurugis don't back down from anything."
"Tsurugis should also be respected and be in relationships that respect them." It was snarky but true.
There was a moment of silence. Marinette almost pulled away from how still Kagami suddenly seemed.
Then the other woman pulled away, a cold glint freezing her face over, even as her eyes were puffy and pink. Marinette almost apologized when she spoke. "I'll meet you downstairs in ten minutes," she said.
"...Okay."
Kagami smiled and nodded before walking through the door. Marinette, left on the roof, blinked and then pulled out her phone. In an old group chat, she left one message.
PinkFlower: Get the car ready the marriage's getting annulled.
By the time she arrived at the parking lot, Alya and Nino, plus Juleka, Rose, Alix, Mylene and Ivan, were waiting at Nino's van. "What the heck did you do, girl?!" she said. "Adrien's already married one day and you become a homewrecker?"
"Not on that side," Marinette corrected. She turned her head at what sounded like a furious shriek and the music from the back-up DJ screeching to a stop. In the next minute, the doors opened, revealing Kagami.
Marinette's guess was right. She did look good in red, especially in the jumpsuit she had changed into.
"What did you do?" Marinette asked, just a little frightened and a lot swooning. Alya gaped, glancing from her to Kagami. Alix and Juleka, based on the noises, were stifling laughter.
"I did what I should've done a long time ago," Kagami said, holding out her arm. Marinette, still a little bit flustered, took it. "I told my mother about Adrien and his other lady. She's contacting our family lawyer now."
Damn. If her mother was anything like Gabriel...
"I also looked up some restaurants nearby. There's one with very good orange juice, if you would like?" She leaned in close, as if worried that someone would overhear and take offense. "The catering was not my choice."
...the food hadn't been great.
"Yeah," Marinette said as Nino opened the door to his van. "Yeah, I would like that."
Kagami's smile was beautiful, perfect, and full of life.
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thefcguy · 6 months ago
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Miraculous Ladybug Superhero Outfits Ranking
Since Season 6 is fast approaching, and we will get some much-needed redesigns for the main hero cast, I decided to review the main superhero outfits from the past seasons and rank them according to my opinion.
Small warning... there will be a lot of salt in some of this. and I will be using some of @zoe-oneesama 's designs for Scarlet Lady as a comparison.
Without further ado... time to start this mess of a list
24- Argos
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Where do I even start...
Well, I can start by saying that... NOTHING in his design works. It's painful to just look at.
The shade of green chosen doesn't clash well with the blue of the peacock. The green hair and the blue skin so close to each other makes the combo even worse.
The saturation of the blue isn't good either. If they wanted something more formal to Felix, they should have gine with a darker blue, Like Mayuras, or, Scarlet Lady's Blue blood.
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My biggest problem with this design is the green, though. The moss tone, instead of some more vibrant just makes the design weird to me.
Also, why do all the Peacock holders skin turn blue when they transform? This doesn't happen with any other miraculous.
If Felix kept his hair and eye color, used a mask instead of a hood, used darker blues, and, MAYBE, some brighter shades of green, the design would work.
But this?!
It's painful to even look at it.
23- Ryuko
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... Can someone explain me how a hero that has a DRAGON theme look so boring?
Just like a good majority of miraculous holders, her outfit is just a tight jumpsuit with little characterization...
Ryuko's, however, is specially bad, because, due to having the same color pallete of Ladybug, it feels unoriginal.
So, besides it being a simple jumpsuit like many other outfits I don't like, it also feels uncreative, which makes it love some points.
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Besides using SL!Ryuko as a reference to what it could be... I would like to talk about one of my favorite ryuko redesigns.
One created by my friend @natedogx15 . Like, he used the fact that she was basically a knight, and made her outfit look like armor. Look at how badass it is!
It's said that canon Ryuko's design is basically ladybug's color pallete with some details to try to make it different.
22- Ladybug
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This one was pretty obvious.
The suit is way too basic, especially considering that the hero behind the mask is a fashion designer.
It's also way to tight and it feels inappropriate for a girl Marinette's age to use.
It gets even worse if we remember that she was inspired by Spider-Man...
Like, seriously, this feels like a weird pajama a kid would wear. And even then, the PJ kids had better designs.
21- Chat Noir
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The same problems that I have with Ladybug's design are here.
Basic and overly tight suit, that feels innapropriate for Adrien's age. And, although I think the Bell it's silly... it's what helps to keep this design from being entirely bland.
And hey, the green eyes are interesting, at least...
Still, it's not a design I like. They could have gone with something similar to Black Panther or Batman. But, instead... they chose this.
20- Miss Hound
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Behold, the most uninspired design of miraculous ever!
It's literally just Sabrina's civilian outfits with a few differences. It's only a bit higher on the list because, the outfit is indeed more creative IN COMPARISON with the other hero outfits, and I like the beret.
But, seriously, Miss Hound design shows how little the show cares about Sabrina.
Her first, and main akuma, doesn't have an actual design, the second is a bit ugly, and the hero outfit is basically the civilian outfit with a new texture.
As a Sabrina Stan, I have to say... the girl deserved more.
19- Bunnix
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Fun fact about me: I am a BIG Alice in Wonderland Fan. I also love this shade of blue... and that's why Bunnix's canon's design is disappointing to me.
The outfit is generic, I can barely see anything that reminds me of Alix, it has no reference to any card suit...
It just feels unispired, specially considering how good it could have been.
If it is Alice in Wonderland inspired, Bunnix could have a top hat, a coat like the white rabbits... but, it's just... nothing. inspired by Alice in Wonderland, Bunnix could wear a top hat and a coat like the white rabbits, but... there is nothing.
18- Minotaurox
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Minotaurox is... an interesting case for me.
Because, honestly, I kind of like the design. Speically when people draw it on 2D.
But, a problem that the show has it's the rendering of uniform with darker colors... especially this shade of blue and black.
This colors just feel... lifeless in a way. They don't shine, or captivate... they are just there...
I just hope that, with the new animation style, the darker colors on the heroes look better.
17- Multimouse
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Man, I don't get the fandom's love for Multimouse. It's not a bad design, but... it isn't good either.
I like the use of the colors, the hairstyle, and yes, it looks more creative than Ladybug's, but that's not saying much.
But, I also understand that they couldn't complicate the design too much because of how many fusions there were in the episode.
That being said... Multimouse is an acceptable design. Not amazing, but, okay.
16- Purple Tigress
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Although I don't think the design is bad... it suffers from a problem of similarity.
Similar to how Ryuko's uniform looks too much like Ladybug's, Purple Tigress's looks too much like Rena Rouge.
Like, it's a lighter tone in the front, the main color of the miraculous is on the sides and back, and the character, who has her hair down on the civillian form, gets a ponytail after transformation.
Although I understand that Ponytails are probably more practical in battles... Purple Tigress and Rena Rouge's look too much alike.
I do admit I like the stripes. But, besides that, it's very unoriginal.
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Particularly speaking, I like the jacket that Zoe gave her with the power up look.
15- Rena Rouge
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Although it's not the worst design on the show, it's probably one of the most disappointing.
It looks too much like Volpina, and, even if Volpina's design was supposed to look like a fox holder, it doesn't mean that Rena Rouge couldn't look a bit more different.
Like, Queen Bee and Vesperia are both bee heroes. But, they look nothing alike.
Particularly speaking, I would have replaced the weird corset thing with a reporter trench coat.
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Imagine a Trench Coat like this with the fox tail at the end? And the hat with the ears? I just think it would be neat.
14- Flairmidable
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Flairmidable's design is one that... I don't care about.
It's very similar to Chat Noir's, it's true, but the use of colors make it more interesting. And it doesn't look as tight as Chat's uniform.
And that's what I have to say about the design.
It's not bad, but, I don't care.
13- Polymouse
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Although it is a pretty generic design, there are certail elements that I like.
The change on hair and eye color, the mask, the ears on the hoodie.
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And, once again, Zoe's redesigns proved that the concept could have worked.
12- Canigirl
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Honestly, it's kind of a good design.
I like how it uses the colors brown, black and white to create it's combo. The mask is adorable.
And I like the detail of the black spot at the beret.
Kind of sad that her design is more creative than the one of the official Dog Hero.
11- Pigella
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From now on, the designs are actually good, in my opinion.
Pigella's design is great. It's different from the usual jumpsuits, it reflects Rose's nature, and the ballerina tutu is great touch.
My only issue with it is that it doesn't feel like a Pig themed superhero.
Either way, it's one of the best female designs on the show.
10- Aspik
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Although many people complain on the whole "bald thing", I don't think Aspik is a bad design.
He looks like a snake, has some cool patterns and textures on the outfit, and I like the color pallete.
Like, yeah, it would probably look cooler if Adrien showed his hair, but, it's not all bad.
9- King Monkey
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It's a good design. Definetely not a jumpsuit, it has good sources of inspiration, it looks like a monkey...
It's one of the best designs on the show. It just isn't higher due to personal taste.
8- Carapace
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It's a good design as well. It fits Nino's aesthetic, it's an outfit that has a clear turtle theme, and the details like the boots, and the knee and the elbow pads.
In general, it's good as well.
7- Viperion
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Like Aspik, Viperion's uniform has some cool patterns and textures. But, besides them matching Luka more, his hair is the same color of his outfit, which I think it's neat.
6- Queen Bee
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This design is iconic, and it has it's reasons!
The way it uses stripes, the subtle but noticeable change on the ponytail.
Out of the five, in my opinion, she has the best design.
5- Pegasus
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Man, they were creative with this one.
Although his name is Pegasus, his shoes are a reference to Hermes, his uniform looks a bit like an armor (which makes sense, because he is kind of a knight), and the horseshoe on his neck.
They put a lot of effort on his design.
4- Vesperia
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I used to be a bit mean with this design... but I noticed that it wasn't the designs fault, but the animation.
Like, there are scenes where the outfit looks great, and others where it doesn't. But, it's mostly because of the rendering.
The uniform is actually very creative, and it's really cool how they manage to create something so different from Queen Bee.
MY only issues are the masks and the black streaks on her hair. They... don't look that good in the show.
(If you guys want to see some cool ideas for a redesign, I recommend @nerd-chocolate 's post)
3- Rooster Bold
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This design is FIRE!
The way they manage to incorporate so many Rooster details, like the claw, the beak, the comb and the tail.
Besides, it's different from every single other hero. It almost looks like a carnival costume on the best way possible.
2- Scarabella
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Behold, the best Ladybug holder design.
This one feels like it's inspired by Spiderman.
The upper part looking like a jacket, the use of black, the hair... it's all so creative.
It's one of the few canon designs I don't think that could be improved.
1- Caprikid
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This design had no right of being this good. But, it is.
The white and black contrast, the zipper, the fur, the horn. Just like Rooster Bold, it is also way different than the jumpuit pattern.
I only wished that they played more with Nath's hairstyle. Like, his miraculous is a pair of hair clips, and they do nothing with his hair...
But, still, out of all miraculous heroes, he has the best suit... in my opinion, a least.
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Now makes me curious how Izuku meets Kagami
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//Oh~ Are we getting into the Riposte episode? I believe so~ :D Alrighty, let see how Kagami fits in this AU~
Adrien begs for Izuku to join fencing classes.
Izuku thinks about it for a moment. Although it would benefit him in fighting akumas and build his stamina, could he even apply fencing with the use of his yo-yo?
Eventually Izuku does give in and joins the class.
Which makes practically EVERYONE joining to watch the class...including Chloe.
Adrien teases Chloe of this, especially since he knows she's not the sporty type unless it's ballet or various types of classical dances.
Izuku meets Armand D'Argencourt and his first impression?
'Someone that does take his craft a little too seriously'
Since there was only one spot available for the class, that means auditions are a must.
And so, Izuku gets paired with Adrien in the sparring match.
Which, to Izuku's credit, didn't go too well considering he's never held a sword before.
Adrien lifted his helmet up to look at Izuku on the ground once he lunged at him and touched at his shoulder, setting the green haired male off balance and making him fall to the ground.
"Wow, you're terrible at this."
Izuku pouted, "W-well fencing isn't exactly my forte."
"Funny, I thought you'd be good at this considering you've been good with everything else you try," Adrien pointed out, remembering how Izuku easily beat Felix in various games of chess, checkers and even a simple game of UNO.
"But that's strategic along with a slight of hand. With physical stuff like fencing, it would be hard for me. Remember, I sucked at playing basketball with the guys?" Izuku argued back, but stood up and got into position once more and placing his helmet back on while placing his saber up, "Let's try again..."
Adrien smiled, placing his helmet back on, "That's the spirit! Alright~ En garde! Prêts? Allez!"
Izuku gets a bit better after a few minutes, but he wasn't as skilled as Adrien was.
Meanwhile, the girls in the sidelines watching the both of them were cheering and swooning.
Chloe glares at them, almost giving the 'I'm going to gouge your eyes out if you oogle at my bestie and future husband like that'
Marinette is just there to cheer on her friends happily, even though she doesn't understand the whole thing at all.
And then...here comes Kagami.
"Hey you! Are you Monsieur D'Argencourt, The Fencing Master? I want to join your team!"
Izuku stares at the masked mysterious person in red, curiosity filling him.
And then...Adrien volunteers to fight this newcomer.
And thus the match begins, just as it does in canon.
Only this time, Izuku was the one that follows Adrien and the mystery fencer into the library once they went off course.
His eyes were able to follow easily, pursing his lips as he was careful to observe their moves. If he missed even a second...
"WELL?! WHO GOT THE FIRST HIT? WHO?!"
Izuku easily answered without missing a beat.
Adrien moved his mask up with a perplexed look, "A-are you sure? We did move pretty fast, Izu..."
Izuku nodded in confidence, "From what I understand of the match, You BOTH committed a lot of faults by attacking violently against each other while going off course, using both hands on the sabers. And it was Mystery Fencer-san who was the first to commit a fault by pushing Adrien, making him win automatically. So, Adrien had the final blow as priority..."
"..."
Sighing, the masked fencer then removed their helmet, showing her true face.
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Both Adrien and Izuku were mesmerised for a moment.
The girl then places her hand out to shake, and Adrien accepts.
Izuku could tell that the girl was upset for losing.
"Perhaps I was a bit hasty on trying to win. Thank you for being observant and honest of my faults on this fight..."
Izuku shook his head and waved his hands in front of him, "Please don't say that! A-and anyways, I don't have the final say, really! I'm not even a fencer!"
"He's right, my friend just only started today!" Adrien also interjected with a frown, "I think you touched me first, Miss. Really--"
"Please. I do not need your pities..."
Izuku felt his stomach clench and watched her walk away in self-loathing and disappointment, guilt eating at him. He even looked to Adrien, who was also looking doubtful.
"...Should I have said she won?"
Adrien looked at him, then softened as he placed a hand onto his shoulder, "You were only speaking on what you saw and told the truth. It's not your fault, Izuku."
"So..." Izuku pursed his lips, and Adrien reached to hug him, "Why do I feel like it is?"
Even with Adrien assuring him it's fine, and that even D'Argencourt said what Izuku commented was true, it didn't make Izuku feel better.
Chloe's way of cheering him up made it even worse.
"Of course Adrikins would win! He's the best fencer around, there was no way that wannabe would win against him~"
Riposte appears a few minutes later.
"YOU! YOU THINK YOU'RE SO SMART AND SAYING YOUR FRIEND WON? WELL THEN, I CHALLENGE /YOU/ TO A MATCH!"
Izuku was surprised at being challenged by the akumatized victim, even gulping when a sword was thrown at him.
"B-But I'm only a beginner!"
"Then you better BEG and declare me the winner!"
"I'll take his place and take you on!"
Both Riposte and Izuku turned to see Adrien bravely stepping forward with his saber, already getting into position.
"Your fight is with me, not him!"
"Adrien, no!" Izuku yelled before Riposte smirked and pushed Izuku out of the way.
"Fine. I wanted to have a rematch with you anyways. This time, I will crush you, Agreste!"
And Round Two commences.
Although, Adrien was doing his best to hold her off, he was losing against Riposte.
Quickly, Izuku ran towards the locker room and Tikki flew out from his bag that was hanging inside his locker.
"Oh no! Adrien is in danger!" Tikki squeaked out with worry, as Izuku punched the locker near him with angry tears.
"This is my fault! I-I should've said that the girl won instead o-or say I wasn't sure, then she wouldn't have been akumatized and Adrien wouldn't be in trouble!"
"You were only being honest, Izuku. That's just who you are," Tikki assured her holder with soft eyes, patting his cheek with her tiny nubs, "Now transform and rescue your best friend! Then we'll figure out the rest~"
"You're right. Let's save Adrien! TIKKI, SPOTS ON!"
Adrien is backed into a corner, and winces as his leg was sprained after trying to block a hard hit that almost knocked him against a wall.
Riposte almost makes the final blow.
That was surprisingly Feline Noire makes her appearance first.
"Nobody touches the model boy!"
Tirumushi blinks when he arrives at the scene, seeing...his partner actually fencing elegantly against Riposte using her staff.
"You...you fence?!" The Ladybug hero exclaimed while Feline Noire glanced over at him and grinned while winking.
"What? Did you think I didn't~? I actually learnt a few tricks from my childhood friends that do~"
Tirumushi just watched her go against Riposte with a look of amazement, but then turned away for a moment with a look of comical confusion with a hand over his chest.
'Why did my heart skip a beat just now?'
Snapping out of it, Tirumushi summons his Lucky Charm~!
He was surprised to see it was a radiator.
Frowning, he observed the fight and the looked at the lucky charm in hand, and had an idea.
"Feline! Lead Riposte this way!"
Feline Noire backs up and lets Riposte lunge at her, before Tirumushi got in between them, dropping the radiator as the sword goes through it.
"EN GARDE!"
Tirumushi yells as he kept Riposte in place since the sword is a part of her hand, then looks to Feline Noire.
"Feline! Break her sword! The akuma is in there!"
Feline Noire gives a sharp grin, making her jump with her bo-staff and makes her attack.
"ALLEZ!"
Breaking the sword, Tirumushi captures the akuma, purifies it and watches the butterfly go and Kagami turns back to normal.
Tirumushi takes a breath, before lifting his fist up to his partner, giving a smile, "Pound it?"
Feline Noire tilted her head for a moment, shrugging then nonchalantly bumping her fist back at his, "Pound it..."
He bit his lower lip before speaking quietly, "Hey...a-about last week?"
"It's okay."
This surprised Tirumushi for a moment when Feline Noire bowed her head.
"I thought about it. After facing fox-face— er, that Rossi girl? I realized that maybe I was a bit harsh on her. And, that you are right..."
Tirumushi sighed, as he then touched her arm and squeezed it, "Hey, I get it. But I'm happy you apologized. And of course I forgive you, Feline. You're my partner. It's pretty much a given that I have to make sure that we're good, even if we argue...and...you're my best friend,"
"...Cool."
Eventually once Tirumushi and Feline Noire seperate and hide away to de-transform, they come back to Adrien apologizing to Kagami.
"No," Kagami raised her hand up and shook her head, "Your friend made a good judgement call. I shouldn't have gotten so upset and cause so much trouble."
She sees Izuku and turns to him, bowing to him in respect.
"I apologize of my behavior, even if I do not recall what happened."
Izuku forgives her instantly, then suggests perhaps Kagami could come back tomorrow and have a proper re-match with Adrien.
"I think it would be best to perhaps go with the standard match rather than go off the rail," Izuku explained as he gave a small smile while both Adrien and Kagami looked sheepish themselves, "While I get that you both were over-excited, it's hard to keep up with you both since you're both so talented."
"How about we just fight for fun?" Adrien shrugged, "We're both amazingly good, and I have a feeling we'll just end up in a competitive draw each time. So, how about it?"
The girl hummed, then nodded with her own smile, "Alright. It would be...nice to make friends and get to know you both."
Izuku blinked, "Both?"
She nodded, "That includes you...um...?"
"Oh! I'm Izuku! Izuku Midoriya!"
A smile graced on the female fencer, as she nodded in kind, "Kagami Tsurugi. It's nice to meet you Midoriya-kun. If you ever need proper fencing lessons, I'd be happy to spare with you anyday~"
Adrien teases Izuku that Kagami was a possible new admirer.
But is surprised when Izuku smiles shyly with a blush.
"Actually...I-I sorta think Kagami-san is cool..."
...
Adrien resembled a Cheshire Cat at that moment, and Izuku already regrets opening his big mouth.
BONUS STUFF FOR THE DAY:
Izuku and Master Fu met each other already, mostly having a talk with one another about the responsibilities that comes with being a hero for the Miraculous and possible extra power sets. Although Izuku did ask if Master Fu knew who was the person wielding the Cat Miraculous.
"I cannot tell you."
"...Excuse me?"
Let's just say the talk went south real fast, especially when Izuku threatened to feed Tikki LARGE AMOUNTS of sweets so she goes off setting her Lucky Charm powers without him.
"You can't do that!"
"Watch me, old man. I will do it."
Master Fu makes a compromise. If Izuku accidentally finds out the identity of Feline Noire, Izuku can reveal in return who he is to her and not suffer consequences. Izuku agrees, but pouts when Master Fu points that Izuku can't go hunting down everyone that could possibly be Feline Noire by force.
"Let things happen naturally."
"....Tikki, have you ever tried The Dupain-Cheng Galette?"
Marinette is confused with Izuku ordering a dozen galettes despite not being Galette Day. But hey, perhaps her friend has a sweet tooth.
He does not. But he likes seeing Tikki happy.
That, and his petty bish ass just grins as he watches many ladybugs flying around Paris that day. Ah well, he could always clean up later after he sees Master Fu go crazy.
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TAGS: @jasmine-the-fox, @candiiee (if you like to be regularly tagged as well for the next parts, please reply below the post :D)
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generalluxun · 7 months ago
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I'm still trying to get my head around Chat Noir's complete sidelining not just in the finale, but pretty much the entirety of the show. Based on some of the tweets I've seen, Thomas Astruc is pretty hostile to the suggestion that Chat should have more of a share of the narrative.
So... why? Why make his family, his very existence, the fulcrum on which the show turns? If you want to be the show to only be about Marinette, with Adrien as a side character and "just" a love interest, then MAKE the show only about Marinette. Don't make the main plot about Adrien, and wonder why people are confused when he's not more involved in the main plot. It's such a self-inflicted wound.
Heck, the least they could have done was give Marinette SOME personal stake in her conflict with Hawkmoth, even if it's as uncomplicated as making Marinette a paragon-type superhero like Superman or Captain American who takes her duty to the people of Paris very seriously and feels deeply about the hurt Hawkmoth's is putting them through. But most of Marinette's personal conflicts are about romance or school dynamics. The closest any of her conflicts come to her actual enmity with Hawkmoth are those that deal with the stress of being a superhero/Guardian, in which Hawkmoth doesn't really feature as a person who is her mortal enemy but as an impersonal cause for the stress she's in.
While the finale tries to summon some emotional weight to Marinette's situation, the final fight, at least on Ladybug's end, feels less like the culmination of an epic rivalry and more like a contractual obligation Marinette needs to meet as Gabriel's assigned nemesis.
I mean, the unsatisfying but true answer is twofold:
1)TA never wanted Ladybug to have a partner. That was a requirement in order to get producers lined up to hand over money. It should be understood that I am NOT trashing the producers for this. It is their money. If you want to pursue your purely artistic goal then you secure other funding or self fund. If you want to get something MADE then you have to make what people want to pay to have made. A portion of the friction here comes from the fact that I don't think TA ever stopped fighting for his original version of the show, and that version conflicts directly with the version he was paid to write for.
2)In the context of the above- Adrien is a TROPHY. Gabriel is the DRAGON, and his home life is the TOWER that the KNIGHT Marinette must rescue him from. If Adrien were a side-character he wouldn't be much of a trophy, investment wise. Is it good to make a character purely a trophy? No. It's not good when it is done ot female characters, it's not good when it's done to male ones either. (Or intersex, enby, nongendered, etc) We've moved past the kind of storytelling TA is selling in his vision of ML. It feels like something out of the early 00's, which when you consider where he started his work, makes a lot of sense.
Should they have connected Marinette to Gabriel more? Absolutely! They both do fashion! SHE could have had an internship right along with Lila. Can you imagine the rivalry there? Can you imagine the conflicts with Gabriel?
At the VERY least they should have let Marinette actually track down abriel. Let her put all her planning and analysis to good use! Instead they just had Felix do it all and then some blind luck at the end. That's LAME, that's cheating Marinette out of a well deserved culmination story beat.
Punching has never been what Ladybug was about, so a final fight could never be a satisfying climax no matter how 'epic' it was.
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princess-of-the-corner · 2 months ago
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As a Batman liker (both fanfic and actual comics) I do think it's pretty unfair that ML is the only cast getting salted here. Like. Imagine it in reverse.
There's a trend of woobifying Tim thanks to some misunderstood fandom-telephone garbled events in the Red Robin arc, so a reverse ML-Bat saltfic would probably involve Tim fucking off to Paris for something. If we wanna get really salty and have the equivalent of "Bustier lost a student in Gotham," then Tim is hunting assassins/being hunted with no supervision and without telling anyone, so he has no backup. If we're being a little more tame, he just followed a lead there.
He swoops in and saves the ML crew from something terrible, but his overexaggerated self-destructive borderline suicidal tendencies means he gets seriously injured in the process. Ladybug didn't have time to summon a lucky charm to fix it, so now the ML cast adopts him and puts him on bedrest.
They learn about all the Oh-So-Concerning things he's been through where we learn that Damian is a unredeemable hellspawn bent on murder, Stephanie is an abusive and uncaring ex, Dick is a bitch who doesn't appreciate or understand Tim, Jason is. . .still regular pre-flashpoint Jason, meaning he's actually a full-scale villain, and Bruce was dead but now he isn't but he doesn't care about Tim and only treats him as a tool.
The crew offers Tim a miraculous (probably a bat one, but maybe a robin one) and does the thing that usually happens to Jason in fanfic where they latch onto him as "cool older brother mentor who we have to bully into self care" so hard that Tim improves for their sake if not for his.
Bruce and co. show up at some point to be all "We need you Tim, how could you just abandon your responsibility Tim, we can't believe your being so selfish Tim," and there's a speech about how awful they all are and how Tim has truly Found His Place in Paris and that he has a new calling training these guys and that he was never appreciated anyway yadda yadda yadda. Then the Miraculous people kick them out of France.
Tim probably gets adopted by the Dupain-Chengs, but depending on the fic writers and how sympathetic they wanna make Gabriel, he might go there instead.
Now imagine there are like. Enough of these that "Tim Drake & Marinette Dupain-Cheng" is a more popular tag than people Tim actually talks to, like Young Justice or his civilian friends (I'd say Huntress but I think Tim and Marinette already outnumbers her because Helena's criminally underrated).
The TBAB version of this is Tim, Steph, and Cass (and maybe Duke) all take a little crime fighting field trip to Paris and learn about the shitsack situation there.
Steph, Adrien, and Chloe bond so hard that everyone's lives are in danger. They were last seen with as many chocolate bars as the combined credit cards of Bruce, Audrey, Andre, and Gabe can buy, handing them out for free in exchange for standing in this very specific spot for a few hours (By the time they are done, there will be a blockade surrounding agreste manor and the hotel and it will not be moved until some shitty parents give into demands).
Tim solves the Hawkmoth crisis in 2 minutes and yoinks Lila (and maybe Felix) for his "morally questionable competent individuals that I'm blackmailing/bribing/threatening into working for me" crowd, and Alya and Nino force Tim and Steph to have A Conversation about their emotionally fraught relationship.
Kagami and Cass get in a one-on-one fight (that Cass wins of course but she's impressed by Kagami's skills and takes her on as a protege). Cass also offhandedly beat Nora in 2 seconds and spends the rest of the fic getting pestered by Nora, who wants Cass to join her wrestling team.
Duke finally gets to talk about obscure pop-culture shit that none of the buck-wild-backstory bat crowd ever got to understand, and he and Nino bond over their shared hatred of brainwashed clowns. He insists on helping the cast start a We Are Robin Paris chapter.
As is on-brand for these 4, by the time they think to call anyone about where they are and what they're doing, they've got a brand new international team of 20+ magical girls for the ever extending Titans roster and have also put at least 3 shitty adults behind bars, probably more. Bruce is crying in a corner about his inability to control his horde of children, Dick and Babs are too busy laughing at Bruce to be worried, and Jason and Damian are offended about not getting invited.
Honestly I feel like my favorite options are no salt. Yes character flaws, but not salt.
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jennrypan · 4 months ago
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Rewatching season 5 starts now.
Annd all of Paris chants for Ladybug and thats it. Par for the course.
This should've been the moment she realized..maybe she should know Chats identity..or something. And Felix really..didnt see any repercussions for giving the miraculous to Hawkmoth like..at all. Magical slavery is crazy. Like-- why do humans have such command over literal godlike beings and no ones thought to..idk free them so they cant be controlled by evil people so easily. Just a thought.
Ah this is when Natalie realizes hes off his rocker. "The most powerful one" SO WHY ARE TIKKI AND PLAGG THE YIN AND YANG!!! LIKE. Dont say two miraculous are the strongest and then bring in time travel, time reverse shit and the ability to create any super hero ever. Cmon.
..anyways-- Gabriel runs like a bitch. An ugly bitch- also lmao his unimpressed face as Alix explained. DONT GIVE HIM EXPLANATIONS JUST TAKE THE MIRACULOUS. And awe she let him unify (this only ever happens once 💀)
Gabriels such a LOSER. They shoulda beat his ass right then and there lmao, anyway- ha. ( adriens so adorable-- )
I wouldve loved to see more Chat unifications. Awe Alix is precious. Its just fascinating that this happened..cuz of Felix..and no one punches him in the throat. Anyways-- I see why Natalie lost her love for him, hes such a loser. (Also..ew. Emilie looks like a praying mantis 😭)
And wow. He was right there..right THERE- bitch. And we're suppose to think he loved her and deserved to be with her in the after life? Go to HELL-
..Hes so STUPID. God-- also Natalie you are soo right for that. And lord Lilas evil looking ass-- get out- anyways I forgot what happened in this season fr. Also..Su Han is so..ugly. This animation does NOT work for adults. Ew.
Anyways..you couldve helped at any time you old bitch. Butcha didnt so now . HERE WE ARE. Also ..he caved real fast that was..something for sure. "I got distracted by expensive shoes and gadgets" ..really. And you were one of the guardians?? Seriously. Where do they find these losers??? Him and Master Fu are useless.
"I didnt worry though cuz I thought he mightve gone to find his cousin in paris" So..your son just..goes to Paris without you asking?? And you think him and Adrien get along?? Bitch you and your entire family must run on negligence apparently. Jesus christ.
..oh right she was lying for her little shit son. Fascinating. No wonder Felixs thinks he can do whatever the hell he wants. Jfc. Adrien shouldve stayed PISSED with Felix. Like-- god.
Anyways..Gabriel definitely wasnt listening-- love that..anyways.. "maybe i dont even know him" You might be on to something actually. Cuz ya dont. But anyways. Marinette kept to the conclusion her love is blind..she KNOWS shes a mess.
And yet..in season 6 shes back to knowing nothing. "Marinette youre back!" ...adorable lmao-- also heart to heart is..a stretch. I love that Natalie cares about Adrien so much which..makes the decision in the season finale so. Upsetting--
Ew Lila. Anyways I forgot the season is just a rehash of old akumas and other nonsense. Also Adrien said he didnt wanna be a model so he decided to just..use his face and likeness instead. Crazy but not surprising.
Also Felix is such a pompous ass GOD. I cant stand him or his mom. Shes literally "My son would never do something like that! Hes perfect" type of mom. "I am much more than that"...and we're expected to think he cares about other sentis??? (Wait..he does unless its Adrien ig )
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gryficowa · 2 years ago
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Something pisses me off that people in the fandom reduce all the criticism of the episode with Marinette's trauma to the fact that people in the fandom are stupid or love Chloe too much and hate Marinette
No, people don't like this episode because it has no respect for the viewer and it has many problems that are revealed later in the same season, on top of that, I question whether Adrien's trauma was addressed at all in a respectful way, or whether they justified everything by that he is a senti monster? Exactly
By the way, defenders of this episode, I hope you were going after Felix like you were going after Chloe? Oh no, wait, he was a victim of domestic violence and he was rich, so like Chloe, but he was a boy, so his trauma is more important
But coming back, this episode with Marinette's trauma is problematic on many levels, mainly because it fucks with the logic even more than in the first season when in the episode "Origins" when they rescued Chloe, and then in "Lady Wi-Fi", the chat noir suspects that Chloe it's a ladybug and don't ask about logic, because there is none
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Not only does Kim and Chloe make so much sense that Chat Noir from the episode "Lady Wi-Fi" could give a high five on this topic, but calling it "Feature Sharpening" is an understatement, it's more like Thomas had too much to drink before writing the entire script for the episode, and like a typical kid, he created the episode like one of the "Scooby-Doo" movies, where Scrappy-Doo was an out-of-character character in order to be antagonized (Because the fandom didn't like him, so it's better to kill off the whole character this way)
What's the best way to end the story of a father who abuses his child? Give him a statue, the fandom will 100% love it
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Seriously, Thomas, we all know you didn't write this episode for traumatized people, but just to go the way people did to kill Scrappy-Doo, which was to kill Chloe herself so that the fandom would hate her and Kim in the process suffered, because why not?
And by the way, to explain your imaginary daughter with your ex…
The standards of this series also contributed to the reception of this episode, and I would also like to remind you that Zag wanted redemption for Chloe, but Thomas himself did not want it, so when Zag left to create the film, Thomas went to destroy the whole Chloe, because like a child he cannot reconcile with this, that a fictional character can have any development and tried his hardest to kill Chloe like a Scappy-Doo movie, seriously Thomas, I understand a lot, but as a creator you should use it to your advantage and not kill her off because you hate your character so much (Like a child what creates illustrations of cartoon characters dying because he hates them)
Seriously, this show has 00's to 2010 vibes, but today? Such productions are more annoying than entertaining (And I say this as a 01-year-old)
This writing by Chloe and Kim seriously has Scrappy-Doo movie vibes to me
So the episode with Marinette's trauma is even more irritating, because anyone sensitive will notice what Thomas did here and it is a seriously conscious murder of his characters.
The context of this episode makes you feel offended rather than understood by the creator, because it's not about empathy towards people with trauma like Marinette, but about killing off the characters of Chloe and Kim
No matter how much I love the trope of the main character who, over time, turns out to have a trauma that the viewer doesn't know about, this show fucked it up and resulted in a not-so-good taste
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It's just the context of this episode that causes it, I'm seriously sensitive to this way of writing and it has irritated me since I was a child, I was hoping that the newer the cartoons, the more it would disappear, but then Thomas appeared and did my hated trope, but turned it up to the max
Sometimes I wonder why many great creators get as few seasons as possible, while Thomas gets more
Because no matter how much I liked this show, after Chloe's arc fell apart and the writing fell apart because killing Chloe is more important than everything else in this show, it made me fed up
And because of creators like Thomas, many people consider animations as worthless and only entertainment for small children, because Thomas' writing style is effortless (And even productions for preschoolers can handle it, yes, I'm talking about "Bluey"), just as little as possible, and the fact that the fandom swallows everything has a simple task in this topic
Thomas had a good idea, but Miracolous's greatest enemy was Thomas himself
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Damn, it's hard for me to come back to the series, but "Ladybug PV" is awesome, so Thomas himself has gone backwards in the development of his work, literally.
Ok, Felix was still problematic (It was chat noir back then, for those who don't know the history of the miracolous creation process)
But if Thomas could develop the character… Oh no, wait, he can't, that's why Felix became Adrien
By the way, Mr. Pigeon and the mime from the first season appeared in this version, just an interesting fact
I also have the impression that the characters had a better design than in the current series
There was another 3D version, which also looked amazing, so the version we got is the worst and this thought kills me, because this series could have been something more, but Thomas himself killed it, i.e. the creator killed his creation before showing it in its entirety to the world (Congratulations, Thomas)
Yes, I had to let go of all my frustration with the show and the fandom, because it's fucked up that when you criticize the bad writing of Marinette's trauma, people come up with their theories on why you do it, not why you do it and why you don't like it
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miraculouslbcnreactions · 1 year ago
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Let's say you have complete creative control.
How would you write a Marinette (non-Akuma/Amok) corruption arc?
If I had complete creative control, I wouldn't do a corruption arc for Marinette, I'd do one for Gabriel. But I'm assuming you want me to pretend I would do one for Marinette, so I will because why not? How I'd do it would depend heavily on when the writing team gave up and shoved the story into my hands. For the purposes of this hypothetical, I'm going to have to lean into the bad writing, so read on at your own risk.
Current state: as of the end of season five, Marinette seemingly knows that Adrien is a sentimonster. Marinette also has anxiety issues and there's a new butterfly villain on the loose whose knowledge regarding Adrien and connection to Gabriel are unknown. We also have Felix's previous less-than-heroic actions and Nathalie's status as Gabriel's former right hand lady. With all these less-than-awesome people out there, fully aware of Adrien's vulnerability, we have a pretty fantastic setup for an arc where Marinette gets ever more paranoid and controlling in the name of keeping Adrien safe from this new villain. Basically have her spiral into Gabriel 2.0 where her love for Adrien is used to justify terrible things. Not a setup I'd want to watch, but it does fit the show's treatment of The Power of Love so, you know, do with that what you will.
Season three up to near the end of season five: Something to do with Lila making Marinette lose all faith in her friends because, if you're going to write them as terrible friends, you may as well own it. Have Marinette feel like she's sacrificing everything for people who treat her like a villain or a child in spite of all she does, so she decides why bother to be the good guy? Why make all these sacrifices when it never works out for her? I'd probably have her stop showing up to fights like Chat Noir did in Kuro Neko, only if Ladybug did that it would be a much bigger deal. You could even have her full out quit and give Chat Noir her miraculous and the miracle box as a bit of a "fine, you do it and see if you can do it better" thing. Basically anything that lets her go fully selfish due to pressure and poor treatment since it's really not fair that Adrien's the only one who's allowed to miss battles and give up his miraculous when he doesn't feel appreciated.
A variation on this could be quitting because of something like her friends are putting too much pressure on her re:Adrien combined with the show's love of never letting her make the right call when it really matters, so she snaps from all this pressure on every side.
Pre season three: I don't think there's really a great lead up to a corruption in the earlier seasons. Things were pretty great back then. Idk, maybe have her snap from frustration with Chat Noir never taking things seriously, so she starts mimicking him, leading to people getting hurt? (Reminder, I think this is a writing issue when it comes to Chat Noir, but it's there and I said we were going to lean into canon's bad writing for this so here we are.)
And there you go! My takes on evil!Marinette. As I said at the start, I'm not interested in writing any of these. While I do think canon has the setup for them, they rely too heavily on things canon should never have done. Things that don't fit my image of Marinette's core character.
I'm also not big on corruption arcs for heroes. For me, they fall under the same category as the broken partnership/team trope: interesting concept, but one that's rarely executed in a satisfying way. They also tend to be too depressing and/or tragic for my tastes.
My two major hobbies are writing/reading fiction and studying world history/cultures. World history isn't all doom and gloom, but there's a lot of harsh, tragic, and sad things to be found in the past. As such, I've never really enjoyed fictional stories with a hopeless feeling to them. I turn to fictional worlds to escape reality. To go to places full of satisfying endings that are, at worst, bittersweet. If I'm reading a tragedy, I want something that's all or mostly historical fact. Not a matter of judgment, just one of personal preference.
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ilikekidsshows · 5 months ago
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I dislike how Adrien's character is just a massive macguffin at this point. If he isn't going to do stuff himself, or even get scenes that don't involve Marinette, why would you make him the male lead and everything in the Miraculous world connect back to him???
Wanna why know why Gabriel's Hawkmoth? Emily's death! But well actually, she only died because of Adrien. Why's Lila a villain? Well, she had a spat with Marinette! Over what, you ask? Adrien. Ah yes, Felix, our dear fandom's most inconsistent character like seriously why the hell did he go from being angry his cousin didn't attend his dads funeral and calling love confessions sappy to being glad his dad is dead and randomly breaking into song resident jerk, he actually does stuff for change!! Why's he here? Well, actually he's Adrien's cousin
But, does Adrien actually do anything with this (I'd say information after this but lets be real, he has none)? Nope, sir/ma'am, nothing at all!! He never learns his father is Hawkmoth and his father never learns he's Chat Noir. Jury's out on Lila but so far, hd does absolutely nothing at all.
Well, what about Felix? You'd think that, with a character so intertwined with him, they'd actually do something with it? Give them a few scenes? Maybe actually have Adrien talk or maybe even punch some sense into his cousin for vanishing the entire world besides like three people? Give the duo some scenes? Actually address what Felix did after his introduction? Show Felix breaking him and Kagami out of Gabriel's white rooms? Nope, lets just shove Felix to the side with Kagami, and forget about him unless we have an episode which requires a jerk character, since literally none of the good guys fit that role!!
Honestly, even leaving aside the stuff abiut wasted character moments, it feels like Adrien's been relegated to like the third or fourth most important character in the show. Marinette and Alya are wayyy above him at this point. Lila can take another spot albeit hesitantly since she clearly has more focus and plot relevance than him.
Marinette didn't even give Chat Noir a kwatagama to remember her by (if Alya can have one, so can he, he was Mister Bug, remember?). He doesn't even know about the Alya is the next Guardian stuff. Literally no one does. If Marinette does have something happen to her and she gives up the guardianship, why would anyone even listen to Alya!?!? Chat Noir outranks her by seniority alone, Carapace isn't even that close behind in terms of that and most importantly, she's never led them, she's never made battle plans, she hasn't been there from the start like Chat Noir, not everyone's fought with her probably, and they've never been made aware of this little back-up plan. Who's to say she isn't a Miraculous thief, huh? What if she stole the box and killed Ladybug? They have nothing to go off of except her word.
The writers probably don't even know how to use Adrien now that the crush arc of the show is over. Everyone's saying that he's obviously getting a big build-up, but what if they just "Catwalker" this and make it so that this is all "resolved" in a single episode and they all go back to the status quo with the slight change with the slight change that everyone is more subservient to Marinette and now recognises her brilliance or whatever.
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Some people still believe Miraculous has proper build up and payoff, huh? I’m not surprised yet I’m still disappointed at how helplessly naive this fandom is.
Like, I was trying to figure out how to properly showcase what I think is wrong with Adrien’s character, why I think he’s less of a character than ever before, even when he gets a whole episode revolving around his family. So, here’s the Animus Litmus Test of Is The Love Interest a Real Person
Does the character have an actual conversation (aka, the speaker is changed at least twice) with someone other than their significant other?
Is this conversation about something other than their significant other?
Does this conversation take place in a scene that doesn’t feature the significant other at any point?
Does the character have any goal outside of “be with the significant other”?
Like, supposedly Adrien should have a conversation in 'Werepapas' with someone other than Marinette about something other than how much he wants to stay with Marinette, but, like, this is the episode that teased the audience with Plagg getting to show up, only to not just exclude Plagg, but to exclude Adrien himself from the Akuma fight so that he can be shoved inside a literal trophy while Marinette plays with his life like an object.
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immaturityofthomasastruc · 2 years ago
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IOTA Reviews: Pretension
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Oh joy, another Felix episode. Because the last one was just so good, wasn't it?
Let's get into the nineteenth episode of Miraculous Ladybug's fifth season: Pretension
We start off with Kagami and Adrien heading to school, with the former making plans with Marinette to spend a little time together, all while Argos stalks them. We then cut to Gabriel, who's attempting to heal his Cataclysm wound with a machine that drains the energy from his imprisoned Kwamis. It fails because... uh... uhhhh... it just doesn't?
Kaalki: I told you. No magic can heal this wound.
Barkk: A Cat Noir Cataclysm can't be healed!
Yeah, they just say nothing can heal the wound, and don't even mention the fact that we've already seen the Ladybug Miraculous heal Adren when he was wounded by his own Cataclysm in “Miraculer”. And before you say it was a weaker version of the attack, check out what Astruc said a few years ago when the subject was brought up.
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Whether you want to take this as fact or not since it wasn't explained in the show itself, the point is that we've seen Ladybug heal someone who was wounded by Cataclysm before. Then again, considering the recent reveal, that episode only opens up another can of worms.
Back at school, Marinette talks with Adrien and Kagami about how Gabriel only sees her as some crazy fan, though she doesn't do a lot to help her case.
Tomoe arrives, and just like she's done this whole season, is only here to provide exposition while nagging Gabriel to get Ladybug and Cat Noir's Miraculous already. Gabriel comes up with a plan involving a gadget Felix accidentally dropped at the end of the last season. If you forgot, I understand, since it's a pretty weird thing to call back to.
Marinette: He feels worried and I would be too if I were him. He thinks I'm one of those fans who follows you everywhere, showers you with hand-knitted gifts and knows every single one of your middle name days.
Kagami: Isn't that what you used to do, Marinette?
Marinette: Yes... except no! I mean, yes, but I was doing it out of love and, besides, I've changed a lot.
Kagami: You are correct.
Marinette: Really? You think I've changed a lot?
Kagami: No. Well, not that much.
I love when even the show points out how little character development there is. Makes my job a lot easier.
Adrien goes with Marinette to talk to Gabriel about their relationship. We get a pretty somewhat chilling moment where Gabriel's kind father facade briefly fades as he orders Adrien to go to his room so he and Marinette can talk, all while he still puts on a welcoming image. After Plagg reminds Adrien that all Gabriel knows how to cook is pancakes, Gabriel then lectures Marinette about why he doesn't want her to see Adrien.
Gabriel: I don't think you understand, child, so let me put things differently. Life is like fashion. You think you have a choice, but all you have is the illusion of choice. And I decide what choices are given to you.
Marinette: You're wrong! (Shows Gabriel her sketchbook with her designs) Fashion is about listening to people, it's about understanding who they are, what excites them and creating the clothes that will help them express their inner world. Help them connect with others and make their dreams come true.
Gabriel: (Laughs and looks over Marinette's sketchbook) No, that's not fashion. That's making dresses for your dolls. Fashion is a product, a marketing strategy, an industry that relies on uninterrupted trend renewal that forces you to either throw away everything you have and buy more or, worse, to be out of fashion.
That bastard! I can't believe Gabriel wants to make an honest living by using market research data to his advantage! What a piece of scum...
I joke, but the rest of Gabriel's little rant is even worse, as he acts as if he decides what people like and don't like, even though he just mentioned the importance of keeping up with current trends. Seriously, this dude's talking as if the entire world revolves around his brand.
Gabriel: Thanks to the clothes I create, the celebrities who wear them, the advertisements I design and the Alliance rings that broadcast them, I create an idyllic vision. A perfection that everyone aspires to achieve, while keeping it just out of their grasp. You finally understand the difference, don't you? You listen to people's desires and create what they want. Somehow, people make you. Whereas I create people's desires. They buy what I decide to buy. They think what I want them to think. I'm the one who makes people. You think you love Adrien, but you're just under the spell of this world I've created. A world where Adrien is the star, shining high above. A world where you're just part of the crowd below looking up at him.
Let's see... a complete narcissist with an obsession with controlling others, puts on a facade to make himself look more approachable, uses his influence to sell something to the masses that are part of his greater operation, and acts as if his products are necessary for society to function when they're more of a luxury than anything else? Where have I seen this before?
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Marinette goes against Gabriel's wishes and tells Adrien she loves him before rightfully telling him to piss off... through a pancake metaphor, for some reason.
Marinette: You know what the problem is with your pancakes? Way too much flour, not enough butter. You're using an old, completely outdated recipe. No one likes them like that anymore. And that's the good thing about being a baker's daughter. I don't even need to try them to know that they're tasteless.
You know, I could make so many jokes about the state of the show with this little speech, but I feel like it'd be too easy.
Meanwhile, Kagami tries to tell her mother that she's not interested in Adrien anymore, but we get the same crap Tomoe has been saying ever since Season 3. “You must follow our family legacy, Kagami!”, “Stop letting your emotions control you, Kagami!”, “I'm only blind for a cheap visual metaphor, Kagami!”, yadda, yadda, yadda. During this, Argos overhears this and outright kidnaps Kagami. Rather than call the police to report a kidnapping, Tomoe calls Gabriel, who had transformed into Monarch offscreen, and tells him to akumatize him (even though she's still carrying her useless Magical Charm), which he does, turning her into Matagi Gozen.
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Matagi Gozen is basically Ikari Gozen, only instead of a centaur, she now rides a robot dog for some reason and has a bow and arrow now. Her powers are basically related to her size and riding a robot dog, mostly so we can focus on her Miraculous powers for the day. Even though Tomoe was seen wearing six Alliance rings before she called Gabriel, she only gets three powers, the Bee Miraculous' Venom, the Rooster Miraculous' Sublimation (which she uses to give herself an enhanced sense of smell), and the Mouse Miraculous' Multitude. It's really just the same setup we got in “Multiplication” with a few changes, and it's nothing special. Although, it's too bad that Monarch doesn't have the Dog Miraculous, as that would have really gone well with her powers.
As the four Matagi Gozen clones go on the hunt, Argos takes Kagami to the Eiffel Tower to hide out, where we get—wait, it's, it's, BY GOD, IT'S KAGAMI WITH A WOODEN CHAIR!
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Argos transforms back into Felix, and unintentionally throws Matagi Gozen off the trail since she was tracking him through one of the feathers on his fan. It turns out that after that single conversation they shared last episode, Felix is suddenly developing feelings for Kagami, and the whole reason he kidnapped her, aside from “protecting her from her mother”, is to get to talk to her again.
Felix: We have so much in common, and yet, you're also so different. I've never met someone like you.
Kagami: We don't even know each other!
Felix: I know you. I've been following you non-stop.
Kagami: Even better! You follow me, you spy on me and now you've kidnapped me to get to know me?!
Felix: Uh... yes?
Kagami: You are utterly incompetent at social relations.
See? Felix isn't a sociopath who just tried to wipe out all of humanity last episode! He just needs to make friends, that's all.
Yeah, in case you can't tell, it seems like the show is still trying to course correct the characterization of Felix. Rather than the overconfident and manipulative wild card he was for his last five appearances, the episode is now trying to make Felix out to be a secretly awkward person with noble goals. Afterall, he saved Kagami, so by that logic, he has to be a good guy. Yeah, he technically stalked her like a creep, but it ended up being good in the end, didn't it?
After Marinette and Adrien transform into Ladybug and Cat Noir respectively, the Matagi Gozen clones start to track Felix through the scent of the aforementioned gadget. Right as Matagi Gozen finds Felix, Ladybug and Cat Noir arrive on the scene, giving Felix the chance to transform into Argos and escape with Kagami again.
Matagi Gozen: This is what heroes do? Not only did you help that monster escape, but now you're going to fight me? A mother trying to save her daughter?
Cat Noir: Hey, my lady. When you think about it, they're not wrong. We all want the same thing. If we let them save Kagami, we could seize the opportunity to get Felix's Miraculous back.
Ladybug: Too risky. They're under Monarch's influence.
Yeah, but you can't even try to negotiate a temporary alliance between Matagi Gozen? Yes, we know that she's working for Monarch, but the heroes don't know that. All we get is Ladybug asking Matagi Gozen to reject the Megakuma, and she goes back to fighting them. How interesting would it have been for Ladybug and Cat Noir to make an uneasy alliance with someone they don't know is working for Monarch?
After Cat Noir gets ignored during one of the few times he makes a decent point, he escapes to the sewer and detransforms, Matagi Gozen losing their scent trail. Matagi Gozen goes back to looking for Kagami, and decides to shoot her with some arrows tipped with Venom. Argos defends Kagami, and breaks up his fan to throw the pieces around and create multiple fake scent trails to throw off Matagi Gozen before detransforming. How Argos even came came up with this plan when I don't think he figured out Matagi Gozen could smell really good is anyone's guess.
As Kagami and Felix keep running away, Kagami asks the question I'm sure you've all been thinking.
Kagami: I don't understand. You have the Miraculous of the peacock, why don't you create a Sentimonster to get us out of here?
Felix: First of all, don't call them that.
Fine, “walking sin against nature” it is. Got anything else to say there, buddy? Maybe anything that isn't a half-assed speech meant to make the audience sympathize with you?
Felix: I refuse to create a being to manipulate them, control them, abuse them, and end up destroying them. When you bring a living being into this world, you have a responsibility towards them. Your duty is to protect them, love them, help them discover the true meaning of their existence. To deprive them of that... is monstrous.
Kagami: Are you talking about... yourself?
Felix: I'm talking about... us.
Come on dude! I said anything that isn't a half-assed speech meant to make the audience sympathize with you!
Okay, I've been putting this off long enough. Let's talk about Felix's ideology, his little speech, and, how it contradicts his previous appearances.
First off, for someone who refuses to create a Sentimonster to control and abuse, Felix had no trouble screwing around with Adrien in his first episode when his main goal was to get one of the rings from Gabriel. Hell, it makes even less sense why he'd keep that ring that we know can be used to control Adrien if his plan ultimately amounted to trading it away along with the fifteen Miraculous in Ladybug's possession.
Second, Felix literally created a Sentimonster to destroy humanity with just last episode, and he doesn't even mention that. Yeah, you can chalk it up to character development, but we don't even get a line about learning about the burden of ending a life you yourself created. It just feels like a way to make him seem more sympathetic after he went all “I'M THE GOD! I'M THE GOD!” last episode.
Third, and I'm just going to be honest about this, but why should I care about the life of a Sentimonster when the show has shown it doesn't care either? Ever since the end of Season 2, we've seen Sentimonsters be summoned and erased from existence left and right, and other than a single occasion (Ladybug), nobody has really brought up the fact that Sentimonsters are living beings too. Even putting that aside, most of the Sentimonsters we've seen have either been giant monsters, clones of other people, or mindless tools, none of which showed any desire to be alive other than to serve their purpose. It's only because Adrien, Felix, and now Kagami are revealed to be Sentimonsters that we should care about the ethics of summoning a Sentimonster in battle. Even in the last episode, Felix never brought up than Ladybug is essentially taking innocent lives whenever she de-evilizes an Amok.
And finally, the fact that this speech was used to set up a romance between Felix and Kagami, not because he saw a kindred spirit in her, but rather, because he believes that she's a Sentimonster too. You know that episode of South Park where Cartman tried to set up Token with a new girl, where the entire joke was that it was because Cartman believed that black people can only date other black people? This is basically that story with none of the irony. The episode seriously treats Felix taking an interest in Kagami specifically on the basis that she may be the same kind of artificial creation as him, as if he isn't capable of relating to anyone who also has to deal with abusive parents and isn't a Sentimonster. On a completely unrelated note, isn't it funny how out of the four rich kids with abusive or neglectful parents, Chloe is the only one who isn't a Sentimonster and is the least sympathetic?
Ladybug (having gotten a pair of scissors from activating her Lucky Charm offscreen) and Cat Noir try to stop Felix, but after a single speech from him, Kagami is now completely on his side for some reason.
Kagami: Felix is not your enemy! He's like me! He doesn't know how to express himself. Everyone is wrong about him! Including me.
Funny, I don't seem to remember you dooming all of Paris by giving over a dozen magical artifacts to a supervillain. Also, speaking from someone who struggles to socialize in real life, I can confirm that social awkwardness isn't really an excuse to kidnap someone. Just remember what happened in Misery.
Ladybug realizes that Felix and Kagami are vital to her Lucky Charm working, she decides to trust Felix. Felix then transforms into Argos and immediately escapes without contributing to the plan, while Kagami uses the scissors to cut the string of Matagi Gozen's bow after Ladybug and Cat Noir restrain the Akuma.
Ladybug then de-evilizes the Megakuma, uses Miraculous Ladybug to fix the damage caused by the fight, gives Tomoe yet another useless Magical Charm after the last useless one broke because it was completely useless, and Argos once got away without facing any consequences for his actions.
Afterwards, Kagami tries to stand up to Tomoe, but she orders her to hand over her ring containing her Amok—I mean, her ring that has absolutely no control over her, and is part of this thrilling mystery. Adrien also tries to stand up for Marinette, and Gabriel tells him to enjoy her time with Marinette... before saying he's moving to London next year. This is supposed to be a dick move, but with how often Adrien gets caught in the crossfire of Akuma attacks, with or without the mask, this is arguably the smartest thing Gabriel has done for the past five seasons. Adrien chooses not to tell Marinette about London, because I guess all that whining about hating secrets only mattered when someone else was withholding information from him.
The episode ends with Felix revealing that the ring Kagami gave her mother was a fake. Of course, this makes no sense because not only did we never see Felix steal the ring from Kagami, but Tomoe has a mental connection to Kagami, she should notice the ring is a fake. Also, you know how Kagami's arc so far has been a mixture of finding independence from her controlling mother while coming to terms with her breakup with Adrien? Get ready for all of that to be thrown out the window, because the writers are desperate to make him look good, Felix is now the one to save her from her mother and give her independence back, while also hinting at a relationship starting between the two. I'd say this episode fumbled the landing, but I haven't even gotten to the season finale yet.
This episode started out pretty poorly, and quickly went downhill afterwards. The idea of explaining why Gabriel's Cataclysm wound can't be healed was convoluted, Felix continues to be unlikable, Tomoe once again shows how terrible of an antagonist she is.
I'll admit, the chemistry between Marinette and Adrien was decent, but it's far too late to really establish a proper rivalry between her and Gabriel more than halfway through the fifth season, especially while discussing fashion when it's only been used to justify plots where she tries to make stuff for Adrien. The writers had plenty of time, yet rather than build up tension between the main hero and main villain, they decided we needed more episodes revolving around Chloe, Lila, and Felix.
Speaking of, Felix once again shows how poorly written he is. He was the one to instigate the conflict, it wasn't established if he even had a plan on what to do once he gets away with Kagami, and if anything, only made things worse because of his refusal to surrender, much less acknowledge his fault in this situation when the Akuma chasing after him is only as powerful as she is now because he gave his evil uncle multiple Miraculous to use for his Akumas. But no, he has to be the one to wreck Kagami's character arc and be the one to try and liberate her from Tomoe's influence because he's a good guy now! It says a lot when Cat Noir is the only one who still isn't trusting Felix at this point.
While it's nowhere near as bad as “Emotion”, this was still a really bad episode to follow up on.
THE BIGGEST IDIOT OF THE EPISODE IS...TOMOE
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While Felix came dangerously close to winning the award, he at least showed more restraint here, and was able to throw off both Matagi Gozen a few times. Tomoe, on the other hand, got nothing to show any real intelligence, and if anything, proved she was just as incompetent as Gabriel is. She chose to nag Gabriel while he was suffering from the effects of his fatal wound, decided to akumatize herself instead of even considering contacting the cops to stop a single kidnapping, while ironically drawing more attention to herself in her attempt to save Kagami and stop Felix, decided to try shooting her daughter instead of the one who abducted her, and didn't even realize the ring capable of controlling her daughter was replaced by a fake when she should obviously be able to sense something.
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kimm4710 · 2 months ago
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MIRACULOUS RP (OCxCC ONLY DOUBLES WELCOMED)
All participants and characters must be 18+
Felix players get priority!
Hey there! I’m Kim, a passionate RPer who’s totally obsessed with Miraculous Ladybug (seriously, it might be unhealthy at this point). I write in third person and consider myself semi-literate—expect 2 to 4 paragraphs per character, and please no one-liners. I’m fairly active, though life can get hectic, but I’ll always do my best to communicate if something comes up.
Now for the fun part!
I’ve been dying to dive into a Miraculous RP, where all the characters are maybe in college and navigating a more grown up world. I’d love for my OC to be paired with Felix—my ultimate bad guy. He’s clever, smug, snarky, and dangerously charming. The perfect foil to Adrien’s sweet, soft demeanor. If you know the show, you know exactly the kind of chaos and chemistry Felix brings—and I’m here for it!
I’m a huge fan of tropes like:
• Enemies to lovers
• Forbidden romance
• Best friends to lovers
• Anything with emotional tension and payoff
• Superhero drama with heart and angst
I do not do slow burn romances. I love chemistry, connection, and development, but I prefer relationships that build up with momentum—so if you’re into drawn-out slow burns, this may not be the right fit.
I’m totally open to doubling and would be more than happy to play your favorite canon character in return. I also adore building friendships with RP partners—sharing headcanons, creating playlists, swapping aesthetic Pinterest boards, and just gushing over our ships!
Requirements:
• All characters must be 18+
• NO one-liners
• Must be open to OOC chats and world-building
• Please communicate if you’re busy or need a break—I’ll always do the same!
• RP happens exclusively on Discord
Let me know you’re interested in Miraculous specifically (not just “I saw your ad”) Thanks for reading! If this sounds like your jam, message me with the word Miraculous so I know you read everything
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san-fics · 8 months ago
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Day 16. Drive Me Nuts
Felinette November 2024
(upcoming on Ao3, published on Patreon)
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[Song-fic, ‘Crazy’ by Aerosmith]
“Felix, I need you,” the woman said, still seriously, almost sternly, not at all how he wanted these words to come from her lips. But his traitorous heart melted hearing them all the same…
Marinette came closer and stood very, very close to him, between Felix and his desk, her gaze fixed on the pavilion blueprint. “Oh, that's exactly what I wanted to talk to you about,” she said, turning her back to him completely to point her finger somewhere on the building plan. “Right here, see? Where we have planned an area for showing new models…”
By this point, Felix’s brain had already begun to shut down, because it clearly didn’t have enough blood to function—all of it going down to where his body was closest to the tempting roundnesses of Marinette's butt, covered with a thin, tight fabric. In fact, some parts of Felix's body were now in extremely dangerous proximity to those very roundnesses, and he, of course, could no longer perceive either what she wanted to change in the design of the complex, or look where she was pointing on the construction plan...
Marinette finished speaking and turned to face both men. ”Well, what do you think?” she asked, resting her palms on her hips.
Felix blinked silently, trying desperately to remember at least one sentence from what she had just said, but his mind seemed completely blank, the blood stubbornly refused to return to its place, as if it wasn’t afraid of being caught in an illegal maneuver…
“That’s a great idea, Mari!” responded Adrien, God bless him, taking the hit. Not that he was in any danger of getting an actual hit, of course, Marinette's favorite that he was… But this time Adrien had saved his cousin from looking like a complete idiot, so today Felix was even ready to forgive him for all those greeting kisses...
“Well?” Marinette demanded, turning to Felix, only after she smiled approvingly at Adrien, of course. “What does Mr. Fathom think?”
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celestiall0tus · 2 years ago
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So, let's finally analyze this finale...
I , like many on here, feel that it is time to talk about the finale of Miraculous s5. I personally have had time to sit on it and read some of the views of others in the fandom and let's fully dive into this.
So, let's get the big one out of the way: Adrien. I know a lot of people are upset with the way that he was handled, and I see why. I personally am indifferent, but I see the issues clear as day. Adrien should have been there. He should have been there for the final altercation, but was denied that. Instead, he got to be the classic damsel in distress, a Grimm's fairytale heroine that had no true say in their fate. Yes, Adrien couldn't fight his father since Gabriel had the rings, but Gabriel didn't know that Adrien was Chat Noir. Thus, he could have been there for that fight so long as he was never revealed.
On top of this is the bad writing when it comes to the "nightmares." I had briefly mentioned this before, but didn't fully elaborate. So, allow me to while I blissfully ignore that BS magic was involved. Nightmares in the purest sense are vivid dreams that possess a threatening, upsetting, bizarre, or bothersome quality. What Monarch did would technically count as nightmares being bothersome, but shouldn't have invoked that level of response. I get that magic was clearly involved, but wasn't fully explained, at least to what I took in. As I understand it, he brought forth their worst fears to manifest as "nightmares." This is my personal biggest gripe as nightmares aren't like that. While vivid, they aren't clear cut and to the point. They are vague and terrifying. Like, being chased around a resort full of strangers by a murder that specifically wants to do you harm and you are terrified. Or even you being a serial killer that goes on a rampage, killing children. Or, better yet, a vision of a white-faced demon with a long, trunk like nose trying to invade your sanctuary while you run away in complete terror and before you dive into darkness you hear her ask that you come see her so she can die. Those are nightmares. Not what the show portrayed as "nightmares."
That leads me into Monarch's plan. On paper, it's actually impressive. And worked, but only because of unclear magic rules in effect. As I stated above, I don't remember a mention how the emotions would have been blown out of proportion, just that the nightmares would surface and haunt the people. As such, I find it incredibly irritating that everyone reacted the way that they did. I get brainwashing with technology and that BS, but it just felt so stupid. Like, I get the rest of the world turning on Ladybug and Chat Noir, but Paris? You're telling me that in the whole of Paris, where Ladybug and Chat Noir have been working to protect the people, are that quick to turn on their heroes and Alya is the only one to call bullshit on it? What the fuck? Seriously? Fucking bullshit on all aspects.
I have no thoughts on the fight between Bug Noire and Monarch until the final bit where Bugaboo holds Monarch at gunpoint. I do wonder if Bug was paying attention to all the rings on Monarch's hand and saw the twin rings. If I'm not mistaken (which I may be) those were present during Felix and Kagami's reenactment, so she'd know there was an amok in there, right? She'd know that was Adrien's entire life right there, right? So, I get why Gabriel acted the way he did. On some level, he was keeping his son safe. To a degree, Adrien has been a reason why Gabriel does what he does (even if he is willing to sacrifice his son at certain points and use him like another tool in his arsenal). It's actually poetic that Monarch is able to take advantage of Marinette being a fucking dumbass when she de transforms. Lesson learned, not everyone is trustworthy. There are people that are legitimately out there to get you. I get that she is young, but there you go. Or, well, maybe not.
One gripe I want to get to before something that has always irked me. Gabriel got his wish. A fucking reality altering wish. As much as I'd like to forget that Ephemeral exists, it does and we're left with the fact that is what happens when a wish is made. I was genuinely hoping that it remained contained to the what if scenario, but here we are. Reality has been warped to what Gabriel wanted in the end. A soft reset if you will. I fucking hate this shit. It's not enough that you have to pay a price for the wish. No, we need to rewrite reality on top of that. Fucking bullshit on so many fucking levels that I just fucking can't. Absolute bullshit. I don't fucking care if you let him have the damn wish, just don't fucking add in that it changes all of fucking reality. Like, FUCK!
So, that which irks me. The fact that the fucking kwamis are bound to obey those that hold their jewels. Like, fucking hell. This will always piss me off. These are essentially god like beings that they themselves see as a danger and need to be contained. Like, what the fuck? It annoyed the ever living hell out of me that Plagg and Tikki just had to bend over backward because of this. I get magic and that fucking BS, but I still hate it. If we're going to do this kind of shit, it needs to be better explained. Especially with magic because just saying "Because magic" isn't good enough. With X amount of magic systems, who fucking knows at this point. If you're going to include that shit, you need to actually explain it. And not in the fifth season where you still don't fully explain shit. Maybe they did explain it and I mentally blocked it out, but for fuck's sake, explain shit better!
I want to add in a piece I forgot. The finale could have been great if it tightened the script and series of events. A clear cut explanation for the magic and how the nightmares worked. Potentially allowing Chat to join the final battle. Cutting out all the scenes with the other people just for a reunion of sorts. They ultimately didn't add anything to Bug's final battle except as a distraction. We didn't need Luka knowing kung Fu (as hilarious as it was) we didn't need to see the other heroes from the specials, and we didn't need Bunnix returning if it doesn't help directly against Monarch aside from being a distraction. You can show us one scene of all that and continue on with the day.
That is all for this piece. I will touch on the subject of redemption and abuse as I believe they should be further explored, just not in this post. If you're interested for another L0tus rant, stay tune.
Have a good night everyone.
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sillyangstfic · 11 months ago
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Woke up and got to thinking again! First off, I think that Felix would at least appreciate becoming human because staying a sentimonster would mean outliving everyone he loves and I don't think he's emotionally stable enough for that. Neither is Adrien. But I've taken your input and have reworked it: instead of making them fully human, the potion just makes their human side more dominant. This makes it so that they're less durable than a sentimonster but more than the average human + them no longer being tied to an amok (or their own heart/soul/brain becomes the amok). Why do I want this? Just for the sake of one fucking scene:
Gabriel, paranoid that Felix was onto him, stole the ring that used to be his amok. Adrien and Felix confront Gabriel in his Hawkmoth lair for everything, all the pain and suffering he caused. When Gabriel's usual bullshit doesn't work, he tries to use to amoks to force the pair into obedience. Except it doesn't work and he bluescreens at his loss of control. Adrien and Felix transform and Gabriel fucking loses it. Cue super awesome emotional battle between Chat Noir & Argos VS Hawkmoth while they wait for the rest of team miraculous to show up.
Also, hot take: Amélie should be the one to kill off Gabriel. The bastard spent years neglecting her nephew, deprived her sister of a good death sorrounded by loved ones, tried to kill her nephew on multiple occasions, and tried to kill her son. There's also an element of FINALLY having a competant adult in the room because all of team miraculous are CHILDREN and Fu did jack shit for them. They need a competant adult to take care of them and handle the problem's they never should've had in the first place.
Seriously just let her casually walk up to Gabriel and stab him and just leave him for dead as she moves on to care for her kids.
Bonus: You are absolutely right, we should've had a PeaDragonSnake (PDS) trio. Be it platonically, a polycule, or just a Golden Trio scenario where only two are dating but the three are so inseparable that you can't tell who's dating who. Personally I'm partial to the final option with FeLuka + Bi Kagami desperately pining for Zoé. Zoé is pining just as hard but is too much of a gay disaster to approach and Chloé is making Kagami travel to The Lands of fucking Morder and retrieve the Sword from the Stone just to prove herself worthy of even considering dating her sister. Here are the fics that converted me: FeLuka & ZoeGami.
I have a particular scene in mind where the trio is just blackout drunk. Kagami is serenading really bad poetry to describe Zoé's beauty while Felix & Luka are just making out in the background. Amelie picks them up before clothes start flying. Cut to another bar where its Chloe, Sabrina, and Adrien blackout drunk. Chloe is smugly recording Adrien being pathecially whiny that Marinette isn't picking up (it's like 2 am) and is starting to cry while Zoe is having gay panic at how pretty Kagami is in that photo. She shares it with the whole class.
In addition, Kagami's confrontation with her mother should've been a sword fight on top of a skyscraper in the middle of a storm. There's a barrier preventing Chat Noir and Ladybug from entering, on one side ya got Kagami (no miraculous, just a cool sword blessed by Longg) and on the other ya got (willingly) akumatized Tomoe. Tomoe is spouting her usual controlling bullshit while Kagami is silent and glaring daggers at her mother. The only other people in the dome are Luka and Felix who refuse to leave Kagami without backup. Cue epic fight scene that ends with Tomoe losing both her arms and a leg. Kagami also loses a few chunks of skin. It ends with Kagami taking away her mother's ring and disowning her as a traitor to the Tsurugi clan unworthy of the name (oh how the turns have tabled). Meanwhile Tomoe is absolutely terrified of how beastial her daughter became and backs off. Both stubborn bitches refuse Ladybug's miracle cure cause they need the scars to remember. (inspiration)
After that, conversation at the Tsurugi household is practically dead. Tomoe is ashamed at her loss and breaks just thinking about her prosthetics. Meanwhile, Kagami healed rather nicely (curtesy of the side effects) and is thriving while she switches between the Couffaine boathouse and the Graham de Vanily penthouse.
Ykw that scene’s pretty good human!senticousins propaganda
Also hello? How is this the first I’m hearing of this. Amelie should absolutely get to murder Gabe
Thank you for the fics also, Ima go read those
Okokok while I am a Feligami shipper, Zogami hits like hello? Oh yeah. Up there with Kagaminette for me
I think Kagami should get to write bad poetry about whoever her love interest is, and also anything and anything. I think she should be our Martin Blackwood and write horrible poetry for us
Chole getting blackmail material I see
Kagami sword fight?! Kagami sword fight?! Hell yes
Here’s my idea for that: I like the storm bit, and the showdown, top of a building is peak, but instead of Felix and Luka being there, them trying to be there, to support Kagami, but like LB and CN being unable to due to the storm
Hear me out: Kagami’s mother figures out that she’s the dragon miraculous user and uses that to get her alone on the roof, and then confronting her by handing Kagami (still transformed) her sword. Kagami, knowing she’s caught, decides to detransform and fight her mother like that, as her daughter. They battle and eventually Kagami wins, and her mother rejects the akuma on her own, accepting the loss
As a foil to Gabe, I’d have her mother learn from her mistakes. She cuts off her deals with Gabe and grows closer with her daughter. She listens to her wants more, and while she’s still strict and has high expectations, she also becomes more lenient about letting Kagami do what she wants and enjoys
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