#leiftan spin off

[isatisnn]

Leiftan: I've always liked chasing you.

Erika: (Blushed, my gaze fix into his)

We know baby <3

Sweet memories. btw do you remember the spin off? Baby's a cute stalker and I love him for that.

[tetrakys]

Hello, how are you?, first of all thank you thank you thank you very much for writing a Valkyon route, it's amazing, you were able to capture the old versions of Lance, Valk and Leif and I love that. You recently responded with a guy ranking you like from the Otomes you played and I was wondering what your feelings are about Leiftan.

You're sweet thank you 🥰

Leiftan... eh... my feelings for him are complicated because I don’t like liars, I can't stand that he lied to Erika for most of TO. (Also I don’t like his clothes, yeah I'm shallow like that, however that balances with the fact that he's really pretty). On the other hand, the few times we saw him being unapologetically honest I loved him. I really liked those scenes in his spin-off and I think I could’ve seriously fallen for him if he'd been allowed to be himself for longer.

Keep in mind that we only saw his fake façade until episode 20 and that's pretty much around the time the game was taken from Chino. She worked on his spin-off herself though so really, the only real example of Leiftan’s true personality is his spin-off. Everything that comes before is his fake mask, and everthing that comes after is whatever the new scenarist thought he should be.

I wish we'd had time to know the real Lefitan, I would’ve been in serious danger 😔

In this sense he has been even more unlucky than Lance, because Lance never hid his personality so all the Ashkore scenes we had with him were his real self. Consequently, he was still mostly in character when Chino left and the old writer was working on the game, (episodes 22-29). It’s basically just ANE that destroyed him. Of real Leiftan, instead, will remain only his spinoff.

[nelielombrelune]

Eldarya ANE Episode 17 - Avis

J'étais tellement énervée par cet épisode que je n'ai pas pu m'empêcher de poster un commentaire sur le forum alors que j'avais dit que je ne perdrais plus mon temps et mon énergie à essayer d'être constructive quand nous n'avons jamais aucun retour de Beemoov...

°~ Salut ~°

Bon je ne vais pas y aller par quatre chemins, j'ai beau chercher à adoucir mon verdict je ne trouve pas vraiment d'arguments en votre faveur. Clairement, je n'ai pas aimé.

Pas "je n'ai pas aimé" dans le sens "le développement de l'histoire ne va pas où je voudrais". Non, j'ai pas aimé dans le sens je ne comprends pas ce que je fous là.

Que s'est-il passé dans cet épisode ? Rien. Que s'est-il passé dans l'épisode précédent ? Rien.

Nous sommes à quelques épisodes de la fin de la saison et vous perdez votre temps et surtout le notre dans des errances vides de contenu et de sens.

Si encore ces apartés étaient riches de développement des personnages, de leurs relations et évidemment de la romance désormais pré-mortem avec le CDC.

Mais non. Pas de contenu, juste du blabla dans le vent, des digressions WTF (sérieux vous imaginez Chrome Nevra et Lance danser sur du flutiau (ou quoi que cela puisse être) à l'EVG de Chrome ?) Je ne veux pas tomber dans le cliché de la beuverie obligatoire et virile mais à un moment faut arrêter. Si vous êtes incapables d'imaginer un lore propre à votre univers vous ne pouvez pas copier des traditions bien connues et ne pas en respecter un minimum les codes. Chose que vous semblez avoir parfaitement intégrée avec l'EVJF de Karen (et c'est bien dommage) et son strip-tease fantasmé bien malaisant.

Bref, j'ai pas aimé.

J'ai pas aimé être encore une fois obligée de subir les incohérences scénaristiques ("oh la la je suis débordée comment je vais faire ?" => "tiens si j'allais méditer avec Leiftan et Koori"), surtout que je ne peux blairer ni Chrome ni Karen quels que soient les changements que vous ayez tenté d'apporter à leurs personnages dans ANE. Leur développement dans TO était tellement catastrophique qu'en ce qui me concerne il leur collera à la peau jusqu'à leur mort (si seulement).

Je n'ai pas aimé me faire encore raquetter pour une tenue sans aucun intérêt (sérieux la tenue Sand Walker était incroyable, pourquoi vous nous ressortez une pauvre robe-remake de la robe Shiny Lady on voit bien que vous n'avez fait strictement aucun effort).

En fait je crois que j'ai eu l'impression de jouer un mauvais spin-off pour les fan de Chrome et Karen dont je ne fais pas partie. Episode : intérêt 0 Tenue : intérêt 0 Moment avec le CDC : intérêt 0.

Je vois bien que vous essayez de contenter les joueur.se.s qui déplorent depuis une quinzaine d'épisodes l'absence flagrante et plombante de f*cking ROMANCE mais vous faites complètement fausse route.

Pas que je me plaigne d'avoir des scènes de c*l hein loin de là SI ENCORE ELLES ETAIENT BIEN ECRITES. Mais là pardon mais qu'est-ce qu'on se fait ch*er.

Pour moi toutes ces scènes sont indifférenciables les unes des autres. On pourrait les superposer, les mélanger sans que personne ne s'en rende compte. Je finis par me dire que vos scénaristes devraient trainer sur des forums -18 pour s'inspirer un peu parce que là désolée mais on s'em**rde.

Pas de frisson, pas de tension, pas de frustration, les clefs d'un moment vraiment torride. Comme tout le reste c'est plat, lourd, redondant. On finit par cliquer sans vraiment lire ces bribes de phrases. De quelques mots. Sans aucune alternance de rythme. Qui cassent complètement l'immersion. On clique. Encore.

Encore une fois je ne me plains pas qu'on ait droit à des scènes de s*x mais ce qu'on vous demande c'est du CONTENU b*rdel je le dis à chaque commentaire j'ai envie de pleurer. Du développement des personnages, de leur background, de voir l'évolution de leurs sentiments, de leur relation !!! BON SANG mais qu'est-ce qu'il faut qu'on fasse ?? Je suis désespérée de toute façon à ce niveau de l'histoire je pense que c'est peine perdue mais ce que ça peut m'énerver !

Je suis sur la route de Lance et on ne sait RIEN de lui, de son cheminement sur les 7 années qui se sont écoulées, de son évolution, BON SANG les Redemption Arc offrent tellement de potentiel de développement, ce sont les persos les plus riches ! Et vous en faites une potiche plantée là pendant qu'on demande aux purrekos combien de litres de punch on veut pour cet EVG MAIS ON S'EN F*UT P*TAIN "Merci d'être resté avec moi gnagnagna" mais c'est pas ça qu'on veut ! On veut de la profondeur on veut voir son côté tourmenté sa culpabilité sa noirceur ses doutes GNIIIIIII vous m'énervez vous pouvez pas savoir ce que vous m'énervez.

Le prétexte du mariage (même si je m'en fous) offrait plein de possibilité d'avoir une vraie conversation avec le CDC, de faire le bilan de leur non-relation (clairement c'est plus un plan c*l qu'un couple), de parler de leur éventuel avenir, de la façon dont chacun peut se projeter dans le futur à court ou long terme, de leurs projets de leurs envies enfin de se connaître quoi, plutôt que de se regarder dans le blanc des yeux et de finir inlassablement par b*iser le soir, dans une chambre, dans un lit, comme un vieux couple qui a jeté l'éponge, bon sang qu'est-ce qu'on s'ennuie.

Bref. J'ai pas aimé.

Vous nous proposez des épisodes tellement en dent de scie que je finis par me dire que vous êtes des sadiques et que ça vous fait marrer de massacrer à grand coup d'incohérences et de platitude votre propre création et de nous voir encore nous battre pour tenter d'en sauver les petits morceaux qui pourraient valoir le coup.

Je ne sais pas où on va. Ca sent encore la fin bâclée et WTF avec un réveil miraculeux des pouvoirs d'Aengel de Leiftan et de la gardienne pile au bon moment vraiment on le voyait pas venir (cf l'évolution conjointe et aberrante du seifaun et du draflayel dans l'épisode précédent).

Ce qui m'atterre le plus c'est que je vois des commentaires positifs. Je dois vraiment pas être au bon endroit.

Allez on se voit au mariage hein, je serai la meuf avec une robe démodée qui picole au bar.

°~ RIP ~°

[iamguiltyofeverything]

List of people Leiftan will not kill for now doesn't hate:

-Eweleïn

-Kero

-Kids

That's it.

[my-love-for-leiftan]

Google fordítós wtf

[deadendlily]

Hello,

I made a walkthrough for the Leiftan spin off. I’m following Ezarel’s road, so... expect a lot of drama LOL. But honestly, I’m starting to be in love with both of them. Chosing between them was so hard, and I’m still considering doing a replay to follow Leiftan’s road. 

Anyway, here’s the link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uKUyIR-jFE

Thanks !

[ezarelz]

Critique of Eldarya - Part 1

CHROME SPIN-OFF GROOMING

I would like to preface this by stating that I used to love Erika as a character, and thought of her occasional stupidity as flaws of imperfection, which I welcome in characters because I dislike Mary Sues. I’ve since heavily changed my mind on her as I’ve come to witness more and more of it and understood that something within her is rotten and that she still gets labelled to be a “hero”, when she has fundemental flaws and a questionable moral compass. This post constitutes one of the many instances that led me to dissociate from Eldarya’s MC and create my very own OC, whose behaviour is canonically separate from that of Erika. 

Let us take a look at one of Chrome’s Monchon Effect spin-off’s last scenes: 

Erika: “Chrome’s hands slid behind my back to press me against him.”

Erika: “He then hid his face in the crook of my neck.”

Erika: “I adventured myself into giving him a sweet kiss on his cheek to reassure him and show him that I was there for him, if needed.

The last thing a minor who’s opening up about his literal dead parents needs if for you to use his vulnerability as an invitation to further explore the attraction-wise ambiguous territory. 

Erika: “I was totally troubled by the suave tone of his voice...”

Again, why is a child’s “suave” voice tone troubling you? Had any adult claimed to be troubled by my little brother’s voice, and described it as suave, heads would roll.

Erika: “I, too, wrapped my arms around his body and I felt him to tighten his grip on me. His warm breath caressed my neck.”

Honestly, who speaks of a child and says “around his body” when trying to comfort them. Wouldn’t a normal person say around him? The emphasis she puts on their physical touch and contact is absolutely disconcerting. Also don’t get me started on her rant about his warm breath and how it “caresses” her neck. 

Chrome: “Merci... You’re by far the most adorable people I’ve ever known.”

Erika: “Chrome...”

Erika: 

A) “I know that this isn’t reasonable, but I want to enjoy these moments in his arms.”

B) “By fear of what could occur, I let myself out of his arms.”

You know it’s not reasonable? But you judge it best to do it anyway because of your... desire to feel his embrace? Let me ask you this, Erika, what COULD occur between a literal minor and you, a clear-mind, conscious adult, if you hadn’t let yourself out of his arms?

Chrome: “Erika...”

Erika: “I can feel my cheeks burning.”

END OF SCENE

I’m apalled. I’ve contacted Beemoov numerous times for them to adress this, and I’ve done it politely, but their active avoidance of the issue is maddening. I’m tired of being told that the message was passed to superiors, only for no changes to arise. I’ve asked for an apology on the nature of this scene, a trigger warning for literal grooming to the very least, and for necessary changes to occur, but nothing was done. Instead, they ignore messages and pass the message onto others, until no one can be blamed for the lack of concrete actions.

The issue remains, and it is not the first time we come across minor-adult attraction-based ambiguity/relationship in the game (ex: Colaia and Jamon, which I will address in a second part of this critique). The message it sends to players, some of which are about Chrome’s then age (as 16 y/o are allowed to play) is extremely harmful. It dedramatizes grooming, and normalizes it in a way that could lead some victims of it to not be aware of inappropriateness of such thoughts and actions on an adult’s part. Unacceptable. 

I’ve been pretty vocal about my lack of association and empathy for Eldarya’ original MC Erika (a university graduate) for various reasons, but this is a line I’d never have expected her to cross. I cannot and will not associate with her quasi-criminal actions, and find it absolutely disgusting that Beemoov shoves it down our throats. It’s hard to enjoy a game when your character (OC) is so heavily associated with the MC, whose canon actions are despicable. There is much more to dislike about her, but this is on a whole other level. Erika being a predator is NOT okay, despite Chrome’s inability to see the situation for what it is. He was an impressive, vulnerable child whose “looking adult” incident (subject of the spin-off) was about his sentiment of being unattractive and his negative self-perception. Erika used that to satisfy her own touch-deprivation or whatnot. I cannot excuse that, nor will I ever do. 

I am well aware that due to prior choices during the spin-off, the cost of the spin-off and the fact that it IS a spin-off about Chrome instead of an LI, not everyone knew about this turn of events. In fact, some players were not even offered this scenario, but a shorter one (they were spared). However, if you just now know, I urge you to let me know if you would be willing to support me in bringing this to Beemoov’s attention. By myself, nothing occurs, and my messages are, again, either ignored or passed onto others until no one actually answers. I would be polite one more time, but I’d remain firm as this is not the first time I’ve spoken to them about such content. 

Final point, can we talk about how they charged us for this? Making profit off of a traumatizing life experience is so, so low. 

Let me know what you think of this all. 

I’ve tagged you if you once asked me about this issue in other posts, to which I said I was going to make a post to address the issue (here it finally is): @momiyi-chan @velleitxs

[eldaryadiary]

Ok mais pourquoi Erika fait cette tête ridicule 90% du temps ?

[dearaircraft]

Apenas repostando ~ 

 Amy e Leif. 

[blackvirus999]

“ I'm surrounded by Idiots...“

[isatisnn]

The NSFW.

And... We reach the ending.

(I pushed my room's door and went inside hush, without a noise) is it redundant or is it simply me?

(A priori, nobody seems to be sleeping here... But you can never be sure.)

(Leiftan followed me inside, without leaving my hand)

I thought we were never to get a time alone.

(I've made one or two steps in the room)

(I can feel Leiftan's eyes on me)

(i'm able to sense his desire when he looks at me)

(Without turning to him, I unbottoned my belt to let the upper parts of my clothes drop, casually, to the ground)

( I felt his desire, as seeing myself through his eyes)

(Veering towards him, I offer my chest to his gaze)

It would be more fair if you took your clothes off, don't you think?

(The aengel did as I requested. i can hear the blood pounding in his temples)

(I took my shoes off and slid the trousers by my legs)

(It's an unique experience to feel the desire of another person towards me as if it was mine)

I have the feeling you want to come to the bed with me...

(He doesn't says anything. It's not necessary)

(He came closer, drawn me against him, and kissed me)

(His skin against mine is soft and warm)

(My hands wander by his arms, his back, his buttocks)

(I take him to the bed and I laid there)

(I know how much he wants me)

(However, he takes time to kiss my lips, my neck)

(To kiss the place where my breast initiate, and my stomach, the skin of my thighs...)

(His mouth caresses me with never ending softness, I shudder under his kisses)

(I attracted him to me, clutched him between my legs and smooch him)

Make love to me, Leiftan. I know you want as much as I do.

(His arms surround my body)

(I have guided him gently inside me, letting out a sigh of pleasance)

(He moves slow-paced and doesn't wants to be rude)

(Attentive about my pleasure, he appreciates it as his own)

(And I perceive his. Doesn't wants to hurry)

(He wants to take his time, to let our satisfaction grow dawdling)

(His body inside mine, my mind inside his)

(A special and delicious sensation, like we were one body)

(His gaze perchs on mine)

(We dont require of looking to our eyes to discern what the other feels)

(Yet we look, focused on each other's face)

(We kiss in the lips, the cheeks, the forehead)

(Our bodies move in harmony, our breaths become short)

(He knows what I want, what I like)

(Anticipating to my wishes as I do for his)

(I'm enjoying his body, his skin's heat underneath my fingers)

(He's taking advantage of my sighs, I can sense him ablaze because of them)

(My respiration becomes more and more brief, my sighs sound more like groans...)

(Each one of our motions make my delectation intensity soar)

(I reteined myself from yelling when I reached the climax)

(He felt my pleasure. His adapting to mine)

(Trembling, we stayed together for a moment, one against the other)

(He finally lays at my side)

(I can't think with clarity)

(I've snuggled against him and i'm taken into his arms)

(My head spins. I kissed the back of his hand)

(I'm absolutely relaxed and in peace)

(Sun could rise at any moment...)

(I wish I could stop the pase of time, to remain in his arms...)

(I don't want the dawn to come)

Gosh, finally! I was laughing all the time I had to convert this into my poor english vocabulary. Personally, I liked more the previous episodes's. But well, everyone has their own taste. The illu, still, better than the previous nsfwish one.

(Even if tomorrow is a day to be celebrated... If this night could prevail for a month or two...)

-- The end --

[tetrakys]

there's one thing that I don't understand, why was the new writer of Eldarya and MCL took over the writing and made Chino step down while she was the creator ?

Are you referring to Eldarya ANE's writer? No, he has nothing to do with this decision. If you check the credits page you can see that Eldarya has multiple people working on the plotting of the stories:

The creator/art director is the person who has the original idea of the game and characters and makes decisions on how the plot should evolve. The creator basically decides characters' backgrounds, how the story starts, how it ends and main plot points. This person is Chino.

Then there is the proofreader (I guess it's also called product manager?), who is the person that decides what happens in each episode and reads the script of the game written by the writer and makes changes. This is the person that sets the tone of the episode and tells the writer how characters should behave and what kind of interactions they should have. Chino used to do that at the beginning of TO, until the management of the company decided that someone else should take over. This happened I think between episodes 20-22. One of the last things she personally worked on was Leiftan's spin-off, since then she has no idea what's been happening in Eldarya episodes anymore.

Then there is the writer, who is the person who actually writes the whole script, the actual dialogues, but they are lead by the project manager, so they don't make decisions on the plot. This person used to be Hikaru until episode 29 of TO, after that the current writer arrived, they wrote episode 30 and the whole ANE.

That's why, despite Chino having left, episodes 21-29 don't feel extremely different, because at least Hikaru was still there and knew the characters and their personalities, but you can see that the events in the plot had already started to make little sense. That's when Eldarya stopped having any flirting and fluff and we were only given a few random sex scenes, almost as if to tick a box to say yeah this is still a romance game. Also the whole Blue Sacrifice, the LIs' backstories etc plotholes over plotholes because they decided to change the scenarist mid-game. And it's my opinion that the second project manager clearly didn't bother to pay attention to the previous 21 episodes nor try to really understand what was Eldarya's real story. I know this story now (which is what I'm explaining in the fic) and I can say that it really doesn't take an effing genius to follow a simple plot. Nor be consistent with the characters' real personalities.

I am angry with the writer who messed up Lance, Leiftan and Nevra, but in truth the guy only arrived when TO was over, the project manager/proofreader should've told him on the first day "look, this is wrong, you should make the character behave like this instead". Why didn't they do that? Why did the company decide to risk messing up the game by removing the creator and making work someone else on the scenarios? And why make this person work also on another game (uncoven) instead of focusing on the one they had just assigned them? I don't know, I'm not Beemoov's CEO. All this seems so absurd to me, who would ever make such stupid decisions? The same people who decided it made complete sense to remove love interests from otome games apparently 🤡 I'm sorry if I sound really salty. I loved Eldarya with all my heart, I'm never going to get over the fact that this game died because of shitty managerial decisions.

[aokane-eldarya]

A player, a few weeks ago : “Leiftan manipulates the gardienne to fall in love with him because it's part of his machiavellian plans!” Spin off : *Leiftan did not foresee the arrival of Erika* *He was not aware of her connection with the Oracle* *He's trying to cut that link* *He spends all the spin off saying he loves her* *He does everything to help her without her knowing* *He promises to never manipulate her and respect her decision.* The same player, now : “I maintain what I said, he is not in love with her, he uses her, he manipulates her!”

Me : 

I have never felt so embarrassed for anyone.

[hsakurausasuke]

Chino, if you see this, we love Leiftan (some of us at least), please, don't hear the people that hate him.

Keep my baby alive

[rinsy-o]

what an idiot

[ezarelz]

Not only Chrome spin-off,i was extremey bothered on nevra's route how gardienne glamourises pain and not consent.nevra didnt want to bite her and she was all the time kinda forcing him.

please,dont let that fucked up bitch to get close to me.

Hey Anon! :) Thank you for pointing that out.

I was already working on a part two of my critique which spoke of her lack of respect of her partner’s boundaries, which???? Beemoov literally makes it a point to make the guys ask if we are ready, but somehow that doesn’t apply to her? 

I was quite um tired of always reading about her sexually masochistic tendencies every single time Nevra bit her, but I was going to let it slide as I don’t take this as canon for MY gardienne. However, those that one time she literally force-fed Nevra in episode 29??? I had to close the tab for a second. It reminded me of the question of consent of needed blood transfusion among Jehovah witnesses in Canada (given that they cannot receive blood that isn’t theirs, if I recall correctly), the supreme court decision was that their choice must be respected, regardless of the need for blood transfusion. This is exactly how I see it, if Nevra needs blood, you don’t force him when you see him hesitate. You can speak to him, reassure him of your willingness, but for you to simply disregard his view of it, not adress it and shove your sliced arm to his mouth is fucked up. Also why does she always slice her arm??? Like,,, he has fangs, girly. 

Leiftan was also subjected to that in another episode, but I’d rather keep it for the critique because I need to provide greater context for other readers. 

I’ll provide screenshots to support this, too. 

But yes, very good point, one I agreed with to begin with. So glad to see I wasn’t the only one to notice!