#korn kp

[crystallinemoonlight]

still not over the fact korn murdered porsche and chay's family and then planted some lousy gambler as their guardian who ruined their lives and put them into constant debt that drove porsche to risk his health and life street fighting. it's insane. especially bc in the later episodes arthee showed a scary lack of care towards porsche, calling him naive and stupid, trying to extort him using his dead family, he did not give a shit. people don't just change like that overnight, he didn't just get evil and uncaring, that stuff was already there. and he was picked to look after two traumatized children??

korn must have done that on purpose, either to put porsche in a constantly vulnerable state he could later exploit, or to keep him busy so he'd never have the time or capacity to think too much about his family's past. there's no way he didn't know.

[kinnbig]

KinnPorsche the Series + Power

[chanbig]

i know it's for The Drama that in ep 5 of kpts, where kinn and korn are having their very precarious chess game on the pathway over the pool, that korn checkmates kinn in like.... five moves. to indicate how distracted kinn really is by porsche. which is all well and good as visual storytelling. but it allows for the interpretation that chan is actually quite good at chess, considering how long his games against korn seem to take and how many pieces both of them lose before korn checkmates him

OR the infinitely funnier option. which is that kinn just sucks at chess.

[chaos0pikachu]

korn really set the bar for bad parents in BL b/c he’s not a bad parent b/c he’s homophobic, oh no, in fact he’s the opposite he supports all his gay sons and even his gay nephews he’s a bad parent b/c he made his semi-foster nephew believe for a whole 60 secs that him and his bio son were cousins fucking nasty while hiding his foster sister in the attic for like 20 years, killing his nephews father, all after faking his own death and then sent his gay sons on a boat party to celebrate their engagement 

[auseyre]

So something I never noticed about this scene.

When Vegas jumps in here, I immediately thought -he's like a little kid, cocky because his dad is there to back him up. And obviously Chan thinks it too, because the subs are wrong...he doesn't say "that's why I was talking" he says "the adults are talking".

It's the next part though...when he says "you'd be advised to go home" he's still speaking only to Vegas -- he says it in English, so it's clearly meant as a response to Vegas speaking English to him and he's looking at Vegas, not Gun when he says it.

He turns back to Gun and goes back to Thai until guns get drawn like cartoons.

The interesting thing is, he's giving Vegas an out here. I can't imagine this was Chan on his own, caring if Vegas was a part of this or not. It had to be Korn who wanted to keep Vegas out of it. Of course, Vegas was never going to take that option -he'd rather die proving his loyalty to his father than wear the crown in his stead. I'm sure that's something that baffles Korn -he would expect his sons to choose to stay alive and put themselves in a position of power if it came to it.

I think Korn's plan was to give the ring to Vegas after he killed Gun, thinking he could control him easily and still use him as a pin to poke Kinn with...even more so since he could play benevolent uncle once Gun was gone. But Vegas completely fell apart after his father's murder, taking that option off the table. (Okay, I'm never gonna find it again rn, but someone did a great post about how the minor family is way too dramatic and emotional for Korn and this is an example of that...compare to Kinn swallowing back all the emotion when he thought Korn was dead so he could take care of business).

[laesas]

Keeping up with the Theerapanyakardashians

[hamliet]

Kinnporsche: The Symbolism

Not really a meta. More a collection of baby meta ideas I have and/or symbolism I noticed watching the series that didn't make it into my review.

Oh How The Tables...

I'm just saying that it's certainly ironic that Kim's first scene in the show is him mocking Big for his unrequited love for Kinn. He asks Big if he should write Big a song about heartbreak, and ends the series writing a song about his own heartbreak and begging Chay to take him back.

Big and Tawan

In general, I think Big and Tawan were the best done minor characters, and the best done characters in the series, if you look at their complete arcs, after Vegas and Pete (Kim and Chay would be next, but their arcs aren't entirely complete and never will be).

The same episode where Tawan concludes "if I can't be happy, then no one can," and commits suicide (intended murder suicide at that), Big sacrifices his life to save Porsche's, not because of Porsche, but because he loves Kinn. He dies assuring Porsche how much Kinn loves him.

In other words, Big reached the opposite conclusion of Tawan: even if it means he can't be happy, he wants Kinn to be happy. However, the story actually takes a nuanced, complex look at it and doesn't code it as Big=good Tawan=bad; Tawan is framed as tragic instead and you're meant to feel sad over his patheticism, not feel gleeful.

Portraits

Tankhun, Kim, and Vegas all have self-portraits in their rooms, and these portraits are all kind of symbolic of how they see themselves--though not necessarily accurate perceptions.

Well, except Tankhun's. Tankhun's just just a neon portrait that fits with his flamboyant decor. It's in the corner near where he watches his series, and is very straightforward because Tankhun, himself, is pretty straightforward. He's not hiding the same way the others are.

Kim's self-portrait is a watercolor of himself, but you can't any discernible features. Of course, this symbolizes how he hides himself behind many masks.

Behind that portrait, though, is his bulletin board of his family and all the players. Because no matter how Kim acts distant and aloof, he's actually always strategizing and planning to thwart any threats to his family.

Vegas's self portrait is in a secret room that can only be entered via a passcode, symbolic of how it's really hard to reach the true Vegas because he keeps his vulnerabilities locked up. But when you do enter that room, you see a portrait of a misshapen man that looks more monster than human. That's how Vegas sees himself.

Kinn notably does not have a portrait (that I saw), but his walls are instead windows that overlook Bangkok, which can be symbolic as well: that he doesn't see himself fully as a person, but instead as someone who's supposed to be controlling and surveying something much, much bigger than himself.

Kinnporsche Sexy Times

The idea for symbolism here wasn't fully developed, but it's there, so.

The first two times Kinn and Porsche have sex mirror the first sexual encounters with others we see them engaging in. The first scene is the Bad Scene, or really, where Kinn basically assaults Porsche since Porsche is way too out of it to consent. But during this scene, Porsche draws attention to the beauty of the city view, which is a callback to how Kinn's hired prostitute remarked that he wanted to see the entire view (and then opened the curtains to find Porsche there, because Kinn's answer to who he is is more adequately found in Porsche than the city).

Of course it's also kind of a comment on how Kinn views himself in terms of the city, which is not entirely a good understanding lol.

The next time they have sex--and the first time it's consensual--is in the backroom of a club, which mirrors where we see Porsche having sex with the two girls in the series. I'd argue this is probably supposed to be seen as Kinn meeting Porsche where he's at, and to a degree vice versa, but also Kinn's is more morally questionable than Porsche's in terms of consent and power.

Kimchay - The Little Mermaid

I talked a little about the fairy tale motif that was never actually explored in the story despite it having a ton of potential in my review, and I'm going to talk more about it now because I can.

Listen, if Vegaspete and Kinnporsche are both loosely based on Beauty and the Beast (Vegaspete more directly a retelling, right down to resurrection), Kimchay is probably based on "The Little Mermaid," the other story that gets a direct shout-out in text. Here, both characters are both mermaid and prince.

Kim wants to live a life as part of a different world, and uses his voice to get there. In the end, just like the mermaid in the original tale, he loves the prince (Chay) too much to risk him coming to harm, even if that means his own doom. However, it's precisely that selflessness that helps him live above a filthy world.

Chay also wants to live in a different world and uses his voice to get there. Only, despite all he risks to get there, it doesn't quite work out. The prince (Kim) doesn't return his feelings... well, except he does, but he sure made Chay feel like he didn't for awhile there.

Succession: Kinnporsche Version

The novel apparently mentions this but I'm not interested in reading it for Reasons, but I did find it intriguing that the mafia family isn't exactly going to continue considering all five of the current generation (Khun, Kinn, Kim, Vegas, and Macau) are all gay. For all the talk about being an heir and succeeding Papa Korn, it's not gonna go for another generation. I actually like this and think it could be a major thematic point if emphasized appropriately, or brought up at all in the series.

Like. The family burdens the kids because of mafia stuff, trying to pit them against one another and using them to solve their grievances... but love can save the day, and also give life, and quite literally stop the cycle--but it's love that isn't traditional, in a sense. It's queer. This also doesn't mean the characters can't have kids, obviously, but symbolically they have to come up with different, nontraditional ways to do so if they do, symbolic of having to like... break from the traditional patriarchal violence of their mafia upbringings.

The ingredients are there! It could have been a thing!

Namphueng: The King

Namphueng's room has a chessboard pattern on the floor, which ties into the chess motif that Korn was always messing around with. While the audience was led to believe the queen was Porsche in all Korn's playing scenes--and they were right--they were also led to believe the king was either Kinn or Korn. Incorrect. The king was Namphueng, not Kinn or Korn.

The king, after all, isn't really free to move. It theoretically can move in any direction, but only one space at a time. It's quite limited.

I do wonder--not that this will ever be answered--if Namphueng's story is intended a lot more important than just "foster sister." Like maybe her family was wiped out because she was the heir of a far more important family or something.

The Victor Writes History

Or so Korn said. Again, not that we'll ever get it cleared up, and I personally like the ambiguity wherein we don't know precisely what happened between Namphueng, her husband, Korn, and Gun. I wouldn't actually have wanted it perfectly cleared up. Thematic! Complexity!

Gun's memories match better with Porsche's than Korn's do--the cabinet where Porsche hid is open in Gun's memories, but not in Korn's, and Porsche remembers Korn standing while Gun sits, which is what happens in Gun's version. However, whenever there are multiple versions of a story, the truth is probably in the middle, and it's hard to believe Gun, of all people, had purely selfless motives.

My personal guess is Korn did kill Namphueng's husband, but it was less about "how dare you not come back!" cruelty and more a long-game plan to get his and Gun's father to spare Namphueng and fake her death to protect her. I think this fits best thematically with the story and the characters as present in the series, in that Korn's motives can be both caring and selfish and power-seeking at the same time. It's also tragic, because killing someone loved by someone to protect them actually has a way of killing them even if you didn't plan on it. Someone can still be alive but have lost everything, a statement that multiple characters made in the show.

It would also fit that Korn misunderstood the power of love, because he definitely doesn't get it. But he didn't ruin every love story, because Kinn and Porsche end up together.

Whose Handprints?

I am annoyed i never got the answer to whose finger paintings Korn had in his desk drawer (the ones Kim found). I presume it's Porsche and Chay's given that there are two handprints, not three, and one is far larger than the other (plus the emphasis on Namphueng and art) but who knows.

[gulongming]

KINNPORSCHE ANNIVERSARY: tropes (x)

COLLECTIBLES EDITION ▸ binder one binder two

[answermywearyquery]

vegas (kinnporsche) wishes he had the kind of relationship with his cousin as korn (4 minutes) has.

[magicaldreamfox1]

with & without colouring

tagged by @agendratum @toppingjeffsatur @petrichoraline thank u all i really wanted to try this !

a lot of these are very subtle bc my colouring approach in most cases is not to change too much and only to enhance the colours of the original scene !

[yinwaryuri]

Okay apparently the cogs are working somewhat today, brain is braining, because I started discussing Pete's thoughts about Korn on this post and these tags (thanks @thisautistic) have me digging further:

Korn straight up bought Pete's loyalty. On a big scale. That's a really curious thing to do. We know Korn will have something collateral when it comes to keeping people around - Namphueng is being held hostage but under the guise of incapability so Porsche and Porchay have to rely on him. And who knows what he's got on her that's keeping her quiet.

So now I just can't imagine what the hell Korn has hold of on most of his bodyguards that's got them feeling like he's actually really generous and basically giving them handouts in exchange for a life of servitude.

I mean, I didn't even think about it when I made up a reason for him to basically tie Big's hands in a fic when he recruited him, but he did him a huge favor in that context and if Big hadn't fallen in love with Kinn and sacrificed himself he would've been the next Chan.

So why did Korn buy up Pete in such a grandiose way?

Was he aware of Big's feelings for Kinn and figured he'd die for him before having to replace Chan? (Not to mention - what the hell did he do to make Chan kiss his arse?) Did Korn keep tabs on the skills of each bodyguard and notice a special uptick in Pete's that he knew would benefit him one day? Being the master chess player he is and orchestrating circumstances like he's playing with puppets, that's a huge possibility.

Does he just buy them all out to that extent? This would make more sense to me because then it would discourage anyone claiming to be a favorite and other petty bullshit that the guards could cause. Which only demonstrates just how fucking LOADED the Theerapanyakul family is and how entrenched the mafia is in Thailand. It's like trying to get out of the spider's web and discovering you're still somewhere among the colony.

Korn is officially so fucking scary and I hate him. But also I can't help but just think of all the shit he's up to.

[shawolsos]

Korn: I raised my kids right! Whoever did it will confess.

Korn: Or the other two will rat him out.

[porschesbabydaddy]

Listen I’m a kinnporsche girlie forever and for always but I think a post-canon temp break up/enemies era would be SO fun for them

[saturnskyline]

YESSSS TANKHUN LOOPED IN ON FAMILY DISCUSSIONS YOU WILL ALWAYS BE FAMOUS <3333

[auseyre]

Legacy is one of the major themes of KinnPorsche, and the show is brimming with examples. Physical legacies like the rings and the house, and so many psychological ones. Legacies of hate and love, of regret and trauma, of abuse, of honesty and deceit. 

We never get to meet papa T(though we get a pretty clear picture of what he was like), so that leaves Korn as the primary arbiter of legacy in the show. In one way or another, he directs almost all of it. And hey, it’s an outsider that wears a tattoo that says ‘there’s no legacy as rich as honesty’ because that sure as hell isn’t a Theerapanyakul motto. There are two specific legacies that I want to mention though. 

“Tragically, your worst enemies will always come from your own household.”

I’ve gushed before over the three sets of brothers and how they’ve defied the legacy of sibling hatred and harm that came before them when it would have been easy to do the opposite. I will always stan sibling love and I adore all three sets of relationships. But the rewatch made me actually delve more into that legacy. 

The first time I watched, I just assumed that Korn and Gun had always been in competition, always hated each other, and that was the legacy that got passed on to their sons, but I don’t think that’s true at all. I think at one time, Gun looked up to and admired his big brother. I think it was them and Nampheung against papa T... or at least Gun thought it was. Until the events at the Kittisiwasds house. 

When everything goes down, Gun isn’t angry, he’s in disbelief, he’s devastated by Korn’s actions, something that I don’t think would be true with the relationship we see between them now. Now, he knows his brother is a cold-hearted bastard. Tellingly, when he finds out Nampheung is alive, he is shocked back to the Gun he was then, not the cold, angry man he is most of the series. 

Korn crafted a new legacy that day, one of broken siblings, competition, distrust, and hatred between the main family and the minor one. And I think he did it deliberately to cover his ass. Who would ever believe a word that came out of the Gun we see against benevolent dictator Korn? Everything Gun said would look like jealousy. As long as Korn kept poking at Gun and the minor family with a stick, he never had to worry about any of them developing a relationship with his sons.

He never had to worry about Gun stumbling onto any information he shouldn’t about Nampheung, Porsche, and Chay. He never had to worry about any of his secrets coming out. Even Kinn didn’t really understand why his uncle hated his family... he thought it was a matter of money and power envy. And Korn wasn’t wrong. It barely took anything for Porsche and Vegas to stumble onto part of the truth, just a little communication.

The kind of communication that Korn spent years sowing distrust to prevent. (Porsche is sorry, not sorry to keep fucking up your shit, Korn.)

That means if you were to encounter the pressures these king snakes exert, your heart would fail to pump blood—that's how strong this is," 

Korn is a king snake. He holds on tight to everything he loves, and everything he hates with the same fervor, constricting until they can’t breathe, until their hearts can’t beat. His sons have learned this lesson well, flailing in his coils their whole lives. Khun is trapped in the house, with lots of toys and some playmates to keep him occupied. Kinn is trapped under the weight of family love and responsibility, and Kim is trapped on a barely visible leash, No matter how much freedom it seems he has, it’s still an illusion. It’s no surprise that they do their best to reject that legacy from Korn. They actively strive to be different from their father in the way that they handle relationships. 

Khun

 Kinn, 

And Kim all let go. 

We know it’s not easy. They all try to be stoic about it, Khun playing it off like he's not hurt, not missing his baby brother and leaving first, Kinn and his stiff upper lip, waiting until Porsche is gone before kicking at the handcuffs, the symbol of them tied together and Kim who tries to stifle all emotion, holding it in until he can’t any longer. We see the heartbreak and regret but they still let go. They will wish and want and ask, but they won’t be their father, won’t tie someone in ways they can’t escape, won’t hold them with lies and manipulation, won’t smother the thing they love until there’s barely any life left. 

There’s a line that Korn uses from the utterly fantastic, amazing fic Wings of a Butterfly https://archiveofourown.org/works/39799374

  .... “you can’t sharpen a blade with silk” and I think about it often okay, because the great irony of Korn’s legacy is that in some ways, Kinn modeled himself after the man Korn pretends to be, not the man he actually is. Yes, he’s more impulsive and irreverent — gifts from his mother as he’s told us, but the kindness, the gentleness, the guy that cares about his people, like Pete said, that’s all from the mask Korn wears. 

Korn spent a lot of years moving pieces on the chessboard, only for everybody else to wind up playing another game entirely. His sons won’t be like him, and his nephews won’t be like the man helped create (Porsche, Porchay, and Pete are sorry, not sorry to fuck up your shit, Korn). He may get to write history, but he won’t get to write the future. 

[the-pink-quill]

Is it TherapanyakuL or TheerapanyakuN? I could swear it was Theerapanyakul, but then I tried filtering on ao3 with the spelling and apparently it's Theerapanyakun over there.

Is it my own personal Mandela effect? Please let me know which one you use.