#light skin indigenous
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thatneoncrisis · 17 days ago
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re whitewashing in tlt spaces. i feel like id be way more chill with seeing lighter toned harrow, bc at the end of the day she IS lightskinned you can just look at the cover of nona and that whole "skin the color egg carton" this is like. fanciful and kind of strange if your mind goes to the white or grey ones but like
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absolutely within the range of human skin tones. its tan but its not like a dark chocolate brown. gives you enough to work with. but on top of just making harrow incredibly pale a lot of the time she is just. drawn like a white girl. just zero indication that she isnt entirely pakeha let alone maori if you didnt already have that info in your back pocket.
and so much shit contributes to this its tazs descriptions in the book just focusing on how pointy and scrawny she is, its fanartists not really getting the nuances of how to draw poc outside of "white person" and "black person", its the fact that irl maori obviously have a vast array of different ways they can look and some of them can be white passing and that doesnt make them less maori, its that fact coming into conflict where in a book if you have a main character you say is maori but is lightskinned, white passing and has zero connection to maori culture, language, and wasnt even born on earth and its been 10000 years since that particular ethnic group has even existed. what does that mean. how would the text change if she was just pakeha
#im zeroing in on harrow bc like#gideon has a connection to her father who like. was straight up born in new zealand#out the gate he gave her a maori name when he claimed her as his daughter its like relevant to whats going on#re john being an indigenous character who like. did an extinction event#he is directly responsible to the eradication of his own culture everyone in the empire speaks english!#if they werent then gideons name would have already been kiriona no need to translate!#its kind of horrifying in an interesting way that the only shit he thought was worth preserving And sharing with everyone was like#neoclassicism. but with more bones and biblical allegories#its all just greece and rome all the way down the only thing his daughter gets is a name its so. GAH. FROTHING AT THE MOUTH#and then the camera pans to harrow and its like. well this affects her too right. this affects everyone if shes also maori then shes also#been denied her heritage her language her people her customs they jsut dont fucking exist#and then on top of that shes canonically light skinned and there can be#nebulous arguments made for her being white passing or racially ambigiuos. the artist for the covers takes liberties i genuinely dont think#harrow looks like how he drew nona. that is a different girl. even if we get rid of the smile#i dont think this is like a condemnation of the text or the author or even the fans really#but its like. god imagine if this angle about being maori as an active identity was like. in the books. at all#its like how the books have gay poeple but the queer angle is all necrocav shit gideon being a lesbian isnt like. revolutionary#thats not why her attachment to harrow is like. interesting or nuanced.
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rebellum · 1 year ago
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Full on saying "sex based oppression isn't real, that's a radfem talking point" seems like way too much to me. Like, it IS real. Every single person who was assigned female at birth, or who is considered to be female bodied in any way (so, including eg trans fems who may be considered female bodied due to surgery, intersex people who were maybe assigned as female later on in life), is oppressed because of that. That's an inarguable fact.
But that doesn't mean every single person who was assigned male at birth oppresses every single person assigned female at birth through the axis of sex. Like, obviously trans people who were amab don't have more social privilege as a group than cis gender conforming women.
Both things can be true at once.
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starlightseraph · 2 months ago
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no way they’re trying to arrest literal indigenous americans 😭
where are you gonna send them, fucking beringia?
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lesbow · 1 year ago
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While the teaser trailer for the live action looks fantastic and the stills released on Twitter look amazing (APPA LOOKS SO GOOD!!!), I just cannot and don’t think I ever will get over Katara and Sokka having immensely lighter skin compared to their animated originals.
I’m not gonna go into the Ian Ousley Situation™️, but just wanted to speak on the colorist choice to cast paler indigenous actors for darker skin roles. This is no hate to the kids, but indigenous peoples (including Asian-based communities) with brown/darker skin do exist and it’s unfortunate that both live action adaptations fail to acknowledge them.
And before my notifications start getting spammed with that SAME picture of Kiawentiio sitting under the warmest toned lighting possible at a convention, the trailer and released stills have now shown us what they will look like in the actual show. Regardless of lighting, Katara and Sokka were very visibly brown and darker than Aang and Zuko in the original show. Not simply one shade tanner, but brown and this is an important distinction.
I make this post just as a reminder that while the trailer looks promising, and it’s good actual Asian and Indigenous actors were cast (mostly), colorism is still a very real problem that shouldn’t be ignored or dismissed.
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piratebay · 25 days ago
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every day i'm grateful that i didn't turn out a hateful colorist fascist. i was very much not aware of the scope of harm i disseminated to others and internalized as a pre/teen.
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toxicshipsincorporated · 1 year ago
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Gonna be real real rn. I've been seeing ppl talk about the dissatisfaction that the actors cast to play the watertribe characters are much lighter than their animated counterparts as being an example of colorism and I need yall to stop that.
That's not what that is. I am a light-skinned indigenous person who understands the privilege that I hold because of the way people perceive me. I would never take a role/position for a character or meant for a person of a darker complexion. Because I know that I am visually more palatable simply because of the color of my skin and that is a prejudice I do not feel comfortable benefiting from. With that being the actors for Katara and Sokka are younger who knows what their agents and the people around them said. Whatever. But people saying, "hey the original character design had them as much darker than the actors that you cast. That is suspect and you should have cast a more accurate cast for these roles." That is CALLING OUT COLORISM for ppl who are not aware.
Now the chucklefucks saying some variation of, "these actors don't even LOOK native!!" Is ALSO not colorism. It's just good ole anti-indigenous racism baby. Yes, yes, it can be internalized.
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headgear-smelvin-fart · 5 months ago
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ty so much for supporting my posts btw :) I feel like I dont thank u enough lol. btw, Melanie comes from Dominican and Puerto Rican descent, so she isn't white, she's Latina
oh np! I realized embarrassingly recently how wrong and gross everything surrounding the situation is, how all the arguments against Timothy (and Madeleine!) are just bs and victim-blaming. I'm now working hard to show support for Timothy and other victims, and to combat the army of (mostly child) fans spewing rape apologia everywhere. it's beyond infuriating what Melanie and fans (looking especially at The Crow, a full entire adult) have done not only to Melanie's victims, but to victims everywhere.
(regarding Melanie's race, I'm not exactly sure but I've seen many ppl saying she's white + Latina, like ethnically Latina and racially white, but I don't know, they're at least white passing given everyone who's surprised to hear they're Latina at all ig. doesn't matter for the situation tho ofc, and I'm certainly not confident I actually know myself)
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normal-thoughts-official · 7 months ago
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So I'm a teacher and I'm going to use cubecraft paper toys (you know those little guys you print, cut, and then glue together to make little toys? that) for a geometry class. So far I've been able to find:
3 aliens (child friendly)
5 aliens (from wildly inappropriate for kids media)
2 amogus
12 different fictional dogs, cats, etc
7 characters I've never heard of in my life
6 characters from adult-ish media well beyond the usual age of paper toy users
0 Black women
And I'll give one chance to figure out which of these I was actually looking for
Like. IDK the whole "forced diversity" discourse is stupid and we all know this but it really drives home how stupid it is whenever I try to use something based on children's media for my classes and I have to fight for my LIFE to find anything that's not a white man or a dainty princessy white woman for them. It's seriously annoying
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ellynneversweet · 2 years ago
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Look the Disney live action remakes are, as a general rule, not even worth acknowledging, and there’s something wrong with adults who take the time to argue about them, but I didn’t expect Netflix to come out swinging with a steel chair.
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fivepercentgodsandearths · 2 years ago
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Show and Prove Recap
June 9-11, 2023
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usaigi · 2 years ago
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some of y'all need to learn the difference between whitewashing and colorism
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starry-heavens · 2 years ago
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I mean really
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It's not that hard. Rin may be my only poc character, but all I did was use the eyedropper tool plus making it a bit darker than what the tool picked up, to get the color of her skin.
The same with my skykid
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The hair is the only thing I really have trouble getting right consistently in terms of style and color
I might recolor my latest Lively Navigator fanart with a skin tone closer to what I think they would have had when alive. No it won't be white or pale. Probably closer to the skin tone of like....the characters in Moana (best fictional example I could come up with 😅)
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cabbagegunk · 2 years ago
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hey my advice is drop your irls and also that you should go apeshit that is fucked up
well the thing is i study video games. so my cohort is mainly white gamers! please ignore the blood in my mouth this is normal
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evil-flesh-eating-ai · 3 months ago
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G-d to me is the sky. G-d to me is the ocean. G-d to me is the ground. G-d to me is intersexuality. G-d to me is transgenderism. G-d to me is lesbianism and queerness and pride and joy of the self and man and woman and both and neither and myself and you and us and we.
G-d to me is faith and trust and love and feeding my loved ones to make sure they’re full and happy and cared for.
G-d is the feeling of my partners skin on mine and the feeling of warmth in bed and the feeling of good soup in my stomach and the feeling of my mother laughing and the feeling of my fathers approval.
G-d to me is nature and the machine and the flesh and the divine and the air and space and the unknown and the knowledge that one way or another things will be okay because we all have a soul that means something.
G-d to me is making latkes with my sister for my first hanukkah, even though she isn’t jewish she does what she can to support me and my love and my self.
G-d to me is good books and good music and art that makes me cry and language that makes me laugh and fibre of my clothing and thread of my arts and the beads of my jewelry and the light of my candles and the warmth of my blankets.
G-d to me is the hebrew that i want to learn and the english that is all i know and the french of my great grandmother and the indigenous language of my ancestors and the portuguese of my friend and the ukrainian of my classmate and whispers of my lover.
G-d is me and you and us and we and together and apart and i love him, her, them, it, us, we.
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sharpth1ng · 5 months ago
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Oh my god I feel crazy having to say this but I've just witnessed an interaction that made it feel necessary. If someone tells you they're native and you think they look too white or too black to be really native please fucking educate yourself?
My great aunts were literally sold to white americans as pre-teens. Why do you think their children look white?
And when enslaved people escaped their oppressors which communities do you think were safe for them to go to? At least in my area Native history and Black history is inextricably linked.
Native people can have light skin and eyes. Native people can have dark skin and curly hair. If someone is mixed, they're mixed. Don't erase their Indigenous identity.
Even non-mixed Natives have a variety of skin tones and hair textures. It's not up to people outside our communities to decide who is or isn't Native.
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barbasbackside · 5 months ago
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Yes! I've mentioned this before but Raúl has made me feel so seen and represented as a bisexual Latina in a way I have never felt before—especially with his performance as Rafael Barba—even though him and Barba are prly very different compared to me. Idk what it is but he's managed to reach into the depths of my soul and made me feel... special in a way. I'm finding it hard to put the feeling into words, but he makes me feel at home, every time I see him.
Representation matters ❤️
I hope Raúl knows how special he is.
Like he's done so much, and I hope he's proud of himself. I hope he looks back at everything he's done and goes "god, I am so amazing!"
I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks Raúl is such an inspirational person and I hope he realizes that. I hope he wakes up one day feeling absolutely amazing about himself. Like he's one of a kind. Because in a sense, he is. It's not often you'll find someone like him. He's done a lot with himself and I hope that one day I also get to do a lot with myself. And maybe I will, eventually, but knowing how I am I'd be too afraid to try new things. 😂
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