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I think the reason why Naruto fans get so passionate and upset about the series is because of how real it can be. Naruto isn’t about paragon heroes outdoing dastardly villains. It’s about human beings fighting tooth and nail to survive in a world surrounded by death. It’s about broken systems made and perpetuated by broken people.
The Hyuga clan isn’t just antagonistic or pretentious, they practice slavery.
The Uchiha clan weren’t just killed by some raging psychopath, they were systematically massacred.
Itachi isn’t just cruel to Sasuke because he’s a bad brother, he’s cruel because he’d been told time and time again that you can only survive by being cruel and he wants nothing more than for Sasuke to survive.
Nagato isn’t trying to take over the world just for the sake of power, he’s trying to take over the world because it beat him down to the point of believing that the only chance at peace there is is the world being forced into compliance through fear.
Iruka isn’t hard on Naruto just because he’s a strict teacher, he’s hard on Naruto because he knows from experience how unforgiving the world is towards orphans.
Kakashi isn’t just some silly and slightly lazy teacher, he’s a contract killer still grieving his loved ones and struggling to do better without knowing how he’s supposed to.
Sakura isn’t just a fangirl, she’s a normal girl in a very dangerous and abnormal world constantly being made to choose between what she’s supposed to do and what she feels.
Sasuke isn’t just some edgelord, he’s a survivor who lost everything then gets repeatedly told that he has to choose between keeping what he’s gained and doing better than his brother.
Naruto isn’t just trying to be the best Hokage there ever was, he’s trying to prove his worth to a society that abandoned him just for existing and, in a way, confirm his worth to himself.
The Naruto story is about humans trying to force themselves into the role of weapons because that’s what they were told they had to be. It’s a story where everyone is a perpetrator but no one is trying to do wrong. It’s a story where everyone is a victim but no one is a perfect victim.
The world and the characters aren’t simple and trying to simplify them only takes away from them. So of course we get passionate about showing off all the reasons why they shouldn’t be simplified and all of the ways they’re complicated. Of course we get upset when we see others simplifying them or selling certain aspects of their characters short. Of course we get upset when the series itself simplifies them. Of course we get upset when the series chooses to abandon them. Because it not only feels like the characters are giving up, it feels like the series is betraying anyone who chose to get invested in its complexities.
#If you ever wondered why I can’t bring myself to really hate any Naruto character#This is why#They’re all trying their best (mostly)#naruto#naruto classic#naruto shippuden#analysis#naruto analysis#fandom analysis#sorta#naruto uzumaki#sakura haruno#sasuke uchiha#kakashi hatake#iruka umino#nagato uzumaki#itachi uchiha#every once in a while I remember why I like this series#and I remember why I think Kishimoto is capable of being a good writer#more serious than usual#my stooff#slight#rambling#anti naruto ending#anti kishimoto#Edit: I worded something wrong
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#Sasunaru#Narusasu#In fact anytime kishimoto picks up a pencil he just makes it worse 😂#But that's why we love him!!
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i just realized everyone's favorite book boyfriends practically worship their wives/girlfriends
(or at least highly admire and are huge simps for them)
#cardan greenbriar#aaron warner#kenji kishimoto#jameson hawthorne#jacks too maybe?#jacks the prince of hearts#probably more but these are the ones i can think of off the top of my head#these are also my fav book bfs like mwah ily#tfota#shatter me#the inheritance games#ouabh#jurdan#warnette#kenjizeera#averyjameson#evajacks#this is why our standards are so damn high
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ive got things to do like nothing at all i wanna do them with you
#my art#naruto#kakairu#uzumaki naruto#hatake kakashi#umino iruka#naruto uzumaki#kakashi hatake#iruka umino#behold the baby that i stayed up until 1 am for because i knew id loose motivation if i tried to finish it tomorrow#anway anbu kakashi taking care of baby naruto.......... kishimoto we could have had it all. why didnt you give us this
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sasori is sakura's government assignent manlet villain that was created exclusively to showcase her improvement and character growth. here are my points in no particular order:
students with famous mentors who share a common past (tsunade/chiyo)
having a common figure one wanted to protect (barely knowing them) and one wanted to destroy (knowing them their whole life)
being an extension of their mentors
sakura's other mentor being the son of sasori's parents' killer
the only person aiding sakura coincidentally being the only person sasori is related to
sakura's super strength being the only thing that successfully breaks sasori out of hiruko's body and also the only reason the third is destroyed (something that never happened before)
sasori's impossibly complicated poison being combated by sakura in minutes, the antidote being repurposed as a buff (so we know she can do that)
sakura being able to figure out sasori's fighting pattern in minutes (so we know she can do that)
sasori's fighting style used to show sakura's quick reflexes (so we know she can do that)
being the first and last two people he has every needed to resort using his best weapon (himself) on
knowing both orochimaru and kabuto (one's info used as a central reward for the other)
fighting sasori showcases sakura protecting ppl that aren't in her immediately circle (chiyo)
sakura openly questioning a villain on their humanity and their logic (something she hasnt been able to do on her own, so we know she can do that)
sasori and sakura both having silly season related names
sasori and sakura both having a blonde with bangs companion whom they do not respect enough and also happen to share their sister signs with
only fight that she was involved in and did not have interrupted or taken over by other team 7 members
and last but not least the playing field being leveled by having next to no prestigious bloodline abilities or super buffs involved. everything sasori threw at them was in some way countered by chiyo-sakura
and that was what? 20 years after the fact? PEAK. exactly
#nonitxt#meta#THAT ONE TIME. KISHIMOTO SAID “women 💖 alright thats enough feminism for today”#someone get a hold of kishi and ask him why we were robbed off 2.0#extremely well done fight thats right#i am a sasori vs sakura chiyo truther
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#Naruto#Madara Uchiha#Hashirama Senju#hashimada#I really wish we would've gotten to see more of their fight after they were reanimated#too bad that was the part in the manga where kishimoto gave up on himself#ugh love them#madara being so different that hashirama sees a stranger#and is unable to understand why he can no longer get through to him the way he used to#babe he's 80 years older than you'll ever know#this is not the man you thought you killed#madara has lost everything by the end of his real life#when he's reanimated he's completely abandoned his humanity#finally gets to let some of that anger out#love him so much#good for him#myart
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i am not usually interested in dramatically canon-divergent scenarios because the canon story is what compels me, but i've been obsessed with this moment ever since i re-heard it during my second viewing. from the perspective of someone who already finished the story once and now knows the truth - this was wild.
WHAT IF?
#naruto#naruto manga#pan watches naruto#team ro#WHAT was itachi thinking#i mean it's clear that he makes this 'change of plan' because he's taken aback/alarmed by how much kakashi knows#and my assumption is he wants to find out where kakashi got this intel#but for real WHAT was his long-term plan?#it is no secret that i am obsessed with the kakashi-itachi dynamic and like. this is just wild to me#especially given the timing - hiruzen just died so like. does itachi even have a contact in the village anymore?#is it *danzo*? seems nuts but.#if it is then this plan is insane. danzo doesn't love kakashi but he does respect him highly as a shinobi/an asset to the village#and i absolutely do not think he'd be willing to let itachi sacrifice a piece that powerful#was itachi just going to keep quiet about this if/when the Leaf asked where their most renowned jonin went? was he going to LIE about it?#or does the fact that hiruzen is dead mean that itachi *doesn't* have a contact in the village he trusts anymore#(hence him showing up immediately after hiruzen dies just to remind the Other Three that he's still out there)#except he didn't expect kakashi to sniff him out INSTANTLY and now he's taking him captive because...???#i don't know why#to torture him until he reveals his intel source and then kill him?#except itachi DOESN'T want to kill kakashi. that's established.#'why not just kill me? if he wanted to...he could.'#that's canon and it's GREAT and i love looking back at that very early line from much later on#knowing it's one of the pieces that clicks into place for kakashi when he's considering whether or not madara's story could be true#but anyway. itachi DOESN'T want to kill kakashi.#but if he takes him captive and doesn't want to kill him - then what???#there aren't any good answers for this because honestly i don't know that itachi's entire backstory had been planned yet#(like i think i read somewhere that kishimoto knew itachi was technically on the villlage's side from the beginning)#(but i'm not sure if all the details had been established)#in any case i remain FASCINATED
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Your worst sin is that you have destroyed and betrayed yourself for nothing.
~ Fyodor Dostoyevsky
#would someone tell me why do dostoyevsky quotes fit itachi way too much?#instead of being written by kishimoto he seems to have been written by dostoyevsky#itachi#itachi uchiha
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"Always Watching": an Analysis of Obito's Afterlife as Horror
In chapter 687 of the Naruto manga, Uchiha Obito dies. Chapters 687 and 688 contain a scene wherein he meets with his old friend (and love interest) Nohara Rin in the afterlife.
This is a touching scene, right? One would think so. The problem is that for some reason it's actually really fucking scary. In this analysis, I'm going to explain why the moment is framed in such an unsettling matter, and what that means in terms of the story.
First off, I'd like to establish a disconnect from the intent of the scene. Naruto, as a narrative, often tells the reader things that contradict the events shown, both in terms of tone and action. This scene is a contradiction on both accounts, as is common when Nohara Rin is the focus of any scrutiny. This dissonance results from the fact that although Rin is said to be kind, intellectual, and devoted, we see very little evidence for this being the case, and in some chapters, evidence to the contrary. This contrast is a key tool in reading this scene as horror.
This contrast is not a function of good writing- rather, it is a result of Kishimoto's failure to fully flesh out his female characters. I am aware that this scene was not written with the intent of being horror- I am simply arguing that it can be read that way, anyways.
I would also like to acknowledge the fact that a reading of this scene wherein Obito is not talking to the real Rin is a perfectly viable take in the context of this scene as horror. It can even amplify it in some cases- however, whether or not the real Rin is guiding Obito to the afterlife is not the topic I intend to tackle today.
Finally, before we get into a close reading of this scene, I would like to define horror, and discuss why a reading of this scene as horror can be meaningful. I will be defining horror as "storytelling that invokes fear or otherwise uncomfortable emotions through the employment of distressing imagery or engagement with upsetting subject matter." I intend to prove that this scene can be read as horror by emphasizing the "distressing imagery" and "upsetting subject matter" present in it, primarily through contrast.
Horror is important because it challenges our notions of normality and appropriateness. By reading this scene as horror, we are forced to question the morality of Obito's actions, the accuracy of Obito's views of Rin, the necessity of Obito's sacrifice, and many other aspects of the Naruto narrative.
To begin with: Obito takes Kaguya's All-Killing Ash Bone attack to save the lives of Team 7 We are treated to a short flashback of Rin encouraging Obito to become hokage and vowing to stay by his side as he does so. We then transition back to the present, where Obito tells Naruto to become hokage. He then dies- Kaguya and Zestu mock him, Naruto defends him, and Obito wakes up in the afterlife.
The first panel of the sequence is the extreme close-up on Obito's normal eye- this serves to establish the fact that he does not have his sharingan here. He is powerless, and therefore vulnerable. The shock and sudden scene transition also serves as a jolt to readers, destabilizing them as they enter the scene. We also see the grey border that surrounds the scene begin- this grey border helps to establish the surreality of the scene. In the Naruto manga, pages taking place in the present are surrounded by white and flashbacks are surrounded by black. By shading the area around the panels light grey, an in-between area is established. The liminal quality to this scene further unsettles the reader and contributes to a horror reading.
Next, the scene goes from incredibly close to distant. Contrast is one of the most important pieces of imagery this scene uses to unsettle the reader. We see this contrast again in the next panel, as Rin and Obito take turns facing the camera. The scene also plays on Obito's vulnerability to discomfit the reader. Obito has been thrust back into his childhood body. He is much weaker than he has been in a long time. Rin is not sitting neutrally- she is leaning into Obito's personal space, pressing in and creating an oppressive atmosphere.
The dialogue in this scene also serves to unsettle the reader. Obito pauses unnaturally twice in three panels, and Rin's dialogue is chilling. The first thing she says to him is "I've been waiting." Taken on it's own, it's far from comforting, or even romantic. The ominous tone of the dialogue contrasted with Rin's tranquil smile creates horror.
The expressions in these panels work to communicate Obito's (justified) distress over his actions. Rin's expression, in contrast, is oddly unaffected. The lack of reaction to any of the people Obito hurt contrasts with the picture of a kind girl that Obito and Kakashi's memories have presented us with thusfar. It creates horror, and challenges both Rin and the position of hokage as ideals.
Rin's expression and the cadence with which she delivers her judgement are unsettling. The unnatural pause in the middle of her dialogue emphasizes the horror of such a statement- "I've been... watching you all along." Directly following her declaration of Obito's innocence, this throws the lens of morality the narrative of Naruto has been asking us to use into question. It also. Hold on a second can I stop essay talking for a little bit ahem. It's just fucking creepy? Like that's not a normal thing to say why'd she say that. Why's she pause in the middle of it. It's so threatening for no reason??? It's the panel that inspired this piece because when I was reading this chapter for this first time I had to go back and check to make sure I was getting the intention of it right because this reads like fucked up nightmare fuel scene!!! Forget wrangling something into a shape it's not meant to be in you have to squint to see this scene in a non-horror light!!!! Why. Literally why. Okay anyways ahem Paired alongside Obito's distress and Rin's clear invasion of his personal space, this is easy to read as horror.
Once again, we are shown an extreme close-up of Obito's eyes, emphasizing his distress. We also focus on Rin's grip on Obito- notice how it's not reciprocated. The close view of her hold on his hand suffocates the reader, signalling that something is wrong.
Here we see more contrast to build uneasiness- the difference between Obito's anguish and Rin's unflinching smile casts doubt on the sincerity of Rin's smile, and therefore on the basis of her character.
Once again, the framing of this scene pulls attention towards Rin's grip on Obito. We also see juxtaposition between close-ups and distant framing of panels. The movement of our view creates a sense of unease, not allowing us to sit comfortably with any perspective. We also see Rin shift from a smile to concern for the first time- and it's only because Obito is trying to resist (and failing) to resist her grip.
Finally, the contrast is reversed. Now we have Obito smiling and Rin not. Rin is still holding Obito, but the tension between them isn't as great. They are both on their feet, lessening the power imbalance between them.
Finally, with Obito's denial of Rin, we see something beyond a plastic smile or concern. She releases his hand, and seemingly becoming more genuine, the undertones of horror begin to fade.
With the direct mention of Kakashi, things clear up even more. Obito's dialogue is more natural, and although we still have the framework of distant/close up perspective, it's less extreme. Rin and Obito are on even terms- or, so it seems. The horror in the earlier scenes came from the fact that Rin was leading the conversation, and was behaving in ways that felt wrong. Now that Obito is leading, Rin doesn't have the opportunity to exorcise agency and therefore contradict the characterization she supposed to have. Although the horror is fading, it has not been resolved. It is merely being covered up.
I'll stray into another framework I like to use to analyze Rin scenes, here- I've suggested in the past that the sincerity of Rin's character at any given moment can be read in a symbolic manner based on her eyes. Closed eyes represent deceit- in these panels, Rin conforms exactly to Obito's expectations of her, smiling with her eyes closed and bearing a striking resemblance to the photo of team Minato we often see as representative of Kakashi's grief for Rin and Obito's goals. She has regressed to an ideal; the horror is gone. Their expressions are no longer contrasting in an uncomfortable manner, instead complimenting each other, and their dialogue has moved on from uncomfortable phrasing into natural bickering. And yet, because of this resolution- this surrender- Rin becomes a liar, once again conforming to other's visions of her rather than expressing her true feelings.
Here, Obito reactivates his sharingan, marking a reversal of the dynamic. He is stronger than Rin, now, and conforming to a traditional Naruto value (self-sacrifice as an unarguably positive force). Any concerns raised by the undertones of horror earlier have been completely brushed over.
Finally, we bookend the scene with Rin once again reiterating her "waiting." Rather than horrific this time, though, it is resigned. It is the kind of thing a kind, dutiful girl would say- she waits in the afterlife for Obito, expressing no agency. The perfect image of a perfect girl, in complete contrast to her unsettling behavior earlier.
Although the Naruto manga spends more time in Obito's afterlife, we won't see Rin again for a while, so I mark this as the end of this scene specifically.
We receive no resolution to this horror. The handful of Rin's appearances afterwards do not address her actions or the tone of the beginning of this scene.
In conclusion, Obito's afterlife effectively uses unsettling imagery and dialogue to build tension without ever releasing it. The horror that it invokes is never resolved, and this leaves the audience questioning the reality of the scene and other information connected to Obito, Rin, and Konoha as a whole. It can be read as horror in order to broaden understanding of Nohara Rin as a character and Obito's relationship to her.
#rin nohara#obito uchiha#obirin#maybe? idk im just a humble rin poster....#i <3 pseudo-academic tone... NO more essays instead i will be dumping thoughts into semi structured posts and not editing them. thanks.#NO CITATIONS!!! FUCK YOU!!! i made all this shit up theres no other scholars anyways.......#anyways lol. why DID kishimoto frame it like that
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAh
#trying to understand this part again and im just holding back my tears. ilovethemsomuch#mihael mcqueer keehl was trying to save homotron prime 3000#don't touch me im sensitive please everyone log off I need to be alone#there is no not gay explanation for this. this is why ohba is homophobic.#he accidentally created the perfect love story and reached his peak with homosexuals#stupid fragile cis straight man you are not better than Kishimoto
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Redraw of old Hinata art :33
She was my first love I'll never forget her I would scream whenever she showed up
Old version (April 2023) under the cut


#Changed her outfit because I wanted to#Sasuke and Izuna maybe my two favourites now but I'll never forget you babygirl#Can you tell that I have no idea where the light was coming from in this#I just hoped for the best and drew man 😭😭#Also the anatomy is fucked up but who cares I drew this bc it was fun not for it to be good!!#Naruto#Naruto shippuden#Hinata#hinata hyuga#THE girlie of all time#naruto fanart#My art#Favourite part about this is her little hair twirls#ALSO IM SO UPSET HER DESIGN DOESNT ENCOMPASS HER LITTLE SPIKES ANYMORE#WHY DOES KISHIMOTO CONTINUE TO DESPIKE HIS CHARACTERS#Moldy-flowers#Moldys-art
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#see the issue is i feel like that isnt the main problem with kabuto here lmao#I've been gone for so long but ahem. as a kabuto scholar-#i feel like kabuto's main issue is that he was forced into this position by literally every outside force around him#the leaf village tried to kill him. he had no choice but to stay with orochimaru. after orochimaru died he had -nowhere to go-#but at this point in the story kishimoto doesn't want to acknowledge the problems with ninja society that led kabuto here#and that's why this explanation falls so flat to me#the most kabuto gets is itachi saying ''well it wasn't all his fault'' but not elaborating on why#and itachi is the one that is seen as in the right for making the decision to kill his entire clan in the name of upholding the status quo#so kishimoto can't outright blame kabuto's problems on the leaf village. so instead some reasons are thrown out here#that genuinely make no sense to me#and itachi claiming kabuto reminds him of himself also doesn't make much sense to me#because itachi always came across to me as incredibly sure of himself. always knew who he was and what he needed to do#which is... the opposite of kabuto#and itachi's explanation doesn't make it make sense to me.#kabuto had an amazing arc and this little summary from itachi here just ignores all of it to make up something entirely different#just in my own opinion at least.#naruto#kabuto#kabuto yakushi#mangacap#everykabuto#fourth shinobi world war: climax#chapter 587
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guys I'm nearly at the end of the shatter me series... 35% through Believe Me and damn just hit me how much I've been invested and how much I've read. I started reading the 1st book on 13th March and (now on 10th April) I say, woah, it's been an emotional rollercoaster since then. The series (for me) has had it's ups and downs but in all honesty, I've enjoyed the books and the little novellas too :) I'll let you guys know how I feel at the end of Believe Me and give a book by book rating <3
To all the Warnette fans, I am with you.
To all the Nazeera x Kenji fans, I stand with you.
To all the Winston x Brendon stans, I stan with you.
And, finally, to all the Anderson haters, I proudly, and with unadultered feeling, hate with you.
#idk why i felt like i had to do a summary post#but it has been such a journey i feel.??#idk if im being a bit too deep#but its taken sm of my reading time#so i feel like i had to do this#idk#some sort of outlet or smth#shatter me#shatter me series#books#bookish#booklr#restore me#defy me#believe me#imagine me#fracture me#reveal me#unravel me#unite me#warnette#aaron warner#warner x juliette#juliette x warner#juliette ferrars#kenji x nazeera#kenji kishimoto#nazeera ibrahim#destroy me#tahereh mafi
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Sueske just posted something which brought these panels to my attention:


Allow me to just 🕳️🚶♀️
I physically can't deal with this type of pain. Who is this dude in Boruto, I don't know him
#pro sasuke#pro sasuke uchiha#anti konoha#anti boruto#WHAT DID Y'ALL DO TO HIM#KISHIMOTO WHY HAVE YOU DONE THIS#entirely and thoroughly unnecessary spin off which desecrated both my babies#i can't deal#no#i can't deal with this at all
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One thing I've learned about life is that u gotta ignore peoples' expectations like how u ignore the naruto canon
#this is why sasunaru shippers are good at ignoring life cz we got plenty of expertise with the IDGAF game#fate is kishimoto and reality is the naruto canon that i dont give two fucks about#sasukr and naruto are fucking and i am eating my little treats and enjoying life whatre yall gonna do abt it#sasunaru#sns#narusasu#sasunarusasu#naruto sasuke
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Characters that deserved sm better:
Cardan Greenbriar ~ tfota
Jacks ~ uoabh
Nikolai Lantsov ~ sab
Genya Safin ~ sab
Kenji Kishimoto ~ shatter me
Aaron Warner ~ shatter me
Newt ~ maze runner
Finnick Odair ~ thg
Grayson Hawthorne ~ tig
William Sitterson ~ legendborn
Matthias Helvar ~ soc
Lmk if there's more :)
#tfota#ouabh#ouabh series#the folk of the air#folk of the air#fota#shatter me#shatter me series#maze runner#the hunger games#thg#tig#the inheritance games#the legendborn cycle#legendborn#shadow and bone#sab#cardan greenbriar#kenji kishimoto#aaron warner#finnick odair#newt maze runner#william sitterson#genya safin#nikolai lantsov#jacks prince of hearts#grayson hawthorne#TELL ME WHY I ALMOST FORGOT MATTHIAS 💀💀#six of crows#matthias helvar
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