#kwami’s choice spoilers

[aalissy]

Nahhh I’m sobbing I can’t believe Plagg actually killed himself to save the world 😭😭😭

[madlyclumsy]

currently dwelling on the fact that (before watching the episode) i couldn’t have identified this person

and that means that i’m JUST AS BLIND AS THE ENTIRETY OF PARIS????

[theluckiestlb]

….we were so robbed of chat!nino and for what. 🥲

[thelibraryloser]

[greywardens]

Does anyone else feel Zoe as the new cat miraculous holder feels really forced and random? I think she’s cute, but Zoe isn’t a major character, they just intentionally focus on her this episode to “build up” to the choice. Alya makes sense. Nino I get why not. But like, Kagami? Or Luka? Either of these would have felt much more natural given their consistent emotional involvement in Marinette and Adrien’s lives and overall show presence

[midnight-mismanagement]

Transmission Spoilers

I have many conflicted thoughts about this ep. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed it, especially the conversation in the dark, and Adrien and Marinette were quite cute with each other, and the communication was painful, but also really good. Also, Gabe needs to rot in hell dear lordie. But the pacing was very rushed, which, fair, that tends to happen with more plot heavy eps, but the distinct lack of Ladybug and Chat Noir interacting was odd. I would’ve thought it would make more sense for the obligatory akuma fight to be solved by Chat Noir and Ladybug as they go on (what they thought) would be their last fight together. We don’t get much insight at all into how Adrien and Marinette feel about leaving one of the most important person in their lives and that entire side of their life. With an akuma fight where they say goodbye (or they each say they just need a break and it’s not permanent or something) we would’ve at least had something (and more angst lol). And the ep then could’ve ended with Adrien and Marinette giving up their miraculous and Tikki and Plagg meeting up with their new holders. This would’ve allowed part 2 to include conversations with the kwamis with both Zoe and Alya (instead of just Alya), their transformation sequences, and maybe a bit longer of a fight as they grapple with their newfound positions and wonder why Chat Noir and Ladybug gave up their miraculous at the same time. Meanwhile, Adrien and Marinette become closer but also grapple with the reality of their new situation, and what it means to have given up that part of themselves. Adrien has essentially given away his ticket to freedom (I found it interesting how much of a focus there was on Adrien’s bar-like windows behind Plagg while Plagg gave his speech) while Marinette has given away this huge responsibility, but how are they both going to cope without their kwamis and their partners. And then eventual swap back, etc.

Which makes me wonder what part 2 has in store, that would be the cause for leaving out such a crucial interaction between Chat Noir and Ladybug in part 1, and also what is going to cause Adrien and Marinette specifically to take their miraculous back. I know Gabe has tracked Zoe and Alya with the alliance rings but Tikki and Plagg could still go and choose different holders again, they don’t necessarily have to go back to their previous holders (having to holder hop would definitely be suspicious and possibly lead to some scrutiny with the rings, since apparently Adrien and Marinette are the only ones who don’t use one). So Adrien and Marinette actually wanting the miraculous back will probably play a factor. My guess is this will be where the actual reality of what they’ve given up will come crashing down, at least I think.

[biastromedae]

damn adrien and marinette are canon. like, they're actually canon. there's no reset, no memory loss, no alternate universe they're actually canon they confessed to each other and they are going to start dating like. we did it. it took seven - SEVEN - fucking yEARS (let me just repeat it cause i find it so incredibly hilarious: SEVEN !! YEARS) but we did it. god.

[bloom-agreste-cheng]

They are so sweet together. This was the only good scene of the episode 😭😭😭😭😭😭 also this is technically the first time we see Mari struggling to say I love you to Adrien. We will see it again later in Perfection.

This boy could be the perfect boyfriend, very accommodating and understanding. What a sweetheart. I wanna see these two grow in their love.

Just Adrien being the best boyfriend he is🤧🤩❤

Omg!Adrien's really setting the standards too high!!!!!!!!🤪😆🤭💖❤🤗

[geekgirles]

Same girl, same

[shortmexicangirl]

the fandom:

[miracaron-ladybug]

Dude is mad brave shooting his shot again so soon after a rejection like that

Moments later…

[aalissy]

Raise your hand if you love me. Omg I’m squealingggg

[madlyclumsy]

THE NOISE I MADE WHEN GABRIEL STARTED TO DANCE WAS INHUMAN

sir- please stop!!! the torture!!! MY EYES

[miraculouscataclyyysm]

This chaotic bastard really threw the miraculous at Zoe’s ankle and was like fetch

[mamayura]

You know what just hit me like a truck?

Marinette at the end of the Paris special traveled through several universes and in all of them Chat Noir was the partner by her side

In all besides ONE universe where Scarabella and Kitty Noire had the Ladybug and Black Cat.

The Paris special took place before episode 4, so way before the Kwami Choice two parter. I wonder how Marinette felt whne she realized (or at least in the theoretical case of her realizing) that at that point the one and only universe became their reality too where Chat isn't by her side at all and that she has made alot of active choices to heavily contribute for it to end up this way.

I mean, she too literally CHOSE to leave and she already wanted to do it before Plagg initiated his plan. That happened. No way around it.

I wished the show wouldn't just throw in such awfully heavy implications without paying it off. I was glad that Marinette having seen Kitty Noire in another time line explains why Marinette didn't think of worrying about if this new Black Cat truly is a good person and not a bad one who happened to get her hands on Plagg after Chat renounced (though Alya isn't off the hook for this. She didn't even care to ask for a HERO NAME. The non-existent security around the Black Cat Miraculous from the two leader girls at the top of the hierarchy is just insanely irresponsible. Literally ANYONE could infiltrate the team as Black Cat through Adrien's isolation and be welcomed with open arms as long as they aren't straight up announcing themselves as the villain)

But now having realized that Marinette saw that she and Chat Noir are a team in so MANY universes besides ONE and it's exactly THAT one which ends up coming true through alot of her own decisions no less?

That's harsh. That is such a harsh thing to simply throw in there and then do nothing with. As if that wouldn't be an extremely crushing realization for her to have.

Same as Adrien being kamikotized into Celestial Cat who looks way too much like Chat Blanc and they just... did nothing with that. Marinette had NO reaction to it whatsoever.

Both kamikotizations came with such heavy baggage, but they just did nothing with it. It's just THERE.

[greywardens]

Miraculous update: Worst Dad Ever award winner also wins Even Worse than Worst Dad award