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rainofthetwilight Ā· 6 months ago
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on s2ep2 of LMK rn and tang is just like me frfr...dude saw a huge terrifying looking dumpling in the sky and his first thought was "WOAH YUMMY DUMPLING"
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1moreff-creator Ā· 3 months ago
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DRDT CH2 EP16 First Impressions
Weā€™ve reached the end of the chapter! A bittersweet feeling, finally getting closure on this chapter while also ushering in a new hiatus. Still, congrats to dev for making it this far! Hope they enjoy their break, while we enjoy whatever theyā€™ve cooked up for the ending!
Without further ado, let us enjoy peak.
Spoilers for the entirety of CH2 (hell yeah). CW: Execution, suicidal thoughts.
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Itā€™s Aceover.
ONE vote for Teruko! Do we think Ace voted for himself? Did the mystery voter from Trial 1 repeat their vote on Teruko? Or did they not, and the voteā€™s just Ace? {Hindsight: Itā€™s CH1 Mystery Voter probs}
MonoTV: ā€œYou got it right!ā€ ITā€™S ALL OVER.
Okay wait itā€™s actually kinda weird to see the new David sprites outside of the Trial. Like itā€™s trippy idk why. Thatā€™s crazy.
Eden: ā€œWhy her of all people?ā€ Poor Eden, at least give her an answer! Even if itā€™s just ā€œit was the easiest optionā€ man.
Whit: ā€œI really thought that no one would repeat what happened to Xander and Min.ā€ Is this the very first piece of anti-Whit Time Loop theory evidence? Or is he just lying? I donā€™t believe the theory, so Iā€™m passing that one to the defenders.
Ace: ā€œI killed her. And if you canā€™t forgive me for that, then thereā€™s nothing I can say.ā€
Hey remember when Nico said they didnā€™t see the point of saying sorry if they wouldnā€™t be forgiven anyways? Yeah.
The foils are foiling :O
Both Teruko and Eden blaming themselves in their own way (Eden mentioned it in Ep10 ā€œjust like Min!ā€ and now Terukoā€™s bringing ā€œmisfortuneā€ into the conversation), man we are in for some sad times with these two. And everyone else ig.
Hu: ā€œHow could you say itā€™s just misfortune?ā€ And Hu is very against this idea, interesting.
ā€œSo we canā€™t blame ourselves for failing to prevent something like that.ā€ Ah, thereā€™s the ticket. Sheā€™s trying not to feel guilty about it, which is kinda fair, Areiā€™s death is 99% Aceā€™s fault.
Eden: ā€œThe Ace I met for the first time wasnā€™t a murderer.ā€ Oof, Eden hitting us with the full highlight line. Sheā€™s so great for this honestly. Everything she says afterwards is also great for her character, I love her (and I donā€™t need to read her lines with suspicion!!! Iā€™m free!!!)
Veronika. And sheā€™s still smiling. Go worst girl! /affectionate
ā€œThe only thing anyone can do in this killing game is to shatter.ā€ We areā€¦ getting worryingly close to secret quote wording here.
Rose: ā€œAre you saying Ace was pushed into killing because of things like almost being killed?ā€ (Paraphrased) Oh God sheā€™s gonna feel guilty too because she let Nico get the turpentine! Even if that doesnā€™t work if Ace had already chosen to kill Eden, still! How much self-blame can we have this trial?
Teruko: ā€œNo.ā€ Yeah thank you.
Ace: ā€œDid you all get the Veronika virus or what?ā€ God Iā€™m gonna miss him so much actually.
[To Levi] ā€œShut up for the rest of your life and kill yourself!ā€ Holy SHIT heā€™s going out with a bang. {Hindsight: I didnā€™t realize how accurate this would be}
David: ā€œYou still have it in you to throw stones in your glass house.ā€ Did this motherfucker correctly use the idiom Ace fucked up earlier? Heā€™s such a piece of shit /affectionate.
Ace: ā€œI donā€™t care if it made me a hypocrite!ā€ AGH-! New sprite and the voice acting continues the hot streak of being absolutely fucking stellar! Holy hell!
[To Levi] ā€œI just needed a reason to stay mad at you!ā€ Ouchie!
[The whole Levi v Ace thing] This is just fucking incredible. Levi still doesnā€™t understand, Ace just wanted to stay mad so he could live with his betrayal, just peak character writing all around. And peak VAing, of course.
Teruko: ā€œI need you to do a favor for me. It might just save your life.ā€ YOOO I CALLED THIS!!! Blackened Blaze of Glory letā€™s fucking goooo!!!! Thanks to shinycrows for asking me that!!!
ā€œKill MonoTV for me.ā€ Alright so. Not the best plan ever, but then again, itā€™s not like any plan against the killing game will work on CH2. Also the way she said that was great.
MonoTV: ā€œYeah, more murder!ā€ Whyā€™s it so funny for?
Teruko: ā€œArei died because youā€™re a coward, Ace!ā€ YO whyā€™s she going so hard right now?! This entire scene is incredible, I donā€™t even have any words for this much peak. The emotion in her voice, holy fuck- Oh yeah because Areiā€™s crying reminded her of something! In the playground! So Teruko does have a small connection with Arei so sheā€™d feel real bad (for more reason than just death of someone she knew)! I didnā€™t put that together till now.
[Ace punches MonoTV] PEAAAK! Oh shit it actually broke! That was so fucking awesome! Letā€™s fucking go Ace!!!!! Also MonoTV is definitely just coming back, right?
That broken MonoTV sprite though!
Eden: ā€œFinally, itā€™s overā€”ā€œ The lack of music is making this really impactful, even though we know it wonā€™t work. Holy shit.
MonoTV: ā€œA fatal error has been detectedā€ We breaking out different fonts?
MonoTV: ā€œNow loading the default XF-Ture personality drivers.ā€
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AND THE CROWD GOES FUCKING WILD!!!!
Now we have the question. Was MonoTV created by XF for the game? Or did XF just create the AI, and someone repurposed it for thre killing game?
Also what are these defaults going to be?
ā€¦Wait whose voice is this? Someone we know? Please tell me Iā€™m bad at recognizing voices! {I think itā€™s still MonoTVā€™s VA, just doing a different act, but Iā€™m not sure}
[MonoTV speech] Didnā€™t expect MonoTV of all damn characters to have a badass moment, but I guess this is the world we live in now.
ā€œBut there is no reason to punish Ace a second time.ā€ UHHH Chat are we cooked?
The death of every participant? This is about rule 14, right? ā€œAll murderers must be held accountableā€? The ā€œeveryone is responsible for Maiā€™s death and must be punishedā€ theory seems to be gaining ground.
Itā€™s also saying this is why it was created, so XF likely did have a direct hand in the killing game. Min MM not looking so implausible all of the sudden.
ā€œI will pass the punishmentā€¦ā€ chat weā€™re actually immensely cooked what.
ā€œI will now proceed with the execution of Teruko Tawaki.ā€ UHHH LUCK BETTER COME IN CLUTCH!!!
[Machine Gun] BRO?!?!?!
Charles: ā€œThat thing will surely kill you!ā€ Even Charles is sounding extremely distressed here, damn! But I guess Teruko is relying on her luck maybe?
Whit: ā€œCharles! Stop talking and cover your eyes!ā€ I mean yeah good advice but you know- More pressing things atm
Teruko: ā€œNo :)ā€ Whyā€™s she so silly coded?
Teruko: ā€œKilled? I doubt it. As if something so kind could happen to me.ā€ AAAAAAH!!!! The suicidal tendencies return with a vengeance!!!
[Her speech] Holy fuck holy fuck this is crazy sheā€™s actually doing the unhinged Lucky Student thing of relying on luck sheā€™s going in Iā€™m so terrified for whatā€™s about to happen.
ā€œIā€™ll show you all what it means to be the Ultimate Lucky Student.ā€ Shit boutta go crazy.
[LEVI DOES THE THING] OF FUCKING COURSE!
Bro I was not ready for this. I wasnā€™t ready in the slightest. This motherfucker better survive against all odds or itā€™s all over.
Bro that sprite- Heā€™s so cooked.
MonoTV: ā€œHis injuries are not fatalā€ Wait are we saved? Arturo look I know youā€™re not a doctor but for the love of God tell me you can do something about this holy shit. I wasnā€™t ready for this.
VERONIKA. Holy shit sheā€™s actually insane.
Arturo: ā€œHe could liveā€¦ā€ Please??? For me???
Wait now that Iā€™m thinking about it. He hasnā€™t said his secret quote. We might be saved.
[Whit sprite] ā€¦ Huh??? Bro what the fuck is happening this episode.
Ace: ā€œExecute me right now!ā€ Ough this shit insane!!! I canā€™t- I genuinely canā€™t react. Iā€™m just overcome with emotion at this point.
ā€œIā€™ll have a third death in my hands!ā€ ā€¦ Wait the math. Unless heā€™s counting himselfā€¦ does he blame himself for Taylorā€™s death???
[The entire Arturo - Ace debacle] Iā€¦holy shit???? The genuine distress in Arturoā€™s voice when he says he canā€™t save Levi??? Ace clinging to the hope that he can??? Bro what the fuck??? This is insane???? I canā€™t- I canā€™t compute- This is actually insane. This is so much. Levi better not fucking die after this I swear to god-
Ace: ā€œI donā€™t want to dieā€¦ā€ Holy shit dev did it. Iā€™m feeling just as bad for Ace as I felt for Min. Bra-fucking-vo. Holy fuck. No words.
[Thanatophobia]
(Fear of death right? Fits)
ā€¦ Okay, so. I know someone brought up this term in relation to Ace. Genius, first.
Second, that might just be one of the greatest executions Iā€™ve even seen, if not the best. I usually donā€™t care much about how good executions are, but thisā€¦ this is incredibly good. The music was banging. The execution method was unique. It wasnā€™t related to his talent, but his character, which makes it better imo.
(Also are the ā€œunexplained illnessesā€ related to Xanderā€™s family?)
And even through all thisā€¦ dev showed the corpse. When they didnā€™t show Minā€™s. Why would you allow me to cope even further? You drop XF and show a corpse- holy shit. I just canā€™t even process anything.
And he didnā€™t say his quote. He never said it I donā€™t think. Levi better survive.
VERONIKA. Holy shit sheā€™s actually getting more and more unhinged by the second the hell-? Yeah remember when she looked unnerved by Minā€™s execution?!?! She ainā€™t looking unnerved no more!
Hu: ā€œThe elevator is open!ā€ Weā€™re just- gonna ignore- Alright, I guess itā€™s fair. Surely Levi survives right?
Rose please tell me you looked away. I know you saw Levi so itā€™s not looking great either way, but still.
Teruko: ā€œGo on without me.ā€ Is she going to talk to David maybe? About the secret?
ā€œEveryone was gone.ā€ Alright no, sheā€™s just going to mourn or something?
[Teruko reflects on her similarities to Ace and Arei] I really like this moment, itā€™s nice of her to say what the audience was probably already thinking.
MonoTV: ā€œI must convince everyone that Iā€™m the villain.ā€ And what does this mean MonoTV? Genuinely too burnt out to think about it any harder rn.
MonoTV: ā€œThat is the fate that I have, to make others suffer.ā€ HOW ARE WE TYING MONO FUCKING TV TO THE THEME OF FATE?!?!?!WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT FUCKING ā€œTERUKO-MONOTV PARALLELSā€ WHAT THE FUCK?! DEV YOU SON OF A BITCH YOU DID IT AGAIN!!! /positive
[Teruko breaks down] Holy hellā€¦
ā€œI had known the answerā€¦ā€ AUGH- The character writingā€¦ itā€™s so goodā€¦ fucking hell this is incredibleā€¦
Where do we even go from here? Terukoā€™s speed running the themes of trust and fate like theyā€™re not the main themes of the series?!?! Iā€™m going crazy.
ā€¦ Are we seriously leaving it on a cliffhanger whether Levi is alive or not? Like, I know the ā€œsurviving studentsā€ thing counted him, so Iā€™m guessing heā€™s alive, butā€¦ hot damn. This is an evil cliffhanger.
(Also I find it funny that Davidā€™s silhouette sprite did in fact change to what the dev said was his new default lol)
ā€œSeems thereā€™s something heā€™s not proud ofā€ The nailbiting right.
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General Thoughts
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Bro how the fuck am I expected to even begin to summarize this shit?!?!
Okay, inā€¦ ascending order of crazy.
Did David justā€¦ not speak almost the entire episode? Did he even have any lines when Teruko was being executed? The fuck is going on with him? He didnā€™t even reveal Terukoā€™s secret???
Veronika was unhinged. Loved that for her. Hope she gets worse, it seems like CH3 will be a fun chapter for her (I hope that doesnā€™t mean she dies).
Whit officially gets his very own unhinged/breakdown sprite! Weā€™ve completed the set! I mean, itā€™s not as crazy as others, but it matches Roseā€™s soā€¦
Everyone endures further trauma, fun.
I even feel bad for Arturo! Poor guy did not ask for this shit! Thereā€™s fun foils here with Levi trying to protect the group as much as he can and Arturo being forced into the roleā€¦
Also. Of all ships. I did not expect Aceturo to get a dub here somehow.
I somehow called more or less predicted what Teruko was gonna do. Fun how that happened. And her little character reflection at the end was awesome, I loved it very much. Jesus fuck.
Thatā€™s gotta be the best execution Iā€™ve ever seen, hands down. I donā€™t care that there wasnā€™t a single horse there. This is much better.
Also, no secret quote from Ace. So those are 100% not a good metric for defining who is at risk of death. Wonder if that means weā€™ll get a flashback with him?
XF-Ture Tech?!?!?! MonoTV character building kinda?!?!?!?! Iā€™m going crazy?!?!?!
Levi??? This motherfucker better be alive. Thereā€™s no reason he should be dead, so Iā€™m gonna assume heā€™s alive. But wowā€¦ I guess weightedblankettt was sorta right on the ā€œfinal orbitā€ interpretation of Leviā€™s connection to Shoemaker-Levy 9, justā€¦ not in a way we expected. (If that meant nothing to you donā€™t worry about it).
And Aceā€¦ Hot damn. Justā€¦ an entire character arc at the eleventh minute, huh? Howā€™s that for the people who were saying Ace wouldnā€™t be remembered, huh? Levi probably owes him his life, in a way. He broke MonoTV. He faced his thanatophobia to try to help Levi survive. Justā€¦ so fucking good. I said it in the reaction. I genuinely felt just as much grief for him as I did Min. And coming from me, thatā€™sā€¦ a lot. Just incredible writing and voice acting and everything in betweenā€¦
This cements it, btw. This is my favorite trial from anything DR related ever. Itā€™s genuinely insane. I am going to make a more detailed, more coherent post analyzing the entirety of Part 2 of this chapter, because it deserves it. It deserves more thought than Iā€™m able to give right now on account of feeling too many emotions. Stay tuned for that, I guess.
Props to the dev, the VAs, and anyone who might have laid a hand on this at some point. Itā€™s genuinely incredible, this is an unforgettable experience. Holy shit.
I donā€™t- I donā€™t have the emotional energy to keep writing. Justā€¦ I think I need to calm down for a few hours. Genuinely loved every second of this. Thanks for reading, and see you when I gather my thoughts enough to trust myself to be coherent.
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mandareeboo Ā· 9 months ago
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I simply would not do this. Like if I was a villain there'd be certain heroes I'd be willing to risk fucking with but the guy who blows shit up by flying through it is NOT one of them. Hell, if I started robbing this house by ACCIDENT and Invincible flew in I'd be like "shit my bad" and go to jail immediately.
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accirax Ā· 4 months ago
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Danganronpa: Despair Time Chapter 2 Episode 12 Dissection
DANGANRONPA DESPAIR TIME IS BACK, BABY!!!
And in the vein of what many others have being doing since the episode came out, I will here be posting my thoughts on what this latest episode has brought to the table. This post will be a mixture of pointing out things I found fun/interesting and more serious theorizing about the murder and the events of the surrounding chapter. I also tried not to read too many other people's opinions or theories before writing my own post so that I hopefully wouldn't have my immediate opinions swayed, so I apologize if I've missed any critical easter eggs that others have pointed out or if I'm just beating a dead horse.
Let the episode commence!
SPOILERS for Danganronpa: Despair Time through Chapter 2, Episode 12!
Really important/long stuff will probably have a header-y title under it as well. I also might skip around in time a bit to put relevant pieces of evidence together? IDK, I'm kinda winging this for this first episode.
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The Whole AM/PM Thing
Charles: The evidence against David-- in fact, our entire line of reasoning hinges on the fact that Arei must have been killed at around 7:30 PM last night. But the primary reason we believe the murder occurred at that time is because of the fish found at the crime scene. From that, Teruko concluded that since the killer accessed the relaxation room for water, the murder couldn't have occurred during night time. So, unless I'm missing some other piece of evidence that could explain it... Why couldn't the killer simply have taken the water during daytime and stored it for later use?
Well, by this point I think that pretty much everyone (on Tumblr, at least) was in agreement that Arei was killed in the morning rather than the evening, no matter who their personal choice of killer was. So, the murder happening in the morning isn't much of a surprise.
For all my talk of trying not to look at others' theories, I did talk with my sister @venus-is-thinking in person after we watched the episode, and she brought up a really good point that I'd like to reiterate here. Sorry for stealing something that you'll certainly bring up in your post as well! I just want as many people to be aware of it as possible.
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During the investigation, Nico says that they fed the fish last night after they ate dinner, and didn't notice any fish missing at that time. To be fair, Teruko tries to press them for a specific time, and Nico responds that they don't remember at what hour exactly they fed the fish or ate dinner.
However (likely relevantly to the murder) we do have specific intel about last night's dinner to get a better sense of some timing. When Teruko is talking to Charles and Whit in the Computer Room, Whit remarks that it's "past dinner time," and Teruko's stomach growls. This is likely using Whit's internal clock and sense of when dinner time is as opposed to a MonoTV-mandated meal time, but given that no one else is in the Kitchen besides Teruko, Charles, Whit, and David when the former three enter, and we know that Nico must have had dinner before the Relaxation Room closed at 10 PM, we can probably assume that Nico also ate dinner around a regular "dinner time."
However x2, we also know that, after Teruko, Charles, and Whit go to the Kitchen, Whit sends David to the Relaxation Room, and Teruko mentions that she was planning to eat there as well. That means that we have three accounts of students believing that the Relaxation Room was open at that time, so we can assert that the terucharwhit dinner scene occurs before 10 PM.
So, what does this mean? Well, we'll start by assuming that Nico ate dinner at, like... 6:30? Hu says that she and Eden have a tradition of cleaning up after dinner together, starting at 7 PM. I'm ballparking that eating a meal might take about 30 minutes, so that would mean everyone is done at 7:00. Therefore, Nico probably fed the fish at around 7:00 as well.
We'll also set egg dinner (that's what I'm calling terucharwhit + David dinner now) at, like 9:30. Once again assuming that someone could eat dinner in about 30 minutes, that means either David or Teruko could comfortably eat their dinner before the Relaxation Room closed. It also gives the culprit basically the widest possible amount of time to steal the fish, and I like to be as all-inclusive as possible.
To return to the main point for a moment, Venus' argument was that, because Nico interacted with the fish at night and didn't notice any of them missing, the culprit still must have taken the fish at night (but before 10 PM), not just at any point of the day. Based on my time frame, that means that whoever killed Arei (or someone working with them) must have gotten the fish at some time between 7:00 and 9:30. Let's run through who that could possibly be:
Teruko: There's a small window of opportunity for her to have done it before meeting with Charles and Whit in the Computer Lab, but we didn't see her do that, so I'm gonna say no.
Xander: He was dead.
Charles: I'm pretty sure Charles and Whit have claimed to be together all day, and they were at least already together in the Computer Lab working together on something before Teruko entered. Assuming they weren't in on this together, I'm going to give him a tentative no.
Ace: So, assuming that Ace was telling the truth about overhearing David and Arei on the night of Day 7, he would have been in the Gym at ~9:30 on the night the fish were taken. That is to say, if he had just taken the fish (and potentially even hid them in the Gym fridge), he absolutely could have gone to the Gym afterwards. I don't remember him having any sort of alibi otherwise. Easy yes.
Arei: Given that, other than Ace (and David) claiming to have seen her at 9:30, no one is admitting to have seen Arei since lunchtime, Arei did have a window of opportunity to take the fish. Obviously, why she would (inadvertently or not) help her killer to kill her is still a huge question mark, but we're talking possibility, so it's a yes.
Rose: Rose has no alibi ever because she's asleep. Yes.
Hu: Hu and Eden claim to have a continuous alibi together between 7 and 10 PM. Again, unless they're in on it together, tentative no.
Eden: Same as Hu. Tentative no.
Levi: Levi was "doing his laundry," which even he admits is shaky at best. He's a yes.
Arturo: J says that Arturo was by her side from the entire time between 7:30 and 10 PM. Third time's the charm-- unless Arturo and J were in on it together, Arturo is a tentative no.
Min: She was dead.
David: David entered the Kitchen for egg dinner at ~9:30, but we don't know where he was before that. Similarly, we don't know what happened at the end of Ace's story, which leaves David a window of opportunity to have taken the fish just before the Relaxation Room closed. Either way, definite yes.
Veronika: Veronika was with Teruko at the end of the night, but we don't know where she was before that. She had an opportunity; yes.
J: Arturo's alibi goes both ways. Tentative no.
Whit: Same as Charles. Tentative no.
Nico: Nico both had ample opportunity to have taken the fish before 9:30, and could have been lying about the timing of the fish despite that. Another easy yes.
So, what does that tell us? Well, it likely means that either the killer has to be Ace, Arei, Rose, Levi, David, Veronika, Nico, or someone who has one of those seven as an accomplice, or I/the students have something wrong about the timing. Venus' other point was that it's weird that that hasn't come up at this point in the Trial, so don't be surprised if we come back to it later. Or we're wrong.
And those were my notes on... the first two minutes of the Trial! That whole ramble that probably could have been a whole theory post by itself! God, I need to pick up the pace...
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Dang, what a cool detail that literally none of us picked up on (as far as I remember). Seriously, how did nobody even throw that out as an off-the-wall possibility? Anyways, if the body was still swinging, that means the murder-- or at least the hanging-- was recent recent. Sadly, given that no detail is given as to who arrives in the Motive Screening Room when, I don't think we have any further evidence to pin down who this might have been at the moment. Keep it in mind, though.
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Okay, so I believe that J is right about "answering her own question" here, but that does therefore lead us to the conclusion that the body probably was drenched in water at some point. I do not know why. It'd be interesting if it was to clean blood off of Arei's body, although Artruro-not-being-the-killer pending there weren't any cuts or scrapes on her body. It could have also been a mistake, it's just weirder to have a mistake that covers the entire body in water. Or, it could be a failure in Arturo's alibi, which is obviously a major point of the episode.
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I literally said exactly this while Ace was talking. Thank you Charles <3
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First point that I feel people have commented on already: we now know that the DRDT cast believes that they are about 18! This makes sense, given that they believed that they were about to enter their first year of college, which, in the United States, happens at about 18.
Secondly...
Arturo: I started studying medicine when I was twelve. Twelve! All that amounts to is six years of medical training!
Arturo: I was only able to get this far in such a short amount of time because I specialized in plastic surgery, and nothing else. I neglected everything that wasn't immediately relevant to my goals.
Felicity is 3-4 years younger than Arturo. Therefore, she was 8-9 when Arturo started studying medicine. I don't think we have enough info at the moment to speculate as to when Arturo might have left home to pursue being a doctor, other than that 14 is generally the minimum possible age of employment in the US, while the legal age to live alone is 18. I'd love to dive into this more, but I don't think we've been given enough to complete a full timeline. Still, important to keep in mind.
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A certified W for verturo shippers. "Adorable" is such a word choice.
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Oh, so that's where that came from. Convenient that it doesn't seem to be relevant to this murder, because I have no explanation for it. I wonder if it'll be relevant in the future, though, or if it was just a funny gag that DRDTdev wanted to include.
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As much as I've tried to refute Whit mastermind theory in the past, I have to admit that this moment was pretty suspicious for Whit. "Because it was funny" could easily be a coverup for "that's an executable offense but I'm programmed to not want to kill my mastermind so I let it go." It's still not concrete proof by any means, but I can tell that I'll be seeing this screenshot more in the future if I try to argue against Whit being the mastermind again.
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Mechanisms, you say? šŸ‘€
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I have been thinking so much about what the fuck this line means ever since Whit said it. Did they actually spend the night together, and Whit is just framing it in a subversively funny way? Is he saying that he's so sure that Charles doesn't have any friends other than him that there's no possibility that Charles could have been with anyone else other than him? Is he secretly the mastermind, and knows that Charles was alone through watching a security camera? Was he just saying that to be random and banking on being correct? Sir, I do not understand you. You're the best <3
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Are J, David, and Veronika Telling the Truth?
Given how popular of an option J being the killer is (and to a lesser extent, David as well), I'm sure there are plenty of people out there right now wondering if this alibi, which seemingly clears J, David, and Veronika of being the blackened, could possibly be untrue. That's what we're going to attempt to examine right now.
For starters, I'm going to eliminate the possibility that all three of them are co-conspirators in Arei's death. Like, yeah, it's possible-- I guess-- but I don't understand what any of their motivations would be, or even if they did all have corresponding motivations, why any of them would have shared them with each other prior to the Trial. It also seems like a mess narratively, with three largely unconnected characters coming together to pull off an unsupported major stunt. So, I don't think this was a planned lie to conceal their teamwork.
All of them do also have plausible enough reasons for being out early in the morning. J shared hers with the Class-- she was hoping to have an Arturo-free breakfast. David makes lots of sense, as he was probably looking around hoping that there would be a body so that the secrets wouldn't be revealed. Veronika might have been awake for the same reasons; looking around for a body in hopes of having another exciting Class Trial. Or, maybe she was just so excited about seeing all the motives that she couldn't sleep. Either way, it doesn't seem too unbelievable to think that any of them would be awake in the morning, so I'm not inclined to believe it's a lie.
The only way I think you could get out of this disqualifying these three is if you say that all three of them, but especially J, are exceptionally quick on their feet.
For this to work, J has to realize ahead of time that David was trying to draw votes to himself in order to purposefully fail the Trial, bank on the fact that this is true, and throw this fake alibi out to him, hoping that he'll accept. If J could win the Class Trial as a blackened, this would also end the killing game early, which is David's stated goal. Veronika is an easier get, given that she might agree to a chaotic lie if she found it interesting enough, but it's still a gamble.
However, this situation is incredibly niche, and still really only works if J specifically is the killer. I think we can pretty officially take David and Veronika out of the running with this. Personally, trying to see things from DRDTdev's point of view, I think he just wanted a clean sweep to remove David from killer contention, and added J and Veronika as collateral as two people who aren't the killer.
I would personally take this alibi as concrete proof that J isn't the killer, but I understand if anyone still thinks there are enough holes in its suddenness to keep J in contention. My deepest condolences to J!culprit truthers-- I'm sure that alibi must've stung. (/gen)
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"Harm yourself for fun" secret go brrrrrrr.
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I'm making this my new tumblr header.
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Yeah, seems in accordance with his actions to me.
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Oh my god another "good person" name drop AAAAAAAAAA--
Being good corresponding to sacrificing something is super interesting. Whether he's a culprit or an accomplice or what, I can't help but feel like this theme might apply to Levi in the near future.
But also, David is saying that the sacrifice is being seen as a good person, not that you have to sacrifice being seen as a good person to do good things. That part seems like it relates to David's career. He doesn't seem to like being around people very much, but he's seen as a paragon of motivational speaking because he thinks that those speeches, will, overall, do some good. David would rather be a nobody, but he'll sacrifice himself to do some good for others. Or, at least, that's the charitable reading.
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And, the other "good person" jumpscare. This brings our "good people" counter up to 6, including Teruko, Eden, Arei, David, Levi, and Xander.
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What the Fuck is David Talking About?
David: After all, it's still unbelievable to me... That I'm the only person here who remembered him. Even if you all lost a year of memories for this killing game, there's no reason you shouldn't have recognized who he was.
Alright. So! This was one of the biggest reveals of the episode. Probably unrelated to the Trial at hand, but very intriguing for the story overall.
I went back to rewatch some of the most prominent David/Xander scenes. From David's introduction, here's everything he says before Xander runs off to grab the pen and paper for the autograph. All of these are said directly to Xander.
David: Woah! (chime sound) Sir, is everything alright? You gave me quite the scare.
David: Yes, that's me, although I don't believe we've met before.
David: Ahaha, you flatter me. But yes, it is my goal to inspire others. I wish to make everyone realize that their aspirations are within grasp; all they have to do is find the motivation within their hearts to inspire them.
David: O-oh, wow. I'm incredibly honored, I suppose? Sorry, I don't really know how to respond.
Interestingly, there isn't actually anything to directly contradict the idea that David remembered Xander at this point, if you get a bit creative with it. Just because David "doesn't think they've met before" doesn't mean that he doesn't know who Xander is, and being "genuinely honored" could have been more genuine than most people interpreted.
There are only two points of contention, the first of which being that David calls Xander "sir." That does read more as David not knowing who he is-- he doesn't call Xander "Xander" even though Teruko already said Xander's name. However, depending on how highly David thought of Xander in the past-- because he certainly seems to think highly of Xander in the present-- David might have wanted to call him "sir" at first as a sign of formality and respect, before getting Xander's permission to be on a first name basis. Even if Xander still calls him Mr. David.
(Goddamn I typed Xander so many times in that paragraph)
The other weird point is when David says "anything for a fan" in response to Xander asking for an autograph, but that's far more excusable. Like, Xander is a massive fan of his, so calling Xander a fan is reasonable. David might have been happy that such a cool guy as Xander was a fan of his, and was stressing that fact out of delight. Or, this is after Teruko caught him slipping, so he could have also reverted into default customer service mode and said that in a more scripted mindset.
Meanwhile, in the scene where David approaches Teruko and Xander after Nico flees the lunch table...
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... I CAN'T BELIEVE WE FUCKING MISSED THIS.
Do you see that? Do you see where David says "in person"? That strongly implies that David knew Xander not in person prior to the killing game. Good god, it's been there all along.
Other than that, the scene is full of David being embarrassed at Xander speaking highly of him, David speaking highly of Xander, and, of course, the mutual "you're my idol" moment. Dude, I thought that David was just gaslight gatekeep girlbossing here. You're telling me that everything he was saying about thinking that Xander was the coolest guy on earth was legit? Unreal.
Anyways, I don't have the time to rewatch, like, the entire first Trial to check up on every little comment David makes, but I find that comment about knowing Xander in person definite enough to conclude that David knew who Xander was since the very start of the killing game, not that he remembered something about Xander along the way.
How exactly David knew about Xander is still up in the air. I know that Microphony has a theory that David remembered Xander from their time together at Hope's Peak, and while it's a great theory and I don't doubt that the two did go to Hope's Peak together, I have a bit of a hard time believing that. My only holdup is that I feel like letting David remember Hope's Peak would be too powerful, and having him remember being with Xander at Hope's Peak while remembering nothing else about his time there is too... like, specific? Nit-picky? I don't have the word, but I hope you understand what I mean.
Instead, I think that David might remember what Xander did in response to the North C and Chariton incident that presumably earned him the title of Ultimate Rebel. That makes more sense to me as something that would make David idolize Xander in the same way that Xander idolized him-- if David just remembers their time at school, he would probably remember Xander on more friendly terms. It would also be super convenient to have David still be alive with memories of, say, Richard Spurling, to share with the class in future chapters, now that Xander is too dead to say anything more on the subject.
Sadly, I don't remember if there's any information in Literature Girl Insane to point theories in either direction. I'm gonna have to rewatch FF's video again sometime fr.
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Is David Telling the Truth?
David: We're... in a television show, after all. That's... what MonoTV said, right? "Entertainment" is an ongoing show. If Min successfully got away with the very first murder and escaped while we all died, then isn't that way less interesting for a TV show? What's the point of roping 14 other people into one murder, only to kill them all off immediately? The killer is supposed to fail and be executed. We're all supposed to catch the killer, again and again, and participate in trial after trial. You're supposed to try to survive. All of you who are trying to survive these class trials to continue living on are playing straight into MonoTV's hands. As if I'll accept that. I don't care how low I'll sink, or how despicable I'll have to become. I'll do anything to carry on Xander's ideals by ending this killing game, even if it means that I have to dirty my hands.
Firstly, I'm so glad that we're returning to the fact that this is a televised killing game! It seems like it has to be really important to whatever the lore is, so I'm glad that the students haven't artificially forgotten that fact until Chapter 6.
Secondly, I phrased this part as "is David telling the truth" because, initially, I thought that David had a different reason for lying about killing Arei. My thought was that he thought that pathetically advocating for himself would only make himself look more guilty, so he switched up tactics by making it look like so easy of a victory that people like Teruko would wind up proving his innocence themselves. Because that seemed plausible, I wanted to examine if David could have come up with this explanation on the fly. He's known for lying and should be socially savvy, so it's possible that this argument was just a red herring to conceal his true intentions.
However, given the prior section in which I argued that it really does seem like David knew and admired Xander prior to the killing game, I'm more inclined to believe that this was the true reason. Furthermore, this was a really interesting scene, and it'd be a shame to introduce such a fascinating character idea to toss it away for an "actually, he was just trying to lie about this Chapter 2 Trial."
There's also the good ol' Literature Girl Insane, for real this time. This plan reminded me so much of the "tallying votes" scene that I had to check it out for myself.
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[12] ā€œMajority ruleā€ is known to be the fairest method of making decisions for a group. That's why murderers never complained when we voted for them to die.
The voting results definitely sound like David's plan. If he successfully made himself the killer, everyone would be executed, and while he would have "victory" over the killing game, it would certainly be a hollow one.
The 16 vote tally is still a bit more confusing, but I think you could relate it to David's plan as well. If you assume that David is the one getting all of the votes, you could say that his plan to end the killing game no matter the cost (throwing away his career, being hated by everyone, possibly even killing someone himself) might make him guilty of a crime/worthy of being voted for, whether he literally kills someone or not. Therefore, if the majority hates him and he achieves the closest thing to "victory" that he can, there's no reason for him to complain if it means he has to die. It could be his justification for why he has to fill out his mission, even if, in his heart, he doesn't want to.
I don't know if that's the explanation of footnote 12 or just an explanation with the new scenes given, but I think it's a possibility. There's also certainly far more to dive into regarding both David's worldview and the motivations behind the killing game, but if I started looking into that now, I wouldn't publish this post until way later. I'll have to leave that analysis for another time and/or another person.
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Love Hu for this. At least for someone like me, who finds David's mindset sort of relatable at times, it's important to have someone around to point out the flaws of compulsive martyrdom and give a reality check that doing something wrong in the pursuit of what you think is right is still (sometimes) an utterly fucked up thing to do. They're both such good characters, and they work off each other so well.
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Furthering the above point, even if David is doing it for what he believes to be "good" reasons, he's still ultimately manipulating people! You know, like his secret said!!! You don't have to believe that everyone is stupid to believe that you're smarter than them and you know what's best. But there's also the delicious irony that, despite Hu being the one to say this to David, she's also the one talking over Nico.
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I am so sorry to all the whitvid shippers in the crowd. Unless this is the dynamic you crave, idk.
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I wish that this line was voice acted just so that I could hear Ace's "uhh umm" Nico impression.
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Are Hu and Nico Lying?
We're back at it again.
Needless to say, this is way more suspicious than J, Veronika, and David's alibi. First of all, Hu and Nico are only two people, which makes it far more believable that they could conspire on the murder together. Second, unlike the former random group of characters, this latter pair are very intertwined. And third, this supposed breakfast occurred in a private location that only Hu and Nico could have possibly seen, as opposed to J, who said she was in a public location. If Ace or whoever had been in the public Dining Room at 7:30 AM, he could have called J out for lying, whereas no one can contradict the idea of Nico and Hu being in Nico's room.
However, for Hu to be lying and for Nico to not oppose her (despite pointing out the fact that they were interrupted) would strongly imply that they'd have to be in on the plan to murder Arei together. The easiest way to get there would be to assume that they were also in on the plan to murder Ace together. Understandable enough; I'm sure we're all aware at this point that Nico and what appears to be Hu's wire were both found at the scene of the Gym crime. They could've tried to murder Ace, got caught, and then switched targets to a different bully because Ace was too on guard? Nico would have been able to grab the fish, so there's no issue there.
I'm inclined to believe that Nico and Hu are telling the truth just because I personally don't believe either of them to be Arei's blackened, and I don't understand what either of their motivations to be an accomplice specifically would be in this situation. It would be pretty hypocritical of Hu to go off on David for trying to control whether everyone else lives or dies if she was currently the blackened trying to get everyone else to die so she could live. Or, even worse, if she was an accomplice trying to get everyone else to die so that Nico could live. That'd basically be what David was trying to do with a different coat of paint!
However, this could easily be a lie, especially given how suspiciously late it was compared to what J said. We had a whole David monologue in the middle. Those things last for ages.
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WHAT THE FUCK!!!
Okay, so, obviously, I could try to go over the implications of this, but with the next episode only a week away (I cry tears of joy), I think it's in my best interest to leave whatever I'll have to say about what Levi is doing until we have more information about his mindset. What a cliffhanger, though. Levi accomplice nation, it's currently looking... iffy.
Anyways, that was a fantastic episode! I loved getting a chance to learn more about Arturo, David, Xander, and the rest of the gang, with promise of more interesting things to come in the near future. I can't believe that they still haven't talked about the actual murder method at all. And that there were literally no trial mechanics in this video. Who needs 'em?
I hope you enjoyed my perspective on the episode. If you have any additions or questions, feel free to send me a comment or an ask. There's also a chance that I'll add onto this myself after seeing other people's ideas to respond to them. But for that, I'll have to read other people's ideas. I'm off to see what my mutuals have to say >:D See ya!
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nilovalentine Ā· 11 months ago
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OK NOW I CAN SLEEP I HAD TO RUSH THIS OUT. MET PAV. proceeded to die horribly from poison. oh well!
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dykebeeduo Ā· 10 months ago
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"the streamer awards have a guy is singing the fortnite song" put some FUCKING RESPECT ON LEVI LEVIATHANS NAME..... and he isnt just singing it HE MADE IT
EDIT: go watch the original and send him some adsense to levi, then watch his other videos!!!
youtube
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arthursfuckinghat Ā· 11 months ago
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May I Stand Unshaken
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jobrookekarev Ā· 3 months ago
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Okay closing thoughts are
Jo is wonderful and amazing and gorgeous and glowingly pregnant!! And I'm so excited for her!
Bailey and Ben are goals and I love them! Levi is amazing as always. I'm also kind of excited about Richard and Winston having this little side plot together.
Catherine is an bitch and Meredith is wrong to stop her research.
Also Amelia is amazing and I was not paying attention to where she said when she was on screen because she was so pretty! šŸ˜
Good luck to the intern this year and good night. I am kinda drunk and my boyfriend is a gem for putting up with me tonight!
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godslittlesadge Ā· 12 days ago
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finished raphael fight
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humanitys-strongest-bamf Ā· 1 year ago
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HES HALF DEAD AND STILL SAVING EVERYONES ASSES
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fuckyoudads Ā· 6 months ago
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I don't want to go on this field trip nobody here even gets me
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rainofthetwilight Ā· 6 months ago
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on ep8 rn
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soliloquet Ā· 2 years ago
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mc, trying to be polite and make friends with a guy she just met, who low-key kidnapped her in the middle of fit of family-induced rage:
levi: *tells an in depth story about the time his brother beat him up while stark naked in his bedroom*
mc:
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mandareeboo Ā· 9 months ago
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Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck this. I've never hated an animated man like this before.
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bioluminescentfrog Ā· 1 year ago
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ROOMMATE ON ROOMMATE VIOLENCE LSKDCKLASJDC
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nilovalentine Ā· 11 months ago
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Marksmanship
Really enjoying drawing levi in particular
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