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I can’t get over how funny I find it when I look through the AFTG AUs on AO3 and every single one tags Andrew’s job but no one tags Neil’s job because because in a ‘normal’ circumstance we’ve all collectively decided he’s just that one strange guy everyone knows who shows up places and always seems to have an abundance of money but is never actually doing anything apart from stress-running and looking out of windows suspiciously
#“lawyer andrew’ ‘professor Andrew’#then Neil’s usually just there roaming the streets or something#he may not even exist when no one perceives him#shrodingers Neil if you will#aftg#all for the game#andrew minyard#neil josten#the foxhole court#tfc#andreil#all for the gay#aftg shitpost#shitpost
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Okay so in my last Kevin post, I mentioned I have analysis' on how Kevin isn't a coward and how his trauma still affects him and you guys wanted to read it so here!
Why Kevin Day Isn’t a Coward:
Essentially this comes down to 3 specific points in the fandom and even in the books since people are very adamant about the whole coward thing. The two things that people (in book and fandom-wise) use to argue that Kevin is a coward are:
Kevin is still afraid/ doesn’t stand up to Riko
That he left Jean behind in the nest.
Starting off with the first point. Kevin is still afraid and doesn’t stand up to Riko for the majority of the books. Firstly, we need to understand that Kevin has been abused from an extremely young age in the Nest and was conditioned into thinking that kind of behaviour was normal. And by that I mean specifically Riko’s abuse but before that, it was Coach Moriyama that abused both of them.
He was stuck in the Nest for over a decade where his only role was “property” the entire time. That was all he would ever be to them and additionally to that, he wasn’t even allowed to be better than Riko. His entire life from the very start has been about exy but it was only after his mothers death where it became life or death.
During tfc when Neil finds out how Kevin’s hand really broke Wymack says “But the day Kevin stops playing forever is the day he dies. He has nothing else. He wasn't raised to have anything else. Do you understand? We cannot lose to the Ravens this year. Kevin won't survive it."
He wasn’t raised to have anything else, exy is quite literally his everything, and without it, he has nothing and nobody. In this same scene, Wymack says, “Kevin doesn't talk about his time at Evermore, but I could tell it wasn't the first time Riko or Moriyama laid a hand on him. It was just the first time Kevin was smart enough to pack his bags and walk away.”
We never find out in detail what exactly happened to Kevin in the Nest but in TRK when Neil goes there we can see how deluded and obsessed Riko is with Kevin.
Neil moved up alongside him and regretted it almost immediately. Postcards of faraway cities both foreign and domestic were taped to the walls. Beneath each one were scraps of paper. Kevin's now-familiar scrawl listed dates and explanations for the travels. Most of them were games. Some indicated photo shoots and interviews. Books lined the shelves built into the headboard and Neil knew from skimming the spines they were Kevin's. Kevin was majoring in history for reasons Neil couldn't understand; these dry titles were the sorts of things he would find fascinating. It gave Neil chills to see his space preserved like this. It was like Kevin had gone out on an errand, not that he'd transferred to another team entirely.
Riko is so sure that Kevin is going to come back to him because he’s instituted such fear into him, he doesn’t think Kevin has the strength to stand up to him. Which he does, but people don’t seem to realise you can’t undo over a decade's worth of trauma overnight.
Anyway, during Neil’s time in the Nest, he’s treated very similarly to how Kevin would be considering he was in his place but also not as harsh because they had to send Neil back to the Foxes inevitably.
"I am going to love hurting you," Riko said, "like I loved hurting Kevin."
What follows this is Riko tying Neil down and torturing him with a switchblade. By the time Neil leaves the Nest he doesn’t remember anything from the experience- he was so traumatised by it that he doesn’t remember it at all. (It also kinda sucks how Neil gets more sympathy for being in the nest for 2 weeks than Kev did for being there for over a decade.)
Putting this into perspective, Kevin went through that for so much longer and doesn’t get nearly enough of the same sympathy Neil did. Neil returned and Kevin got punched for letting him go even though he tried persuading Neil not to. Kevin has always had Neil’s best interest at heart.
Kevin shook his head and bulled on when Neil started to argue. "The master wants to salvage you. He's going to sign you to the Raven lineup in spring. So long as you keep quiet and keep your head down he won't tell the main family he's found you." "I'm not a Raven," Neil said. "I never will be." "Then run," Kevin insisted, low and frantic. "It's the only way you'll survive."
Kevin was willing to sacrifice the only chance he had to prove his autonomy to the Moriyamas if it meant Neil would be safe. Without Neil, they wouldn’t have enough players to qualify and they wouldn’t be able to play at all. (Again: “But the day Kevin stops playing forever is the day he dies. He has nothing else. He wasn't raised to have anything else. Do you understand? We cannot lose to the Ravens this year. Kevin won't survive it.")
Not to mention the whole “Kevin was silent for an endless minute, then said, "You should be Court." It was barely a whisper, but it cut Neil to the bone. It was a resentful goodbye to the bright future Kevin had wanted for Neil. Kevin recruited Neil because he believed in Neil's potential. He brought him to the Foxes intending to make a star athlete out of him. Despite his condescending attitude and his dismissals of Neil's best efforts Kevin honestly expected Neil to make the national team after graduation.
And even after that, he promised to teach Neil, because at the end of the day, Neil was still Neil and he never gave up on him once.
And Neil understood that being on the run for 8 years was more preferable to the Nest.
“But all Neil had to do was look at Kevin to know he would have hated that life
too.”
Sorry I kinda went off track there anyway we can also see how much Riko’s presence still affects Kevin especially in scenes like the Kathy Ferdinand show.
“Any animosity Neil felt toward Kevin for forcing him onto this show evaporated. He couldn't be angry when Riko was here, not when Riko was to Kevin what Neil's father was to him. Petty anger had nothing on this full-fledged terror.”
Obviously, we all know what a dickhead Neil’s dad was to him so Neil comparing the fear of his father being similar to Kevin’s fear of Riko is so important because it just puts into perspective how afraid Kevin is here face-to-face with his abuser the first time since said abuser permanently disabled him.
But what I don’t think is that Kevin has been standing upto Riko since the start because right after this when they were backstage, Kevin physically stopped Riko from hurting Neil even if it meant getting hurt by Riko again.
A black look twisted Riko's expression into something ugly and unrecognizable. He reached for Neil, but Kevin caught his arm to stop him. Riko slammed his elbow back into Kevin's face without missing a beat.
This scene is probably the best to describe how downright afraid Kevin is of Riko but there are others when Kevin has multiple panic attacks at just the thought of Riko or being in the same vicinity as him and rightfully so! Riko abused him, manipulated him and then took away the only thing he had. And Kevin was just forced to think this was okay.
And a lot of characters and fans see his fear as cowardice instead of a normal trauma response. This is also because Neil tends to speak out more against Riko than Kevin (You know I get it…) but unlike Neil, Kevin has had direct repercussions towards him for the “mistake” of talking back to Riko which of course makes him hesitant.
He knows the Moriyamas could drag him back at any moment and he's terrified of that happening.
Which leads to the second bit of “Kevin doesn’t stand up to Riko.” when many times, he has.
The most prominent example is in TRK, just after the foxes lost their first match to the ravens.
“You have fallen so far, Kevin. You should have stayed down and saved us the trouble of forcing you back to your knees." "I'm satisfied," Kevin said. It was the last response any of the Foxes expected from him. They forgot about Riko in favor of gaping at Kevin. "Not with their score or performance, but with their spirit. I was right. There's more than enough here for me to work with."
Kevin chose the foxes over the ravens- over Riko. He doesn’t allow their loss to become something Riko can use against him but instead something to affirm his current standing with them. This is also the first game Andrew played without his meds meaning he’s crashed by the end of it.
Kevin distracted the Ravens from Andrew's unsteadiness by facing them.
Kevin willingly turned to talk to his ex-abuser and his team if it meant Andrew wouldn’t be under fire. Most people only see Kevin and Andrew as Andrew protecting Kevin but Kevin protected Andrew just as much.
And of course we have the whole tattoo removal and the last exy match against the foxes but I need everyone to understand that those are so so so important. Kevin spent the entire series save the last quarter of the last book viewing himself as Riko’s property. Riko refers to him as such and even without Riko near him, his control is still strong over Kevin.
So Kevin removing his tattoo and replacing it with something with a higher hierarchical structure than Riko’s status as king is so detrimental, it’s a turning point for him because he’s viewing himself as his own person now. And Kevin scoring the winning goal brings us full circle because the last time he did that with Riko, he ended up disabled and shunned.
This brings me to my second point about Kevin running away from the nest. Alot of people see Kevin escpaing from the nest and leaving behind Jean as an act of cowardice. This bit gets a bit complicated because in no way shape or form am I trying to compare trauma’s or anything like that.
But to continue on. The ravens had a very strict policy that we got to see during Neil's experience one of which being that no matter how injured they were, they were still expected to show up to practice. The more mistakes they made the more punishment they'd find themselves in. Not showing was practically a death wish.
Now Kevin having his hand fucking broken would mean thay either he doesn't practise and get punished or practise with his fucked up hand and further damage it. If he stayed I wholeheartedly believe he would've died.
He ran away to save his life and that will never be cowardice not once. He didn't go to Wymack immediately when he found out because he knew what kind of target he'd paint on Wymacks back.
"He was trying to protect him," Neil said. "If Coach knew Kevin was his son, he'd have tried to take him from Edgar Allan." Nicky grimaced. "They'd have never let Kevin go."
He only left when he had no other option. He had nothing left, the one thing he did have was taken away from him, he had no purpose and for once Riko didn't care enough about him to pay attention. And he used that to run.
Leaving Jean behind was something he always regretted, but it was a game of survival. Jean was a gift to the Moriyamas, he was also property to them and couldn't leave. And if the roles were reversed I strongly believe Jean would've done the same thing.
Also Kevin finds a place for him layer with the trojans because he knew that being a fox wouldn't be good for him.
"He isn't safe with us," Kevin said. "I won't give him false hope."
Staying in the nest would've been suicide for Kevin. He's one of the biggest victims in the series but nobody talks about it enough I fear and there's so much to learn about him via context clues etc.
And the saddest thing in my opinion is that Kevin knew was it was like to be loved, he was raised by his mother for a few years before going to the Moriyamas.
ANYWAY to conclude, I suck at essays and I hope I've worded everything well and what I'm trying to say gets across. Kevin is not a coward, never has been a coward and never will be. He's survived through such a damaging and abusive environment only to get moved to a separate environment where everyone just ridicules his defense tactics and he has no real sense of support.
His reasons for what he does always stems from the fact the he doesn't want to go back to being under Riko and Coach Moriyamas "care" and that he's afraid. And most of the time it's things he can't shake from the nest.
Like when he pushes the foxes its so they're always at their best and so none of them get hurt or punished for mistakes. He pushed himself the hardest because he doesn't want to directly affect his teammates.
Or the celebrity persona he was forced to develop.
Or how he makes sure everyone is staying healthy and that they don't force themselves to play when sick or injured because he knows what it's like to be forced to play like that day after day.
AND IVE GONE OFF COURSE AGAIN yeah I kinda mashed together both analysis' of how Kevin's trauma from the nest affects him and how he's not a coward into one thing AND THIS IS SUPER LONG so if ur still here thank you very much for reading I really hope this makes sense
#kevin days defense lawyer right here#this is the longest thing ive ever posted on tumblr#aftg#kevin day#aftg kevin#neil josten#aftg neil#andrew minyard#matt boyd#aftg series#aftg andrew#andriel#kandreil#kevneil#kandrew#david wymack#riko moriyama#FUCK HIM#jean moreau
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*through gritted teeth* Neil .
#frankie posts#bg3 spoilers#astarion#bg3#bg3: vid#astarion acunin#small vid but. neil .#you’ll be hearing from my lawyer
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Undercover agent! Neil and lawyer! Andrew would be the best fanfiction premise. It would be post canon and Neil ends up becoming an FBI agent and Andrew works as a defense attorney for foster kids and rape victims.
The moriyamas attempt to kill Andrew as a warning but they fail and Neil teams up with the FBI to take them down. Maybe Neil retires from exy in his early 30s and becomes one the the best undercover agents. Not because he would not be a well known person but because he would have kept up the Nathaniel persona in order to continue taking down organized crime(Child trafficking rings specifically).
Andrew obviously becomes one of the best exy players ever and retires well before he needs to because he doesn’t need exy like Kevin and Neil do. Andrew works cases for free 100% of the time because he a. Was one of the best exy players and has a bunch of money from that and b. Is married to the other best exy player who also has a high paid job as an FBI agent ( also c. So that other foster kids and victims of rape have good legal representation without going into debt).
#aftg#all for the game#neil josten#andrew minyard#andreil#the foxhole court#lawyer! Andrew minyard#FBI agent! Neil josten#I could also see this as a completely different AU where they meet after they have started their careers#maybe Andrew Is representing a child trafficking victim and Neil is the one who saved the kid#and so they learn more about eachother and think the other one is a complete asshole ( they are both impressed with what the other does but-#neither will admit it)
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This is the last time I’m gonna be talking about this for a little bit on here unless something big happens but today I was looking through the comments on a video about good omens, and no one seem to know about the allegations. It’s very disheartening that no big new source has taken this up. The only way most people know this is by being in fandom circles or online a lot or even just in the book scene. I mean, I know he’s a popular figure but even then I’ve still seen people much bigger than him at least get an article about an allegation against them, even if those articles are very condescending. At the very least more than a single conservative news organization in Britain alone should be talking about this. I don’t know. I think this is just more important than going after a cis woman boxer, who would just was good at her job. This added with the fact that not single person that I have personally seen that has worked with him in the past or present has said anything. I’m just saying this is messed up and just all around and weird. 
#neil gaiman#good omens#david tennant#michael sheen#the sandman#I guess he just has the best lawyers known to man#That’s it for now folks I’m in a much better state right now than I was in my other posts#Love to hear y’all‘s opinion on this
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In the future when Andrew and Neil are happy, in love and married, Andrew would often use divorce as a threat. He is of course not serious. He won't say out loud that they are forever.
But Neil felt in the way he would sometimes stare at him unblinking, soft, unguarded. The look that says: “Nobody will take me away from you and nobody will take you away from me. I will hold onto you with legs and arms and if I lose those I will use my teeth, I will be feral, I will be brutal, I will let out the monster they thought of me to stay with you.”
Anyway he usually threatens Neil with divorce, whenever Neil is impossibly irritating. He of course knows Andrew doesn't mean it. And Andrew exists in a perpetual state of irritation because of that. On one hand he likes that Neil realizes they are serious and Andrew will never walk away.
On second hand, Have dare Neil not take his threat seriously??? How dare he roll his eyes and scoff with a smile??? How dare he dismiss Andrew with a wave of hand and “yeah yeah sure darling”????
That being said, it irritates Andrew so much that he decided to do something about it, to wipe that smirk off Neil’s face.
And now whenever Neil and Andrew are arguing and Andrew threatens with divorce the next day Neil is forced to do the shame dance of calling their lawyer and being like
“No, no, do not process that petition for divorce Andrew sent you. I know he wrote in his email that this time he is serious. Yes I know he wrote that he is “Serious serious SERIOUS” I know he wrote that three times and this is something he doesn't usually do. I know. He also sent you second divorce papers this morning? in fax??? we don't have a fax machine??? … no, no, don't process these documents either.”
All while Andrew sits nearby, looking at him smugly in silence.
#Neil Josten#Neil Abram Josten#Andrew Minyard#Andrew Joseph Minyard#andreil#All for the game#Foxhole court#the foxhole court#aftg#aftg andreil#aftg headcanon#their lawyer being so confused non stop#poor man
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another ineffable husbands coded song i found to make y'all cry
While I was up to my usual shenanigans on tumblr, a friend suggested the song Tears in Heaven by Eric Clapton for miscellaneous purposes. And I'm in the brainrot stage so guess who it reminded me of. Guess, maggots, who could it possibly remind you of? Not a certain demon who used to live in heaven until he fell from grace, but refused to return? Surely not him? Judge for yourselves, the lyrics are below the Spotify link. Hm.
TEARS IN HEAVEN - ERIC CLAPTON Would you know my name? If I saw you in heaven Would it be the same? If I saw you in heaven I must be strong And carry on 'Cause I know I don't belong Here in heaven Would you hold my hand? If I saw you in heaven Would you help me stand? If I saw you in heaven I'll find my way Through night and day 'Cause I know I just can't stay Here in heaven Time can bring you down Time can bend your knees Time can break your heart Have you begging please Begging please Beyond the door There's peace, I'm sure And I know there'll be no more Tears in heaven Would you know my name? If I saw you in heaven Would you be the same? If I saw you in heaven I must be strong And carry on 'Cause I know I don't belong Here in heaven
Season 2 Episode 6, anyone?
#good omens#good omens mascot#good omens fandom#crowley#aziraphale#lgbtqia#neil gaiman#aziracrow#aziraley#azirowley#tell me im wrong#weirdly specific but ok#the friend who recommended this tried to deny all liability#but i know their dastardly lawyer tricks#they then offered you guys unsympathetic tissues#so yes#asmi#yall made me cry#now you cry#Spotify
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oc posting?!?! ✮ (the images + details under cut!!)
OC NAMES GUYS!! — i wrote some songs i based the art out of in the alt text!!! <- please i’m so normal abt these guys i am i swear
ʚ ___________________ ɞ
Arthur Nevi Lewis (slicked back brown hair w highlightss)
Vira Cori Andreas (pretty brunette w red lipstick….she’s my mom she just doesn;t know it yet)
Elliot Kim Cheong (curly black hair w pearl earrings)
Timothy “Tim” Neil Seabury (brown haired w glasses)
ʚ ___________________ ɞ
they’re all just rlly rich lawyers who come from old money😔 setting’s in — 1997 NYC !!
#the legaton#<- title😔😔😔#oc#ocs#oc art#Arthur Nevi Lewis#Atty. Lewis#Vira Cori Andreas#Atty. Andreas#Elliot Kim Cheong#Atty. Cheong#Timothy ‘Tim’ Neil Seabury#Atty. Seabury#OH MY GAHH I COULD INFO DUMP ABT THESE GUYS ALL DAY I SWEAR#OH I WROTE THE SONGS I BASED THE ART OUT OF IN THE ALT TEXT!#i want to be like them so badly i want to be lik the#also legal drama auhhhh😞😞#ur all going to stare at my lawyer oc babies whether u like it or not#I MADE A PLAYLIST 4 THEM THIS IS HOW INSANE I AM
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The biblical need for a Good Omens season 2 musical is real, palpable, burning, and giving the final circle of hell.
Listen, maybe I've been watching too much Hazbin Hotel, and so the notion of Heaven/Hell musicals is stuck in my head- but HEAR ME OUT:
We're on one of the last songs on the soundtrack. Aziraphale is fluttering around the bookshop because he's about to confess his feelings for Crowley. He's singing his little heart out about how, after all this fear and self-loathing, he is finally ready to step out and go after what HE wants, not what Heaven wants. He's prepared, he's in love, and he's done with heavens bullshit. We get to the final chorus, and BOOM. Metatron walks in, cutting Aziraphale off, and asks to speak with him, and Aziraphale agrees.
The next song is instrumental because we, like in the show, have no real idea what was discussed in that meeting. It starts off cheery, maybe a little tense, before it gets somber.
And listen, all I need is a song where Crowley has just watched Aziraphale get into that elevator without looking back, and his heart breaks. I need him, specifically David Tennant, to sing about how Crowley will probably never get over Aziraphale and how, despite constantly waiting for him, it is killing him; it is a death he will gladly accept. I need a song where his rage melts into sadness, and we get a laid-back Crowley just asking if Aziraphale or God can hear him, asking why.
The last thing we hear is that the Bentley is starting up and driving down a busy street in Soho- but if you listen carefully, you can hear a nightingale singing in the background because the story isn't over.
#michael sheen#david tennant#good omens#aziraphale#crowley#neil gaiman#good omens season 2#go2 spoilers#I'm FINE okay?#I'm totally not still recovering from season 2#I'm a completely normal college student#I feel bad for whoever hires me as their lawyer in the future#because I'm sure I'll do fine with the law part#but they'll have to deal with never knowing their lawyer is fucking insane about theology related media#your honor
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shout out to ace attorney for having so many fucked up and/or tragic sibling pairs. my favorite dynamic forreal
#misty and morgan#mia and maya#iris and dahlia#jake and neil#acro and bat#apollo and trucy#franzika and edgeworth#aura and simon#ema and lana#klavier and kristoph#there are probably more i have forgotten#aa#*slaps the silly lawyer game* you can fit so much sibling dynamics in here
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one of my favourite headcanons is that andrew in fact does not go pro and instead becomes a lawyer. i don't understand people who say he goes pro because it seems so just not right for him? but each to their own. in my opinion he studies law further and becomes a really successful lawyer <3
#lawyer andrew stans rise#all for the game#aftg#andrew minyard#psu foxes#andreil#palmetto state university#neil josten#the foxhole court#aaron minyard#kevin day
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I have the sudden urge to make an all for the game amv set to "I wanna be your slave" by måneskin just because I have a VERY vivid image of a scene with all the foxes standing in a circle back to back to each other and the camera spinning around in fits and stops and focusing on each of them during the chorus that goes "and I'm a __ that is searching for redemption" and each of them is focused on in one of the blanks, I can't stop thinking about it it's ruining my life
#no guys you dont understand I have a VISION#the first chorus is the monsters and the second the upperclassmen#the devil is kevin the lawyer is nicky the killer is aaron the first monster is andrew#then the bad guy is matt and seth the blonde girl is alison the freak is dan and renee and the second monster is neil#then it repeats 'i'm a motherfucking monster who's searching for redemption' one last time while showing all of them#it would look so cool#all for the game#aftg#neil josten#andrew minyard#aaron minyard#kevin day#nicky hemmick#matt boyd#dan wilds#alison reynolds#seth gordon#renee walker#nora sakavic#unfortunately i can neither draw nor animate 🥲
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My wills and trusts professor: “So here’s this really long tangent about how you need to add this in your will because of subsection (a)(b)(c)(d)…”
My real estates professor: “Before buying a house, you gotta take out the covenant 103.4 document, which you can get if you first file a Mortgage A31.4…”
My entertainment law professor: “Spawn, the superhero created by Todd MacFarlane, was once a man named Al Simmons who made a deal with Satan after he was assassinated and his soul sent to hell. Fun fact, Neil Gaiman was brought in by MacFarlane to write for Spawn, which led to the creation of Medieval Spawn…” (no joke, this was part of his lesson to explain work-for-hire contracts)
#spawn#al simmons#Albert Simmons#image comics#superhero comic#medieval spawn#todd macfarlane#neil gaiman#wills and trusts#real estate transactions#entertainment law#my professor#law school#lawyer#law school student#student life#college life
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Give lawyer Morty more screen time. I wanna see his POG collection
#rick and morty#morty smith#lawyer morty#i love him more than life itself#he’s so happy#he did a funny dance#it made me smile#i want to give him a hug#and a kiss on the forehead#and let him know that I love him#he deserves so much more screen time#what is with me and loving slightly oblivious yet adorable character??#I mean I loved young Neil in Scott pilgrim#and I love lawyer Morty sm too#lol#<3
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Dear Readers,
Me, seeing my own solemn reflection in the tv, after turning off Good Omens S2 E6.
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#i still haven't recovered#neil gaiman#youll be hearing from my lawyers#good omens fandom#aziraphale x crowley#ineffable idiots#good omens#ineffable partners#ineffable husbands#crowley and aziraphale#good omens 2#ineffable#idiots in love#renew good omens#ineffable plan#ineffable bureaucracy#lgbtqia#queer#angel x demon#crowley x aziraphale#aziracrow
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If you, like I, have been personally traumatized by @neil-gaiman , David Tennant, Michael Sheen and the Good Omens 2 cast and crew, you’re in luck!
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#aziraphale#crowley#good omens#michael sheen#david tennant#good omens season 2#ineffable husbands#good omens season two#neil gaiman#good omens tv#good omens spoilers#needless to say that’s not a real number#but read it in the lawyer tv advertisement style
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