#lgb tease

[forsapphics]

THE L WORD (2004 - 2009) · S05, E01: LGB Tease — dir. Angela Robinson

[charlotslav]

Can I sit on your face tonight🤤💦

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[bifuriouswaterbender]

Careless Man

Written for the September @steddiemicrofic challenge "charm." 548 words. Rated T.

Eddie chuckled as he came downstairs.

"Don't," Steve warned.

"What?" Eddie asked, voice dripping with fake innocence.

"Don't say anything," Steve snapped.

"Anything?" Eddie repeated as he plopped down into the chair across from Steve. "What would I possible have to say at a time like this? How could I possibly have a comment about the fact that you and Megan already spent several hours making charm bracelets, and now that she's in bed, here you are still making them."

Steve glared at his husband before relenting with a sigh. "I wasn't ready to sleep. Besides, she was worried we may not have enough to make a good showing for trades. I figured it wouldn't hurt to make more."

"Because your nimble fingers work so fast at stuff like this at your ripe old age," Eddie teased. Still, he reached out for one of the colored elastic choices Steve had picked up in anticipation of Megan's arrival. "You may have gone a little overboard in the choices."

Steve shrugged, then swore slightly as he dropped another bead. He left it on the floor for now. He'd clean up properly in a few days. "Better to have too many choices than too few." He gestured toward the large stack he and Megan had made earlier and the notepad sitting next to it. "We're trying not to remake any songs, so here's the list. We have some we still wanted to make that we figured out early. Make some of those."

"Yes sir," Eddie teased as he scanned the list. "You haven't made a 123 LGB yet?"

Steve groaned as he dropped another bead. He had so many to pick up. "We had a lot of ideas, and Megan wanted to focus on more original lyric ideas first. Also, I had to make every single dad related bracelet idea we could come up with."

Eddie fully let out a giggle as he narrowed down his color options and started threading them onto his string. He'd also lost a little dexterity over the years, but those nimble guitar fingers still worked much quicker than Steve's.

They worked for another hour before Eddie stood with a stretch and went around to stand behind Steve. "I think it's time to turn in, sweetheart." He reached out to rub Steve's shoulders.

Steve let out a contented sigh at the action before leaning back, head against Eddie's chest as he looked up. "I wish you were coming with us."

Eddie dug in with his thumbs in a way that he knew Steve loved. "It would be fun, yeah, but with tickets being the way they were, I don't mind. Besides, you two don't get to do a lot just the two of you. And when she was so excited to go with you and not her friends? How can I jump in on that."

Steve offered his husband a tender smile. "I mean I took her to all the others."

"Yeah, but she wasn't a grown woman for any of those. She wants to go with you. I'm happy to let that happy." A mischievous smile crossed Eddie's face. "Mr. Heartbreak Dad."

Steve laughed as he reached up for Eddie cheek to coax him down for a kiss. "That's The Heartbreak Dad to you, loverboy."

[vintage-bentley]

I’m braving the GO tag and seeing a lot of typical gendie style “if I see another person call it queerbaiting I’m bashing their kneecaps in/biting them/other various stupid acts of violence”.

And it’s really bringing home to me how much of a mistake the term “queerbaiting” was.

Because it was never meant to mean “queer” in the modern sense. It was specifically made to refer to the phenomenon of media teasing a same sex romance to get representation starved LGB people hooked…and leading us on for nothing.

It was made to discuss the issue of the lack of LGB representation, and the way that creators will use this to their advantage by baiting us with representation that they have no intentions on ever giving us.

But because it’s called “queerbaiting”, and the modern use of “queer” basically just means straight people who want to be special…it’s practically turned into a term that can never be used again.

Because the very phenomenon that the term exists to describe, is now considered “representation”. Teasing a same sex romance is no longer able to be considered bait, because actually it’s super validating to aces and aros (see: straight people who don’t like hook up culture). If it’s not representation for them, it’ll be representation for “queer platonic people” (aka friends). If not for them, it’ll be representation for gender havers. And so on.

Basically, the term “queerbaiting”, like so many other words we have, has been taken from us. Just like with many things regarding LGB people, we can no longer have a productive conversation about it, because straight people have inserted themselves into the conversations and crowned themselves the authority.

We’ll have to be more specific when we talk about baiting. Just like we have to be specific when talking about sexuality (clarifying we mean female homosexual when we say lesbian, for example), we’ll have to be very specific about the phenomenon we’re discussing when pointing out how typical of a bait scenario GO is. It’s not “queerbaiting”, don’t use that word and open the door for straight “queers” to talk over you. Specify that you are talking about the distinct treatment of LGB fans, whose desperation for representation is often taken advantage of.

[queerstuffonscreen]

The L World (2004-2009)

Episode length: 50 min.

Country: USA

Genre: Drama

Language: English

Follows the lives and loves of a small, close-knit group of lesbian women living in Los Angeles as well as the friends and family members that either support or loathe them.

Season 1

Episode 1: Pilot Part 1

Episode 2: Pilot Part 2

Episode 3: Let's Do It

Episode 4: Longing

Episode 5: Lies, Lies, Lies

Episode 6: Lawfully

Episode 7: Losing It

Episode 8: L'Ennui

Episode 9: Listen Up

Episode 10: Luck, Next Time

Episode 11: Liberally

Episode 12: Looking Back

Episode 13: Locked Up

Episode 14: Limb from Limb

Season 2

Episode 1: Life, Loss, Leaving

Episode 2: Lap Dance

Episode 3: Loneliest Number

Episode 4: Lynch Pin

Episode 5: Labyrinth

Episode 6: Lagrimas de Oro

Episode 7: Luminous

Episode 8: Loyal

Episode 9: Late, Later, Latent

Episode 10: Land Ahoy

Episode 11: Loud and Proud

Episode 12: L'Chaim

Episode 13: Lacuna

Season 3

Episode 1: Labia Majora

Episode 2: Lost Weekend

Episode 3: Lobsters

Episode 4: Light My Fire

Episode 5: Lifeline

Episode 6: Lifesize

Episode 7: Lone Star

Episode 8: Latecomer

Episode 9: Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way

Episode 10: Losing the Light

Episode 11: Last Dance

Episode 12: Left Hand of the Goddess

Season 4

Episode 1: Legend in the Making

Episode 2: Livin' La Vida Loca

Episode 3: Lassoed

Episode 4: Layup

Episode 5: Lez Girls

Episode 6: Luck Be a Lady

Episode 7: Lesson Number One

Episode 8: Lexington & Concord

Episode 9: Lacy Lilting Lyrics

Episode 10: Little Boy Blue

Episode 11: Literary License To Kill

Episode 12: Long Time Coming

Season 5

Episode 1: LGB Tease

Episode 2: Look Out, Here They Come!

Episode 3: Lady of the Lake

Episode 4: Let's Get This Party Started

Episode 5: Lookin' At You, Kid

Episode 6: Lights! Camera! Action!

Episode 7: Lesbians Gone Wild

Episode 8: Lay Down the Law

Episode 9: Liquid Heat

Episode 10: Lifecycle

Episode 11: Lunar Cycle

Episode 12: Loyal and True

Season 6

Episode 1: Long Night's Journey Into Day

Episode 2: Least Likely

Episode 3: LMFAO

Episode 4: Leaving Los Angeles

Episode 5: Litmus Test

Episode 6: Lactose Intolerant

Episode 7: Last Couple Standing

Episode 8: Last Word

Watch on Hulu

[lesbianp1lled]

I don’t know if I’m a lesbian.

I grew up in a very homophobic household and was taught that homosexuality is wrong and that I have to marry a man and what not. I had my very first crush on a girl when I was 10. I would get that butterflies in stomach feeling when I was around her. At the time I didn’t understand why I was feeling that way since I was taught that I have to like men.

In middle school, I befriended a lot of lgb kids and learned what a lesbian was. I thought the idea of being a lesbian was not possible and that I would like a man one day. But I just couldn’t. I found all the guys in my grade repulsive and gross. Whenever my friends would talk about their crushes or boyfriends I would tune them out and ignore them because I didn’t care about men. Whenever a guy would have a crush on me It was make me gag. I told myself it’s just a phase, I’ll get over it. It was like this for me all of high school as well.

Years go by and I’m in my early 20s. I had never been in a relationship or had a crush on a guy yet. I’ve only felt that butterfly feeling with women and I was getting frustrated with myself. My parents told me that I seriously needed to find a man and settle down already. When I started working at a fast food restaurant, I did befriend one guy. We got along great and I even considered him a close friend which was rare because all of my closest friends were females. My co-workers and the managers would tease me about him and ask me if I had a crush on him and I would tell them no because I didn’t. A lot of my co-workers and managers would tell me to date him and that he was perfect for me. I knew he had a crush on me and I felt bad that I was possibly leading him on. He did eventually ask me out and I said yes for the sake of finally dating one guy. The relationship literally only lasted 1 week before I dumped him over text. I just couldn’t date him. He would try to kiss me and I would push him away. He would call me pet names like babygirl and sweetheart and I would cringe. I felt bad for dumping him over text but also feel good because I felt like I was in shackles dating a man. My co-workers noticed how me and him weren’t speaking anymore and had asked me what happened between us. I just tell them we didn’t get along.

I’m very tired of being confused about my sexuality. I can’t talk about this to my family or they’ll disown me and kick me out of the house. I can’t talk about this with my female friends either because none of them are lesbians. I’m very isolated.

I’m sorry you feel isolated, my dms are always open so you could message me on here!

You do sound like a lesbian to me, I’m just sad you thought u had to say yes to that guy when you didn’t like him. You don’t owe anyone anything.

This has always been a problem for me when befriending straight guys, in that they say they have a crush on you and when you say no the friendship is ruined.

[cordycepsfem]

you're right, it's not LGBT. But that's because it's LGBTQIA+

It's not. Intersex people have been begging you to stop including them. They have medical conditions that are usually - almost 100% - ignored in favor of them being a "gotcha" in regards to gender issues, and having a DSD (the proper term for "intersex" conditions) is not the same as a sexual orientation. It would be like adding a D for "diabetes." (Can't wait until that happens now that I've spoken it into the world.)

"Queer" might as well mean "spicy straight" for all it's worth.

However, "something tells me that they weren't too concerned about whether characters on TV didn't fuck". Bro many lgb people feel shitty abt themselves because boyxgirl couple romances are the only thing they see in media (i can testify, because i'm literally bisexual), so they feel like they aren't "normal". How is this any different to aspec people who feel under represented and "weird" because they arenr shown in media?

From the the post above:

Well, it's something like this: you see all these love stories in films, in shows, in books. Man and woman fall in love, get married and live happily ever after, the end. You don't see yourself in any of these stories

I don't ever see anyone who looks like me or represents my life experiences in media. Somehow I've managed to survive many long years. I enjoy many types of media and I have a good life. The representation of different types of people in media is important, and I of course would love to see more representation of minorities and non-heterosexual orientations, especially accurate portrayals of disability, but when that is the opening salvo to a "why I am oppressed" list, like... c'mon.

Also i really don't appreciate you dumbing their emotions down to simply "feeling awkward" or "uncomfortable".

Once again:

You have a friend of the opposite sex and your family teases you for having a boyfriend/girlfriend, and it feels Wrong. You get a little older and many of your friends start obsessing over the opposite sex, and maybe you join in, fake it, play along, but deep down you know you know that you aren't like them. You are Different. You don't feel that way, you don't know if you ever will, if you even can. You feel Broken. Incomplete. Incapable of loving the way everyone seems to be saying you should.

It feels wrong (sorry, should I have said that instead of "uncomfortable" or "awkward"?) to not be in a relationship, or when one's family teases them. "Your friends start obsessing over the opposite sex" - and? "Everyone seems to be saying you should" do something isn't a reason you need to do it. Social pressure is a real thing, but again, as a second refrain to an opening salvo about a lack of media representation, I once again find it falling short.

also, "it has a purpose and a very clear criteria for entering" well first of all, there is literally no set criteria. and second of all, "it has a purpose" yes and the purpose is to welcome people who have felt invalid due to society's standards of the perfect romance.

Yes, it no longer has a criteria because it's been taken over by "people who have felt invalid due to society's standards of the perfect romance." What the fuck, my dude? By this standard people who feel like their marriage isn't good enough because their spouse doesn't do roses and champagne on their anniversary or won't let them wear leather and do whip stuff, people who never married due to one reason or another but really wanted to, and every single person who divorced is now "queer." And you wonder why we need criteria. When everyone is queer, no one will be.

There are many societies and all of them have different qualifications for what a "perfect romance" might look like. A "perfect romance" to my Latina friend's family is not the same as a "perfect romance" to my Catholic grandmother which is not the same as a "perfect romance" to the Amish. How do we judge what society and what perfect romance is the standard, or are you suggesting that all of these people now fall into the LGalphabet group?

The criteria is same-sex attraction, not "Oh I feel left out how SAD let me into a special group." T was added at the time because it was understood that many/most transsexual people were gay... but now I guess you're right, it is mostly meaningless, since most trans people are straight.

by the way: you talk as if the arrival of aspec people will suddenly erase other sexualities from importance. this is not the case, please listen to me

By the way: I do not believe this because being asexual is not a sexual orientation. Not feeling sexual attraction is not an attraction to the same sex or both sexes, which is the criteria for having a sexuality. And "aromantic" - so you fuck without emotional attachment? That's disrespectful to your partner and potentially a sign of an emotional disorder, also not a sexual orientation. Also, having "romantic" orientations is - wait for it - supporting the split attraction model, which is - wait for it - homophobic.

Listen, it's cool. Take all the non-SSA folks and make your own thing. Face your "lack of media representation" and "people upset about not having a perfect romance" and make that your community. That's fine if that's what you want. It's okay to build a community around those things. It's just not the LGBT community. It doesn't have the same goals, it's not looking out for the same dangers, it's not facing the same oppression around the world. That's okay. We have different groups for different things - nobody's asking a breast cancer charity to also solve hunger in Africa.

My attention is directed exactly where I want it to be, and just because that's not on this particular cause doesn't mean it's misdirected - it means I find certain things to be more compelling and deserving of my time and effort.

i’m seeing a lot of “aromantic” crap on my feed, so i’m gonna make a post about and make it all y’all’s problem:

if you do not experience same-sex attraction, THEN YOU’RE NOT OPPRESSED FOR YOUR SEXUALITY AND SHOULD GO FUCKING TOUCH SOME FUCKING GRASS. stop trying to force yourself into the lgb community you freaks. leave them alone.

[imdawndenbo]

What? I’m not looking at Bette.

[tayloralison]

the past few days, I've seen a lot of posts about the negative effects of taylor being on tumblr (self rebloggers, not being able to voice opinions, etc) and it's very valid but imo no one talks about the good times ? how 123 lgb started from one fan posting a video here. taylor interacting with edits or analysis of her work. back and forth teasing of five holes in the fence. or that day idk what she was on but all those paddington bear posts. one of my fave moments was soon after covid hit, a lot of people were in need of money and the blondie stans were reblogging each other's paypal posts, supporting each other, and some of which resulted in taylor donating. of course, at times the vibe wasn't healthy but imo it had some fun and wholesome moments too

[lesbianmarrow]

Its truly insulting and homophobic how after a year of No Homo-ing Zari and Charlie they said oh but in this new timeline Charlie and Behrad hooked up.

Also Nate would totally be into Behrad, if only he was a Girl.

Like. What.

i think that might be a bit of a reach honestly....i also was rooting for zarlie in season 4 but the show never tries to deny the existence of charlie's attraction to zari. it just doesn't have charlie actively pursuing zari outside of a little bit of flirting and teasing, which is totally reasonable from both an in-universe and out-of-universe standpoint. charlie is zari's friend, she doesn't want to homewreck her (much as i would love to see that). if zari had displayed more overt interest in charlie then that probably would have undercut the strength of the zari/nate relationship which the show was trying so hard to emphasize. which is something i personally would have been fine with, but it would have made for worse and less cohesive writing. i don't have a problem with how the zari/charlie stuff was handled in season 4, even if it wasn't entirely what i personally would have wanted.

similarly i don't think the behrad/charlie fling is offensive in the way that you're saying....like it doesn't feel to me like the show is saying "charlie can't hook up with zari bc shes a girl but she can hook up with behrad bc hes a boy" bc it felt obvious to me that charlie WOULD have hooked up with zari if circumstances had been different in season 4. like it doesn't feel like an erasure of charlie's bisexuality to me. i would kind of like to see more of an emphasis on charlie's attraction to women, like it feels like she remarks on being attracted to all these men (nate, sanjay, david bowie, behrad) but the only woman she's ever really shown interest in is zari (two versions of her, but still). with sara in a relationship with ava it's not like the show is starving for representation of bi women with women but still....charlie is just really hot when shes hitting on women ok!!!!!!

overall i get your complaint about the show giving us behrad/charlie fling instead of zarlie but i think the reasons it doesnt bother me so much are 1. charlie is still clearly bisexual and 2. the show already has a lot of lgb(still no t!) representation, and specifically has really great bisexual representation, and i think that does make a difference.

(now does this show have an issue with most of its gay & bi representation being white, and does charlie unfairly bear the responsibility of being the only nonwhite queer representation on the show? i would say yes. but that's another discussion)

the joke of nate saying he would be into behrad if he was a girl, though......that's another one of those no homo jokes i often don't like. in this context i don't mind it as much bc the joke is that nate is saying that he's into zari. but idk whenever they sort of joke that nate might be into his male friends only to assert that he definitely isn't, i just don't like that very much.

[once-upon-a-tommorow]

Title: Fair and Square

(⚠️TW For my followers: vore)

A Pred POV From Jac's perspective.

🔸Audience: 17+ but still sfw, mainly because of the swearing and bad corny satire comedy🔸tw religious mention🔸capslock tw🔸safe v/ore.🔸 Half-size prey🔸 half willing prey🔸teasing Monster Pred 🔸 Nonbinary masc pred and prey🔸 and both are Ace Romantic partners so yay for /lgb/tqia r/epresentation 🔸

⚠️I'd like to consider this a professional s/hitpost because it is a experimentation and a introduction to something I have been loosely working on for two years (at some point I'll make a backstory post), this was all made for fun so when you come to my circus expect to see clowns, now for their names \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

Additional character Info: [Pred (Jac) is a

C/apricorn Siren Hybrid. age 21. (He can turn into a human form but he chooses not to most of the time unless it's for ash because who tf would wanna be human in a time like this?]

[prey (ash) is a Werewolf. age 19.]

[Side character roommate: brenda a  talking black cat whose kinda sketchy. Age unknown.]

And just in case you are extra nerdy for my halfwit characters here is their voice headcanons:

Here's art I made of them: (update: I'm taking the art off this post because if Tumblr pulls any sh*t with turning everyone's stuff into a NF.T leave my work the hell out of it.)

Jac: (Not the intro radio guy but the main singer)

Ash:

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𝕹𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖆𝖙𝖔𝖗: Deep far into in the woods you couldn't tell if if left was right or right was left, it was all but seemingly endless dead leaves that would crumble under your feet and the twisted jagged trees that reach into the sky like lightning in reverse, it was always cold, the only sounds were the sound of wind tossing the leaves and the occasional caw of a lone crow, but if you walked deep enough into those old woods you would find what only felt like a displaced fever dream..a victorian house, standing alone, at first glance it looked abandoned that with the ivy which climbed the walls and the boarded up windows and tattered curtains, who could possibly live in a house this....trashy..but yet: In the dead of the night you could see the faint glimmer of a light being turned on.. there have been many foolish enough to come to this porch, come to this door, mostly jehovah's witnesses... How they managed to find the address is another mystery we will not question..like why is there a house out in the woods? I DON'T KNOW? WHOEVER BUILT IT MUST HAVE BEEN THE G/RINCH OF THAT ERA; but whoever did come to the house was greeted at the door by a gentleman of a short stature, he seemed so well kept together almost as if he matched the house which was weird considering it was the 21st century, but when you came into that house as soon as the door went shut your fate was sealed...and by fate I mean these criminals were going to either force you to join their peculiar gang or they were going to knock you out cold and drag you off to a secluded location where you would never find them again..the tallest one was usually the one to do this..but how he went about knocking them out is well.... that's not important right now, right now that tall bastard by the name of Jac was creeping through the hallway to surprise greet the gentleman named ash which we mentioned before...but why?...Well... There is going to be a lot of why's and similar to a/lice in w/onderland we might just not have them all so maybe going into the mind of this madman will clear some things up...hopefully....... I'll probably be coming back later...he has me held hos---.

Jac: "This is going to be so much fun."

𝕹𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖆𝖙𝖔𝖗: he says.......

Jac: why am I hearing voices?....eh the medications probably failed me again like they always do... either that or it's that one creepy guy in the attic who accounts for everything I say in grand description... he's probably some sorta spy... he'll be dessert...

𝕹𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖆𝖙𝖔𝖗: he slowly-................ ahem...uh...he slowly slides his hoof like hand across the old-fashioned wallpaper.. It was rich purple and green striped with golden stripes separating the two other colors, it looked faded from age and was beginning to peel, jac had to be careful not to knock over all the picture frames and fedoras that hung lining the main hall past the lobby or ash would know...ash knows everything is in a certain place and it has been like that..for a very long time..he doesn't want anything changed... nothing can ever be changed *vague soft sobbing*-

Jac: would ya just get on with it man? I mean even the clock has had it with all your yappin and now it's tickin too fast because you're given it anxiety, chop-CHOP!

𝕹𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖆𝖙𝖔𝖗: his steps drew heavy on the old dusty wooden flooring with nothing but a cheap rug covering the hall, underneath they creaked as if they were going to cave in. He finally reached the doorway peering in, in anticipating seeing the middle aged maelstrom of a mind that was his belov-ed.

Jac:

"You were workin with your papers like ya always did, so engrossed in whatever nonsense you were writin

I SAY AS A PAPER FALLS CASUALLY FROM THE CEILING

That you were Blissfully Unaware of who was watching you.. oh how could-I help myself, you were such a square,

You always used such big words all the time to be emphasizin whatever crap you were tryna say to everybody that could have been easily said in like.....not 10 minutes, but NAH, you had to be all Fancy wit it like you always do with everything..and maybe that's why I like........no.....LOVE you.."

𝕹𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖆𝖙𝖔𝖗: like me?

Jac: yes you, ya fuckin lunatic, now quit writing about our life and stalking me through the attic, it's gettin kinda weird, you're really that bored that you have to write our memoirs?

Ash: and a very royal f-ck you to you too. *And than he falls from a hole in the ceiling and scatters over to sit on his chair at his work desk like nothing happened* you know I haven't left this place in a month since my last arrest and you know we can't get wifi.

Jac: I didn't know it's been a month...wow TIME MOVES FAST WHEN YOU DON'T GIVE AF.

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(narration has switched to jac now) jac POV:

Author: From this point ash won't hear anything jac is thinking and "" marks will be used when something is said aloud or as their normal function (have fun with trying to figure that one out, as my writing style fluctuates. ;)

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Jac: Now ash........ya had this word...how do I say it...?

"Sapio somethin"..I donno, it meant being attracted to smartiepants like yourself...but you can't outsmart me this time...

He hadn't gotten any sleep, it was 3am, I really oughta do this guy a favor, so I grab onto the back of the collar of your shirt and drag you backwards in your chair with force, now our eyes are meetin except you are looking at me upsidedown, heh heh heh, now your bangs are a mess from the gravity...of the situation.. har har funny joke, but that wasn't as funny as your response

"What are you doing" you ask

WhAT AM I DOING?

WITH YOU?

At 3am.......hmmm so many things to do alone at night..... And I just say like a jackass "nothing.  What are you doing up this late?"

"You didn't answer my question" ash says,

As if me giving him a answer is going to spare him any less, So I tell him: "I gotta be frank wit you pumpkin, I don't know, I was getting up for a latenight snack, and low and behold..the fridge was empty..and suddenly I found myself here......pretty weird if you ask me"

Ash: if you were coming from the kitchen than you wouldn't have needed to come down the hall from the lobby, I find that suspicious.

Jac: And I don't answer him and stare at him with a dopey smile on my face and he gives me the look...ya know..."the look" like..... W/ednesday a/dams.. after her brother just stole her doll. But he was so small that I couldn't take it seriously..I mean coMON, he's practically the size of a doll to me, he was the doll, I can take him...........whole. I come closer closin in on him holding him down to the chair with my hoof and his face still doesn't change and suddenly things start getting animated and by animated I mean ash started movin, like, a lot, he was going all over the place, putting up such a fit, and yet he couldn't get away, he started makin all kinds of weird snarlly noises..heh..might wanna get that checked out...I think the motor in his little head is broken... "YOU RASCAL, YOU RAGAMUFFIN BARBARIAN"

he shouts, "ah yes, all my favorite nicknames," I say "comon little fella, give another to me, I dare you."

"MONSTEROUS BABOON"

"Oh shit" I say "you have such a way with words. Now tell me in great detail what words you'll come up with as my dinner"

And than he really lost it, he managed to get out of the chair and started running.. I'm 14ft tall... He is 5ft2.. this guy ain't gettin far anytime fast..is that how ya say it? Hell if know, NOW TIME TO PLAY TAG!, The house was.. well he said it was a "victorian mansion", but by the looks of it to me it was basically like navigating a small storage shed, and it would probably be haunted if it wasn't for me scaring everyone away like I always do...but why do I...eh, hell if know..I don't know anything when he's around.........he ran around the house like a wind up mouse slamming Into things as soon as he saw me edge the corner. "All this production" I say "what is this? FastFood and a movie?"

And than he blurts out "YOU AIN'T GETTING ME BITCH!!!, AND THE CORRECT TERM IS "DINNER AND A SHOW" YOU HALFWIT BLOKE"

oh and now he's correcting me, I feel like a smarter man now "THANKS BUDDY!, NOW I'LL FINALLY BE ABLE TO FINISH COLLEGE"

That's it, he's gonna get it.

He looked like he was about to say something as he angrily looks back at me but than trips on his pointy toed a/cademia shoes and now at a snails pace I finally catch up to him, laying on the living room floor next to our broken vintage shitty Rabbit-Eared excuse of a TV.

But than our cat brenda gets in front of him and is all like "THAT DEADASS CHUMP IS MINE", And of course, I civilly toss her out the window... behind the couch....not sure where she went but I could care less as I pick ash up from his face plummeted position off the floor as he digs his nails into it leavin sharp nail marks all the way across it, I lick my lips,

"MIne all m i n e~...haHaHAHA!" and than he kicks me in the face and I feel offended but than remember that he doesn't stand a chance and I heartily laugh "woe to you little wolf, woe to whom attempt to defeat me with your skINNY twig leg, that I could easily break like a pocky stick if I wasn't so kind" and than he sCREAMS

"YOU'RE A BASTARD AND YOU'RE GLUTTONOUS" and than he interrupts his own ranting by sneezing from my fur. "AND YOU'VE RUINED MY NIGHT!!"

And I look him dead in the eye..... everything is silent and all that can be heard is the tick of our grandfather clock..tick...tick...tock tick, and I lean right up in his face.. than I lick it, and than I passionately whisper:

"g o o d." Than I slowly lean away from his face, as I see his eyes turn to wide saucers of destruction. Both our breathing is tense now, and I can see him start to crack..."is that a smile I see?"

He doesn't answer as his face scrunches into shapes never before seen by man in a attempt to hide his hysteria. I lightly take his glasses off his face and put them in my pocket..

He softly whispers "So war is what you want tonight dear?"

And I say "no sweetheart, it's pronounced

*V/ore...and by v/ore I mean you"

And he responds "no, you are getting that confused with the french pronunciation "vous" which means in english "you""

And my voice gets deep as I heavily respond:

"v/ore means: to devour..... vous"

AND THAN HE STARTS SQUIRMING LIKE A RABID SQUIRREL... I start maniacally and chaotically laughing

Ohh asher..you were always so cute when you got like this

One thing I knew bout you was how you hated everyone and everything, but you had a special kind of hatred reserved just for me, I could see it in your eyes

The disgust as you tried not to laugh and keep serious well I playfully drove you insane, we felt like tom and jeremy but closer, he was always so hot headed that with just a glance he could set my soul on fire..he always considered himself a p/yromanic.. I'm not sure what that meant but I was a maniac for him, the world was a c/hipotle restaurant and he was the main enchilada to my heart 💘

I think there was screams, I couldn't tell, they were muffled as I shoved him in headfirst into my mouth like he was cotton candy..if cotton candy tasted like a pumpkin spice cappuccino.. he had such weird taste in shampoo choices, it wasn't even fall.... But boy I was going to hog down on him like thanksgiving dinner.. now for my favorite part, the noodle arms, I could feel as he struggled graspin at anything he could..which was my shirt, I grabbed both of his arms and shoved them in swallowin more of him, he was so feisty going down, stuck halfway gazing into the abyss of my throat, I liked to refer to it as the tunnel of love but whenever I called it that he got crazier so I kept my mouth shut...as much as I could with his waist stuck in it, his shorts...tasted  like...money.....wAIT A FCKING  SECOND!! DRATS HE STOLE MY S/ATURDAY TACO FUNDS.. I'll teach em for that one, maybe he just won't come out, I don't know, haven't made up my mind yet, afterall he is on the border of the world and yours truly, he'll have a long time to think bout that in not so solitary confinement. After more squirmin tension and practically choking gulping him down, He slips into my empty stomach like a freezing foot in a wool slipper; Not that I know what that tastes like.. and maybe ash was right, I am rather gluttonous, my shirt even popped up all thanks to him, welp, it's not like he can blame me, it's not like I have anything else to eat, besides...... Cornflakes and that questionable dinner gifted to us, I am not touching that food.....

But how can I sob over being a poor man when ash makes for the richest feast of all, he wasn't too thrilled about it though, as I obnoxiously burped breaking the silence, I could almost hear his muffled "ugh".

"Ahh~ Man, for being such a square you sure make me round" and than he kicks me in the stomach and I go down to the floor like a burning blimp, I swear I could have heard the t/itanic theme, mayhaps that was the post-dinnertime sadness, like when we were at family dinner and I didn't want to be there and uncle phil called my gay cousin louie a-- AND THAN ASH KICKS ME IN THE INTESTINE AND I SCREAM LIKE A LITTLE GIRL

"Haha just kidding that tickled"

I'm not really sure what that chatterbox was going on about now, all I could hear from em was..."fis mrace mis urnmermry" He says indistinguishably muffled.

"I'm sorry, I don't speak food" and than he raises his voice enough for me to hear it clearly: "THIS PLACE IS UNSANITARY!."

"Aww what a shame" I say to him, I even spiffied it up for him and left it reserved just for him, but little goodie twoshoes is never satisfied with anything I do for him. I giggle everytime he moves as I walk over and plop down on the couch causing him to shake around in my belly like a drink mixer, he feels a little dizzy and disoriented now pawing at the walls as if trying to find a secret doorknob or somethin, but alas there weren't no doorknobs here, not in the ribcaged prison that is spending time with me. I lean back on the couch and kick my feet up over the armrest but because the couch is so small my legs go completely over it and by hooves touch the floor, I attempt to get myself more cozy snuggling up against the couch cushions, but than I realize the remote was all the way at the end of the coffee table, but there was no way in hell that I was going to get up, so I reach for it and reach for it and than ash's weight drags me over down like a anchor and I almost fall on the floor if it wasn't for the coffeetable breaking my fall. "You're lucky buddy we lived" and than ash yells "pardon my language but WHAT IN THE BLAZING HELL HAS GOTTEN INTO YOU? wait- don't answer that"

And I casually respond "just doin a little hardcore p/arkour, baby, don't worry bout it, I got this all figured out" and than I accidentally knock one of ash's teacups off the coffeetable and it smashes on the floor to smitherines.

Ash: "What was that"

Jac: "uuhhhhhhhhhh *hiccup* something....that I'll deal with later"

Ash: "Ah. I see. EXCEPT I DON'T. It was my cup wasn't it"

Jac: "Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, HEY you know what we need?"

Ash: a professional surgeon, And lots of glue to put my cup and you back together.

Jac: no, I was thinking more uh.. *hic* that I could really go for some hot chocolate right about now

Ash: WAIT NO---not unless you use your own cup.

And than I get up having a hard time keeping my balance as I stumble aimlessly across the living-room and than I lean up on the kitchen doorframe like b/ugs bunny if he let himself go, than I hear his cracking little voice yell at me hot tempered: "JACKSON MALFREY ARE YOU EVEN LISTENING TO-"

I cut him off midsentence: "yeah yeah, hold ya horses in there, we're almost there."

I'm kinda heaving and wheezing from how full he makes me feel, but I was determined and bullshit ready, so I waltzed through the kitchen, it's floor was checkered and that was the most noteworthy thing about it..which disoriented the drunks who would come over here very much, and I walked over opened up the cabinet and GASP.........*wheeze*

".........................." "Jac are you ok" ash asks with slight concern.

"Yeah, I just realized we still have 4 o/reos left in the cabinet that I can dip them in the hot chocolate"

And than ash sounds deflated yet amused as he suggests: "oh and well you're at it, we also have cookie straws"

And I dig them out of the cabinet

"Vanilla and chocolate swirl!... Oh I remember these!, it's been so many years since I've had one of these, this is just swell!, I can't believe you remembered"

And he replies "yeah, we were supposed to have them with coffee and biscotti, so don't eat all of them." And than I hear the sound of him irritatedly mumble complaints and I giggle "ok, thanks a million, pal, you're the best" after a short montage of me searching for my cup and getting too excited drinking all the questionable almond milk instead of using it to put in the cup, I come to my senses and pour the rest of the milk into the cup and than eat the empty milk container, he squirms even more and now his shirt is soaked "was that necessary?? Now I'm cold" and I say "Gotta keep the environment clean", I spend the next minute with trying to figure out how to heat up the milk now that it's in the cup and I don't have a  microwave so I put the cup in a pot on the stove and the Magic begins✨

The pot starts to get hot and the milk starts bubbling and I sing to myself

s/tayin alive by the bee gees and bopping my head absentmindedly forgetting any time I rhyme it hypnotizes humans to fall asleep out of trance and ash passes out, I get out the oven mitt and pick up the scolding cup and than the oven mitt starts on fire and I blow it out, and than I put marshmallows in the milk when I haven't even put the cocoa in yet and  they also start on fire, after mixing the marshmallows up with the mix, dumping cookies in and cookie straws, I put in a icecube to cool it, I stand there, looking out the kitchen window that overlooked the sun rising over the tree blocked horizon and our garden that in the summer grew all kinds of stuff like tomatos, and corn, and hemp, and sunflowers and brenda's coming at the window with a baseball bat, I lock the window and I drink out of the hot chocolate feeling it warmly trickle down my throat as it gracefully dumps all over ash and he wakes up screaming, not out of pain, but out of surprise. I start to get real tired now, after eating all those cookies and milk and hot chocolate and that stupid expensive shirt brenda shoplifted that brenda and ash were fighting over because brenda wanted to sell it but ash took the tags off because ash liked it. and adorable ash himself, it's finally all getting to me, and I slowly sink to the floor sprawled on my back like a dead man, and ash tells me I have to do his papers now, and I say to him "ok, whatever, fair and Square" and than I pass out snoring loudly and ash sighs loudly.

"..................."

Ash: "pig"

Jac: "What was that, backstabber? 👀" 

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Author: ash can't hear the puns.

But he can feel them.

[michael-runs-hot-guerin]

Re: the innuendos by the LGB characters (from an ace's perspective) (all paraphrased)

Michael's one night stand record: not sure if this is one of them but in the context of him mentioning it to tease Max I don't have a problem with it bc the dude fucks. Whatever we know that.

Isobel's 6 positions: very in character for Isobel imo, and her brother's reacting w needing more tequila for a conversation like that. Isobel has Never been particularly shy about her sex life, whether it was tying up Noah or "the lesbian part" she tried to tell Max about last season to his dismay. I think she does this to tease them bc she knows she also doesn't want to hear about their sex lives (see her face when Michael mentions echo in s1)

Alex's "a man has needs" quip: gross out of context. Definitely. However I'm not taking it like that given the first part of that exchange is him going "it's not like I came back from war" then going "I just came back from war ;)". if they are fwb and given Alex's exclusivity comment later I think they are, I don't think it was a manipulation or anything like that?? I assume that's what we're getting at anyway

Forrest's "did you? Get in okay?": fucking hilarious, and I'm pretty neutral toward forlex as a concept, that was Funny. Alex laughed. More of an opportunistic play on words than something I think he would have said without prompting. It's not like they are actively doing the do. Would have been concerning of he didn't know why the time. Addssdff

I feel like there were other innuendo made by non lgb characters. I mean "I want to make your heart race again" "this won't be more than a one time thing" "how do you know when it's meant to be" but idk being a queer ace I ignore/don't pick up on m/w flirting as much bc it's so boring to me :/ to each their own tho.

[wolf-beil]

it's funny you tagged that post about transphobic shows with good lgb rep as "carole and tuesday" because it doesn't even have that? Like, there's a stalker psycho lesbian that assaults one of the protagonists, a bi woman with nameless wife who appears once and then like 2 tertiary characters who are implied to be gay , oh right and also constant teasing that maybe the leads could be gay but actually aren't, and abusive mother who is trans this show really was a disapointment of the year

I know :/ I was really excited for this show and it turned out to be trash

[vintage-bentley]

final thoughts words opinions etc before the release in a few hours (so i have something to read before i go cold turkey on social media bc i wont be able to watch for at least 2 weeks and cannot ruin this for myself) GO:

Ahh good luck with going cold turkey! I’m sorry you have to wait 😭💕

I’m excited. At first I was really worried that this would be a classic case of the sequel being a shitty cash grab that shouldn’t exist…but from the clips we’ve seen, it looks good. So I trust that I’ll love it just as much as the first season, if not more because apparently it focuses even more on A/C.

As far as the elephant in the room goes…I really want to believe we aren’t being baited. The “leak” was directly from an Amazon pride promo, it feels weird for it to be included if it wasn’t actually romance. And the marketing is being so heavy-handed on the idea of romance, it would honestly be the stupidest corporate decision ever to do that if it was just bait. There’s also the Sheen “best buddies” comment which gives me a lot of hope, because it’s such an unusual way to put it that it feels like it’s an inside joke. And the recent reviews seem to be implying there’s romance. So, I’ve got my hopes up. As always, I’m staying cautiously optimistic, but on a scale from 0 (cautiously) to 10 (optimistic), I’m a 9.

I’m SUPER excited about there being lesbians. I’m worried about the fact that they’re written by a straight man…and I’m really hoping they’re treated normally and not either over or under sexualised. But I’m optimistic about this too, just because I love Nina so much from what we’ve seen of her. She seems well written and well acted, so I can only assume the same will go for Maggie, and hope that the same goes for their relationship.

Aside from ineffable husbands and The Lesbians (I’ve seen retro wives suggested as a ship name which is adorable), I think the thing I’m looking forward to most is more historical scenes. Season 1 episode 3’s opening is my favourite part of the series and I’ve watched it so many times, I just love seeing all the different costumes and seeing the husband’s relationship develop over time. I’m excited to see more of that. Especially the 40’s scene. I’m most excited about one particular historical scene that people talked about after the screening, I won’t say more than that, if you know you know, if you don’t you’ve probably purposefully avoided that information and I applaud your restraint lol.

Now, if the show ends up not being bait, I won’t hate Neil as much as I’ve grown to, but I still won’t love him. Because I think the way he’s handled concerns about baiting is incredibly insensitive and out of touch. He seems to think that this is the same as teasing a long awaited straight couple, so he can be as secretive and coy as he wants. This line of thinking completely ignores the fact that gaybaiting is a real problem, that viewers have been burned by before and don’t want to be burned by again. As great as it would be if gay couples could be anticipated and teased the same way straight couples are…we just aren’t there yet. We’re still at a point where LGB fans aren’t at ease watching a romance build up between two men or women, because we know there’s a chance it won’t go anywhere. Like I’ve said before, knowing that OFMD was a romance before going into it made the viewing experience much more pleasant for me than it would’ve been going in without that knowledge. Because knowing it was a romance allowed me to enjoy it as such…while not knowing would’ve had me going “I’m crazy, I’m just seeing what I want to see, that won’t happen” the whole time (and it sounds like that was the experience for many people who saw it before hearing about it from others!). That’s something OSA people don’t experience when seeing themselves on screen. So if there’s a whole crowd of LGB viewers basically begging you to save us that frustration and doubt, “wait and see if you’re being baited” isn’t exactly the best attitude to have. Especially when you’re on tumblr, and could easily put a yes or no answer under a read more prefaced with many spoiler warnings. Again, unfortunately, we just aren’t at the point yet where anticipating a gay ship is the same as anticipating a straight ship.

It just feels like Neil doesn’t have any compassion for his LGB viewers who don’t want to be baited yet again, which is really annoying considering he seems to think of himself as an amazing ally.

So, if it ends up being bait, obviously I’ll be angry. If it doesn’t end up being bait, I’ll be happy but also annoyed at how Neil made us feel crazy for even hoping for this outcome.

I think that pretty much sums up what’s going on in my head right now! 😄

[hamliet]

Hey! Sorry if this sounds rude or offensive - I assure you that it is not my intention at all. So I saw a discussion about fetishization in yaoi, and I want to ask what does "fetishization" mean in this context? Some of my ships are male/male ship and I don't want to end up fetishizing them (if that makes sense). Forgive my ignorance but can you ask me what to do/not to do in this matter? ((Of course you can choose not to answer this if you don't want to))

Hey Anon! I don’t think you sound rude at all, and thank you for being so polite. I’m going to start by stating that asking a person who identifies as LGB T+might be better (and ppl feel free to chime in, correct me, give you opinion, etc), but here’s an answer that’s going to start by trying to discuss the appeal of yaoi from an empathetic context, and then point out why the fetish aspects can be really disrespectful and even harmful. 

Full disclosure: I don’t personally like most yaoi stories. I watched one season of one once and felt very uncomfortable with the ‘consent not being a thing’ issue, etc. I do however love stories with good representation. Banana Fish and Yuri!!! on Ice have good representation, but are often incorrectly categorized as yaoi–however, it’s not like they aren’t drawing from that appeal either. Mao Dao Zu Shi is technically boy’s love, but has great representation. I’ll discuss what I think makes these stories good representation and not fetishization later. 

Yaoi is–it’s… a genre written by straight women for straight women. Think of how lesbian scenes (or even just teases) tend to get sexualized in main stream media–it’s not done for representation, it’s done for the “omg this turns me on/gives me feelz” aspect. 

However, is that necessarily a bad thing for stories? Not all stories have to aim to tell the most profound, character-driven, thematic story imaginable. It’s interesting to me if you look at traditional “uke” and “seme” roles which are written by women–from a sociological standpoint, I would love to see an academic paper written on this and what it suggests about how women think society views them. The lack of consent and “no, don’t but no means yes here” aspects in yaoi are not unique to yaoi–open any romance novel in the western world. Women are often told they can’t be sexual, and have sexuality shamed, so that’s interesting. Women are told that if they do choose to express their sexuality, it will often define them (traditional literature tropes for women are very often defined by their sexuality–nefarious seductress, beautiful virgin, hooker with a heart of gold, etc.), so the fact that “seme” and “uke” seem to define yaoi characters is also interesting from this perspective. (you can also apply these ideas to omegaverse fics–look fanfic is really interesting sociologically because it’s written by traditionally marginalized communities like women and lgbt+ people.) Not to mention why would women want to fetishize/romanticize a lack of consent? Maybe because society tells us we should. 

But here’s where you run into a problem: writing about m/m relationships in such a way, even if you view it through such an empathetic lens, runs into the issue of yaoi often lacking any kind of empathy for lesbian/gay/bi people, and it seems especially cruelly ignorant because it is not written by nor for LGBT+ people, whereas western romance novels are often written by women for women.  

Fiction isn’t reality, but fiction does exist within reality. It’s a safe place to explore, but it is created within reality, consumed within reality, and yes, can and does affect reality. To say otherwise is ignorant. (To use this to condemn people who enjoy more scandalous fiction, however, is equally ignorant, but that’s for another day.) 

And in reality? LGBT+ people are horrifically treated. There’s progress, but it’s slow, and in many places they not only can’t marry, but it’s freaking illegal. Like, Saudi Arabia will execute you for it. Chechnya was rounding gay men up in concentration camps. Even in Japan where yaoi comes from, they can’t marry, and in China, everything is censored and people can be arrested for corrupting others if they promote certain content. 

To consume yaoi without being aware of the real-life conundrums and struggles for LGBT+ people is ignorant and harmful. Because yaoi does reinforce tropes that are dangerous–it forces certain roles and expectations, and there isn’t much good representation to counter it and convey that hey, this is a fetishization, not reality. Most of it doesn’t acknowledge the struggles of LGBT+ people to be accepted in the world, to not be condemned, and if it does it’s often in the context of sex, which can fetishize it. It often reduces the relationship to sex.

And there’s the issue. Yaoi is “omg penises having sex.” It (often) reduces people to just objects, and when in the real world LGBT+ people are struggling to be acknowledged as existing, that they aren’t going to hell, to survive, that’s just… it can be irresponsible. 

So let’s talk about Mao Dao Zu Shi, a Chinese boy’s love novel that I’m recently obsessed with lol. And let’s throw Banana Fish and Yuri!!! on Ice in here as well, because all these stories are often called “yaoi” when… while they do draw from certain tropes, it’s reductive to label them as such. Because all these stories are plot/theme/character driven. Even when the love stories between Lan WangJi and Wei WuXian, Ash and Eiji, Yuuri and Victor, are the beating hearts at the core of all these series, the story never reduces them to an object. Even if I have said before I think Victor needs better fleshing out, and I do, he’s not an object. The stories serve the characters, rather than characters existing to serve the audience via turning them on and/or giving feelz. Even though MDZS does have explicit sexual scenes towards the end, and YoI has a ton of fanservice, the focus is not the audience. The characters are not props even when they are weaker. In Banana Fish and MDZS, two of my favorite stories ever, the characters are particularly rich and compelling and real. 

That’s what good representation is, imo. Showing them as people, not as objects having sex. The opposite is fetishization–and while there is a place for fetishes and such, to enjoy a type of it while real life people are suffering is… immensely privileged. And it can be hurtful. 

My guess is from what you say, you’re not shipping m/m because it’s m/m, but because you like the dynamics/find their dynamic hot (which isn’t fetishization necessarily), not because you just want to see penises in action. And to be clear, a story like MDZS does draw attention to the fact that it is two men and deliberately critiques society for its homophobia, so it’s not like you can’t like an m/m ship for that reason–but I do think it’s just good to be self-aware, and allow for nuance. 

[imdawndenbo]

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