#lestat didn't feel like lestat in qotd to me sorry

[hallowvamp]

I watch the season 3 teaser a lot, and I happened to check the comments this time. And of course there was a lot of praise and excitement for Rockstat. But I also noticed people who are upset that they aren't taking Rockstat in the direction they did in the QOTD movie. People are upset and shocked that they are taking him in the campy, queer, theatrical, glam rock direction. And I guess I just want to understand why? Why are people upset? Why are people shocked? The way they're writing Rockstat in the show makes A LOT more sense for the character than whatever the hell they did in QOTD.

This is literally Lestat. Lestat "theater kid" de Lioncourt.

[devilsminion-armandaniel]

apologies if you've been asked this already, but im curious what your hopes are for dm in the show (in terms of happened in the past/will happen in the future/both/secret fourth option(?) and what you think is most likely to actually happen, if those arent the same thing

(it turned into a pretty long post when I had it all typed out, sorry.) I think my hopes are pretty much in line with what I expect the show to do. I definitely think we're getting Past Devil's Minion. it's been hinted at in promo too much for us not to see Luke again. Luke did a lot of promo to begin with for a one episode character, especially if we wouldn't see him again for the rest of the series. Compared to Madeline who was in more episodes. Now, you could argue Luke is better know, but I don't think Luke is anywhere near a household name. We have seen all three them of them talk about Young Daniel. Eric wants to see Luke do a scene with his ex wife/ex-wives, Assad wants a threesome scene where Daniel and Luke merge into each other. And Luke would like it if Alice was Armand. I think if Young Daniel was a closed chapter the actors would be discouraged from talking about it, as to not raise fandom expectations the show had zero plans on filling. Not to mention we had Vampire Sam at the big opening of the season 2 and we had Luke there as well. No other TdV actor was there, only the 'big' characters and actors. And where we haven't seen much of Vampire Sam yet, we will be seeing him again in S3. So, I think Luke being there and pairing him up with Assad for promo was a deliberate choice. There are some things in the show itself that also make me more sure that Young Daniel will return. We know old Daniel has a faulty memory and that he is still missing pieces. And that he also doesn't remember everything properly from how thinks it went. His own auto-biography isn't a correct story, as highlighted by Louis being the stranger he once met. Memory is the monster. Daniel feeling freer in Paris to hold 'Alice' hands, Armand triggering Daniel's memories. Raglan knowing Armand wouldn't harm Daniel. Armand caring about Daniel enough to stop Louis from hurting him, from crossing lines, offering comfort and apologies. None of that makes a lot of sense if they weren't something at some point in the past. Especially because Jacob said in an interview that after San Francisco Armand and Louis kind of went their own way, where they didn't always check up on each other. Armand, according to Daniel, would disappear for long stretches of time in the book, which could easily be during the chase. Armand going from Daniel to Louis and back. We also don't really know much about Louis' past and if Armand was always there. Nor do we know when Armand discovered he could walk in the sun. We have a good 50 years of 'nothing' that we still need to see. We still have to learn when and why Louis believed Lestat was dead and murdered by him and Claudia. Or when Louis found out Claudia hated him. And when he forgot about that. Why did Louis stop killing in 2000. What happened that made him want to change. Who did he kill? If we still have to get all that knowledge I have to assume, there is knowledge in those years that we also need about Armand, Lestat and Daniel. So, I guess, I always simply look at the book as being slightly altered but not much. Past DM is still the QoTD chapter bare the turning which is now their separation. And instead of Daniel going mad and being with Marius, the show aged him, gave him wives and daughters. The present is the show's version of the Prince Lestat trilogy. When they reunite. Anne never wrote those scenes out, so the show has a lot of freedom to decide how to go about this. And I think with this set up, Devil's Minion can be the best couple on tv in a very long time. With all the drama, love, lust, longing, fighting, toxicity and warmth, that only they can have. With the whirlwind rollarcoaster romance and the heartbreaking separation of the past, to the challenging, yearned for, longed for, painful, healing and hopeful reunion. I'm not psychic though, but i do really hope this is the direction they are going in, it's the one I would pick and I think it's the one that will have the highest success rate storywise.

[nalyra-dreaming]

I just finished Qotd and i enjoyed it a lot less that the first two books. Iwtv and tvl read like gothic novels, not just in terms of the setting, but in terms of the characters and their interactions, in terms of philosophy.

Parts 3 and 4 of Qotd read like an Avengers movie. I liked the legend of the twins as a standalone story, but ultimately the whole arc left me feeling hollow and unsatisfied. What was the point of all that? The book never dwells on the destruction of nearly every vampire or on the hypocrisy of Akasha's past vs present actions (only on how wrong her current plan is). And what was the point of describing over and over how powerful Akasha is only for her to be so easily destroyed? There was no argument betwen the surviving vampires about whether or not they should join her. No character ever truly considered the thrilling question of "would I kill her if it meant death to me and all my loved ones?" and in the end the question itself turned out to be completely meaningless.

I remember Assad said that no one's a mustache twirling villain in TVC, but i think Akasha is exactly that. I don't know what Anne was thinking when she wrote her (are there any interviews?) but to me she's not a grey character, not even an interesting character. I can see how Marius can be compelling to some people, Akasha just isn't. I can't relate to Lestat's love for her.

The final argument is clumsy and incomplete (although I think the show will improve this part considering the changes to Armand and Louis). While I was reading it I kept thinking "Anne, you should stay away from trying to comment on world's problems, your own worldview is too western-centric for that". She should've kept to universal things like death, grief and loneliness and yearning for recognition, she writes them well.

Just in general I personally always found small scale stories to be more emotionally and intellectually fulfilling than "save the world" plots. So my question is - are the rest of the books lile Qotd? I know TVA isn't, I'm wondering about the rest.

I'm sorry you didn't enjoy QotD.

And I know what you mean!! I also... was taken aback by the finale at the first reading(s).

Akasha... grew on me over time. There is more to it all, but at the point of the story you are at right now she really can come across as a bit... shallow. Let's put it that way.

Interestingly enough I find the almost flat finale very clever - Akasha is stopped, by an action as simple as brutal. They all think she is unstoppable, they all think it is impossible to kill her without dying themselves - but it only takes one actually little thing - and a self-sacrifice, to do so.

There is only one decisive action needed to stop Akasha's hypocrisy, which no-one else dared. Yes, Anne wrote this whole... prophesy around it, if you will, but ultimately that is what it boils down to.

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And no, the other books are not like QotD. Each book is... decidedly different.

"The tale of the Body Thief"... is just that. "Memnoch the Devil" is a rather depressing excursion into mythology and God and the Devil, literally. "Blackwood Farm" and "Blood Canticle" cross over with the Blackwoods and the Mayfairs. "The Vampire Armand" is Armand's story and very, very different^^. "Merrick"... is mainly Louis' and the titular Merrick (Mayfair)'s story, but narrated by David. And the other three books are also a very wild ride.

No book in the chronicles is really like the other.

I hope you will find joy in reading them still.

[faerywhimsy]

TD;DR

No one: …

Me: So I know Lestat's the main character of Prince Lestat, but did any of the other beloved characters see the warning signs of the Voice/Amel in the world before it started going around compelling the old ones into killing younglings.

Sorry, killing young ones. And what might those warning signs have looked like?

Prince Lestat is meant to be read as a sequel to Queen of the Damned and, structurally, its many view points succeeds in that goal. However, thematically, there was so much a missed opportunity in actually seeing many of our favourite characters still existing in the aftermath of maybe as little as a decade still scrambling with the grief and loss and so many abruptly silenced minds...

None of them were... doing well... post-Akasha. But then the tension begins to build again.

Slowly, at first. Disconnected fragments across the continents of the world.

Because it's not like these immortals have ever been the best at communicating directly:—

The Coven and the Courtiers - A Guide (QotD 1.5)

Khayman is with Maharet, never straying too far from the jungles of the Amazon, when he picks up the first murmurings of malcontent from the spirit they moved from Akasha into Mekare. It is not happy within its new host. But perhaps it wasn't happy in its previous host either. Akasha sat as a statue under Marius for centuries before ever waking up. Khayman wonders if they're going to have that long again.

Marius is in Brazil with Daniel. He cannot help himself from scanning nearby minds, even as he claims a hope to remain on the sidelines of their world after the disastrous end of his two millennia caring for the Mother and Father. Marius is therefore one of the first who hears word of a very early and isolated Burning that doesn't seem to have any connection back to Akasha. But it would be foolish to ignore them completely, especially when the last Burnings are still so recent.

Pandora's returned to Arjun in India, but he has begun to act strangely. Because of the veil between their minds, she can only ever understand it through the words he offers for explanation. He wishes for the sanctuary of the earth. Inwardly, Pandora wonders if it was her urge to rush to Marius' aid when he was encased in the ice. She doesn't think it was her alliance with Santino, who is now of course dead to them all. She watches Arjun—before he goes into the ground—because he is the love of her life. She watches him because something deep within tells her something's not right.

Mael was filled with a profound sense of purpose during the first Burning. He would look after Maharet and Jesse. Yet, he had failed in that. Since the Burning, Khayman has taken over as Maharet's consort and companion and that's left Mael with... nothing. His maker Avicus has a new coven in Geneva now, with immortals as old as Gregory and as young as Davis. If Avicus thinks of Mael at all, he has no cause to think it. He's had a very long life but, without any sense of purpose calling him, there is no long any care in him. Not for himself, not for any his kind.

Bianca's in Paris with her new fledgling. They never imagine anything could hurt them. Why would they? The first Burning passed them over without so much as coming near them. There's a rumour passed around Europe lately that bringing one into the blood no longer seems to be happening the way it used to. Tales of mute zombies with hearts that won't beat—truly dead things in the place of fledglings—abound. But even that's easy to ignore when Bianca and her own fledgling feel so young, and in love, and immortal.

David is one of three who were mortal during the last interaction with a Queen of Vampires. He and Jesse talk about it sometimes. Jesse has kept up contact with the Great Family in South America, just as David kept some of his contacts within the Talamasca in Britain, younger ones who didn't mind seem to mind when he became a vampire. The same ones Marius' maker Teskhamen has also given his life into the hands of. They're the ones to bring David's attention to Burnings-related incidents as they start making the news on human television stations. They're the ones to ask him if this is something they should be worried about.

Gabrielle alone is able to say that—when the Queen descended on them the last time—she was the one in risk of losing her only remaining son. She knows many think her cold, but they don't know the pain of burying a child born of their womb. Gabrielle has hardened herself because it's the only protection she's found for her heart and her time in Turkey with the ancient handmaid Sevraine has not her changed utterly. Oh, Gabrielle's not blind, she knows her son will not let this world come to an end. Nor is she—first fledgling of Lestat—unaware of the Voice that whispers to him now.

Killer is in Philadelphia and is only just a century in the blood and one of the youngest outside the "Coven of the Articulate" to have survived Akasha's massacre. Killer makes up part of the Fang Gang, the coven that lies closest to Armand in New York City, less than two hours away. He may only be notable for his proximity to Armand, and his prior connection to Davis, but even he senses the change in Armand as word begins to trickle back to Trinity Gate and the Fang Gang are forced to disband.

Armand knows already he will protect his chosen family at all costs, from any future threats or Burnings. Was there a moment he considered taking them all underground where none would find them should anything resurface? Yes, though he'll never admit it. There was always that concern that the Sacred Core residing in Mekare would corrupt her. Is that what they are starting to see now?

Louis can hear nothing for himself, of course. But Lestat's visits to Trinity Gate begin to grow more and more sporadic and Louis can see Armand grows steadily more tightly wound as the world around them changes again. But still Louis counsels his love and companion to pause. Wait. Be vigilant, but if Khayman and Marius have told them they are already watchful of possible threat, they are likely not the only old ones to do so.

Benji's too much like Armand; he will protect the ones he considers his tribe. He never really understood how the old ones isolate themselves, hasn't really had enough interaction with them to recognise it in any real way. For him, immortals live like they do in Trinity Gate. Benji's radio show begins slowly, like a modern analog of Armand's Théâtre des Vampires, in that no human hearing it will believe, but blood drinkers will find what they need.

I was going to suggest Lestat's probably one of the youngest immortal to actually hear Amel's voice. Then I remembered how strong in the blood Daniel's always been depicted for his age. So yeah he's mad, but that's not helped by the fact Amel started yammering at him from the same point as Lestat. "He rages," said Daniel. "When he's gotten into my head, he's raged."

Cause it's a psychic blast, people. Even Lestat acknowledges, "the Voice is working on a number of fronts".

In any case, all of this is more or less the outline of what I've been thinking of as the QotD 1.5 head canon, something that's being played out in How They Get to Trinity Gate as we get to the pointy end of the fic.

[williamaltman]

Well I've been spoiled (more like spoiled myself) that Maharet dies and I'm not okay with it... I mean I don't think Mekare should die either, the post-QOTD status quo is pretty good, but if AR wanted to have Lestat be Amel's host (which I don't think he should, that just feels like typical "protagonist eventually becomes the most important person just because they're the protagonist" bullshit, and I think they get separated anyway which just makes it more pointless???) she could have killed only her and left Maharet alone at least... Like I just really liked the story of the twins, Mekare destroying Akasha, and for Maharet specifically, the way she kinda felt like the "success story" for immortality if you get what I mean. I feel like this might be my call to stop with these little books before they become too bad like people have warned... Not that Maharet dying in itself is objectively bad, but you know... 😔 I didn't really feel the summaries for the next ones besides Armand anyway (especially with the crossovers and shit), maybe I'll read just that. (The fact that the franchise was supposed to end before it got revived in the last three books which is where that happens also gets me more pissed off somehow... Like they already had a happy ending and it was robbed... But if it wasn't for that then Loustat wouldn't be endgame, which is probably way more important, but still...) (I'm probably the only person who cares about her here, sorry I'm just fresh out of QOTD and she was my new fav ok.) (Also apparently Amel is retconned as an alien???)

[positively--speculative]

As a Black fan who read Interview with the Vampire and The Vampire Lestat in the last half of my college years, I have to add something.

My interest in vampires started in high school, but I was not allowed to read Anne Rice's books. My very, annoyingly, protective mother just didn't like me reading anything having to do with vampires because she picked up on what was often innately sexual about them. It was a miracle I was even allowed to read Darren Shan. I, somehow, was able to watch the film adaptations of IWTV and QotD at that age, but I don't think I can remember if it was because I was allowed or if I was just really good at being sneaky. Either way, these characters were very much a part of what shaped my interest in vampires.

Now, when I finally picked up IWTV the novel, I had already completed a few classes that helped me develop my media literacy skills. I had taken British Lit, American Lit, Literary Criticism, History of Film, and Film Aesthetics. I struggled in some classes more than others, and I cannot say I was the perfect student. However, you can imagine my disappointment when I got my hands on the novel after I had heard so many good things about it and saw it for what it really was. I *knew* there would be racism, but I didn't expect it wouldn't be framed in a way to challenge the reader. The same went for the framing of Claudia. I knew that was going to be weird, as I picked up on the weirdness in the movie, but I didn't expect for Rice to write it in a way to suggest it was okay for Louis to look at her the way he did. I found myself *waiting* for the text to corner the reader by cornering these characters, but it never did. Shit, even someone as racist as F. Scott Fitzgerald, a white American man, was somehow better at framing racism in The Great Gatsby than Rice was. I was uncomfortable not because I was being challenged. I was uncomfortable BECAUSE I am a Black woman and I was expected to just roll with the racism and other disturbing things in these books.

The reality is that white readers don't have to think of this stuff because they are rarely made to, and Rice doesn't make any effort to make them. She writes shock content for the sake of it but never challenges what is shocking. Louis seeing Black people as "savages" who can only be something close to civilized through slavery is never challenged. Claudia's child body being sexualized is never challenged. The incest between Gabrielle and Lestat is never challenged. They're things that just happen. And again, I found myself waiting, waiting, and waiting for just one character, ANY character to go, 'Hold up, wait! Do you actually feel that way about Black people? Why are you looking at Claudia that way without reservation or reluctance? What do you *mean* you made out with your mother?' But it literally never happened.

Years later, I tried reading QoTD and felt incredibly bored so I stopped. Years after that, I tried skipping ahead to The Vampire Armand and nearly threw the book across the room because of the framing of Marius's relationship with him. And the way I see people continuously express love for these books without any sort of criticism is so weird to me.

Sorry, but as a Black reader, I am going to tell other Black readers to tread carefully if they think they can stomach all of this and to avoid it if they can't. I'm going to tell them it's okay not to read the books at all and just watch the show. This is all because I AM media literate. It's as OP said, protecting the peace of Black readers.

Anne Rice, Literature, and Literacy

As a Black book reader of Anne Rice, seeing racist IWTV fans doing the "Black kids in Brooklyn don't even know what a computer is" bit by stating Black fans that they are "anti-intellectual" for discouraging or telling Black fans to not read the books (or simply implying that reading the books aren't important) is disturbing.

Black people are allowed to protect their peace, and not read a book written with racist themes, by a well-known controversial author. Furthermore, the implication that not reading a specific series from an author that had a sharp downward turn in quality after Memnoch (I know hot take, I'm sorry) makes a person immature and unintelligent is a level of self-aggrandizing racism that not even Rick and Morty fans could pull off. Black people refusing to read racist content and instead choosing to prioritize content with Black characters and less harmful political themes being associated with a lack of culture and media literacy is repulsive.

Anne Rice fans (not fans of her books, but fans of HER) are in such a large fandom bubble that they have forgotten that people have been actively harmed by Anne Rice THE PERSON who was alive and isn't a figment of fandom imagination. You can READ her opinions and her political beliefs, you can read what she has said and done to real-life people who are still alive and are in fandom TODAY.

People have been harassed by Anne Rice, and people have been threatened and doxxed by Anne Rice and her supporters. She isn't a figment of imagination or a historical figure without living memories. Fanfiction.net isn't Fanfiction.net for no reason. AO3 isn't aggressively "like that" (positive and negative connotations) without cause. The existence of modern fandom culture was built by her horrid actions, and the further and further we get from acknowledging the harm and change she brought to fandom culture, the closer we get to losing fandom culture altogether.

I'm not going to say names, but once again it is repeated offenders who I have spoken about who have once again implied that Black fans are "encouraging" stupidity in Black people. That Black fans are unintelligent and that they are "uncultured" of their own volition. I'm not going to mince words here, the IWTV fandom is full of pieces of shit who believe that Black people are unintelligent and that their unintelligence is "self-inflicted". That their lack of interest in reading a singular book written by a controversial figure is a sign that they are inherently inferior. We've seen this with "Black culture encourages unintelligence" and "Black culture encourages violence" so seeing it within the confines of a space made up of queer losers (for lack of a better term as I am one myself) isn't surprising. But it is disappointing in ways that words, barring expletives, cannot describe. The xenophobia and racism towards African Americans in a show that centers African Americans is revolting. If I want to hear a rant about how Black Americans are encouraging vice and delinquency I could listen to Richard Spencer or Nick Fuentes wax poetic, I don't want to hear it from fans of a woman whose harassment campaigns towards critics are continuing from beyond the grave.

I don't want to be the person that begs people to read Black literature, but I wish a black person would walk up to white people and scoff when they say they haven't read N.K Jemisin or Octavia Butler. That we shall roll our eyes and say "What has literacy come to?" when someone says they don't know who Zora Neale Hurston is. Who walks around and rants about how "White culture is in such a bad spot because their people don't encourage listening to Jazz and Hip Hop. And how I shed my Black savior tears about how destructive their culture is,". Maybe then we would start to see shame.

[nalyra-dreaming]

Hi, I wanted to ask you if it's been discussed before about the landing during the fall in episode 5. I was watching it (definitely not for the 30th time 🙄) and I was thinking about how lestat flies up with louis really pretty high and when he's dropped despite being up that high and wind or anything else, louis lands pretty much where he was lifted from. Do you think that this is something to do with things not quite being as they seem in that scene or do you think I'm reading into it too much and it's just because it's a tv show and having him land further away wouldn't work for the logistics of the show? Sorry if this has already been discussed loads!

Hey nonny!

In other posts as part of the meta / analysis there, yeah, sometimes.

Which isn't to say that it's not worth discussing again^^. (This isn't an extensive meta on the "content" of episode 5, that has happened, at length, and isn't discussed here.)

I think there are actually quite a few... "weird" things about the fight, and the flight up is definitely one of them. That is not to say, and it bears repeating, that I doubt the whole thing, or think it didn't happen. There are simply too many facts aligning after that for it not to have happened at all. And I do not think they'll actually backtrack from what we've seen...

But.

The flight shown here is a kind of perversion of the one at the end of QotD. Someone with the knowledge of it could have used it to plant false memories. Someone who might have had a similar discussion with Lestat (just reversed), and then threw Lestat of a tower... it is important imho to remember that Armand and Lestat both experienced a fall like that in the books, but not Louis.

This obviously depends on where we are in modern Dubai timeline and what exactly that little game Armand and Louis are playing there ... is. (That's another aspect of it all - Armand and Louis are playing a game with Daniel, with each other, and I think, separately, too.)

The "world" logistics, aka the falling precisely to that place in the courtyard did feel off to me, too. Combined with the doubt of before, it does seem to me like Louis might never have left the courtyard after the "fight" tbh. There's a few storytelling visual clues, too. Claudia is crying normal tears, not blood tears. The way Lestat seems off, talking about his "nature". Now, mind you, I do not think that Lestat doesn't have that in him, unfortunately. But he did seem off there.

For "show" logistics, it was a pretty genius move, imho. Louis is where he (in the books) later attempts to commit suicide (in the show that will in all likelihood be somewhere else. Still.). He is where their "family" started. And the aforementioned "perversion" of that flight from QotD did twist book readers guts. For the show, the courtyard makes a lot of sense. And... as stupid as it may sound - but they don't really have to bother with logic - it's memories anyways. It's a tale.

A play.

It is also worth mentioning, imho (and I haven't seen that discussed yet), that it is Armand who does state (in TVA) that there is "no such fun on Earth than raping of an equal". ("Nice to drink his blood, to take him against his will.") Now, to drink from others by force, that "rape of an equal"... Lestat later does that, too, to David, in Prince Lestat (and it is interesting, because the aforementioned quote is about David, too, and it makes you wonder if he may have read it and wondered about it, but that's a whole different can of worms), but here... that forced feeding on Louis while going up is something that seemed off to me, too. Because Armand does that to Lestat, in TVL.

So yeah, lots of things off about the "flight".

The sheer logistics off it, the implementation. The circumstance. The details.

And I do not think we'll get an answer for this! At most, I think we'll get confirmation as to how Armand has influenced Louis (and he has imho, I mean it is book canon, and we're talking ARMAND) - and if we're real lucky... we'll get an answer to the why.

But I do not think we'll get a definite answer to the "how much".

From a storytelling perspective that's pretty ingenious imho, despite being frustrating for us :)))

[nalyra-dreaming]

Hello :) I just want to say I love your blog and your thoughts on iwtc. Sorry, another new fan here of the universe :)I absolutely adored Loustat and hopefully we'll see them share a scene in S2. I am a very feelings person and I've adored seeing Sam and Jacob doing press and how close they are with amazing chemistry. Itll just feels strange seeing Jacob probably doing promo with mostly Assad next season. I don't meant to sound nasty but I hope him and Jacob don't have the same chemistry and bromance as Jacob and Sam. I'll miss them too much :/

Also if we didn't get any Loustat cuteness on S2, and if S2 isn't as Loustat heavy, I hope the viewership doesn't dwindle because of it and we might not get better seasons where they have a HEA later on?

Hey nonny!

So happy you like my little corner :)) *hugs*

Welcome to the madness of the Vampire Chronicles :))) (especially with the other asks today^^^^).

I think no-one has seen the likes of Sam's and Jacob's chemistry for a long time... it totally floored us, the producers, the cast and all the interviewers I've read. And ... AMC and the producers (and writers etc) KNOW what they have there. That's gold, right there. And we already got the confirmation that Loustat will be one of the pillars of this show, and will continue to be so. Not without difficulties, of course, but... then where would be the fun in that 😈

Louis, Armand and Lestat share a very special... relationship in the books. I personally think Assad fits very well with them, and I for one cannot see how Armand and Lestat will interact onscreen, in past Paris and modern Dubai.

I do know what you're saying though, I too want aaaaaaaaaall the Jam Reiderson cuteness we can possibly get next season. But I wouldn't mind it either if they ... expanded it?! 😈

As per the promo - no worries. There is NO WAY that Sam will not be part of the promo tour. And there is NO WAY either that Lestat will not be massively part of season 2 as well. In fact I, personally, believe that the end of season 2 will segue into (the premise for) TVL... and for that - you need Lestat. If it will be cute though... we'll see. 😅

I've said it in another ask, I think a lot of the "old" fans are waiting (sitting on their hands, gnawing on their nails) for TVL to be adapted. And QotD properly. And the other books. We know they're planning that. AMC has the experience with long running shows. So I don't think especially future seasons are going to lose viewers. And the show has only started to be streamed in some countries. A colleague told me just yesterday that he watched it and was totally insane about it - in a meeting with others... Just sayin'. It'll find its way :)

Loustat will stay the dynamic they're building on, Rolin said so only the other day. Let's hope we'll get the full 10 season *laughs*

[nalyra-dreaming]

(Pt2) For all that Lestat bitched about Louis' memoir, it also helped him 'get' where Louis was coming from & it prompted him to finally be honest about himself too. They both had terrible communication skills & too much pride, but their respective books helped them both to empathise & forgive. Obvs we don't know for sure, but from the way Louis talks about Lestat in his interview, it doesn't feel like they've really had that heart-to-heart moment yet, like things are still somewhat unresolved.

Hey dear!

(Sorry, Pt1 seems to have been lost to tumblrs intestines? (Nothing in my inbox) But I infer that it was a good thing that Louis had IWTV published and that it might lead to problems if that didn't happen here??^^Maybe?? Correct me if I'm wrong!)

The book IWTV is indeed very important for them... in the book timeline. They both are able to reflect the other's stories without that other person's input(!) and then digest that... before reaching out and re-conciliating at the end of TVL/beginning of QotD.

In our universe that book is not out yet, so Lestat cannot have reached that understanding of Louis. Or have reflected. And Louis will then not have been able to read TVL... BUT - IF we are indeed in Merrick territory, and if the events of the suicide attempt etc happen, then their blood-sharing-circle also happens. I know it has not been addressed directly in the show, but it is simply too big of the lore - that they can see/know things in the blood I mean - to skip, imho.

IF we get the end of Merrick - then Louis and Lestat finally understand each other after drinking from each other to such an extent. After that event, after all the blood-sharing. It's in the books that way as well, even though it takes a while still... it takes a while to literally digest this is the event. It finally sets Louis free... imho that could easily be applied to Lestat here then, too.

And then... we would have tentative understanding for them, but not quite there yet probably (I bet that might take another catalyst, like Akasha?!^^), but much more equipped to know why than at any point before.

And no, I also think Louis hasn't had that heart-to-heart moment yet... but imho that could very well be it :)))