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coldtomyflash · 3 years ago

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I’ll never understand what happened to Flash. Season 1 was *so* good and then it’s like with every subsequent season they ignored what make it so successful

I mean, this might be rhetorical, but I have some actual answers to this question, especially why Seasons 1-2 were better. It's a combination of things:

Format

Pace and Length

Natural attrition of writers/producers

Motherfucking Kreisberg

Personal Taste (attachment to characters)

Details under a cut -- as well as 'metric tons of salt' so read at your own risk.

Format

So the format of The Flash is halfway between plot-driven and "case of the week" (CotW) .

With plot-driven shows you often get fewer seasons because you're telling an encapsulated story, but it works really well for dramas. Almost all critically acclaimed shows are plot-driven.

With CotW, you can go forever because people can pick up any old episode and watch it without needing lead-in and backstory to know what's going on. Cop and medical procedurals, Scooby-Doo, things like that. If you've seen one episode, you can probably pick up almost any episode in 10+ years of content and just dig in.

The CW has a lot of shows that are halfway between these. This is a difficult needle for any program to thread, but they've done surprisingly well with long-running shows in this format. Supernatural is probably their blueprint model for this style, building from its spiritual precursors like the X-Files and Buffy, but since then CW shows Flash, Arrow, Legends, etc have all done tried to replicate this approach with varying degrees of success.

The difficult balance to strike here is how much character development to have, how much plot to focus on, and how much static (non-development) to keep. The Flash and Arrow progress their character dynamics so quickly. I don't just mean they go through shit, but like we lose major villains like Eobard so quick, we lose Len and Heatwave so quick (to Legends, and then Len full-stop), and we replace them with other versions but it doesn't carry forward the dynamics. In a CotW format, that isn't good. You can't just pick up any episode of the Flash and watch the case of the week and know what's going on, but at the same time, the show has a case of the week and pretends it adheres to that format.

It's not just the villains. Part of what makes X-Files and Supernatural so effective is the ebb and flow of tension and slow maturation of interpersonal dynamics between the characters. In contrast, Barry and Iris were together quick, not just dating but married within a couple seasons. Candice Patton made a little joke on her instagram story recently -- when asked if the outfit she was wearing was a personal one or an Iris outfit -- about how Iris isn't allowed to show her stomach anymore now that she's married. And like - yeah. That's it. The shade is so deserved. She's still young and sexy but the show doesn’t let her act that way anymore. The maturation of their characters ends up feeling artificial at the rapidfire speed.

Pace and Length

Half this issue with the format is really due to length and pace.

Part of the problem with shows carrying on for a long time is that you run out of places to take the story and characters without repeating yourself. It's hard to keep things fresh. This looks different for plot-forward stories, since they advance the story quickly as their writ, compared to CotW shows which are supposed to do so slowly.

Couple this with the demand for fast-paced shows by younger viewers and it leaves so little room for them to carry the characters forward after about 4 seasons, 5 at most.

Which is crazy because they had interesting material to work with. Everything to do with Cisco's powers, Caitlin and Killer Frost, Wally, Nora, Trial of the Flash -- just all of it. They have so much fascinating material to draw from, and they did. But they did it at this breakneck pace that gives the viewer whiplash and runs them out of story too quick.

In season 1, the pacing is better. They're setting up a story, and other than the pilot jumping in too quick, it seems like characters are having mostly realistic-paced responses to the events unfolding around them, and after S1 we get Barry's trauma arc post-blackhole. But it just accelerates and stops creating room to breathe in the narrative because they're already moving on to the next thing.

Again, this pacing works for teen-dramas but it is incompatible with the CotW format. Arcs in CotW work best when they run over a full season, with adjustments in the midseason finale, and aren't resolved too quickly and don't take new characters in and out in intense bursts.

Meaning Len appearing every 6th episode in S1 works really well, keeping a character coming back without making intense plot-bursts too focused on him, and doing the same with the Rogues. In contrast, things like the 3-episode arc of Flashpoint don't work well because a casual viewer can't pick that up easily but a character/plot-forward viewer doesn't get the satisfaction of the story being dug into properly either, because shit is moving on too fast to get back to the CotW format.

(Season premieres and finales, and the lead up to and out of these are allowed to be fully plot-focused in this format, but 3 or 4 episode arcs feel under-realized. This is not unique to The Flash, I could come up with examples in other CW shows of the same format too. And the 4-month jumps after the season finales don't help. Shows like Supernatural pick up right where they left off, and when they don't, there's a reason and they use the jump for effect. The Flash just uses them to make sure they never have to show the characters actually dealing with any of the shit that goes down in the finale.)

The breakneck pace also makes for inconsistent arcs with other characters. Examples include Cisco's powers and with Caitlin being Killer Frost, and whatever the hell is going on with Harrison/Harry/Wellsboard/Sherloque/etc. It's impossible for the viewer to have a situated emotional connection to Harry(etc) because the character changes every season and we lose the one we learned to care about, so we stop bothering, but we're still being told to form a new emotional attachment to the latest replacement.

(They did something similar with what I call the "CCPD blond(e)". These tended to last a season except for S2, but in the first few seasons they introduced Eddie and killed him, introduced Patty and wrote her off fast, introduced Julian and then he left, then Dibny, etc. CotW format demands consistent characters across as many seasons as you can get them, and familiar faces continuing to pop up on an occasional recurring basis years later. The Flash utterly fails to do this).

So we don't even get that emotional gut-punch of losing a character we loved, because we know he'll be replaced, but we don't form a new attachment to the replacement because we know he'll also be replaced. And with Cisco and Caitlin, we never know how to feel about their powers because they keep switching how they feel and if they want them and what the powers mean for that person, and it's not a slow evolution.

This is damning for the CotW format, again, because it's impossible for a casual viewer to pick up a random episode and enjoy it when the character dynamics are all out of whack and there are completely different versions of these characters from one season to the next. Which members of the Flash family exist this week? Oh, what happened to that other character? No clue? Okay, carry on.

Natural Attrition of Writers

This is not unique to The Flash at all. A lot of the time, a first season of a show, or first central arc (3-5 seasons depending on the creator) get a lot of storytelling investment. A person came to the network with a story they wanted to tell and they keep that vision on track. This is their baby. For the network to pick it up, they have to come with a pitch and probably have a really clear idea for the first season's beginning and end.

The Flash was developed initially for TV by Greg Berlanti, Geoff Johns, and Andrew Kriesberg.

Berlanti took a key role in the early seasons of The Flash, on-record as chastising the writers' room for under-using characters. In the first three seasons, he was a lot more actively involved in the writing. In Season 1, Geoff Johns was also involved in the writing, and so were other executive producers like Kriesberg (more on him in a sec) and Gabrielle Stanton and Aaron and Todd Helbing. Only one of the producers, Sarah Schecter, didn't write for the first season (or any season). These are all people highly invested in the story and vision of it from the outset, with experience in this space.

(You can check the writers for each episode here; season premiers and finales and mid-season finales are often written by more senior writers including producers or creators. If you check any of those names -- Berlanti, Johns, Kriesberg, Helbing, Stanton -- you'll notice steep drop off over time in episode writing. Stanton had been a showrunner before, for example, but left the series after S2, taking her experience with her.)

Over time, the best writers will often tire of a given project because they have told the story they came to tell and are ready to move on, and/or will have other offers and interests elsewhere. (e.g. Geoff Johns moving to the DC films, where issues have mired his reputation but even if he is a shithead he is someone with a lot of history and connection to DC characters and stories and has a particular view of them that's done well with comics audiences in the past). Executive producers as writers do this too.

Even where later season writers are strong, they're bringing in new perspectives and turn-over into the writers room which itself might take characters and stories places that don't resonate as well with early audiences. To offset this, a really strong showrunner is needed in order to keep everyone on the same page and speaking to a collective vision. Ideally this person will be with the show from the start. And that's where we need to talk about Kriebserg.

Motherfucking Kreisberg

Okay so this didn't get a lot of news at the time because there was and is just so much news all the time, but Andrew Kreisberg, showrunner for S1-4 of the Flash, was called out during the #metoo movement by almost 20 people. So he was fucking fired, as he deserved to be and good riddance.

He was fired mid-s4.

And to scrub him from the show they scrubbed every episode he'd edited or worked on for the latter half of S4 and made big changes to the season so as not to use his vision or writing, so they could keep his name off it in entirely from that point forward. This meant S4 has massive narrative whiplash -- it is inconsistent because the writing team changed tracks mid-stream because they couldn't use like half their plans and material for it. They had a mad scramble to fix it while losing the guy who was in charge and promoting someone new to that role.

Thankfully, Kreisberg was never really the sole creative force. Berlanti was heavily involved in the first three seasons, and Stanton was there for S2, and so were Todd and Aaron Helbing S2 onward. So the Helbing brothers took charge to keep S4 (and later S5) on track. Which is good! Except... I don't like the Helbing brothers' writing.

Not that I loved Kreisberg's writing? His best episodes were all done either with Berlanti or with the teleplay by Grainne Godfree, and she was story editor on a ton of the best episodes. But I suspect Kreisberg was probably an ideas guy, or was maybe pushing a particular vision, and either way the Helbings really couldn't bridge the gap he left as showrunner and keep things running in an interesting enough way to pull the story through. This is just speculation/opinion though.

Regardless, I stopped watching the show during the Helbing era. The latter half of Season 4 was just bad for reasons I couldn't articulate at the time, but now in retrospect understand as a falling apart of the narrative they had setup in that mad post-Kreisberg scramble. So I gave S5 a shot but could not for the life of me get into it.

By all accounts though, the show is still going strong, and Eric Wallace picked up as showrunner to replace Helbing for season 6 onward, and is still actively involved in the writing (has been since S4). It might be the case that Wallace has brought it back to a decent pace and narrative, and I just never gave his eras a chance (season 7 did great on Rotten Tomatoes)? But then again, it’s been an entirely different show since (mid) s4 onward, and I just never loved the newer version of it.

Personal Taste - Attachment to Characters

You said in your ask that they subsequently ignored what made it successful in the first place. I think the question of what made it good is up to personal taste, and a lot of it for me is down to characters.

There's some objective metrics: viewership has dropped steadily by season, with a steep drop as Berlanti stepped away, as Kreisberg was sacked, and over time the show demonstrated it was going to commit to the bit with giving us breakneck pace plot and character development and eventually lose the characters we came for in the first place, or at least the versions of them we fell in love with.

But for me? The show lost the plot by the end of S2 and while S3 started strong-ish, it upended it with bad pacing by the end. Meaning that within 3 years, the Flash went from my hyperfixation to "I can't even get through this season" fast.

A lot of that has to do with Captain Cold (for me).

When I watched the pilot episode of the Flash, I was genuinely underwhelmed. I thought I'd give the show a few episodes to hook me, and by episode 3 it was improving but I wasn't in love. Then something magical happened. That something is season 1 episode 4 Going Rogue, which introduced Captain Cold. You can picture me sitting up straighter in my seat, leaning forward, paying attention. I was googling the show (for the first time) after the episode because they had teased Heatwave and I had to know more. Before then I'd never even heard of the Rogues, and by their second appearance in 1x10 I had all the backstory. After Len's third appearance in 1x16 I was literally starting novel-length fic.

So when he was written off mid-season 2, I was disappointed, but figured -- hey, more of him on Legends. That... didn't pan out the way I'd hoped. But then, hey, it's a comics-book show, and the Rogues are so integral to the Flash's storyline, and Wentworth Miller has this unique contract (so did Katie Cassidy, at the time) to appear across the Arrowverse shows. Certainly they're resurrecting my favorite character.

(Dear reader, they were not resurrecting my favorite character).

I tried to love the other Rogues, and indeed do love a lot of them -- but they replaced them too! Much like the CCPD blond(e) and the revolving Wellses, we stopped getting Weather Wizard and instead got his daughter; we stopped seeing the Trickster; Heatwave left when Len did. We got a great arc with Amunet but then she was gone too. Shawna returned once after S1 and it was freaking delightful, but just once.

Season 1 doesn't suffer any of these issues because it's introducing us to the characters. If it kept some of the same characters over time, we'd keep coming back. For me that would be keeping Captain Cold and the Rogues and that neat messy sticky dynamic, but for others it is, I'm sure, other characters, versions they fell in love with along the way. But the show treats them all like a revolving door and at best we get weird alternates and replacements. In forgetting that audiences love characters as the core of stories -- especially in a CotW format which is arguably the most character-driven of all -- that's where The Flash fails.

To think, we could have had it all.

#fandom wank #wank for ts #the flash critical #canon critical #we could have had it all #metric tons of salt

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talkingtea · 3 years ago

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Bart is someone who’s shiny and happy and absolutely adores his mother so, of course, his scenes with Iris are limited. Wouldn’t want her to have too much positive interaction in her life. 🙄”

TT Right! I just love Barts personality he is always so happy and shines in everything he does. He brings that good energy. Yes he absolutely adores his mother so much, you can see it in his eyes and the way he smiles he lights up like a Christmas tree when he see her 🤣😍.

And this is what piss me the hell off when it comes to Iris not being loved, taking care of, appreciate, respected, protected. Hell anything positive it’s not shown. 🙄

Every since Eric took over Iris has endured trauma,suffering&pain all from the ppl she thought cared&loved her🥺he definitely has something against her bc why does he love to see her traumatized.She is always fading/being snatched to other earths and shit 🙄

I feel deep down in my soul that Eric has something against Iris.bc why does he love to put her in danger, traumatizing&pain🥺Like she is the only one enduring this.Than he always allows ppl to yell&scream at her and he think that is ok! Why can’t she be loved on instead of tortured😩 ( I know why but it’s just hard to grasp all of it sometimes) like holy hell why can’t she just be happy like damn🥺 she is your LEADING LADY!!! Not no side characters🙄 Now I pissed all over again Candice Patton deserve better😞

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momentofmemory · 4 years ago

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the post about MJ is great, but i don't think Iris West belonged there. there's a strong argument to be made that she's a terrible *character*, regardless whether she's canonical or not. it's not about being Black, it's about the character being consistently annoying. the better issue to take with her is WHY they write Black women to be awful. in fact, candice patton deserves an oscar for what she's done with the terrible awful writing she's been given. she's amazing. Iris is the WORST.

Hi nonnie, thanks for stopping by. :)

Whether or not Iris is a poorly written character is a matter of debate—I certainly don’t think so, or at least no more than anyone else on a CW show—but for the purposes of the conversation, I’m more interested in the fandom’s response��to her.

It’s a well recognized trend that fandom disproportionately hates on female characters, usually for the very same traits that get praised in male characters, but it’s overwhelmingly worse for Black women. You can’t hardly step two feet into the Flash fandom without hearing someone ragging on her, and it’s just not proportional to Iris’s faults. Darcy Lewis from Thor can be seen as annoying; she became the fandom’s favourite Little Black Dress. Felicity Smoak from Arrow can be seen as clingy and controlling; fans adored her so much she elevated from a side character to the canon OTP. I’ve never, ever seen a Black woman receive this kind of treatment in any fandom—in fact, it usually goes in the opposite direction, like Angel Coulby’s decreased screen time in Merlin.

Her coworkers were just as bad. When Chris Pratt got called out for his actual sketchy ties (in a meme of all things), his co-stars immediately rushed to defend him. When Candice Patton experienced death threats, hate brigades, calls for her character to be killed off, and was treated as genuinely less than? Grant Gustin didn’t do anything to defend her until as late as 2019 when fans actually called him out on it.

When a white male character is written “poorly,” fandom has no issue promptly fixing it and decrying the writers—think defense squads for Loki from Marvel, or Peter Hale from Teen Wolf—but when a Black women is “poorly” written, the hate is always directed towards the character herself. There aren’t thousands of fix-it fics. Meta writers don’t flock to justify her. She’s just seen as a problem, and usually the solution is to bully or kill her off.

I think it’s fair and valid to dislike a character, but when it becomes a pattern, and one filled with unjustifiable hatred, it’s worthy of considering where that dislike came from. If a petty action they took had been done by my favourite character instead, would I have excused it? Do I like irreverent humor better when it comes from a guy? And, if I genuinely dislike a character, how do I go about dealing with it?

Fandom is transformative. Fandom is power. If all Hollywood ever hears about is how much I hate women/bipoc, then all I accomplish is even fewer women/bipoc onscreen.

#asks #fandom racism #fandom misogyny #fandom misogynoir #fandom culture #iris west #meta #memrants #anonymous

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perfectdisastcr · 4 years ago

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💗 i would like a list of all 3 million potential pairings please 🙈

my god, i would love to take the time out of my day to give that to you, and just know that we can ship literally anybody and everybody because that’s all we ever do in the first place and you know how much i love doing that with you too. my favorite writing partner everybody, bre is hands down the best partner in the whole world, and i’m lucky enough to be able to have her at all. she’s mine and i’m never going to let her go because i love her so much! she’s literally the best thing to ever happen to me and i know i wouldn’t be here through the shitty times and all without her! everybody better go follow her right now and send her all the love i swear to god, because she’s the only person on this hell site that shows me the attention that i deserve! also that list of potential pairings is below the cut, and don’t say i didn’t warn you. 👀

send 💗 if you’re open to the possibility of a romantic ship eventually happening between our muses

all these characters are up for shipping with all your characters:

alex gardiner (paul rudd) alexander hamilton (lin-manuel miranda) alex mullner (brant daughterty) alice liddell (madelyn cline) alisha khara (jameela jamil) annie abel (luna blaise/anya chalotra) antonia moreno (victoria justice) apollonia levine (anastasia karanikolaou) arthur pendragon (niall horan) ashley spinelli (ursula corbero) aspen rhodes (sofia black-d'elia) astrid porter (karlie kloss) audrey ramirez (selena gomez) august khalil (rami malek) axel turner (charlie weber/skeet ulrich) aziz hassan (riz ahmed) bailee rose (jenny boyd) bambi prince (lachlan watson) barbie roberts (kate upton) barley lightfoot (michael clifford) beatriz velasco (camila cabello/diane guerrero) beau hester (froy gutierrez) beck collins (joe keery) bellatrix lestrange (carmela zumbado) belle dubois (margaret qualley) belle summers (candice king) berliouz bonfamille (alex fitzalan) bernard davenport (gavin leatherwood) billie groves (kiana lede/emmy raver-lampman) billy hargrove (dacre montgomery) bindi 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(giancarlo commare) merida dunbroch (bree kish) michael ‘goob’ yagoobian (dylan o’brien/andrew scott) mickey hader (shawn mendes) miguel rivera (diego tinoco) mike wheeler (finn wolfhard) mildred ‘millie’ brantwood (stella maeve) milo martinez (itzan escamilla/tyler posey) milo thatch (jason ralph) minerva ‘minnie’ winslett (jenna coleman) mischa locklear (jenny slate) moana motunui (auli'i cravalho) molly wheaton (saoirse monica jackson/kristen bell/kristin chenoweth) monet bugg (annie murphy) mordecai ‘cai’ baird (joseph morgan) murray bauman (brett gelman) nadja (natasia demetriou) naomi phillips (hunter king) natalie fuller (krysten ritter) nate gardiner (tom holland/thomas hayes/joe keery/adam scott) nemo fisher (nick robinson) nick novak (jon bernthal) nick wilde (jake johnson) nina baxter (laura harrier) nolan van ness (louis hynes/benjamin wadsworth) nymphadora tonks (kennedy walsh) odessa barnes (inanna sarkis) osbourne russo (oliver jackson-cohen) otis richardson (finn jones) owen monroe (zachary levi) paloma katz (brittany o'grady) paxton gardiner (douglas booth) pearl turner (maia mitchell/aubrey plaza) penny proud (sarah jeffery) perdita ryan (alisha boe/zoe kravitz) perrie wheaton (ariela barer/jessica alba) peter pan (rudy pankow) peter pettigrew (alex lawther) phil mcdermot (leo howard/dylan o’brien) phineas flynn-fletcher (michael provost) piper donahue (millie bobby brown/katherine langford/felicity jones) pippa mei (amy okuda) pollux isola (camila mendes) portia sadler (hayden panettiere) prairie gallagher (lucy boynton) quaid ‘q’ wright (jake gylenhaal) quinton saunders (jamie dornan) rain montgomery (nick jonas) ramona montgomery-wallis (lana condor/ashley park) reed knightley (arthur darvill) reign fentworth (madison bailey/vanessa morgan) reno thames (joshua bassett) richie tozier (finn wolfhard/bill hader) river montgomery (jack griffo/tyler blackburn) robin buckley (maya hawke) roger holtz (ben platt) roger radcliffe (aaron tveit) romy reyes (carmela zumbado) ronald ‘mac’ mcdonald (rob mcelhenney) roosevelt banks (spence moore II) rowan burke (andy biersack) roxanne sutton (lady gaga) rush mccoy (cody fern) russell montgomery (ian harding/hugh jackman) russell montgomery II (jack dylan grazer/timothee chalamet/adam brody) sable rosales (catherine bascoy) saint fentworth (reece king) sally finklestein (marina ruy barbosa) salvador ‘sal’ mendoza (jorge blanco) samson gardiner (cole sprouse) sandy diamandis (christina hendricks) sawyer bell (penn badgley) seamus kennedy (aria shanghasemi/michael sheen) seb seif (zeeko zaki) selena hada (camila cabello/diane guerrero) severus snape (rob raco) shawn taggart (ben barnes) shay strauss (chris wood) shia zoheir (rami malek) shiloh young (devery jacobs) shiri madani (inbar lavi) simba king (john boyega) sloane shapiro (diana silvers/linda cardellini) sofia ramirez (camila cabello/camila mendes/morena baccarin/fluvia lacerda) stefani vidal (louriza tronco) stella romero (adria arjona) steve harrington (joe keery) stevie wagner (anne hathaway/jennifer garner) sutton reiser (katherine langford/kat dennings) tandy hawthorne (giorgia whigham) tanner cohen (ross lynch) tarrant ‘mad hatter’ hightopp (hale appleman) tarryn fischer (giorgia whigham/perry mattfeld) tatum barton (ben schwartz) teddy flood (james marsden) tex navarro (bad bunny) thad abraham (dylan sprouse/chris evans) the handler (kate walsh) thomas gardiner (felix mallard/paul rudd) tierney kennedy (maisie williams) timothy ‘tigger’ trigger (jeremy allen white) tinker bell (sabrina carpenter) tj lieberman (armie hammer) tommy burns (will poulter) topher larkin (alexander hogh andersen) trey turner (jonathan daviss) ursula celia (normani/lizzo) vaughn abel (max greenfield) veronica lodge (camila mendes) vidia viento (emma dumont) vivica lang (madison pettis/tessa thompson) wanda cowell (brenda song) warren wentz (robert pattinson) wendell langston (link neal) wilbur robinson (david mazouz) winnie knox (sophie turner/jessica chastain) wren green (alexander calvert) wynona winstead (sarah hyland/cristin milioti) xander talbot (g-eazy) york pemberton (heather baron-gracie) yusef barlas (zayn malik) zack abrams (alex fitzalan) ziggy (taron egerton) zoey matthews (olivia munn)

#outoftrash #ncwperspective

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halfemptygirlrps-archive · 4 years ago

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@joliebiijou She deleted her Instagram.

@crayonboxhearts the cast did a live chat the day before the finale and she seemed fine but she deleted her insta on tuesday

@barnes-107th halfcmptygirl Fola :( Ugh that show doesn’t deserve her, she’s the sweetest, and she got bullied by the “fans” for so long just so they can have the straight white couple, and the writers gave in, and treated her character like crap all season. Fuck this show honestly. They did her so dirty.

Sooo shout out to these peeps for informing me about this. I know she had an IG but I dont use it myself so I dont check it but I am not at all surprised that they sent her hate as even Candice Patton got death threats. It’s immature and stupid and if she wanted to leave and the writers did what they had to (like when Shamier wanted to leave) or they did it to please the fans they thought “Mattered” I am still disappointed. I can’t blame them if she wanted to leave but if this was their choose then that’s so fucked up. She deserved better. This is her job, she is not Maddie and doesn’t deserve that shit for just living her dream as an actor ad wanting to live her life and do her job well. It’s so fucking crazy that all this had to happen just so they could get what they wanted and trash a really good show in the process. This girl was just trying to do what was written but crazy ass trick ass lunatics can’t tell the difference between fiction and reality and they ruin it for all of us. I am so tired It took me so long to get to making and then finishing this post cause I genuinely had been so upset about the show. Like, watching it made me feel seen, which honestly doesn’t happen for me no matter how much I love Waverly Earp. I could honestly relate to Maddie as a non-fem, queer, black woman and seeing a non-girly black chick with tattoos that like boys AND girls and was confident AND smart just... Meant something to me. AND IT HAD MERMAIDS. And they took that away from me. Like, where tf is my representation? I am just saddened , deeply saddened and no matter how much I like a show or a character, Maddie was me, Maddie was all of us. Maddie was the voice or reason. I love Poussey but I am not a straight up lesbian and not in prison, I loved Mercedes on Glee but she was straight, I don’t watch Black Lightning (because fuck CW shows) and I aint white. I was tired of near misses and accepted that it wouldn’t happen for me, to say THIS CHARACTER IS ME and now just....

I hope Fola lands a really big, amazing lead role on another show and they treat her write and that the writers and cast stand up for her instead of brush her aside and that the fandom doesn’t hate this poor woman for doing her job. Fola, Maddie and all the Polymarine shippers deserved better.

Goodbye, Siren.

I will enjoy and cherish the memory of the first two seasons and always stand with my section of the fandom, but this show is broken now and I am done.

#fola evans akingbola #polymarine

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tht-lesbian-fangirl · 4 years ago

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So do you like Ryan Wilder now that she’s played by a Black bisexual woman?

Okay, I legitimately can’t decipher the tone of this anon, but I’m going to give you my thoughts anyway…

No. Why would anyone’s opinion of a character change just because of a minority status added to them? Lexa isn’t a great character because she’s gay. Zari (both versions) isn’t a great character because she’s Muslim. Lexa and Zari are both fantastic characters on their own AND they’re gay/Muslim. Representation doesn’t mean creating an ill-thought-out character that most fans already had a negative response to, but then slapping minority identities on and saying “dO yOu LikE HeR nOW??!” Good representation comes when a character is first created to work well into the story. Diversity only embellishes those great characters and then allows the writing to dig deeper and adapt accordingly. That’s why Batwoman Season 1 never felt like it tokenized any character, because Mary, Sophie, Luke, etc. all had amazing development, introductions, and plot value (unlike what other shows Supergirl tend to do). And Ryan Wilder’s current character description seems to undo most, if not all, of the story.

The casual character swap is exposing how the show never cared about Kate Kane, they just cared about having a lesbian lead. For all of Caroline Dries’ talk about loving Kate, she constantly disregarded a crucial element to the comics character: her Judaism (which is something I’ve talked about before in a post and as a podcast guest). The show has always just wanted a lesbian hero and apparently it didn’t matter who. It’s crystal clear, due to how anything Jewish onscreen was an afterthought and not truly embedded into the character, despite Judaism playing a huge role in Batwoman comics.

This sends the message that lesbian characters can just be swapped out because the individual characters themselves don’t matter, just their sexuality.

It also sends the message that you can just swap out different minorities so your show can keep its diversity points. Because that’s exactly what’s happening here: they’re trading a Jewish woman for a Black woman. And why would that be okay? It wouldn’t be okay if it was the reverse, right?

In my opinion, I think one of two things should’ve happened:

Javicia cast as the new Kate Kane. This casting would keep everything that Season 1 built up and would stick to comics. Because, as we know, only Kate has ever worn the Batwoman cowl (unlike how many other DC heroes work, so using Batman as an argument is a faulty excuse). There would also be no representation lost, only gained. Black Jews are incredibly underrepresented and often dismissed by goyim and unfortunately some sects of Jews as well. It would be phenomenal to see a Black Jewish leading lady, especially if she’s also gay and a hero.

Or restructure the character of Ryan to not be so disrespectful to Kate’s legacy. Stealing the suit to kill a villain out of revenge? Right after we witnessed an entire PTSD arc for Kate having killed Cartwright? Acting antagonistically toward Luke and Mary? Repeating the same “rough around the edges, doesn’t think she’s a hero” personality arc that Kate already had before becoming a Paragon and Justice League member? And forgive my gullibility for thinking the CW would actually listen to Vanessa Morgan’s valid complaints about constantly giving Black characters drug-related backgrounds… Yeah, if the show is really running with a new character to take up the mantel, then they have to actually honor Kate Kane and give Ryan the ability to be liked by the audience. Why not have Ryan try to work with the Bat Team to look for Kate, since Dries said Kate’s disappearance would be a focal mystery of Season 2? Why not give her different positive traits that separate her from Kate-- like leading with compassion, wanting to be part of a team, literally anything that makes Ryan not seem like a rougher copy! I even saw someone on twitter throw out the idea of Ryan being a former lawyer and that would be cool! The show, audience, and Javicia deserve better.

Speaking of Javicia, even though many people are upset about the mishandling of Kate Kane and seeming erasure of a comic canon Jewish lesbian’s identity, this is an issue with the WRITING. It is our job as fans and decent humans to fully support Javicia and stand up against anyone who attacks her, especially those hiding behind “supporting Kate” as an excuse. I consider any hate directed toward her as racist. Javicia has no control over the story or writing, she’s simply an actress who earned a leading role and we cannot allow an inkling of what’s happened to Candice Patton, Anna Diop, etc. happen to her too.

The CW (and all of TV) could use a ton more Black leads, especially LGBT women who represent that demo on screen and off. That’s why part of me is so happy to see people celebrating the casting on social media. But please understand that the other part, the part of me that grew up clinging to Kate Kane’s comics when I felt so alone during my coming out years, is extremely sad about how we’re losing that Jewish lesbian representation and no one really seems to be talking about it.

#if you wanna talk more about this feel free to message me #my feelings are clearly mixed #happy for the win with javicia but sad for the loss of kate kane #javicia leslie #batwoman #asks

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iindigostreaks · 5 years ago

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⌞ʾ⁎ ⊰ candice patton, cisfemale, she/her ⊱ i think i just saw BELLE BLANC walk across trafalgar square, singing to LA VIE EN ROSE ( MICHAEL BUBLÉ FEAT CÉCILE MCLORIN SALVANT ). you know, the TWENTY-SEVEN-year-old LIBRARIAN? people claim that they are just like BELLE from BEAUTY AND THE BEAST. it must be because they are RESILIENT and IMPULSIVE as well… though i could be wrong. all i know for sure is that they live at PETERSBURG apartment.

belle blanc grew up in a small french town and dreamed of one day moving to paris. dream stayed just that, a dream. her thoughts were not far from taking wild adventures to places unknown - none came to fruition, of course.

head is very much in the clouds, trying to keep herself away from the real world by sticking her nose in books - pretending to be said characters, thinking their lives are much more interesting than her own.

she is very much a bookworm, curling up with a book and a cup of tea - taking her to places that she could not have imagined on her own, and allowing herself to escape. escaping was all she knew how to do.

gaudy is not a word that is in belle blanc’s vocabulary; she is a very simple female, she does not need the finer things in life to make her happy. her aesthetics are more cottage feel than rich parisian woman.

along with reading, belle is very intelligent, but she does not like to boast about her brains, wanting to hide her smarts away to simply connect with others. intelligence to belle does not make a person - tests and quizzes could not show who a person really was which hurts belle - she thinks others deserved better than to be tested, everyone she knows has a different style of learning new things and tests could not determine such different intelligence levels. she is a strong advocate for believing in someone and their potential. there are always moments where she is trying to inspire those around her.

in all her positive thinking comes the times when anxiety hits - she does not claim to be a perfect person, never has there been one. belle is very much in tune with her emotions most of the time - anxiety likes to tell her no. another reason she slips her mind elsewhere to her books and daydreaming. putting a facade that she does not have anxiety issues comes easy for her - she tries not to show that she might be suffering from those unknown feelings inside.

belle, in general, is just a good-hearted person and always strives to see the good in others. as feisty as she can get, she generally loves and cares for everyone. she can’t handle the idea of hurting or hating someone - it’s not in her DNA.

her career as a librarian gives her time to read during those times when no one comes in. belle loves her job, but she does crave more. every day she’s trying to figure out what more she wants out of her life.

i am going to be adding on as i go on and write more for her. i hate intros and i feel like i never know what to say :x ~~~ so this is a messy mess !! :”)

#musicalhqs:intro #——there must be more than this provincial life | ( belle blanc )#anxiety tw

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ittybittymonet · 5 years ago

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All I ask is that heather hemmons gets treated like she deserves. The Roswell nm fandom sucks and I don’t understand why they would race bend and then just treat them like an extra. The writing for Roswell nm is kinda crazy but I just want it to get better. I feel like heather is getting treated like Candice Patton from flash was and I just don’t want her to have to deal with the nonsense.

#roswell cast #roswell nm #i dont understand #why cast a black girl to make her background

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keeloves · 6 years ago

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My Top 10 least favorite Celebrities

Now keep in mind this list is simply my opinion I don’t mean to offend people and I do my best to give good reasons on why I don’t respect or like any of these people.

#10 Danielle Panabaker

I haven’t always had a problem with Danielle. She is the reason I started watching the Flash. I was also familiar with her work on Disney channel. She starred in the movies “Stuck in the Suburbs” “Read it and Weep” alongside her sister Kay Panabaker and most of you know she was in the movie Sky High. I was excited to see Danielle move on to bigger and better things. However, my issues with her began after watching her interviews and how I heard she tried to steal Candice’s spot as leading female. I tried to let it go at first but the more interviews I watched of her the more I started to lose respect for her. There was this ‘Ship war” between West Allen & Snowbarry. The problem with that is that Snowbarry is nonexistent. That was made up shortly after Candice Patton a black woman was cast as the leading female. Danielle has baited her racist shippers into thinking Snowbarry could happen. She has boasted about her and Grant’s chemistry right in front of Candice and Carlos and she has disregarded canon for the sake of baiting her SB shippers. Candice Patton has always talked about including more females on the show and Danielle boasts about being the “Only girl in STAR Labs” She even implied that her character Caitlin was jealous of Candice’s character Iris simply because of attention Iris waEs getting from guys. Candice on the other hand says, “That Iris will be fighting over a guy.” Danielle never once mentions Candice or her character in an interview but completely gets excited over Emily Bett Rickard’s character Felicity because “It was great having another female on the show.” Even though she got done bragging about being “The only female in STAR Labs” The worst thing is she tried to pass off a moment of sexual assault/harassment as a cute Snowbarry moment just get her portion of the fan-base excited. Even worse than that she did that in front of Candice and Carlos. Carlos even had to remind her she had her own ship called SnowStorm. In a most recent she did, she was asked about a Snowest friendship (Iris & Caitlin) she didn’t even give a straight answer she said something along the lines of “Iris doesn’t really make a lot of sense in STAR Labs and I am excited to see her journalism arc” and I am like that had absolutely nothing to do with the question that was being asked. Her answer sounded a lot like Iris West Allen haters. I don’t know if Danielle is doing this on purpose because she is mad at the fact she was not cast as the lead or is it because she really is that oblivious to the kind of horrible stuff people say about her female costar? Either way I don’t have much respect for Danielle because she is willfully ignorant to her privilege she has a white woman. Honestly Candice deserves a better female costar than the one she has now.

#9 Alexandra Shipp

She is known for playing Storm and the singer Aaliyah. Storm in the comics is a dark skin full blooded black woman. Alexandra Shipp is a mixed woman. Once again, the casting directors were too lazy to hire someone like Lupita to play Storm. When people expressed how upset they were that Alexandra Shipp was cast as Storm she basically told people to get over it. Okay now on one hand Alexandra is an actress so she should be allowed to play a part without getting back lash. However, the problem is that Hollywood has a long history of casting racially ambiguous/mixed women as all out black female characters who are supposed to be dark skin. Hollywood is colorist as hell. Alexandra basically said she isn’t going to miss any opportunity to audition for a part or take a part even if it is meant for a dark skin woman. As an actress she has a right to do that but the downfall this prove she is unaware of the privilege she has a mixed woman. As a mixed woman myself I believe we should be using our privilege to help up lift dark skin women. Media shits on black women enough and it’s even worse when mixed women who are half black are helping this problem. Sadly, Alexandra Shipp isn’t the only woman guilty of this. Yara Shahidi and Amandla Stenberg will acknowledge their privilege as mixed women but then turn around take parts meant for full on dark skin black girls. That is so hypocritical and this trend Hollywood and in media in general really need to die. So, I hope that these women stop doing this and really do something to fight against the colorism in Hollywood.

#8 Julie Plec

I have only watched to season 1 episode 7 of The Vampire Diaries. I have watched clips online too. Three reasons I have trouble getting through that show. One Damon is an abusive asswipe, two Delena and three Bonnie Bennet’s piss poor treatment. I put Julie Plec on this list because she called Delena sexy and treats her one black character the worst out of all the characters on the show. She is entitled to her opinion on Delena. However, my question is what is exactly sexy about an abusive relationship? Damon has raped and abused Elena and her friends, has killed several people she has care about because she didn’t do what he wanted, the biggest example is that when Elena rejected Damon he murdered her brother by snapping his neck. Yet she calls that a sexy relationship? She sabotaged Stelena and Bamon actual healthy relationships to force an unhealthy couple. The only time Damon is likable is when he is around Bonnie. Bamon on the show didn’t happen because Bonnie is black. They happened in the books because Bonnie was white in the books. The fact that Julie Plec can tease ships like Delena and Stelena but is so quick to shut down Bamon shippers is part of the reason racism in fandoms exist. Behavior like that from people like Julie Plec and Danielle Panabaker are only helping fuel a racist fanbase. You can’t tell me Julie has never seen the nasty racist stuff that Kat Graham the actress and Bonnie Bennet the character gets. If she has seen it and said nothing, then shame on her for not saying anything. Anyways I don’t have too much else to say but when I complete the series of TVD I will make sure to give more thorough opinion on the show and Julie.

#7 Marc Guggenheim & Wendy Mericle (This picture felt right due to my feelings on them)

These two will forever be known as the two idiots who ruined Arrow. I have three big problems with these two. One, their treatment of female characters, two the vast amounts of white washing and three how unprofessional they are. Every female character that has been killed off died in a way where they had no chance to defend themselves. Shado and Moria stabbed with their hands tied behind their backs and killed off for the sake of man pain. Sara Lance shot off a building with arrows while caught off guard. Dinah Laurel Lance Earth 1 the true Black Canary frozen by magic stabbed with an Arrow gets successful surgery only to have a random seizure and die. Really? However, the men on this show no matter how evil get to die as a hero. The worst thing about Laurel’s last moments is that she spent it with Oliver a man who treated her like shit and her last words were spent propping up his relationship with Felicity. Laurel was treated like trash all through out the show. Marc and Wendy didn’t know what character was going in the grave until episode 16. The death took place in episode 18. Katie Cassidy found out two episodes before that her character was going in the grave and she didn’t even find out in person she was told over the phone. So not only are Marc and Wendy unprofessional but they have proven themselves to be incompetent writers. Even John Barroman was dissatisfied at his departure from the show. They are also heavily misogynistic in their writing in the way they kill their female characters without giving them chance to defend themselves as I have mentioned earlier and in the way, they write Felicity. Felicity is written as a jealous bitch. She has been jealous of every single one of Oliver’s relationships. They had her refer to Lian Yu as fantasy Island a place that Oliver describes as his personal hell, just because there were two other women with him on the beach. Now on to the problem of white washing. Arrow has a bad habit of white washing characters. Here is a list of characters that Arrow has white washed https://thenerdsofcolor.org/2015/04/10/white-canary-and-arrows-habit-of-whitewashing/ Arrow also treats characters especially female characters like they are interchangeable. The character Evelyn Sharp is Starling in the comics but because she was introduced the episode after they killed Laurel she got the name Artimis attached to her due to the popularity of the Young Justice character to simply gain them more views. Evelyn Sharp/Starling are characters that have never had a live adaptation so why not do that character instead of mix matching characters. The next character they messed up is Dinah Drake who was established as Laurel’s mom on the show and she is the first Black Canary in the comics. Yet the show introduces to a new Black Canary named Tina Boland whose real name happens to be Dinah Drake. Arrow now has had four different Dinahs two of them being Laurel. Conner Hawk is now randomly John Diggle Junior and they have completely erased the Asian half. William and Samantha are supposed to be Blasian characters named Conner and Sandra Hawk only to be random white washed nobodies. .I hate how they treat their queer/lgbtq characters like trash. They forced a lesbian into a hetero marriage and have their one bi character sleep around. Marc even admitted two bi characters of the oppososite gender hooked up simply because they were both bi. I am sorry to all the LGBTQ people out there for being represented so terribly. Anyways thank god Marc and Wendy won’t be around for season 7 of Arrow. All though sadly their damage of the show will be left behind

#6 Marlene King

She is the writer for Pretty Little Liars and Famous in Love. I put Marlene on this list because of “creative choices” she has made in her shows. In Pretty Little Liars and Famous in Love she had characters statutorily raped and did nothing about it. Toby was raped by two women, one being his step sister Jenna and the second woman being Alex, Spencer’s identical twin sister. For those going to Alex didn’t rape Toby yes, she did because she pretended to be Spencer to trick Toby into having sex with her. Tricking someone into having sex with you is rape. The fact that Toby’s rape from Jenna was played off as a secret love affair is disgusting and purpurates the stereotype that all guys are horny and want sex. This ignores male rape victims. Then I watched the scene where Alex and Toby are “having sex” and the people in the comments are calling it cute just because Alex looks like Spencer. That is so gross. There is nothing cute about watching someone get raped. Then on Famous in Love Nina who is the mother of Jordan’s best friend was having sex with Jordan when he was 16 and she was an adult. All though I am having trouble with that because people say she didn’t know because Jordan lied about his age. I am not sure if that is true but if she didn’t and found out it was her job as the adult to put to a stop to it but if she did know and didn’t care then shame on her and she needs to be in prison in a cell next to Ezra Fitz who I will talk about next. Ezra Fitz purposely stalked four underage girls and started a relationship with one of them knowing full well that she was underage and knew he was going to be her teacher all to write a book about their missing friend who is another underage girl that he had a relationship with. This was never addressed in a nuanced way. Ezra never went to jail or prison. Instead people questioned his relationship with Aria, but not once did they call the police on him. He stalked the four girls while he claimed to be away on business. Then at the end of the series Aria and Ezra get married. Yes, that is right folks Marlene King had a victim marry their statutory rapist/stalker. Sadly, that is not the only abusive couple that ended up together. The one LGBTQ couple that ended up together was abusive and only ended together because of whiny ass fanbase and Emily’s eggs being implanted into Alison without either girl’s knowledge which is a violation of both girl’s bodies. I have gone on in the past on why I hate Emison so if you want to know more read my Top 10 worst couples list where you will find Emison and Ezria. The next problem I have is how Marlene treats poc characters and her lgbtq/queer characters. She treated Paige badly even though Paige had the most common sense. She made a few mistakes but learned from them and she didn’t get the happy ending she deserved. The show Pailey lived together but we don’t get to see that instead we get flash backs of Emison where Alison is abusing Emily. Maya a woman of color who was also bisexual killed off for shock value. Yvonne woman of color Toby’s finance killed off just because of Spoby, Charlette a transgender character made into a villain and killed off, Shauna made into a villain and killed off. Ugh. Anyways Marlene is guilty of promoting abusive relationships by having two be endgame. She is basically saying if “Your abuser is nice to you sometimes then you should give them what they want.

#5 Adam Horowitz & Edward Kitsis

They are best known for making the show Once Upon A Time. I wrote a long post on deviant art that I will copy and paste here if you want a more thorough explanation but those of you wanting a brief explanation on what my problem with them are here you go. I have four main problems. One, they way the treat male rape victims on the show, two the fact it took them seven seasons to have people of color on the show because prior to that they have been killed off, three the vast amounts of queer baiting they do and four the fact that a woman needs to have a child and a man to have a happy ending. The first lgbtq/queer couple they had were rushed, forced and slapped together and then the two characters were never seen again. It just felt like they wanted brownie points from the lgbtq/queer community for representation. They have had three females on male rape which two out of three of them were done by deception and two out of the three rapes had babies born from this. Okay now here is the long-winded version from Deviant Art about my problems with Adam and Eddie. Its long because it is my review on Once Upon a Time. “There is a lot I am going to say here. These are my overall thoughts on Once Upon a Time and the writers. Not all of this is going to be positive so be prepared. Once Upon A Time was a show I really enjoyed because of the many characters I grew up with got to be done differently and interpreted different ways. I thought the names characters had were quite clever. For example, Cora is the Queen of Hearts and Core means hearts, Regina Mills last named being Mills was because her mom was the Miller's daughter or how Rumpelstiltskin was called Mr. Gold or Detective Weaver because he weaved and spun gold. I loved all the clever names. My favorite story lines were Ruby being the wolf, and her boyfriend being named Peter as a nod to Peter and the wolf. I also enjoyed Ingrid as a character and I enjoyed the show for what it was. However, this show has many problems which I will now get into. The show's main problem is that villains’ actions are not called out properly. The two biggest examples are Regina and Rumple. Regina, has mass murdered three villages worth of people, separated children from their families, locked away Belle in a tower for 28 years and straight up raped Graham and yes folks I said it she RAPED Graham. Several people of asked Adam and Eddy about the Regina raping Graham argument and they have dismissed the argument by saying it Graham was Regina's sex slave. This isn't the only problem with Regina. She has committed so many heinous crimes and none of her main victims have called her out for it they just give her a free pass because "She's good now". Once Upon A Time has a huge problem with rape in general. Adam and Eddy have written three female on rape cases and never once bothered to address any of them. Two out of three of the came a child and two out of three rape victims ended up dying by murder basically and it was never dealt with again. Zelena killed Marion a woman of color (We are getting to that soon) shape shifted into her then raped Robbin Hood who was dating Regina at the time. Then Zelena gets pregnant and names her daughter Robin? Why? I truly believe it was to spite Regina and rub it in her face that she can't bear children of her own. What the hell were Adam and Eddy thinking naming Zelena's baby Robin? Then Gothel raped Nook/Wish Hook and had Alice. Why won't they address this issue. What about Emma and Neal. Neal aka Bealfire is over 300 years old or 24 for safety and Emma was 16 or 17 years old. No one thought that relationship was weird? I feel conflicted about Swanfire. The most problematic relationship to me is Rumbelle, it’s so awful even the actress who plays Belle hates the relationship. Why did Adam and Eddy make that a relationship at all? Rumple did nothing but lie and deceive Belle. He murdered Milah twice and now he can't respect Belle. It is honestly the most emotionally abusive relationship I have seen. These writers tried to shove it off as a dysfunctional relationship. It was that all right but it was very emotionally abusive and just really creepy. Rumple went so far as stalking Belle by putting a tracker bracelet on her and showed up at the library when Belle clearly didn't want him there. Belle honestly should have ended up with Ruby, Graham or Adam who was never introduced. Moving on from Rumblle up next the show's problems are how they treat their characters of color. Up until season seven there were no main characters of color. The characters were either one offs, or they died too soon. Rapunzel who was black appeared once and never mentioned again despite being a popular story, Gus Gus dies, Ursula basically a one off never seen again, Sydney a black man brought on and used as a slave or indentured servant depending on how you look at it either way bad. Tamera Neal's girlfriend killed off by Rumple, Mulan an Asian bisexual woman never got a happy ending but was there to cape for the white characters. The Dragon guy killed off, Merlyn dead, and many others have died as well. The next problem is the queer baiting on this show. This show took five seasons to give us a lgbtq couple and it was rushed, and they weren't seen again. The two most popular couples are Sleeping Warrior and Swan Queen. Sleeping Warrior was the closest thing to a healthy lgbtq interracial relationship. We were so close but nope Aurea had to get pregnant with Prince Philip's baby and they won't even let Mulan say she was in love with Aurea which really pisses me off because the writers have established her as bisexual but won't allow her a happy ending or a chance at true love. The only main canon lgbtq couple we got were Robbin and Alice. I think if Mulan were a white woman and in season 7 she would have gotten a happy ending and a wonderful love interest. (All though Mulan is Asian and should stay Asian because, I hate white washing) Swan Queen all though I am not big on it I do see why people ship it. All though can people take a minute and realize that Emma and Regina are step granddaughter and step grandmother? Then again Emma married her almost step father in law so this show is close to having incestuous relationship so why shouldn't they give Regina and Emma a chance? My biggest problem with the show is how Emma got treated like shit by the fandom and the writers. Emma who tried to save Marion's life had to apologize to Regina for "ruining her chances with Robin or making her life more complicated?" Excuse me but Regina was going to murder Emma as a baby, Regina is the whole reason Emma didn't have a family for 28 years of her life. Regina can drink a tall glass of STFU. Seriously these writers coddle the hell out of Regina and it is annoying as hell. As I said before Regina has kidnapped an entire town by cursing them, she raped Graham for 28 years and she mass murdered thousands upon thousands of people. Here these videos are a summary of all the messed up things Regina have done.www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q8bNf…. Then the writers have retconned Henry. He told Regina "You were the first person to love me." Excuse me but this kid was going to build an armory against her and ran away to Emma. Yeah Regina isn't abusive. Adam and Eddy also think that happy endings mean children and other true love. Really characters like Regina and Rumple should work hard to improve themselves but nope corners were crossed for those two and they got happy endings meanwhile good characters such as Mulan, Facillar, Milah, and many other characters who were actual good people didn't get a happy ending. Yet mass murdering rapists got happy endings that is so messed up. In conclusion Adam and Eddy are misogynistic assholes and have proven to be racist in their writing. They have also don't care about lgbtq people, male rape victims and the people of color on their show. I also found it really insulting that they portrayed women as incomplete if they couldn't bear children of their own. All in all, Once Upon a Time could have been a great show but instead it was mediocre.”

#4 Kanye West

If there were a contest on being the most arrogant and most full of yourself person Kanye would either win first place or he would take second to his in laws/his wife. He is colorist, he is an attention whore and he said that slavery is a choice. I hope he meant the mind set of slavery is a choice but I highly doubt it but I highly doubt it. He put a confederate flag on his clothing line. I have seen the price of his clothing is way too expensive. $200 for a shirt all because it says Yeeze? Then again there are purses that cost more than that just because the purse has the word Coach on it. His wife who isn’t even black takes things from black culture but never pays respect to the culture she is borrowing from and Kanye just supports this. Kanye has bashes other types music just because it is not his own and he is just so full of himself. He even said he supports Donald Trump which his right, but he probably said that for attention too. Anyways I have never really cared for Kanye I can’t say too much else about him.

#3 James Gunn

He directed both Guardians of the Galaxy movies which are both great. However, I don’t think he will be directing the third since he was recently fired over some ten-year-old tweets. Now tweets shouldn’t get someone fired but if you are making several jokes about pedophilia then that is probable cause to be to be fired. James Gunn made these tweets in his forties and never deleted them. First off why is James Gunn making several jokes about pedophile at the age of 40? He is now 50 and he didn’t use his common sense back then to know those are not things you joke about? Second why is that type of thing on his mind. He didn’t just make one joke about it he made several jokes about child molestation. If that is on his mind constantly then he needs to be psychologically evaluated. I honestly hope he hasn’t acted on the pedophilia because the fact that is something on his mind at age 40 is terrifying and he needs serious help.

#2 Robert Sylvester Kelly/R Kelly

He refers to himself as the Pied Piper of R&B. Which is ironically fitting since he the Pied Piper is known for kidnapping children. R Kelly is one of the most talented singers I have ever heard in my life. I listened to his music growing up. He “wrote” the song “I believe I can fly” and the song “Ignition” Now for those wondering why I put the word in qoutioans its because R Kelly is illiterate he can’t read or write. I am serious he is not dyslexic he has never learned to read or write according to his brother Carrey and Wendy William. Now as I said before R Kelly is one of the most talented singers but sadly he is also one of the most garbage human beings I have ever had the displeasure of hearing about. Where do I even start? There have been stories since the early 90’s of him being a predator. He would hang out at middle schools in Chicago as an adult picking up young girls, and promising[HK1] them money, gift cards and McDonalds. The girls he did get to come to his house he kept him them in their rooms or the basement, forced the girls to call him daddy and made them perform sexual acts on him. He pissed on a fourteen girl and married the singer Aaliyah when she was 15 and he was 27 at the time. In fact, for more detail about R Kelly and his creepy behavior here is a documentary of all the fucked-up things he did. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p060m6qx When R Kelly was 49 he dated a 19-year-old which wasn’t illegal but given his past history with girls that is just creepy. I also hate the fact he could afford to pay someone to teach him how to read and write but won’t because he used his money for lawyers and paid off the families of the girls he abused to keep them quiet. One day R Kelly will go to jail. I think the reason he stayed out of prison for so long are for two reasons. Number one he is famous and loads of money to pay people off and two he targets young black girls/women who are the least protected group in America. Anyways R Kelly needs to be in prison in solitary confinement until the day he dies. He is disgusting, and he is probably just as disgusting as my next choice for my number one pick.

#1 Gregory Daniel Jackson

He is better known by his YouTube alias Onision. He is a famous youtuber who tries to be like Shane Dawson in video style and in hair style. I put him on the list for the countless fucked-up things he has done to basically gain attention. He has met all his wives and his current wife over the internet while they were either 16 or 17. He was an adult at the time. He flies these women out to his house and has isolated them from their families. He put his first wife on blast because she didn’t want to have sex with him and gave out the number of partners she had as revenge for not wanting to have sex with him. The number was pretty high, then after treating her like garbage he left her several voice mails. If you don’t believe me here is the video of the “voice mails he left for her” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPnC3n2fpYs&t=1s . His second wife Shiloh lost three years of her memory and posted a video of her having a break down but apparently she was faking I am not entirely sure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz_9s9SgQao and then filmed her having a meltdown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7HcGsMb5PQ I am linking these videos as proof because Onision is just gross. He encouraged Lainey to get a girlfriend even though she/”they” (Lainey is nonbinary but Onision calls her she all the time so I am not sure what pronoun to use for Lainey so I used both) was not into it. He only encouraged it to for his benefit. He killed his pet turtle/tortoise and to this day he will not admit that he did it. He put his turtle in on the grass put a plastic container upside down over the turtle and left it in the sun for two hours. He never owns up to what he did wrong and when he does he always makes himself out to be the victim. He has made jokes on self-harm, 9/11 and sexual abuse. He has made fun of people who struggle with their weight, eating disorders. He says things but later goes on to deny them. Anyways, he isn’t worth watching but if you plan on watching his videos I advise you to watch with caution. I almost forgot to mention people have had to call animal control on his ass. I pray he goes to prison soon. He even had to get a lawyer to find out if his marriage to his wife was legal or not. He lied about being honorably discharged from the military. Anyways, Onision is a narcissist, a sociopath and psychopath. He needs to go to prison and he doesn’t need to be making youtube videos. I forgot to mention if you are a meat eater Onion boy will hate on you wish death on you and get on his high horse on he is better than you because he doesn’t eat meat. He has done that in the past.

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